Gallup: Obama's average approval rating was LOWER than Dubya's and Nixon's

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/uAe3EKH.jpg

http://www.gallup.com/poll/202742/obama-averages-job-approval-president.aspx/

Also of note:


Obama began his presidency with approval ratings in the high 60s, among the best for a newly elected president (http://www.gallup.com/poll/113968/obama-initial-approval-ratings-historical-context.aspx). But by the end of his first year, his approval ratings fell to near 50% and dropped below the majority level early in his second year. After his first year, he received sustained majority approval only once more during his first term in office. Fortunately for him, that came during his 16th quarter in office -- around the time he was re-elected in the fall of 2012. Shortly after his second term began, his support dipped back into the 40s and did not return to the majority level again until his final year in office. His 32nd and final quarter job approval average of 55.7% was his third-highest as president.


Translation: the American people only really liked Obama as the Campaigner-in-Chief and as a lame-duck president in his last year in office. When he was actually governing, he wasn't nearly as popular.

[boutons_deux]

He was a knitter, duh, in a much more polarized country, compared to two white guys?

Nixon actually did some good stuff which would be impossible now, along with his crimes, and his VEEP and 40 lawyers that went to prison.

[Clipper Nation]

He was a knitter, duh
You do realize that using "knitter" as a stand-in for the word you actually want to use doesn't make you any less racist, right?

If race was anywhere near the factor that you're claiming it is, he wouldn't have had a higher average rating than Ford, Carter and Truman.


in a much more polarized country.
Gee, it's almost as if Obama was an extremely divisive president!

[ElNono]

Translation: the American people only really liked Obama as the Campaigner-in-Chief and as a lame-duck president in his last year in office. When he was actually governing, he wasn't nearly as popular.

This is true. It's also worth mentioning though that dubya had his approval ratings syrocket shortly after 9/11, mostly on country unity for the historical tragedy and starting his two wars, and his rating plummet once time has shown what his decisions following that event were. He was much more of a lame duck than Barry was in his last year, in big part due to the economic crisis. Neither could hold a candle to Bush Sr, though, IMO.

[Reck]

Its not how you start..is how you finish. :toast

[Clipper Nation]

Its not how you start..is how you finish. :toast
And Obama still finished worse than he started:

http://i.imgur.com/wVlt240.jpg

Just look at how those ratings plummeted when he wasn't newly-elected, campaigning or lame-duck status. :wow

[Spur_Fanatic]

Is this a "Trump is my beloved leader and has everyone's support... but anyway, check how Obama is actually not as loved as you all say" thread?

[spurraider21]

:lmao Clipper Nation
:lmao polls
:lmao didn't you stupid libcucks learn that polls are meaningless

[Clipper Nation]

Is this a "Trump is my beloved leader and has everyone's support... but anyway, check how Obama is actually not as loved as you all say" thread?
It has little to do with Trump. I've just seen a lot of articles with people cherrypicking Obama's final approval rating and using it as "proof" that he was overwhelmingly popular. That talking point didn't make sense to me. After all, we're only a few months removed from his entire legacy and agenda getting soundly rejected at the ballot box. Plus Democrats did nothing but lose ground electorally during Obama's administration at both the federal and state level. If he was as popular as Media would have you believe, surely the public would have voted for more of the status quo each time they had a chance, not less. Then I came across the Gallup Poll I linked to in the OP, which provided a far more realistic view of Obama's actual popularity. I decided to post it because fake news is a big issue in today's world and the only way to counteract it is to educate people with the real news.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Interesting. And who decides what's "real news"? Trump? :D
We talking of some guy that quoted news he knew were fake.

Slippery slope, man.

[Clipper Nation]

Interesting. And who decides what's "real news"? Trump? :D
We talking of some guy that quoted news he knew were fake.

Slippery slope, man.
Damn, Trump sure is living rent-free in your head. You were the first one to even bring him up ITT.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Well, it's not like all of the sudden you decided to ascertain what is real and fake news, pal. :)
You trying to present "your"... alternative facts, after all.

Right? :lol

[Adam Lambert]

op is a faggot

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol Trumpists deflecting his 44% approval rating. Historically shitty for a POTUS in his first 100 days.

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:lol Trumpists deflecting his 44% approval rating. Historically shitty for a POTUS in his first 100 days.

I'm still in wonderment about the 98% gathering by the pollsters that stated we'd be here tonite discussing Hillary as POTUS.

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[RandomGuy]

Translation: the American people only really liked Obama as the Campaigner-in-Chief and as a lame-duck president in his last year in office. When he was actually governing, he wasn't nearly as popular.

A testament, IMO, to the effectiveness of the right-wing propaganda machine, rather than any real knowledge of what was going on.

[RandomGuy]

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Eyup. Either candidate would have started off hobbled.

Clinton is lucky in some regards that it wasn't her.

[Splits]

I'm still in wonderment about the 98% gathering by the pollsters that stated we'd be here tonite discussing Hillary as POTUS.

Except that never happened. "the pollsters" predicted a Clinton win of around 3-4% nationally with a MoE of around 2.5%. She won by 2.1%. They were incredibly accurate at polling the national electorate.

