Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Chris]

:lol "spygate"

here is the IG's announcement back in march

https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-03-28b.pdf

Thanks for a giving me a link I didn't ask about and have already seen. :tu

[Pavlov]

Good luck getting the Senate to sign off on that :lol

Nothing will happen, but you will spin your wheels regardless.So you think he'll be impeached too.

lol

[spurraider21]

Thanks for a giving me a link I didn't ask about and have already seen. :tu
based on your description of the upcoming IG report it seems like you hadn't read it before

[Pavlov]

'Memba Gorka when he tried to pimp the term "Obamagate"?

lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1072318080779460608
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1072319796560183296
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1072321091983630336
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1072322363277148160
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1072323611753672704

[Chris]

based on your description of the upcoming IG report it seems like you hadn't read it before

Nah, you were confused about the upcoming IG reports, and posted a random link for no reason. That's what happened.

[Chris]

'Memba Gorka when he tried to pimp the term "Obamagate"?

lol

Same thing as 'Spygate'. Gorka still living rent free I see :lol

[Pavlov]

Same thing as 'Spygate'. Gorka still living rent free I see :lolSuch failure is memorable, Stealth Citizen X.

[djohn2oo8]

So you think he'll be impeached too.

lol
:lol

[Chris]

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.makeagif.com%2Fmedia%2F12-04-2015%2FY5JVbX.gif&f=1

[djohn2oo8]

I guess that impeachment article struck a nerve with Chris

[Chucho]

Chris' gif is pretty much Boxscore in a nutshell.

I laughed a bit when he said someone "wasn't worth debating". Probably borrowed a derptionary because debating entails original thought and talking points. It is not posting demagoguery in Tweet form.

[Pavlov]

Really Chris, laughing at you is something anyone can do.

[djohn2oo8]

Chris' gif is pretty much Boxscore in a nutshell.

I laughed a bit when he said someone "wasn't worth debating". Probably borrowed a derptionary because debating entails original thought and talking points. It is not posting demagoguery in Tweet form.
Shouldn’t you go pretend to be a cashier at a 7-11? It’s almost that time.

[Chris]

I laughed a bit when he said someone "wasn't worth debating".

classic dodgerjohn tbh

[djohn2oo8]

classic dodgerjohn tbh
Trump felonies. Not Hillary.

[Chucho]

Shouldn’t you go pretend to be a cashier at a 7-11? It’s almost that time.


LOL, mad that you can't be trusted to run a cash register so you project on me. Shouldn't have tweeted you botch reading boxscores when your gas station bosses follow you, dipshit.

[spurraider21]

Nah, you were confused about the upcoming IG reports, and posted a random link for no reason. That's what happened.
wasn't confused tbh, was just asking if it's expected to be released soon.

and how is the OIG's press release about the FISA review "random" in a conversation about the OIG's Fisa review?

[djohn2oo8]

LOL, mad that you can't be trusted to run a cash register so you project on me. Shouldn't have tweeted you botch reading boxscores when your gas station bosses follow you, dipshit.
I just really don’t know of anyone who projects themselves as a fake Indian. Not sure who you are trying to be.

[Chucho]

I just really don’t know of anyone who projects themselves as a fake Indian. Not sure who you are trying to be.


C'mon, pal. Just once. ONCE, have your own unique thought. I'm about as non-Native as you are an independent thinker.

[Chucho]

You'll need WAYYYYY more time than Mueller gave Flynn, tho.

[djohn2oo8]

C'mon, pal. Just once. ONCE, have your own unique thought. I'm about as non-Native as you are an independent thinker.
Struck a nerve I see. And I know you are a non native. That’s why I called you a fake one. Not sure why you do the whole gig thing.

[Chucho]

Struck a nerve I see. And I know you are a non native. That’s why I called you a fake one. Not sure why you do the whole gig thing.


Yeah, really got me. Every response shitting on you is because you hurt me. And it's news to me that you know me. The only Asians I know are intelligent and can read box scores.

[DMX7]

Where there's "smock" [sic] there's fire.

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah, really got me. Every response shitting on you is because you hurt me. And it's news to me that you know me. The only Asians I know are intelligent and can read box scores.
Okay. Go run to the store and bring back one of those slushies.

[Chucho]

Okay. Go run to the store and bring back one of those slushies.


Oh man, that's funneee. See, you took the local nomenclature of my ethnicity and tried to use the geological/literal name to stereotype me as another ethnicity. Good stuff, racist John. So funny, so clever. I've never heard something sooo clever. You are just a funny guy.

[Pavlov]

Wait, is Chucho Indian or Indian?

[djohn2oo8]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ov9jWwYF3hXctTR5u/200w.gif

[djohn2oo8]

Wait, is Chucho Indian or Indian?
Not sure. I mean he just said he was non native and then turned around and said he is. Identity crisis I’m guessing.

[clambake]

Oh man, that's funneee. See, you took the local nomenclature of my ethnicity and tried to use the geological/literal name to stereotype me as another ethnicity. Good stuff, racist John. So funny, so clever. I've never heard something sooo clever. You are just a funny guy.

not piling on but..........you got no piece of the casino gig?

[Chucho]

not piling on but..........you got no piece of the casino gig?

My tribe is Commanche and my paternal great grandfather comes from the Oklahoma reservation where they are relatively new to having gaming rights enacted. To be honest, I dont follow tribe affairs as closely as I should and really push it as schtick here when professional black victims want to milk their ancestors pains for today's pity.

I dont focus too much on racial identity or align it with political and moral beliefs nor feel I should conform to the views that white racists like Spurs Homer think I should. But I am Native Murican and my birth certificate states such but feel no need to "cash in" on any benefits or play the "whitey did this to my people centuries ago, poor me." card.

I understand every major power in history committed atrocities in history and its token and hokey when today tries to apologize for yesterday. My view is learn from it as to avoid it, as should be applicable to all history.

But, again, it does give me chuckles seeing people upset when they know someone has more legs on the "muh victimization" routine or that I dont fall in with how they think I should feel about an entire race of people who have nothing to do with the genocide of my ancestors beyond a small percentage of them possibly being descendants of those people.

[Spurs Homer]

My tribe is Commanche and my paternal great grandfather comes from the Oklahoma reservation where they are relatively new to having gaming rights enacted. To be honest, I dont follow tribe affairs as closely as I should and really push it as schtick here when professional black victims want to milk their ancestors pains for today's pity.

I dont focus too much on racial identity or align it with political and moral beliefs nor feel I should conform to the views that white racists like Spurs Homer think I should. But I am Native Murican and my birth certificate states such but feel no need to "cash in" on any benefits or play the "whitey did this to my people centuries ago, poor me." card.

I understand every major power in history committed atrocities in history and its token and hokey when today tries to apologize for yesterday. My view is learn from it as to avoid it, as should be applicable to all history.

But, again, it does give me chuckles seeing people upset when they know someone has more legs on the "muh victimization" routine or that I dont fall in with how they think I should feel about an entire race of people who have nothing to do with the genocide of my ancestors beyond a small percentage of them possibly being descendants of those people.

that is a lot of tap-dancing to justify your defending a white supremacist lmao

in other words - you are a sellout to all native americans

:lol

[Winehole23]

David French in National Review:


as the sheer scale of the Trump team’s contacts with Russia starts to emerge, it’s time to relegate the “Russia hoax” theory to the dustbin of political history.


The idea that the FBI used the Russia investigation to intervene in the election to hurt Trump and help Clinton has always strained credulity. After all, the Russia investigation remained secret during the election while the FBI not only publicly reopened the Hillary email investigation (https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/andrew-mccabe-report-explodes-republican-and-democratic-myths-alike/), it also confirmed the existence of an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation and exposed rifts with the Obama Department of Justice — casting the FBI as heroically resisting Obama-administration pressure to avoid any “overt steps” in the Clinton Foundation investigation during the campaign.





