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dabom
01-26-2017, 07:39 PM
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Hold this :lma coaches.

I wanna see the Western conference coaches to the Leastern conference voting. One of ya post that later.

BillMc
01-26-2017, 07:42 PM
Means Kawhi should be MVP to me. And possible Pop CoY. Won't happen but maybe it shouldl

spurraider21
01-26-2017, 07:42 PM
it was fairly predictable. they have more star players. but like the guy above said, it should, by extension, hurt those guys chances for MVP and boost kiwi's

tholdren
01-26-2017, 07:43 PM
pretty much how it works is.. media hypes players, you losers buy into it. Much like every day news.

BillMc
01-26-2017, 07:46 PM
Really if the Spurs can catch the Dubs in the standings that 4-1, will bolster a strong argument for Kawhi. If by hook or by crook Spurs get the 1, Kawhi could really win it.

Robz4000
01-26-2017, 07:46 PM
Means Kawhi should be MVP to me. And possible Pop CoY. Won't happen but maybe it shouldl

Pop shouldn't sniff COTY tbh. There are at least 5 other coaches doing a better job this year.

BillMc
01-26-2017, 07:50 PM
Pop shouldn't sniff COTY tbh. There are at least 5 other coaches doing a better job this year.

He won't get it I agree, but I think he SHOULD be in the conversation. So many new parts to integrate, and we're well over 60 wins pace.

GSH
01-26-2017, 07:50 PM
Better this way. If the Spurs had 4 All-Stars, I might, almost, nearly have to give a rat's ass. As it is, the only reason I'd go out of my way to watch is if they actually turned Kawhi loose to play defense, which is usually not a part of the AS Game. I'd love to see Kawhi picking pockets and blocking shots. Of course, if he did, there would be four other jackasses wanting him to pass them the ball so they could finish.

daslicer
01-26-2017, 07:52 PM
Disappointing that the glorified role player Draymond got in as an all-star gain.

Splits
01-26-2017, 07:52 PM
Incredible they left of HOTS Parker

Robz4000
01-26-2017, 07:52 PM
Really if the Spurs can catch the Dubs in the standings that 4-1, will bolster a strong argument for Kawhi. If by hook or by crook Spurs get the 1, Kawhi could really win it.

Kawhi won't win it regardless. Everyone views Pop as the sole reason behind the Spurs' success the past few years so in that scenario they'd just give him another COTY.

Robz4000
01-26-2017, 07:53 PM
He won't get it I agree, but I think he SHOULD be in the conversation. So many new parts to integrate, and we're well over 60 wins pace.

He's always in the conversation based on the fact he's unanimously regarded as the best coach in the league.

FkLA
01-26-2017, 07:53 PM
LMA is better than both Klaynus and Donkey tbh.

tholdren
01-26-2017, 07:54 PM
probably because those idiots looked at plus minus and thought, like Chinook, that had an actual implication on how good an individual player is....

picnroll
01-26-2017, 07:54 PM
Clearly Zaza got robbed.

Leetonidas
01-26-2017, 07:55 PM
Lol the team with 4 all stars and two MVPs only 2 up in the loss column :lmao

UZER
01-26-2017, 07:55 PM
Question is how does LMA take it. He's already made his system comment.

Does it light a fire, or just create even more of a meh attitude?

Benoit
01-26-2017, 07:55 PM
Aren't Spurs undefeated without leonard? Lmao their stars don't have value like the other top players in the league

Pop is the Spurs

He could probably take any 5 players and win 50 games

Imagine Kobe had Pop his whole career, he would have at least 7 rings

DPG21920
01-26-2017, 07:57 PM
Question is how does LMA take it. He's already made his system comment.

Does it light a fire, or just create even more of a meh attitude?

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BillMc
01-26-2017, 07:58 PM
Question is how does LMA take it. He's already made his system comment.

Does it light a fire, or just create even more of a meh attitude?

