After Pop's Political Rants, I'm Done With Spurs

[Blue-Lightning]

It's clear OP is just looking for attention. If he cared at all about the honor and dignity of the office, he wouldn't have voted a corrupt, inept, con-man who sinisterly played to the ignorant, homophobic, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic tendencies of one part of the Republican base and the hurt, fearful, disenfranchised part of the other to get himself elected.

I don't know of many billionaire businessmen who are ignorant, Trump included. I know of zero evidence Trump is anti-gay whatsoever. I also know of zero evidence Trump is racist - and being in favor of immigration reform is not racism. Likewise, while I do believe Trump has been and may still be a womanizer, I do not believe him to be in any way anti-woman, see no evidence as such, and would prefer to have a womanizer in the white house than the rapist Bill Clinton and his enabling wife.

[Blue-Lightning]

I get voting for Trump, as Clinton is a ridiculous piece of shit the DNC was desperately trying to anoint since 2008 despite everyone rightfully hating her. But :cry you can't criticize the president and disrespect the office :cry is the fucking weakest shit ever.

You CAN criticize the president without disrespecting the office - but that's not what Pop did, and he recognized he wasn't doing that when he explained why it's okay to do so in his mind now that Trump is president. That's why he crossed a line, and my money will no longer go towards the Spurs. As this spreads, I suspect other reasonable people will take similar approaches.

[Blue-Lightning]

:cry


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Random people often say stupid and ridiculous things. These are random people. Pop is not a random person. If I can forego giving these idiots in the pictures money, I'll be happy to do that as well.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

No you're not.

I'm not done with the Spurs. Never will be as long as they represent my city. And I'm a conservative. Who the fuck cares about the politics of the coach?

Quit being a pussy.

[Blue-Lightning]

I love hearing this because I don't want sit next to you. Pop is dead-on when he says you can't believe 'anything that comes out of his mouth.' He is dead-on when he talks about how pathetic Conway and Spicer look defending those lies when the whole world can see the truth. Yesterday millions of people in every major city on the planet, except Moscow (where they'd be beaten and maimed for doing so), came out in the largest and most unified marches in history against Trump's racist, sexist, and xenophobic rhetoric. I love Pop for staying the obvious when asked.

This being said there are Spurs fans that might support Trump and I could care less. Enjoy the games and let's talk about the games. If you start a thread on the premise that anyone gives a f*ck about what you think then you have the abuse you are receiving coming to you. I don't think they will miss the $2 you spent on the sticker on your car either. Maybe you can cover it up with a "Grab'em By The Pussy" sticker.

Telling someone who disagrees with you that "you don't want to sit" with them is one step away from dehumanizing others. When we denigrate others, we invoke the worst of human tendencies. I fear the American left has strategized this to be an acceptable method for furthering their political endeavors.

[Blue-Lightning]

Does the OP disown family members who don't share his political beliefs?

I did have distant relatives at one point contemplate having a party at a small restaurant a white supremacist owns. I made it known that if they went to said restaurant I would never have anything to do with them again.

There are certain lines not to be crossed. Normal political disagreements are not those lines.

[Trainwreck2100]

You CAN criticize the president without disrespecting the office - but that's not what Pop did, and he recognized he wasn't doing that when he explained why it's okay to do so in his mind now that Trump is president. That's why he crossed a line, and my money will no longer go towards the Spurs. As this spreads, I suspect other reasonable people will take similar approaches.

what did he say that disrespected the office and not the man

[Blue-Lightning]

OP is a triggered snowflake

I'm soooo triggered... =|

[Blue-Lightning]

:lol this guy again?

There was an epic meltdown from this guy about the 'rigged' NBA a long ass time ago, IIRC, after the OKC series in '13... not worth the time digging up (or maybe it is, hilarious stuff)

Frankly, meltdowns like that and this one are dime a dozen here, it probably won't be taken seriously anyways.

In case you're really gone, hopefully your programming career is going well, tbh, as well as your writing hobby. And congrats on Trump, tbh...

Thanks for the kind words. And yes, I still hold that the Spurs received negative calls that game against the Thunder because the NBA had money to lose if the Spurs won. I almost stopped watching the NBA because of how egregious the calls were.

Best of luck to you in the future, El Nono! Always enjoyed reading your stuff.

[spurraider21]

I'm soooo triggered... =|
i believe you after this gem tbh

I've been a Spurs fan since 2002, purchased their stuff, went to games, followed them closely. I've got a Spurs tag on my vehicle, and I live in Tennessee where that's not common.

I'm done with the Spurs.

If Popovich is going to publicly berate the president of the United States and speak gloriously of the women wearing "pussy" hats and cheering Madonna as she talks about thinking of physically destroying the White House, I'm out. Not watching another Spurs game. I wanted to enjoy fundamental basketball, not see the president I voted to clean up crony elitists selling out the middle class be ridiculed in ways that nobody would ever say about Obama. When he won, none of this stuff happened... we might not have liked what he was doing, but we respected democracy and the office.

It was a fun decade routing for my favorite team. Watching Manu and Timmy (was never a Parker fan) was a real treat.

Over and out,

- BL

[Blue-Lightning]

Love how OP also claims to be one of the "most die-hard Spurs fans around" yet will disown the team as a whole because the coach said something he disagrees with because it's "dangerous".

As if anything a coach of a small market basketball team says is any more dangerous than the things Trump says when he plays to his base.

Popovich is probably the most influential coach in the NBA.

[Blue-Lightning]

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:cry "be respectful of our president"

Fun fact, Trump's parents are both immigrants, and so is his wife(is it his third or fourth wife? Small hands can't keep em happy :lol)

While Obama's mother was an american citizen, as well as her mother(who raised Obama) and her mother, etc etc you can actually go all the way back as far as the 1700s, and Obama's maternal great great great great grandparents can be found living in South carolina iirc :lol

Here's another tweet just for jokes

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:lol Trump insulting someone's temperament (he spelled it wrong as well)

All of your points are legitimate issues that I also shared. Although I voted for Trump, it was in large part because of just how corrupt the Clintons are, and how desperately we need the elite class in the United States cleaned out (and globally as well). Had Popovich expressed his issues as you have done, rather than saying we can't believe anything the POTUS ever says, I'd still be interested in the Spurs.

[Blue-Lightning]

^^Maybe Trump could've put his ego and narcissism aside to please his wife if he were able to marry Ivanka. Especially since, you know, he said himself that he would date her if he could.

Lol @ OP simply calling Trump a womanizer when he is a full-on sexual predator. :lol

Bill Clinton actually raped a woman. Violently. Let's not pretend we had a viable option to vote for other than Trump.

[DJR210]

OP is a monumental faggot

[Blue-Lightning]

Bye, bitch

See ya, ass.

[RD2191]

I'm convinced we're being trolled.

[Blue-Lightning]

I love it when lower middle class people like Blue-Lightning have epic melties :lmao

Well, I'm posting this from my upstairs office on a 40" monitor. I just came back from Orlando and I'm heading to Vegas in a few weeks. I'm not sure I'd call myself lower middle class, but then again, I wouldn't stoop so low as to label individuals based solely on their socioeconomic status.

[Blue-Lightning]

You're a great example of what Pop was talking about.

"And all the things that he said during that time, if our children would've said it, we'd a grounded him for six months. Without a doubt. But we ignore all that because, because why? That says something about all of us and that's what's dangerous, or that's what scares the hell out of me to this day." - Pop

Trump supporters are very insecure of their leader, so whenever someone criticizes him they deflect like their life depends on it.

"Trump's said some racist shit before, it makes me uneasy as a minority" "Well, hey look at this! Hilary said this about black people"

"Trump made fun of the disabled, that's not cool" "Well, hey look Obama made fun of the disabled too! :cry Why is Donald the only one getting in trouble :cry"

If they can't find an example of Obama or Hilary committing similar offense, they'll just chalk it up to fake news or SJW whining.

They laud themselves on being more informed than the left, which is usually true, but they only use the information as confirmation bias to support their guy. Kind of a waste.

Take Syria for example. They claimed they didn't want Hilary because, she would put a no fly zone over Syria and start WW3(lol, Mutual assured destruction has deterred major powers from going to war for decades, but this was different!! :rolleyes). But at the same time, Trump supporters are pretty informed on the US-Syria-Russia relations. They know that the US and Russia have conflicting interests in the ME, and the conflict in Syria isn't as simple as Trump saying "Hey Putin, let's be best friends!"

But they ignored it and ran with,

":cry Hilary will start WW3"
":cry we bitched about Obama being weak but we'll welcome a President who is happy to be bent over by Putin"

These people who refuse to be critical of Trump, obviously have underlying reasons they voted for him. What those reasons are, I won't assume.

(im a minority that voted for trump btw before you call me a bleeding liberal)

The first time I've ever read anyone suggest Clinton would have started WW3 was in your post here about what Trump voters say. I think you are not in touch with reality as it actually is.

[Blue-Lightning]

When someone says goodbye and doesn't leave..
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When someone sees a "goodbye" that doesn't exist...

http://memeshappen.com/media/created/Well-this-is-awkward-meme-17358.jpg

[Blue-Lightning]

Look I disagree with Pop and think he is misinformed in that in today's world everyone creates their own facts right? But I still respect him as a person and as a coach. I don't have to agree with his political views. I wish he wouldn't speak out about it but it's his right to use his platform as he will.

And it's my right to revoke my support for a team which thinks its okay to rationalize attacking POTUS personally rather than criticizing issues (not sure I care to hear the political punditry of coaches, but whatever). But of course I still respect Pop as a person and as a coach - he's one of the all time greats. But as long as he's going to make these sorts of diatribes, I can't support it.

[Blue-Lightning]

Relax. The Spurs owners the Holts are strong Trump backers.

They contributed more to his election campaign than almost any Texan.

Let Pop do his thing. He's gotta make it good with his players firstly And I suspect they are all anti Trump.

And that's why I hope that the Holts will have Pop "clarify" his statements. I can't support any groups that promote potentially dangerous views of the POTUS, whether the office is held by an R, a D, or an I. I would love to return to supporting the Spurs down the road, but I can't do it as long as Popovich is making statements in which he has to explain why it's okay not to respect the presidency.

[Blue-Lightning]

Door, ass, etc

If one were to say this to an illegal immigrant, it would be sickening, no? That's why I find very little difference in the offended and the offenders... too many people who are exactly the same on both sides.

[Blue-Lightning]

Don't let the door slam on your ass on the way out...good riddance..

Again, if this is the way we feel we should talk to other humans, our culture is in for serious trouble.

[Blue-Lightning]

Pop is a diehard liberal but that does not mean I can not like the spurs
I bleed silver and black

I don't mind Pop being a liberal. But when he verbatim explains why he thinks its okay now to not respect the office of the president, there's a line crossed in which I can no longer support him. It's like supporting all sorts of free speech, even if it offends me, but if you yell "fire" in a crowded theater it crosses a line.

[Blue-Lightning]

Good grief. Can't even get away from you "tolerate my racism/sexism" shitheads on the damn Spurs forum.

You understand that this is a team that is the model for a league investing in people from all walks of life? Why the fuck would you expect one of the pillars of that culture to not say anything about a dog-whistling, KKK-courting shit-stain?

Get the fuck out and don't come back, OP. Stormfront is a great safe space for Trumpets. Why not go hang out there? And take the other "conservative" shits with you. Tired of these sad fucks poisoning almost literally everything. Jesus Fucking Christ.

