Should we trade Aldridge?

[Cklbmk]

He never preforms against relevant teams.

Should we cash him out and fully build around Murray and Leonard?

[FkLA]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/facepalm.gif

[Chinook]

Those irrelevant-ass Golden State Warriors.

[GB20]

Not and shot the fuck up

[timtonymanu]

Those irrelevant-ass Golden State Warriors.

But forum experts said it was a fluke game

[coachmac87]

For who?? Melo??

[Cklbmk]

For who?? Melo??


I was thinking Jimmy Butler

[cjw]

I guess he wasn't putting up 40 in a few games against a team with Adams and Ibaka last year in the playoffs

[coachmac87]

I was thinking Jimmy Butler

And who plays the 4?

[RD2191]

Lol. What a stupid question..of course we should. He's a soft ass faggot. Worthless piece of shit when it matters.

[HarlemHeat37]

Aldridge played fine on offense and on the boards, tbh..he's never going to dominate Thompson in the post, but it doesn't matter..

He wasn't that good defensively, but nobody really was for the Spurs outside of Kyle..tough to play defense vs. the Cavs on the road..

[PopTheGOAT]

And who plays the 4?
Fathead

[sasaint]

And who plays the 4?

Spurs trade LMA + Danny for Butler + RoLo
Season with pick(s) as necessary.

[Cklbmk]

And who plays the 4?


DavidLee.

[Slippy]

Aldridge was the teams defensive anchor last night.Whether it was on a switch, man on man or team defense he was there. Majority of the time Aldridge was involved the team got the stop . In a way he allowed Kawai to concentrate on offense . The middle was soft when he sat the bench.

On offense he picked his spots, didnt force it against Thompson whos a great post defender & got others involved with 6 assists.

A trade request after beating last years champs minus 2 key role players. Keep it up spurs fans. Lol

[Mnky]

Aldridge was the teams defensive anchor last night.Whether it was on a switch, man on man or team defense he was there. Majority of the time Aldridge was involved the team got the stop . In a way he allowed Kawai to concentrate on offense . The middle was soft when he sat the bench.

On offense he picked his spots, didnt force it against Thompson whos a great post defender & got others involved with 6 assists.

A trade request after beating last years champs minus 2 key role players. Keep it up spurs fans. Lol

People don't realize he is the anchor of this defense much like Duncan was. When he's out of the game, the defense usually plays horrible against smart teams. He rebounds and gets assists, and forces the defense to not cheat off him, opens the lanes, spreads the floor.

There are 2 or 3 guys in the NBA that could do what he does for the spurs.. I'm always up for upgrading, but how do you get better? Second best record and undefeated against the top two contenders at their home...

Perfection obsession is real.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Great post after a solid win against the defending champions, I will recommend it to my wife and her friends!

[SAGirl]

I doubt very much there are any trades.. Frankly the team is doing very well, and that weighs in favor of standing pat.

[CGD]

Not this season, too important. But if they lose 3 or more of Manu, Simmons, DD, Lee, and Mills this summer, then next year becomes a retool year. I might consider seeing what I can get for LMA and Danny.

[Chillen]

Spurs trade LMA + Danny for Butler + RoLo
Season with pick(s) as necessary.

If I was RC I would only do LMA+Danny for Butler+Rondo+Nico. I like the thought of Butler and Leonard giving the Warriors a huge damn headache.

[Cklbmk]

Who's changed their mind now

[spurraider21]

i defend LMA quite a bit but dude is playing scared of a 39 year old guard :lol

[Leetonidas]

His head is definitely somewhere else a lot this season

[mexicanjunior]

Yes...fuck that POS...

[DAF86]

Get Melo and speed the process for Bertans aka "the future all-star".

Tony
Green
Kawhi
Bertans
Pau

Mills
Manu
Melo
Lee
Dedmon.

[cjw]

Get Melo and speed the process for Bertans aka "the future all-star".

Tony
Green
Kawhi
Bertans
Pau

Mills
Manu
Melo
Lee
Dedmon.

assume you're trading Gasol too to somewhat make salaries match. Or completely ignoring them.

[DAF86]

assume you're trading Gasol too to somewhat make salaries match. Or completely ignoring them.

I didn't check the numbers but Melos and LAs salaries must not be so far off.

[cjw]

I didn't check the numbers but Melos and LAs salaries must not be so far off.