[Thread]

Except that never happened. "the pollsters" predicted a Clinton win of around 3-4% nationally with a MoE of around 2.5%. She won by 2.1%. They were incredibly accurate at polling the national electorate.

No, 98% of the polls stated Hillary would be POTUS.

[Splits]

No, 98% of the polls stated Hillary would be POTUS.

Nope.

[Thread]

Nope.

Yep.

[Splits]

Yep.

You're obviously a newb down here, since you only joined our community Post-9 Nov. But "the polls" never claimed to predict the outcome of the election. That was left to the people you watch on TV to interpret "the polls".

"the polls" predicted a Clinton victory in the national election. "they" were right.

[Cry Havoc]

Look at the flailing. It's "all hands on deck" mode for Trump supporters, because it only took him a week to have a nuclear meltdown. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

A testament, IMO, to the effectiveness of the right-wing propaganda machine, rather than any real knowledge of what was going on.
:lol You really are the walking stereotype of a partisan Democrat. It borders on self-parody.

[Clipper Nation]

Look at the flailing. It's "all hands on deck" mode for Trump supporters, because it only took him a week to have a nuclear meltdown. :lol
:lol I like how the board liberals' only response to Obama's unpopularity is "b-b-but, Trump! The VRWC!"

[florige]

Eyup. Either candidate would have started off hobbled.

Clinton is lucky in some regards that it wasn't her.


As much as I dislike Trump I agree. I think Hillary may had been trending a few points higher, but not by much.

[Cry Havoc]

:lol I like how the board liberals' only response to Obama's unpopularity is "b-b-but, Trump! The VRWC!"

I like how you're creating threads about Obama when he's no longer President. :lol Don't you have more interesting things to talk about?


Gotta get that deflection on.

[Cry Havoc]

double post

[DMC]

:lol Trumpists deflecting his 44% approval rating. Historically shitty for a POTUS in his first 100 days.

How was Hillary's approval rating in her first 100 days? Oh that's right, she lost.

[Cry Havoc]

As much as I dislike Trump I agree. I think Hillary may had been trending a few points higher, but not by much.

She wouldn't be completely destroying her party's chances for the next 16 years in the first 8 days of her Presidency though. :lol What do you think is going on in the war room of the GOP right now when Trump isn't there? There has to be borderline mass hysteria.

[Clipper Nation]

I like how you're creating threads about Obama when he's no longer President. :lol Don't you have more interesting things to talk about?


Gotta get that deflection on.
It's the Political Forum and this is a recent political story. It's so "uninteresting" to you that you're here spinning and deflecting like mad.

[Clipper Nation]

She wouldn't be completely destroying her party's chances for the next 16 years in the first 8 days of her Presidency though. :lol
She already did that in November.

[Cry Havoc]

It's the Political Forum and this is a recent political story. It's so "uninteresting" to you that you're here spinning and deflecting like mad.

Spinning and deflecting? :lol Come on now. The only thing I'm spinning and deflecting is my popcorn off your dome.

[Thread]

You're obviously a newb down here, since you only joined our community Post-9 Nov. But "the polls" never claimed to predict the outcome of the election. That was left to the people you watch on TV to interpret "the polls".

"the polls" predicted a Clinton victory in the national election. "they" were right.

No, the pollsters by 98% predicted that Hillary would be POTUS.

[Cry Havoc]

She already did that in November.

No one has ever been a laughingstock 8 days into their presidency. Even Hilldog would be comporting herself much better than this shitshow.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How was Hillary's approval rating in her first 100 days? Oh that's right, she lost.

And?

This is not a zero sum thing post election, dim. Her being a shitty candidate doesn't change that Trump is having a historically bad start to his administration no matter how much you wave your hands.

I also like how you are the 5th Trumpist to try this line of thinking in this thread alone. Nary an original thought between you.

[Clipper Nation]

Spinning and deflecting? :lol Come on now. The only thing I'm spinning and deflecting is my popcorn off your dome.
Yes, deflecting. When you read a thread about Obama's approval rating that has nothing to do with the current president and your response is "b-b-but, Trump," it's textbook deflection.

[Clipper Nation]

No one has ever been a laughingstock 8 days into their presidency. Even Hilldog would be comporting herself much better than this shitshow.
The real laughingstock is the Democratic Party, which now holds their fewest seats in political office since Reconstruction. The Dems are such a disaster that I'm wondering if Jim Buss is secretly the new DNC chair.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes, deflecting. When you read a thread about Obama's approval rating that has nothing to do with the current president and your response is "b-b-but, Trump," it's textbook deflection.

Actually the OP is textbook confirmation bias. The story highlights were:

Only Truman, Ford, Carter had lower averages as president
Final job approval rating of 59% among the highest for presidents
Obama ratings avoided extreme highs, lows

The actual title of the article was "Obama Averages 47.9% Job Approval as President"

Compare and contrast with this title: "Trump Sets New Low Point for Inaugural Approval Rating"

Given that Obama started in the 60s and Trump is already lower than his averages it is obvious why you would want to spin the article to deflect attention from how shitty your boy is doing.