I missed his system comment what did he say?

daslicer
01-26-2017, 08:02 PM
To some degree this also harms the Spurs rep when it comes to getting good FA's granted SA before they got LMA they never attracted all-star players. This however will definitely hurt because now players will definitely fearing losing their all-star status by joining the Spurs knowing that it's very difficult for two players to average 20 or more in the spurs offensive system.

Leetonidas
01-26-2017, 08:04 PM
Aren't Spurs undefeated without leonard? Lmao their stars don't have value like the other top players in the league

Pop is the Spurs

He could probably take any 5 players and win 50 games

Imagine Kobe had Pop his whole career, he would have at least 7 rings

Didn't you faggot team win like 6 playoff games without Wardell last season? :lmao

picnroll
01-26-2017, 08:05 PM
How the hell did the donkey beat out Gobert. Gobert is a FAR better defender and now even a much better offensive player. More PPG, more blocks, more rebounds and a far better shooting percentage than donkey's.

daslicer
01-26-2017, 08:05 PM
Didn't you faggot team win like 6 playoff games without Wardell last season? :lmao

Benoit is an alt from Kool. He was outed last summer.

picnroll
01-26-2017, 08:07 PM
Benoit is an alt from Kool. He was outed last summer.
Easy to understand why a Laker fan is hiding under a rock.

BillMc
01-26-2017, 08:07 PM
To some degree this also harms the Spurs rep when it comes to getting good FA's granted SA before they got LMA they never attracted all-star players. This however will definitely hurt because now players will definitely fearing losing their all-star status by joining the Spurs knowing that it's very difficult for two players to average 20 or more in the spurs offensive system.


Good point. The way to offset that is a :lobt: for :lma. :flag:

Leetonidas
01-26-2017, 08:09 PM
Benoit is an alt from Kool. He was outed last summer.

I know :lol just making idle banter tbh

DMC
01-26-2017, 08:10 PM
If Pop was on the ballot he'd win every year but he's not. Pop gets the credit for the team's success, and Kawhi is the best player on the team. In GS, the team gets credit and Steve is there trying to ride the whirlwind.

Maddog
01-26-2017, 08:10 PM
GSW have 4 All-Stars but SA only has 1?

I guess it means GS is 4X better than the Spurs

timtonymanu
01-26-2017, 08:11 PM
If it leads to him playing like LMAlpha in the playoffs, it's worth it.

spurraider21
01-26-2017, 08:13 PM
there isn't some formula regarding your place in the standings vs how many players ur supposed to get

aldridge had a hot streak in late december/early january... but has been kinda meh other than that. green has easily been better. klay is a bigger question mark, but its still arguable

FkLA
01-26-2017, 08:14 PM
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DMC
01-26-2017, 08:16 PM
Benoit is an alt from Kool. He was outed last summer.

Not unless Kool intentionally misspells certain words every time as Kool but not once as Benoit.

DMC
01-26-2017, 08:17 PM
A team could feasibly have the 3rd best in the league at every position and have no one in the AS game, yet win a championship with that level of talent.

FkLA
01-26-2017, 08:19 PM
there isn't some formula regarding your place in the standings vs how many players ur supposed to get

aldridge had a hot streak in late december/early january... but has been kinda meh other than that. green has easily been better. klay is a bigger question mark, but its still arguable

I know Donkey is a solid playmaker but 10.8 PPG on 44.8/32.2/66.7 shooting is pretty meh too.

spurraider21
01-26-2017, 08:20 PM
I know Donkey is a solid playmaker but 10.8 PPG on 44.8/32.2/66.7 shooting is pretty meh too.yeah but on a team that has durant, curry, klay, is PPG really the measure for a 4th scoring option? he's been as good as ever defensively and is the best facilitator on a well oiled machine

i know its trendy on ST to shit on draymond, but he's a unique talent and hasn't dropped off (outside of his 3 point shot)

dabom
01-26-2017, 08:21 PM
I know Donkey is a solid playmaker but 10.8 PPG on 44.8/32.2/66.7 shooting is pretty meh too.