We conservatives control every branch of government at the federal level, the Supreme Court, the executive, and the vast majority of state and local governments. And just as the Republican party fought for and freed the slaves in the 1800s, just like the Republican party fought against the KKK-supporting Democrats in the 50s and 60s, we will continue to support liberty and freedom for all peoples. So rather than going to whatever "Stormfront" is, I'll just go to the normal public where people mostly elected conservatives to represent in government. And as the country continues to improve, your offensive rants will continue to look more and more like lunacy, which is what they are.

[Blue-Lightning]

would you feel the same way if he was berating the president of the US 8 years ago? fuck no you wouldn't so shut the fuck up.

I'll give you the answer to your question when you stop presuming and telling others to "shut the fuck up." I find telling others to "shut the fuck up" to be the antithesis of free speech, and thus anti-American. Hopefully you can improve your dialogue and conversational skills.

[Blue-Lightning]

Oh man you're clearly such a huge loss to the Spurs fan base. How on earth can the Spurs continue as a basketball team without you, Blue Lightning?

It is rare that any one person holds a unique viewpoint.

[Blue-Lightning]

Don't ever just accept a president because they are the president. That's dangerous thinking, shit that would lead to a real life 1984 situation. Always question authority.

We accept the results of a fair election. Trump was elected fairly, Clinton conceded because of this. And while we can disagree with a president (and often should), we should never make an argument for why it's okay to disrespect the office of the president. That's what Pop did, and that's why I'm out until it is reversed.

[Blue-Lightning]

Go away faggot none of us care.

Says the guy who responds. I also find it chilling that so many of you think it's okay to name-call. I worry that you think name-calling somehow empowers you rather than reduces your dialogue.

[Blue-Lightning]

Now, going forward, I only plan to respond to those who actually post something substantive. If all you want to do is ad hominem, don't expect a response. I.e. if you don't get a response, look up "ad hominem" and see if that's what you did.

[gospursgojas]

Blue Lightning is a black guy

[Leetonidas]

Goodbye. I'm glad to see someone who objectifies women as pieces of meat in his signature does not support Trump.

Lol sissy faggot

[Trainwreck2100]

We accept the results of a fair election. Trump was elected fairly, Clinton conceded because of this. And while we can disagree with a president (and often should), we should never make an argument for why it's okay to disrespect the office of the president. That's what Pop did, and that's why I'm out until it is reversed.

What did he say that was so offensive

[monkeypunk]

I believe in open, free, and RESPECTFUL dialogue.

You mean the kind of dialogue that shitbird in office routinely shits on?

The cyberbullying he does against anyone and every one that dares to report what he actually says?

Or the tax returns that he swore he would release that Conway now says "No one cares to see them."

Or the swamp of his nominees that refused under oath to answer ethical questions?

Grab them by their pussy is respectful in what country, exactly?

[Blue-Lightning]

What did he say that was so offensive

He said that with Trump as president, he can no longer respect the office of the presidency. He also said you can believe nothing the president says. These are both over the line in that they are dangerous statements from an influential, public figure.

[monkeypunk]

I'll give you the answer to your question when you stop presuming and telling others to "shut the fuck up." I find telling others to "shut the fuck up" to be the antithesis of free speech, and thus anti-American. Hopefully you can improve your dialogue and conversational skills.

Think Trump will improve his dialogue and conversational skills?

Real question...

[rasuo214]

Everyone has their own political opinions, whether it's Pop, the players or the fans and they're entitled to them. Personally I'd prefer politics out of sports (unless they're directly related) but I won't stop rooting for a team just because of the coach's political views.

[monkeypunk]

He said that with Trump as president, he can no longer respect the office of the presidency. He also said you can believe nothing the president says. These are both over the line in that they are dangerous statements from an influential, public figure.

Still tame compared to the flood of statements given by DT.

[Blue-Lightning]

You mean the kind of dialogue that shitbird in office routinely shits on?

The cyberbullying he does against anyone and every one that dares to report what he actually says?

Or the tax returns that he swore he would release that Conway now says "No one cares to see them."

Or the swamp of his nominees that refused under oath to answer ethical questions?

Grab them by their pussy is respectful in what country, exactly?

I don't know that I would say Trump "cyberbullies." Also, Trump has said and continues to say that he'll release his tax returns after the audit is over. I'll wait to find out if that's true before I make a judgement. I don't know of any nominees who refused to answer ethical questions under oath, and if you provide videos of them, I'd love to take a look. While "grab them by their pussy" is about as bad as it gets, we had to vote on either Trump or a woman who is married to a known, violent racist who rigged the democrat primaries. That's the cards we were dealt.

[Blue-Lightning]

Think Trump will improve his dialogue and conversational skills?

Real question...

Given his success with the current strategy, I find it doubtful.

[monkeypunk]

Again, if this is the way we feel we should talk to other humans, our culture is in for serious trouble.

Has anything DT has said over the last few months been the way you think we should speak to people?

How about making fun of handicapped people in front of thousands of people and broadcast to millions more?

Pretty uplifting speeches, huh?

[Blue-Lightning]

Has anything DT has said over the last few months been the way you think we should speak to people?

How about making fun of handicapped people in front of thousands of people and broadcast to millions more?

Pretty uplifting speeches, huh?

We covered the handicap lie earlier in this thread. You should go take a look at it since you believe a falsehood. Here's a line from the inaugural speech that I feel many should take to heart:

"When we open our hearts to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." -- Donald Trump, January 20th

[Trainwreck2100]

He said that with Trump as president, he can no longer respect the office of the presidency. He also said you can believe nothing the president says. These are both over the line in that they are dangerous statements from an influential, public figure.

He said trump was a liar and then backed it up with his lies. He said there's a difference between respecting the office and respecting the man. What website did you use that paraphrased it that way?

[Blue-Lightning]

He said trump was a liar and then backed it up with his lies. He said there's a difference between respecting the office and respecting the man. What website did you use that paraphrased it that way?

I watched the video. Anyone can watch it for themselves and see him make the argument for not respecting the presidency, not just the president himself. He also said you can't believe anything POTUS says, which is a dangerous comment for a public figure.

[8FOR!3]

And it's my right to revoke my support for a team which thinks its okay to rationalize attacking POTUS personally rather than criticizing issues (not sure I care to hear the political punditry of coaches, but whatever). But of course I still respect Pop as a person and as a coach - he's one of the all time greats. But as long as he's going to make these sorts of diatribes, I can't support it.

I mean it's definitely your right to do that.

[boutons_deux]

He also said you can't believe anything POTUS says, which is a dangerous comment for a public figure.

:lol Fox, Repugs, right-wing hate media trashed, slandered, libeled Obama for 8 years.

But anybody say anything TRUE about the corrupt, treasonous, lying, mentally ill orange turd? That's not "fair", "sad, so sad"

You rightwingnut assholes are so fucking stupid, ignorant.

[Blue-Lightning]

:lol Fox, Repugs, right-wing hate media trashed, slandered, libeled Obama for 8 years.

But anybody say anything TRUE about the corrupt, treasonous, lying, mentally ill orange turd? That's not "fair", "sad, so sad"

You rightwingnut assholes are so fucking stupid, ignorant.

Let's give you a chance...

Name one thing Fox News lied about Obama.

The press lied about Trump within 3 hours, saying he had removed the MLK bust from the Oval Office (turned out to be totally false). But let's see if you can name one thing Fox News lied about Obama.

[AaronY]

Gotdamn if Pop continues to trigger da Trumpbots and Kawhi keeps averaging 30 to keep the team entertaining this could be my favorite Spurs team ever even w/o managing to win a title

[Trainwreck2100]

I watched the video. Anyone can watch it for themselves and see him make the argument for not respecting the presidency, not just the president himself. He also said you can't believe anything POTUS says, which is a dangerous comment for a public figure.

True or false trump lied to the American people?

[Biggems]

I'm a conservative, voted for Trump, hated Obama, hated the Clintons even more......but, I am not going to stop being a lifelong Spurs fan, just cause a coach or player has different political views than I do. I will say this, I do not understand all the Trump bashing and blame. He wasn't even the President yet, and all the country's problems were being thrown at him by his haters.

I understand if you don't like him. He is still the President of the US and should at least be given an opportunity to show what he can do. Give him a year do try and get things done, and if he fails to deliver, then march, protest, call your representative or senator, and definitely go to the ballot box in 2020. Also, if you are going to march or protest, do it peacefully. You have no right to vandalize or destroy personal or public property during your demonstration.

As for all the Congressmen and women who did not go to the inauguration, I feel they should be reprimanded. I don't care who the President is, you have a duty to show respect to the office, as an elected official. I find their actions to be childish, immature, disrespectful, and classless.

[FireMicoHalili]

It is rare that any one person holds a unique viewpoint.
Okay, bring your friends along with you. Boycott Spurs games. Don't buy tickets. Cancel your Game Time subscriptions. Let's see if the Spurs bat an eyelash.

[FireMicoHalili]

A lion does not lose sleep over the opinion of sheep. Bye, sheep.

[Cry Havoc]

I'm a conservative, voted for Trump, hated Obama, hated the Clintons even more......but, I am not going to stop being a lifelong Spurs fan, just cause a coach or player has different political views than I do. I will say this, I do not understand all the Trump bashing and blame. He wasn't even the President yet, and all the country's problems were being thrown at him by his haters.

I understand if you don't like him. He is still the President of the US and should at least be given an opportunity to show what he can do. Give him a year do try and get things done, and if he fails to deliver, then march, protest, call your representative or senator, and definitely go to the ballot box in 2020. Also, if you are going to march or protest, do it peacefully. You have no right to vandalize or destroy personal or public property during your demonstration.

As for all the Congressmen and women who did not go to the inauguration, I feel they should be reprimanded. I don't care who the President is, you have a duty to show respect to the office, as an elected official. I find their actions to be childish, immature, disrespectful, and classless.

2.9 million people marched yesterday. The largest protest in US history. There were no arrests in a wide majority of the cities where the marches took place.

[Trainwreck2100]

I'm a conservative, voted for Trump, hated Obama, hated the Clintons even more......but, I am not going to stop being a lifelong Spurs fan, just cause a coach or player has different political views than I do. I will say this, I do not understand all the Trump bashing and blame. He wasn't even the President yet, and all the country's problems were being thrown at him by his haters.

I understand if you don't like him. He is still the President of the US and should at least be given an opportunity to show what he can do. Give him a year do try and get things done, and if he fails to deliver, then march, protest, call your representative or senator, and definitely go to the ballot box in 2020. Also, if you are going to march or protest, do it peacefully. You have no right to vandalize or destroy personal or public property during your demonstration.

As for all the Congressmen and women who did not go to the inauguration, I feel they should be reprimanded. I don't care who the President is, you have a duty to show respect to the office, as an elected official. I find their actions to be childish, immature, disrespectful, and classless.

Pop's words verbatim "I hope he succeeds"

[Biggems]

2.9 million people marched yesterday. The largest protest in US history. There were no arrests in a wide majority of the cities where the marches took place.

maybe no arrests, but a limo was set on fire, other things were set on fire in the middle of the street, stores and restaurants had windows broken........so even though no one was arrested, there was still vandalism and some not so peaceful demonstration.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Watch this, and learn:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZlgSjm9KIo


What people don't realize is Trump can't be bought. That is why BOTH Republican and Democrats tried to derail his bid for President. Putin is another. He is anti New World order and has given several speeches stating just that. That is why there is nothing but negative publicity for both and the media is working so hard to make Trump and Putin look like they are Hitler reincarnated.

