Kellyanne Conway cites ‘Bowling Green massacre’ that never happened to defend travel

[baseline bum]

Kellyanne Conway cites ‘Bowling Green massacre’ that never happened to defend travel ban
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/03/kellyanne-conway-cites-bowling-green-massacre-that-never-happened-to-defend-travel-ban/

Kellyanne Conway has taken “alternative facts” to a new level.

During a Thursday interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, the counselor to the president defended President Trump’s travel ban related to seven majority-Muslim countries. At one point, Conway made a reference to two Iraqi refugees whom she described as the masterminds behind “the Bowling Green massacre.”

“Most people don’t know that because it didn’t get covered,” Conway said.

The Bowling Green massacre didn’t get covered because it didn’t happen. There has never been a terrorist attack in Bowling Green, Ky., carried out by Iraqi refugees or anyone else.


Conway was likely referring to two Iraqi citizens living in Bowling Green who were arrested in 2011 and eventually sentenced to federal prison for attempting to send weapons and money to al-Qaeda in Iraq for the purpose of killing U.S. soldiers, according to a statement from the Justice Department.

Mohanad Shareef Hammadi, 25, was sentenced to life in federal prison. Waad Ramadan Alwan was sentenced to 31 to 40 years in federal prison, followed by a life term of supervised release. Both men pleaded guilty to federal terrorism charges.

Both men admitted having taken part in attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq, not in Bowling Green.

Here’s what the Justice Department said in a Jan. 29, 2013, statement:

Hammadi and Alwan both admitted, in FBI interviews that followed waiver of their Miranda rights, to participation in the purported material support operations in Kentucky, and both provided the FBI details of their prior involvement in insurgent activities while living in Iraq. Both men believed their activities in Kentucky were supporting AQI. Alwan admitted participating in IED attacks against U.S. soldiers in Iraq, and Hammadi admitted to participating in 10 to 11 IED attacks as well as shooting at a U.S. soldier in an observation tower.

Court documents filed in this case reveal that the Bowling Green office of the FBI’s Louisville Division initiated an investigation of Alwan in which they used a confidential human source (CHS). The CHS met with Alwan and recorded their meetings and conversations beginning in August 2010. The CHS represented to Alwan that he was working with a group to ship money and weapons to Mujahadeen in Iraq. From September 2010 through May 2011, Alwan participated in ten separate operations to send weapons and money that he believed were destined for terrorists in Iraq. Between October 2010 and January 2011, Alwan drew diagrams of multiple types of IEDs and instructed the CHS how to make them. In January 2011, Alwan recruited Hammadi, a fellow Iraqi national living in Bowling Green, to assist in these material support operations. Beginning in January 2011 and continuing until his arrest in late May 2011, Hammadi participated with Alwan in helping load money and weapons that he believed were destined for terrorists in Iraq.

Conway reiterated claims from Trump that his refugee policy is similar to “what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months.” Conway said it was “brand new information” to people that Obama enacted a “six-month ban on the Iraqi refugee program.” Breitbart also reported earlier this week that “Obama suspended Iraq refugee program for six months over terrorism fears in 2011.”

As The Washington Post reported, this was not the case. Obama administration officials told The Post that there was never a point when Iraqi resettlement was stopped or banned. In the aftermath of the arrests of the two Iraqis living in Kentucky, the Obama administration imposed more extensive background checks on Iraqi refugees, and the new screening procedures created a dramatic slowdown in visa approvals.

State Department records show there was a significant drop in refugee arrivals from Iraq in 2011, The Post’s Glenn Kessler reported. There were 18,251 in 2010, 6,339 in 2011 and 16,369 in 2012. One news report said the “pace of visa approvals” had “slowed to a crawl,” indicating some were still being approved.

Conway’s interview was by no means the first time the arrests of the two Iraqis in Bowling Green have been politicized as support for blocking refugees from reaching the United States. In December 2015, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) released a dramatic campaign video ad featuring images and video footage of the two Iraqi nationals, while criticizing then-rivals in the presidential race Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). In the 90-second ad, the faces of Waad Ramadan Alwan and Mohanad Shareef Hammadi are featured with pounding, dismal music, establishing that the men were “welcomed into America, given public housing and public assistance — as refugees.”

After Conway’s comments, “Bowling Green Massacre” was the No. 1 topic trending on Twitter, and Conway’s interview prompted many to share memories of where they were “when the Bowling Green Massacre didn’t happen.”

[Trill Clinton]

She's just pandering to her base.

[MultiTroll]

Conway was likely referring to two Iraqi citizens living in Bowling Green who were arrested in 2011 and eventually sentenced to federal prison for attempting to send weapons and money to al-Qaeda in Iraq for the purpose of killing U.S. soldiers, according to a statement from the Justice Department.

Mohanad Shareef Hammadi, 25, was sentenced to life in federal prison. Waad Ramadan Alwan was sentenced to 31 to 40 years in federal prison, followed by a life term of supervised release. Both men pleaded guilty to federal terrorism charges.

Both men admitted having taken part in attacks against U.S. troops in Iraq, not in Bowling Green.
This is it.
I wanted Bernie to dismantle the greedy corps money hoarding.
It didn't happen, but now the Trump hate is :lol

Little media tards looking to jump on any and every error.

[baseline bum]

This is it.
I wanted Bernie to dismantle the greedy corps money hoarding.
It didn't happen, but now the Trump hate is :lol

Little media tards looking to jump on any and every error.