I misread and thought you were trading Bertans for Melo. LMA wouldn't survive in NY in a million years

[Cklbmk]

I misread and thought you were trading Bertans for Melo. LMA wouldn't survive in NY in a million years


Not our problem once he ships out

[Spurs9]

Yes

[HarlemHeat37]

As one of the biggest Aldridge haters on this forum, he's actually playing like I would like him to play as an individual player, ironically:lol He has become a super role player(like Thunder Ibaka, for example)..

Unfortunately, the Spurs are built around him being the #2 option that can carry a load, and he hasn't been anywhere near that player, offensively..

[pgardn]

Hell fckn NO.

You want KL in a complete bottle, trade Aldridge.

Bunch of fn wet cliff jumping tampons.

[Darius Bieber]

Yes. He's not built for this role.

[DAF86]

I'm seriously starting to think this is the way to go. Let's face it, we are never going to ring with LA as the second option. Our chances of ringing cling on Murray and Bertans development in the next few years and/or the moves we could make. Speeding up the process of at least Bertans could be beneficiary for the near future. Switching a midrange shooter (LA) for a three point shooter (Bertans), in the SL, is another win for in today's NBA, tbh.

[Darius Bieber]

I'm seriously starting to think this is the way to go. Let's face it, we are never going to ring with LA as the second option. Our chances of ringing cling on Murray and Bertans development in the next few years and/or the moves we could make. Speeding up the process of at least Bertans could be beneficiary for the near future. Switching a midrange shooter (LA) for a three point shooter (Bertans), in the SL, is another win for in today's NBA.

Bertans is gone next year. Only a one season contract.

[pgardn]

Hell fckn NO.

You want KL in a complete bottle, trade Aldridge.

Bunch of fn wet cliff jumping tampons.

[DAF86]

Bertans is gone next year. Only a one season contract.

We re-sign him, tbh.

[Nathan89]

I'd keep him for this season. I'd move him after the season if looking forward I thought he was going to want a bigger contract than he's worth.

[DAF86]

Do you seriously think that trading LA for a decent wing and a third string Center would limit this team's WCF ceiling? At this point, I trully don't.

[MaNu4Tres]

Agree with Harlem in how he needs to be like OKCs Ibaka ( value tied to interior & PnR defense & boards). His offense is incredibly limited due to his inefficiency outside of his overrated mid range.

Aldridge is too predictable and too sloppy on the block. Smart teams never double ...those open 3s on strong side Danny gets vs the Kings and Lakers are fools gold. Ive been saying this after a lot of ST bold and greys overrate his true offensive value. He doesnt create good looks with the ball for himself or anyone...hes just a finisher that can Pop out in PnRs.

[DAF86]

Do you seriously think that trading LA for a decent wing and a third string Center would limit this team's WCF ceiling? At this point, I trully don't.

Something along the lines of Terrence Ross and Lucas Nogueira.

[DPG21920]

Agree with Harlem in how he needs to be like OKCs Ibaka ( value tied to interior & PnR defense & boards). His offense is incredibly limited due to his inefficiency outside of his overrated mid range.

Aldridge is too predictable and too sloppy on the block. Smart teams never double ...those open 3s on strong side Danny gets vs the Kings and Lakers are fools gold. Ive been saying this after a lot of ST bold and greys overrate his true offensive value. He doesnt create good looks with the ball for himself or anyone...hes just a finisher that can Pop out in PnRs.

Well he still get doubled a ton. I think you are giving him the Melo treatment and taking the hate too far. He has a legit shot out to the 3point line. He's just struggling.

He's never going to be mega efficient and you are correct about his post game (he needs to keep working on seeing doubles better) but he still has plenty of gravity.

[HarlemHeat37]

Something along the lines of Terrence Ross and Lucas Nogueira.

:lol

[Hoops Czar]

Agree with Harlem in how he needs to be like OKCs Ibaka ( value tied to interior & PnR defense & boards). His offense is incredibly limited due to his inefficiency outside of his overrated mid range.

Aldridge is too predictable and too sloppy on the block. Smart teams never double ...those open 3s on strong side Danny gets vs the Kings and Lakers are fools gold. Ive been saying this after a lot of ST bold and greys overrate his true offensive value. He doesnt create good looks with the ball for himself or anyone...hes just a finisher that can Pop out in PnRs.

Agreed on Aldridge. Not understanding the love for him at all. He couldn't even get the blazers out of the first round of the playoffs. But Ibaka didn't have a ton of success outside of playing against the Spurs and OKC never won the title.