I grew up with Trump as a kid. I read his books, watch him hugging and shaking hands with the likes of Jesse Jackson, Don King, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, etc. as I was a huge boxing fan as a kid. I never remember anyone ever saying Trump was a racist for 30 years or him showing any prejudices when conducting business or entertainment with non-white participates.

But today's youth have to be the most stupidest and ignorant pieces of shit ever to exist. So much knowledge at your finger tips and you listen to what media outlets spoon feed you.

Pop is really becoming a PUSSY. Shut the fuck up already. Trump is not a misogynist. Go watch officer and a gentleman and say that Sgt Foley was some racist homophobic misogynist pig. No, he is not. The military breaks you to make you the best fighting men and women in the world. Trump is a business man from New York where nice, happy go lucky people get eatin alive. Yes he is a hard ass. But he is an excellent business man. I forgot what company, but one of the big company CEO's from Atlanta went to New York about 4 years ago and he was appalled how many BUSINESS WOMEN used the F word. They were like fuck this and fuck that. That's New York for you. So get off Trump's ass you sensitive pussy. Shit, this is becoming pathetic. Being a prior Military Man, Pop should know that Trump just uses Military tactics to win arguments. Trump went to a Fuckin Military School for 4 years (HS) for crying out loud where they employ those very tactics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGs-tXWpR4

[baseline bum]

LOL Pop went to a better military school for four years.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Pop's words verbatim "I hope he succeeds"

So why is he constantly criticizing him when has done one freakin' thing to be consider misogynist. He called Rosie all those names and yes she is a pig. She is a disgusting excuse for a human being. Trump isn't the most verbose person out there, and he uses questionable choice of words. But that doesn't make him a woman hater. Trump is from NEW YORK people, where probably the most hard ass business folks in the world go and succeed. People are just so damn sensitive nowadays.

[ElNono]

And that's why I hope that the Holts will have Pop "clarify" his statements.

There's nothing to "clarify". Just like there's nothing to "clarify" when the KKK speaks their mind, or anarchists or Madonna or Trump when he was a birther or anybody else. The right to speak our minds is possibly the strongest foundation of our freedoms.

There's social scorn, media/public condemnation, etc, but that's the extent of it. If that's not enough for you, and want to remove your support for the team, I don't think Pop loses sleep (nor does Holt) about a Tennessee fan turning his back over political views.

Actually "having" (aka forcing) somebody to go out there and say something they don't actually believe in under duress is pretty close to fascism, if not outright fascism.

These kind of fascist "solutions" stick out like a sore thumb every time, tbh... it's like a guy that goes "you gotta kill all those fucking ******s", he's a racist piece of shit, he's basically self-denouncing his racism. Just like those civil libertarian on the other end of the spectrum that go like "well, that kid that killed, chopped off his grandparents and then ate them, well... the poor kid didn't really have an education... His dad beat him up, so you gotta consider that". That guy is a fucking idiot too.




We conservatives control every branch of government at the federal level, the Supreme Court, the executive, and the vast majority of state and local governments.

That makes conservatives, at most, powerful. No right, not wrong, not morally superior or inferior. Not even popular. One could correctly make the counter-argument that the vast majority of the actual voting population is non-conservative. And those people too have the same caveats.

Pop is completely right on one thing though: The hope he does well. All of them. You might not trust the guy (or guys), and disagree and whatever, but if it works out for America as a whole, regardless if you're team red or blue, then THAT's the ultimate fuck you. So all this knee jerking right now, from both sides, is just that. Proof will be in the pudding, as they say.

[baseline bum]

So why is he constantly criticizing him when has done one freakin' thing to be consider misogynist. He called Rosie all those names and yes she is a pig. She is a disgusting excuse for a human being. Trump isn't the most verbose person out there, and he uses questionable choice of words. But that doesn't make him a woman hater. Trump is from NEW YORK people, where probably the most hard ass business folks in the world go and succeed. People are just so damn sensitive nowadays.

Well there was the time he bragged about sexually assaulting women.

[Cry Havoc]

maybe no arrests, but a limo was set on fire, other things were set on fire in the middle of the street, stores and restaurants had windows broken........so even though no one was arrested, there was still vandalism and some not so peaceful demonstration.

2,900,000 marched and you can count on one hand the number of things that resulted in damage, all from one small group of people wearing black jumpsuits.

It's fucking absurd how transparent your narrative is. Keep trying to justify your viewpoints.

[baseline bum]

Then there was the time Trump got caught on video lusting after that ten year old girl on the elevator.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

LOL Pop went to a better military school for four years.

Air Force Academy where they had rapes galore over the past 30 years. Yeah, what a proud Alma Mater for Pop. I was accepted to the USAF Academy but my father advise me not to go b/c you are required to do 8 years of service as oppose to 4 years if you just go through OTS. It was a wise choice as I got out of the OTS b/c I knew my wife couldn't handle to rigors of Military life as I was sent to be a US Intelligent Operative in the DIA.

Military Prep Schools are stricter than the USAF Academy if you didn't know. There is a reason they cost like 30k+ a year to attend. Pop just needs to shut the F up already and do his job. If he wants to get interview by ABC, CNN, etc. schedule an interview. But postgame and NBA interviews aren't a place to talk politics. He is a doing a fantastic job coaching the Spurs this year, stick with it, and stop being so butt hurt over something you can't control at this point.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

The hilarious thing for me, as a conservative, is that Trump is actually not as far right as many of the past few Republican candidates. Libs have bought so much into the identity politics, though, that their only move is to immediately brand anyone with an "R" by their name as racist/sexist/bigot/etc. Even though Trump has lived his life in the public eye for decades on end :lol

It'll be interesting to see how this goes. Trump wasn't my first choice for GOP nominee, but I'm damn glad he beat Hillary.

[Trainwreck2100]

There's nothing to "clarify". Just like there's nothing to "clarify" when the KKK speaks their mind, or anarchists or Madonna or Trump when he was a birther or anybody else. The right to speak our minds is possibly the strongest foundation of our freedoms.


If the Holts told Pop to clarify his statement he'd be out the door, and he'd take the coaching staff with him.

[Cry Havoc]

There's nothing to "clarify". Just like there's nothing to "clarify" when the KKK speaks their mind, or anarchists or Madonna or Trump when he was a birther or anybody else. The right to speak our minds is possibly the strongest foundation of our freedoms.

There's social scorn, media/public condemnation, etc, but that's the extent of it. If that's not enough for you, and want to remove your support for the team, I don't think Pop loses sleep (nor does Holt) about a Tennessee fan turning his back over political views.

Actually "having" (aka forcing) somebody to go out there and say something they don't actually believe in under duress is pretty close to fascism, if not outright fascism.

These kind of fascist "solutions" stick out like a sore thumb every time, tbh... it's like a guy that goes "you gotta kill all those fucking ******s", he's a racist piece of shit, he's basically self-denouncing his racism. Just like those civil libertarian on the other end of the spectrum that go like "well, that kid that killed, chopped off his grandparents and then ate them, well... the poor kid didn't really have an education... His dad beat him up, so you gotta consider that". That guy is a fucking idiot too.





That makes conservatives, at most, powerful. No right, not wrong, not morally superior or inferior. Not even popular. One could correctly make the counter-argument that the vast majority of the actual voting population is non-conservative. And those people too have the same caveats.

Pop is completely right on one thing though: The hope he does well. All of them. You might not trust the guy (or guys), and disagree and whatever, but if it works out for America as a whole, regardless if you're team red or blue, then THAT's the ultimate fuck you. So all this knee jerking right now, from both sides, is just that. Proof will be in the pudding, as they say.

America's success as a country is also not inexorably linked to Trump's victories while in the White House. He could "fail", as in not getting a large percentage of his proposals passed and the country still does well in spite of that. He could fail and the country's economy bombs. He could succeed with his bill passages and the country's economy/infrastructure could fall apart. All of those are possible. Wishing Trump to fail in enacting legislation that aids in the discrimination of other people, the destruction of the planet, or furthers the gap between the rich and middle class/poor is not being unpatriotic and it's not wishing for the United States to fail.

[baseline bum]

Air Force Academy where they had rapes galore over the past 30 years. Yeah, what a proud Alma Mater for Pop. I was accepted to the USAF Academy but my father advise me not to go b/c you are required to do 8 years of service as oppose to 4 years if you just go through OTS. It was a wise choice as I got out of the OTS b/c I knew my wife couldn't handle to rigors of Military life as I was sent to be a US Intelligent Operative in the DIA.

Military Prep Schools are stricter than the USAF Academy if you didn't know. There is a reason they cost like 30k+ a year to attend. Pop just needs to shut the F up already and do his job. If he wants to get interview by ABC, CNN, etc. schedule an interview. But postgame and NBA interviews aren't a place to talk politics. He is a doing a fantastic job coaching the Spurs this year, stick with it, and stop being so butt hurt over something you can't control at this point.

Or Pop could just say what the fuck he wants. LOL conservatives who cry over PC acting like they have the right to not have people offend them.

[boutons_deux]

"Trump can't be bought."

:lol

You stupid fuck

Putin and his kleptocrats bought him, own him, compromised him, like a puppet on a string. i'm sure Putin has hours of Trash in Moscow with whores and coke.

[Trainwreck2100]

Well there was the time he bragged about sexually assaulting women.

I was actually ok with that one. Sometimes you just gotta grab the bitches by the pussy

[ElNono]

If the Holts told Pop to clarify his statement he'd be out the door, and he'd take the coaching staff with him.

Anybody that knows the Holts and how the Spurs operate as a family, wouldn't even have such expectation. There's plenty of regular households with varying political views, nobody is getting kicked out of the house (or shouldn't be) for holding an opposing view.

[Blue-Lightning]

True or false trump lied to the American people?

About what?

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Air Force Academy where they had rapes galore over the past 30 years. Yeah, what a proud Alma Mater for Pop. I was accepted to the USAF Academy but my father advise me not to go b/c you are required to do 8 years of service as oppose to 4 years if you just go through OTS. It was a wise choice as I got out of the OTS b/c I knew my wife couldn't handle to rigors of Military life as I was sent to be a US Intelligent Operative in the DIA.


Similar deal for me. Dad is a USAF vet and had a buddy who was willing to sponsor my USAFA application, but advised I go to his alma mater (A&M) instead. Damn glad I did--wife and I just left the service within the past year or so, mainly because she was in Intel and those 4 years burnt her out (and made it tough to try to start a family). I got med boarded so it was a moot point, anyways.

[Blue-Lightning]

I'm a conservative, voted for Trump, hated Obama, hated the Clintons even more......but, I am not going to stop being a lifelong Spurs fan, just cause a coach or player has different political views than I do. I will say this, I do not understand all the Trump bashing and blame. He wasn't even the President yet, and all the country's problems were being thrown at him by his haters.

I understand if you don't like him. He is still the President of the US and should at least be given an opportunity to show what he can do. Give him a year do try and get things done, and if he fails to deliver, then march, protest, call your representative or senator, and definitely go to the ballot box in 2020. Also, if you are going to march or protest, do it peacefully. You have no right to vandalize or destroy personal or public property during your demonstration.