It's not an error. This administration has shown they don't give a shit about telling boldfaced lies. Facts don't matter to them.

[MultiTroll]

It's not an error. This administration has shown they don't give a shit about telling boldfaced lies. Facts don't matter to them.
So you're saying Conway intended to scam some Bowling Green Masacre instead of a couple Radical Brainwashed who aided in Middle East.
Cmon man.

As to this administration telling lies, welcome to US and world politics since George Washington.

[Blake]

So you're saying Conway intended to scam some Bowling Green Masacre instead of a couple Radical Brainwashed who aided in Middle East.
Cmon man.

As to this administration telling lies, welcome to US and world politics since George Washington.

You don't get the point.

[MultiTroll]

Conway: I meant to say 'Bowling Green terrorists'

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conway-i-meant-to-say-bowling-green-terrorists/ar-AAmAqZQ?ocid=spartanntp

[Thread]

It's not an error. This administration has shown they don't give a shit about telling boldfaced lies. Facts don't matter to them.

You ain't gonna get shit out of it, bum. You're out of power for at least 4 years. You fell asleep and turned loose of the wheel, careened into an abutment and totaled your car.

Now, get the fuck outta the way. We've got some governin' to do and some balls to bust. Now we get to tease & torment. How does it feel, bum?

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[monosylab1k]

Conway: I meant to say 'Bowling Green terrorists'

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conway-i-meant-to-say-bowling-green-terrorists/ar-AAmAqZQ?ocid=spartanntp

Bullshit. Her exact words are "masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre". That makes zero sense if you swap massacre for terrorists.

[baseline bum]

So you're saying Conway intended to scam some Bowling Green Masacre instead of a couple Radical Brainwashed who aided in Middle East.
Cmon man.

As to this administration telling lies, welcome to US and world politics since George Washington.

This administration tells the most boldfaced lies, so her lie is par for the course and it's what to expect out of this white house until that fat orange fuck hopefully gets booted from power in 2021. Pop's 100% correct, they're a ministry of disinformation. It's like Cosmored is running the country.

[resistanze]

we

:lol There's no 'we' Cub. Your utility ended to 'them' on November 8, 2016.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, poorly worded, but I think most people knew what she meant. Chris Matthews didn't even bat an eye when she said it. :lol

[DarrinS]

So, she thinks there was a Bowling Green massacre and Trump thinks Frederick Douglas is alive and well. Got it.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, poorly worded, but I think most people knew what she meant. Chris Matthews didn't even bat an eye when she said it. :lol

"two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre"

It makes zero sense to swap massacre with terrorists. The Bowling Green terrorists were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green terrorists?

She said an absolutely ridiculous lie, and she did it because she can. She answers only to Trump and he has no problem with the bullshit spewing out of her cum dumpster of a mouth.

[Thread]

:lol There's no 'we' Cub. Your utility ended to 'them' on November 8, 2016.

No, you're thinking of when I signed up with Bush x 4. You know what though? "Was blind, but now I see."

It won't happened with Trump. We started with "we" and "we" will go shoulder-to-shoulder.

[Thread]

"two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre"

It makes zero sense to swap massacre with terrorists. The Bowling Green terrorists were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green terrorists?

She said an absolutely ridiculous lie, and she did it because she can. She answers only to Trump and he has no problem with the bullshit spewing out of her cum dumpster of a mouth.

You're on the outside of that window now, Mono. You're Jew nose pressed up against it tight. The gentiles have the con.

[cheguevara]

Why does this chicks face seem to be crumbling as the days go by? Reminds me of that movie with goldie hawn, merril Strip and Bruce Willis about those women whod crumble one day and some get better another day

Shes kinda gross and weird

[DMX7]

I'm kinda surprised she apologized. I really am. I kind of expected her to say there really was one but that the media just isn't talking about it.

[DarrinS]

"two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre"

It makes zero sense to swap massacre with terrorists. The Bowling Green terrorists were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green terrorists?

She said an absolutely ridiculous lie, and she did it because she can. She answers only to Trump and he has no problem with the bullshit spewing out of her cum dumpster of a mouth.


I guess she was trying to fool that segment of the MSNBC audience that doesn't have internet access?

[monosylab1k]

I guess she was trying to fool that segment of the MSNBC audience that doesn't have internet access?

She expected that she could say something completely false, get roasted by the opposition, then go crying about everyone ganging up on her so that her fanbase gets even more worked up, rushes to defend her, and refuses to hold her accountable for lying. She's bulletproof and she knows it and wants to rub it in people's faces.

[DarrinS]

She expected that she could say something completely false, get roasted by the opposition, then go crying about everyone ganging up on her so that her fanbase gets even more worked up, rushes to defend her, and refuses to hold her accountable for lying. She's bulletproof and she knows it and wants to rub it in people's faces.

mkay

Still weird that Matthews didn't immediately correct her. Oh well.

[Thread]

Why does this chicks face seem to be crumbling as the days go by? Reminds me of that movie with goldie hawn, merril Strip and Bruce Willis about those women whod crumble one day and some get better another day

Shes kinda gross and weird

She's 50. And she looks great after a nite's sleep and a complete makeover. Like the "Big Show" on WWE in the old days. He'd come out looking splendid. All of his shit would be above his waist. Climb in the ring, they'd ring the bell and within' 30 second the whole fuckin' thing would end up around his naval.

