3pt contest this year..

[apalisoc_9]

Probably the most entertaining mini tournament in the NBA and it's actually competitive. I'm really hoping they increase the contestant Needs to be a longer shootout. Who would you invite?

Reddick-Curry-Thompson-Harden-Irving are all going to join for sure.

Leaves 7 mpre spot.

Eric Gordon-Kyle Lowry-Kevin Durant-Love-Danny Green-Mcculom-Beal...

[lefty]

Mark Price would destroy those clowns tbh

[ambchang]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?

[lebomb]

Mark Price would destroy those clowns tbh

Craig Hodges would destroy Mark.:claw

[Fabbs]

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?
Rack it.

[lefty]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24 / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

[B]And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?
:tu

[Killakobe81]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?

Amb with hard to dispute goods nothing but crickets in here

[baseline bum]

Who would you invite?

Probably Larry Bird

[DarrinS]

Are Steph and Klay even above 40% this season?

[140]

I really don't have a dog in this fight but it looks like :loltoday's NBA crew just took another loss ITT tbh

[unleashbaynes]

Yes, let's judge based on the 3pt contest and not the numbers from the actual games. Makes sense.

[ambchang]

Yes, let's judge based on the 3pt contest and not the numbers from the actual games. Makes sense.

Because actual game play have variables like defense. For all we know, lax perimeter defense due to rule changes led to this spike in three point shooting, not to mention the total lack of interior defense forces perimeter defense to sag, leading to more open perimeter shots

[Clipper Nation]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?


If three-point shooting was better in :lol yesterday's NBA, why did they have to shorten the three-point line in the actual games?

[unleashbaynes]

Because actual game play have variables like defense. For all we know, lax perimeter defense due to rule changes led to this spike in three point shooting, not to mention the total lack of interior defense forces perimeter defense to sag, leading to more open perimeter shots

Dude. They don't play defense at all in the 3pt contest. The players are on a break. And being the only one on the floor shooting is different anyway. To even compare the two is pretty laughable.

[lefty]

If three-point shooting was better in :lol yesterday's NBA, why did they have to shorten the three-point line in the actual games?
To inflate the stats of 1 man


DK

[DAF86]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?

Easy, in the 3pt contest the sample size is very small. Nobody said the best yesterday's NBA three point shooters aren't as good as the best three point shooters of today, just that the guys capable of hitting threes in today's NBA is a lot more significant.

Besides, lol NBA 3pt contest, what counts are the actual games, tbh.

[lefty]

Well in actual games , shooters weren't as wide open open as they are today

Price and Miller hit some tough 3 pointers back in the day, imagine in todays NBA if they were wide open

(But yeah Curry can hit difficult shots as well)

[DAF86]

Well in actual games , shooters weren't as wide open open as they are today

Price and Miller hit some tough 3 pointers back in the day, imagine in todays NBA if they were wide open

(But yeah Curry can hit difficult shots as well)

The fuck? Everybody packed the paint and conceded the 3 back then. :lol

[TimDunkem]

The fuck? Everybody packed the paint and conceded the 3 back then. :lol
He needs to stick to trolling. :lol

[lefty]

The fuck? Everybody packed the paint and conceded the 3 back then. :lol
Uh no there was that thing called illegal defense

[DMC]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?

Only if you don't understand how basketball works. Hell, we could shoot a decent percentage from 12 feet but not in an NBA game.

You don't get a rack of balls during the game (though you might get your balls racked) so you have to be on right away. Once you're dialed in, even many non NBA players could hit the 3 at a high clip, they just can't dribble, pass or defend.

[spurraider21]

:lmao needing to add a full rack of moneyballs in the 3pt contest :lmao

[140]

:lmao needing to add a full rack of moneyballs in the 3pt contest :lmao
:rollin

[Kawhitstorm]

Mark Price would destroy those clowns tbh

PbYNn1LU9p4

[Arcadian]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?

Not that I'm defending the position that shooters are better today, but...can you really make an argument based on an all-star festivity?

[ambchang]

If three-point shooting was better in :lol yesterday's NBA, why did they have to shorten the three-point line in the actual games?

Supposedly to increase scoring, which totally backfired because it packed the paint. Scoring actually went down.

It wasn't until the league changed the perimeter defense rules to open up the game that we finally saw an uptick in the scoring average in the league.


Dude. They don't play defense at all in the 3pt contest. The players are on a break. And being the only one on the floor shooting is different anyway. To even compare the two is pretty laughable.

No doubt, but we are talking about pure shooting with all the variables taken out. You can say that players are shooting the three in :lol today's NBA defense vs. :wow yesterday's NBA defense, but the variable is that :lol today's NBA defense is different from :wow yesterday's NBA defense.


Easy, in the 3pt contest the sample size is very small. Nobody said the best yesterday's NBA three point shooters aren't as good as the best three point shooters of today, just that the guys capable of hitting threes in today's NBA is a lot more significant.

Besides, lol NBA 3pt contest, what counts are the actual games, tbh.

