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FuzzyLumpkins
02-07-2017, 06:22 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-sheriff-asset-forfeiture-texas-234740

President Donald Trump invited the sheriff of a small Texas County to “destroy” the career of a state senator who sought to ban a controversial law enforcement practice by naming the lawmaker during a White House meeting.

At a listening session with county sheriffs from around the country, Trump invited the sheriffs seated in the White House’s Roosevelt Room to make a statement while reporters were present. Rockwall County, Texas, Sheriff Harold Eavenson spoke up first to discuss asset forfeiture, a practice by which law enforcement can seize the cash and property of individuals suspected of committing a crime without a guilty verdict.

Proponents of the practice argue that allows law enforcement to effectively combat terrorism and the drug trade, while opponents, including some conservatives, argue that it allows police to seize assets without due process. Trump’s predecessor, former President Barack Obama, sought to rein in an asset sharing program by which local law enforcement were given a share of whatever assets they seized.

“On asset forfeiture, we’ve got a state senator in Texas that was talking about introducing legislation to require conviction before we could receive that forfeiture money,” Eavenson said.

“Can you believe that?” Trump interjected.

“And I told him that the cartel would build a monument to him in Mexico if he could get that legislation passed,” the Texas sheriff continued.

“Who is the state senator? Do you want to give his name? We’ll destroy his career,” Trump replied, presumably suggesting that the lawmaker would suffer for holding a position contrary to the president’s.

The president’s remark elicited laughter from those gathered in the Roosevelt Room, although the president did not join in. Eavenson did not offer the Texas state senator’s name, and the public information officer for the Rockwall County sheriff's office declined to name the lawmaker in question.

Texas state Sen. Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, a Democrat who introduced civil asset forfeiture legislation last November, told the Texas Tribune on Tuesday that he did not believe Eavenson was referring to him with his remark at the White House because he had never met the sheriff and had never spoken with him. The chief of staff for state Sen, Konni Burton, a Republican who introduced civil asset forfeiture legislation in December and whose district is relatively close to Eavenson's Rockwall County, did not return POLITICO's request for a comment.

SnakeBoy
02-07-2017, 06:33 PM
Shocking scary stuff!

boutons_deux
02-07-2017, 06:36 PM
3rd time this is posted.

law enforcement, DAs, prosecutors have perverted incentives to lock people up. Outright theft, aka A/F, is a big one.

TheSanityAnnex
02-07-2017, 06:58 PM
3rd time this is posted.
he's got half the forum posters on ignore so he probably thinks he's the first to post it

FuzzyLumpkins
02-07-2017, 07:23 PM
Yoni the supposed libertarian now doesn't give a shit about asset forfeiture..

And boutox, it being buried in one of your spam threads does not constitute a post.

Blake
02-07-2017, 07:52 PM
Shocking scary stuff!

You're stupid if you think it's not

Thread
02-07-2017, 08:10 PM
he's got half the forum posters on ignore so he probably thinks he's the first to post it

This

Nbadan
02-07-2017, 08:21 PM
This

:lol

Thread
02-07-2017, 08:24 PM
:lol

& I invented This

Me

SnakeBoy
02-07-2017, 08:55 PM
You're stupid if you think it's not

I just said it was. I'm as scared as you. It's scary and shocking.

ElNono
02-07-2017, 08:56 PM
Shocking scary stuff!

Neither shocking nor scary. There's a thread about asset forfeiture going on here for a long time, with good discussion.

The only 'revelation' here is the disconnect between the sheriff and the actual documented abuse by PDs of that system.

Now, it's entirely possible that 'conviction' is stretching it too far, but at least 'indictment' should be a line to cross before actual forfeiture. Currently, you don't even need to be charged with an offense to get civil forfeiture going, and that's just wrong.

Mitch
02-07-2017, 09:38 PM
he's got half the forum posters on ignore so he probably thinks he's the first to post it

Wouldn't expect any less from an autistic chickenshit like that, tbh.

DMC
02-07-2017, 09:50 PM
Wouldn't expect any less from an autistic chickenshit like that, tbh.

It's all those scripts you're running.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-07-2017, 09:59 PM
Wouldn't expect any less from an autistic chickenshit like that, tbh.

Nice psychobabble. I put people on ignore that spam. It's basically DMC, TSA, and a couple m>s accounts.

Mitch
02-07-2017, 10:20 PM
Nice psychobabble. I put people on ignore that spam. It's basically DMC, TSA, and a couple m>s accounts.

Tbh, you seem like the kind of chump that just ignores people who don't want to argue with your autistic ass.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-08-2017, 12:35 AM
Tbh, you seem like the kind of chump that just ignores people who don't want to argue with your autistic ass.

All of you will argue if you think you can win. Else for some of you it is as you are doing now where you either make up professions or psychobabble for me. You really like to repeat yourself like an idiot.

It's funny as hell watching you guys strut and circle jerk when you win a point of fact on me like you have accomplished something though.

DMC
02-08-2017, 01:36 AM
Loquaciousness: That would be garrulousness, verboseness, effusiveness. How about "chattiness"?


A predilection by the intelligentsia to engage in the manifestation of prolix exposition through a buzzword disposition form of communication notwithstanding the availability of more comprehensible, punctiliously applicable, diminutive alternatives. Also known as "gross verbosity". Related to this is the use of inkhorn terms, loanwords from a foreign origin that are pretentious to an average speaker.
In brief: "smart" characters using long words when short ones would be better, especially when they are also motor mouths. Characters afflicted with this trait often seem to go out of their way to over-complicate their speech, probably because writers think that this is the only way to show that someone is more intelligent than the average writer. This could also be the trait of a particularly anal-retentive character who always has to be right, the trait extending so far that the character always has to use exactly the right word — never using "blue" when "azure" or "indigo" or even "royal blue" would be more accurate, for example.