[Thread]

I'm kinda surprised she apologized. I really am. I kind of expected her to say there really was one but that the media just isn't talking about it.

Why not, it was a clean mistake and an easy apology. She did not have to brazen it out. Didn't cost anybody a thing.

And they can't get anybody else to go out there on CNN/MSNBC. She'll go because she realizes this is her moment. She made the team, the big time, and she ain't letting it pass by. Good for her. That realization rarely dawns on a person. That they acknowledge it and act upon it is the killing ground.

She done good. And when she fights and I'm in front of that TV? I stand. As I Tweeted her a while back= "You are not alone!"

[Thread]

mkay

Still weird that Matthews didn't immediately correct her. Oh well.

Because he is still in a state of shock over Trumps victory. He doesn't know whether to shit, or, go blind.

[Thread]

She expected that she could say something completely false, get roasted by the opposition, then go crying about everyone ganging up on her so that her fanbase gets even more worked up, rushes to defend her, and refuses to hold her accountable for lying. She's bulletproof and she knows it and wants to rub it in people's faces.

Absolutely. That's why SHE goes out there to CNN/MSNBC. She relishes the payback she deals out. She's me, Dale, only with a pussy instead of a Vienna Sausage.

Only difference twixt us and Donald Trump...what is it? Use your fucking heads:::it's the money. That's it and that's all.

[cheguevara]

She's 50. And she looks great after a nite's sleep and a complete makeover. Like the "Big Show" on WWE in the old days. He'd come out looking splendid. All of his shit would be above his waist. Climb in the ring, they'd ring the bell and within' 30 second the whole fuckin' thing would end up around his naval.

Yeah looks like her weekly makeovers include botox injections and the whole premium package.

I guess its kinda gross she wears those clothes that expose her mummified rotting parts. Not a fan of that stuff

[Chris]

Clearly Kellyanne was trying to pull a fast one and dupe all of America. Thank God we have the left to do fact checking and clean up. How many years in prison should she get OP?

[Thread]

Yeah looks like her weekly makeovers include botox injections and the whole premium package.

I guess its kinda gross she wears those clothes that expose her mummified rotting parts. Not a fan of that stuff

Of course not. But, you ain't female. We age different. We age better. Women aren't blessed that way.

But, right now, this minute she owns it. And she knows it. That's rare when a human can find themselves exactly where they want to be in a given sequence of time. I don't grudge her that like I didn't grudge that Josh Ernest fellow, Barry's press briefer. I hated his content, but, he had the position there and he was in awe of it and blessed to have achieved it. I find that absolutely beautiful.

[Thread]

Of course not. But, you ain't female. We age different. We age better. Women aren't blessed that way.

But, right now, this minute she owns it. And she knows it. That's rare when a human can find themselves exactly where they want to be in a given sequence of time. I don't grudge her that like I didn't grudge that Josh Ernest fellow, Barry's press briefer. I hated his content, but, he had the position there and he was in awe of it and blessed to have achieved it. I find that absolutely beautiful.

ADDENDUM:::And is she in over her head? Yes. You can see it as she makes her fight. She's fast, too fast, but, she holds the line that she's marked. It's a tenuous hold and her adversaries know it there on CNN/MSNBC. So, they come hard at her, trying to get her to break, to take a fit. But, she'll go out there when all the others refuse. And she doesn't just frequent the soft seats at FOX and the others. I hate those interviews. I feel sick to my stomach as the soft balls are tossed in. But, when does CNN/MSNBC it's her stretching herself, making the good fight, so that when someday as she readies to go on into the dust that is always end, she'll enter her house justified.

[DarrinS]

Clearly Kellyanne was trying to pull a fast one and dupe all of America. Thank God we have the left to do fact checking and clean up. How many years in prison should she get OP?

:lol

[Blake]

Clearly Kellyanne was trying to pull a fast one and dupe all of America. Thank God we have the left to do fact checking and clean up. How many years in prison should she get OP?

Thank god we have Conservatives to clear things up with the real alternative facts

[Spurminator]

I mean, you guys know it's okay to say, "I'm glad Trump is the President and I don't regret my vote, but Kellyanne Conway is kind of full of shit," right?

Like, it's okay. You won't lose points.

[Chris]

Thank god we have Conservatives to clear things up with the real alternative facts

We have alternative facts coming from both sides. The swamp is all inclusive.

[Blake]

We have alternative facts coming from both sides. The swamp is all inclusive.

We have Kellyanne Conway coining the term "alternative facts"

[DarrinS]

If she was trying to create a false narrative, she sucks at it. You have to go on multiple interviews and say the same lie, e.g. Susan Rice with the "offensive YouTube video caused Benghazi" nonsense.

[baseline bum]

If she was trying to create a false narrative, she sucks at it. You have to go on multiple interviews and say the same lie, e.g. Susan Rice with the "offensive YouTube video caused Benghazi" nonsense.

Just like Trump sucks at creating false narratives saying he really won the popular vote or having Spicer announce he had the most attended inauguration ever, but he still does it. And then the right cheerleads and wants to pretend like this is all normal. It's not. Trump doesn't care if the shit he says is a straight lie and easily debunked, just like he didn't when he was on his birther crap or claiming Ted Cruz's dad was behind killing Kennedy. But hey, he is angry and it's emotionally satisfying for Republican voters.

[Trill Clinton]

Wow, I just heard Frederick Douglas was a victim in the bowling Green massacre.

