The Wall......Its about to happen!!!

[AaronY]

Doesn't even know how to use brackets right

[AaronY]

A 20% higher bill on produce?
If it raises the prices of imports and we pay for it at the register aren't we just paying for it indirectly?

[tlongII]

let's not mince words, a physical wall separating us from Mexico would be moronic and a grotesque waste of money.

No it wouldn't. It would generate jobs and be symbolic of a tougher stance on illegal immigration.

[spurraider21]

If it raises the prices of imports and we pay for it at the register aren't we just paying for it indirectly?government bills them, they forward it to us via price hike

[Winehole23]

symbolic of a tougher stance, symbolic being the key word

[Winehole23]

a wall won't stop Central American refugees from surrendering to BP through ports of entry:


Far from evading authorities, most of these migrants from Central America want to be caught by the Border Patrol, so they can claim asylum. This is very different from the immigration crisis that Trump imagines, where undocumented Mexicans cross the border and go into hiding. In fact, fewer Mexicans are doing this than at any time in the past few decades. We don’t have a border security crisis or an uncontrolled flood of people coming from Mexico to take our jobs. Instead, we have a humanitarian crisis.


It’s also a crisis of our immigration system, which is now bursting at the seams from processing this influx. Currently, there is a 500,000-case backlog in the immigration courts — with many cases pending for five years or more. This backlog ripples its way through the system because we can’t send people back who have pending asylum claims and we can’t and shouldn’t detain people during that delay. So the smugglers tell migrants if they get to the border, all they need to do is make a minimally credible claim for asylum and they’ll be allowed to stay for the many years it takes to resolve it in court. The smugglers aren’t wrong.



Spending $14 billion to build a wall isn’t going to solve this problem. Under the law, migrants are entitled to have credible asylum claims heard. We can’t just bounce kids and families seeking protection off a wall, and leave them to their fate on the other side. Not only would this be immoral, it would be illegal: U.S. and international law mandate that we afford all seeking entry an ability to claim asylum if they have a credible fear of harm in their home country. Even if we were to build a wall along the border, such a wall wouldn’t block these migrants seeking asylum because many seek entry through our official ports of entry, such as Laredo or El Paso. You can’t just build a wall across Interstate 5 at the border between San Diego and Tijuana, or sever the Bridge of the Americas connecting El Paso and Juarez unless one wants to completely cut off America from Mexico, our third-largest trading partner. That is not a realistic option, so Central American asylum seekers will still come, whether there’s a wall or not.

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/01/trumps-border-wall-attacks-the-wrong-immigration-crisis-000286

[Gummi Clutch]

all this conservative talk of less spending and then they tax the american people, the majority of who do not support this shit-- 50 billion $ :lmao

[Winehole23]

political parties don't have principles. expedience, opportunity and power are the only things they care about.

[ducks]

November 15, 2015: comments made by Hillary Clinton in a New Hampshire Town Hall

“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in,” Clinton said “and I do think that you have to control your borders.”

[baseline bum]

all this conservative talk of less spending and then they tax the american people, the majority of who do not support this shit-- 50 billion $ :lmao

Just think how much this wall is going to cost if Trump doesn't hire illegals to build it.

[ducks]

Hire people on welfare

[boutons_deux]

Just think how much this wall is going to cost if Trump doesn't hire illegals to build it.

MIT engineering estimates $25-40B, excluding maintenance, staffing

[boutons_deux]

Hire people on welfare

Most are working, or unable to work.

[baseline bum]

Hire people on welfare

But he used illegals to build Trump Tower.

[clambake]

should be easier to build, what with the world now being flat and all.

[ducks]

People volunteering already to help

[ducks]

Most are working, or unable to work.

You are full of it

[Wild Cobra]

But he used illegals to build Trump Tower.

Oh, this stupid shit again.

He hires a contractor, that in turned hired illegal immigrants without Trumps knowledge.

Now I suppose you want him to micromanage everything he asks for...

Just how fucking stupid can you guys get?

Do you guys try to outdo each other in the stupidity department?

[spurraider21]

Oh, this stupid shit again.

He hires a contractor, that in turned hired illegal immigrants without Trumps knowledge.

Now I suppose you want him to micromanage everything he asks for...

Just how fucking stupid can you guys get?

Do you guys try to outdo each other in the stupidity department?coming from the guy who thought obama literally said illegal aliens become citizens by voting :lmao

[baseline bum]

Oh, this stupid shit again.