Mitch
02-08-2017, 01:40 AM
All of you will argue if you think you can win. Else for some of you it is as you are doing now where you either make up professions or psychobabble for me. You really like to repeat yourself like an idiot.

It's funny as hell watching you guys strut and circle jerk when you win a point of fact on me like you have accomplished something though.

Lucky we don't live in Nazi Germany, Fuzztard - or you would be on the chopping block

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Cost-60k-Reichsmark-.jpg

Winehole23
02-08-2017, 01:44 AM
How is it that giving police a free hand to take your money and your car -- and whatever else they care to take -- possibly without ever pressing charges, on bare suspicion of wrongdoing, is a good idea?

FuzzyLumpkins
02-08-2017, 09:18 AM
Lucky we don't live in Nazi Germany, Fuzztard - or you would be on the chopping block

http://www.naturalnews.com/images/Cost-60k-Reichsmark-.jpg

:lol So you make up stories about your enemies so they can be done in by you fictional fascist utopia. Our resident sociopathic nitwit. How droll.

boutons_deux
02-08-2017, 09:23 AM
How is it that giving police a free hand to take your money and your car -- and whatever else they care to take -- possibly without ever pressing charges, on bare suspicion of wrongdoing, is a good idea?

#BlueLivesMagaritaMachinesMatter

Blake
02-08-2017, 11:06 AM
Neither shocking nor scary. There's a thread about asset forfeiture going on here for a long time, with good discussion.

The only 'revelation' here is the disconnect between the sheriff and the actual documented abuse by PDs of that system.

Now, it's entirely possible that 'conviction' is stretching it too far, but at least 'indictment' should be a line to cross before actual forfeiture. Currently, you don't even need to be charged with an offense to get civil forfeiture going, and that's just wrong.

You're right it's not shocking. It should be scary, but I guess we're all desensitized.

boutons_deux
02-08-2017, 11:14 AM
Trash threatening to destroy a Repug STATE politician for proposing a bill should scare everyone, but of course, Trash fellators enjoy blissfully blind ignorance.

AaronY
02-08-2017, 10:36 PM
Excellent debate

spurraider21
02-09-2017, 02:53 AM
Excellent debateclassic

ElNono
02-09-2017, 03:04 AM
You're right it's not shocking. It should be scary, but I guess we're all desensitized.

IMO, it would be scary if there would be no conversation about this. But there's been attempts to reform, and as we can see, there's proposed laws, LEO talking about it, so something is happening with this issue.

It might not be 'solved' yet, but it's clear there's an ongoing discussion about it.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-09-2017, 11:09 AM
IMO, it would be scary if there would be no conversation about this. But there's been attempts to reform, and as we can see, there's proposed laws, LEO talking about it, so something is happening with this issue.

It might not be 'solved' yet, but it's clear there's an ongoing discussion about it.

LEO pushback and nothing happens. That is the problem.

It's been going on since the Reagan administration war on drugs and been abused like mad for 20 years. Shit is happening.

Winehole23
02-10-2017, 09:47 AM
Eavenson, a Republican, declined to provide a name but state Sen. Juan “Chuy” Hinojosa, D-McAllen, filed Senate Bill 156 on Nov. 10, 2016, which regards the issue the sheriff was talking about. Another similar bill was filed last December by state Sen. Konni Burton, R-Colleyville. Hinojosa is a co-author on Burton’s bill.


The Dallas Morning News reported that Eavenson said after Tuesday’s White House meeting that the senator he was referring to was a male. Hinojosa said he has never met Eavenson.


“I do not know and have not met with Sheriff Harold Eavenson of Rockwall County,” Hinojosa said. “And quite frankly, I don’t pay much attention to what President Trump says anymore. However, the asset forfeiture bills I have authored and co-authored will not interfere with our law enforcement agencies’ ability to do their jobs. Instead, these bills are an important protection for Texans’ property rights and civil liberties.”

http://www.themonitor.com/news/local/trump-offers-to-destroy-texas-state-senator/article_7fcba6f4-edac-11e6-969d-ffcd12672637.html

Winehole23
02-10-2017, 09:48 AM
y'all cool with POTUS threatening Texas senators when they disagree with his policies?

benefactor
02-10-2017, 10:31 AM
Excellent debate
Sup breh? How the scro bullying in the weight room treating you these days?

boutons_deux
02-10-2017, 10:51 PM
Opinion: One Politician Shows How To Handle The Threats Of Blowhard Bully Trump


“Who is the state senator? Do you want to give his name? We’ll destroy his career.”That was a bit much for any American to hear from the leader of the Executive branch, but for Mr. Leach it was an affront too far and he let loose with a few clever names for Trump along with an invitation to “try to destroy my career.”

Mr. Leach was particularly clever to use Trump’s primary means of communication, the Twitter to assail him saying:

“Hey @real (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6855)dDonaldTrump I oppose civil asset forfeiture too!

Why don’t you try to destroy my career, you fascist, loofa-faced shit-gibbon.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/10/opinion-legislator-dares-fascist-loofa-faced-sht-gibbon-trump-destroy-career.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

:lol

Any you loofa-faced shit-gibbons here on ST find that amusing? :lol