[DarrinS]

Just like Trump sucks at creating false narratives saying he really won the popular vote or having Spicer announce he had the most attended inauguration ever, ...

I'd probably agree with you about those two things, but this was about the Bowling Green massacre.

To me, it just seems like she f'ed up her talking points.

[baseline bum]

I'd probably agree with you about those two things, but this was about the Bowling Green massacre.

To me, it just seems like she f'ed up her talking points.

It's pretty consistent for those talking points to be fucked on purpose.

[Chris]

We have Kellyanne Conway coining the term "alternative facts"

It's a ridiculous term we can agree on that.

[DarrinS]

It's pretty consistent for those talking points to be fucked on purpose.

Ok

[baseline bum]

Ok

This is the guy who said over and over that Hillary was the founder of ISIS.

[Blake]

Trump krew: 2+2=5

Media: uh we checked and 2+2=4

Tk: no no it's our alternative facts. Again, 2+2=5.

Media: wut? Please explain.

Tk: FAKE NEWS! You're out to get us!

[da_suns_fan]

She probably just learned the talking point and fucked it up.

Passing the ban was just to appease their base. They dont actually have a reason for doing it.

[Thread]

She probably just learned the talking point and fucked it up.

Exactly.

[Thread]

Information is sometimes not welcome. I want her to be dropped into the Trump campaign from like God, pure and driven like snow. Instead extraneous information is now in my gourd that she'd been with many campaigns.

That's life though.

[vy65]

I'd probably agree with you about those two things, but this was about the Bowling Green massacre.

To me, it just seems like she f'ed up her talking points.

This administration is not entitled to the benefit of the doubt

[ElNono]

What's kinda amazing to me is that some people think these people are credible in the slightest.

I did understand people rolling eyes when Shillary would go and say "I always been against the TPP". She was never credible.

That's why I don't get some people defending this stuff, or agent Orange "best inauguration ever", etc. I mean, I get it from the rah-rah standpoint, but you're not really buying any of it, right?

[Splits]

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[Splits]

What's kinda amazing to me is that some people think these people are credible in the slightest.

I did understand people rolling eyes when Shillary would go and say "I always been against the TPP". She was never credible.

That's why I don't get some people defending this stuff, or agent Orange "best inauguration ever", etc. I mean, I get it from the rah-rah standpoint, but you're not really buying any of it, right?

you don't understand the right's governing philosophy

1) piss off liberals
2) cut taxes for the wealthy

so yes, they're "buying" it

[CosmicCowboy]

You know, Everyone in here is probably smarter than the average bear and it's really easy to retroactively criticize those people that have a microphone in their face every waking minute...honestly I can't imagine having that kind of pressure. Can you?

[Adam Lambert]

You know, Everyone in here is probably smarter than the average bear and it's really easy to retroactively criticize those people that have a microphone in their face every waking minute...honestly I can't imagine having that kind of pressure. Can you?

you're right, lying constantly in front of millions of people on behalf of some of the most corrupt assholes on the planet is a lot of pressure. most people with any sense or dignity would probably quit but not conway and spicer, they are completely cool with being shit receptacles

[ElNono]

You know, Everyone in here is probably smarter than the average bear and it's really easy to retroactively criticize those people that have a microphone in their face every waking minute...honestly I can't imagine having that kind of pressure. Can you?

I don't know, what's the pay? I mean, I take on a shitload of stress and pressure on a daily basis, but I'm hauling the greenbacks, so it all works out. I'm sure they get some sort of payoff (monetary or otherwise), or they probably would be doing something else.

Frankly, I consider the guy that lives paycheck to paycheck to have way more pressure than that.

[monosylab1k]

You know, Everyone in here is probably smarter than the average bear and it's really easy to retroactively criticize those people that have a microphone in their face every waking minute...honestly I can't imagine having that kind of pressure. Can you?
They're in those positions because they're supposed to be qualified and capable of handling the pressure. Not because they gargled Trump's balls adequately.

[spurraider21]

What's kinda amazing to me is that some people think these people are credible in the slightest.

I did understand people rolling eyes when Shillary would go and say "I always been against the TPP". She was never credible.

That's why I don't get some people defending this stuff, or agent Orange "best inauguration ever", etc. I mean, I get it from the rah-rah standpoint, but you're not really buying any of it, right?
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[monosylab1k]

If Matt Ryan throws 6 interceptions on Sunday, he deserves a free pass because ":cry I can't imagine having that kind of pressure. Can you? :cry"

[Adam Lambert]

the excuse making by republifags knows no bounds

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't know, what's the pay? I mean, I take on a shitload of stress and pressure on a daily basis, but I'm hauling the greenbacks, so it all works out. I'm sure they get some sort of payoff (monetary or otherwise), or they probably would be doing something else.

Frankly, I consider the guy that lives paycheck to paycheck to have way more pressure than that.

I have a stressful job too and yeah I get paid for it. Probably more than Conway makes. I just think having every sentence you speak analyzed and critiqued at that level must suck.

[CosmicCowboy]

the excuse making by republifags knows no bounds

Shut up and flip those fries, faggot. The adults are talking.

[DD]

Indefensibly stupid

[monosylab1k]

I have a stressful job too and yeah I get paid for it. Probably more than Conway makes. I just think having every sentence you speak analyzed and critiqued at that level must suck.