Even after inflating their stats cause of pace. :lol

picnroll
01-26-2017, 08:25 PM
Even after inflating their stats cause of pace. :lol
... and getting good looks with all the other players drawing the attention.

Kawhitstorm
01-26-2017, 08:31 PM
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This actually bodes well for the Spurs, Softridge took it out on Love/Blake after he got snubbed in 2011.:toast


On February 2, the NBA announced the All-Star reserves. Frontcourt players making the Western Conference team over Aldridge were Dirk Nowitzski, Pau Gasol, Blake Griffin and Tim Duncan. Kevin Love also made the team as an injury replacement for Yao Ming.

All five selections are understandable. Nowitzski and Gasol are no-brainers, Griffin and Love have averages better than 21 points and 12 rebounds, and Duncan, despite career-low numbers is representing the Spurs, who have the NBA's best record.

How has Aldridge responding to the snubbing? Well, including his 36-point performance in a 105-100 win over the Detroit Pistons (http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2011/02/pistons_suffer_second_consecut.html), he's averaging 29.8 points, 8.4 rebounds and 1.8 blocks, while shooting 56.3 percent from the floor.

FkLA
01-26-2017, 08:38 PM
yeah but on a team that has durant, curry, klay, is PPG really the measure for a 4th scoring option? he's been as good as ever defensively and is the best facilitator on a well oiled machine

i know its trendy on ST to shit on draymond, but he's a unique talent and hasn't dropped off (outside of his 3 point shot)

He's never been a scorer, I get that but those percentages are pretty shitty. I also think it's a stretch to say he's the best facilitator on that team even though he's obviously solid in that area. I know he leads them in assists but he's not putting pressure on offenses the way Steph or KD do, tbh.

FkLA
01-26-2017, 08:39 PM
Can't wait for LMAlpha to take it out on Donkey, tbh.

http://i.makeagif.com/media/1-27-2017/H1Gaj2.gif

tonight...you
01-26-2017, 08:41 PM
LMA is better than both Klaynus and Donkey tbh.
Combined... when he's engaged.

SAGirl
01-26-2017, 08:44 PM
Pop shouldn't sniff COTY tbh. There are at least 5 other coaches doing a better job this year.
Pop bolstering his chances with a roster with 3 rookies, a few significant player changes, Tim retiring, and only kawhi as the star player... (the media narrative)
Frankly I am not in the let's critizice Pop train, but he is bolstering his chances.

They likely pick someone else bc of voter fatigue. I have no idea who is deserving currently.

UZER
01-26-2017, 08:46 PM
there isn't some formula regarding your place in the standings vs how many players ur supposed to get

aldridge had a hot streak in late december/early january... but has been kinda meh other than that. green has easily been better. klay is a bigger question mark, but its still arguable

Yeah he was rolling, then Pop sat him and he's been meh every since he had those days off.

Dex
01-26-2017, 09:00 PM
Just another reason to fuck up the Warriors come May.

tonight...you
01-26-2017, 09:07 PM
Well... Pop did tell Kawhi he was the Big 1...
Pop may know some things.

TheGreatYacht
01-26-2017, 09:18 PM
Klay Thompson is literally worse than CJ McCollum in every stat (raw or advanced) besides rebounds per game..... where he beats CJ by 0.3rebs :lmao

Anyone can be a coach nowadays in Today's NBA. That's why only 4-5 coaches stick

TheGreatYacht
01-26-2017, 09:19 PM
Raymond Green averaging 10/8/7 on 44FG% :lmao

..... an "automatic" allstar according to the TNT crew :lmao

SAGirl
01-26-2017, 09:35 PM
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99 Problems
01-26-2017, 10:40 PM
We'll have 2 next year with LeBron and Kawhawa.