Publicly the FBI torpedoed Clinton. Privately it investigated the Trump campaign.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/republicans-must-reject-russia-hoax-conspiracies-and-examine-the-evidence/

[Pavlov]

David French in National Review:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/republicans-must-reject-russia-hoax-conspiracies-and-examine-the-evidence/Wow, this "Individual-1" business may have been the last straw for a lot of folks on the right.

[Winehole23]

Under what reasoning is the FBI’s previous investigation of the Clinton Foundation legitimate but the investigation of copious contacts between the Russians and the Trump team illegitimate?

[Winehole23]

Wow, this "Individual-1" business may have been the last straw for a lot of folks on the right.NR aren't never Trumpers, but they were mean to Trump during the campaign; it's not so surprising.

[Winehole23]

The Trump team has surrounded the truth of its dealings with Russia with a bodyguard of lies. Not a single American should find that acceptable or excusable. Let’s find the truth and confront it fearlessly. No other approach will provide the justice and transparency America needs.

[Pavlov]

NR aren't never Trumpers, but they were mean to Trump during the campaign; it's not so surprising.I just remember the parade of McCarthy articles the past two years. Even that dude says he's going to be impeached now.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt9LH5vU8AA6Qrm.jpg

[Chucho]

that is a lot of tap-dancing to justify your defending a white supremacist lmao

in other words - you are a sellout to all native americans

:lol

More racism and LOLies from the resident brainwashed, angry cultist.

Any new tricks yet?

[Winehole23]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81PVBZXZOKL._SY500_.jpg (https://www.amazon.com/Get-20-off-More-Items/dp/B07DD11SHL)

[Chris]

Sherriff Clarke?

:lmao:lmao:lmao




































































































































































:lmao

[Winehole23]

Torshin and Butina. Try to focus.

(Clarke received a relative pittance for his time and trouble -- only 6000 smackers.)

[Chris]

:lmao

[diego]

but feel no need to "cash in" on any benefits or play the "whitey did this to my people centuries ago, poor me." card.

I understand every major power in history committed atrocities in history and its token and hokey when today tries to apologize for yesterday. My view is learn from it as to avoid it, as should be applicable to all history.

But, again, it does give me chuckles seeing people upset when they know someone has more legs on the "muh victimization" routine or that I dont fall in with how they think I should feel about an entire race of people who have nothing to do with the genocide of my ancestors beyond a small percentage of them possibly being descendants of those people.

There have been times I haven't taken govt benefits that I qualified for because I felt I didn't need them / others needed them more. That's commendable.
Its also well within anyone's rights to subscribe to the cultural/ethnical groups they were born into.
But your post talks about what happened to native Americans centuries ago... What about what's happened to them in the past 50, 40, 30, 30, 10, 5 years? Just because you or your tribe don't care it's just victim culture?
I don't question your heritage, I do question your knowledge of recent history.

[Winehole23]

:lmaoHad a foreign country used Planned Parenthood as a cutout to funnel $30M to HRC during the campaign you'd be all over it as a prima facie crime.

[boutons_deux]

As Trump slides in a new poll, reality begins piercing the bubble

A new CNN poll finds (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/11/politics/cnn-poll-trump-mueller-approval-rating/index.html) that Trump’s approval rating is mired at 39 percent, and

it shows that even as ongoing investigations involving Trump and his orbit are bearing fruit,

the American people continue to support the probe and believe it is turning up evidence of wrongdoing.

The highlights:



Only 29 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the Russia investigation, down from 33 percent last month, while the percentage disapproving has risen to 57 percent.
50 percent say special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe is very or somewhat likely to implicate Trump personally in wrongdoing, vs. 43 percent who say it won’t.
A plurality of 44 percent say Trump did something unethical by concealing his effort to build a Trump Tower in Moscow while campaigning for president, while another 26 percent say he did something unwise, and an abysmal 23 percent say he did nothing wrong. That last one, by the way, is Trump’s position.
59 percent say Russian interference in the election is a serious matter that should be investigated, vs. only 35 percent who say it’s about discrediting Trump’s presidency — i.e., that it’s what Trump calls a “witch hunt.”
54 percent say the things Trump has said about the investigation are completely or mostly false, vs. only 36 percent who say they’re true.


The bottom line is that large percentages of Americans — far more than the opposite — say

the investigation is pursuing legitimate and important matters;

that Trump has been lying about the investigation;

that it is already revealing wrongdoing on Trump’s part; and

that it will likely reveal still more of the same.

large majorities have said again and again since August 2017 that the Russia probe is examining a serious matter that should be investigated.

Going back to December 2017, majorities have repeatedly said Trump is lying about the investigation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/11/trump-slides-new-poll-reality-begins-piercing-bubble/?utm_term=.386c848770d4&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

I suppose Repug in-house org Rasmussen would find the opposite

[boutons_deux]

Trump Suddenly Expresses Deep Concern About Conditions in Nation’s Prisons

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report))—In a sudden departure from his previous views on incarceration, Donald J. Trump said on Monday that he was “very, very concerned” about conditions in the nation’s prisons.

“These are very, very bad places,”

Trump told reporters.

“These are not places you would want to be.”

Trump criticized the

“total lack of amenities” in the country’s federal penitentiaries, calling those prisons “a disgrace.”

“If you are locked up in one of those places,

there is no TV in your cell,” he said.

“And good luck getting a Diet Coke.

You can yell and yell and no one will go get you one.

It’s a very sad, very sick situation.”

In addition to blasting the conditions inside the nation’s prisons, Trump also

questioned whether “putting someone in jail for one or two felonies serves any purpose.”

“I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately,” he said.

“Prison solves nothing.”
https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-suddenly-expresses-deep-concern-about-conditions-in-nations-prisons (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-suddenly-expresses-deep-concern-about-conditions-in-nations-prisons)

[Winehole23]

McConnell just announced there will be a vote on the criminal justice bill.

[boutons_deux]

William Barr Once Said ‘Roe v. Wade’ Should Be Overturned

President Donald Trump on Friday announced he plans to nominate William Barr to replace Jeff Sessions as attorney general.

Under Sessions’ guidance, the U.S. Department of Justice

supported restrictive voter ID laws,

defended the Muslim ban,

endorsed separating asylum-seeking parents from their children,

reversed Obama-era guidance protecting LGBTQ rights, and

argued for a right to block undocumented immigrant minors in their custody from obtaining abortions.

It’s hard to imagine the situation getting any worse for vulnerable people.
He’s called abortion a result of secular “fanatics” wreaking havoc on the “Judeo-Christian moral tradition.”
https://rewire.news/article/2018/12/07/william-barr-once-said-roe-v-wade-should-be-overturned/

Barr isn't taking the job as patriotic duty, he's taking it to impose Christian Sharia on America.

[Trill Clinton]

Pelosi and Schumer just took a shit on trump. Wow.

[boutons_deux]

McConnell just announced there will be a vote on the criminal justice bill.

... which is a fraud, for not touching sentencing reform.

[boutons_deux]

BUSTED: Rudy Giuliani caught undermining Trump sanctions against corruption in the Congo

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Rudy-Giuliani.jpg

The corruption surrounding President Donald Trump includes close allies lobbying the administration for foreign governments targeted by US sanctions,

Two leaders of Trump’s legal defense were featured in an article. Rudy Giuliani as Trump’s defense attorney and Alan Dershowitz, who frequently defends the administration on cable news.

“The Congolese officials at the reception posed for photos with Mr. Giuliani, and afterward there was some confusion about his connection to the lobbying effort,”

On Sunday, in text messages, Giuliani admitted negotiating a consulting deal in the Democratic Republican of Congo.

Giuliani said, “if I do it, it would only be security consulting” and not lobbying.

“Dershowitz also has a long history of representing clients in transnational legal matters, including sanctions,” The Times noted.