As for all the Congressmen and women who did not go to the inauguration, I feel they should be reprimanded. I don't care who the President is, you have a duty to show respect to the office, as an elected official. I find their actions to be childish, immature, disrespectful, and classless.

Well said.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Well there was the time he bragged about sexually assaulting women.

Dude he did not say that. He said that he was so rich that Women would just let him grab their pussies IF he wanted to. IF IF IF. He NEVER said he did that. It was just a very vulgar way of saying women just throw themselves at him. Which I wouldn't be surprise, b/c the guy is extremely wealthy. Shit Trump even admitted he was having an affair to the press back in the 90's, divorce Ivanka, and married Marla. Trump's life has been an open book for 30 years. That is why NOT ONE SINGLE woman that accused him of assaulting him recently is going to court b/c he threatened to sue and they know they are lying. Trump probably gets off more to closing deals than actually having sex.

[Blue-Lightning]

A lion does not lose sleep over the opinion of sheep. Bye, sheep.

Might be some hungry lions if enough sheep change pasture.

[Trainwreck2100]

About what?

Did he or did he not lie to the American people?

[Blue-Lightning]

Pop's words verbatim "I hope he succeeds"

And I hope Pop ceases to cross other lines that are too extreme. I'd much rather he be reasonable as in this quote.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Or Pop could just say what the fuck he wants. LOL conservatives who cry over PC acting like they have the right to not have people offend them.

Meh, I just think it's silly for celebs to jump into the political lecturing ring, because inevitably you'll end up pissing off half of your supporters. I prefer the way Bill Belichick shuts down that line of questioning instead of playing around with it--he's not paid to be a political pundit.

And from what I understand, I'd probably agree with Bill's politics. Ijs.

[baseline bum]

Dude he did not say that. He said that he was so rich that Women would just let him grab their pussies IF he wanted to. IF IF IF. He NEVER said he did that. It was just a very vulgar way of saying women just throw themselves at him. Which I wouldn't be surprise, b/c the guy is extremely wealthy. Shit Trump even admitted he was having an affair to the press back in the 90's, divorce Ivanka, and married Marla. Trump's life has been an open book for 30 years. That is why NOT ONE SINGLE woman that accused him of assaulting him recently is going to court b/c he threatened to sue and they know they are lying. Trump probably gets off more to closing deals than actually having sex.

"Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

[ElNono]

America's success as a country is also not inexorably linked to Trump's victories while in the White House. He could "fail", as in not getting a large percentage of his proposals passed and the country still does well in spite of that. He could fail and the country's economy bombs. He could succeed with his bill passages and the country's economy/infrastructure could fall apart. All of those are possible. Wishing Trump to fail in enacting legislation that aids in the discrimination of other people, the destruction of the planet, or furthers the gap between the rich and middle class/poor is not being unpatriotic and it's not wishing for the United States to fail.

I'm not talking winners or losers. There's always that in power, tbh... with every government. Also, how everyone deems 'success' is fairly personal in a lot of ways.

Overall though, when the country was doing generally well, there was a lot more consensus and a lot less wedging. I personally think that's palpable in society.

As the unique Dave Chappelle said in his SNL monologue not that long ago, I'm going to give the guy a chance, hope he does well, and then time will speak for itself.

[Blue-Lightning]

There's nothing to "clarify". Just like there's nothing to "clarify" when the KKK speaks their mind, or anarchists or Madonna or Trump when he was a birther or anybody else. The right to speak our minds is possibly the strongest foundation of our freedoms.

There's social scorn, media/public condemnation, etc, but that's the extent of it. If that's not enough for you, and want to remove your support for the team, I don't think Pop loses sleep (nor does Holt) about a Tennessee fan turning his back over political views.

Actually "having" (aka forcing) somebody to go out there and say something they don't actually believe in under duress is pretty close to fascism, if not outright fascism.

These kind of fascist "solutions" stick out like a sore thumb every time, tbh... it's like a guy that goes "you gotta kill all those fucking ******s", he's a racist piece of shit, he's basically self-denouncing his racism. Just like those civil libertarian on the other end of the spectrum that go like "well, that kid that killed, chopped off his grandparents and then ate them, well... the poor kid didn't really have an education... His dad beat him up, so you gotta consider that". That guy is a fucking idiot too.





That makes conservatives, at most, powerful. No right, not wrong, not morally superior or inferior. Not even popular. One could correctly make the counter-argument that the vast majority of the actual voting population is non-conservative. And those people too have the same caveats.

Pop is completely right on one thing though: The hope he does well. All of them. You might not trust the guy (or guys), and disagree and whatever, but if it works out for America as a whole, regardless if you're team red or blue, then THAT's the ultimate fuck you. So all this knee jerking right now, from both sides, is just that. Proof will be in the pudding, as they say.

The only thing I disagree with you about is that I hope Pop does respect the office of the presidency, and I hope he clarifies as such. I don't need Pop to state beliefs he cannot support, but if he makes an argument about disrespecting the office then I can't abide by it whether it hurts the Spurs or not.

[alpha_HaZE]

Let's be honest, one way or another you are coming to ST back buddy or you are not leaving at all. So good grief.

Regarding Trump, I don't think that bombing Schools and Hospitals and weddings is OK, not for ANY reason.

[Blue-Lightning]

"Trump can't be bought."

:lol

You stupid fuck

Putin and his kleptocrats bought him, own him, compromised him, like a puppet on a string. i'm sure Putin has hours of Trash in Moscow with whores and coke.





Nice fact-less conspiracy theory.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Or Pop could just say what the fuck he wants. LOL conservatives who cry over PC acting like they have the right to not have people offend them.

Pop can say whatever he wants. But there is a TIME AND PLACE to do just that. I seriously think Pop is losing his mind really. I don't remember him saying one bad thing about Bush and he was worse than Trump, killing 100s of thousands of people on his orders. Him saying winning another championship is not his priority but society was, that says it all. Dude, go be an activist, I don't care. But right now, his priority should be winning titles as he is a HEAD COACH of an NBA team.

[Blue-Lightning]

Did he or did he not lie to the American people?

I don't know. Unless you give me some sort of clue as to what statements you're referring, I have no idea.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Anybody that knows the Holts and how the Spurs operate as a family, wouldn't even have such expectation. There's plenty of regular households with varying political views, nobody is getting kicked out of the house (or shouldn't be) for holding an opposing view.

That's the problem with the political discourse in general today--there is no actual discourse. People want to ensconce themselves in their own little blue or red echo chambers and anyone who opposes them in the slightest is LITERALLY THE DEVIL OMFG. It's stupid.

Too many people treat politics like a sports rivalry. Defend your side at all costs, and the other side is never right about anything under any circumstances. It's like Spurs/mavs or something. Insanity :lol

[baseline bum]

Meh, I just think it's silly for celebs to jump into the political lecturing ring, because inevitably you'll end up pissing off half of your supporters. I prefer the way Bill Belichick shuts down that line of questioning instead of playing around with it--he's not paid to be a political pundit.

And from what I understand, I'd probably agree with Bill's politics. Ijs.

I don't understand why conservatives think people should shut up about their political views. I thought free political debate is one of the cornerstones this country was supposed to have been built on. Should Pop act like he's in Nazi Germany or Cuba where you have to keep your beliefs to yourself?

[baseline bum]

That's the problem with the political discourse in general today--there is no actual discourse. People want to ensconce themselves in their own little blue or red echo chambers and anyone who opposes them in the slightest is LITERALLY THE DEVIL OMFG. It's stupid.

But that's pretty much what Trump ran on with the way he demonized the media for reporting on him.

[Brazil]

A trump supporter not fan of Parker... why am I not surprised :lol

[Blue-Lightning]

I don't understand why conservatives think people should shut up about their political views. I thought free political debate is one of the cornerstones this country was supposed to have been built on. Should Pop act like he's in Nazi Germany or Cuba where you have to keep your beliefs to yourself?

I don't know of anybody who has people should shut up except for the people throwing expletives at me. You're beating a strawman if you think conservatives are saying to stop discourse.

[Cry Havoc]

I don't understand why conservatives think people should shut up about their political views. I thought free political debate is one of the cornerstones this country was supposed to have been built on. Should Pop act like he's in Nazi Germany or Cuba where you have to keep your beliefs to yourself?

You see, it's only a problem when it's a celebrity who opposes their views. That's what rustles their jimmies. Not the first amendment. No, no, no, never that.

[baseline bum]

Pop can say whatever he wants. But there is a TIME AND PLACE to do just that. I seriously think Pop is losing his mind really. I don't remember him saying one bad thing about Bush and he was worse than Trump, killing 100s of thousands of people on his orders. Him saying winning another is not his priority but society was, that says it all. Dude, go be an activist, I don't care. But right now, his priority should be winning titles as he is a HEAD COACH of an NBA team.

Why? Was he diagramming a march down SW Military in a timeout last night or something?

[Trainwreck2100]

I don't know. Unless you give me some sort of clue as to what statements you're referring, I have no idea.

so you don't know whether or not Trump has lied, then how do you know that Pop is incorrect when he says "you can't trust a word out of his mouth"

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I don't understand why conservatives think people should shut up about their political views. I thought free political debate is one of the cornerstones this country was supposed to have been built on. Should Pop act like he's in Nazi Germany or Cuba where you have to keep your beliefs to yourself?

Pop can do whatever he wants. I'm saying it's not really business savvy in the business he's in--entertaining people, a large portion of whom will inevitably lean the opposite political direction. I never said people have to shut up about their political views. Pop is just in a position now where he has the professional capital to burn, thanks to his success.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

"Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

And yet not one single video of him doing this despite the 1,000s of balls and parties he has attended over the pat 30 years. He just fuckin tellin it like it is. Trump is a one woman man. When he was having an affair with Marla Maples, he wasn't even having sex with Ivanka. And in court, it was brought out that she use to hit him and throw silverware and plates at him b/c he never spent any time with her. The woman was bonkers.

Dude, most guys talk like this. I have seen ugly guys, dorks, nerds, etc. say worse. Most guys are just primitive animals when curbing their primal urges. Until Trump starts ordering prostitutes in the White House and getting head in the Oval Office, I don't think ANYONE who supported Bill Clinton has right to say a damn thing about him. Bunch of fuckin Hypocrites, actually than hypocrites.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

But that's pretty much what Trump ran on with the way he demonized the media for reporting on him.

He had a problem with the media misrepresenting him (in his eyes). He never said to halt the political discourse. Big difference there.

[baseline bum]

I don't know of anybody who has people should shut up except for the people throwing expletives at me. You're beating a strawman if you think conservatives are saying to stop discourse.

Conservatives in this thread are absolutely trying to stop discourse when they say people in the public eye should be ashamed to engage in it. Same crybaby crap happened here a few years ago when Pop said it was retarded to not have a public option in the ACA. Same thing happened when Manu said he was an atheist.

[ElNono]

The only thing I disagree with you about is that I hope Pop does respect the office of the presidency, and I hope he clarifies as such. I don't need Pop to state beliefs he cannot support, but if he makes an argument about disrespecting the office then I can't abide by it whether it hurts the Spurs or not.

You can't force somebody to respect anything. Period. You might lament it, publicly scorn him about it, jump in the segment of the media bandwagon that finds the comments disgusting, ignore it, but that's about it.

Respect is earned. He has his doubt that POTUS is fit to command the office he holds. That's his view, he wanted to express them. He also thinks Tony Parker should start... he's wrong sometimes... we just publicly scorn him and move on, tbh.