:cry you're right, it must suck :cry

[Adam Lambert]

Shut up and flip those fries, faggot. The adults are talking.

lol ive never been in an adult conversation where anyone made "so much pressure" excuses for people who literally rule the country and lie every day. if i ever found myself in that kind of conversation you can be damn sure id throw food in their faces.

[ElNono]

I have a stressful job too and yeah I get paid for it. Probably more than Conway makes. I just think having every sentence you speak analyzed and critiqued at that level must suck.

It might, but it comes with the territory, honestly. They also get a lot of pluses for it, like being surrounded by powerful people, their 20 mins of fame, a book deal, free plastic surgery (lol), etc.

I'm pretty sure they're in a position where they wouldn't be doing that if they didn't want to. It's much different than the people that have to do things whether they want to or not.

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[SnakeBoy]

This topic is as important as Obama thinking there were 57 states. Turnabout is fair play though.

[Mitch]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM220XCGypQ

[DMC]

She's just pandering to her base.

Bend over, I'll show you pandering to the base.

[DMC]

the excuse making by republifags knows no bounds
ST Alt-troll "Donald said something stupid... lol"
Donald - Removes another law

ST Alt-troll "lol Conway said something stupid..."

Donald - builds border wall

St Alt-troll "lol Bannon is a fascist"

Donald - Neuters a gun law and Obamacare in the same day

You guys are winning.. keep it up fuckstick :lol

[Adam Lambert]

ST Alt-troll "Donald said something stupid... lol"
Donald - Removes another law

ST Alt-troll "lol Conway said something stupid..."

Donald - builds border wall

St Alt-troll "lol Bannon is a fascist"

Donald - Neuters a gun law and Obamacare in the same day

You guys are winning.. keep it up fuckstick :lol

fuck youre right if only we'd focused more we could have done something about the executive orders

guys we need a new strategy, this one isnt working

[Th'Pusher]

ST Alt-troll "Donald said something stupid... lol"
Donald - Removes another law

ST Alt-troll "lol Conway said something stupid..."

Donald - builds border wall

St Alt-troll "lol Bannon is a fascist"

Donald - Neuters a gun law and Obamacare in the same day

You guys are winning.. keep it up fuckstick :lol

Someone doesn't understand how executive orders work.

[Th'Pusher]

fuck youre right if only we'd focused more we could have done something about the executive orders

guys we need a new strategy, this one isnt working

:tu beat me to it in a more snarky way...

[Blake]

:cry you're right, it must suck :cry

Lol

[Blake]

This topic is as important as Obama thinking there were 57 states. Turnabout is fair play though.

Because Obama wanted us to think there were 57 states.

[DMX7]

Why not, it was a clean mistake and an easy apology. She did not have to brazen it out. Didn't cost anybody a thing.

And they can't get anybody else to go out there on CNN/MSNBC. She'll go because she realizes this is her moment. She made the team, the big time, and she ain't letting it pass by. Good for her. That realization rarely dawns on a person. That they acknowledge it and act upon it is the killing ground.

She done good. And when she fights and I'm in front of that TV? I stand. As I Tweeted her a while back= "You are not alone!"

It's one thing to misspeak. It's another thing to "accidently" say something that just happens to be perfectly consistent with the ridiculous dystopian narrative she peddles.

[Thread]

It's one thing to misspeak. It's another thing to "accidently" say something that just happens to be perfectly consistent with your dystopian narrative she peddles.

Kinda like "accidently" missing MLK's rock head bust where it had taken root for months.

[DMX7]

Because Obama wanted us to think there were 57 states.

As you point out, there was no political benefit to saying there were 57 states. But Conway's alternative fact was intended to reinforce her political point in the interview.

[DMX7]

Kinda like "accidently" missing MLK's rock head bust where it had taken root for months.

The reporter was looking to create a controversy. I won't defend that reporter.

[DMC]

fuck youre right if only we'd focused more we could have done something about the executive orders

guys we need a new strategy, this one isnt working

You should burn some generators, smoke some weed and wear some black masks and hoodies. That will change things.

[Thread]

The reporter was looking to create a controversy. I won't defend that reporter.

In Conway's case I don't believe she tried to create a controversy. She just got flummoxed and made a mistake. She dances on the edge of (mistake) a lot as she makes her fight(s). I see it and every time she halts just short of mistake I thank my lucky stars. This time she was not as fortunate and crossed the line. She's not seasoned and CNN/MSNBC knows that and ventures to take advantage. She'll take on seasoning and she'll learn.

[DMC]

Someone doesn't understand how executive orders work.

It's not Donald.

[DMX7]

In Conway's case I don't believe she tried to create a controversy. She just got flummoxed and made a mistake. She dances on the edge of (mistake) a lot as she makes her fight(s). I see it and every time she halts just short of mistake I thank my lucky stars. This time she was not as fortunate and crossed the line. She's not seasoned and CNN/MSNBC knows that and ventures to take advantage. She'll take on seasoning and she'll learn.

She's extraordinarily seasoned. This kind of thing is literally part of her job.

[Adam Lambert]

You should burn some generators, smoke some weed and wear some black masks and hoodies. That will change things.

no what actually works is walking into a movie theater or a black church and killing as many people as possible

[Thread]

She's extraordinarily seasoned. This kind of thing is literally part of her job.

I never saw her on television once until she sided Trump.