[DAF86]

:lol

That's how low I think of him right now, tbh. :lol

If it could get done I would trade him for nothing but draft picks. I honestly think this team wouldn't miss a beat without his softass turnaround bricks. We are beating any 1st round team, and he's not a game changer against any possible 2nd round opponent, against a healthy Clippers team we're losing either way, and we can beat the Rockets and Jazz without him.

[DPG21920]

That's how low I think of him right now, tbh. :lol

If it could get done I would trade him for nothing but draft picks. I honestly think this team wouldn't miss a beat without his softass turnaround bricks. We are beating any 1st round team, and he's not a game changer against any possible 2nd round opponent, against a healthy Clippers team we're losing either way, and we can beat the Rockets and Jazz without him.

Even just his defense gives SA a chance against anyone outside of GS

[DAF86]

Even just his defense gives SA a chance against anyone outside of GS

Trade him for Robin Lopez if you want defense. I might be overreacting right now, but my patience just ran out with his inefficient, sissy ass offensive game.

Here's to hoping this is rock bottom for him and he picks it up from here, as he did last season.

[BatManu20]

No. You're not going to get equal value in return. He's annoyingly soft and inconsistent, and will always be inefficient, but he's still easily our best #2 option, so we gotta roll with him. Just have to hope he becomes more consistent and mans up for the playoffs.

[HarlemHeat37]

Everybody knows how much I dislike Aldridge(the infamous 80+ page thread from last year:lol), but he's actually been a legitimate defensive anchor, this season..he has been extremely disappointing offensively, but he has become one of the best super role players in the NBA(Ibaka, Bosh, Gobert type)..

[Blake]

You trade LA now and no big free agent will ever come here again

[MaNu4Tres]

No. You're not going to get equal value in return. He's annoyingly soft and inconsistent, and will always be inefficient, but he's still easily our best #2 option, so we gotta roll with him. Just have to hope he becomes more consistent and mans up for the playoffs.


The second best option (in terms high % shot creation might be the third string point guard tbh..

[MaNu4Tres]

You trade LA now and no big free agent will ever come here again

Big FAs hardly jump ship after their 2nd deals. The new CBA is making it even harder with longer deals now.

[TheGreatYacht]

You trade LA now and no big free agent will ever come here again
Spurs will go from 1 big free agent in 2 decades of greatness, to none? Huge drop off tbh

Willing to give it a try

[vander]

I was surprised to find that he's shooting 49% this year, seems like 33%.

we know he has another gear, maybe even 2, just got to hope he uses them in the playoffs

[Chinook]

I sleep through one game, and the world falls apart...

[spurraider21]

Everybody knows how much I dislike Aldridge(the infamous 80+ page thread from last year:lol), but he's actually been a legitimate defensive anchor, this season..he has been extremely disappointing offensively, but he has become one of the best super role players in the NBA(Ibaka, Bosh, Gobert type)..it was 81+ before some deleted posts tbh :lol

[EIC]

Spurs will go from 1 big free agent in 2 decades of greatness, to none? Huge drop off tbh

Willing to give it a try

[EIC]

The blocks by Carter are just a perfect encapsulation of Softridge's game. Zero heart and aggression. Nothing kills me like a soft quasi-7 footer and we have two. Other than the first few games of the OKC series last year (and the first game this year), he's been mediocre at best and anemic at worst. Trade his ass.

[Cklbmk]

Bertans is gone next year. Only a one season contract.


Wrong.

He's under contract next year also then hes RFA

[Cklbmk]

I sleep through one game, and the world falls apart...

It's not just 1 game.

It's like 6/10 games.

[kuato]

Aldridge was never a good defender... when the shot is not falling he is useless, like Parker

[Chinook]

It's not just 1 game.

It's like 6/10 games.

No. I don't see why anyone cares at all what he does versus weak teams. We already know what he can do in the post-season. Everything else is just spinning wheels. Then again, you want to drop two firsts to bring in Rubio, so we just aren't going to agree on the roster in all likelihood.

[Blake]

Spurs will go from 1 big free agent in 2 decades of greatness, to none? Huge drop off tbh

Willing to give it a try

I'm not talking just super stars. I'm talking about David West, Pau, Brent Barry type guys too

[NameLess Scrub]

I want him to success here. This might just be a result of his poor work ethic in the offseason.
Hope he really turns it on in the playoffs. I think any idea of trading him is for discussion / fantasizing only.