[ElNono]

That's the problem with the political discourse in general today--there is no actual discourse. People want to ensconce themselves in their own little blue or red echo chambers and anyone who opposes them in the slightest is LITERALLY THE DEVIL OMFG. It's stupid.

Too many people treat politics like a sports rivalry. Defend your side at all costs, and the other side is never right about anything under any circumstances. It's like Spurs/mavs or something. Insanity :lol

Pretty much. I didn't grow up in this country, so this whole red-blue rah rah is pretty amusing, tbh... :lol

[LoneStarState'sPride]

And yet not one single video of him doing this despite the 1,000s of balls and parties he has attended over the pat 30 years. He just fuckin tellin it like it is.

The man has lived his life in the public eye for decades, but only magically became the worst racist/sexist/xenophobe/bigot in the world as soon as he put an "R" next to his name. It's a little silly.

[baseline bum]

He had a problem with the media misrepresenting him (in his eyes). He never said to halt the political discourse. Big difference there.

He threatened to go after the media like he was Goebbels.

[baseline bum]

And yet not one single video of him doing this despite the 1,000s of balls and parties he has attended over the pat 30 years. He just fuckin tellin it like it is. Trump is a one woman man. When he was having an affair with Marla Maples, he wasn't even having sex with Ivanka. And in court, it was brought out that she use to hit him and throw silverware and plates at him b/c he never spent any time with her. The woman was bonkers.

Dude, most guys talk like this. I have seen ugly guys, dorks, nerds, etc. say worse. Most guys are just primitive animals when curbing their primal urges. Until Trump starts ordering prostitutes in the White House and getting head in the Oval Office, I don't think ANYONE who supported Bill Clinton has right to say a damn thing about him. Bunch of fuckin Hypocrites, actually than hypocrites.

I wouldn't have any problem with Trump inviting prostitutes to the white house. That's a consensual agreement. Walking up and just kissing women isn't.

[daslicer]

Pop can do whatever he wants. I'm saying it's not really business savvy in the business he's in--entertaining people, a large portion of whom will inevitably lean the opposite political direction. I never said people have to shut up about their political views. Pop is just in a position now where he has the professional capital to burn, thanks to his success.

The NBA has pretty much given up on the conservative base of America. The majority of the NBA fan base is liberal hence why Silver and NBA tries hard to market towards that base. Pop is actually not hurting himself business wise when you consider that.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Pretty much. I didn't grow up in this country, so this whole red-blue rah rah is pretty amusing, tbh... :lol

I'd be right there with ya if I weren't from here, tbh :lol

I'm used to folks close to me disagreeing with me (being black and a conservative, it kinda comes with the territory), but the past decade or so, it's gotten to the point where cordial conversation on the micro level between the sides is almost non-existent.

It's annoying because I genuinely enjoy a spirited debate. Just hard to come by these days.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Why? Was he diagramming a march down SW Military in a timeout last night or something?

No, because you live in a Military town where you are taught to respect whomever is in office. He is not setting a good example for his community. If he care so much about society, he would be more choice with his words and the time of his presentations. Like I said, if coaching isn't his passion no more, go be an activist. Problem with American society today is people don't have etiquette and propriety. Just anarchy.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I wouldn't have any problem with Trump inviting prostitutes to the white house. That's a consensual agreement. Walking up and just kissing women isn't.

And that says it all.

[RD2191]

The man has lived his life in the public eye for decades, but only magically became the worst racist/sexist/xenophobe/bigot in the world as soon as he put an "R" next to his name. It's a little silly.

That's bullshit. Trump has always been known as a piece of shit. His run to the white house just made it more transparent to the masses.

[baseline bum]

And that says it all.

What's wrong with prostitution?

[LoneStarState'sPride]

The NBA has pretty much given up on the conservative base of America. The majority of the NBA fan base is liberal hence why Silver and NBA tries hard to market towards that base. Pop is actually not hurting himself business wise when you consider that.

True. I was referring moreso to the supporters of his own team, but, yeah, the NBA as a whole is decidedly leftist.

Doesn't make a difference to me--I'm a fan of the game itself and civic pride spurs me to watch the Spurs. In general, though, if I were in his position, I just wouldn't even fuck with it, tbh. But Pop can do whatever he wants to do--that's his prerogative. If he runs for public office, I'll re-evaluate his positions then. Until then, just get us river parade #6, please :lol

[baseline bum]

Problem with American society today is people don't have etiquette and propriety.

Like our president? :lol

[RD2191]

This has nothing to do with conservative. This has to do with being a complete piece of shit when it comes to important social issues.

[Trainwreck2100]

And that says it all.

:lol Because Trump's never bought sex with his money

[LoneStarState'sPride]

That's bullshit. Trump has always been known as a piece of shit.

Or nah.

[RD2191]

Like our president? :lol

Grab em by the pussy..

[LoneStarState'sPride]

What's wrong with prostitution?

In my eyes, not a damn thing. Should be legalized across the damn board.

When it comes to sex, I'm pretty moderate/liberal, actually :lol

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Grab em by the pussy..

I also fuck bitches myself :lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

What's wrong with prostitution?

Go solicit someone right now right in front of a Police Officer, or better yet, one of these women marchers that you applaud Pop for standing up for and come back and tell everyone about your exploit. I am sure we all would love to hear the outcome and what others think of prostitution.

[baseline bum]

In my eyes, not a damn thing. Should be legalized across the damn board.

When it comes to sex, I'm pretty moderate/liberal, actually :lol

I agree. I know people like to demonize women for selling sex, but many of them are nice people.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

:lol Because Trump's never bought sex with his money

Of course he has but just not in context your thinking about.

[daslicer]

True. I was referring moreso to the supporters of his own team, but, yeah, the NBA as a whole is decidedly leftist.

Doesn't make a difference to me--I'm a fan of the game itself and civic pride spurs me to watch the Spurs. In general, though, if I were in his position, I just wouldn't even fuck with it, tbh. But Pop can do whatever he wants to do--that's his prerogative. If he runs for public office, I'll re-evaluate his positions then. Until then, just get us river parade #6, please :lol

I remember David Robinson being a huge Pro-Bush guy in '03 when it came to the Iraq War. Robinson condemned anybody who was against the war by saying they were unpatriotic for not supporting the president. I was one of those people who were anti-war and thought it was stupid of him to say that but I still had no problems rooting for the Spurs. I think some people don't realize that you can still root for your favorite team or athletes even if you disagree with them politically or just the way they live their lives.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I agree. I know people like to demonize women for selling sex, but many of them are nice people.

The people that demonize prostitution are the very ladies that Pop is supporting. Go watch interview of Nina Hartley on Oprah, 90% of the women are booing her and calling her trash. Yet I tell my wife, those same damn ladies should be thankful for these pornstars b/c many of them didn't get rape going out the past few weekends b/c most perverts are at home taken care of their business b/c of these very pornstars.

That is what I don't like. These feminist Nazi condemn these women, yet they supported a man who abused these very same women. Bunch of fuckin HYPOCRITES. And Pop supports them. GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baseline bum]

Go solicit someone right now right in front of a Police Officer, or better yet, one of these women marchers that you applaud Pop for standing up for and come back and tell everyone about your exploit. I am sure we all would love to hear the outcome and what others think of prostitution.

Lots of feminists are for legalized prostitution. I don't see your point. Ooh, what if trump smoked Cuban cigars in the white house? Go tell the customs guy you're bringing them into the country and see how that goes too.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I agree. I know people like to demonize women for selling sex, but many of them are nice people.

I don't have a problem at all with a woman (or man) putting a price tag on consenting relations. Hell, that's what the majority of dates are, anyways, when you stop and think about it :lol

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I remember David Robinson being a huge Pro-Bush guy in '03 when it came to the Iraq War. Robinson condemned anybody who was against the war by saying they were unpatriotic for not supporting the president. I was one of those people who were anti-war and thought it was stupid of him to say that but I still had no problems rooting for the Spurs. I think some people don't realize that you can still root for your favorite team or athletes even if you disagree with them politically or just the way they live their lives.

That's what it comes down to. I don't need the entertainers I watch to be lockstep with me politically. That's not why I watch them in the first place :lol

[dbestpro]

Pop gives a reason for half of the country to care less about the NBA.

[baseline bum]

I remember David Robinson being a huge Pro-Bush guy in '03 when it came to the Iraq War. Robinson condemned anybody who was against the war by saying they were unpatriotic for not supporting the president. I was one of those people who were anti-war and thought it was stupid of him to say that but I still had no problems rooting for the Spurs. I think some people don't realize that you can still root for your favorite team or athletes even if you disagree with them politically or just the way they live their lives.

Yeah I thought that was a ridiculous thing to say, but I always have been a huge David Robinson fan. I mean shit, I love the Frazier show even though Kelsey Grammer is pretty conservative. Clint Eastwood speaking to an empty chair at the RNC in 2012 didn't make me like Dirty Harry, The Good, Bad, and the Ugly, Unforgiven, or Gran Torino any less. I'd still go see anything with him in it. I'm never going to stop loving Die Hard movies because Bruce Willis is Republican.

[K...]

So really, Tony Parker was justified in fucking all those players wives. I'm glad we got to this point

[baseline bum]

Pop gives a reason for half of the country to care less about the NBA.

Half minus 2% tbh

[K...]

40% and falling




Pop gives a reason for half of the country to care less about the NBA.

[dbestpro]

40% and falling

Trying to follow those fake news polls again, I see.

[baseline bum]

Trying to follow those fake news polls again, I see.

Half minus 2% tbh

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Lots of feminists are for legalized prostitution. I don't see your point. Ooh, what if trump smoked Cuban cigars in the white house? Go tell the customs guy you're bringing them into the country and see how that goes too.

No they're not. The LARGE majority are against it. I know a lot of feminists and believe me, they would kick you in the nuts if you try to solicit them. Most of these women think men are pigs for the most part, and yes, that is true. Nina Hartley is one of those feminist you speak of and she was BOOED by mostly all the feminist in attendance. I have watched quite of few Nina Hartley interviews on Youtube as I find she is an intellectual person and I was curious why a woman of her intelligence would chose a career in porn. And she has stated many times that the MAJORITY of women don't agree with her VIEWS. Dude, most feminist are bitches, plain and simple. I wish it wasn't the case, but really, it is the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_on_prostitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography

[baseline bum]

Crofl at Trump being Conservative or Republican

I don't think Trump is conservative. He is a right wing nationalist, like Hitler. I don't know why conservatives love him so much now when they hated him until November 9th.

[baseline bum]

No there not. The LARGE majority are against it. I know a lot of feminists and believe me, they would kick you in the nuts if you try to solicit them. Most of these women think men are pigs for the most part, and yes, that is true. Nina Hartley is one of those feminist you speak of and she was BOOED by mostly all the feminist in attendance. I have watched quite of few Nina Hartley interviews on Youtube as I find she is an intellectual person and I was curious why a woman of her intelligence would chose a career in porn. And she has stated many times that the MAJORITY of women don't agree with her VIEWS. Dude, most feminist are bitches, plain and simple. I wish it wasn't the case, but really, it is the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_on_prostitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist_views_of_pornography

Why would I go solicit some random woman for sex for money? That doesn't make any sense.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Why would I go solicit some random woman for sex for money? That doesn't make any sense.