[Clipper Nation]

Who gives a shit where Obama started? That doesn't change the fact that on average, he was one of our least popular presidents since WWII. And that was despite the entire national and international media coddling him and shielding him from any blame over the last eight years.

Trump could have a 0% approval rating or an 100% rating and it still wouldn't be relevant to Obama's ratings. Truth is, you can't stand the fact that Obama wasn't very popular outside of your partisan bubble and are now grasping at anything to deflect. I won't even get into how dumb it is to compare Trump's rating after a week in office to Obama's average rating over eight years.

[Spurminator]

Who gives a shit where Obama started?

No one gives a shit about any of it. tbh

Failed thread.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Who gives a shit where Obama started? That doesn't change the fact that on average, he was one of our least popular presidents since WWII. And that was despite the entire national and international media coddling him and shielding him from any blame over the last eight years.

Trump could have a 0% approval rating or an 100% rating and it still wouldn't be relevant to Obama's ratings. Truth is, you can't stand the fact that Obama wasn't very popular outside of your partisan bubble and are now grasping at anything to deflect. I won't even get into how dumb it is to compare Trump's rating after a week in office to Obama's average rating over eight years.

Dim, Obama's approval rating was 59% as he left two weeks ago. Like I said, you left that part out.

And I wasn't comparing his average to Obama's overall average. I like comparing apples to apples and Obama's start was over 15 higher than your boy.

PS - I don't even like Obama. I just think he was better than the current stooge.

[DMC]

^sure, everyone was happy to see him leave!

If he was that popular last year why couldn't his party beat a reality TV star who grabs pussies? :lol

[DMC]

And?

This is not a zero sum thing post election, dim. Her being a shitty candidate doesn't change that Trump is having a historically bad start to his administration no matter how much you wave your hands.

I also like how you are the 5th Trumpist to try this line of thinking in this thread alone. Nary an original thought between you.
"our shitty offering doesn't excuse yours"

I am not a Trumpist, or a Trumpette. You bitch about the HNWIC but you couldn't muster enough support to do anything about it because no one gives a flying fuck about your leftist agenda.

[DMC]

No one has ever been a laughingstock 8 days into their presidency. Even Hilldog would be comporting herself much better than this shitshow.

How old are you?

[Clipper Nation]

Dim, Obama's approval rating was 59% as he left two weeks ago. Like I said, you left that part out.

And I wasn't comparing his average to Obama's overall average. I like comparing apples to apples and Obama's start was over 15 higher than your boy.

PS - I don't even like Obama. I just think he was better than the current stooge.
Dimmer, his average across his whole presidency was one of the lowest since WWII. When he didn't have an election to hide behind and it was all on him to govern, his ratings were brutal.

[Reck]

How old are you?

Probably not as old and fat as you. :lol

That's a plus.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dimmer, his average across his whole presidency was one of the lowest since WWII. When he didn't have an election to hide behind and it was all on him to govern, his ratings were brutal.

So what?

In the context of the lowest opinion of government in modern times its not as bad as you want it to be. Doubly so when you consider that he was at 59% leaving office as he was being compared to his replacement.

Meanwhile your GOP congress has been having the lowest approval ratings in polling history and your GOP president is doing the same.

[ElNono]

Honestly, I thought he did pretty good considering the country's general polarization, Congressional acrimony, and general un-eventfulness of his run (at least when it comes to big wars or attacks). I haven't particularly read the numbers, but I'm pretty sure Republicans probably gave him terrible numbers while Democrats the exact opposite.

I expect more of the same to follow... barring some catastrophic incident that drives the current POTUS down or an national event (like a massive attack) that solidifies support behind him. A lot of the guys at the top of the list had them.

[Reck]

I expect more of the same to follow... barring some catastrophic incident that drives the current POTUS down or an national event (like a massive attack) that solidifies support behind him. A lot of the guys at the top of the list had them.

The old chap was already in the mid 40s, having actually dipped from 45 to 40 since his inauguration. With his latest fuck ups I expect those numbers to be in the 30s or even 20s like good old Bush.

In the latest aproval polls done, more than 50% now dissaprove of how he's doing. Again, this was way before all the fuckity things he's been doing. Guy is fated not getting out of his base level of support which has always been the low 40s.

[ElNono]

Too soon to rate anything about Trump, IMO.

[Reck]

Too soon to rate anything about Trump, IMO.

Not a good sign when you've had nothing but nationwide protests since you took office though. :lol

[Chinook]

And Obama still finished worse than he started:

http://i.imgur.com/wVlt240.jpg

Just look at how those ratings plummeted when he wasn't newly-elected, campaigning or lame-duck status. :wow

I think that shows that people were unhappy with the way the country was going, but each time they saw the alternative, then came running back.

[pgardn]

Too soon to rate anything about Trump, IMO.

Oh I can rate him on ability to throw out a false narrative and numbers.

I have never witnessed such a juvenile personality given power to run something so big. North Korea comes to mind with the fat boy. But in reality, I can see Hillary being given a much harder start than Trump. This is a time for extremes and vindictiveness.