We are talking about the best vs. the best. So Curry is as good as Craig Hodges? Good for him.

Is Curry the best shooter ever then?


Only if you don't understand how basketball works. Hell, we could shoot a decent percentage from 12 feet but not in an NBA game.

You don't get a rack of balls during the game (though you might get your balls racked) so you have to be on right away. Once you're dialed in, even many non NBA players could hit the 3 at a high clip, they just can't dribble, pass or defend.

But the narrative is that :today's NBA players are so much better than :wow yesterday's NBA players in 3 pt shooting.

[ambchang]

To inflate the stats of 1 man


DK

Problem was, the shortened 3 pt line was put in while DK was still serving his suspension.

[ambchang]

Not that I'm defending the position that shooters are better today, but...can you really make an argument based on an all-star festivity?

Of course. If :today's NBA players are better at 3 pt shooting, they should be better at the 3 pt shooting contest.

[lefty]

Problem was, the shortened 3 pt line was put in while DK was still serving his suspension.
Maybe DK asked for a shortened 3 pt line as a condition for his comeback

THE PLOT THICKENS

[Clipper Nation]

Problem was, the shortened 3 pt line was put in while DK was still serving his suspension.
Stern used The Suspension! as an opportunity to sneak in rule changes to make it easier for DK to win.

[Killakobe81]

Told yall my ninja amb was gonna body some of yall ...
dude is ruthless and relentless

[ambchang]

Maybe DK asked for a shortened 3 pt line as a condition for his comeback

THE PLOT THICKENS


Stern used The Suspension! as an opportunity to sneak in rule changes to make it easier for DK to win.

Valid points, and that got me thinking as well. Jordan does have a lot of sway on the league back then, he was the puppet-master of Stern like how Lebron is the puppet-master of the Cavs.

[Kidd K]

If three-point shooting was better in :lol yesterday's NBA, why did they have to shorten the three-point line in the actual games?

To increase NBA scoring to make it more appealing to save falling ratings after their meal ticket abruptly retired.



To inflate the stats of 1 man


DK

Considering they shortened it after he retired the first time then put it back before he retired the 2nd time, one would come up with a much conclusion if they were thinking logically.

[lefty]

To increase NBA scoring to make it more appealing to save falling ratings after their meal ticket abruptly retired.




Considering they shortened it after he retired the first time then put it back before he retired the 2nd time, one would come up with a much conclusion if they were thinking logically.
DK asked for a shortened 3 pt line as a condition for his comeback

THE PLOT THICKENS.

[Clipper Nation]

To increase NBA scoring to make it more appealing to save falling ratings after their meal ticket abruptly retired.
But I thought yesterday's shooters were just as good as today's, if not better? Why would they need to shorten the line to increase scoring? Today's shooters don't need a shortened three-point line.

Also, :lol at falling for the "Jordan retired" meme.

[DAF86]

We are talking about the best vs. the best. So Curry is as good as Craig Hodges? Good for him.

Is Curry the best shooter ever then?

Of course Hodges isn't as good as Curry. When has Hodges displayed the kind of in-game shooting that Curry did? Don't be purposely dumb son.

[DMC]

Supposedly to increase scoring, which totally backfired because it packed the paint. Scoring actually went down.

It wasn't until the league changed the perimeter defense rules to open up the game that we finally saw an uptick in the scoring average in the league.



No doubt, but we are talking about pure shooting with all the variables taken out. You can say that players are shooting the three in :lol today's NBA defense vs. :wow yesterday's NBA defense, but the variable is that :lol today's NBA defense is different from :wow yesterday's NBA defense.



We are talking about the best vs. the best. So Curry is as good as Craig Hodges? Good for him.

Is Curry the best shooter ever then?



But the narrative is that :today's NBA players are so much better than :wow yesterday's NBA players in 3 pt shooting.
I addressed that. What do you think I was saying? Being a great 3pt shooter doesn't just mean being able to get dialed in with a rack of balls. It means during the flow of the game you can knock down 3's. Do I need to write this shit in fat crayons for you to get it? Of course the 3pt shooters of today are better, that's all they do. Pretending someone who takes 2 3pt shots a game to someone who takes 10 or more is futile. Marc Gasol is a great 3pt shooter compared to early 3pt shooters.

[DMC]

Of course. If :today's NBA players are better at 3 pt shooting, they should be better at the 3 pt shooting contest.

No it's not. You're talking about 30 shots. Take that to 300 or even 600 shots in the flow of the game. So if Curry goes 5 for 30 during the normal course of a few games, he's worse than someone who goes 6 for 30 on average for their careers?

[ambchang]

Of course Hodges isn't as good as Curry. When has Hodges displayed the kind of in-game shooting that Curry did? Don't be purposely dumb son.

As a three point shooter, of course.

