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RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 10:27 AM
Trump didn’t even know McGhan would go in there and spill his guts :lol

Trump surrounds himself with incompetent and corrupt people. The only thing he asks, like any good mob boss, is for loyalty.

... and like any good mob boss, you get to him by going through his captains, both of which went down.

So now, they get to take a good, looooong look at the Trump Organization.

Given where Trump does business, the odds that the Trump Organization laundered money in some way approaches 100%, so the only question is how much Trump knew about it.

Either Trump didn't know, in which case he is an idiot of monumental proportions, or he did, in which case he is an outright criminal boss, in every sense of that word.

That's going to be fucktarded Darrin/Chris/TSA's choice. Idiot, or criminal boss.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 10:29 AM
:lol

Assuming Donald Trump reads... :rollin


Trump didn’t even know McGhan would go in there and spill his guts :lolYOU GUYS DON'T GET IT TRUMP KNOWS EVERYTHING HE INTENTIONALLY HAD HIS LAWYER IMPLICATE HIM DIRECTLY IN A FEDERAL CRIME SO TRUMP CAN GO TO PRISON AND TAKE DOWN THE SYSTEM FROM THE INSIDE

baseline bum
08-22-2018, 10:33 AM
It's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". They might not get him on collision but they'll have enough to force him out.

I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP officially a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 10:35 AM
I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.

A bit of a simplification. The GOP is a bit broader than that, but that is what wins GOP primaries.

The "we're not racists, but..." schtick is pretty much not fooling anyone anymore.

baseline bum
08-22-2018, 10:38 AM
A bit of a simplification. The GOP is a bit broader than that, but that is what wins GOP primaries.

The "we're not racists, but..." schtick is pretty much not fooling anyone anymore.

If the GOP base is broader than that why is Trump so wildly popular with GOP voters? If conservatism mattered you'd think there would be a big movement on the right to oust Trump and install Pence. But there isn't, GOP voters are fiercely loyal to the Dear Leader.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 10:38 AM
I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP officially a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.Yep, Darrin and TSA prove that Trump's cult of personality doesn't care about anything silly like laws or conservative values of any kind.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 10:41 AM
If the GOP base is broader than that why is Trump so wildly popular with GOP voters? If conservatism mattered you'd think there would be a big movement on the right to oust Trump and install Pence. But there isn't, GOP voters are fiercely loyal to the Dear Leader.Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.

Winehole23
08-22-2018, 10:42 AM
hanging on to political power and not losing face online are more important than ridding the most powerful office in the world of a crook.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 10:43 AM
Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.

Eyup. What is funny is that Trump is EVERYTHING bad that they said Clinton and Obama were.
"tan suit" and "Dijon mustard"... :lol how quaint.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 10:45 AM
hanging on to political power and not losing face online are more important than ridding the most powerful office in the world of a crook.

GOP has been "win at any cost" for a while now. The lack of scruples is sort of a defining feature of the modern GOP. They lost their way during the "revolution" in the 90's and have been drifting since, in a slow motion decline.

You can't do that much gerrymandering and not have that stain your soul, IMO. Cheating... ish.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 10:46 AM
That that Dems aren't blameless when it comes to bare knuckles politics, but you can't say the parties are "equal" in anything.

The indictments scorecard alone give that the lie.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 10:49 AM
That that Dems aren't blameless when it comes to bare knuckles politics, but you can't say the parties are "equal" in anything.

The indictments scorecard alone give that the lie.THAT'S BECAUSE DEEP STATE

DarrinS
08-22-2018, 10:51 AM
I don't see it. Trump is the Republican party. He is extremely popular with Republican voters and anyone on the right who crosses him is going to become unelectable. Trump really captured something, that the tea party wave was never about conservatism but instead white nationalism. He made the GOP officially a blood and soil party and that's apparently what GOP voters want now.


Yeah, as shown by those 20 or so people who showed up at Unite the Right. :lol

baseline bum
08-22-2018, 10:58 AM
Yeah, as shown by those 20 or so people who showed up at Unite the Right. :lol

The guy's entire early campaign was about Obama's birth certificate. Then the rest of it was about fuck PC, it's ok to be open racists.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 10:58 AM
Yeah, as shown by those 20 or so people who showed up at Unite the Right. :lolWhy do you support Trump, Darrin?

boutons_deux
08-22-2018, 11:23 AM
In Trump’s right-wing media universe, it was a day like any other

a link (https://www.hannity.com/media-room/cohen-strikes-a-deal-trumps-former-attorney-to-plead-guilty-to-financial-fraud/) from Sean Hannity of Fox News appears, announcing the intention of Michael Cohen, Trump’s former lawyer, to enter a guilty plea but omitting the fact that Cohen’s admission implicates the president.

A minute later, another link (https://www.hannity.com/media-room/off-the-hook-imran-awan-avoids-prison-lawyer-attacks-donald-trump/) from Hannity comes through, this one about a former congressional IT
staffer (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/ex-congressional-it-staffer-set-to-be-sentenced-after-prosecutors-debunk-conspiracy-theories/2018/08/21/0b1006ee-a4b1-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.184619487412) targeted by conspiracy theories cooked up by right-wing media and advanced by the president.

Trump’s carefully curated feed is a reflection of the ideological chasm that’s dividing the media and splintering society.

Tuesday offered vivid evidence of the way in which

right-wing media insulates Trump, and his most devoted supporters, from blunt assessments of his administration.

Alongside a Daily Caller story about Cohen were laudatory posts about Trump, from the president’s defense of free speech (http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/21/president-trump-cnn-censorship/) to

his status (http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/20/trump-most-feminist-president-ever-the-trump-women-sound-off/) as “the most feminist president.” :lol

TheBlaze gave prominence to Trump’s attacks on ESPN (https://www.theblaze.com/) for not “defending our anthem,” :lol

foregrounding the president’s grievances with NFL players (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/07/21/after-a-tough-week-for-trump-the-latest-nfl-news-allows-him-to-pivot-back-to-the-culture-wars/?utm_term=.620dbe0e3bf3) who kneel during the national anthem to protest police violence.

conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh asserted that special counsel

Robert S. Mueller III isn’t interested in what Trump’s former attorney has to say. :lol

“Remember, Mueller passed off the Michael Cohen case,” he said. :lol
the only “BREAKING NEWS” alert he would have seen was the one from Fox (https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1032009439186964481) about

the 24-year-old undocumented immigrant from Mexico who law enforcement officials say killed Mollie Tibbetts (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2018/08/21/mollie-tibbetts-has-been-found-dead-a-month-after-she-vanished-authorities-say/?utm_term=.c1af7306f338),

the 20-year-old college student who disappeared last month in Iowa. The story led Fox’s homepage much of the day.

the spin of Ann Coulter, the conservative commentator.

She labeled (https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1032042411311214593) the guilty plea “100% political” :lol

and asserted (https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1032045564966436866) without evidence, as the president has often done, that

it was actually Hillary Clinton who colluded with the Russians during the 2016 campaign. :lol

Nowhere on Trump’s Twitter feed could he find the conclusions of others in the media that Tuesday was unparalleled in possible peril for his administration.

Hannity :lol dismissed Tuesday’s news as a bloodthirsty campaign against the president.

“The media is once again beside themselves with false reporting, speculation and hysteria,” :lol

he said. Hannity maintained that the wrongdoing targeted by prosecutors

had “zero to do with Donald Trump or the Trump campaign” but was seized on by Mueller to smear the president. :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/22/how-right-wing-media-dealt-with-a-devastating-day-for-trump/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.161f8123c0a5&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

TSA
08-22-2018, 11:24 AM
There has already been collusion, you fuckwitted simpleton.

The Steele dossier outlined a bunch of people in Trumps orbit, including Cohen who met with various Russian officials.

Every single one of those meetings was confirmed to one degree or another, but they could never quite find enough on Cohen to 100% confirm it. *from what was available publicly.

So now, Cohen is going to detail just how he committed treason with the Scumbag Donny.

Now, if you can get your tongue out of Scumbag Donny's trousers long enough to read:

Why the question of whether Michael Cohen visited Prague is massively important for Donald Trump

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17236660/michael-cohen-prague-trump-steele-dossier


Why would the presidents personal lawyer secretly travel to Prague to meet with Russian officials?

:lol trying to push the failed McClatchy report that no other news organization would touch.

At least Pavlov has some company now.

TSA
08-22-2018, 11:27 AM
They will get him on collusion, and obstruction of justice in multiple cases.



:lmao

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 11:27 AM
:lol trying to push the failed McClatchy report that no other news organization would touch.

At least Pavlov has some company now.

:lol trying to laugh it all off.

You are one deluded chicken fucker.

Steele Dossier is batting 100% when it comes to outlining people related to Trump that colluded with Russia in some way.

What will your dumb ass say when Cohen starts talking about his meeting in Prague, moron?

vy65
08-22-2018, 11:30 AM
Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.

pretty much this. they're not rational actors

TSA
08-22-2018, 11:31 AM
Steele Dossier is batting 100% when it comes to outlining people related to Trump that colluded with Russia in some way.



:lmao

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 11:34 AM
:lmao

You have reached the Robert Mueller Plea Deal Hotline, all Special Agents are busy with other traitors, please hold for the next available Agent

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 11:35 AM
:lmao

So which one hasn't panned out, in your mind? Do tell.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 11:37 AM
Key roles of Manafort, Cohen, and Page
That then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort had "managed" the "conspiracy of co-operation", and that he used Trump's foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, and others, "as intermediaries".[99][100] (Dossier, p. 7)
That Page had "conceived and promoted" the idea of leaking the stolen DNC emails to WikiLeaks during the 2016 Democratic National Convention.[101][92] (Dossier, pp. 7, 17)
That Cohen played a "key role" in the Trump–Russia relationship[3] by maintaining a "covert relationship with Russia",[102][103][104] arranging cover-ups and "deniable cash payments",[56][35] and that his role had grown after Manafort had left the campaign.[105][101] (Dossier, pp. 18, 30, 32, 34–35)
That "COHEN now was heavily engaged in a cover up and damage limitation operation in the attempt to prevent the full details of TRUMP's relationship with Russia being exposed."[101][94] (Dossier, p. 32)

Cohen was central to this effort. This is what they have.

So, we will get to see if the dossier was correct in this, as it has been proven out where things can be proven out.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 11:40 AM
Michael Cohen
The dossier alleges that Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, met with Russian officials in Prague in 2016 with the objective of paying those who had hacked the DNC and to "cover up all traces of the hacking operation". Cohen has denied the allegations against him,[35][56][57] stating that he was in Los Angeles between August 23 and 29, and in New York for the entire month of September[119] and that "I have never been to Prague in my life".[128] According to a Czech intelligence source, there is no record of him entering Prague by plane, but Respekt magazine and Politico pointed out that he could have entered by car or train from a neighboring country within the Schengen Area, for example Italy. In the latter case, a record of Cohen entering the Schengen zone from a non-Schengen country should exist.[129][130] McClatchy reported that "investigators have traced evidence that Cohen entered the Czech Republic through Germany",[118] which was confirmed by The Spectator citing an intelligence source in London.[131] Mother Jones reported that Cohen had told them "I was in Prague for one afternoon 14 years ago," contradicting later statements that he had never visited.[107]

Cohen has denied meeting in Prague, which is likely a lie.