“Dershowitz is advising Dan Gertler, an Israeli billionaire

who was the target of sanctions by Washington last year for using his connections to [Joseph] Kabila, the Congolese president,

to facilitate what the Treasury Department called opaque and corrupt mining and oil deals.'”

Former Trump campaign aide Bryan Lanza has lobbied to delay sanctions against Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/busted-rudy-giuliani-caught-undermining-trump-sanctions-corruption-congo/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Trill Clinton]

that is a lot of tap-dancing to justify your defending a white supremacist lmao

in other words - you are a sellout to all native americans

:lol

Bruh lmao

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1072561318421516288?s=19

[vy65]

classic dodgerjohn tbh

You don't get to call anyone a dodger little buddy

[boutons_deux]

Extremist, dominionist Christian indoctrination / Bible humping has fried Pence's brain, like it has for so many others.

Actually, I think Bible humping found little to work with between Pence's ears. An easy victim. Racist Indiana should be proud.

[boutons_deux]

Happy trails to you, Genl K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkwN1JxBbek

[Pavlov]

On Dec. 11, 1968, Mueller led a platoon of Marines into an eight-hour battle around an extensive complex of North Vietnamese army bunkers. The enemy hit Mueller’s men with a “heavy volume of small arms, automatic weapons, and grenade launcher fire,” according to a Marine Corps account.

As his platoon suffered heavy casualties, “Second Lieutenant Mueller fearlessly moved from one position to another, directing the accurate counterfire of his men and shouting words of encouragement to them,” the account said.

Mueller set up a defensive perimeter and “with complete disregard for his own safety, he then skillfully supervised the evacuation of casualties from the hazardous fire area,” as the Marines put it. Mueller led a team across the smoldering terrain and into a North Vietnamese-controlled area to recover a mortally wounded Marine. For that, he earned a Bronze Star Medal with “V” distinction for combat valor. He was promoted to first lieutenant.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-and-trump-born-to-wealth-raised-to-lead-then-sharply-different-choices/2018/02/22/ad50b7bc-0a99-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpmueller-740a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcb4f7602b89

Momentous 50th anniversary.

But he's the bad guy....

[Spurs Homer]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-and-trump-born-to-wealth-raised-to-lead-then-sharply-different-choices/2018/02/22/ad50b7bc-0a99-11e8-8b0d-891602206fb7_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpmueller-740a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.dcb4f7602b89

Momentous 50th anniversary.

But he's the bad guy....

The Cult think that Captain Bone Spurs is a yuuuge hero!

[LkrFan]

1072686279727427591

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/47572328_2463382143754825_7229788392899215360_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=8519016f922cce0c69bf2a5976c0c044&oe=5C9BC434

[TSA]

Memo: FBI recommended Michael Flynn not have lawyer present during interview, did not warn of false statement consequences

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who arranged the bureau's interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 — the interview that ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on one count of making false statements — suggested Flynn not have a lawyer present at the session, according to newly-filed court documents. In addition, FBI officials, along with the two agents who interviewed Flynn, decided specifically not to warn him that there would be penalties for making false statements because the agents wanted to ensure that Flynn was "relaxed" during the session.

The new information, drawn from McCabe's account of events plus the FBI agents' writeup of the interview — the so-called 302 report — is contained in a sentencing memo filed Tuesday by Flynn's defense team.

Citing McCabe's account, the sentencing memo says that shortly after noon on Jan. 24 — the fourth day of the new Trump administration — McCabe called Flynn on a secure phone in Flynn's West Wing office. The two men discussed business briefly and then McCabe said that he "felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down" with Flynn to discuss Flynn's talks with Russian officials during the presidential transition.

McCabe, by his own account, urged Flynn to talk to the agents alone, without a lawyer present. "I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between [Flynn] and the agents only," McCabe wrote. "I further stated that if LTG Flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the White House counsel for instance, that I would need to involve the Department of Justice. [Flynn] stated that this would not be necessary and agreed to meet with the agents without any additional participants."

Within two hours, the agents were in Flynn's office. According to the 302 report quoted in the Flynn sentencing document, the agents said Flynn was "relaxed and jocular" and offered the agents "a little tour" of his part of the White House.

"The agents did not provide Gen. Flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement under 18 U.S.C. 1001 before, during, or after the interview," the Flynn memo says. According to the 302, before the interview, McCabe and other FBI officials "decided the agents would not warn Flynn that it was a crime to lie during an FBI interview because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport."

The agents had, of course, seen transcripts of Flynn's wiretapped conversations with Russian then-ambassador Sergey Kislyak. "Before the interview, FBI officials had also decided that if 'Flynn said he did not remember something they knew he said, they would use the exact words Flynn used ... to try to refresh his recollection. If Flynn still would not confirm what he said ... they would not confront him or talk him through it,'" the Flynn memo says, citing the FBI 302.

"One of the agents reported that Gen. Flynn was 'unguarded' during the interview and 'clearly saw the FBI agents as allies,'" the Flynn memo says, again citing the 302.

That is all the sentencing document contains about the interview itself. In a footnote, Flynn's lawyers noted that the government did not object to the quotations from the FBI 302 report.

In one striking detail, footnotes in the Flynn memo say the 302 report cited was dated Aug. 22, 2017 — nearly seven months after the Flynn interview. It is not clear why the report would be written so long after the interview itself.

The brief excerpts from the 302 used in the Flynn defense memo will likely spur more requests from Congress to see the original FBI documents. Both House and Senate investigating committees have demanded that the Justice Department allow them to see the Flynn 302, but have so far been refused.

In the memo, Flynn's lawyers say that he made a "serious error in judgment" in the interview. Citing Flynn's distinguished 30-plus year record of service in the U.S. Army, they ask the judge to go along with special counsel Robert Mueller's recommendation that Flynn be spared any time in prison.

Flynn is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 18.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/memo-fbi-recommended-michael-flynn-not-have-lawyer-present-during-interview-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true


1072706388231639040

1004818820358262784

:bobo

[Chris]

Holy shit :lol

[FrostKing]

:lmao Michael Flynn, noted cowardly pussy snitch.
Worked in the White House for 24 days

[Pavlov]

Memo: FBI recommended Michael Flynn not have lawyer present during interview, did not warn of false statement consequences

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who arranged the bureau's interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 — the interview that ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on one count of making false statements — suggested Flynn not have a lawyer present at the session, according to newly-filed court documents. In addition, FBI officials, along with the two agents who interviewed Flynn, decided specifically not to warn him that there would be penalties for making false statements because the agents wanted to ensure that Flynn was "relaxed" during the session.

The new information, drawn from McCabe's account of events plus the FBI agents' writeup of the interview — the so-called 302 report — is contained in a sentencing memo filed Tuesday by Flynn's defense team.

Citing McCabe's account, the sentencing memo says that shortly after noon on Jan. 24 — the fourth day of the new Trump administration — McCabe called Flynn on a secure phone in Flynn's West Wing office. The two men discussed business briefly and then McCabe said that he "felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down" with Flynn to discuss Flynn's talks with Russian officials during the presidential transition.

McCabe, by his own account, urged Flynn to talk to the agents alone, without a lawyer present. "I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between [Flynn] and the agents only," McCabe wrote. "I further stated that if LTG Flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the White House counsel for instance, that I would need to involve the Department of Justice. [Flynn] stated that this would not be necessary and agreed to meet with the agents without any additional participants."

Within two hours, the agents were in Flynn's office. According to the 302 report quoted in the Flynn sentencing document, the agents said Flynn was "relaxed and jocular" and offered the agents "a little tour" of his part of the White House.

"The agents did not provide Gen. Flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement under 18 U.S.C. 1001 before, during, or after the interview," the Flynn memo says. According to the 302, before the interview, McCabe and other FBI officials "decided the agents would not warn Flynn that it was a crime to lie during an FBI interview because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport."