[ambchang]

I addressed that. What do you think I was saying? Being a great 3pt shooter doesn't just mean being able to get dialed in with a rack of balls. It means during the flow of the game you can knock down 3's. Do I need to write this shit in fat crayons for you to get it? Of course the 3pt shooters of today are better, that's all they do. Pretending someone who takes 2 3pt shots a game to someone who takes 10 or more is futile. Marc Gasol is a great 3pt shooter compared to early 3pt shooters.

disagree. If someone is better at shooting in game, he's better shooting it in a 3 pt contest as well. The reverse may not be true.

As for those fat crayons, are you going to dip your fingers in wax?


No it's not. You're talking about 30 shots. Take that to 300 or even 600 shots in the flow of the game. So if Curry goes 5 for 30 during the normal course of a few games, he's worse than someone who goes 6 for 30 on average for their careers?

If Curry goes 5 for 30 in a contest, then he is worse than someone who went 6 for 30 in the same contest.

[DAF86]

As a three point shooter, of course.

Oh, yeah? Whn did Hodges pull something like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlVGtx-MQTg

I repeat, don't be purposely dumb son. You sometimes get there without having to try.

[djohn2oo8]

today's NBA crew taking L after L.

[lefty]

today's NBA crew taking L after L.

I'm confused

Is today's NBA crew actually the yesterday's NBA crew?

[lefty]

Regardless, I own both

[Clipper Nation]

Here's what Steve Kerr, who won the three-point contest in yesterday's NBA, had to say about the differences between shooting in the contest and shooting in actual games:


What are the keys to succeeding in the 3-Point Shootout?

I finally won on my last trip and I always felt like looking back, I just cared too much the first three times around. I wasn't loose, I was a little nervous and it is a very awkward thing to go out there and shoot all of those shots in front of everyone without having any teammates. It's different. You're firing away 25 shots in a minute. You're just not used to that kind of event. So the first couple of times I was a little nervous and I had more success later on when I just sort of relaxed and said, 'Have fun, enjoy it, let it fly and don't worry about it.' I think that's probably the best advice I can give to people.

Is it challenging to shoot off a rack in the competition instead of receiving passes in a game?

It's a little tricky. It really is. I practiced before hand and got used to it. A lot of players are more comfortable catching from a pass or even shooting off the dribble.

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/ex-three-point-champ-steve-kerr-reflects-on-nba-all-star-weekend-1.4648403

:lol Meanwhile, yesterday's NBA fan pretends it's the same thing.

[djohn2oo8]

I'm confused

Is today's NBA crew actually the yesterday's NBA crew?
yup

[ambchang]

Oh, yeah? Whn did Hodges pull something like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlVGtx-MQTg

I repeat, don't be purposely dumb son. You sometimes get there without having to try.

How can someone do something purposely without trying?

But then of course, we have always been talking about 3pt contest, as the title of the thread and pretty much all the post have been about. Unsure why you are pulling an in game reel to prove anything.

It's like saying the archery Olympic gold medalist is not as good of an archer who hunts with a bow.

[ambchang]

Here's what Steve Kerr, who won the three-point contest in yesterday's NBA, had to say about the differences between shooting in the contest and shooting in actual games:


What are the keys to succeeding in the 3-Point Shootout?

I finally won on my last trip and I always felt like looking back, I just cared too much the first three times around. I wasn't loose, I was a little nervous and it is a very awkward thing to go out there and shoot all of those shots in front of everyone without having any teammates. It's different. You're firing away 25 shots in a minute. You're just not used to that kind of event. So the first couple of times I was a little nervous and I had more success later on when I just sort of relaxed and said, 'Have fun, enjoy it, let it fly and don't worry about it.' I think that's probably the best advice I can give to people.

Is it challenging to shoot off a rack in the competition instead of receiving passes in a game?

It's a little tricky. It really is. I practiced before hand and got used to it. A lot of players are more comfortable catching from a pass or even shooting off the dribble.

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/ex-three-point-champ-steve-kerr-reflects-on-nba-all-star-weekend-1.4648403

:lol Meanwhile, yesterday's NBA fan pretends it's the same thing.

And yet :today's NBA player can't even break a 20 year old record set by a scrub in :yesterday's NBA.

Showing :lol today's NBA players wilting under pressure and not being able to loosen up on something they were supposedly so much better than :wow yesterday's NBA players.

:lol today's NBA players can't even practice shooting off a rack properly.

:lol today's NBA players are supposedly these super quick shooters who can't shoot 25 balls in a minute like :wow yesterday's NBA.

[DAF86]

How can someone do something purposely without trying?

I said "don't be purposely dumb son. You sometimes get there without having to try." meaning you sometimes get dumb without trying, so don't do it on purpose too. I think it was clear to understand for anyone with basic levels of reading comprehension skills, tbh.


But then of course, we have always been talking about 3pt contest, as the title of the thread and pretty much all the post have been about. Unsure why you are pulling an in game reel to prove anything.

It's like saying the archery Olympic gold medalist is not as good of an archer who hunts with a bow.

You for real son? :lol Your "As a three point shooter, of course" answer was in response to this comment I made:


Of course Hodges isn't as good as Curry. When has Hodges displayed the kind of in-game shooting that Curry did? Don't be purposely dumb son.