He hires a contractor, that in turned hired illegal immigrants without Trumps knowledge.

Now I suppose you want him to micromanage everything he asks for...

Just how fucking stupid can you guys get?

Do you guys try to outdo each other in the stupidity department?

Did your whore mother buy heroin with her welfare check when you were in the womb?

[Wild Cobra]

coming from the guy who thought obama literally said illegal aliens become citizens by voting :lmao

That's not what I said.

Did you watch the video?

[Wild Cobra]

Did your whore mother buy heroin with her welfare check when you were in the womb?

LOL...

Psychological projection...

LOL...

[monosylab1k]

No it wouldn't. It would generate jobs and be symbolic of a tougher stance on illegal immigration.

You can make jerkoff motions 2 feet long as a symbolic gesture of your massive cock, doesn't change the fact that you're working with a vienna sausage down there.

[tlongII]

You can make jerkoff motions 2 feet long as a symbolic gesture of your massive cock, doesn't change the fact that you're working with a vienna sausage down there.

Incorrect.

[Trill Clinton]

i just saw that trump got a third of the hispanic votehttp://i66.tinypic.com/141744.jpg

[Spur_Fanatic]

He also got his votes from rural areas... And he is fighting with China, who buys over 1/5th from US aggro exports.
And it's a buyer you simply can't replace. And they can get their food from somewhere else.

So this is good, I want to see this people suffer for their choice. It's only fair.

I'd not invest in the soybeans US market for a while, peeps.

[TheSanityAnnex]

ER43fQSUi5k
:lol

[boutons_deux]

Senate Republicans don’t sound too eager to pay for Trump’s wall

Republicans “bluntly told CNN they'd likely vote against any Trump plan that is not fully offset with spending cuts” while also noting some gentle substantive objections from some members of the caucus.

The most noteworthy of the objectors is Senator John Cornyn of Texas, both because he is the number two Republican in the Senate, and also because he’s from Texas — right on the border.

"I don't think we're just going to be able to solve border security with a physical barrier,” he told Raju, “because people can come under, around it and through it."

Texas doesn’t want the wall

Will Hurd (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/27/14412672/will-hurd-border-wall) (R-TX) who represents far-and-away the largest swathe of currently unwalled border — from the outskirts of El Paso down almost to the other end of the stat has been particularly vocal about this (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/27/14412672/will-hurd-border-wall), calling it “unnecessary” and “too expensive.” He has separately referred to it as “wasting hard-earned taxpayer dollars.”

Any feasible construction project is going to need to be straighter than the actual border, which is going to mean using the federal government’s eminent domain powers to take privately owned land and basically redraw the border.

This has been a flashpoint between Trump and elements of the ideological right in the past (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen), since he’s an enthusiastic proponent of using eminent domain to benefit private economic development projects, which many conservatives regard as unconstitutional.

they particularly wouldn’t like it if the government came in to take their land so that the president of the United States could avoid admitting that one of his campaign promises was kind of dumb. Moreover, it’s questionable it even would serve its stated purpose .

when the Texas Tribune surveyed the state’s 38-member congressional delegation it found that none of them wholeheartedly supported the border wall scheme (https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12/20/where-texas-congressional-delegation-stands-trumps/).

Fiscal issues could doom the wall

it’s unlikely red-state Democrats feel particularly pressured to bail Trump out on this, because they can always say that they want what their constituents voted for: Trump’s promise that Mexico will pay for the wall.

one possibility:

it wouldn’t be very difficult to appropriate some money for some additional wall construction.

That would be enough for Trump to make a visit to a border wall construction site and declare victory —

while Republican senators relieved to have avoided paying $14 billion for a wall would surely be happy to let Trump have the political win.

http://www.vox.com/2017/2/5/14499584/senate-republicans-pay-trump-wall

The wall? Nothing but campaign bait to sucker Trash's ignorant, racist, xenophobic Euro-white nationalists.

[mavsfan1000]

Build the Wall!

[Thread]

Build the Wall!

& build it tall. I don't want those mudslimes climbin' over it & gettin' in here. This is for Americans only. All others KEEP OUT.

You don't share shangrila. You keep it all to ourselves. We must have something pretty sweet for everybody to be sneaking in and getting court ordered in.

Just my 2 cents.

[CosmicCowboy]

Anyone that's ever driven from Del Rio to Big Bend knows how stupid a physical wall is.

[Th'Pusher]

84 Lumber goes all in with that Super Bowl commercial.

[Thread]

Anyone that's ever driven from Del Rio to Big Bend knows how stupid a physical wall is.