To test your theory that Feminist our Pro Prostitution. If that is the case, you will come back with you balls unscathed and satisfied.

[baseline bum]

To test you theory that Feminist of Pro Prostitution. If that is the case, you will come back with you balls unscathed and satisfied.

So under your system of logic being for prostitution being legalized would make them prostitutes?

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

So under your system of logic being for prostitution being legalized would make them prostitutes?

No, but they wouldn't kick you in the balls for it and if your lucky they just might accept. When somebody is Pro something, 9 out of 10 times means they wouldn't mind experimenting or threading those waters themselves.

[DeadlyDynasty]

crofl is this the first time cutewizard broke character?

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I never hated Trump.

He's not "like Hitler" (that's such a lame/hyperbolic leftist go-to :lol )

He's also not a true conservative.

Which makes the left's meltdown over him even more humorous to me, tbh.

[baseline bum]

No, but they wouldn't kick you in the balls for it and if your lucky they just might accept. When somebody is Pro something, 9 out of 10 times means they wouldn't mind experimenting or threading those waters themselves.

So 52% of men in this country are ok with gay marriage. That means what, 47% of the guys in this country want to fuck men?

[baseline bum]

I never hated Trump.

He's not "like Hitler" (that's such a lame/hyperbolic leftist go-to :lol )

He's also not a true conservative.

Which makes the left's meltdown over him even more humorous to me, tbh.

I didn't say he was sending Muslims and Mexicans to gas chambers, but he's an angry nationalist with thin skin who scapegoats minorities and threatens the press, like Hitler.

[vander]

Wake up, you are being played by the illuminati on both sides......

Already your denver international airport stares you in the eye!

what about the NBA championship, is it determined by the Illuminati?

also, good for OP. Spurs and NBA in general doesn't deserve your money. NBA is just another way that the rich and Illuminati take money from the poor amiright?

[dav4463]

I voted for Trump. He was the only wise political choice, everyone who says otherwise tends to let their emotions overwhelm logic. Pop's a basketball coach, his politics don't mean anything to me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if it comes across as idiotic.

Finally a voice of reason.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Wanting to close immigration loopholes and enforce laws already on the books isn't scapegoating minorities. Hell, I AM a minority (obviously :lol ).

I have no problem with him wanting America to be #1. That's what the fucking president should be doing anyways. Can (and will) easily do so without committing mass genocide. So spare me the Hitler bs. Too over-the-top, I'm sorry bruh.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

So 52% of men in this country are ok with gay marriage. That means what, 47% of the guys in this country want to fuck men?

No, but they wouldn't kick you in the nuts or punch your lights out if you hit on them. I am against Gay marriages and had numerous Gay guys here in Atlanta hit on me, pinch me, etc. and I didn't punch one of them. WHY, because I don't have the same mentality as these feminist nazi that Pop is supporting, that is why. So, do that. Next time there is a women's march, go out there yourself and ask if they support prostitution and if you have the courage, solicit. They will more then likely call you a pig or a pervert and tell to get the fuck out of there.

That's the difference.

[baseline bum]

No, but they wouldn't kick you in the nuts or punch your lights out if you hit on them. I am against Gay marriages and had numerous Gay guys here in Atlanta hit on me, pinch me, etc. and I didn't punch one of them. WHY, because I don't have the same mentality as these feminist nazi that Pop is supporting, that is why. So, do that. Next time there is a women's march, go out there yourself and ask if they support prostitution and if you have the courage, solicit. They will more then likely call you a pig or a pervert and tell to get the fuck out of there.

That's the difference.

Why would I solicit a woman who isn't a prostitute?

[baseline bum]

Why would there be an expectation of success soliciting a woman who isn't a prostitute into sex for money?

[ElNono]

I don't get the "public figure disrespecting the office of the POTUS" angle either, tbh...

Wasn't the current POTUS, prior to his political career and during his entertainer, public figure phase of his life, speaking widely about the sitting president and politics in general?

And he wasn't alone, there has been a shitload of public figures making speeches in all sorts of places about the prez and politics overall...

But now this is an issue? :lol

And it goes even before Barry, tbh... A lot of people called dubya illegitimate prior to 9/11, due to losing the popular vote too.

[baseline bum]

No, but they wouldn't kick you in the nuts or punch your lights out if you hit on them. I am against Gay marriages and had numerous Gay guys here in Atlanta hit on me, pinch me, etc. and I didn't punch one of them. WHY, because I don't have the same mentality as these feminist nazi that Pop is supporting, that is why. So, do that. Next time there is a women's march, go out there yourself and ask if they support prostitution and if you have the courage, solicit. They will more then likely call you a pig or a pervert and tell to get the fuck out of there.

That's the difference.

Also I don't see anything wrong with punching a guy who pinched me. That shit's assault and I can claim self defense. Just like Trump going up and kissing women and grabbing them by the pussy is assault.

[weebo]

No, but they wouldn't kick you in the nuts or punch your lights out if you hit on them. I am against Gay marriages and had numerous Gay guys here in Atlanta hit on me, pinch me, etc. and I didn't punch one of them. WHY, because I don't have the same mentality as these feminist nazi that Pop is supporting, that is why. So, do that. Next time there is a women's march, go out there yourself and ask if they support prostitution and if you have the courage, solicit. They will more then likely call you a pig or a pervert and tell to get the fuck out of there.

That's the difference.


Wut? :lol

[LoneStarState'sPride]

TBH I had a problem with Trump going in on Barry McWonderbama, too. Not a fan of smear politics.

Especially when the rhetoric is against a sitting POTUS. Too easy/lazy.

Was never an Obama fan, but damn right I respected him and his office. Even got the chance to shake his hand once. It was an honor. He was eventually my commander-in-chief. He gave the order to go kill something or go die somewhere, that was my duty, and there's gravitas that comes with that.

Just too easy to take potshots instead of offering solutions, tbh.

[baseline bum]

I don't get the "public figure disrespecting the office of the POTUS" angle either, tbh...

Wasn't the current POTUS, prior to his political career and during his entertainer, public figure phase of his life, speaking widely about the sitting president and politics in general?

And he wasn't alone, there has been a shitload of public figures making speeches in all sorts of places about the prez and politics overall...

But now this is an issue? :lol

And it goes even before Barry, tbh... A lot of people called dubya illegitimate prior to 9/11, due to losing the popular vote too.

I think people were calling Bush illegitimate mostly because of the Florida recount being called off. I think the illegitimate talk is stupid here, Trump clearly won all his states. I suspect most of the illegitimate talk comes from the alleged russian hacking.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Wut? :lol
This:lmao

[ElNono]

TBH I had a problem with Trump going in on Barry McWonderbama, too. Not a fan of smear politics.

Especially when the rhetoric is against a sitting POTUS. Too easy/lazy.

Was never an Obama fan, but damn right I respected him and his office. Even got the chance to shake his hand once. It was an honor. He was eventually my commander-in-chief. He gave the order to go kill something or go die somewhere, that was my duty, and there's gravitas that comes with that.

Just too easy to take potshots instead of offering solutions, tbh.

I was 20 feet away from the man himself in DC once... it's surreal, even if you don't like him or his policies.


I think people were calling Bush illegitimate mostly because of the Florida recount being called off. I think the illegitimate talk is stupid here, Trump clearly won all his states. I suspect most of the illegitimate talk comes from the alleged russian hacking.

It's all butthurt, if you ask me. But Pop didn't call him illegitimate either, to be fair. Other people sure did though.

[Trainwreck2100]

I think people were calling Bush illegitimate mostly because of the Florida recount being called off. I think the illegitimate talk is stupid here, Trump clearly won all his states. I suspect most of the illegitimate talk comes from the alleged russian hacking.

Sore losers who just can't fathom that their candidate was just as shit as the candidate that eventually won

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I was 20 feet away from the man himself in DC once... it's surreal, even if you don't like him or his policies.

The man can hold a room. Excellent public speaker. He came to my campus since the SecDef at the time was the former president of my school. Obama has charisma for days. No denying that. Actually pissed me off even more that the most the GOP could offer as "opposition" was stale McCain and bland Romney :lol

[baseline bum]

The man can hold a room. Excellent public speaker. He came to my campus since the SecDef at the time was the former president of my school. Obama has charisma for days. No denying that. Actually pissed me off even more that the most the GOP could offer as "opposition" was stale McCain and bland Romney :lol

I think Romney would have won in 2012 if it wasn't for Ryan and his medicare privatization crap. Obama's numbers were in the shitter back then. Trump was smart enough to not run on that but I won't be surprised if he goes along with Ryan. The McCain nomination made sense since the GOP had no hope whatsoever of winning in 2008 coming off Bush's reign of terror.

[ElNono]

The man can hold a room. Excellent public speaker. He came to my campus since the SecDef at the time was the former president of my school. Obama has charisma for days. No denying that. Actually pissed me off even more that the most the GOP could offer as "opposition" was stale McCain and bland Romney :lol

Took my folks to visit DC, we were staying at a hotel right next to FEMA, and the motorcade went through a couple times. The whole thing was surreal. Sudden street closing, ambulances, choppers, the two equal looking limos, the suburban with the back door open with the guy sitting holding a machine gun...

It was like the main attraction at an amusement park :lol

[spurraider21]

And yet not one single video of him doing this despite the 1,000s of balls and parties he has attended over the pat 30 years. He just fuckin tellin it like it is. Trump is a one woman man. When he was having an affair with Marla Maples, he wasn't even having sex with Ivanka. And in court, it was brought out that she use to hit him and throw silverware and plates at him b/c he never spent any time with her. The woman was bonkers.

Dude, most guys talk like this. I have seen ugly guys, dorks, nerds, etc. say worse. Most guys are just primitive animals when curbing their primal urges. Until Trump starts ordering prostitutes in the White House and getting head in the Oval Office, I don't think ANYONE who supported Bill Clinton has right to say a damn thing about him. Bunch of fuckin Hypocrites, actually than hypocrites.i'm really glad he wasn't fucking his daughter tbh

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I think Romney would have won in 2012 if it wasn't for Ryan and his medicare privatization crap. Obama's numbers were in the shitter back then. Trump was smart enough to not run on that but I won't be surprised if he goes along with Ryan. The McCain nomination made sense since the GOP had no hope whatsoever of winning in 2008 coming off Bush's reign of terror.

I think Condi Rice would have been the smart pick in 2012, but she's smart enough to not run :lol

Tbh no matter what the candidates do, it's hard to win a third term in a row. Political pendulum naturally swings back and forth, and there's a lot that can go wrong in 8 years to sour folks who originally supported you.

Trump timed it right. Hillary timed it wrong (she should have been the pick in '08, but Obama had momentum and the dems wisely rode the hot hand).

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Took my folks to visit DC, we were staying at a hotel right next to FEMA, and the motorcade went through a couple times. The whole thing was surreal. Sudden street closing, ambulances, choppers, the two equal looking limos, the suburban with the back door open with the guy sitting holding a machine gun...

It was like the main attraction at an amusement park :lol

Damn that's crazy :lol Perfect description, too. For mine, everyone knew the SecDef was coming, but no one knew for sure about the POTUS (guess they were trying to keep it hush-hush for whatever reason).

Cool experience. Will never forget it.

Speaking of D.C., I need to take my wife to visit. She's never been. I lived there when I was a kid when my dad was at the Pentagon. That was back in the mid 90s, though.