At first I thought you were being purposely dumb, now I'm starting to doubt it, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

Judging shooters based on the three-point contest (which bears almost no resemblance to the conditions of shooting in an actual game) is like judging hitters in baseball on how well they perform in the Home Run Derby.

[djohn2oo8]

And yet :today's NBA player can't even break a 20 year old record set by a scrub in :yesterday's NBA.

Showing :lol today's NBA players wilting under pressure and not being able to loosen up on something they were supposedly so much better than :wow yesterday's NBA players.

:lol today's NBA players can't even practice shooting off a rack properly.

:lol today's NBA players are supposedly these super quick shooters who can't shoot 25 balls in a minute like :wow yesterday's NBA.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2013/10/25/LeBronTerryDunk.gif

[lefty]

Amb

[Clipper Nation]

And yet :today's NBA player can't even break a 20 year old record set by a scrub in :yesterday's NBA.
:lol Hodges' old scoring record in any round has been surpassed three times in the last eight years, including each of the last two years. As for his consecutive shots record, Curry made 13 straight two years ago and we've seen five double-digit streaks in the last eight years. It's only a matter of time before that record gets broken, too.


Showing :lol today's NBA players wilting under pressure and not being able to loosen up on something they were supposedly so much better than :wow yesterday's NBA players.
New records in any-round scoring and final-round scoring have been set in each of the last two years. So much for wilting under pressure.


:lol today's NBA players can't even practice shooting off a rack properly.
:lol Why would anyone spend a ton of time practicing for something they'll never need to do outside of a meaningless All-Star contest?


:lol today's NBA players are supposedly these super quick shooters who can't shoot 25 balls in a minute like :wow yesterday's NBA.
:lol Yesterday's NBA players are supposedly comparable to today's players in three-point shooting, but they needed the line shortened for them in the actual games to even get close to today's percentages.

[lefty]

:lol Hodges' old scoring record in any round has been surpassed three times in the last eight years, including each of the last two years. As for his consecutive shots record, Curry made 13 straight two years ago and we've seen five double-digit streaks in the last eight years. It's only a matter of time before that record gets broken, too.


.

:lol today's NBA shooters needing more extra point balls

[Clipper Nation]

:lol today's NBA shooters needing more extra point balls
Jason Kapono set what were then the all-time records in any-round scoring and final-round scoring in 2008, before the extra money balls were added.

Plus, all the extra money balls did was add 4 more points to the maximum possible score in a round. Nobody's ever had a perfect score under either format, so it's not like that matters very much.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol today's NBA shooters needing rest
:lol while yesterday's NBA shooters were playing back to back to backs

[lefty]

:lol today's NBA shooters needing rest
:lol while yesterday's NBA shooters were playing back to back to backs
DJ

[Clipper Nation]

:lol today's NBA shooters needing rest
:lol while yesterday's NBA shooters were playing back to back to backs
Back-to-back-to-backs have only happened twice in the last few decades, during strike years in 1999 and 2011. But the 1999 lockout lasted longer and the season was shorter.

:lol Yesterday's players needing more time off
:lol Still showing up fat and out-of-shape after all that time off
:lol Yesterday's NBA

[Arcadian]

Of course. If :today's NBA players are better at 3 pt shooting, they should be better at the 3 pt shooting contest.

In the games, though. The guy who wins the 3P contest isn't always the best shooter in the NBA, just as the winner of the skills challenge isn't always the most skilled player.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao All-Star weekend as an argument? Lefty using "clutch stats" record-keeping as an argument? Shit is getting difficult to read, tbh..

On our side, we're discussing the change in demographics and the eradication of antiquated player types, while these niggas are talking about All-Star weekend:lol

[DMC]

disagree. If someone is better at shooting in game, he's better shooting it in a 3 pt contest as well. The reverse may not be true.

As for those fat crayons, are you going to dip your fingers in wax?


So Klay is a better 3pt shooter than Steph. Got it.




If Curry goes 5 for 30 in a contest, then he is worse than someone who went 6 for 30 in the same contest.
In that contest only. So if your point is that "great 3pt shooters in Today's NBA" only means in "that contest", you're correct. Otherwise you're not correct. You're using the 3pt contest results to judge in-game seasonal 3pt shooters.

[DMC]

:lol today's NBA shooters needing rest
:lol while yesterday's NBA shooters were playing back to back to backs

Yesterday's shooters were laying on their backs for the final years of their careers. I recall seeing Bird prone on the sidelines with a towel under his back. Oh the conditioning required for that is outrageous.

[DMC]

And yet :today's NBA player can't even break a 20 year old record set by a scrub in :yesterday's NBA.

Showing :lol today's NBA players wilting under pressure and not being able to loosen up on something they were supposedly so much better than :wow yesterday's NBA players.

:lol today's NBA players can't even practice shooting off a rack properly.