[Adam Lambert]

I never saw her on television once until she sided Trump.

here's a fun one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlJ3UoDuzs

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here's a fun one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlJ3UoDuzs

Don't be obtuse, you know what I'm talking about.

[DMX7]

lol, won't show his tax returns. :lol

[Adam Lambert]

Don't be obtuse, you know what I'm talking about.

oh, sorry, was it this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjPfljy0BzQ

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YRlJ3UoDuzs

Fuck me. Obviously the romantic in me got me again.

Of course I envisioned an entire scope to Kellyanne siding Trump.

What can I say?

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oh, sorry, was it this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjPfljy0BzQ

I capitulate.

[Blake]

She's not seasoned and CNN/MSNBC knows that and ventures to take advantage. She'll take on seasoning and she'll learn.

Yeah I'm not giving a person in her position a season pass

[boutons_deux]

Kellyanne Goebbels Reportedly Involved In Fist Fight At Inaugural Ball (http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/kellyanne-conway-reportedly-involved-fist)

Gasparino wrote on his Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/charles.gasparino.7/posts/10212183089111108?pnref=story) that "inside the ball we see a fight between two guys in tuxes and then suddenly out of nowhere came trump adviser Kellyanne Conway who began throwing some mean punches at one of the guys."

"Whole thing lasted a few mins no one was hurt except maybe the dude she smacked. Now I know why trump hired her."

The New York Daily News reports (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/kellyanne-conway-allegedly-punched-man-inauguration-ball-article-1.2953968?cid=bitly) that the incident took place at the Liberty Ball, where

"Conway apparently punched one of them in the face with closed fists at least three times, according to stunned onlookers."

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/01/kellyanne-conway-reportedly-involved-fist?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im

[boutons_deux]

OMG too good! New Yorkers hold vigil for Bowling Green Massacre AT Bowling Green (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/3/1629773/-OMG-too-good-New-Yorkers-hold-vigil-for-Bowling-Green-Massacre-AT-Bowling-Green)

In lower Manhattan, at the very bottom of the island, there’s a small, fenced-in park that dates to colonial times. It is in fact the oldest public park in New York City, and it shares a name with a subway stop on the busy 4 and 5 lines.

It is called Bowling Green (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Green_(New_York_City)).

And on Friday night, some truly brilliant and marvelous New Yorkers put it to extremely good use (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-yorkers-hold-vigil-bowling-green-massacre-victims-article-1.2963989):

“We’re commemorating the victims of Bowling Green,” said Chris Bauer as he stifled a smile. “It never happened so they were never commemorated.”

Bauer and a handful of others stood near the Lower Manhattan park, holding signs and shouting, “We all are Bowling Green, never remember never forget.”


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/02/04/1629773/-OMG-too-good-New-Yorkers-hold-vigil-for-Bowling-Green-Massacre-AT-Bowling-Green?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

Sick of winning? sick of laughing! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Creepy Ann Goebbels needs a safe space

Kellyanne Conway lashes out at ‘haters’ who won’t let ‘Bowling Green Massacre’ story die

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/kellyanne-conway-lashes-out-at-haters-who-wont-let-bowling-green-massacre-story-die/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Will she learn? The last few weeks say: NO! :lol

[baseline bum]

You sure do like to misrepresent my positions. Here's a good summary of me if it doesn't get deleted.
http://well-temperedforum.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9130004433/m/6371082656/p/1

Son it's like peas in a pod. You're both fatasses spewing conspiracy theories about everything. Trump has made you mainstream now, enjoy your success.

[cd021]

Conway: I meant to say 'Bowling Green terrorists'

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conway-i-meant-to-say-bowling-green-terrorists/ar-AAmAqZQ?ocid=spartanntp
How do you say Massacre-a word that is seldom used- instead of terrorists?
She's full of shit.

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How do you say Massacre-a word that is seldom used- instead of terrorists?
She's full of shit.

You're being anal.

[cd021]

You're being anal.

Not really. Using the term Massacre seems as calculated and on brand as saying "American Carnage". Once it became the laughing stock it did she attempted to say that she meant to say "Terrorist". For as many times "Terrorist" gets used it seems hard to believe that she would make that gaffe. The problem is that she's lied so much that even if it was a gaffe, then she doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

[benefactor]

You're being anal.
Bend over, I'll be anal

[DMC]

no what actually works is walking into a movie theater or a black church and killing as many people as possible

Why a black church? Are you condoning the killing of black people?

[boutons_deux]

Kellyanne Conway was making the 'Bowling Green massacre' a go-to lie before she got called on it (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/6/1630536/-Kellyanne-Conway-was-making-Bowling-Green-massacre-a-go-to-lie-before-she-got-called-on-it)

it turns out she misspoke that exact way twice (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8674035/kellyanne-conway-bowling-green-massacre-repeat/):

"He did [call for a temporary ban on Iraqi refugees], it’s a fact," she said of Obama.

"Why did he do that? He did that for exactly the same reasons.

He did that because two Iraqi nationals came to this country, joined ISIS, traveled back to the Middle East to get trained and refine their terrorism skills and come back here and

were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre of taking innocent soldiers' lives away."

Conway was referencing the case of two Iraqi men, Mohanad Shareef Hammadi and Waad Ramadan Alwan, who entered the U.S. under the guise of refugees in 2009 and were arrested in 2011 in Bowling Green, Kentucky, on charges related to terrorism.