[mo7888]

I don't think you trade him now. We should let the season play out and if we flame out in the playoffs then trade him near the draft.

[rjv]

Get Melo and speed the process for Bertans aka "the future all-star".

Tony
Green
Kawhi
Bertans
Pau

Mills
Manu
Melo
Lee
Dedmon.

melo and LMA are the same head case with different skill sets.

[coachmac87]

Still waiting for someone on the trading LA bandwagon to come up with a legit deal...

[Chinook]

Still waiting for someone on the trading LA bandwagon to come up with a legit deal...

You mean the Spurs can't win it all with Amir Johnson as their starting PF?

[SAGirl]

Aldridge was never a good defender... when the shot is not falling he is useless, like Parker
I think you are confused.
Thats Mills

[SAGirl]

You mean the Spurs can't win it all with Amir Johnson as their starting PF?
Maybe they can't win it all with Mr Charmin Softridge either.. there are some who want to build for the future... Still this game Kawhi and Pau didn't play and what no one will talk about: Mr Rising Star The Juice played like a dleague scrub.... I would steerr away from overpaying Juice. He's going to be 28, stat pads in garbage time, the Spurs have lost both game he started and he has a streaky slow jumper. For a small contract commensurate with a small role as a 10th guy he's good value. I think I am with HarlemHeat37 when it comes to him. If he's going to be overpaid in the offseason, it will be a mistake....

Anyways Lamarcus struggled and It was compounded by Spurs shooters being cold.

I won't overreact to a trade lynch mob bc both Kawhi and Pau were not playing. With better offensive players beside him maybe he turns things on in the postseason and this is just a meaningless game. Hopefully.

[coachmac87]

You mean the Spurs can't win it all with Amir Johnson as their starting PF?

Lmao...only if they bring back Kevin Martin

[gambit1990]

yes, he and parker.

[GSH]

All I can say is that I hope you aren't managing your own 401K's.

[DAF86]

melo and LMA are the same head case with different skill sets.

Melo can at least attack the rim and volume 3pt shoot.

[Strategic]

Lmao...only if they bring back Kevin Martin How dare you mention the latest Tom Riddle.

[HarlemHeat37]

They wouldn't really be able to replace Aldridge's impact, tbh..

Ideally, the Spurs would acquire a penetrating guard and another shooter..statistically, the Spurs are a bottom-level team at the drive and kick, which is worrisome when compared to their peers:

Houston #2
Golden State #7
Cleveland #9
Spurs #21(only Memphis and Utah are worse among playoff teams in either conference, and the latter has been killed by injuries to their guards)

Unfortunately, losing Aldridge would kill the team's defense and lower its ceiling(since he's still an effective scorer when he's hot), though..Dedmon could replace his defense for stretches, but he's a foul machine that can't give you more than 15 MPG(and doesn't have an offensive game)..Pau could replace his offense, but he's nowhere near the defender..

[Spurs9]

They wouldn't really be able to replace Aldridge's impact, tbh..

Ideally, the Spurs would acquire a penetrating guard and another shooter..statistically, the Spurs are a bottom-level team at the drive and kick, which is worrisome when compared to their peers:

Houston #2
Golden State #7
Cleveland #9
Spurs #21(only Memphis and Utah are worse among playoff teams in either conference, and the latter has been killed by injuries to their guards)

Unfortunately, losing Aldridge would kill the team's defense and lower its ceiling(since he's still an effective scorer when he's hot), though..Dedmon could replace his defense for stretches, but he's a foul machine that can't give you more than 15 MPG(and doesn't have an offensive game)..Pau could replace his offense, but he's nowhere near the defender..
What trade would you target for Aldridge? Is Cousins being shopped at all? Maybe target some plays from Pacers or Minny? PG13/Miles Turner/Wiggins

[gambit1990]

trading la alone won't magically fix things.

you still have parker, who managed to put up 2 assists and 2 turnovers in 29 minutes last night.

[Spurs9]

trading la alone won't magically fix things.

you still have parker, who managed to put up 2 assists and 2 turnovers in 29 minutes last night.

I'm for trading him tbh

[NameLess Scrub]

All I can say is that I hope you aren't managing your own 401K's.