Kawhitstorm
01-27-2017, 12:11 AM
Klay Thompson is literally worse than CJ McCollum in every stat (raw or advanced) besides rebounds per game..... where he beats CJ by 0.3rebs :lmao

Anyone can be a coach nowadays in Today's NBA. That's why only 4-5 coaches stick

CJ/Lillard are possibly the worst MAX contract backcourt in NBA history as far as defense is concerned.:lol

Klay as the primary option (when Curry was out) raped CJ in last season's series: http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2016-nba-western-conference-semifinals-trail-blazers-vs-warriors.html

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Lillard topped CJ by conceding a record 17 pts in OT to a crippled Curry::lol

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Kawhitstorm
01-27-2017, 12:13 AM
Raymond Green averaging 10/8/7 on 44FG% :lmao

..... an "automatic" allstar according to the TNT crew :lmao

Gaymond is a the most overrated system player in NBA history, he got destroyed by Steven Adams who didn't even get a single all-star vote.:lol

Hopefully, they Duds play the Jazz in the 2nd rd & a pissed off Gobert goes '94 Mutombo on 'em.

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SpursforSix
01-27-2017, 12:16 AM
If Pop was on the ballot he'd win every year but he's not. Pop gets the credit for the team's success, and Kawhi is the best player on the team. In GS, the team gets credit and Steve is there trying to ride the whirlwind.

Which makes no sense to me. Riley, Jackson, and Auerbach all get credit for being great coaches even though they had loaded teams.

PopTheGOAT
01-27-2017, 12:19 AM
A team could feasibly have the 3rd best in the league at every position and have no one in the AS game, yet win a championship with that level of talent.
The best player on a top tier team will make it 99.9% of the time.

jbspurs
01-27-2017, 12:42 AM
Totally agree, His numbers are not even close to be an Allstar.

ElNono
01-27-2017, 01:27 AM
Pop can't even coach the West, since he was the coach last season, right?

tbdog
01-27-2017, 01:52 AM
Then Leonard should be automatically ahead of the mvp race if you have the second best record with only one allstar, and only 2 games back. While Harden is ahead 7 games back?

cd021
01-27-2017, 01:56 AM
Spurs with a .800 winning percentage and 1 all star :lol

cd021
01-27-2017, 02:16 AM
Gaymond is a the most overrated system player in NBA history, he got destroyed by Steven Adams who didn't even get a single all-star vote.:lol

Hopefully, they Duds play the Jazz in the 2nd rd & a pissed off Gobert goes '94 Mutombo on 'em.

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I would still prefer the clippers to play GS. Neither the Jazz or Clips are likely to win but I would at least like to see the Warriors have to work before they get to the WCF.
In this bracket, Houston and Memphis would play, Houston would be favored but Memphis has a way of playing over their heads against better teams in the playoffs, I would love to have the Spurs play Memphis in the second round after beating OKC.

GSW
SAS
HOU
LAC
JAZZ
MEM
OKC
DEN/POR/SAC

2nd round
GSW
SAS
HOUS
LAC

LAC VS. GSW
HOU VS. SAS

r0drig0lac
01-27-2017, 04:34 AM
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he's hurt

widowmaker
01-27-2017, 07:44 AM
Golden state is a fan favorite now a days you cant beat that not until they get exposed for HGH or something.

widowmaker
01-27-2017, 07:53 AM
I don't even watch the allstar game anyway last time i watched i was like 15. Personally i dont want any spurs playing in that game they should sit out and rest that weekend get ready for what really matters playing for a championship.

NameLess Scrub
01-27-2017, 08:19 AM
Feel a bit bad for LMa, but maybe his Fatdridge act cost him the AS selection.

Yes, it should help Kawhi's MVP candidacy. Question is, will it actually?

Old School 44
01-27-2017, 09:17 AM
Not that it really matters, but if a WC all-star drops out because of injury, who does the Commissioner select? My guess is it's LA.