:lol today's NBA players are supposedly these super quick shooters who can't shoot 25 balls in a minute like :wow yesterday's NBA.

Never saw anyone have to pick up Ray Allen or Bird at the half court to avoid him hitting a 40' shot.

[DMC]

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[ambchang]

I said "don't be purposely dumb son. You sometimes get there without having to try." meaning you sometimes get dumb without trying, so don't do it on purpose too. I think it was clear to understand for anyone with basic levels of reading comprehension skills, tbh.

Don't get snarky son. Not entirely sure how your poorly constructed sentences meant. Did you mean that I shouldn't try to be purposely dumb? Or do you mean I get there without trying? If I wrote a response that you consider dumb, how can you tell if it was purposeful of done without effort? At the end of day, what is the purpose of the directive of not being purposely dumb if you have to follow up with the following sentence?



You for real son? :lol Your "As a three point shooter, of course" answer was in response to this comment I made:

Yeah, as a three point shooter in a 3 point shooting contest, of course. Do I have to draw you a diagram next time.


At first I thought you were being purposely dumb, now I'm starting to doubt it, tbh.

:cry, you sure showed how smart you are in this thread.

[ambchang]

:lol Hodges' old scoring record in any round has been surpassed three times in the last eight years, including each of the last two years. As for his consecutive shots record, Curry made 13 straight two years ago and we've seen five double-digit streaks in the last eight years. It's only a matter of time before that record gets broken, too.

Was that with or without the extra money balls?


New records in any-round scoring and final-round scoring have been set in each of the last two years. So much for wilting under pressure.

I got 27 points, but it's off of 34 points. I broke the record of 25 points, but that was off of 30 points. Let's make every single shot a money ball, it will break even more records.

:lol today's NBA using ABA gimmick balls to "break" records.



:lol Why would anyone spend a ton of time practicing for something they'll never need to do outside of a meaningless All-Star contest?

But they are so much better now than they were then, they shouldn't even need to practice, but after showing that they have to, they can't even do it properly.


:lol Yesterday's NBA players are supposedly comparable to today's players in three-point shooting, but they needed the line shortened for them in the actual games to even get close to today's percentages.

You mean like 25/30 at the same distance as :today's NBA line?

[ambchang]

Jason Kapono set what were then the all-time records in any-round scoring and final-round scoring in 2008, before the extra money balls were added.

Plus, all the extra money balls did was add 4 more points to the maximum possible score in a round. Nobody's ever had a perfect score under either format, so it's not like that matters very much.

Except Hodges already had 25/30 points in 1986, 22 years before Kapono set the record.

[lefty]

Yesterday's shooters were laying on their backs for the final years of their careers. I recall seeing Bird prone on the sidelines with a towel under his back. Oh the conditioning required for that is outrageous.
You do know Bird injured his back while doing what today's NBA stars wouldn't be able to do?

[ambchang]

In the games, though. The guy who wins the 3P contest isn't always the best shooter in the NBA, just as the winner of the skills challenge isn't always the most skilled player.

I wonder how they select the contestants though.

[ambchang]

So Klay is a better 3pt shooter than Steph. Got it.[/quote[

The same.


[QUOTE=DMC;8870757]In that contest only. So if your point is that "great 3pt shooters in Today's NBA" only means in "that contest", you're correct. Otherwise you're not correct. You're using the 3pt contest results to judge in-game seasonal 3pt shooters.

In the contest. Yes,

[ambchang]

Never saw anyone have to pick up Ray Allen or Bird at the half court to avoid him hitting a 40' shot.

Only if the topic is about :lol today's NBA players better at 40' shots than :wow yesterday's NBA players.

[HarlemHeat37]

You do know Bird injured his back while doing what today's NBA stars wouldn't be able to do?

I'm not surprised that you believe Bird was legit, tbh..the narrative of Bird being legitimately dominant is as believable as your guy Batman:lol

[DAF86]

Don't get snarky son. Not entirely sure how your poorly constructed sentences meant. Did you mean that I shouldn't try to be purposely dumb? Or do you mean I get there without trying? If I wrote a response that you consider dumb, how can you tell if it was purposeful of done without effort? At the end of day, what is the purpose of the directive of not being purposely dumb if you have to follow up with the following sentence?


"Not entirely sure how your poorly constructed sentences meant"??? Talking about poorly constructed sentences. :lol

My sentences were perfectly understandable for a person that knows how to construct and read sentences, tbh.


Yeah, as a three point shooter in a 3 point shooting contest, of course. Do I have to draw you a diagram next time.

Ooh, now you add the "3 point contest" bit? Again, poor attempt at trying to get your message across son. Anyway, why the fuck would you answer that to a comment I made literally talking about "in-game 3 pt shooting"? :lol



:cry, you sure showed how smart you are in this thread.

I've shown that for years, posting in this fourm, tbh.

[ambchang]

"Not entirely sure how your poorly constructed sentences meant"??? Talking about poorly constructed sentences. :lol

That sentence was fine.


My sentences were perfectly understandable for a person that knows how to construct and read sentences, tbh.