:lol

[Cklbmk]

No. I don't see why anyone cares at all what he does versus weak teams. We already know what he can do in the post-season. Everything else is just spinning wheels. Then again, you want to drop two firsts to bring in Rubio, so we just aren't going to agree on the roster in all likelihood.

Attacking for a year old post that was prior to Murray's relevancy and traded players no longer on the team? Come on you're better than that

[Chinook]

Attacking for a year old post that was prior to Murray's relevancy and traded players no longer on the team? Come on you're better than that

I'm not attacking you. This is Spurstalk. Attacks don't have to be subtle here. You and I just fundamentally do not agree on the roster. In the same way you thought guys like Rubio were upgrades, you think it's possible to upgrade from LMA. Or you believe that the Spurs should not push to win this season.

[gambit1990]

are the spurs still interested in ibaka?

[HarlemHeat37]

What trade would you target for Aldridge? Is Cousins being shopped at all? Maybe target some plays from Pacers or Minny? PG13/Miles Turner/Wiggins

There's no realistic trade for Aldridge that would make the Spurs better, tbh..

Realistically, the Spurs probably aren't winning a title until they improve their PG situation, barring injury..Parker is virtually useless and Mills is a SG..every other top team has good to great PGs(Curry, Harden, Paul, Conley, Westbrook, Kyrie, Wall, Lowry, Thomas)..

Sucks, because the Spurs wouldn't even need a star at PG like Curry or Westbrook..a really good PG like Dragic or even an above average guy like Hill would be fine..

[GSH]

There's no realistic trade for Aldridge that would make the Spurs better, tbh..


/thread

[south side spur]

are the spurs still interested in ibaka?

Aldridge and a 1st round pick for Ibaka, Gordon and Hezonja would be a fair trade and one that would bring in the youth to build around Kawhi.

[lilbthebasedgod]

Aldridge is one of the best big man defenders in the league so even if he's not great offensively hes got that

[tbdog]

Ibaka will get paid more than what LMA will earn next year.

[Cklbmk]

I'm not attacking you. This is Spurstalk. Attacks don't have to be subtle here. You and I just fundamentally do not agree on the roster. In the same way you thought guys like Rubio were upgrades, you think it's possible to upgrade from LMA. Or you believe that the Spurs should not push to win this season.


I think theres better fits which would be better for us. Not really a better player, but Ibaka would be a better fit here.

Rubio would be an upgrade to Parker and Mills also

[xtremesteven33]

Spurs should do a trade if it presents itself. Aldridge is never going to be the guy they want him to. I hope im wrong, but I just dont see it.

[Ice009]

I'd like Ibaka, but I wouldn't trade Aldridge for him. Next season Ibaka will probably get a bigger contract than what Aldridge has now, and he's not a better player than Aldridge. I certainly wouldn't want to trade LA for Ibaka and then have to pay Ibaka more money to stay next season than what Aldridge is getting now. If we could somehow get him as a rental for the rest of this season without giving up Kawhi or LA I'd do it.

[sasaint]

I'd like Ibaka, but I wouldn't trade Aldridge for him. Next season Ibaka will probably get a bigger contract than what Aldridge has now, and he's not a better player than Aldridge. I certainly wouldn't want to trade LA for Ibaka and then have to pay Ibaka more money to stay next season than what Aldridge is getting now. If we could somehow get him as a rental for the rest of this season without giving up Kawhi or LA I'd do it.

I doubt that Ibaka will get a bigger contract next season than Aldridge is getting paid this season. But his being on an expiring contract is not necessarily a bad thing. The Spurs would have his Bird rights. But even if the team let Ibaka walk, that would clear cap space if the Spurs wanted to pursue Griffin. JaMychal Green and other options will also be available for less money, leaving cap space for even another significant signing.

[gambit1990]

while i've been on board to trade lma, the main problem is parker.

part of the reason i'm willing to trade lma is so that we can package tony.

[GSH]

Aldridge is never going to be the guy they want him to. I hope im wrong, but I just dont see it.


Well he's not ever going to be the guy ST wants, that's for fucking sure. Most people here say they wouldn't want LeBron. Definitely not Curry. They think Draymond is overrated AF. Durant is a cuck. Westbrick is a loser. Harden? Don't even talk about Harden. SpursTalk hates all those guys, and would never want them on the team.

Strangely, most of them WOULD trade the whole team for Porzingis or the Greek Freak. But as soon as they got here, people would be screaming to trade them too. Why should LMA get any special treatment?