$pursDynasty
01-27-2017, 09:45 AM
I would still prefer the clippers to play GS. Neither the Jazz or Clips are likely to win but I would at least like to see the Warriors have to work before they get to the WCF.
In this bracket, Houston and Memphis would play, Houston would be favored but Memphis has a way of playing over their heads against better teams in the playoffs, I would love to have the Spurs play Memphis in the second round after beating OKC.

GSW
SAS
HOU
LAC
JAZZ
MEM
OKC
DEN/POR/SAC

2nd round
GSW
SAS
HOUS
LAC

LAC VS. GSW
HOU VS. SAS
if we are fantasy booking then the only change I make is have the Jazz drop back to 6, Mem at 4 and LAC at 5, make things harder on the Clips, no HCA and the Grizz if they get past them are a matchup problem for the Dubs.

RD2191
01-27-2017, 09:53 AM
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The difference between a winner and a loser, vacation? Kawhi would be in the gym all week working on his game and trying to get better.

Perry Mason
01-27-2017, 10:11 AM
LMA has had a good year. If I had time, I would post the stats. But if you peruse Baskbetballreference and NBA.com, you can see for yourself that LMA is basically the same All-Star player he was last year. Some downward adjustments are made to account for the fact that he plays with Pau, so he has less rebounds, and the Spurs had to deal with so many new faces, which contributes to a slower start.

But things like WS/48, TS%, BPM, are near LMA's career highs - often second-only to his highs set last year. They are generally better than anything he did in Portland. His raw +/- is also among his better numbers, indicating that the lineups he is in are pretty stout overall.

If All-Stars are for the best players, I think LMA was snubbed. The Spurs' system doesn't ask him to contribute as much, which saves his energy and makes him more effective. I get that Draymond is a good defender, but LMA is one as well, and his defensive impact stats (which are highly flawed, I know) indicate that the lineups he is in are strong defenders. He also deserved it over DJ, whose overall game just doesn't compare.

MultiTroll
01-27-2017, 10:21 AM
LMA has had a good year.

If All-Stars are for the best players, I think LMA was snubbed.
Perry I'm sure your investigation will lead you to the conclusion the Mafia was involved in the 4 Warriors selections.

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2015/04/26/the-gay-mafia-and-americas-aggressive-homosexual-agenda/

http://www.lukeford.net/essays/contents/homo_mafia.htm

urunobili
01-27-2017, 10:40 AM
Market ability TBH... different that marketability...

bklynspursfan
01-27-2017, 10:53 AM
Here's to hoping he plays with a chip on his shoulder. He doesn't seem like that kind of dude, but I hope it fires him up a bit.

GSH
01-27-2017, 11:30 AM
The difference between a winner and a loser, vacation? Kawhi would be in the gym all week working on his game and trying to get better.


I'm not an Aldridge hater like some here. But that's the damn truth. Kawhi would spend the week working on his game.

lilbthebasedgod
01-27-2017, 02:54 PM
Wasn't worth it. Wouldn't take off any of those. Aldridge is fine now but had was bad for too long at the beginning.

Arcadian
01-27-2017, 04:24 PM
Should've been 2 and 2: Curry/Durant and Leonard/Aldridge.

Say what you will, but Aldridge > Gaymond.

cjw
01-27-2017, 04:50 PM
Should've been 2 and 2: Curry/Durant and Leonard/Aldridge.

Say what you will, but Aldridge > Gaymond.

Draymond is also much more deserving than Klay. Yes, he only averages <11 ppg but impacts the game everywhere else, whereas Klay only scores and not even as efficiently as years past.

Klay's in the bottom 10 among SG in assist ratio around the likes of JJ Redick and a bunch of trash (I think Redick is essentially his peer) but turns the ball over more than most of them. He doesn't rebound well for his position. eFG%/TS% do not jump off the page. PER is middle of the pack.

He's basically been Michael Redd this season with a better 3 point stroke but lesser assist/rebounding/steals metrics. Redd played in the East and made only one ASG for comparative purposes.