Not really. What was the purpose of it? If something dumb was said, how do you know if it was purposely done or unintended? If you can't tell, what is the point of the "warning" of not being purposely dumb?


Ooh, now you add the "3 point contest" bit? Again, poor attempt at trying to get your message across son. Anyway, why the fuck would you answer that to a comment I made literally talking about "in-game 3 pt shooting"? :lol

Because this entire thread is about 3 point contest son. While we are at it, do we have to define it as 3 pt shooting in an NBA sized court, and not some kindergarten gym where the three point line is 4 feet away and the net is 3 feet high?


I've shown that for years, posting in this fourm, tbh.

:cry intelligent internet warrior:clap:worthy::worthy::worthy:

[Kawhitstorm]

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So the guy jacking up the most shots made the most 3s, cute!:baby

[ambchang]

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Zb-hc45Q4g0xg3zY_2_tG5WLGxc=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6341487/gettingbetterallthetime.0.png

Nice, so :lol today's NBA's three point defense suck.

[DMC]

So the guy jacking up the most shots made the most 3s, cute!:baby

Hey math retard, look at the other axis... yeah over there where it says "3-pt percentage". There you go... now move along.

[Clipper Nation]

So the guy jacking up the most shots made the most 3s, cute!:baby

Do you not understand the concept of percentages?

Never mind actual games - you could lock Ricky Rubio in an empty gym and make him shoot nothing but threes for two hours and he still wouldn't sniff 45%. Curry takes the most threes because he's the best in the world at making them.

[DMC]

Nice, so :lol today's NBA's three point defense suck.

lol.. moving the goalposts.

With your logic you can never be wrong, if you are, then just change the logic.

[Clipper Nation]

lol.. moving the goalposts.

With your logic you can never be wrong, if you are, then just change the logic.
That's basically the mentality of yesterday's NBA fan - make retarded claims, move the goalposts a bunch of times and then declare victory.

The funniest part is that they still watch every single game and put money in the league's pockets, making the NBA even less inclined to bring back the isoball, hard fouls and 40-39 final scores they crave.

[DAF86]

That sentence was fine.

I tried googling "how they meant", I got nothing.


Not really. What was the purpose of it? If something dumb was said, how do you know if it was purposely done or unintended? If you can't tell, what is the point of the "warning" of not being purposely dumb?

i thought I knew, that's why I constructed the sentence that way. You not undersanding such a simple, and perfectly constructed, sentence made me start doubting the fact that you were being purposely dumb and got thinking you were actually this dumb, tbh.


Because this entire thread is about 3 point contest son. While we are at it, do we have to define it as 3 pt shooting in an NBA sized court, and not some kindergarten gym where the three point line is 4 feet away and the net is 3 feet high?

So? You quoted a post that literally said "in-game 3pt shooting". The topics of threads get changed constantly and sub-topics appear. Smart people understand this and answer to specific posts accordingly.


:cry intelligent internet warrior:clap:worthy::worthy::worthy:

Not a warrior, tbh. It's just that, over a certain period of time, folks are able to identify posters that know what they are talking about, and show a proper level of education, from those that don't, tbh.

[DMC]

Nothing like giving the ball to Dominique and watching him struggle or dunk while 4 guys stand around eating boogers on live TV. If you like that, watch OKC.

[DMC]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/GKbAvWsSAcBOM/200.gif

[LittleCriminal]

Nba should just have the top 10 league leaders in the all star 3 challenge..

[ambchang]

Do you not understand the concept of percentages?

Never mind actual games - you could lock Ricky Rubio in an empty gym and make him shoot nothing but threes for two hours and he still wouldn't sniff 45%. Curry takes the most threes because he's the best in the world at making them.

How can you tell? Rubio locked in a gym would be similar to a three point shooting contest that never ends, no?

[ambchang]

lol.. moving the goalposts.

With your logic you can never be wrong, if you are, then just change the logic.

Not really, in my first post in this thread I clearly stated that a variable between :lol today's NBA and :wow yesterday's NBA in three point shooting is the defense. They are different. I am actually consistent throughout the entire thread. It's :today's NBA fans that kept putting in game plan data as some sort of dispute.


That's basically the mentality of yesterday's NBA fan - make retarded claims, move the goalposts a bunch of times and then declare victory.

The funniest part is that they still watch every single game and put money in the league's pockets, making the NBA even less inclined to bring back the isoball, hard fouls and 40-39 final scores they crave.

I love slowing down for a car crash.

[djohn2oo8]

CN as Harlem's lapdog is incredibly sad and pathetic.

[ambchang]

I tried googling "how they meant", I got nothing.

Google is my overlord. All hail google.

:lol today's kids.



i thought I knew, that's why I constructed the sentence that way. You not undersanding such a simple, and perfectly constructed, sentence made me start doubting the fact that you were being purposely dumb and got thinking you were actually this dumb, tbh.