The agents had, of course, seen transcripts of Flynn's wiretapped conversations with Russian then-ambassador Sergey Kislyak. "Before the interview, FBI officials had also decided that if 'Flynn said he did not remember something they knew he said, they would use the exact words Flynn used ... to try to refresh his recollection. If Flynn still would not confirm what he said ... they would not confront him or talk him through it,'" the Flynn memo says, citing the FBI 302.

"One of the agents reported that Gen. Flynn was 'unguarded' during the interview and 'clearly saw the FBI agents as allies,'" the Flynn memo says, again citing the 302.

That is all the sentencing document contains about the interview itself. In a footnote, Flynn's lawyers noted that the government did not object to the quotations from the FBI 302 report.

In one striking detail, footnotes in the Flynn memo say the 302 report cited was dated Aug. 22, 2017 — nearly seven months after the Flynn interview. It is not clear why the report would be written so long after the interview itself.

The brief excerpts from the 302 used in the Flynn defense memo will likely spur more requests from Congress to see the original FBI documents. Both House and Senate investigating committees have demanded that the Justice Department allow them to see the Flynn 302, but have so far been refused.

In the memo, Flynn's lawyers say that he made a "serious error in judgment" in the interview. Citing Flynn's distinguished 30-plus year record of service in the U.S. Army, they ask the judge to go along with special counsel Robert Mueller's recommendation that Flynn be spared any time in prison.

Flynn is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 18.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/memo-fbi-recommended-michael-flynn-not-have-lawyer-present-during-interview-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true


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:boboso he's going to take back all hi cooperation?

lol techno fog

[Chris]

lol "you don't need a lawyer, we're just your friendly neighborhood FBI"

[Spurs Homer]

Memo: FBI recommended Michael Flynn not have lawyer present during interview, did not warn of false statement consequences

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who arranged the bureau's interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 — the interview that ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on one count of making false statements — suggested Flynn not have a lawyer present at the session, according to newly-filed court documents. In addition, FBI officials, along with the two agents who interviewed Flynn, decided specifically not to warn him that there would be penalties for making false statements because the agents wanted to ensure that Flynn was "relaxed" during the session.

The new information, drawn from McCabe's account of events plus the FBI agents' writeup of the interview — the so-called 302 report — is contained in a sentencing memo filed Tuesday by Flynn's defense team.

Citing McCabe's account, the sentencing memo says that shortly after noon on Jan. 24 — the fourth day of the new Trump administration — McCabe called Flynn on a secure phone in Flynn's West Wing office. The two men discussed business briefly and then McCabe said that he "felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down" with Flynn to discuss Flynn's talks with Russian officials during the presidential transition.

McCabe, by his own account, urged Flynn to talk to the agents alone, without a lawyer present. "I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between [Flynn] and the agents only," McCabe wrote. "I further stated that if LTG Flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the White House counsel for instance, that I would need to involve the Department of Justice. [Flynn] stated that this would not be necessary and agreed to meet with the agents without any additional participants."

Within two hours, the agents were in Flynn's office. According to the 302 report quoted in the Flynn sentencing document, the agents said Flynn was "relaxed and jocular" and offered the agents "a little tour" of his part of the White House.

"The agents did not provide Gen. Flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement under 18 U.S.C. 1001 before, during, or after the interview," the Flynn memo says. According to the 302, before the interview, McCabe and other FBI officials "decided the agents would not warn Flynn that it was a crime to lie during an FBI interview because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport."

The agents had, of course, seen transcripts of Flynn's wiretapped conversations with Russian then-ambassador Sergey Kislyak. "Before the interview, FBI officials had also decided that if 'Flynn said he did not remember something they knew he said, they would use the exact words Flynn used ... to try to refresh his recollection. If Flynn still would not confirm what he said ... they would not confront him or talk him through it,'" the Flynn memo says, citing the FBI 302.

"One of the agents reported that Gen. Flynn was 'unguarded' during the interview and 'clearly saw the FBI agents as allies,'" the Flynn memo says, again citing the 302.

That is all the sentencing document contains about the interview itself. In a footnote, Flynn's lawyers noted that the government did not object to the quotations from the FBI 302 report.

In one striking detail, footnotes in the Flynn memo say the 302 report cited was dated Aug. 22, 2017 — nearly seven months after the Flynn interview. It is not clear why the report would be written so long after the interview itself.

The brief excerpts from the 302 used in the Flynn defense memo will likely spur more requests from Congress to see the original FBI documents. Both House and Senate investigating committees have demanded that the Justice Department allow them to see the Flynn 302, but have so far been refused.

In the memo, Flynn's lawyers say that he made a "serious error in judgment" in the interview. Citing Flynn's distinguished 30-plus year record of service in the U.S. Army, they ask the judge to go along with special counsel Robert Mueller's recommendation that Flynn be spared any time in prison.

Flynn is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 18.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/memo-fbi-recommended-michael-flynn-not-have-lawyer-present-during-interview-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true


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Mr. "I shit the bed conspiracy theorist" - with the nothing-burger! :lol:lol

Mischaracterizing the Flynn lawyers brief - in the FIRST LINE! -

You idiot - here is what really happened and it was a BRILLIANT move from the FBI;

Comey described it all in his interview with Nicole Wallace...

Comey was the Director and they had gotten info on Flynn and decided they would need to speak to Flynn.
In a normal white house Comey says, they would have probably had a set of rules , a protocol to follow and white house counsel and a long chain of command to alert - but - he says - "this was the dysfunctional trump white house" so Comey said - ah what the heck I will just send a couple of agents over.

They called Flynn and he was in a jovial mood and seemed to be really open and even offered to show the agents around! :lol:lol

Two agents meet with Flynn and - THEY ADVISED HIM - "we can just chat - or if YOU'D LIKE - we can inform white house counsel and we can have a more formal mtg" - but Flynn waves them off and says no we can just chat. :lol:lol

So they did.

Then FLYNN LIED!!!!

:lol:lol

Brilliant!

You idiot - Flynn was not under arrest - we are not questioning "miranda" rights - this was a courtesy/informal FBI interview which was voluntary and at any time Flynn could have had counsel present - but - HE DECLINED!:lol:lol

The FBI had no obligation to flash warning lights and make a big production and announce some ominous danger to Flynn by just talking and answering a few questions. Flynn - on the other hand - as the top level white house big shot - could have used common sense - and -

told the truth!

Like most of Trump team though - he LIED

The FBI did nothing wrong at all - unless you are a retarded cult conspiracy theorist who believes that the entire USA intelligence community became rotten on the day that dear leader was fraudulently elected and installed by Russia.

Brilliant move by Comey to be cool, send a couple of agents over (which the Flynn attorneys were more than happy to name - because they knew cult trumptards would jizz in their panties immediately) and obtain great intel without alerting/tipping off anyone.

Probably because Flynn was already guilty - did he just wave off the proper white house protocol because - like a criminal who is guilty - he thought he could just think on his feet and bullshit the FBI without anyone at the white house becoming alarmed.

:lol:lol

FBI two steps ahead of the criminal traitors!

[Winehole23]

Memo: FBI recommended Michael Flynn not have lawyer present during interview, did not warn of false statement consequences

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who arranged the bureau's interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 — the interview that ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on one count of making false statements — suggested Flynn not have a lawyer present at the session, according to newly-filed court documents. In addition, FBI officials, along with the two agents who interviewed Flynn, decided specifically not to warn him that there would be penalties for making false statements because the agents wanted to ensure that Flynn was "relaxed" during the session.

The new information, drawn from McCabe's account of events plus the FBI agents' writeup of the interview — the so-called 302 report — is contained in a sentencing memo filed Tuesday by Flynn's defense team.