Maybe Trump is playin' possum?

[johnsmith]

I'm all for the wall....but only if I can do some of the work....otherwise, this is pretty dumb.

[mavsfan1000]

If Sanctuary Cities on the coast refuse to cooperate, include Walls there as well.

[boutons_deux]

Exclusive - Trump border 'wall' to cost $21.6 billion, take 3.5 years to build: internal report

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-wall-exclusive-idUSKBN15O2ZN?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29

[Winehole23]

President Donald Trump’s immigration policies threaten to crack a foundation of the American economy: the residential real estate market. Legal and otherwise, immigrants, long a pillar of growth in homebuying, are no longer feeling the warm welcome and optimism necessary for their biggest purchase.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-22/why-trump-s-immigration-crackdown-could-sink-u-s-home-prices

[Winehole23]

to say nothing of agriculture, construction and hospitality. steroidal enforcement of administrative law could have a serious economic downside.

[Winehole23]

imagine the EPA or the IRS deputizing local police to enforce environmental regs and tax law.

[Winehole23]

“‘I want to make it emphatically clear that neither Mexico’” s government or the Mexican people have any reason to accept provisions that have been unilaterally imposed by one government on the other,’ Mexico’s Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray said at a ceremony on Wednesday. ‘We won’t accept it because we don’t have to,’ he added, in an apparent reference to U.S. plans to return illegal migrants to Mexico, regardless of their nationality. Mr. Videgaray’s declaration spelled trouble for Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, who a White House official said were sent to ‘talk through the implementation’ of Mr. Trump’s guidelines'http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/playbook/2017/02/3-truths-about-trumps-wh-us-gets-chilly-reception-in-mexico-mnuchin-says-tax-reform-by-aug-we-say-no-way-the-juice-obama-hosts-party-at-new-digs-costa-to-guest-host-wash-week-218872

[Chucho]

Exclusive - Trump border 'wall' to cost $21.6 billion, take 3.5 years to build: internal report

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-wall-exclusive-idUSKBN15O2ZN?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29


That's cheap and quick.

[Winehole23]

So much for targeting criminals:


Documents show federal agents who conducted a recent immigration enforcement operation in the Austin area arrested more people without criminal convictions than convicted criminals.
ICE documents obtained by the KVUE Defenders and Austin American-Statesman show 23 of the 51 people detained in the Austin area had criminal convictions, which the other 28 were classified as “non-criminals,” meaning they did not have previous convictions.
The 55 percent of non-criminals arrested in the Austin region is well above the percentage of non-criminals arrested in other cities. In Atlanta and Chicago, around 30 percent of those arrested were “non-criminals,” with the percentage around 5 percent in both Los Angeles and New York.
http://www.kvue.com/news/investigations/defenders/austin-leads-us-noncriminals-arrested-ice-raids/412797374

[CosmicCowboy]

How many were charged with crimes but hadn't been to court yet?

I don't know. Do you?

[Splits]

Has anyone asked in this thread: what kind of faggot celebrates the building of a wall?

[CosmicCowboy]

The wall may be stupid but protecting your borders isn't.

You can't have serious and rational immigration reform without a border.

[Winehole23]

How many were charged with crimes but hadn't been to court yet?

I don't know. Do you?Anything asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

[CosmicCowboy]

I have always advocated hammering the employers of illegal aliens and we wouldn't have this issue.

My favorite taco places would probably go out of business though.

[CosmicCowboy]

Gringo tacos suck. Manteca rules.

[Winehole23]

I like machacado. damn near impossible to get a good version in ATX,

[CosmicCowboy]

I like machacado. damn near impossible to get a good version in ATX,

:lol

Machacado is my favorite go to.

Rodeo Jalisco on Wurzbach in SA is the freaking Machacado bomb.

[Winehole23]

thanks for the tip. I'm frequently in SA for business,

[CosmicCowboy]

OK, we have two things in common. Good wine and Machacado.

Do you think Emily Ratajkowski is hot? :lol

[Winehole23]

the good things in life are still good

[CosmicCowboy]

Mango and tajin?

[Winehole23]

Emily who?

[CosmicCowboy]

Emily who?

seriously? Hottest woman on the planet. May be dumb as a brick for all I know but....wow...recently in the news for outing that New York Times reporter for calling Melainia Trump a hooker...