But when Cosmopolitan.com reached out to the FBI to verify details of Conway’s account,

a spokesman wrote in an email that “a couple of your facts seem incorrect” :lol and

provided a link to a Justice Department press release (https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/louisville/press-releases/2013/former-iraqi-terrorists-living-in-kentucky-sentenced-for-terrorist-activities), which, he said, “outlines all the public information and timeline.”


What details? Basically all of them.

The two men in question were radicalized before coming to the United States.

They did not travel back to the Middle East after arriving here, according to records of the case.

Obama did not ban Iraqi refugees, though he had tens of thousands of them rescreened and temporarily toughened the visa process.

And, of course, describing things the men did in Iraq as “the Bowling Green massacre” is calculated to frighten Americans by suggesting that Iraqis are coming to the U.S. and massacring people. These don’t have to have been good guys for this to be yet another Kellyanne Conway lie.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/02/06/1630536/-Kellyanne-Conway-was-making-Bowling-Green-massacre-a-go-to-lie-before-she-got-called-on-it?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

"taking innocent soldiers' lives away" where did they take them to? :lol

This fucking "JD with honors" lawyer hasn't mastered idiomatic English

[boutons_deux]

Conway Cited Non-Existent 'Bowling Green Massacre' More Than Once


White House adviser Kellyanne Conway claimed she “misspoke one word (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/04/conway-says-misspoke-on-iraqi-terrorists-calls-some-critics-haters.html)” when she referenced the non-existent “Bowling Green massacre (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-bowling-green-massacre)” in an interview last Thursday. However, she referenced the same event in an interview days earlier with Cosmopolitan.

Though Cosmopolitan never used the senior White House adviser’s claims in two published (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8626496/kellyanne-conway-muslim-ban-refugees/) stories (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8648002/kellyanne-conway-interview-career/), the magazine reported Monday (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8674035/kellyanne-conway-bowling-green-massacre-repeat/),

Conway referenced a “Bowling Green massacre” over the phone with a Cosmopolitan journalist days before being called on the same error in a television interview.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-referenced-bowling-green-massacre-more-than-once?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[cd021]

Conway Cited Non-Existent 'Bowling Green Massacre' More Than Once


White House adviser Kellyanne Conway claimed she “misspoke one word (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/04/conway-says-misspoke-on-iraqi-terrorists-calls-some-critics-haters.html)” when she referenced the non-existent “Bowling Green massacre (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-bowling-green-massacre)” in an interview last Thursday. However, she referenced the same event in an interview days earlier with Cosmopolitan.

Though Cosmopolitan never used the senior White House adviser’s claims in two published (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8626496/kellyanne-conway-muslim-ban-refugees/) stories (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8648002/kellyanne-conway-interview-career/), the magazine reported Monday (http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8674035/kellyanne-conway-bowling-green-massacre-repeat/),

Conway referenced a “Bowling Green massacre” over the phone with a Cosmopolitan journalist days before being called on the same error in a television interview.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-referenced-bowling-green-massacre-more-than-once?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

:lol and people thought she made a slip. Massacre is a very specific word, one that is seldom used. She choose that word specifically.

[Adam Lambert]

Why a black church? Are you condoning the killing of black people?

its the only example we have historically.
though you're probably right that someone killing a bunch of people at a white church would change things a lot more quickly and drastically. especially if you could get a black dude or a muslim dude to do it. can you imagine what team bannon would sign off in the week after something like that? holy shit we might even get our own version of the purge

[DMC]

its the only example we have historically.
though you're probably right that someone killing a bunch of people at a white church would change things a lot more quickly and drastically. especially if you could get a black dude or a muslim dude to do it. can you imagine what team bannon would sign off in the week after something like that? holy shit we might even get our own version of the purge

Really? No one ever went into a building and killed other people? How about Sandy Hook? How about the 5 police officers killed in Dallas? How about the Orlando nightclub shooting? How about the California shooting? What about the truck ramming the crowd in Paris or the concert shooting? Is the black church really all you could think of? If so, that explains that shitty alt.

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Really? No one ever went into a building and killed other people? How about Sandy Hook? How about the 5 police officers killed in Dallas? How about the Orlando nightclub shooting? How about the California shooting? What about the truck ramming the crowd in Paris or the concert shooting? Is the black church really all you could think of? If so, that explains that shitty alt.

D M C

[Adam Lambert]

Really? No one ever went into a building and killed other people? How about Sandy Hook? How about the 5 police officers killed in Dallas? How about the Orlando nightclub shooting? How about the California shooting? What about the truck ramming the crowd in Paris or the concert shooting? Is the black church really all you could think of? If so, that explains that shitty alt.

bitch you know we were talking about church shootings don't come at me with that redirection bullshit, you're the worst arguer ever

[Adam Lambert]

no what actually works is walking into a movie theater or a black church and killing as many people as possible


Why a black church? Are you condoning the killing of black people?


its the only example we have historically.
though you're probably right that someone killing a bunch of people at a white church would change things a lot more quickly and drastically. especially if you could get a black dude or a muslim dude to do it. can you imagine what team bannon would sign off in the week after something like that? holy shit we might even get our own version of the purge


Really? No one ever went into a building and killed other people? How about Sandy Hook? How about the 5 police officers killed in Dallas? How about the Orlando nightclub shooting? How about the California shooting? What about the truck ramming the crowd in Paris or the concert shooting? Is the black church really all you could think of? If so, that explains that shitty alt.

i bring up movie theater and black church shootings as specific examples of shootings, you make some retard racebait joke, i respond to the racebait joke, you change the subject

you been rubbing it out to kellyanne every night and picking up her communication skills? the fuck is wrong with you

[Killakobe81]

This administration tells the most boldfaced lies, so her lie is par for the course and it's what to expect out of this white house until that fat orange fuck hopefully gets booted from power in 2021. Pop's 100% correct, they're a ministry of disinformation. It's like Cosmored is running the country.