His guilty plea means that Mueller now will have access to proof of this meeting, and his cooperation with Mueller will be the key to securing leniency for himself for the crimes he has so far admitted to

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 11:59 AM
:lol trying to push the failed McClatchy report that no other news organization would touch.

At least Pavlov has some company now.


"Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows, not just about the obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the American democracy system in the 2016 election which the Trump Tower meeting was all about, but also knowledge about the computer crime of hacking and whether or not Mr. Trump knew ahead of time about that crime and even cheered it on."

Hillary Clinton: still not locked up, or indicted.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/usa-election_clinton2.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

boutons_deux
08-22-2018, 12:03 PM
Repug leadership responding

to the undeniable fact that their Dear Fascist so-called President

committed a Federal crime to be illegitimately elected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=K8E_zMLCRNg

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 12:38 PM
lol
1032131104629637121

Reck
08-22-2018, 12:53 PM
Why do you support Trump, Darrin?

Trump had Darrin support at "I hate blacks."

DarrinS
08-22-2018, 01:05 PM
Trump had Darrin support at "I hate blacks."

When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.

Reck
08-22-2018, 01:07 PM
When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.

Not in so many words. But his actions speak for himself.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 01:07 PM
When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.So why do you support Trump?

Reck
08-22-2018, 01:10 PM
Trump goes on TV and admits the money came from him. That's another federal offence because when he signed the campaign finance form he omitted that little nugget, says Norman Eisen.

:lol Bumbling idiot.

Trill Clinton
08-22-2018, 01:10 PM
Trump is basically saying stop snitching

Reck
08-22-2018, 01:38 PM
https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1032331668403744770

djohn2oo8
08-22-2018, 01:49 PM
Damn Chris really took the Manafort news hard

Isitjustme?
08-22-2018, 01:54 PM
Eight years of a black man running the country made a third of the voting population go insane.

Troof

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 02:05 PM
When did he say that?

Oh, I know. Never.

Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 02:37 PM
with an actual jury verdict, at least we wont be seeing the "he was pressured to plead guilty to a felony by mueller's strong-arm tactics" stuff

TSA
08-22-2018, 03:32 PM
with an actual jury verdict, at least we wont be seeing the "he was pressured to plead guilty to a felony by mueller's strong-arm tactics" stuff

That’s exactly what happened with count #8 for Cohen. He plead guilty to a crime that is not a crime. He did so for leniency on the actual crimes he committed.

“There appear to be two payments involved in this unusual plea - Cohen pleaded guilty to a campaign finance violation for having "coordinated" the American Media Inc. payment to Karen McDougal for her story, not for actually making the payment. So he is pleading guilty over a corporate contribution he did not make.

Now, when it comes to Stormy Daniels, Cohen made a payment a few days before the election that Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani says was reimbursed. First, given that this payment was on Oct. 27, it would never have been reported before the election campaign and so, for all intents and purposes, was immaterial as it relates to any effect on the campaign. What's clear in this plea deal is that, in exchange for overall leniency on his massive tax evasion, Cohen is pleading guilty to these other charges as an attempt to give prosecutors what they want - a Trump connection.

The usual procedures here would be for the FEC to investigate complaints and sort through these murky laws to determine if these kinds of payments are personal in nature or more properly classified as campaign expenditures. And, on the Daniels payment that was made and reimbursed by Trump, it is again a question of whether that was made for personal reasons (especially since they have been trying since 2011 to obtain agreement). Just because it would be helpful to the campaign does not convert it to a campaign expenditure. Think of a candidate with bad teeth who had dental work done to look better for the campaign; his campaign still could not pay for it because it's a personal expenditure.“

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/402959-cohens-plea-deal-is-prosecutors-attempt-to-set-up-trump?amp&__twitter_impression=true

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 03:33 PM
there's an actual jury verdict against manafort. that's who i was referring to, TSA

i know its hard to keep track of all these trump associates in legal issues, so i dont blame you

TSA
08-22-2018, 03:47 PM
there's an actual jury verdict against manafort. that's who i was referring to, TSA

i know its hard to keep track of all these trump associates in legal issues, so i dont blame you

Understood.

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 03:48 PM
That’s exactly what happened with count #8 for Cohen. He plead guilty to a crime that is not a crime. He did so for leniency on the actual crimes he committed.

“There appear to be two payments involved in this unusual plea - Cohen pleaded guilty to a campaign finance violation for having "coordinated" the American Media Inc. payment to Karen McDougal for her story, not for actually making the payment. So he is pleading guilty over a corporate contribution he did not make.

Now, when it comes to Stormy Daniels, Cohen made a payment a few days before the election that Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani says was reimbursed. First, given that this payment was on Oct. 27, it would never have been reported before the election campaign and so, for all intents and purposes, was immaterial as it relates to any effect on the campaign. What's clear in this plea deal is that, in exchange for overall leniency on his massive tax evasion, Cohen is pleading guilty to these other charges as an attempt to give prosecutors what they want - a Trump connection.

The usual procedures here would be for the FEC to investigate complaints and sort through these murky laws to determine if these kinds of payments are personal in nature or more properly classified as campaign expenditures. And, on the Daniels payment that was made and reimbursed by Trump, it is again a question of whether that was made for personal reasons (especially since they have been trying since 2011 to obtain agreement). Just because it would be helpful to the campaign does not convert it to a campaign expenditure. Think of a candidate with bad teeth who had dental work done to look better for the campaign; his campaign still could not pay for it because it's a personal expenditure.“

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/402959-cohens-plea-deal-is-prosecutors-attempt-to-set-up-trump?amp&__twitter_impression=true
please elaborate

Reck
08-22-2018, 03:52 PM
Pleaded guilty to a crime that isn't a crime.

TSA has lost it completely. :lol

TSA
08-22-2018, 03:57 PM
please elaborate

The payments weren’t campaign expenditures. Money from the campaign wasn’t used.

TSA
08-22-2018, 03:58 PM
Pleaded guilty to a crime that isn't a crime.

TSA has lost it completely. :lol

I’ll take the word of a former FEC chairman.

djohn2oo8
08-22-2018, 04:01 PM
I’ll take the word of a former FEC chairman.
You are just a dumbass who will fall for any theory.

TSA
08-22-2018, 04:03 PM
You are just a dumbass who will fall for any theory.

“When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what constitutes campaign expenditures and what constitutes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”—Bradley Smith former FEC Chairman

djohn2oo8
08-22-2018, 04:04 PM
“When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what constitutes campaign expenditures and what constitutes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”—Bradley Smith former FEC Chairman
pled guilty.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 04:07 PM
“When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what constitutes campaign expenditures and what constitutes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”—Bradley Smith former FEC ChairmanThese payments were made only because there was a campaign and solely that reason.

Reck
08-22-2018, 04:10 PM
“When the FEC wrote the regulation that says what constitutes campaign expenditures and what constitutes personal use, it rejected specifically the idea that a campaign expenditure was anything related to a campaign, and instead says it has to be something that exists only because of the campaign and solely for that reason.”—Bradley Smith former FEC Chairman

Who also happens to be a GOPer. Nice and balance.

This was a criminal act.


Cohen pleaded guilty (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen-is-in-plea-discussions-with-federal-prosecutors-according-to-a-person-familiar-with-the-matter/2018/08/21/5fbd7f34-8510-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.d5bb9ed7ce83)Tue sday to eight criminal charges, including two campaign finance violations in which he directly implicated Trump.

Criminal AKA crimes.


Dan Petalas, former acting general counsel and head of enforcement at the FEC who signed the settlement agreement with the Obama campaign, said such infractions are far more common than criminal violations to which Cohen pleaded guilty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/why-michael-cohens-campaign-finance-crimes-were-more-serious-than-the-obama-campaigns-infraction/2018/08/22/af5425ee-a616-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.67f4015ef4cf

Excellent article breaking down the difference between Civil infraction vs Criminal.

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 04:12 PM
The payments weren’t campaign expenditures. Money from the campaign wasn’t used.
you're saying he plead guilty to things he is not guilty of

thats different than saying he plead guilty to crimes that aren't crimes :lol... which implies its some made up law

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 04:15 PM
So TSA is saying Flynn and Cohen and probably Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to crimes they didn't commit.

What are the odds?

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 04:17 PM
So TSA is saying Flynn and Cohen and probably Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to crimes they didn't commit.

What are the odds?
believe in Q

Brazil
08-22-2018, 04:29 PM
TSA.. Truth isn't truth

:lmao

TSA
08-22-2018, 04:40 PM
These payments were made only because there was a campaign and solely that reason.

:lol solely that reason

Are there no other reasons you can think of that a husband and father would have for not wanting an affair exposed publicly?

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 04:41 PM
:lol solely that reason

Are there no other reasons you can think of that a husband and father would have for not wanting an affair exposed publicly?
on the eve of an election? :lol

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 04:42 PM
TSA.. Truth isn't truth

:lmao
truth isn't truth

crimes aren't crimes

TSA
08-22-2018, 04:45 PM
“Cohen implicated Trump” is all the prosecutor was after. They know a campaign finance charge will never hold up in court against Trump. Nothing will come of this concerning Trump.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 04:48 PM
:lol solely that reason

Are there no other reasons you can think of that a husband and father would have for not wanting an affair exposed publicly?

on the eve of an election? :lol
:lol

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 04:49 PM
“Cohen implicated Trump” is all the prosecutor was after.Sooooooooooo deep state.

TSA
08-22-2018, 04:51 PM
on the eve of an election? :lol

Dodge #1

TSA
08-22-2018, 04:52 PM
:lol

Dodge #1

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 04:54 PM
Dodge #1On the eve of an election, no.

No is my answer, TSA.

The timing shits on your family man conspiracy theory.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 04:59 PM
“Cohen implicated Trump” is all the prosecutor was after. They know a campaign finance charge will never hold up in court against Trump. Nothing will come of this concerning Trump.

No, it directly implicates Trump. During the election, chicken fucker, with multiple felonies.

That is some weapons grade delusional bullshit you got there.

Not a Russian Bot
08-22-2018, 04:59 PM
“Cohen implicated Trump” is all the prosecutor was after. They know a campaign finance charge will never hold up in court against Trump. Nothing will come of this concerning Trump.

God bless you, a TRUE AMERICAN.
THANK YOU for your commitment to the messaging!
#MAGA #DrainTheSwamp #LockHerUp #SpiritCooking #Pizzagate
@ realdonaldtrump @ infowars @ prisonplanet @ tuckercarlson

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 05:01 PM
:lol solely that reason

Are there no other reasons you can think of that a husband and father would have for not wanting an affair exposed publicly?If Trump has other reasons he can explain them in an interview with Robert Khuzami.