[Winehole23]

pic or it isn't real

[CosmicCowboy]

Emily who?

http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3004282/740full-emily-ratajkowski.jpg

[TheSanityAnnex]

Body is a 10. Never found her face that attractive though, still don't know why.

[Winehole23]

very beautiful woman

[Splits]

Body is a 10. Never found her face that attractive though, still don't know why.

Maybe because her nose is the size of a snuffluffagous

[CosmicCowboy]

very beautiful woman

OK, that's three.

Mango and tajin?

[CosmicCowboy]

Maybe because her nose is the size of a snuffluffagous

LOL

post a picture of your significant other.

[Winehole23]

I like the spicy mango. I'm across the street from Hot Joy right now...

[CosmicCowboy]

I like the spicy mango. I'm across the street from Hot Joy right now...

OK, that 4 common points.

Haven't been to Hot Joy yet. Heard about it, but the name makes me laugh. Sounds like a Vietnamese blow job dive.

[Winehole23]

Spicy DIY chamoy bjs, if you're flexible enough

[tlongII]

Emily is smoking hot!

[Winehole23]

“What I am convinced can be built is a better relationship, better communication between people in governments at the state level the way we are doing between Texas and Tamaulipas, where we have 17 border crossings and a billion dollars in trade every day,” https://www.texastribune.org/2017/02/23/miller-meets-mexican-officials-rio-grande-talk-trade-economy/

[lebomb]

http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3004282/740full-emily-ratajkowski.jpg


Left eyebrow to bushy. Left forearm 1/4" to long.........do not want.


































j/k, Id hit it like a SA drunk not taking uber and rollin on the wrong side of loop 1604 on a Saturday night after midnight.

[Th'Pusher]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emmaloop/the-federal-government-just-took-the-first-step-in-building?utm_term=.oey5kyoMYn#.fplA2wKe87

[cd021]

Emily Ratajkowski bringing ST political forum together. :wow

she is fine as hell ,tbh

[boutons_deux]

Next Wave

Faces of Asia, Faces of America

The face of immigration is changing rapidly. Asians outpaced Hispanic immigrants in 2009, becoming the largest and fastest-growing wave of newcomers to the United States.

The group is a mosaic and not a monolith.

People are arriving from dozens of countries in Asia and the Pacific Islands, bringing unique languages, cultures, and histories.

Some come as legal immigrants, refugees, and asylum seekers, while others may overstay a visa or enter without proper documentation.

Many Asian immigrants share a collective desire to become American citizens. Since the 2012 presidential election, 60 percent of all eligible Asians and Pacific Islanders have become U.S. citizens.

This represents a demographic shift that shows no signs of slowing down.

https://medium.com/carnegie-reporter/next-wave-32c5429ba8c2#.ryts01i85

... while MX immigration is at lowest since 1970s.

And most illegals enter LEGALLY and overstay visas.

Trash's FUCKING WALL? to sucker his ignorant, stupid supporters

[baseline bum]

I like machacado. damn near impossible to get a good version in ATX,


:lol

Machacado is my favorite go to.

Rodeo Jalisco on Wurzbach in SA is the freaking Machacado bomb.

Why not just make it? It's carne seca and eggs with some diced onion, serrano, and tomato and finished with some chopped cilantro. Easiest thing in the world to cook. Just sautee the onions until soft in some oil, then add everything but the cilantro and scramble. Shit works great with a classic Tex-Mex salsa verde or with a more traditional Mexican arbol + tomatillo + pequin salsa.

[boutons_deux]

Trump voters are upset the new wall could put their homes on the Mexico side of the border (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/4/1650076/-Trump-voters-are-upset-the-new-wall-could-put-their-homes-on-the-Mexico-side-of-the-border)

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/4/1650076/-Trump-voters-are-upset-the-new-wall-could-put-their-homes-on-the-Mexico-side-of-the-border?detail=email&link_id=5&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-i-think-we-found-out-why-trump-skipped-throwing-out-the-first-pitch-at-opening-day-in-dc&email_referrer=i-think-we-found-out-why-trump-skipped-throwing-out-the-first-pitch-at-opening-day-in-dc&email_subject=i-think-we-found-out-why-trump-skipped-throwing-out-the-first-pitch-at-opening-day-in-dc

de facto "deported" :lol

[LkrFan]

Trump is gonna follow through with the great, great, beautiful wall I just read. Its vital, necessary and Mexico will in fact pay for it!!! Hellz yeah!!! :claw
Promises made
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/1279148313040781313?s=19
Promises kept! :lmao