Citing McCabe's account, the sentencing memo says that shortly after noon on Jan. 24 — the fourth day of the new Trump administration — McCabe called Flynn on a secure phone in Flynn's West Wing office. The two men discussed business briefly and then McCabe said that he "felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down" with Flynn to discuss Flynn's talks with Russian officials during the presidential transition.

McCabe, by his own account, urged Flynn to talk to the agents alone, without a lawyer present. "I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between [Flynn] and the agents only," McCabe wrote. "I further stated that if LTG Flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the White House counsel for instance, that I would need to involve the Department of Justice. [Flynn] stated that this would not be necessary and agreed to meet with the agents without any additional participants."

Within two hours, the agents were in Flynn's office. According to the 302 report quoted in the Flynn sentencing document, the agents said Flynn was "relaxed and jocular" and offered the agents "a little tour" of his part of the White House.

"The agents did not provide Gen. Flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement under 18 U.S.C. 1001 before, during, or after the interview," the Flynn memo says. According to the 302, before the interview, McCabe and other FBI officials "decided the agents would not warn Flynn that it was a crime to lie during an FBI interview because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport."

The agents had, of course, seen transcripts of Flynn's wiretapped conversations with Russian then-ambassador Sergey Kislyak. "Before the interview, FBI officials had also decided that if 'Flynn said he did not remember something they knew he said, they would use the exact words Flynn used ... to try to refresh his recollection. If Flynn still would not confirm what he said ... they would not confront him or talk him through it,'" the Flynn memo says, citing the FBI 302.

"One of the agents reported that Gen. Flynn was 'unguarded' during the interview and 'clearly saw the FBI agents as allies,'" the Flynn memo says, again citing the 302.

That is all the sentencing document contains about the interview itself. In a footnote, Flynn's lawyers noted that the government did not object to the quotations from the FBI 302 report.

In one striking detail, footnotes in the Flynn memo say the 302 report cited was dated Aug. 22, 2017 — nearly seven months after the Flynn interview. It is not clear why the report would be written so long after the interview itself.

The brief excerpts from the 302 used in the Flynn defense memo will likely spur more requests from Congress to see the original FBI documents. Both House and Senate investigating committees have demanded that the Justice Department allow them to see the Flynn 302, but have so far been refused.

In the memo, Flynn's lawyers say that he made a "serious error in judgment" in the interview. Citing Flynn's distinguished 30-plus year record of service in the U.S. Army, they ask the judge to go along with special counsel Robert Mueller's recommendation that Flynn be spared any time in prison.

Flynn is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 18.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/memo-fbi-recommended-michael-flynn-not-have-lawyer-present-during-interview-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true


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:boboTHEY DIDN'T TELL ME THEY ALREADY KNEW THE ANSWERS WHEN THEY ASKED THE QUESTIONS

[Spurs Homer]

THEY DIDN'T TELL ME THEY ALREADY KNEW THE ANSWERS WHEN THEY ASKED THE QUESTIONS


:lol

I suggest people look up that Comey/Nicole Wallace interview that aired this week - it has tons of info that connects MORE dots.

[djohn2oo8]

Wait, didn’t TSA say Hillary lied to the FBI? But now says Flynn didn’t and couldn’t have known? That lying was bad? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Just so I get this absolutely fucking straight. A career military man did not know that lying to the FBI is bad? :rollin

[LkrFan]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/47572328_2463382143754825_7229788392899215360_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=8519016f922cce0c69bf2a5976c0c044&oe=5C9BC434

:lol

[LkrFan]

Just so I get this absolutely fucking straight. A career military man did not know that lying to the FBI is bad? :rollin

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

1072891725545385984

:lol

[Winehole23]

Just so I get this absolutely fucking straight. A career military man did not know that lying to the FBI is bad? :rollinor that it would be a good idea to bring a lawyer

[spurraider21]

Just so I get this absolutely fucking straight. A career military man did not know that lying to the FBI is bad? :rollin
:lol

[Spurs Homer]

How long before we hear that the felon traitor criminal in chief - got on a plane and disappeared...



:wakeup

[boutons_deux]

Just so I get this absolutely fucking straight. A career military man did not know that lying to the FBI is bad? :rollin

... so Trash-qualified to be National SECURITY Advisor. Trash probably hired him just because Obama fired him.

[djohn2oo8]

... so Trash-qualified to be National SECURITY Advisor. Trash probably hired him just because Obama fired him.
Yes Obama warned him not to hire Flynn

[boutons_deux]

Trump just predicted ‘revolt’ if he’s impeached. At what point would impeachment be justified?

President Trump was asked if he’s worried about the prospect of getting impeached by the incoming House Democratic majority.

“I’m not concerned, no,” Trump replied. “I think that the people would revolt if that happened.”

top Democrats are flirting (https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/12/09/jerry-nadler-president-trump-michael-cohen-impeachable-offenses-sotu-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/) with the idea, and CNN reports that a source close to

Trump says (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/10/politics/trump-impeachment-concern/index.html) he views it as a “real possibility.”

Other Republicans agree.

Tom Davis, a former senior member of the House GOP leadership, tells CNBC’s John Harwood (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/11/trump-is-desperately-trying-to-project-strength--but-hes-only-showing-how-weak-he-has-become.html) that depending on what emerges, he believes it’s

conceivable some GOP Senators might vote to convict.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/12/trump-just-predicted-revolt-if-hes-impeached-what-point-would-it-be-justified/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4bf98988cfc3

[djohn2oo8]

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[DMC]

When all this settles, DJohn can get back to his life of being ignored by his party of choice :lol

[djohn2oo8]

When all this settles, DJohn can get back to his life of being ignored by his party of choice :lol
When this is all settled your hands will still be ignored by exercise.

[Pavlov]

1072970642356625410KING SPOOK DIDN'T KNOW LYING TO THE FBI BAD

[Pavlov]

I'm looking forward to see what Huber will reveal to congress on the 5th as he's been working with the OIG for over a year. If shit is going to fly it's coming from Huber's side.


To the great disappointment of the believers of a far-right conspiracy theory about a coming crackdown on a Democratic pedophilia ring, U.S. Attorney John Huber won’t testify at a House Oversight subcommittee hearing Thursday, as the subcommittee’s chair, Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) had initially hyped.

Justice Department spokeswoman Kerri Kupic said that Huber wouldn’t be appearing at the hearing — which will focus on how the DOJ is handling allegations against the Clinton Foundation — “[c]onsistent with conversations between the Department and the committee.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/john-huber-qanon-house-oversight-hearing

Your leg has to be tired by now.

https://i.gifer.com/3Rzg.gif

[spurraider21]

1072970642356625410
if only his legal defense fund did better he could have hired better attorneys

[spurraider21]

When all this settles, DJohn can get back to his life of being ignored by his party of choice :lol
when all this settles DMC will continue to chirp

[DarrinS]

Russia really went “all in” on their Google ad campaign


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fELg3ws7aj4

$4,700

:lmao

[Pavlov]

:lol Darrin redassing his ignorance of social media.

[Spurminator]

If Darrin had been following the NRA/Russia stories he'd know that direct spending from Russian accounts to social media platforms isn't really where the dollars are coming from.

[Spurminator]

Not to mention that the use of bot farms doesn't constitute payment to YouTube/Facebook, etc.

Inb4 "muh bot farms"

[TSA]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/john-huber-qanon-house-oversight-hearing

Your leg has to be tired by now.

https://i.gifer.com/3Rzg.gif


If shit is going to fly it's coming from Huber's side.