[Ice009]

while i've been on board to trade lma, the main problem is parker.

part of the reason i'm willing to trade lma is so that we can package tony.

LOL. If we can package Tony with LA, then forget about everything I've said. I'll fly to the US, drive them to the airport and then fly back to my own country without even going anywhere else.

[MultiTroll]

There's no realistic trade for Aldridge that would make the Spurs better, tbh..

Realistically, the Spurs probably aren't winning a title until they improve their PG situation, barring injury..Parker is virtually useless and Mills is a SG..every other top team has good to great PGs(Curry, Harden, Paul, Conley, Westbrook, Kyrie, Wall, Lowry, Thomas)..

Sucks, because the Spurs wouldn't even need a star at PG like Curry or Westbrook..a really good PG like Dragic or even an above average guy like Hill would be fine..
Agree.
But, would Griffin for Aldridge make the Spurs better or strictly a lateral move?

[MultiTroll]

Spurs trade LMA + Danny for Butler + RoLo
Season with pick(s) as necessary.
If Chicago would be game, do it.

[MultiTroll]

I initially thought you meant Butler and Rhondo. ^^

[sasaint]

I initially thought you meant Butler and Rhondo. ^^

LOL. No! Robin Lopez, a true center who plays hard and doesn't shy away from contact.

[Ice009]

If Chicago would be game, do it.

It really sucks thinking about trading for Butler as I was looking at the 2011 draft earlier today.

29th pick Spurs draft Cory Joseph
30th pick Bulls draft Jimmy Butler

59th pick Spurs draft Adam Hanga
60th pick Kings draft Isaiah Thomas

I know drafting is hit and miss, but those two players were picked right after the Spurs' picks, so it kind of makes me feel like more of a close miss. So close yet so far type of thing. Spurs could have left that draft with a haul of Kawhi, Butler, Bertans and Thomas. That's almost a whole starting 5. I'm most upset about Isaiah Thomas. I loved the way he played the first time I saw him in a Kings uniform, thought he would have been sick off the bench for the Spurs - A superior version of Speedy Claxton. He's really turned himself into an amazing player. Anyone seen what he's been doing this season? Not sure if he can keep up his current play, but it appears that he's getting better and better.

[Cklbmk]

Should we trade him for Jeff Green just to clear his salary?

[spursistan]

I would do a Millsap for LMA, tbh..His offensive versatility is way more valuable..

[Mal]

It really sucks thinking about trading for Butler as I was looking at the 2011 draft earlier today.

29th pick Spurs draft Cory Joseph
30th pick Bulls draft Jimmy Butler

59th pick Spurs draft Adam Hanga
60th pick Kings draft Isaiah Thomas

I know drafting is hit and miss, but those two players were picked right after the Spurs' picks, so it kind of makes me feel like more of a close miss. So close yet so far type of thing. Spurs could have left that draft with a haul of Kawhi, Butler, Bertans and Thomas. That's almost a whole starting 5. I'm most upset about Isaiah Thomas. I loved the way he played the first time I saw him in a Kings uniform, thought he would have been sick off the bench for the Spurs - A superior version of Speedy Claxton. He's really turned himself into an amazing player. Anyone seen what he's been doing this season? Not sure if he can keep up his current play, but it appears that he's getting better and better.

Thomas plays no defense at all. He wont play his offense with Parker on board, and wont get into rotation without playing defense.

[MaNu4Tres]

His offense is incredibly limited due to his inefficiency outside of his overrated mid range.

Aldridge is too predictable and too sloppy on the block. Smart teams never double ...those open 3s on strong side Danny gets vs the Kings and Lakers are fools gold. Ive been saying this after a lot of ST bold and greys overrate his true offensive value. He doesnt create good looks with the ball for himself or anyone...hes just a finisher that can Pop out in PnRs.


tbh

[SAGirl]

tbh
He does get doubled... not bc they fear him IMO, but bc he's such a poor passer that he will cough up the ball b4 he finds a teammate. I had already seen that in game 4 of the Memphis series and it has continued from there on. He's not going to get what he wants in the post. He's going to get blitzed/flashed doubled by Beverly or whomever and cough it up.

[MaNu4Tres]

He does get doubled... not bc they fear him IMO, but bc he's such a poor passer that he will cough up the ball b4 he finds a teammate. I had already seen that in game 4 of the Memphis series and it has continued from there on. He's not going to get what he wants in the post. He's going to get blitzed/flashed doubled by Beverly or whomever and cough it up.