[baseline bum]

Damn that's crazy :lol Perfect description, too. For mine, everyone knew the SecDef was coming, but no one knew for sure about the POTUS (guess they were trying to keep it hush-hush for whatever reason).

Cool experience. Will never forget it.

Speaking of D.C., I need to take my wife to visit. She's never been. I lived there when I was a kid when my dad was at the Pentagon. That was back in the mid 90s, though.

The Smithsonian Air & Space Museum is reason enough man. :lol

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I hate Poop but still love the team. Holt is a Republican.

[baseline bum]

i'm really glad he wasn't fucking his daughter tbh

:rollin

[baseline bum]

I hate Poop but still love the team. Holt is a Republican.

I'm a big Holt fan too. He's easily the best owner the team ever had (with Red McCombs being the worst).

[ElNono]

Damn that's crazy :lol Perfect description, too. For mine, everyone knew the SecDef was coming, but no one knew for sure about the POTUS (guess they were trying to keep it hush-hush for whatever reason).

Cool experience. Will never forget it.

Speaking of D.C., I need to take my wife to visit. She's never been. I lived there when I was a kid when my dad was at the Pentagon. That was back in the mid 90s, though.


The Smithsonian Air & Space Museum is reason enough man. :lol

No doubt. The National Mall is amazing. Heck, just take one of those open top buses that take you around the city. They make stops everywhere, and you can hop right back. We visited Arlington too, the whole thing was great.

Such a great city, sucks it's full of crooks, lol.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

The Smithsonian Air & Space Museum is reason enough man. :lol

Hell yeah bruh. All the Smithsonians are great but the A&S one is fucking incredible.

Really enjoyed the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials, and the Washington monument, of course. So much goddamn history all over the place--always worth the trip.

Probably go in a couple of years after my kid does a little growing up.

[baseline bum]

Hell yeah bruh. All the Smithsonians are great but the A&S one is fucking incredible.

Really enjoyed the Lincoln and Jefferson memorials, and the Washington monument, of course. So much goddamn history all over the place--always worth the trip.

Probably go in a couple of years after my kid does a little growing up.

If you're ever out in San Diego, you gotta check their air & space museum too. They have a freaking A-12 (one of the early versions of the SR-71 Blackbird) in a climbing pose right there at the entrance. Last time I was there they had this great exhibit of WWI planes that I had never seen anything like before, but that was a one time thing. Lots of cool planes on the nearby aircraft carrier you can go on and in too (I forget which it is).

[Sec24Row7]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2u5zOBWEAA23He.jpg

Hillary's Inauguration Crowd.

[spurraider21]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2u5zOBWEAA23He.jpg

Hillary's Inauguration Crowd.
:rollin

[LaMarcus Bryant]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2u5zOBWEAA23He.jpg

Hillary's Inauguration Crowd.

This guy also used to suck Clandestino's cock in the political forum for 7 straight years.

[sdsucwsl]

Someone, please delete these political threads.

[Aztecfan03]

It's "routing".

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/root



No, I'm going to stay and respond to posts here. Then I'll leave or return when I wish. And you'll use name calling (aka ad hominem) because you've been taught that is sufficient. However, calling others names shows a lack of class and, often, intellect. You might want to change your strategy.


root3




[root or, sometimes, roo t]
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[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

i'm really glad he wasn't fucking his daughter tbh

I meant Ivana. But the way people talk around here, they probably would be down with that. Craster from GOT is probably their Hero.

[Sec24Row7]

This guy also used to suck Clandestino's cock in the political forum for 7 straight years.

Who?

[vander]

so who moved this to the political forum? seems a thin-skinned thing to do.

[Aztecfan03]

So are we back where we were under Bush where every time you said the president sucked it's really because you hate America?

You do realize that anytime anyone disagreed with any little thing Obama did they were called racist, don't you?

[Aztecfan03]

If you're ever out in San Diego, you gotta check their air & space museum too. They have a freaking A-12 (one of the early versions of the SR-71 Blackbird) in a climbing pose right there at the entrance. Last time I was there they had this great exhibit of WWI planes that I had never seen anything like before, but that was a one time thing. Lots of cool planes on the nearby aircraft carrier you can go on and in too (I forget which it is).

The March Field Air Museum isn't too far away either in riverside county. Used to go there all the time on the way back from Big Bear. Loved seeing the SR-71 there.

[baseline bum]

The March Field Air Museum isn't too far away either in riverside county. Used to go there all the time on the way back from Big Bear. Loved seeing the SR-71 there.

Wow, I gotta see that sometime, seeing they have a B-29. I have never seen one in person, closest I ever got was making a Hasegawa model of one. :lol

[rmt]

Trump being president is actually a great thing for the Spurs from a basketball perspective, tbh..

Pop is going to be coaching with passion we haven't seen since 2014 IMO..the thought of the Spurs winning the title and Pop snubbing Trump's White House invitation probably gets him harder than he's been in 30 years, tbh:lol

That'd be a great protest from Pop's POV but not for the scrubs/first timers/even stars like Lee, LMA who would miss the experience.

[Ed Lover]

Hey OP, your vagina is bleeding. Might wanna sop it up with something, otherwise the snail trail may betray the location of your safe space.

[Ed Lover]

I was actually ok with that one. Sometimes you just gotta grab the bitches by the pussy

I prefer a good leg sweep, but that's just me

[benfti]

I've been a Spurs fan since 2002, purchased their stuff, went to games, followed them closely. I've got a Spurs tag on my vehicle, and I live in Tennessee where that's not common.

I'm done with the Spurs.

If Popovich is going to publicly berate the president of the United States and speak gloriously of the women wearing "pussy" hats and cheering Madonna as she talks about thinking of physically destroying the White House, I'm out. Not watching another Spurs game. I wanted to enjoy fundamental basketball, not see the president I voted to clean up crony elitists selling out the middle class be ridiculed in ways that nobody would ever say about Obama. When he won, none of this stuff happened... we might not have liked what he was doing, but we respected democracy and the office.

It was a fun decade routing for my favorite team. Watching Manu and Timmy (was never a Parker fan) was a real treat.

Over and out,

- BL

cool, fuck off then you retarded bogan.

[cutewizard]

Hey cutewizard -- get help


:toast

lol

[Blue-Lightning]

Hey OP, your vagina is bleeding. Might wanna sop it up with something, otherwise the snail trail may betray the location of your safe space.

Thanks for a morning dose of sexism, misogynism, and threat! =D Glad to see the intellectual lefties are out and about.

[Adam Lambert]

so op is

- trump fan
- super sensitive
- tennessean
- not a fan of parker
- bailing on the team just as it's being taken over by a dark-skinned black guy with cornrows

is any of this unsuprising?

[Blue-Lightning]

so op is

- trump fan
- super sensitive
- tennessean
- not a fan of parker
- bailing on the team just as it's being taken over by a dark-skinned black guy with cornrows

is any of this unsuprising?

You got 2 of them right... and insinuating racism where none is present demeans the significance of real racism. Leonard is an awesome player and seems to be an awesome individual.

*Correct 2 - Tennesseean, not a fan of Parker

[Trainwreck2100]

I prefer a good leg sweep, but that's just me

Maybe some kinda leg sweep grab combo tbqh

[CavsSuperFan]

Go easy on Coach Pop…Most of you will never know how difficult it is for an ugly guy to get some trim…We have to do what we have to do… :lol

[The Gemini Method]

So, this whole thread, was based on the OP being pretty much a soft, whiny, complainer that will quit his fandom because his coach shares different political views on him. That was a bitchfest of epic proportions.

[Cry Havoc]

So, this whole thread, was based on the OP being pretty much a soft, whiny, complainer that will quit his fandom because his coach shares different political views on him. That was a bitchfest of epic proportions.

Attention seeking (also called drawing attention or garnering attention) is behaving in a way which is in pursuit of attention from others. The attention they receive gives them a good feeling and boosts their self-esteem and self-worth.[citation needed] Where such behaviour is excessive and inappropriate, the term is often used pejoratively in regard to children's behaviour in front of peers or to negative domestic interactions.

Enjoying the attention of others is socially acceptable in some situations.[1] In some instances, however, the need for attention can lead to new difficulties and may highlight underlying, preexisting ones. However, as a tactical method, it is often used in combat, theatre (upstaging) and it is fundamental to marketing. One strategy used to counter various types of attention-seeking behaviour is planned ignoring.

[Biggems]

2,900,000 marched and you can count on one hand the number of things that resulted in damage, all from one small group of people wearing black jumpsuits.

It's fucking absurd how transparent your narrative is. Keep trying to justify your viewpoints.

So you condone and accept even the smallest amount of violence or vandalism, cause I do not.

[Cry Havoc]

So you condone and accept even the smallest amount of violence or vandalism, cause I do not.

No, but if you want to play the strawman game, it's going to be a waste of your time.

[FromWayDowntown]

So, this whole thread, was based on the OP being pretty much a soft, whiny, complainer that will quit his fandom because his coach shares different political views on him. That was a bitchfest of epic proportions.

And, apparently, not actually leaving.

[Blue-Lightning]

And, apparently, not actually leaving.

You'll note that I said I'm not supporting the Spurs anymore while this sort of thing is tolerated... I never said I'm leaving the forum, though after a few days it's likely I'll be gone for a significant time.

[Fabbs]

I'm not watching anymore Spurs games or purchasing their merchandise (and I'm not the only one out there). But I am staying in this thread so those of you who think an emoji is a point can't pretend your intellectual wee-wees are bigger than a gnat.
Rack it. :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

You'll note that I said I'm not supporting the Spurs anymore while this sort of thing is tolerated... I never said I'm leaving the forum, though after a few days it's likely I'll be gone for a significant time.

Yes, tolerating free speech and thought in a republic like ours is really beyond the pale. Who would ever tolerate such a thing! And from a military veteran, no less!

In any event, I'm sure you'll be missed when you've actually gone.

[Blue-Lightning]

Yes, tolerating free speech and thought in a republic like ours is really beyond the pale. Who would ever tolerate such a thing! And from a military veteran, no less!

In any event, I'm sure you'll be missed when you've actually gone.

Tolerating and monetary support are two different things. I.e. I respect the right of others to believe in astrology, but I do not support it monetarily. Same thing here.

[Splits]

The Sports World Continues To Roast Donald Trump's Liars (http://deadspin.com/the-sports-world-continues-to-roast-donald-trumps-liars-1791565131)


Warriors head coach Steve Kerr’s joke at the expense of White House press secretary Sean Spicer (http://deadspin.com/steve-kerr-burned-sean-spicer-1791510276) and the Trump administration’s embrace of “alternative facts” seems to have inspired others to get in on the roast. The sports people are crackin’ jokes and we are loving it.


Gregg Popovich already gave us an anti-Trump speech (http://deadspin.com/gregg-popovich-expresses-support-for-the-womens-march-1791476992) this week, so you know he brought it (via the New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/spurs-coach-gregg-popovich-alternative-fact-joke-article-1.2953843)):

“Kawhi (Leonard) is out with an injury that’s not really an injury, but hopefully it will heal quickly,” Popovich said, before jokingly adding, “That’s a figurative statement. It sounds like some of the things that are going on politically in the world. I apologize. I just gave an alternative fact (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-press-secretary-upends-tradition-briefing-article-1.2953595). I shouldn’t have done that. But it wasn’t a lie, so don’t try to pin that on me. I’m tired of you guys pinning that on me.”