Did you think Huber was working on this alone and didn’t have a TEAM of US Attoreys? :lol

[Pavlov]

Did you think Huber was working on this alone and didn’t have a TEAM of US Attoreys?
:lol
https://media1.tenor.com/images/83116dac5575fef19f9a39e17984e7bd/tenor.giflol TSA

[TSA]

Memo: FBI recommended Michael Flynn not have lawyer present during interview, did not warn of false statement consequences

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who arranged the bureau's interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 — the interview that ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on one count of making false statements — suggested Flynn not have a lawyer present at the session, according to newly-filed court documents. In addition, FBI officials, along with the two agents who interviewed Flynn, decided specifically not to warn him that there would be penalties for making false statements because the agents wanted to ensure that Flynn was "relaxed" during the session.

The new information, drawn from McCabe's account of events plus the FBI agents' writeup of the interview — the so-called 302 report — is contained in a sentencing memo filed Tuesday by Flynn's defense team.

Citing McCabe's account, the sentencing memo says that shortly after noon on Jan. 24 — the fourth day of the new Trump administration — McCabe called Flynn on a secure phone in Flynn's West Wing office. The two men discussed business briefly and then McCabe said that he "felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down" with Flynn to discuss Flynn's talks with Russian officials during the presidential transition.

McCabe, by his own account, urged Flynn to talk to the agents alone, without a lawyer present. "I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between [Flynn] and the agents only," McCabe wrote. "I further stated that if LTG Flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the White House counsel for instance, that I would need to involve the Department of Justice. [Flynn] stated that this would not be necessary and agreed to meet with the agents without any additional participants."

Within two hours, the agents were in Flynn's office. According to the 302 report quoted in the Flynn sentencing document, the agents said Flynn was "relaxed and jocular" and offered the agents "a little tour" of his part of the White House.

"The agents did not provide Gen. Flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement under 18 U.S.C. 1001 before, during, or after the interview," the Flynn memo says. According to the 302, before the interview, McCabe and other FBI officials "decided the agents would not warn Flynn that it was a crime to lie during an FBI interview because they wanted Flynn to be relaxed, and they were concerned that giving the warnings might adversely affect the rapport."

The agents had, of course, seen transcripts of Flynn's wiretapped conversations with Russian then-ambassador Sergey Kislyak. "Before the interview, FBI officials had also decided that if 'Flynn said he did not remember something they knew he said, they would use the exact words Flynn used ... to try to refresh his recollection. If Flynn still would not confirm what he said ... they would not confront him or talk him through it,'" the Flynn memo says, citing the FBI 302.

"One of the agents reported that Gen. Flynn was 'unguarded' during the interview and 'clearly saw the FBI agents as allies,'" the Flynn memo says, again citing the 302.

That is all the sentencing document contains about the interview itself. In a footnote, Flynn's lawyers noted that the government did not object to the quotations from the FBI 302 report.

In one striking detail, footnotes in the Flynn memo say the 302 report cited was dated Aug. 22, 2017 — nearly seven months after the Flynn interview. It is not clear why the report would be written so long after the interview itself.

The brief excerpts from the 302 used in the Flynn defense memo will likely spur more requests from Congress to see the original FBI documents. Both House and Senate investigating committees have demanded that the Justice Department allow them to see the Flynn 302, but have so far been refused.

In the memo, Flynn's lawyers say that he made a "serious error in judgment" in the interview. Citing Flynn's distinguished 30-plus year record of service in the U.S. Army, they ask the judge to go along with special counsel Robert Mueller's recommendation that Flynn be spared any time in prison.

Flynn is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 18.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/memo-fbi-recommended-michael-flynn-not-have-lawyer-present-during-interview-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true


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incoming altered/destroyed 302’s :bobo

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[TSA]

lol TSA


Huber’s side

comprehension fail :lol

[Pavlov]

incoming altered/destroyed 302’s :bobo

1072999795155816448Too bad Flynn pleaded guilty after actually lying to the FBI.

[Pavlov]

comprehension fail :lolSo whose testimony from team Huber are you most looking forward to?

Give some names without a frantic search.

[TSA]

Too bad Flynn pleaded guilty after actually lying to the FBI.

And he’s not seeing a second in prison.

What will be your spin if it’s revealed 302’s were altered/destroyed?

Why would a 302 be altered/destroyed?

[Pavlov]

And he’s not seeing a second prison.Because he was a good, good boy and cooperated fully with the authorities.


What will be your spin if it’s revealed 302’s were altered/destroyed?

Why would a 302 be altered/destroyed?Don't care. It's all academic at this point.

Flynn pleaded guilty. Nothing is going to change that -- unless you have a new theory about what's going to happen.

Do you have a new theory about what's going to happen, TSA?

[TSA]

So whose testimony from team Huber are you most looking forward to?

Give some names without a frantic search.

so desperate to go in the weeds :lol

[TSA]

Because he was a good, good boy and cooperated fully with the authorities.

Don't care. It's all academic at this point.

Flynn pleaded guilty. Nothing is going to change that -- unless you have a new theory about what's going to happen.

Do you have a new theory about what's going to happen, TSA?

You don’t care if 302’s were altered or destroyed?

[Pavlov]

so desperate to go in the weeds :lolI don't see any names, TSA.

Whose testimony from team Huber are you most looking forward to?

[Pavlov]

You don’t care if 302’s were altered or destroyed?Nope. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

He stated under oath he lied to the FBI.

He cooperated with the authorities for over a year because he lied to the FBI.

What new theory do you have that changes that, TSA?

Be specific.

[TSA]

I don't see any names, TSA.

Whose testimony from team Huber are you most looking forward to?

No shit you don’t see names I’m not going into the weeds with you. I’m looking forward to anyone from Huber’s team.

[Pavlov]

No shit you don’t see namesBecause you don't know anyone besides Huber, who just blew this meeting off.

lol TSA

[TSA]

Nope. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

He stated under oath he lied to the FBI.

He cooperated with the authorities for over a year because he lied to the FBI.

What new theory do you have that changes that, TSA?

Be specific.

I don’t have a new theory....


You don’t care if 302’s were altered or destroyed?


Nope.

...but wow.

[Pavlov]

I don’t have a new theory....





...but wow.Nothing you have said would change the fact that Flynn lied to the FBI and pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

Do you have any theory that would change that?

techno fog?

Undercover Huber?

Q?

[Pavlov]

If this turns out to be some kind of master stroke by King Spook and his legal team, then hat tip.

Haven't seen much that suggests that.

[Spurs Homer]

Tsa shitting the bed again lol

[DarrinS]

Tsa shitting the bed again lol

Did Drumpf get on AF1 and fly to Russia yet? I saw that you posted that a couple of times today.

[TSA]

If this turns out to be some kind of master stroke by King Spook and his legal team, then hat tip.

Haven't seen much that suggests that.

And so begins the slow walk back.

[Pavlov]

And so begins the slow walk back.Nope. I don't think that's what happened at all.

I just said that.

Do you think that is what happened, TSA?

Yes or no.

You certainly have in the past.

[DMC]

when all this settles DMC will continue to chirp

It's amazing you didn't wait for your daddy to chirp in first so you could parrot his stolen shtick.

[DMC]

Nope. I don't think that's what happened at all.

I just said that.

Do you think that is what happened, TSA?

Yes or no.

You certainly have in the past.

https://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/walk-hard-the-dewey-cox-story-2007/large_xq9Ro4UNCxSSGV40WUIAlNd4HaK.jpg

[Pavlov]

*chirp*

[Spurs Homer]

Did Drumpf get on AF1 and fly to Russia yet? I saw that you posted that a couple of times today.

Won't surprise anyone if he does.

What do criminals do when cornered?

Try to run

or

commit more crimes if they are allowed to.

[DarrinS]

Won't surprise anyone if he does.

What do criminals do when cornered?

Try to run

or

commit more crimes if they are allowed to.


Let us all know when he escapes to Russia. :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Let us all know when he escapes to Russia. :lmao


It will be either Russia -

or a US prison - which do you think he will choose?

[DarrinS]

It will be either Russia -

or a US prison - which do you think he will choose?