Still didn't answer the question. Your second sentence essentially negated the purpose of the first sentence, and they were back to back, thus they were poorly constructed because there was no flow to any logic.


So? You quoted a post that literally said "in-game 3pt shooting". The topics of threads get changed constantly and sub-topics appear. Smart people understand this and answer to specific posts accordingly.

I thought DMC and Clipper Nation was talking about something around moving goal posts, you might want to check with them what the goal post is for a thread that was titled "3pt contest ...."


Not a warrior, tbh. It's just that, over a certain period of time, folks are able to identify posters that know what they are talking about, and show a proper level of education, from those that don't, tbh.

And you are the sole person to determine that. Put that on your resume, it is quite an accomplishment.

[Kawhitstorm]

Do you not understand the concept of percentages?

Never mind actual games - you could lock Ricky Rubio in an empty gym and make him shoot nothing but threes for two hours and he still wouldn't sniff 45%. Curry takes the most threes because he's the best in the world at making them.

He ain't even the best 3 point shooter on his own team or his family, he's just the best chucker.:sleep

[Kawhitstorm]

Hey math retard, look at the other axis... yeah over there where it says "3-pt percentage". There you go... now move along.

I actually did & his '16-'17 stats are off the charts b/c he has been mediocre as he isn't allowed to chuck up bad shots since Dominos is more efficient.

[Clipper Nation]

How can you tell? Rubio locked in a gym would be similar to a three point shooting contest that never ends, no?
Not really. He could shoot threes off the dribble in an empty gym. Or maybe bring a teammate with him to pass the ball to him. You know - things that actually happen in games.


CN as Harlem's lapdog is incredibly sad and pathetic.
:cry "Anyone who disagrees with me is Harlem's lapdog!" :cry

[DMC]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?


Not really, in my first post in this thread I clearly stated that a variable between :lol today's NBA and :wow yesterday's NBA in three point shooting is the defense. They are different. I am actually consistent throughout the entire thread. It's :today's NBA fans that kept putting in game plan data as some sort of dispute.



I love slowing down for a car crash.

[DMC]

I actually did & his '16-'17 stats are off the charts b/c he has been mediocre as he isn't allowed to chuck up bad shots since Dominos is more efficient.

Keep running and trying to be pithy.

[Clipper Nation]

I thought DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) and Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500) was talking about something around moving goal posts, you might want to check with them what the goal post is for a thread that was titled "3pt contest ...."

The original thread was actually about who we want to see in the three-point contest. You turned the thread into another butthurt rant about :cry "today's NBA" :cry by trying to use the three-point contest as "proof" that yesterday's shooters were better. Then, after being proven wrong over and over again, you moved the goalposts to complaining about today's perimeter defense.

If you're going to complain about people not sticking to the topic, maybe don't hijack the thread and change the topic a bunch of times.

[Kawhitstorm]

Keep running and trying to be pithy.

GojXl1tySns

[ambchang]

Not really. He could shoot threes off the dribble in an empty gym. Or maybe bring a teammate with him to pass the ball to him. You know - things that actually happen in games.

How would the gym be empty if he brings in a teammate?

[ambchang]

Thanks, consistency throughout. Take the variable of defense out, thus 3 pt shooting contest.

[Clipper Nation]

How would the gym be empty if he brings in a teammate?

:lol Already reduced to semantics arguments

Just give it up already, you've lost the debate.

[Clipper Nation]

Take the variable of defense out, thus 3 pt shooting contest.

Damn, you're stupid.

[ambchang]

The original thread was actually about who we want to see in the three-point contest. You turned the thread into another butthurt rant about :cry "today's NBA" :cry by trying to use the three-point contest as "proof" that yesterday's shooters were better. Then, after being proven wrong over and over again, you moved the goalposts to complaining about today's perimeter defense.

If you're going to complain about people not sticking to the topic, maybe don't hijack the thread and change the topic a bunch of times.

It's about 3-pt contest, I am talking about 3-pt contest. No hi-jack.

As for perimeter defense, a chart was posted, I responded.

[ambchang]

:lol Already reduced to semantics arguments

Just give it up already, you've lost the debate.

You said empty gym, then you said bring a teammate in.

In a three point shooting contest, you can dribble the ball, you just lose time doing it.


Damn, you're stupid.

How? You remove the defense, and it's 3 pt shooting contest rules.

[Clipper Nation]

In a three point shooting contest, you can dribble the ball, you just lose time doing it.
Which is why you don't dribble.


How? You remove the defense, and it's 3 pt shooting contest rules.
At no point in an actual basketball game does the league roll out racks full of balls and tell the best shooter on either team that they have a minute to score as many points as they can from beyond the arc. So no, taking away the defense alone does not leave you with three-point shooting contest rules.

It's retarded to judge players' ability based on a meaningless gimmicky contest during All-Star Weekend than on what actually happens in games that count.

[DMC]

How would the gym be empty if he brings in a teammate?

And, but and or will get you very far. Is Engrish not your 1st language?

Conjunction junction, what's your function?

Hooking up words and phrases and clauses...