Old School 44
01-27-2017, 05:42 PM
Klay doesn't deserve an all-star nod, but I bet it bugs him that 4 Warriors are going and one of them's not him. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets shipped somewhere down the line.

dabom
01-27-2017, 06:13 PM
Look man. If you voted by numbers and not impact you get one. If you voted by impact and not numbers you voted the other by using your criteria. If you used both numbers and impact together you get neither. In no way shape or form do you get both unless you just voted with ZERO fucking rationale. :lol

$pursDynasty
01-27-2017, 07:06 PM
I'm not an Aldridge hater like some here. But that's the damn truth. Kawhi would spend the week working on his game.
Apples and oranges, Timmay would have worked out (if he was ever not on an all star team, lol) early in his career but later on I am sure he considered it a hassle and would enjoy or take some time off. LMA has been in the league for a minute, so while Kiwi would work out now, by the time he has the time served as high as LMA he will vacation too, if he were to ever not be voted in (like that would happen).

daslicer
01-27-2017, 09:27 PM
The difference between a winner and a loser, vacation? Kawhi would be in the gym all week working on his game and trying to get better.

I can't recall Tim Duncan being a loser despite stating he looked forward to having time off to rest and relax after being snubbed from the ASG a few years ago. Retarded post but then again you have always lacked intelligence so it's not shocking. After the age of 30 players rarely get better and at that point of time in their careers that there's zero or little room for growth. Lamarcus is in his 30's at this point of his career his focus should be staying in great shape. That is something he failed at miserably this year and deserved the harsh criticism that he received in this forum for being out of shape. If we are being realistic about expectations here you should hope LMA doesn't over eat during the ASG break and gain weight. So what did you want LMA to work on that you felt he could make tremendous improvements in 1 week? Time to be honest with yourself and admit that you are a big time Lamarcus hater.

Slippy
01-28-2017, 08:40 AM
I'm not an Aldridge hater like some here. But that's the damn truth. Kawhi would spend the week working on his game.

The truth is you only looking at from one angle. One guy is in his thirties while the other one in his twenties. Take it from there & youll find the truth.

Amuseddaysleeper
01-28-2017, 11:36 AM
Aldridge isn't close to being an all star this season. He's just a good role player at this point, but has no business being in the all star game. Lacks any consistency to be a reliable second option.

UZER
01-28-2017, 11:54 AM
Aldridge isn't close to being an all star this season. He's just a good role player at this point, but has no business being in the all star game. Lacks any consistency to be a reliable second option.

I agree. But why does GS get 4?

spursistan
01-28-2017, 03:18 PM
Aldridge is not a star caliber player anymore..He wasn't snubbed out of ASG. A couple of hot weeks--like the one he had in late Dec/early Jan-- doesn't mean you belong there..Games like last night shows you he can't carry a team even in the dog days of the regular season..Who would have thought Kawhi wouldn't keep scoring 30 per night for the rest of the season?

LMA is basically Kevin Love status for this team-- a marginal 3rd option who is at the fag end of his prime..

Let's face it : Spurs are just too short on star power compared to other contenders..Even when we made the Finals and won in 2013/2014 two of TP/Manu/TD had the impact of Top 10 players in those two playoff runs..

Too bad Murray is too young and raw to serve as Kawhi's menacing sidekick in the mould of Kyrie Irving. Dejounte does seem to have the panache style and irrational confidence that brings home improbable playoffs wins..Something i just don't think Aldridge has it in him..

Amuseddaysleeper
01-28-2017, 06:14 PM
I agree. But why does GS get 4?

I agree in that 4 is a bit much, I don't think Klay should have gotten a spot but I don't have much issue with Durant, Curry, and Green getting their spots.

UZER
01-28-2017, 07:13 PM
I agree in that 4 is a bit much, I don't think Klay should have gotten a spot but I don't have much issue with Durant, Curry, and Green getting their spots.

The point is, as average as LMA has been this year outside of his hot streak, two of those guys on GS are not having a better seasons than him.

When did this best record requires 3 or more all stars start?