Ha! Got ‘em.

How about you, Brad Stevens, you want in on this?
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Hell yeah, man.

Uh oh, here comes Tennessee basketball:
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And here’s one from Saturday’s game between the Stars and Capitals:
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Solid burns, everyone. Please keep it up.


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I'll boil it down for ya, Splits:::

Trump: 1

Splits: 0

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[FromWayDowntown]

Tolerating and monetary support are two different things. I.e. I respect the right of others to believe in astrology, but I do not support it monetarily. Same thing here.

You suggested that the Spurs were wrong for tolerating Pop's viewpoint ("I said I'm not supporting the Spurs anymore while this sort of thing is tolerated").

You're not providing monetary support - you say - because Pop said something you don't like. Fine. But you're suggesting that, unlike you and your "tolerant" ways, the Spurs shouldn't even tolerate Pop expressing a viewpoint that you disagree with. Which is it? Do you think his employer shouldn't let him talk at all because you don't like his viewpoint or do you think he should be allowed to talk and people like you, who allow politics to get in the way of enjoying things in life, should be allowed to vote with your pocketbooks?

For what it's worth, I used to do precisely what you're doing -- I hated anyone who disagreed with me politically and refused to partake in things (like music or movies) in which those who disagreed with me had any influence. I can tell you that: (1) it's virtually impossible to live up to the boycott; and (2) the boycott itself is only a form of self-deprivation that creates no change. And given the NBA's decade-long, $24 billion media rights agreement, I'll reserve my optimism for your sort of boycott having any real impact on anyone.

Edited to add: The choice is yours, obviously, and I offer my tale as simply an anecdotal advisory. But my unsolicited suggestion to anyone is: enjoy the things that make you happy and don't let politics cloud the happiness those things bring to you.

[baseline bum]

But my unsolicited suggestion to anyone is: enjoy the things that make you happy and don't let politics cloud the happiness those things bring to you.

Sounds like what makes him happy is expressing outrage when people disagree with his politics tbh. It's pretty much all he ever posts at spurstalk. :lol

[spurs1990]

And that's why I hope that the Holts will have Pop "clarify" his statements. I can't support any groups that promote potentially dangerous views of the POTUS, whether the office is held by an R, a D, or an I. I would love to return to supporting the Spurs down the road, but I can't do it as long as Popovich is making statements in which he has to explain why it's okay not to respect the presidency.

You may be giving too much credit to Popovich and his affect/influence on matters outside of sports, or rather NBA basketball.

I say keep watching dem Spurs and anytime you feel agitated for some political slight, just remember Nov 8.
If that day wasn't enough to carry you through politically for years, nothing will.

(As an aside, I can't think of a more neutral organization on any topic than the Spurs these last two decades)

[Blue-Lightning]

You suggested that the Spurs were wrong for tolerating Pop's viewpoint ("I said I'm not supporting the Spurs anymore while this sort of thing is tolerated").

You're not providing monetary support - you say - because Pop said something you don't like. Fine. But you're suggesting that, unlike you and your "tolerant" ways, the Spurs shouldn't even tolerate Pop expressing a viewpoint that you disagree with. Which is it? Do you think his employer shouldn't let him talk at all because you don't like his viewpoint or do you think he should be allowed to talk and people like you, who allow politics to get in the way of enjoying things in life, should be allowed to vote with your pocketbooks?

For what it's worth, I used to do precisely what you're doing -- I hated anyone who disagreed with me politically and refused to partake in things (like music or movies) in which those who disagreed with me had any influence. I can tell you that: (1) it's virtually impossible to live up to the boycott; and (2) the boycott itself is only a form of self-deprivation that creates no change. And given the NBA's decade-long, $24 billion media rights agreement, I'll reserve my optimism for your sort of boycott having any real impact on anyone.

Edited to add: The choice is yours, obviously, and I offer my tale as simply an anecdotal advisory. But my unsolicited suggestion to anyone is: enjoy the things that make you happy and don't let politics cloud the happiness those things bring to you.

Pop is free to have political views and express them, but I draw the line and am no longer supportive of statements which demonize or demean the office of the presidency, even if Pop tries to give logic to the endeavor. Of course, we tolerate all free speech, but we don't have to support all free speech. And we didn't once agree -- for me, the expressed belief has be egregious before I consider rescinding support of a product. Manu is an atheist and I'm a deist, yet it has no effect on my admiration whatsoever. I think when comments are made though that I consider dangerous, that's when I re-evaluate my support.

[Blue-Lightning]

You may be giving too much credit to Popovich and his affect/influence on matters outside of sports, or rather NBA basketball.

I say keep watching dem Spurs and anytime you feel agitated for some political slight, just remember Nov 8.
If that day wasn't enough to carry you through politically for years, nothing will.

(As an aside, I can't think of a more neutral organization on any topic than the Spurs these last two decades)

I wish they'd go back to being neutral. Or be political and just not give a thesis on situations in which the office of the presidency can be treated with disrespect.

[DMC]

They were never neutral. If you give someone a platform to speak their mind, they will. Pop doesn't rely on endorsements so he's not concerned about how the Twitterverse takes his viewpoint. Cool thing about Pop is he does what he does because its in him to do it, not because he's calculated that it will enhance his public persona.

[baseline bum]

Pop is free to have political views and express them, but I draw the line and am no longer supportive of statements which demonize or demean the office of the presidency, even if Pop tries to give logic to the endeavor. Of course, we tolerate all free speech, but we don't have to support all free speech. And we didn't once agree -- for me, the expressed belief has be egregious before I consider rescinding support of a product. Manu is an atheist and I'm a deist, yet it has no effect on my admiration whatsoever. I think when comments are made though that I consider dangerous, that's when I re-evaluate my support.

So what do you think of Trump claiming he actually won the popular vote? Or saying Ted Cruz's dad aided in the assassination of JFK? That's someone whose speech we can trust? It's way more dangerous to treat political officials as people who can't be fairly criticized because of some bullshit idea of respect for the office, which is what you're arguing.

[Mark Celibate]

I've been a Spurs fan since 2002, purchased their stuff, went to games, followed them closely. I've got a Spurs tag on my vehicle, and I live in Tennessee where that's not common.

I'm done with the Spurs.

If Popovich is going to publicly berate the president of the United States and speak gloriously of the women wearing "pussy" hats and cheering Madonna as she talks about thinking of physically destroying the White House, I'm out. Not watching another Spurs game. I wanted to enjoy fundamental basketball, not see the president I voted to clean up crony elitists selling out the middle class be ridiculed in ways that nobody would ever say about Obama. When he won, none of this stuff happened... we might not have liked what he was doing, but we respected democracy and the office.

It was a fun decade routing for my favorite team. Watching Manu and Timmy (was never a Parker fan) was a real treat.

Over and out,

- BL

American politics are cringy puerile bullshit.

All this exuberant attention whoring is so uniquely American. Most Americans I've talked to have this odd self-centered attitude. Very poor conversationalist. Bad at listening and prone to seguing into talking about themselves in the middle of a conversation.

[spurs1990]

So what do you think of Trump claiming he actually won the popular vote? Or saying Ted Cruz's dad aided in the assassination of JFK? That's someone whose speech we can trust? It's way more dangerous to treat political officials as people who can't be fairly criticized because of some bullshit idea of respect for the office, which is what you're arguing.

Those are fair criticisms, and Donald has a shitload more of them. But this is a guy who's never held political office, so his life history is chalk full of events we can all point to and laugh at.

OTOH look at the alternatives - Clinton, Obama, Bush, Bill....all of them made tremendous lies or had questionable policies throughout their political careers.


Bill and his ridiculous womanizing (while in office!), lying under oath about the Lewinsky affair.
Bush leading us to war with a nation that had ZERO to do with the 9/11 operation, creating a pathway to the current Islamic state.
Obama winning a noble peace prize a month into his presidency, and proceeding to drone the shit out of every Arab country you can name.


Btw, Barack also ran against Clinton on the platform of NO universal healthcare - he then implements that as his signature policy. And don't forget about his politically expedient 180 on same sex marriage

And then you have Donald's opponent Hillary, who besides the fact was rejected by the Dems in 08, would've been an extension of Obama for another 8 years.

So don't feel that Trump supporters are stating his shit doesn't reek - we are acutely aware of his fallibility, we just happen to think he was the change we were looking for.

Looking back the Dems should've put up a fresh face - someone like Russ Feingold or Ron Wyden.
Those guys have consistent progressive histories, and aren't overly tied to the Obama/Clinton machines.

[DMC]

You have to be more covertly shitty. You can't be so openly shitty. While it's almost universally accepted that politicians are pieces of shit, we feel much better about it if they pretend they aren't, if they show a stoic face and make well vetted platitudes instead of off the cuff remarks that expose their true feelings.

We want change, but we want it to be the same change we never got before.

[spurs1990]

I wish they'd go back to being neutral. Or be political and just not give a thesis on situations in which the office of the presidency can be treated with disrespect.

I agree with Pop seeming to go out of his way to bash Trump in an overt way... can't explain what's triggering that.
Would make for an interesting case study if San Antonio wins a title in these next four (eight:hat) years and visits Trump.

But like I said I'm pushing that BS to the side and focusing on what goes on between the lines, and I like everything about this team, from our 14 players to the entire coaching staff.
I can't think of another team, certainly in basketball, that can mimic the class, integrity, and hard work of this iteration of the Spurs.

And they are bleeping 36-9 even after Duncan leaves! That's enough to let Pop say whatever he wants, or continue to be crude to the media.

[baseline bum]

Btw, Barack also ran against Clinton on the platform of NO universal healthcare - he then implements that as his signature policy. And don't forget about his politically expedient 180 on same sex marriage


I remember Obama running on a platform of providing RomneyCare with a public option, but not wanting to do single payer like what Bill Clinton ran on in 1992. I'm fine with Obama not spending political capital on gay issues considering that's what got Bush elected in 2004. Besides, he didn't make gay marriage legal; the supreme court did.

[baseline bum]

Looking back the Dems should've put up a fresh face - someone like Russ Feingold or Ron Wyden.
Those guys have consistent progressive histories, and aren't overly tied to the Obama/Clinton machines.

I completely agree that Clinton was a terrible candidate, probably the worst the DNC has put up since Wilson, and I would have never voted for her if the situation was flipped and the Democrats had a safe lead in the House. My vote for her was mostly a vote against Ryan having the power to get all his bills signed into law. The DNC probably should have put up Sanders considering he was actually exciting the base. Once he won Michigan and steamrolled Clinton in Wisconsin the superdelegates should have really looked hard at their votes the same way they were forced to when Obama started beating Clinton in the 2008 primaries.

[Spurminator]

I wish they'd go back to being neutral. Or be political and just not give a thesis on situations in which the office of the presidency can be treated with disrespect.

It baffles me that anyone could think Popovich (or Streep, or whoever) is disrespecting the office of the Presidency more than the current officeholder himself.

[spurraider21]

If anything pop bashing trump shows great respect for the office because he's aware how how important and powerful it is. The people who don't respect the office are the ones that say "meh government doesn't control things anyway, he's just a pawn and it's all a facade"

[Spurminator]

If anything pop bashing trump shows great respect for the office because he's aware how how important and powerful it is. The people who don't respect the office are the ones that say "meh government doesn't control things anyway, he's just a pawn and it's all a facade"

That or the "I love that he pisses off libtards so much" types.