Pretty simple.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 05:02 PM
:lol solely that reason

Are there no other reasons you can think of that a husband and father would have for not wanting an affair exposed publicly?

Sure.

Problem is that they were made right before the election and per the plea BECAUSE of the election.

Do you have some evidence to support some other thesis?

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 05:03 PM
God bless you, a TRUE AMERICAN.
THANK YOU for your commitment to the messaging!
#MAGA #DrainTheSwamp #LockHerUp #SpiritCooking #Pizzagate
@ realdonaldtrump @ infowars @ prisonplanet @ tuckercarlson

ROFL...

masterful. Props. :tu

TSA
08-22-2018, 05:04 PM
No, it directly implicates Trump. During the election, chicken fucker, with multiple felonies.

That is some weapons grade delusional bullshit you got there.

You’re blinded by your hatred of Trump. Wasn’t a campaign expenditure. Campaign money wasn’t used. Cohen didn’t even commit a crime by making the payment.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 05:07 PM
You’re blinded by your hatred of Trump. Wasn’t a campaign expenditure. Campaign money wasn’t used. Cohen didn’t even commit a crime by making the payment.

https://assets.rbl.ms/18330388/980x.jpg

It was a thing of value, chicken fucker. That is the way the law works. Sorry, you fail so hard.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 05:08 PM
You’re blinded by your hatred of Trump. Wasn’t a campaign expenditure. Campaign money wasn’t used. Cohen didn’t even commit a crime by making the payment.


The developments of today will permit us to have the stay lifted in the civil case & should also permit us to proceed with an expedited deposition of Trump under oath about what he knew, when he knew it, and what he did about it. We will disclose it all to the public.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 05:09 PM
You’re blinded by your hatred of Trump. Wasn’t a campaign expenditure. Campaign money wasn’t used. Cohen didn’t even commit a crime by making the payment.Crime isn't crime.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 05:11 PM
You’re blinded by your hatred of Trump. Wasn’t a campaign expenditure. Campaign money wasn’t used. Cohen didn’t even commit a crime by making the payment.


However, under federal campaign finance rules, a contribution is “anything of value given, loaned or advanced to influence a federal election.”

A “knowing and willful” violation of those rules — which Cohen admitted to — can lead to criminal charges.

Excessive in-kind contributions do not usually result in criminal prosecution, said Jonathan Biran, a partner at Biran Kelly and former prosecutor with the Justice Department’s public integrity unit.

“What sets this apart is the amount of the things of value — and also, one might argue, the importance of the issue that was the subject of these payments,” he said. “In other words, to prevent the surfacing of these allegations.”

Oh fucker of chickens, it matters fuckall whether campaign funds were used or not.

Do you want the law? I can lay that smackdown on your dumb ass too.

RandomGuy
08-22-2018, 05:15 PM
You’re blinded by your hatred of Trump. Wasn’t a campaign expenditure. Campaign money wasn’t used. Cohen didn’t even commit a crime by making the payment.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30116


(i) expenditures made by any person in cooperation, consultation, or concert, with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate, his authorized political committees, or their agents, shall be considered to be a contribution to such candidate;

Yes or no, chicken fucker, was this an "expenditures made by any person in cooperation, consultation, or concert, with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate"

DarrinS
08-22-2018, 05:24 PM
chicken fucker — so edgy

clambake
08-22-2018, 05:49 PM
i get it now.

the "s" is for spineless.

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 05:50 PM
chicken fucker — so edgyWhy do you support Trump, Darrin?

TSA
08-22-2018, 05:57 PM
Who also happens to be a GOPer. Nice and balance.

Who also happened to be opposed by Republicans and nominated for his position by Bill Clinton.

TSA
08-22-2018, 05:59 PM
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30116


Yes or no, chicken fucker, was this an "expenditures made by any person in cooperation, consultation, or concert, with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate"

Do you think you are more knowledgeable on this subject than the FEC chairman yes or no?

pSBByU8gj4E

spurraider21
08-22-2018, 06:10 PM
Bradley Smith was notoriously anti campaign finance laws... so i'm not surprised that he's pretty laxed with how he thinks they should be implemented/tried

boutons_deux
08-22-2018, 06:17 PM
Bradley Smith was notoriously anti campaign finance laws... so i'm not surprised that he's pretty laxed with how he thinks they should be implemented/tried

" He is best known for his writing and activities opposing campaign finance regulation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance_in_the_United_States)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Smith_(law_professor)

... and being a Repug, he's corrupt behind his academic credentials. He's for any money corrupting all politics, because he knows the right-wing oligarchy will outbid the non-oligarchy to corrupt legislatures and judges.

Read this today:

The Golden Rule: He Who Has The Gold, Makes the Rules.

... is how the oligarchy is destroying America.

Reck
08-22-2018, 06:22 PM
LOL TSA

Chris
08-22-2018, 07:13 PM
1032419471401648128

Pavlov
08-22-2018, 07:16 PM
:lmao remember remember the 28th of Augustember Stealth Jeff

Winehole23
08-22-2018, 09:27 PM
The payments weren’t campaign expenditures. Money from the campaign wasn’t used.correct. the Trump Organization paid using fake invoices to hide the purpose and avoid disclosure.

goes to intent, TSA, this point doesn't cut the way you think it does.

Chris
08-23-2018, 02:27 AM
1032475291501953030

Chris
08-23-2018, 02:46 AM
1032406332479918081
1032408186899193856
1032409903053164546
1032411669861871617
1032417831063674880
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1032427106771193856

ElNono
08-23-2018, 05:16 AM
cliff notes, pls, with your own opinion, if possible

Brazil
08-23-2018, 07:05 AM
1032475291501953030

so what ?

Is he guilty yes or no ?

boutons_deux
08-23-2018, 08:00 AM
so $10Ms of tax evasion, false IRS declarations are OK with the jurors unless you're FoD ("friends of Don")

:lol will any other juror speak up except this very fucking stupid one who went to Fox News, for $$$, to help Fox LIE that ManyFart is actually not guilty,

his conviction for extensive tax fraud was strictly political? :lol

Winehole23
08-23-2018, 08:35 AM
cliff notes, pls, with your own opinion, if possiblepure spam

benefactor
08-23-2018, 09:30 AM
pure spam
It's like Avante's lists...scroll, scroll, scroll

Chris
08-23-2018, 09:44 AM
1032598724785127425

clambake
08-23-2018, 09:47 AM
ding

Reck
08-23-2018, 10:08 AM
1032598724785127425

Ok. He's not disputing what Trump did was legal either.

I say go lock them both up. Makes both camps happy.

Winehole23
08-23-2018, 10:10 AM
Trump DOJ needs to wake the fuck up. Is there no one over there to do the president's bidding and go after his political enemies?

RandomGuy
08-23-2018, 05:10 PM
Do you think you are more knowledgeable on this subject than the FEC chairman yes or no?

pSBByU8gj4E

Duck and dodge. Question with a question. That's how I know the answer is "yes", but you won't admit it, even to yourself.

I wonder what Mr. Whathisbutt has to say now, that a guilty plea and new information has come out. Do tell.

RandomGuy
08-23-2018, 05:25 PM
Trump DOJ needs to wake the fuck up. Is there no one over there to do the president's bidding and go after his political enemies?

:dramaquee

In all seriousness, the door is now wide open to look at the Trump Organization, Beavis and Butthead, and Jaredvanka.

This is going to get uglier as we go on. Trump will order someone at some point to disrupt this, and that will be his end.

Chris
08-23-2018, 05:33 PM
1032445477143437313
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1032445500883173376
1032445503290703873
1032447306820460544

Pavlov
08-23-2018, 05:45 PM
1032445477143437313
1032445481618731009
1032445483829080065
1032445488048611329
1032445490485518336
1032445494465896448
1032445498165276679
1032445500883173376
1032445503290703873
1032447306820460544lol *ding* tweets

Chris
08-23-2018, 05:46 PM
1032732618347831296
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1032734052694904832
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1032741087415230464
1032741795514339329
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1032744177308655616
1032744419382845440


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlUFMvaV4AEBP7Z.jpg:large

Chris
08-23-2018, 05:47 PM
1032751100947034112

Pavlov
08-23-2018, 05:47 PM
lol another conspiracy

Reck
08-23-2018, 05:47 PM
Poor Chris.

spurraider21
08-23-2018, 05:59 PM
:lmao super troopers

baseline bum
08-23-2018, 06:03 PM
Wow, this is like when I'd post that 20,000 pixel long Karl Marx photo in Cosmored's threads.

Chris
08-23-2018, 06:08 PM
Wow, this is like when I'd post that 20,000 pixel long Karl Marx photo in Cosmored's threads.

No, that's spamming and trolling. You are a spammer and a troller.

Congratulations.

spurraider21
08-23-2018, 06:12 PM
No, that's spamming and trolling. You are a spammer and a troller.

Congratulations.
longcat is more informative than flamethrower expert spewing political conspiracy theories

Reck
08-23-2018, 06:12 PM
No, that's spamming and trolling. You are a spammer and a troller.

Congratulations.

It's about the same. You dont read your own wall of tweets.

And you also spam them. What do you think posting like 50 tweets in back to back to back posts means? That's called spamming.

Poor Chris.

benefactor
08-23-2018, 06:21 PM
It's like Avante's lists...scroll, scroll, scroll

Chris
08-23-2018, 06:22 PM
You dont read your own wall of tweets.

You're full of shit.

Chris
08-23-2018, 07:18 PM
1032781207682080768
1032781212681678848
1032781215349321729
1032781218352386048
1032781220705394691

hitmanyr2k
08-23-2018, 07:44 PM
Wall of random tweet theories


https://media1.tenor.com/images/c90c0134966bda8f8ae5848f1d4f5d60/tenor.gif

Pavlov
08-23-2018, 08:00 PM
Goodness, anonymous twitter has lost its mind this week.

ElNono
08-23-2018, 08:23 PM
Wow, this is like when I'd post that 20,000 pixel long Karl Marx photo in Cosmored's threads.

:lol

ElNono
08-23-2018, 08:24 PM
If I wanted to read tweets, I'll go to twitter.com...

ElNono
08-23-2018, 08:25 PM
I mean, nothing wrong with one or two... more than that, there's an app for that!

Pavlov
08-23-2018, 08:26 PM
If I wanted to read tweets, I'll go to twitter.com...No shit. Anything over three I'll start copying and pasting text. I'm willing to bet WWI flamethrower tweets look even more batshit crazy in a regular format.

Chris
08-23-2018, 09:07 PM
Triggered by tweets :lol

boutons_deux
08-23-2018, 09:13 PM
Republicans Are Killing a Bill to Protect U.S. Elections From Russia — at the Request of Trump's White House

The Secure Elections Act was actually picking up bipartisan steam.

Then the White House put a stop to it.

a potentially groundbreaking bill to secure U.S. elections from hostile attacks like those carried out by Russia in 2016, known as the Secure Elections Act, is now stalled and effectively dead.