This OR that, not this AND that.

[DMC]

You said empty gym, then you said bring a teammate in.

In a three point shooting contest, you can dribble the ball, you just lose time doing it.



How? You remove the defense, and it's 3 pt shooting contest rules.

:lol.. so there's rebounding, head fakes, step backs and spot ups? Is there a 24 second shot clock? Can you run up and take the shot off a pass?

ambchink

[Arcadian]

I wonder how they select the contestants though.

Does their performance in the 3P contest correlate decently well with their 3P% in the season? Idk, maybe it does, just wondering.

And sometimes they don't choose the best shooters. Will Green or Leonard be chosen this year?

[ambchang]

And, but and or will get you very far. Is Engrish not your 1st language?

Conjunction junction, what's your function?

Hooking up words and phrases and clauses...


This OR that, not this AND that.
Grammar warrior. :worthy.

And no, English isn't my 1st language. It's actually a horrible language full of exceptions and is essentially a bastard of multiple other languages. But I can see why it's something you seem to be the proudest of.

[ambchang]

:lol.. so there's rebounding, head fakes, step backs and spot ups? Is there a 24 second shot clock? Can you run up and take the shot off a pass?

ambchink
You can do all of those in the contest.

[ambchang]

Which is why you don't dribble.


At no point in an actual basketball game does the league roll out racks full of balls and tell the best shooter on either team that they have a minute to score as many points as they can from beyond the arc. So no, taking away the defense alone does not leave you with three-point shooting contest rules.

It's retarded to judge players' ability based on a meaningless gimmicky contest during All-Star Weekend than on what actually happens in games that count.
You mean they are not totally exactly the same and thus can't be compared directly? Like how the perimeter defense rules and generally offensive philosophies are different between eras which means a definitive conclusion of which players are better is impossible due to the different circumstances using that logic.

You either take the l here or stop with you cross era comparisons from this point on then.

[DMC]

Grammar warrior. :worthy.

And no, English isn't my 1st language. It's actually a horrible language full of exceptions and is essentially a bastard of multiple other languages. But I can see why it's something you seem to be the proudest of.

Yet here you are using an argument that disregards the rules of language, as if "or" doesn't have a logical function.

[DMC]

You can do all of those in the contest.

This isn't a language issue. This is you being stupid.

[DAF86]

Google is my overlord. All hail google.

:lol today's kids.

I've studied English for years, that's why I'm bilingual. You can't find "how they meant" in books either.


Still didn't answer the question. Your second sentence essentially negated the purpose of the first sentence, and they were back to back, thus they were poorly constructed because there was no flow to any logic.

No, my second sentence didn't negate the fist one. If you can't realize that it's your problem son, not mine. I have already explained to you what those two sentences meant, tbh.


I thought DMC and Clipper Nation was talking about something around moving goal posts, you might want to check with them what the goal post is for a thread that was titled "3pt contest ...."

I didn't move any goalpost, since my first post in this thread I've been talking about "in-game 3pt shooting". If you didn't want to talk about that you shouldn't have quoted my comment.


And you are the sole person to determine that. Put that on your resume, it is quite an accomplishment.

When you are sure about who you are, you don't reassurance from others, tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol DMC, CN and Daf on this page:wow:wow

[ambchang]

Yet here you are using an argument that disregards the rules of language, as if "or" doesn't have a logical function.

So a gym can be empty or not-empty when it's an empty gym. Brilliant logic.


This isn't a language issue. This is you being stupid.

It could be done, and yet they were not done, I guess why ... Perhaps your self proclaimed superior intelligence can try to think down those lines and guess what the argument is.


I've studied English for years, that's why I'm bilingual. You can't find "how they meant" in books either.

You have been studied for years, that's why you are bisexual.


No, my second sentence didn't negate the fist one. If you can't realize that it's your problem son, not mine. I have already explained to you what those two sentences meant, tbh.

Of course it does. The second sentence renders the first question meaningless.


I didn't move any goalpost, since my first post in this thread I've been talking about "in-game 3pt shooting". If you didn't want to talk about that you shouldn't have quoted my comment.

Too bad we have been talking about the 3 pt shooting contest all along.

A: Amplifiers made 30 years ago are just as good as those today. look at these measurements.
D: But the old amplifiers do not have the necessary outputs and power to drive modern speakers. I win.


When you are sure about who you are, you don't reassurance from others, tbh.

No wonder you have been trying hard to get reassurances.

[mudyez]

One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in :lol today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?

Surprisingly, none of these came during the brief time (95-97), the 3Pt line was shorter (22ft).

[Kidd K]

But I thought yesterday's shooters were just as good as today's, if not better? Why would they need to shorten the line to increase scoring? Today's shooters don't need a shortened three-point line.

Also, :lol at falling for the "Jordan retired" meme.

Your question there is literally already answered in the one sentence you quoted.

You're right though, today's scorers don't need a shortened 3pt line. . .or to ever be touched by the defense on the perimeter without a foul being called.