Bum's Bruin education shining it's light doing us proud!
One thing I will give true conservatives ...is focusing on smaller issues and mistakes helps no one on either side.
But Bum is right the blatant lies and alternative facts bullshit is ridiculous. The Emperor has no clothes but his blind supporters don't see it or won't tell him even if they did ...
Liberals need to stop acting like they have ALL the answers.

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Bum's Bruin education shining it's light doing us proud!
One thing I will give true conservatives ...is focusing on smaller issues and mistakes helps no one on either side.
But Bum is right the blatant lies and alternative facts bullshit is ridiculous. The Emperor has no clothes but his blind supporters don't see it or won't tell him even if they did ...
Liberals need to stop acting like they have ALL the answers.

Your Emperor lied as well, Killa. You got nary room.

[Killakobe81]

Your Emperor lied as well, Killa. You got nary room.

He wasn't mine I did vote for him in 2008 but abstained in 2012
For personal issues I had with some of his policy. You keep lumping me with the black middle class or far left ..I am neither. I was born here in the US both my parents migrated here after Civil Rights so the pains suffered by people of color are not scars that my family faced ...I am not party loyal but like Kool I am a humanitarian first. A proud Belizean-American ...who is ashamed of the state of this country even before Trump took office...however in just a little over aweek's time he has made us look worse

[DMC]

i bring up movie theater and black church shootings as specific examples of shootings, you make some retard racebait joke, i respond to the racebait joke, you change the subject

you been rubbing it out to kellyanne every night and picking up her communication skills? the fuck is wrong with you

You said it was actually working. That seems pretty stupid.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

. A proud Belizean-American ...who is ashamed of the state of this country even before Trump took office...however in just a little over aweek's time he has made us look worse

Are you like a mainland Jamaican, do you speak with a British accent?

[Killakobe81]

Are you like a mainland Jamaican, do you speak with a British accent?

Nah bruh I was born in Brooklyn, raised in California who now lives in Texas ...I sound like a white man tbh when im in corporate mode.The recruiter at my job ...says since my first and last name seem white and I sounded white in the phone screen (she is a Baylor grad black woman) she thought I was white. She only felt comfortable to tell me this after I had been here 2 years ...
I'm always asked if I'm mixed with white ...(more Spanish than anything but my dad's folks are dark) and I have been asked many times if I speak Spanish by Spanish speakers.

All this to say I am not easily defined by my accent, skin tone or even name. My last name is of irish/Scottish descent and my mom named me after my dad's favorite baseball player ...a white guy. I am not consumed by race ...but respect it and realize it is a problem in this country

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Nah bruh I was born in Brooklyn, raised in California who now lives in Texas ...I sound like a white man tbh when im in corporate mode.The recruiter at my job ...says since my first and last name seem white and I sounded white in the phone screen (she is a Baylor grad black woman) she thought I was white. She only felt comfortable to tell me this after I had been here 2 years ...
I'm always asked if I'm mixed with white ...(more Spanish than anything but my dad's folks are dark) and I have been asked many times if I speak Spanish by Spanish speakers.

All this to say I am not easily defined by my accent, skin tone or even name. My last name is of irish/Scottish descent and my mom named me after my dad's favorite baseball player ...a white guy. I am not consumed by race ...but respect it an realize it is a problem in this country


I always figured you for a regular white fellow, mid-late 20's, single, with a regular job.

[Killakobe81]

I always figured you for a regular white fellow, mid-late 20's, single, with a regular job.

Nah brother I'm way past 30 now with 40 only a couple car lengths ahead ...how else would I have known the joy of showtime?

[Adam Lambert]

You said it was actually working. That seems pretty stupid.

and i actually totally meant that and wasn't actually just sarcastically responding to your stupid unrelated comment about rioters.

if i'm a rioter then youre dylan roof. do u see? do u see?

i now await your next completely unrelated response

[DMC]

and i actually totally meant that and wasn't actually just sarcastically responding to your stupid unrelated comment about rioters.

if i'm a rioter then youre dylan roof. do u see? do u see?

i now await your next completely unrelated response

Ok, so why would you say killing black church goers is a good thing? I get the alt shit but the racist schtick is played out on here.

[Adam Lambert]

Ok, so why would you say killing black church goers is a good thing? I get the alt shit but the racist schtick is played out on here.

i

wait, do you not know what happened in charleston????

lol fuck now this entire confusing conversation makes sense

go read and come back at me when you're caught up on the world

[DMC]

i

wait, do you not know what happened in charleston????

lol fuck now this entire confusing conversation makes sense

go read and come back at me when you're caught up on the world

Of course I know. I just don't get why you think it fixes anything to kill them. Do you think it rallies the blacks? Seems pretty extreme to think killing innocent people is a fix. Sounds like something a Muslim jihadist would say.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imKdxHCaCds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imKdxHCaCds

Bouts, I left ya a post over there.

[Winehole23]

"In memory of all those who died"

May their souls and their families find peace.