Before the bill could be marked up in committee, however, officials in the Department of Homeland Security intervened, prompting Senate Rules Committee Chairman Roy Blunt (R-MO) to cancel any further action on it:

In a statement to Yahoo News, White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters says that while

the administration “appreciates Congress’s interest in election security, :lol

[the Department of Homeland Security] has all the statutory authority it needs to assist state and local officials to improve the security of existing election infrastructure.”

Under current law, DHS is already able to work with state and local authorities to protect elections, Walters wrote.

If Congress pursues the Secure Elections Act,

it should avoid duplicating “existing DHS efforts or the imposition of unnecessary requirements” and

“not violate the principles of Federalism.” :lol

“We cannot support legislation with inappropriate mandates or that moves power or funding from the states to Washington for the planning and operation of elections,” she added.

However, the White House gave no specifics on what parts of the bill it objected to.


https://www.alternet.org/republicans-kill-secure-elections-act-white-house-request



And we know DHS/CBP people got their jobs because Pootin elected Trash



Trash and his Exec kakistocracy want Pootin to continue to queer elections in Repug favor, allowing them all to keep their jobs.

Cuck Ross
08-23-2018, 09:15 PM
Triggered by tweets :lol

Trigger warning

1032766421724487680

boutons_deux
08-23-2018, 09:21 PM
Russian social media bots fueling anti-vaccine movement, study finds

They're not just interfering with elections — they're spreading a public health risk.

https://thinkprogress.org/russia-anti-vax-2aaa91be2638/

And Trash invites mortal enemy Pootin to the White House

DarrinS
08-23-2018, 09:32 PM
Russian social media bots fueling anti-vaccine movement, study finds

They're not just interfering with elections — they're spreading a public health risk.

https://thinkprogress.org/russia-anti-vax-2aaa91be2638/

And Trash invites mortal enemy Pootin to the White House


Rando Russian bot tweets

Reck
08-23-2018, 09:33 PM
The Trump organization is about to get charged by the Manhattan DA office. :lol Never ending corruption.

https://twitter.com/rossgarber/status/1032802583415533568

Pavlov
08-23-2018, 09:36 PM
Triggered by tweets :lollol you post nothing else

Not a Russian Bot
08-23-2018, 09:55 PM
Vaccines KILL!
So does toothpaste and antibacterial soap.
I will never use ANY of them again!
Hygene is a liberal Soros scam to kill REAL AMERICANS.
#NoVaccines #NoSoap #NoCollege #RedPill


Russian social media bots fueling anti-vaccine movement, study finds

They're not just interfering with elections — they're spreading a public health risk.

https://thinkprogress.org/russia-anti-vax-2aaa91be2638/

And Trash invites mortal enemy Pootin to the White House

Winehole23
08-24-2018, 12:02 AM
vulpine and depraved

Winehole23
08-24-2018, 12:08 AM
emotive prose as worldly wisdom

lol

ElNono
08-24-2018, 12:28 AM
Triggered by tweets :lol

the troll thingie

Chris
08-24-2018, 01:08 AM
the troll thingie

Your thingy.

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 08:56 AM
Spiro Agnew’s lawyer says Trump should quit before Mueller comes for Jared and Ivanka

told MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that Trump should make the same decision for the good of the country — or at least for the good of his family.

“It’s only going to get worse,” London said.

“We already have everybody, you know — the rats are leaving the ship.

He’s lost (Rick) Gates, (George) Papadopoulos, (Michael) Cohen, (Michael) Flynn, now (David) Pecker.

He’ll probably lose others from the Trump Organization.”

“We don’t know a quarter of what’s in the pocket of the prosecutor,” London said.

London has urged Trump (https://time.com/5374971/michael-cohen-donald-trump/) to negotiate an end to the Mueller investigation by agreeing to resign as president — and he said that may be the only way to keep his family from being prosecuted (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/msnbcs-rachel-maddow-reveals-trumps-three-eldest-children-serious-risk-criminal-charges/#.W38crSWfVVY.twitter).

“If he has any interest at all in not only saving his skin,

but the skin of his child, his children, his son-in-law, his grandchildren, his daughter —

this is a time when he’s got to seriously think about that,” London said.

“Now, is he capable of that, of serious thinking? Frankly, I doubt it.”

“He’s going to be advised by people like clown (Rudy) Giuliani and

people who don’t know that truth is truth,

then he’s not going to get anywhere,” he said.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/spiro-agnew-lawyer-says-trump-quit-mueller-comes-jared-ivanka/

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 09:02 AM
How State Charges Against Trump’s Company Could Destroy His Family


New York state prosecutors in Manhattan are reportedly considering pushing for criminal charges against the Trump Organization (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/21/rachel-maddow-trump-organization-indictment.html) and top company officials.

The charges would relate to the hush-money payments made by former longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.

In Cohen’s guilty pleas this week he admitted he had made illegal payments on behalf of the president, and then submitted invoices to the Trump Organization for payment.

According to charging documents,

several high-level executives in the Trump Organization (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/03/15/u-s-special-counsel-subpoenas-trump-organization-for-documents-nyt.html) were aware of the illegal payments at the time they were made, and approved them.

This means that

Trump’s company, as well as its senior executives, have been implicated in the same crimes to which Michael Cohen pleaded guilty.

Other than the Chief Financial Officer and the president himself,

the only high-level executives within the Trump Organization are Eric Trump (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/04/eric-trump-whines.html) and Donald Trump Jr.. (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/10/donald-trump-jr-shares-fake-photoshopped-cnn-graphic-while-misspelling-america.html)

the Manhattan District Attorney may be eyeing criminal charges against the Trump Organization (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges-vance.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage).

filing of criminal charges against the company and its top executives would be terrifying for Trump for several reasons.

For one thing, because the charges would be prosecuted at the state level, Trump could not issue pardons since presidents don’t have the ability to pardon state crimes.

because the Trump Organization is a family business, charges brought against the company “would mark the end of Trump’s long standing plans for his family business,”

“This is an organization that has 500 different entities, businessman Donald Trump, before he was president,

really specialized in clever engineering, clever financial dealings, in order to fund these enterprises, shift profit around.

Now, for the first time, it’s all going to be opened up for examination.

This is why he didn’t release his tax returns.

He didn’t want people to actually have access to the numbers,

and we may now have access to the numbers.”

a criminal case against the Trump Organization would open up all financial records to prosecutors and eventually to the public through the trial process.

All of the president’s confidential financial documents, including his tax returns (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump-biographer-explains-ny-state-investigators-can-get-presidents-federal-tax-returns-make-public/),

would probably be disclosed to member of the jury as well as the general public.

In D’Antonio’s opinion,

“This is really his nightmare. He’s operated as a private, family business for all these years to avoid scrutiny.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/24/how-state-charges-against-trumps-company-could-destroy-his-family.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

djohn2oo8
08-24-2018, 09:54 AM
1033003779506024448

:lmao Trumps own executives flipping

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 10:16 AM
1033003779506024448

:lmao Trumps own executives flipping

just fucking fucking wow!

Mueller's / Schneiderman gonna pull down the pants of Trash and mafiya, for everybody to see how toxic they are.

Trash wants to make "flipping" illegal. :lol

Reck
08-24-2018, 10:22 AM
1033003779506024448

:lmao Trumps own executives flipping

Well that didn't take long.

TSA
08-24-2018, 10:40 AM
I miss Muh Russia updates. What’s up djohn?

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 10:51 AM
I miss Muh Russia updates. What’s up djohn?

be patient, many $100Ms of Russian money has flowed into Trash Org, as announced by DJTJr years ago. money laundered, then flowed back to Russians.

Trash is so screwed in so many ways in all current and upcoming orifices.

RandomGuy
08-24-2018, 11:06 AM
How State Charges Against Trump’s Company Could Destroy His Family


New York state prosecutors in Manhattan are reportedly considering pushing for criminal charges against the Trump Organization (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/21/rachel-maddow-trump-organization-indictment.html) and top company officials.

The charges would relate to the hush-money payments made by former longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.

In Cohen’s guilty pleas this week he admitted he had made illegal payments on behalf of the president, and then submitted invoices to the Trump Organization for payment.

According to charging documents,

several high-level executives in the Trump Organization (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/03/15/u-s-special-counsel-subpoenas-trump-organization-for-documents-nyt.html) were aware of the illegal payments at the time they were made, and approved them.

This means that

Trump’s company, as well as its senior executives, have been implicated in the same crimes to which Michael Cohen pleaded guilty.

Other than the Chief Financial Officer and the president himself,

the only high-level executives within the Trump Organization are Eric Trump (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/06/04/eric-trump-whines.html) and Donald Trump Jr.. (https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/10/donald-trump-jr-shares-fake-photoshopped-cnn-graphic-while-misspelling-america.html)

the Manhattan District Attorney may be eyeing criminal charges against the Trump Organization (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/nyregion/trump-organization-criminal-charges-vance.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage).

filing of criminal charges against the company and its top executives would be terrifying for Trump for several reasons.

For one thing, because the charges would be prosecuted at the state level, Trump could not issue pardons since presidents don’t have the ability to pardon state crimes.

because the Trump Organization is a family business, charges brought against the company “would mark the end of Trump’s long standing plans for his family business,”

“This is an organization that has 500 different entities, businessman Donald Trump, before he was president,

really specialized in clever engineering, clever financial dealings, in order to fund these enterprises, shift profit around.

Now, for the first time, it’s all going to be opened up for examination.

This is why he didn’t release his tax returns.

He didn’t want people to actually have access to the numbers,

and we may now have access to the numbers.”

a criminal case against the Trump Organization would open up all financial records to prosecutors and eventually to the public through the trial process.

All of the president’s confidential financial documents, including his tax returns (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump-biographer-explains-ny-state-investigators-can-get-presidents-federal-tax-returns-make-public/),

would probably be disclosed to member of the jury as well as the general public.

In D’Antonio’s opinion,

“This is really his nightmare. He’s operated as a private, family business for all these years to avoid scrutiny.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/24/how-state-charges-against-trumps-company-could-destroy-his-family.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29





Pretty much. It will be through his company that they will ultimately find the real shit. I have little doubt that there are some shredders being worked overtime, and that their trash is being intercepted.

This opens the door.

Winehole23
08-24-2018, 11:11 AM
I miss Muh Russia updates. What’s up djohn?lawfare

"the Dems are trying to Al Capone the president"

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 11:47 AM
Fox fallout shows why Trump’s lawyers don’t want Mueller to get an interview

THE BIG IDEA: Donald Trump’s own lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, distanced himself from his client’s suggestion that it “almost ought to be illegal” for “flippers” to get plea deals in exchange for their testimony.

many experts believe the president may have inadvertently confessed to breaking campaign finance law

with his latest account of how he reimbursed Michael Cohen for paying hush money so two of his alleged mistresses would stay silent before the 2016 election.

That’s just some of the fallout from a 12-minute interview that aired Thursday morning on “Fox and Friends.”

