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slayermin
10-11-2005, 02:47 AM
Any fans out there of Lefty? No. Not Lefty Grove. Lefty Carlton.
Steve Carlton was my favorite pitcher of all time. He didn't blow guys out of the water like Nolan Ryan or even Walter Johnson. But when he was on, he dominated. I am not here to argue that he was a better strikeout pitcher than Nolan Ryan. But the man is a winner and was as fit as Ryan, just not in the lower body.
You can call me a bandwagoner because when I was ten, the Phils won the series. I began collecting baseball cards at that time and my favorite card was the special edition NL Cy Young Award Winner by Donruss which had Lefty on it.
He was 24-9 that year with a 2.34 era. He pitched 304 innings with 286 k's. Compared to Nolan or the Big Unit, his strikeouts per nine innings is not spectacular. But he did have dominating performances. He shared the record of 19 k's in a game with a couple others until the Rocket broke the record in 86, I think.
At that time, I was able to watch several of his starts on WTBS when the Phils played the Braves. Eventually, as cable expanded and I had access to more channels, I would watch Met and Cub games, especially when they played the Phillies.
Carlton was like 6'4, if I remember correctly, and he had this high, long leg kick. I would say his throwing angle was three-quarter but he might have gone a little side arm, at times. He had decent fastball velocity. I can't recall what he hit on the radar but I would guess 90 or so. Nothing too devastating unless you mix in his slider. That pitch had so much movement. I would say it was similar to Mariano Rivera's cut fastball, movement wise. His slider rolled off that proverbial table.
Carlton ended up with over 4,000 strikeouts and four Cy Young awards. I think if you are going to talk about the greatest of all time, Carlton has a good case.
Though, imo, Sandy Koufax was the greatest ever. Carlton was the type of pitcher I could picture myself being in a virtual world.
Trainwreck2100
10-11-2005, 03:28 AM
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samikeyp
10-11-2005, 08:13 AM
Nolan Ryan.
then Koufax.
shelshor
10-11-2005, 08:39 AM
Bob Gibson
then Whitey Ford,
and Carlton
SWC Bonfire
10-11-2005, 08:46 AM
Pitchers of Shiner @ the Dixie Chicken.
Pitchers of Shiner @ the Dixie Chicken.
Whoop!
Horry For 3!
10-11-2005, 11:25 AM
Steve Carlton, my uncle played golf with him and Carlton got a hole-in-one and won a Lexus. My uncle got his autograph for me :smokin
Horry For 3!
10-11-2005, 11:25 AM
My favorite pitcher would probably have to be..... Nolan Ryan.
tlongII
10-11-2005, 11:28 AM
Randy Johnson in the mid-90's with Seattle. He scared the shit out of the hitters back then.
mookie2001
10-11-2005, 11:33 AM
Nolan Ryan
Tom Glavine
Greg Maddux
Horry For 3!
10-11-2005, 11:37 AM
Nolan Ryan
Tom Glavine
Greg Maddux
I have his autograph too :)
Spurminator
10-11-2005, 02:31 PM
I grew up watching Nolan Ryan... I'd love to have a more original answer, but that's just the way it is.
After him? Probably Billy Wagner.
Jimcs50
10-11-2005, 03:09 PM
Cheatum Street Warehouse
75 cent pitchers on Tuesday nights watching George Strait and the Ace in the Hole Band when I was at SWT my Freshman year.
Kori Ellis
10-11-2005, 03:39 PM
Steve Howe.
samikeyp
10-11-2005, 04:16 PM
I have his autograph too
Very cool...I have Sandy Koufax somewhere. It was on an insert with that night's lineup at a San Antonio Dodgers game. Sid Fernandez pitched for SA and Terry Pendleton played for Arkansas that night.
Spurminator
10-11-2005, 04:26 PM
I have a ball signed by Mark Mulder, Tim Hudson and Barry Zito. So I'm kind of rooting for all of them to be Hall of Famers some day.
Jimcs50
10-11-2005, 05:02 PM
Steve Howe.
:lol
I like coke heads too.
Horry For 3!
10-11-2005, 05:35 PM
Very cool...I have Sandy Koufax somewhere. It was on an insert with that night's lineup at a San Antonio Dodgers game. Sid Fernandez pitched for SA and Terry Pendleton played for Arkansas that night.
Awesome. I only have Steve Carlton, Greg Maddux and his brother Mike Maddux.
slayermin
10-11-2005, 06:25 PM
Steve Howe.
:lol
Didn't Howe win rookie of the year?
Jelly
10-11-2005, 06:29 PM
I really loved Orel Herscheiser. He's what made me a Dodgers fan.
midgetonadonkey
10-11-2005, 06:42 PM
http://halloffamememorabilia.com/images/products/HOFM-RYAN16Amed.jpg
Greatest Pitcher Ever.
Low End Specialist
10-11-2005, 06:46 PM
Roger Clemens
hussker
10-11-2005, 06:48 PM
Tom Seaver
Rocket
Greg Maddux
In math equation:
Greg Maddux (mechanics/accuracy) + Rocket (POWER) = Tom Terrific
FromWayDowntown
10-11-2005, 08:56 PM
Very cool...I have Sandy Koufax somewhere. It was on an insert with that night's lineup at a San Antonio Dodgers game. Sid Fernandez pitched for SA and Terry Pendleton played for Arkansas that night.