It’s immensely enjoyable reading the left’s delusional fantasies. :lmao

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1073002272416772097?s=21

Ohr shit

[ElNono]

incoming altered/destroyed 302’s :bobo

1072999795155816448


https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1073002272416772097?s=21

Ohr shit

hey TSA, what are we to infer from your post and the repeat from twitter bot later on? Honest question.

From what I can tell the Judge wants to have all the information referred to the filings. That's a good thing?

[Chris]

^another troll that doesn't know what's going on


Strzok and Pientka were the lead agents in charge of investigating Flynn. Their conclusion was that Flynn didn't lie and everything was fine. Mueller and his team of prosecutors decided to press charges after the fact. Do you understand what is happening now?

[Brazil]

^another troll that doesn't know what's going on




:lmao now that's rich

[Spurs Homer]

^another troll that doesn't know what's going on


Strzok and Pientka were the lead agents in charge of investigating Flynn. Their conclusion was that Flynn didn't lie and everything was fine. Mueller and his team of prosecutors decided to press charges after the fact. Do you understand what is happening now?


Lol. Strock good now?

[ElNono]

^another troll that doesn't know what's going on

Strzok and Pientka were the lead agents in charge of investigating Flynn. Their conclusion was that Flynn didn't lie and everything was fine. Mueller and his team of prosecutors decided to press charges after the fact. Do you understand what is happening now?

Where's the trolling? What's "going on" is just in your head, wishful thinking, what is it?

The judge order doesn't mention Strzok, Pientka or anybody, he's just requesting both parties to submit the 302's.

Honestly, if something is improper there, Judge should certainly act on that IMO. But there's certainly no indication so far that's the case, thus the question.

[DarrinS]

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[Winehole23]

what does the report say, Darrin?

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

1073267098695155714

[djohn2oo8]

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[Winehole23]

Sherriff Clarke?

:lmao:lmao:lmao




































































































































































:lmaothis was the meeting at the Kremlin set up by an admitted Russian spy, Maria Butina.

rephrase?

[Winehole23]

1073270900538134529

[Winehole23]

MOVE ALONG NOTHING TO SEE HERE, JUST A HARMLESS FRENSHIP DINNER AT THE KREMLIN

[Winehole23]

No legal repercussions for DJT here: egg is on the face of the NRA and the GOP stooges who sucked up to foriegn spies.

(Butina's fleeting face time with Trump ended with him saying something vaguely conciliatory about sanctions.)

[spurraider21]

what does the report say, Darrin?
Don’t get hung up on the details

[Spurs Homer]

No legal repercussions for DJT here: egg is on the face of the NRA and the GOP stooges who sucked up to foriegn spies.

(Butina's fleeting face time with Trump ended with him saying something vaguely conciliatory about sanctions.)

We do not know that yet - this could very much have everything to do with the traitor.

These dots are all being connected - even if there are different/separate law enforcement agencies working on their own respective cases. They will definitely end up tying together.

This Russian infiltration had several different missions and they all had a purpose -

install Trump as president -
insert confusion and division in the usa/politics
get the sanctions lifted
get rid of hrc if possible
control the usa from within

and you can see how the GOP and Trump jump whenever Putin orders them to.

[Winehole23]

it's not reasonable to conclude that every bit of bad news that comes out has fatal implications for DJT

[Winehole23]

that's how you discredit yourself, one FAKE BOOM at a time

[DarrinS]

We do not know that yet - this could very much have everything to do with the traitor.

These dots are all being connected - even if there are different/separate law enforcement agencies working on their own respective cases. They will definitely end up tying together.

This Russian infiltration had several different missions and they all had a purpose -

install Trump as president -
insert confusion and division in the usa/politics
get the sanctions lifted
get rid of hrc if possible
control the usa from within

and you can see how the GOP and Trump jump whenever Putin orders them to.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/mt/food/tinfoilthumb330.jpg

[Winehole23]

hey Darrin, do you have a take on the OIG report you just posted or were you just squirreling it away for the winter?

[boutons_deux]

If some of the NRA's $54M spent on Trash came from Russia, and NRA told Trash it was from Russia,

then NRA is dead, having laundered Russian money for Trash's campaign

Trash is guilty of knowing but not reporting NRA's crime committed to assist Trash. Trash is co-conspirator in NRA's crime.

[koriwhat]

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/mt/food/tinfoilthumb330.jpg

spurshomer is at bouts levels tbh. shits hilarious watching the loons like spurshomer slide further and further into the abyss of mental illness.

[TSA]

1073295285441495045

[boutons_deux]

Trash fired Flynn for lying

Trash now says Flynn didn't lie

Even Fox News comments on this, slowing becoming Fox Noose.

[Chris]

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.makeagif.com%2Fmedia%2F11-17-2015%2FmvlNVu.gif&f=1

[Chucho]

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.makeagif.com%2Fmedia%2F11-17-2015%2FmvlNVu.gif&f=1

Yeah, but for Trump, pa.

[Pavlov]

1073295285441495045So you're saying Flynn never lied?

Flynn said he lied.

Was Flynn lying about lying?

[Spurs Homer]

So you're saying Flynn never lied?

Flynn said he lied.

Was Flynn lying about lying?

:lol:lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TGowdySC/status/1073306752114933761

Gowdy is pissed :wow

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1072881216838385664

9 lawyers?! :lmao That 'HQ Special' tho

[Winehole23]

if you want to stay out of the hoosegow, don't talk to LE without a lawyer present.

non-custodial interrogatories are optional, too bad Flynn was too dumb or too proud to take that into account.

he could have said no thanks.

[Winehole23]

furthermore, if there was some problem with the questioning, his lawyers could have raised it initially in a motion to dismiss.

instead, they counseled Flynn to plead guilty.

[Winehole23]

Judge Sullivan's skepticism about the 302s might cut both ways.


DOJ has never had the opportunity to write its own explanation for what happened with Flynn’s interview. By inviting a reply specifically in the context of this Flynn claim, Sullivan has given DOJ the opportunity to do just that, finally.


DOJ may have a very interesting explanation for why they approached a counterintelligence interview with a guy they might have considered one of them with jocularity.


Sure, there may yet be damning details. As I’ve said, I really look forward to learning why it took seven months to formally memorialize this interview.


But the GOP has been looking for a smoking gun for a year and have not apparently found one. It’s quite possible we’ll learn something else tomorrow, that Mike Flynn actually got special treatment that none of us would get if we were suspected of being recruited by Russian intelligence.


At the very least, Sullivan’s order may result in documentation that reveals just how shoddy all the claims irregularity surrounding Flynn’s interview have been all this time.


Update: Elevating this from pinc’s comment (https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/12/13/on-emmet-sullivans-order-for-mike-flynns-302s-be-careful-what-you-ask-for/#comment-763057). If DOJ chooses to tell a story that at all resembles Greg Miller’s account (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/book-excerpt-how-michael-flynn-lied-to-the-fbi-as-well-as-vice-president-pence-sean-spicer-and-the-post/2018/12/12/8b333f5e-fe29-11e8-83c0-b06139e540e5_story.html) of the meeting (including that Flynn specifically said he didn’t want to have a lawyer of any type present), then this could spectacularly backfire.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/12/13/on-emmet-sullivans-order-for-mike-flynns-302s-be-careful-what-you-ask-for/

[DMC]

if you want to stay out of the hoosegow, don't talk to LE without a lawyer present.

non-custodial interrogatories are optional, too bad Flynn was too dumb or too proud to take that into account.

he could have said no thanks.

Libs here called Pence guilty for "lawyering up" :lol

[Chris]

if you want to stay out of the hoosegow, don't talk to LE without a lawyer present.

non-custodial interrogatories are optional, too bad Flynn was too dumb or too proud to take that into account.

he could have said no thanks.