It was Trump’s most problematic sit-down since he told NBC’s Lester Holt last year that

the Russia investigation was indeed on his mind when he fired James Comey as FBI director

— undercutting the official explanation from White House officials.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2018/08/24/daily-202-fox-fallout-shows-why-trump-s-lawyers-don-t-want-mueller-to-get-an-interview/5b7f32791b326b3f31919d76/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7bd480c1ff1f&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Pavlov
08-24-2018, 11:51 AM
SchneidermanSchneiderman has been out for months.

It's Underwood.

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 01:19 PM
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5b7f730b67b29c0d70eadd04/master/w_6000,c_limit/CoverStory-STORY_blitt_trump_hounds.jpg

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 02:09 PM
shit hole TX protecting voter data from Russians

Nearly 15 Million Texas Voters Reportedly Exposed by Data Leak (https://gizmodo.com/nearly-15-million-texas-voters-reportedly-exposed-by-da-1828579189)

got discovered by a data breach hunter overseas, according to TechCrunch (https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/23/millions-of-texas-voter-records-exposed-online/).

Much of the leaked information is public record and

can be accessed by anyone willing to pay for it,

but the files also include a wealth of data considered confidential, such as

years’ worth of the residents’ voting history.

Records listing who residents vote for and

which parties they affiliate with

is not public information in the State of Texas.

https://gizmodo.com/nearly-15-million-texas-voters-reportedly-exposed-by-da-1828579189?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29

RandomGuy
08-24-2018, 03:03 PM
shit hole TX protecting voter data from Russians

Nearly 15 Million Texas Voters Reportedly Exposed by Data Leak (https://gizmodo.com/nearly-15-million-texas-voters-reportedly-exposed-by-da-1828579189)

got discovered by a data breach hunter overseas, according to TechCrunch (https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/23/millions-of-texas-voter-records-exposed-online/).

Much of the leaked information is public record and

can be accessed by anyone willing to pay for it,

but the files also include a wealth of data considered confidential, such as

years’ worth of the residents’ voting history.

Records listing who residents vote for and

which parties they affiliate with

is not public information in the State of Texas.

https://gizmodo.com/nearly-15-million-texas-voters-reportedly-exposed-by-da-1828579189?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29




VAN

yeah, not really all that secure.

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 03:08 PM
Cohen $50K to a tech services company?

to "fix" that company's anonymity?

Does Mueller know who that "company" is? American, British, European, anonymous LLC or equivalent?

djohn2oo8
08-24-2018, 05:36 PM
Cohen $50K to a tech services company?

to "fix" that company's anonymity?

Does Mueller know who that "company" is? American, British, European, anonymous LLC or equivalent?

he knows everything

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 07:52 PM
‘Owned by the Russian mob’: Trump biographer explains how the president’s first ‘fixer’ Roy Cohn set him up with the mafia

the author of a new book alleging the president was tied to Russia mobsters laundering money in his properties put that claim to the test

the connection between Trump and the Russian mob was forged by the president’s old lawyer, the late Roy Cohn (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/wheres-my-roy-cohn-furious-trump-ordered-lawyer-to-make-sessions-protect-him-from-russia-probe/).

“[Cohn] was also a lawyer for the Italian mafia, for the Gambino and Genovese families, and in the 80’s they began partnering with the Russians,”

With the fall of the Soviet Union,

Russians began making so much money that “they needed to launder it,” the writer continued.

In 1984, David Bogatin (https://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/30/nyregion/entrepreneur-who-left-us-is-back-awaiting-sentence.html), a Russian national with ties to the mob,

paid Trump $6 million in cash for five condos — the equivalent of about $15 million by modern standards.

“According to the state attorney general of New York,” Unger noted, “that was money laundering.”

After clarifying to Matthews how and why the capital began flowing from the former USSR to the United States,

the writer pointed out that “the best way to launder money is real estate.”

“There are almost no regulations in real estate,” Unger said,

“in terms of [how] you can buy it anonymously,

through shell companies,

pay all-cash transactions —

bam, when you sell it, it’s laundered.”

“Obviously I don’t have subpoena power, but

I think you’re going to find that those records are going to be opened by the prosecutors now.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/owned-russian-mob-trump-biographer-explains-presidents-first-fixer-roy-cohn-set-mafia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

===============

How did Cohn learn about the Russians?

Counterespionage

As an Assistant US Attorney in Saypol's Manhattan office,

Cohn helped to secure convictions in a number of well-publicized trials of accused Soviet operatives.

Cohn also prosecuted 11 members of the American Communist Party Politburo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo) for preaching the violent overthrow of the United States government, under the Smith Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn#Early_life

spurraider21
08-24-2018, 08:36 PM
pwn the libs!

1033140449517731877

spurraider21
08-24-2018, 08:47 PM
"the libs, who are currently loving him, won't be able to say it was political"

:lmao yeah the libs really think jeff sessions is a non-partisan actor :lmao

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 10:02 PM
Trump Is Under At Least 4 Different Lines Of Criminal And Civil Investigation

It isn’t just the Mueller investigation. There are at least four different lines of criminal and civil investigation into Donald Trump.

Hayes explained:

Until very recently we all focused on the office of the special counsel Robert Mueller and the investigation of Russia interference in the 2016 election. That’s already led to indictments or plea deals involving Michael Flynn, Paul manafort, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos, a dozen Russian intelligence officers, more than a dozen Russian nationals, and three Russian companies.

Along the way, Mueller also referred the matter of Michael Cohen to the southern district of New York since Cohen’s crimes didn’t appear to come under the umbrella of Mueller’s Russia investigation.

But just look what that now has led to.

Not only to Michael Cohen pleading guilty to eight felony counts but to a criminal investigation which may implicate both the Trump Organization and certain unnamed executives who aided in the illegal hush money scheme.

That also led to a grant of immunity to “National Enquirer” publisher David Pecker and to Trump Organization CFO Allen Weissberg.

Meanwhile, the state of New York started its own line of inquiry.

They filed a civil suit against the Trump Foundation as well as referring its findings to both the IRS and the FEC,

which may or may not act on the information.

And now we know the Manhattan D.A. Is also eyeing the trump all this raises the question,

how likely is it that one or more of these lines of criminal and civil investigation will lead back to the man at the top, Donald Trump?

There are four different investigations into Trump right now with the potential to expand to six,

and this does not include congressional investigations.

If Democrats win back Congress, there could easily be 3-5 Congressional investigations into Donald Trump.

There could be as many as an unfathomable 9-13 investigations into Trump going on at the same time.

Trump likes to claim that the Russia investigation is a witch hunt, but

in reality what is unfolding is a manhunt for the felony implicated criminal who is occupying the Oval Office.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/24/trump-is-under-at-least-4-different-lines-of-criminal-and-civil-investigation.html

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 10:08 PM
NYT columnist Frank Bruni says Trump is ‘powerless and cornered’ and about to lash out like an animal

Frank Bruni said that President Donald Trump is

in a powerless situation after Allen Weisselberg (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/bombshell-trumps-financial-gatekeeper-just-granted-legal-immunity-cohen-probe/)the chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, was granted immunity in exchange for his testimony.

On Friday, Bruni told CNN’s Erica Hill that

all of Trump’s secrets are about to be exposed

and that the president will ‘lash out’ in response.

“Donald Trump spent his life accumulating secrets and

spending energy on nothing so much as keeping those things hidden and

cultivating and managing his image.

People who know things intimately, and

know him well are talking to investigators and prosecutors.

He has no control,” Bruni said.

He added,

“When Donald Trump feels vulnerable he lashes out and bites back.

I think the next couple days and weeks will be scary and utterly unpredictable.”

Bruni said that when President Trump is

“backed into a corner, everyone around him will tell you it’s when he lashes out.

That’s what Donald Trump does when he feels cornered.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/nyt-columnist-frank-bruni-says-trump-is-powerless-and-cornered-and-about-to-lash-out-like-an-animal/

boutons_deux
08-24-2018, 10:12 PM
CIA's Kremlin sources go dark, hamstringing intelligence on Putin's midterm plans (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/24/1790735/-CIA-s-Kremlin-sources-go-dark-hamstringing-intelligence-on-Putin-s-midterm-plans)

Kremlin-linked informants who proved critical to American intelligence operations both during and after the 2016 elections have gone silent,

Officials say they don't think these sources have been killed.

Instead, they believe a combination of factors have pushed them further underground,

including Russian President Vladimir Putin's efforts to cut down on leaks by any means possible.

He has both expelled U.S. diplomats in response to similar American actions and

also sent not-so-subtle messages by poisoning former agents.

Mr. Putin has also said he is intent on killing so-called traitors, comments he made just ahead of the high-profile assassination attempt of the former Russian intelligence officer, Sergei V. Skripal.

Donald Trump hasn't done U.S. intelligence officials any favors, either.

Officials also raised the possibility that

the outing of an F.B.I. informant (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/us/politics/trump-fbi-informant-russia-investigation.html) under scrutiny by the House intelligence committee —

an examination encouraged by President Trump (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/12/us/politics/white-house-fbi-informant.html)

— has had a chilling effect on intelligence collection.


not all of their Russian contacts have been lost,

the ones closest to Putin have gone dark,

leaving them guessing at his goals as we head into the midterm elections.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/24/1790735/-CIA-s-Kremlin-sources-go-dark-hamstringing-intelligence-on-Putin-s-midterm-plans

Chris
08-24-2018, 11:05 PM
Someone is quite taken with Stealth Jeff ^

Pavlov
08-24-2018, 11:53 PM
Someone is quite taken with Stealth Jeff ^

Yeah, you.

djohn2oo8
08-25-2018, 07:21 AM
1033188701344550913

another hush money deal

boutons_deux
08-25-2018, 07:40 AM
1033188701344550913

another hush money deal

a bastard kid cements his "bad man lifted up by God to do good" pro-life rep with evangelicals

boutons_deux
08-25-2018, 08:04 AM
Maher on Orange Tuesday and elves balls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtHai64Rlpk

boutons_deux
08-25-2018, 09:15 AM
Trump Boasts That His Impeachment Will Get Higher TV Ratings Than All Other Impeachments

WASHINGTON —In an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt, Donald Trump boasted that, if he is impeached, the television ratings will be higher than those of any other impeachment in history.

“Everywhere I go, people tell me that if I am impeached, they’re going to watch it,” he said.

“The ratings are going to be through the roof.”

He said that he expected

his impeachment ratings to be “many, many times” the size of the audience for Bill Clinton’s impeachment, in 1998.

“It’s not even going to be close,” Trump said. “The ratings for Bill Clinton’s impeachment were a joke.”

Asked about the recent impeachment of the former South Korean President Park Geun-hye, Trump said, “Did anyone even watch that one? That was Korea. Nobody cares.”

As for the impeachment of Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff, he said, “I didn’t hear about that one. I don’t follow Brazil. I like Argentina. I saw ‘Evita’ many, many times. Andrew Lloyd Webber did a great job. Millions and millions of people loved it. But that was a Broadway show, not an impeachment.”

Even though

he anticipates “just terrific” ratings for his impeachment,

Trump said that

he did not expect the media to provide an honest accounting of his audience size.