Teams mix it up for the very reason you pointed out.. but they are anticipating his passes like defenses anticipate Brock Osweiler's passes because he's so predictable.

My point is, he doesn't create the type of doubles that create better opportunities. Teams are anticipating closing out if they can't deflect the pass. So how are these type of traps beneficial to the others on the Spurs?

Also, Rockets left Ryno to defend him 1 on 1 in 4 other possessions and LA couldn't take advantage. I wasn't surprised... he's been a 43% option in the post all season long. Massively overrated player in the post not just in this forum, but on twitter and from SAENS own media guys.

Post play in general is one of the worst styles of offense in 2017. You can't compete w/ the best teams in a 7 game series playing post up 40% basketball while they get 40-50 40% threes the other way. I said it last off-season but many people here tried to argue Gasol/LA would be an advantage in the post against smaller teams. Not the case, why? Because they don't have the foot speed/footwork to make effective moves towards the rim that warrant weakside attention. Teams can play them straight up and easily stay between them and the basket -- making them take 40% contested hooks or dumbass fadeaways. If Spurs are getting contested 2's at a 40% clip, while HOU/GS are getting 40-50 40% 3's a game, in a 7 game series.. it won't be close.. not by a long shot.

[SAGirl]

Teams mix it up for the very reason you pointed out.. but they are anticipating his passes like defenses anticipate Brock Osweiler's passes because he's so predictable.

My point is, he doesn't create the type of doubles that create better opportunities. Teams are anticipating closing out if they can't deflect the pass. So how are these type of traps beneficial to the others on the Spurs?

Also, Rockets left Ryno to defend him 1 on 1 in 4 other possessions and LA couldn't take advantage. I wasn't surprised... he's been a 43% option in the post all season long. Massively oriented player in the post not just in this forum, but on twitter and from SAENS own media guys.
He doesn't... they need to move away from him. As you said, he's a finisher not a creator. This series is over if Pop keeps going to him and he's not going to change. He's not all of sudden going to play Dijon, Bertans and Kyle more (I know you don't like him but damn he's better than this Lamarcus tbh.)

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He doesn't... they need to move away from him. As you said, he's a finisher not a creator. This series is over if Pop keeps going to him and he's not going to change. He's not all of sudden going to play Dijon, Bertans and Kyle more (I know you don't like him but damn he's better than this Lamarcus tbh.)

Dijon, Dedmon need to play more... Anderson is too much of a liability on offense while Simmons is too much of a liability on both offense and defense.

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He doesn't... they need to move away from him. As you said, he's a finisher not a creator. This series is over if Pop keeps going to him and he's not going to change. He's not all of sudden going to play Dijon, Bertans and Kyle more (I know you don't like him but damn he's better than this Lamarcus tbh.)

Pop won't though. Pop will keep going big and will probably go inside to Pau/LA more because that's what he thinks will win ... unfortunately.

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"I was very candid with him," Gregg Popovich recalled months later. "I told him, 'I'd be happy to trade you. You get me a talent like Kevin Durant, and I'll drive you to the airport. I'll pack your bags. And I will drive you there, get you on the plane, and get you seated.' He laughed, you know, that kind of thing.

"I said, 'But short of that, I'm your best buddy because you're here for another year, and you ain't going nowhere. Because we're not gonna get for you talentwise what we would want. So let's figure this thing out.' And we did."

The trade request didn't become public until Popovich told reporters that it had been a catalyst for Aldridge's best season in San Antonio. Their discussions had made Popovich realize that he had been "overcoaching" Aldridge, the legendary coach said. Popovich changed his approach, and Aldridge signed a two-year extension before the regular season started. Aldridge made the All-NBA Second Team in 2018, made his seventh All-Star team in 2019 and remained with the Spurs until they agreed to a buyout in 2021.

Link
A history of unfulfilled NBA trade requests, from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to Scottie Pippen to Kobe Bryant - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/a-history-of-unfulfilled-nba-trade-requests-from-kareem-abdul-jabbar-to-scottie-pippen-to-kobe-bryant/)

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Their discussions had made Popovich realize that he had been "overcoaching" Aldridge, the legendary coach said.

Well, no shit. Aldridge had already played 9 years and been an All-star 4 times when he signed with the Spurs. You can't just take a veteran player who's already established himself as a star and try to change the way he plays.