Back then, a friend of my family (the father of one of my brother's best friends) was in the front office for the San Antonio Dodgers. He was so good to us -- giving us all kinds of access to the players and parts of the ballpark, not to mention free tickets almost every night. I ran the scoreboard one night and served as official scorer. My buddy broke his leg and got to sit on the Dodgers bench for a couple of games. When we got older, we were all allowed to go out early and shag balls during batting practice and hang around with the players. But of all of the great things that he did for us, the best was the night that he invited us down to the house on a weekend night during the 1981 strike and we sat around as our parents had a little party with Sandy Koufax and Tommy Lasorda. That was unbelievably cool, even to a young kid.
Brodels
10-11-2005, 10:43 PM
Without a doubt: Fernando Valenzuela.
Marcus Bryant
10-11-2005, 10:49 PM
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers_and_honorees/plaques/images/Feller_Bob.jpg
Kori Ellis
10-11-2005, 11:19 PM
:lol
Didn't Howe win rookie of the year?
Yes. He was awesome when he wasn't on coke and vodka. :)
Horry For 3!
10-11-2005, 11:23 PM
Yes. He was awesome when he wasn't on coke and vodka. :)
:lmao
IcemanCometh
10-11-2005, 11:56 PM
http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/warehouse/gibson68-1.jpg
http://mcsa.fc2web.com/pic/RogerClemens_P22.jpg
http://www.jeffreyluke.com/Quotes/satchel_paige.jpg
T Park
10-12-2005, 01:55 AM
Bob Gibson
Juoquin Andujar
Chris Carpenter.
Carpenter winning a game this year in the 9th inning 6-0 gives up a solo homer and then stares down and starts to berate the hitter, because he wasn't running fast enough.
Gibson?? The best ever, period.
Last time I checked, no one lowered the mound cause of Ryan or Clemens.
Also, no one had a bigger pair and pitched inside like all pitchers should, like Gibson.
1.12 will never be beat.
17 in a WS game.
G.O.A.T. BAAAAA
T Park
10-12-2005, 01:58 AM
Back then, a friend of my family (the father of one of my brother's best friends) was in the front office for the San Antonio Dodgers. He was so good to us -- giving us all kinds of access to the players and parts of the ballpark, not to mention free tickets almost every night. I ran the scoreboard one night and served as official scorer. My buddy broke his leg and got to sit on the Dodgers bench for a couple of games. When we got older, we were all allowed to go out early and shag balls during batting practice and hang around with the players. But of all of the great things that he did for us, the best was the night that he invited us down to the house on a weekend night during the 1981 strike and we sat around as our parents had a little party with Sandy Koufax and Tommy Lasorda. That was unbelievably cool, even to a young kid.
Another story, added to why Baseball is king in america....
Just LOVE the history and the stories of baseball. Fantastic.
TPark you post like a fucking bitch from Lakersground.
Jimcs50
10-12-2005, 11:12 AM
:lol
Didn't Howe win rookie of the year?
That was beore his 9 cocaine busts.
:)
baseline bum
10-12-2005, 02:35 PM
1. Nolan Ryan
2. Doc Gooden pre-crackhead
Marcus Bryant
10-12-2005, 04:08 PM
Bob Gibson
Juoquin Andujar
Chris Carpenter.
Carpenter winning a game this year in the 9th inning 6-0 gives up a solo homer and then stares down and starts to berate the hitter, because he wasn't running fast enough.
Sounds like a little bitch.
TheTruth
10-12-2005, 04:44 PM
Jose Rijo
Jimcs50
10-12-2005, 05:06 PM
Joe Sambito, JR Richard and Andy Pettitte.
mcornelio
10-12-2005, 07:33 PM
Roger Clemens... Pedro Martinez and Bob Stanley for single handedly Making My Sox Wait Another 18 years to get the World Series Ring That We Should Of Had In 86
hussker
10-12-2005, 09:35 PM
Roger Clemens... Pedro Martinez and Bob Stanley for single handedly Making My Sox Wait Another 18 years to get the World Series Ring That We Should Of Had In 86
Ah, the old woulda coulda shoulda...SO MANY fans can use that one...
REMEMBER ...
BILL MAZEROSKI
CASSIUS CLAY
JOE NAMATH
USSR BASKETBALL
USA HOCKEY
LORENZO CHARLES
BILL BUCKNER
BUSTER DOUGLAS
KIRK GIBSON
0.4!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ADAM VINATIERI
LE KEVIN SMITH (MOST RECENT and I am probably the only one who does not have to look that one up)
FromWayDowntown
10-12-2005, 09:46 PM
LE KEVIN SMITH (MOST RECENT and I am probably the only one who does not have to look that one up)
Not really, thanks to Bryan Kegans.
hussker
10-12-2005, 09:49 PM
Nah, LeKevin pretty much did that on his own by not falling down...helluva game though! I will be rooting my ALMA MATER on in Waco this weekend!
sa_butta
10-13-2005, 10:20 AM
I would Have to go with
1.Nolan Ryan
2.Sandy Koufax
3.Roger Clemens
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