“They’re going to lie and say that a lot of people who watched my impeachment didn’t watch, and

that’s going to be very bad and unfair,

but it’s not going to change the fact that

my impeachment will be a great impeachment, a really beautiful impeachment,” he said.
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-boasts-that-his-impeachment-will-get-higher-tv-ratings-than-all-other-impeachments?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20082518&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=Silverpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Borowitz%20082518&utm_content=&spMailingID=14126031&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1462165016&spReportId=MTQ2MjE2NTAxNgS2 (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-boasts-that-his-impeachment-will-get-higher-tv-ratings-than-all-other-impeachments?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20082518&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=Silverpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Borowitz%20082518&utm_content=&spMailingID=14126031&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1462165016&spReportId=MTQ2MjE2NTAxNgS2)

boutons_deux
08-25-2018, 10:52 AM
The three illegal acts that may have helped Trump win the presidency

The hush money.

The hackers.

The trolls

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/08/24/the-three-illegal-acts-that-may-have-helped-trump-win-the-presidency/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.29c864351c02&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

boutons_deux
08-25-2018, 11:08 AM
It's Not Enough to Impeach Trump — His Entire Presidency Should Be Annulled

Trump’s presidency is not authorized under the United States Constitution.

Democrats will take back the House and begin an impeachment, and the evidence of impeachable offenses will put enough pressure on Republican senators to send Trump packing.

I don’t believe this for a moment.

First, the Senate has never in history convicted a president of impeachment.

Second, even if Democrats flip the House in November, Republicans will almost certainly remain in control of the Senate –

and so far they’ve displayed the integrity of lizards.

Third, Fox News and the rest of the right-wing sleaze media will continue to distort and cover up whatever the evidence shows – convincing 35 to 40 percent of Americans, along with most Republicans, that Trump is the innocent victim of a plot to remove him.

Finally, Trump himself will never voluntarily resign, as did Nixon. He’ll lie and claim a conspiracy to unseat him.

The only way I see the end of Trump is if there’s overwhelming evidence he rigged the 2016 election.

In which case impeachment isn’t an adequate remedy.

His presidency should be annulled.

Suppose, just suppose,

Robert Mueller finds overwhelming and indisputable evidence that

Trump conspired with Putin to rig the 2016 election, and

the rigging determined the election’s outcome.

In other words,

Trump’s presidency is not authorized under the United States Constitution.

Suppose these findings are so compelling that even Trump loyalists desert him, the Republican Party decides it has had enough, and Fox News calls for his impeachment.

What then?

Impeachment isn’t enough.

Impeachment would remedy Trump’s “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

But impeachment would not remedy Trump’s unconstitutional presidency because it would leave in place

his vice president,

White House staff and Cabinet,

as well as all the executive orders he issued and

all the legislation he signed, and

the official record of his presidency.

The only response to an unconstitutional presidency is to annul it.

Annulment would repeal all of an unconstitutional president’s appointments and executive actions, and

would eliminate the official record of the presidency.

Annulment would recognize that all such appointments, actions, and records were made without constitutional authority.

The Constitution does not specifically provide for annulment of an unconstitutional presidency.

But read as a whole, the Constitution leads to the logical conclusion that annulment is the appropriate remedy for one.

As I’ve said, my betting is Trump remains president at least through 2020 –

absent compelling and indisputable evidence he rigged the 2016 election.

But if such evidence comes forth, impeachment isn’t an adequate remedy because Trump’s presidency would be constitutionally illegitimate.

It should be annulled.

https://www.alternet.org/its-not-enough-impeach-trump-his-entire-presidency-should-be-annulled

boutons_deux
08-25-2018, 11:14 AM
he knows everything

CFO was handing out checks to, eg "tech services company", but Cohen was the "fixer", why did Cohen needed to "fix" this "tech services company" with a hidden (off-books?) payment, rather than the CFO?

Winehole23
08-25-2018, 02:56 PM
HOW CAN HE BE RACIST IF HE IMPREGNATED HIS LATINA HOUSEKEEPER?

Reck
08-25-2018, 03:40 PM
HOW CAN HE BE RACIST IF HE IMPREGNATED HIS LATINA HOUSEKEEPER?

Trump going full Arnold. :lol

Chris
08-25-2018, 04:47 PM
1033341088579440640

Pavlov
08-25-2018, 04:51 PM
1033341088579440640:lol search them yourself, David.

It's the only way to get justice!

dabom
08-25-2018, 06:47 PM
:lol search them yourself, David.

It's the only way to get justice!

:lol

dabom
08-25-2018, 06:49 PM
Repugs own everything and president gotta get his cliff notes from an entertainment show. :lol

Reck
08-25-2018, 07:00 PM
:lol search them yourself, David.

It's the only way to get justice!

He expects them spoon fed like his McDonald’s fries.

boutons_deux
08-25-2018, 07:08 PM
HOW CAN HE BE RACIST IF HE IMPREGNATED HIS LATINA HOUSEKEEPER?

Droit de Seigneur

Winehole23
08-25-2018, 07:51 PM
I say jus primae noctis, you say droit de seigneur, let's call the whole thing off

ducks
08-26-2018, 10:33 AM
A Russian bank paid Bill Clinton a $500,000 speaking fee on June 29, 2010 for a 30 minute speech while Hillary was the Secretary of State

Soon after Hillary approved the sale of 20% of our Uranium to the Russians

I wonder why

boutons_deux
08-26-2018, 10:40 AM
With Corker and McC out, there's not a single Repug who will stand up to Trash.

Reck
08-26-2018, 10:46 AM
With Corker and McC out, there's not a single Repug who will stand up to Trash.

:lol Corker standing up to anybody.

boutons_deux
08-26-2018, 10:57 AM
‘He can’t get rid of any of this’: Trump’s wall of secrecy erodes amid growing legal challenges

President Trump’s wall of secrecy — the work of a lifetime — is starting to crack.

All three had been part of the small circle of family,

longtime aides and trusted associates who have long played crucial roles in Trump’s strategy to shield the details of his personal life and business dealings from prying outsiders.

The result has been a moment in which Trump seems politically wounded,

as friends turn and embarrassing revelations about alleged affairs and his charity trickle out, uncontained.

In coming months, certain cases could force Trump’s company to open its books about foreign government customers or compel the president to testify about his relationships with *women.

“The myth of Trump is now unraveling,”

said Barbara Res, a Trump Organization executive from 1978 to 1996.

“He’s becoming more obvious, and people are starting to know what he’s like and what he’s doing.”

his presidency is at a precarious point.

Recent polls suggest (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-on-mueller-probe-are-becoming-less-effective-new-poll-suggests/2018/08/23/6b21a882-a6da-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.f85b2105f5ac) his repeated attacks on Mueller for leading a “witch hunt” have lost their effectiveness.

And if the Democrats win a majority in at least one house of Congress in the midterm elections, now less than 10 weeks away, they would gain the power to investigate or even impeach.

“The whole reason he is freaking out is, he can’t get rid of any of this,”

Trump has also focused his ire on Attorney General Jeff Sessions,

whom he has repeatedly and publicly attacked for his decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation.

White House aides have explained to him that firing Sessions would not end the probe, but he remains livid,

officials said, particularly after Sessions responded last week with a statement :lol

declaring that “the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations.” :lol

Before this year, any explanation of Trump’s secrecy would have begun with Cohen, a lawyer who threatened reporters with lawsuits for writing about Trump.

Before last week, it would have begun with Allen Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s longtime chief financial officer.

If Cohen was the outside man, Weisselberg has been the insider:

a functionary whom Trump trusted to handle his company’s bills and his charity’s donations.

Weisselberg started out working for Trump’s father, decades before.

“They are the same family,” Weisselberg and the Trumps, said one person close to the Trump Organization.

“I think Allen has earned that. He’s been around a long time, and he’s part of the family.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/he-cant-get-rid-of-any-of-this-trumps-wall-of-secrecy-is-eroding-amid-mounting-legal-challenges/2018/08/25/93d417dc-a7c6-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3541946992ca&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Hard to see how Weisselberg, obviously guilt by deep and long association, can escape before the law.

His immunity is tightly circumscribed to Mueller's crushing of Cohen, no immunity for anything else.

Luka Doncic
08-26-2018, 12:04 PM
http://www.phillytrib.com/commentary/columns/russia-still-attacking-u-s-trying-to-help-trump/article_8a13a8dd-267b-5739-9874-5bedb93b0b10.html


Russia still attacking U.S., trying to help Trump12 hrs ago
Just as President Donald Trump was openly pondering the possibility of lifting sanctions against Russia, Microsoft revealed it has uncovered yet another Russian intelligence operation aimed at assaulting America's democratic institutions and, it appears, at helping Trump.
There is no indication that Russia is anything other than very pleased with the result of its 2016 election meddling efforts.
Instead of lying low amid the political storm it triggered in the U.S., Moscow, it seems, is scaling up similar activities to influence the midterm vote in November.
This time, however, there is an interesting twist: The hackers went after Republican think tanks, creating false websites made to look like those of the Hudson Institute and the International Republic Institute (IRI) — prominent conservative groups — in addition to a website used by staff in Congress.
Why would Russian President Vladimir Putin's operatives target Republicans? Despite their strong conservative credentials, these think tanks have not been fully supportive of Trump and have been outspoken in their criticism of Putin's behavior — both at home and abroad.
Putin, not surprisingly, wants to undercut his detractors. And this hacking plan — aimed at Trump critics — suggests that Putin wants to continue helping Trump.
When Democrats challenge Trump, it feeds into his narrative; when Republicans do it, it threatens to shrink his already narrow base of support.
The Hudson Institute may have come to Russian attention when, during an event there, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coates described Russia as an aggressive force seeking to undermine democracy and divide Americans.
Some Hudson Institute fellows were withering in their criticism of Trump's summit with Putin, with one calling Trump's behavior during and after the meeting "ludicrous and dishonest."
For its part, the IRI stands for everything Putin is trying to dismantle. Searching its website for "Putin" brings up a menu of articles decrying the Russian president's repression at home and nefarious tactics abroad. IRI's board members include, among others, one of Trump's most effective critics, Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona.
Some of Trump's most fervent supporters have branded the IRI an enemy, a proponent of the globalist agenda that Trump and his backers abhor.
This new wave of attacks by Russia highlights the widening divide between Trump's Republican Party and traditional conservatives. It also shows the extent to which Russia views Trump as an ally: Trump's foes are Russia's foes.
Microsoft said it had been tracking Russian hackers for two years. It decided to reveal what just occurred, said President Brad Smith, now that "facts are clear as day."
With just 10 weeks until the crucial midterm elections, Microsoft found the evidence so convincing that it was able to obtain a court order to take over six websites designed to look like something they were not.
The sites were set up by a hacking group called Fancy Bear, associated with Russian military intelligence and well known for, among other activities, its 2016 hacking of the Democratic National Committee.
After it hacked the DNC emails during the height of the presidential campaign, it handed a trove of emails to WikiLeaks for public release, trying to cover its tracks and inflict maximum harm to the campaign of Hillary Clinton and maximum benefit to Trump, Putin's favored candidate.
Trump, of course, continues to cast doubt on whether this occurred. Just this week, in an interview with Reuters, he again attacked the probe into the Russian interference as "a disgrace" and saying, "If it was Russia, they played right into Russians' hands." Notice the "if."
By now, there's no doubt that Russia meddled in 2016, just as it did in elections in a long list of countries. Russia interfered in Britain's Brexit vote and set its hackers to work in elections in the Netherlands, Austria, Norway, France, Germany and elsewhere.
Britain's new foreign secretary, Jeremy Hunt, is calling on the U.S. and Europe to stand "shoulder to shoulder" against Russia's transgressions. It is doubtful that Trump will acquiesce.
Ahead of the November elections, which could decide the fate of the Trump presidency, Facebook found a new influence campaign that looked very much like the one that inflamed divisions among Americans two years ago.
In a report to Congress last month, Facebook said it discovered and uprooted an operation much like the one staged by the Kremlin's Internet Research Agency, detailed in an indictment by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
Across the United States, countless Americans are hard at work supporting their favored candidates in thousands of elections. Intelligence officials have warned the president that Russia is already working to interfere with U.S. democracy.
Local candidates and activists are working against shadowy obstacles. In Georgia, for example, the name of Brian Kemp, the Republican secretary of state, appeared in a just-declassified congressional report for refusing to cooperate with the federal government to protect election systems. Kemp, a fierce Trump advocate, is now running for governor.
A Mueller indictment says Russia targeted Georgia's vulnerable election machinery. But Kemp dismissed warnings from the Department of Homeland Security, claiming they were an excuse for "federalizing elections under the guise of security."
A disturbing pattern has emerged: Trump supporters are dismissive of Russian interference; Trump critics are targeted by Russia.
By now, the evidence is overwhelming, and it's not just coming from what Trump likes to call the "witch hunt" or from the professionals that his supporters dismiss as the "deep state."
It's also coming from the likes of Facebook and Microsoft, companies that have little to gain from revealing to their users that when they engage with their services they may be the targets of foreign spies.
During his Reuters interview on Monday, Trump said he would consider lifting sanctions on Russia "if they do something that would be good for us" in Syria or Ukraine.
It's unclear precisely what Trump had in mind. But what is clear is that as long as Russia continues to attack democracy and Trump continues to deny it is happening, everything he does regarding Russia will be viewed with suspicion — not only by Democrats, but by the segment of the Republican Party that doesn't trust Russia, or Trump. — (CNN)

boutons_deux
08-26-2018, 12:55 PM
Measuring Presidents’ Misdeeds

During Watergate, historians helped catalogue accusations made against past Presidents; their findings may be useful again.

These days, even Nixon’s underhandedness begins to look upstanding.

William McFeely, now eighty-seven, and retired from the University of Georgia, covered Andrew Johnson and Grant.

“I think Nixon was pretty bad, but I think that even he had a respect for the Constitution, and for a constitutional sense of the value of the Presidency,” McFeely says.

“Trump trounces on those.”

Woodward, reviewing the 1974 findings, made a list of never-befores:

“Heretofore, no president has been proved to be the chief coordinator of the crime and misdemeanor charged against his own administration as a deliberate course of conduct or plan.

Heretofore, no president has been held to be the chief personal beneficiary of misconduct in his administration or of measures taken to destroy or cover up evidence of it.

Heretofore, the malfeasance and misdemeanor have had no confessed ideological purposes, no constitutionally subversive ends.

Heretofore, no president has been accused of extensively subverting and secretly using established government agencies to defame or discredit political opponents and critics, to obstruct justice, to conceal misconduct and protect criminals, or to deprive citizens of their rights and liberties.”

Trump has already done some of them—

not secretly but publicly, gleefully, and without consequence—

and is under investigation for more.

“However much Richard Nixon deserved impeachment and the end of his Presidency,” he says,

“what he did does not match the Trump Presidency in its malfeasance,

and in the depth of his failure as President.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/09/03/measuring-presidents-misdeeds?mbid=nl_Daily%20082618&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=Silverpop&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20082618&utm_content=&spMailingID=14134866&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1462329981&spReportId=MTQ2MjMyOTk4MQS2

boutons_deux
08-26-2018, 03:22 PM
Vice President Pence Faces Heightened Scrutiny Over His Relationship with Paul Manafort

It was Paul Manafort who chose Mike Pence as Donald Trump's vice president.

The link between Manafort and Pence is leading to additional scrutiny for the vice president, as people ask just what Pence knew about Manafort and his connections.

Many are also curious about Pence's involvements with former adviser Mike Flynn,

questioning if he lied to protect the general in January of 2017 when he declared (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcript-january-15-2017-pence-manchin-gingrich/) that Flynn had not discussed,

"anything having to do with the United States' decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia" with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Flynn, in his guilty plea, admitted to discussing sanctions with Kislyak, and

that he was following the instructions of "a senior member" of the campaign.
Representative Elijah Cummings had also warned Pence about possible conflicts of interests surrounding Flynn in light of his visit to Russia and his ties to Turkey.

It is possible that, when Mueller concludes his investigation, that both Trump and Pence, amongst others, would be unable to fulfill the office of the Presidency.

It is worth noting that the last Republican president to face impeachment,

Richard Nixon, also lost his vice president as the administration became mired in controversy.

Vice President Spiro Agnew pled no contest to a charge of tax evasion and resigned on the 10th of October 1973, several months prior to Nixon's own resignation.

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/vice-president-pence-faces-heightened-scrutiny-over-his-relationship-paul-manafort

Chris
08-26-2018, 07:53 PM
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djohn2oo8
08-26-2018, 09:31 PM
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08-26-2018, 11:45 PM
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djohn2oo8
08-27-2018, 12:01 AM
:lol Chris spending all that time copying and pasting for nothing to come true

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 01:25 AM
:lol Chris spending all that time copying and pasting for nothing to come true
The faith these motherfuckers put in a flamethrower nobody on Twitter is astounding.

boutons_deux
08-27-2018, 05:42 AM
JeBo not influenced by politics :lol

The Trump admin just hit the leaker who revealed Russian election hacking with unprecedented punishment

when former government contractor Reality Winner was sentenced to a staggering 63 months in jail

for leaking a classified NSA report (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/reality-winner-sentenced-pleaded-guilty-to-leaking-secret-u-s-report-today-2018-08-23/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=55922192) on efforts by the Russian Federation

to hack into voting software supplier and the accounts of election officials during the 2016 election.

they smeared her reputation (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/reality-winner-sentenced-pleaded-guilty-to-leaking-secret-u-s-report-today-2018-08-23/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=55922192) and painted her as a traitor for her social media posts, in which she was highly critical of that “soulless ginger orangutan” Donald Trump and openly disgusted with his election,

Once confronted with the evidence of her whistleblowing, Winner immediately admitted smuggling out the documents and expressed

her frustration with the right-wing environment she was forced to work in,

citing multiple complaints about how they would play FOX News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/reality-winner-sentenced-pleaded-guilty-to-leaking-secret-u-s-report-today-2018-08-23/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=55922192) in her NSA office. :lol

It’s the longest sentence ever handed down to a leaker.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/08/23/the-trump-admin-just-hit-the-leaker-who-revealed-russian-election-hacking-with-unprecedented-punishment/

so the NSA brains are filled with Fox New bullshit? :lol

Reck
08-27-2018, 07:21 AM
:lol Chris spending all that time copying and pasting for nothing to come true

That nobody reads.

Spurtacular
08-27-2018, 08:28 AM
A Russian bank paid Bill Clinton a $500,000 speaking fee on June 29, 2010 for a 30 minute speech while Hillary was the Secretary of State

Soon after Hillary approved the sale of 20% of our Uranium to the Russians

I wonder why


:cry There was no pay for play :cry

:lmao

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 08:29 AM
:cry It's real but its fake :cryWhat are you even talking about?

Spurtacular
08-27-2018, 08:32 AM
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:lol search them yourself, David.

It's the only way to get justice!

If she didn't commit any crimes, how come they had to botch the investigation?

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 08:35 AM
If she didn't commit any crimes, how come they had to botch the investigation?The only botching they did was publicly announcing the search right before the election.

There is no there there.

Also, name the crimes you claim she committed.

lol

boutons_deux
08-27-2018, 09:08 AM
Alan Dershowitz goes bonkers on Fox: ‘If they can target Trump, they can target you — they can target anyone’

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Grabien-Steve_Doocy-446803-800x430.jpg

This is an attack on a president because you don’t like him. :lol

Why is that allowed?”

Dershowitz immediately agreed.

“There’s no doubt about that,” he began.

“They have targeted the president, they have targeted his business…

The vulnerability is in the business :lol YES!

and they have targeted.

They have said, ‘Look, we’ve known about Mr. Trump’s business dealings for years.

We’ve never looked into them. :lol

But now, we’re going to start looking into them.'” :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/alan-dershowitz-goes-bonkers-fox-can-target-trump-can-target-can-target-anyone/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/alan-dershowitz-goes-bonkers-fox-can-target-trump-can-target-can-target-anyone/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

Trash knows he's been in criminal financial activity for years. Then there's the Pootin/Russian oligarch shit.

Trash was pretty fucking stupid to think he could be President and not be xrayed.

btw, whatabout Trash secret health records? Looking at him, I'd say he has pretty fucked health.

boutons_deux
08-27-2018, 01:05 PM
Roger Stone Maybe 'Bout To Get Indicted, Please Send Money For Commissary IN JAIL

Stone sent (https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1033859003372240896) this bugfuck fundraising email this weekend:

https://assets.rbl.ms/18374988/980x.jpg
He seems pretty sure Mueller's coming, though.

Could it be in part because Robert Mueller is closing in on Stone's longtime aide Andrew Miller, (https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/24/politics/andrew-miller-roger-stone-aide-defies-robert-mueller/index.html)

whom Stone calls a "pugnacious bantam rooster," because duh, that is just a normal nickname?

CNN reported this weekend that Miller was granted full immunity to testify for the special counsel's grand jury,

after Miller tried and failed to get a judge to declare Robert Mueller's entire face unconstitutional,

which led to Miller being held in contempt.

However, CNN has changed its reporting like a common CNN, to simply state that Miller is still "resisting" the investigation. (He definitely still wants immunity, though.)

https://www.wonkette.com/roger-stone-maybe-bout-to-get-indicted-please-send-money-for-commissary-in-jail

Reck
08-27-2018, 01:32 PM
Alan Dershowitz goes bonkers on Fox: ‘If they can target Trump, they can target you — they can target anyone’


That's usually how the law works.

boutons_deux
08-27-2018, 02:10 PM
" people scared enough and stupid enough to believe the absolute bullshit "

10Ms of them, 60M+ voted for Trash, continue to vote Repug even though Repugs have screwed them down for 45 years.

These 10Ms of ignorant assholes will keep America from progressing to an improved country, and even take America backwards, which is exactly what the oligarchy wants and the oligarchy's whore Repugs have been, are doing.

RandomGuy
08-27-2018, 03:03 PM
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RandomGuy
08-27-2018, 03:04 PM
[shook twitstorm]

tldr

ducks
08-27-2018, 03:36 PM
A 60-year-old case that'll be heard by a federal appeals court next month could set a precedent that could prevent special counsel Robert Mueller from issuing a final report on the Russia investigation, Politico reports.

Winehole23
08-27-2018, 04:09 PM
If Democrats win control of the House in November, the whole debate is likely academic. In that scenario, the House Judiciary Committee could subpoena any report as part of an impeachment inquiry. A judge would likely approve that request because of a D.C. Circuit ruling (https://openjurist.org/501/f2d/714/haldeman-v-j-sirica-c-strachan) in 1974 that approved transmission of a report to the House on President Richard Nixon’s actions in Watergate.https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/27/robert-mueller-special-counsel-report-sleeper-case-797373

Reck
08-27-2018, 05:26 PM
LMAO Manafort wants to flip now.

Winehole23
08-27-2018, 05:44 PM
those talks allegedly broke down. get ready for the next trial.

Reck
08-27-2018, 05:52 PM
those talks allegedly broke down. get ready for the next trial.

Dude probably doesn't want to talk about Trump or Russia.

without those key aspects, he's really worthless. Let him rot in jail for the rest of his pathetic traitorous life. Trump doesn't need any help hanging himself.

baseline bum
08-27-2018, 05:56 PM
Dude probably doesn't want to talk about Trump or Russia.


Do you blame him after seeing what the Russians did to Sergei Skripal and his daughter? Doubt he wants to get his family murdered.

djohn2oo8
08-27-2018, 06:24 PM
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story here

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 06:33 PM
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story hereThe issue raised by Mueller was "fuck this guy."

Winehole23
08-27-2018, 06:34 PM
Dude probably doesn't want to talk about Trump or Russia.

without those key aspects, he's really worthless. Let him rot in jail for the rest of his pathetic traitorous life.I know it will seem like a quibble, but Manafort hasn't been convicted of anything remotely like treason.

A jury convicted him on the evidence of bank fraud and tax avoidance. Ordinarily that's not a life sentence, but it's the functional equivalent of one because Manafort is 65 years old.

Manafort would have gotten away with it too, if Trump hadn't won. There's an element of hamartia, something pitiable in that for me.










Nah.

djohn2oo8
08-27-2018, 06:46 PM
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djohn2oo8
08-27-2018, 06:58 PM
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lol

Chris
08-27-2018, 07:18 PM
LMAO Manafort wants to flip now.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kitguru.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F01%2Fitshappening.gif&f=1

Reck
08-27-2018, 07:22 PM
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kitguru.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F01%2Fitshappening.gif&f=1 Chris how's it feel to be both a loser and a dumbass? Imagine what it feels to wake up and having to shill for Trump on a minute by minute basis. :lol

TSA
08-27-2018, 07:43 PM
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Chris
08-27-2018, 07:43 PM
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Just beat me to it :tu

TSA
08-27-2018, 07:44 PM
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Ohr shit

Chris
08-27-2018, 07:49 PM
Of course, they need a fluffer piece to condition Libtard to react appropriately.

Chris
08-27-2018, 07:50 PM
Just like when the Nunes memo was super classified and shouldn't be released because Schiff was concerned :lol

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 07:58 PM
Always fun to see Chris and TSA getting their hopes up.

#pizzagate

spurraider21
08-27-2018, 08:29 PM
Just like when the Nunes memo was super classified and shouldn't be released because Schiff was concerned :lol
and then the memo was released and nothing happened :lmao

Chris
08-27-2018, 08:38 PM
and then the memo was released and nothing happened :lmao

Nothing that was leaked. Wait for it.


https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.celebwikiworthbio.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2FJeff-Sessions.jpg&f=1

boutons_deux
08-27-2018, 08:39 PM
There's an element of hamartia

manafort ain't no hero, but has plenty of fatal flaws

he may not have life sentence in prison,

but he will have a life sentence of paying back the IRS.

"civil forfeiture" of nearly everything that was paid for by his tax evasion and illegal/unregistered lobbying.

spurraider21
08-27-2018, 09:07 PM
Nothing that was leaked. Wait for it.

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djohn2oo8
08-27-2018, 09:40 PM
manafort ain't no hero, but has plenty of fatal flaws

he may not have life sentence in prison,

but he will have a life sentence of paying back the IRS.

"civil forfeiture" of nearly everything that was paid for by his tax evasion and illegal/unregistered lobbying.
worse than that is the Russians want some poison in his oatmeal

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 10:07 PM
Nothing that was leaked. Wait for it.


https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.celebwikiworthbio.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2FJeff-Sessions.jpg&f=1Wait how long Chris?

When is BOOM?

Chris
08-27-2018, 10:26 PM
Wait how long Chris?

When is BOOM?

Probably a good sized boom tomorrow after an interview with Bruce Ohr. I've heard he and his wife are eager to cooperate.

Chris
08-27-2018, 10:28 PM
FBI/DOJ were leaking info to the press, and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify FISA's. Ohr will probably shed some light on that.

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 10:29 PM
Probably a good sized boom tomorrow after an interview with Bruce Ohr. I've heard he and his wife are eager to cooperate.You heard that from the DVD pirate?

Chris
08-27-2018, 10:30 PM
Ohr could turtle up and plead the 5th. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 10:34 PM
Ohr could turtle up and plead the 5th. Will be interesting to see what happens.Ohr he could just tell the truth and it won't be the big BOOM peat log told you it would be just like all the other times.

Chris
08-27-2018, 10:44 PM
Ohr he could just tell the truth and it won't be the big BOOM peat log told you it would be just like all the other times.

The truth being he was a go-between after Steele got shitcanned by the FBI? Or that he was "very concerned" they would be exposed after Comey got fired? Will he tell the truth about his ties with Oleg Deripaska and his conflicts of interest concerning his wife working for FusionGPS?

Pavlov
08-27-2018, 11:00 PM
The truth being he was a go-between after Steele got shitcanned by the FBI? Or that he was "very concerned" they would be exposed after Comey got fired? Will he tell the truth about his ties with Oleg Deripaska and his conflicts of interest concerning his wife working for FusionGPS?It's your buildup, Chris.

I'm just predicting it will be another disappointment for you.

lol

djohn2oo8
08-27-2018, 11:23 PM
It's your buildup, Chris.

I'm just predicting it will be another disappointment for you.

lol
he has massive ones coming his way

djohn2oo8
08-27-2018, 11:51 PM
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sucks to be a target

Cuck Ross
08-28-2018, 01:03 AM
FBI/DOJ were leaking info to the press, and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify FISA's. Ohr will probably shed some light on that.

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Chris
08-28-2018, 03:48 AM
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"Salacious and unverified" Comey said it.

There's no there there." Strzok said it.

Chris
08-28-2018, 03:50 AM
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Oh baby, oh baby!

Reck
08-28-2018, 07:45 AM
Probably a good sized boom tomorrow after an interview with Bruce Ohr. I've heard he and his wife are eager to cooperate.

TODAY IS THE DAY......that you get dissapointed...AGAIN.

Reck
08-28-2018, 07:47 AM
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Oh baby, oh baby!

So yay we have'em so let's wait almost 3 years when she's completely irrelevant and out of the political spectrum to...I dont know..not get her elected?

spurraider21
08-28-2018, 10:00 AM
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Oh baby, oh baby!
Oh man. Trumps doj gonna take her down any minute now

Pavlov
08-28-2018, 10:03 AM
Did Chris actually say "Oh baby, oh baby!"?

djohn2oo8
08-28-2018, 10:36 AM
Did Chris actually say "Oh baby, oh baby!"?
Dude went straight late 90’s Britney Spears

spurraider21
08-28-2018, 10:40 AM
Did Chris actually say "Oh baby, oh baby!"?
Ohr baby!

TSA
08-28-2018, 11:13 AM
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djohn2oo8
08-28-2018, 11:17 AM
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What’s your theory?

TSA
08-28-2018, 11:22 AM
What’s your theory?

Same as it’s always been. There was no collusion with Russia to steal the election. Trump/Russia was a set up from the start. You are watching it get exposed week by week.

boutons_deux
08-28-2018, 11:25 AM
Congressman Nunes sought meeting with UK spy chiefs in London

sought unsuccessfully to meet chiefs of Britain’s three intelligence agencies on a recent visit to London, according to two sources familiar with his itinerary.

representatives of the British agencies initially considered meeting with Nunes during the trip which took place in recent weeks, but that

scheduling difficulties made it impossible. :lol

Prime Minister Theresa May’s deputy national security advisor, Madeline Alessandri, met Nunes.

His London visit and his unsuccessful effort to meet British spy chiefs were originally reported by the Atlantic.

Nunes and staffers working for him have used Congressional powers to investigate persons and organizations Trump and his supporters view as enemies.

At one point last year, two Nunes aides unsuccessfully traveled to London to question former British spy Christopher Steele who compiled a controversial “dossier” on Trump.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-nunes/congressman-nunes-sought-meeting-with-uk-spy-chiefs-in-london-idUSKCN1LD1VX?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-nunes/congressman-nunes-sought-meeting-with-uk-spy-chiefs-in-london-idUSKCN1LD1VX?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Reuters%2FPoliticsNews+%28Reu ters+Politics+News%29)

djohn2oo8
08-28-2018, 11:25 AM
Same as it’s always been. There was no collusion with Russia to steal the election. Trump/Russia was a set up from the start. You are watching it get exposed week by week.
Yeah that’s why there’s a shit ton of Russians indicted. You are going to be very disappointed

djohn2oo8
08-28-2018, 11:27 AM
Also have yet to explain why so many criminals around Trump

TSA
08-28-2018, 11:35 AM
Yeah that’s why there’s a shit ton of Russians indicted. You are going to be very disappointed

What do those indicted Russians have to do with Trump?

djohn2oo8
08-28-2018, 11:36 AM
What do those indicted Russians have to do with Trump?
Roger Stone was contacting Guccifer (who isn’t Seth rich) about Hillary’s emails. Damn that was easy. Next question please.

TSA
08-28-2018, 11:43 AM
Roger Stone was contacting Guccifer (who isn’t Seth rich) about Hillary’s emails. Damn that was easy. Next question please.

That has nothing to do with the indicted Russians or Trump. You’ve dedicated a lot of time to this thread and it’s understandable that you’re disappointed now that you see the writing on the wall. On top of that you’ll lose 2 grand :lol
Stupid fuck.

djohn2oo8
08-28-2018, 11:45 AM
Can’t forget Don Jr corresponding with Wikileaks and posting shit that Wikileaks asked him to. Willfully conspiring with a hostile foreign service

TSA
08-28-2018, 11:49 AM
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:lol CNN

TSA
08-28-2018, 11:51 AM
Can’t forget Don Jr corresponding with Wikileaks and posting shit that Wikileaks asked him to. Willfully conspiring with a hostile foreign service

:rollin