They told him not to lawyer up :lol friendly coffee chat :tu

[Splits]

1073295285441495045

:lmao sara carter

Who is Jeff Danik? Sara's "go to" FBI vet


https://www.circa.com/story/2017/09/27/nation/retired-agent-jeff-danik-says-fbi-wont-respond-to-his-foia-on-deputy-director-mccabe

Retired FBI Supervisory Special Agent Jeff Danik, who spent more than 28 years with the bureau, as a supervisor in the counter-terrorism division and special overseas advisor, says he's now fighting to ensure that the American people get the truth about what allegedly happened inside the FBI during the investigation into former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
Danik, who recently retired and says he has taken on pro-bono work to help FBI whistle blowers, told Circa he is frustrated by what he sees as failure in the bureau's leadership. He says he is concerned that the FBI is keeping necessary information from the American people regarding the bureau's investigations into Clinton's email server and how it was handled by officials in the bureau. He submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request in October 2016, on current Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.



https://i.imgur.com/TwH71d8.gif

And her other source?


For friends of Flynn, and Flynn’s family, the last two years have been grueling and they are hopeful this new information may lead the judge to overturn Flynn’s conviction. It wouldn’t be too much to hope for since Sullivan has done so in the past. He overturned the 2008 conviction (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/07/ted-stevens-corruption-dismissal-alaska) of former U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens after when government misconduct was exposed. Now he is overseeing Flynn’s case.Former FBI Supervisory Special Agent Robyn Gritz, who met Flynn in 2005, when she was working in the FBI’s Counterterrorism Division in Washington D.C., said: “it is so very painful to watch an American hero, and my friend, torn apart like this.”
“His family has had to endure what no family should have to,” said Gritz, who has had her own long battle with the FBI and McCabe. “The publicly reported Brady material alone, in this case, outweighs any statement given by and FBI agents, we now know at least one FD-302 was changed…Quite simply, I cannot see justice being served by branding Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn a convicted felon, when the truth is still being revealed while policies, ethics, and laws have been violated by those pursuing the case.”

:lmao "overturn" his "conviction"

He fucking pled guilty

lol Sara Carter, still grifting and hacking and bookmarked by dumbfucks like TSA

[Pavlov]

They told him not to lawyer up :lol friendly coffee chat :tuHe knew he could lawyer up and was explicitly given the option.

What's the legal problem here, Chris?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1073363937087930368

[Splits]

ewww

[Splits]

https://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2014/10/Gird-Up-Your-Loins-2.jpg

[Chris]

Flynn case could get tossed due to the prosecuting team's legal & ethical misconduct :lol

[Pavlov]

Narrator: The FBI did not withhold anything. Flynn lied. Flynn said he lied on multiple documents. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying.

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1073363937087930368

[Pavlov]

Flynn case could get tossed due to the prosecuting team's legal & ethical misconduct :lolDescribe the misconduct, Chris.

Be very specific, as this is a legal matter we are discussing.

[Chris]

ewww

^today's Beta male :lol

[Splits]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1073363937087930368

Which case at trial was this?

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1073363937087930368
they took flynn to trial?

[Splits]

^today's Beta male :lol

Yes, we get it. You enjoy visualizing this thing girding his loins

https://i.imgur.com/wkefIr0.png

[Winehole23]

Libs here called Pence guilty for "lawyering up" :lolwell, that's just dumb

[spurraider21]

well, that's just dumb
you dont think Flynn considers what the libs on ST might say when making important legal decisions?

[Pavlov]

Yes, we get it. You enjoy visualizing this thing girding his loins

https://i.imgur.com/wkefIr0.pngGood Lord. I never saw the close-up.

Should remain Stealth Jeff tbh.

[DMC]

well, that's just dumb

Didnt bother you then

[DMC]

you dont think Flynn considers what the libs on ST might say when making important legal decisions?

Philo misses the mark again

[Chris]

Yes, we get it. You enjoy visualizing this thing girding his loins

https://i.imgur.com/wkefIr0.png


Good Lord. I never saw the close-up.

Should remain Stealth Jeff tbh.

More body shaming/identity politics from the "progressive Left" :tu

[Chris]

Philo misses the mark again

Poor fella is on full tilt today :lol

[Pavlov]

More body shaming/identity politics from the "progressive Left" :tuDo you find him attractive, Chris?

[spurraider21]

Poor fella is on full tilt today :lol
you fucked up about the boy scouts and the science behind sex/gender

but yes by all means, claim victory

[Chris]

you fucked up about the boy scouts and the science behind sex/gender

but yes by all means, claim victory

Boy Scouts going bankrupt because of Liberal policies - check

There are only two genders - check

ez win tbh

[spurraider21]

Boy Scouts going bankrupt because of Liberal policies - check
you posted this

1072984694436749313

please quote the parts of that article that support the claim that "liberals broke the boy scouts"


There are only two genders - check
do you still think the terms gender and sex are interchangeable? you've posted 2 different links that demonstrate those are 2 different concepts. do you disagree with them and instead contend gender and sex are interchangeable?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-determination_system
https://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

(these are the two you posted btw. the second one actually does a great job explaining the difference between the two. maybe you should read the articles before you post them)


ez win tbh
oh ok

[Pavlov]

Boy Scouts going bankrupt because of Liberal policies - checkProtecting pedophiles is a conservative policy.

Makes sense tbh.

[Chris]

what liberal policies contributed to their pending BK, as described by that article?

If you would have read the entire thread like I told you to, then you would understand what Liberal policies contributed to the "Boy" Scouts impending demise. You're being disingenuous and purposefully obtuse.


do you still think the terms gender and sex are interchangeable?

Never said such. You're utilizing the Cathy Newman "so you're saying" playbook. You should stop doing that.

There are only 2 genders. The link I posted was relevant. You can apologize at any time.

[Chris]

Ah, the typical 21 edit :lol

[Pavlov]

Hey Chris, who do you think is the best looking former FBI agent?

1073338683376455681

[Chris]

Hey Chris, who do you think is the best looking former FBI agent?

1073338683376455681

Mueller stooge/leaker lackey resister. You must be a big fan.

[spurraider21]

If you would have read the entire thread like I told you to, then you would understand what Liberal policies contributed to the "Boy" Scouts impending demise. You're being disingenuous and purposefully obtuse.
i have read the thread. i also read the article that primarily points to lawsuits alleging pedophilia cover-ups as the reason for their potential BK. is cracking down on pedo-harboring a liberal policy?


Never said such. You're utilizing the Cathy Newman "so you're saying" playbook. You should stop doing that.
i'm asking. do you consider sex and gender to be interchangeable terms? or terms that refer to the same thing?

i have no idea who cathy newman is


There are only 2 genders. The link I posted was relevant. You can apologize at any time.
the wiki link you posted never discussed gender, only sex. that you think it was relevant to gender is why i keep asking if you believe those two concepts are interchangeable.

the WHO link specifically says the following


There are a number of cultures, for example, in which greater gender diversity exists and sex and gender are not always neatly divided along binary lines such as male and female or homosexual and heterosexual.
you're free to apologize at any time

Ah, the typical 21 edit :lol
yes, i edit posts to improve on the clarity.

[Pavlov]

Mueller stooge/leaker lackey resister. You must be a big fan.Do you have anything to counter the substance of her argument?

Step up.

[Chris]

Step up.

Thanks for the :lol

[Winehole23]

They told him not to lawyer up :lol friendly coffee chat :tu
That's not quite accurate. They said it would be a hassle for them if he lawyered up, not that he couldn't have one.

Also, they might have been giving him the good ole boy treatment and didn't realize til later that he was lying.

[Chris]

Also, they might have been giving him the good ole boy treatment and didn't realize til later that he was lying.

Conjecture out the wazoo.


That's not quite accurate. They said it would be a hassle for them if he lawyered up, not that he couldn't have one.

Never said such.

[Winehole23]

Conjecture out the wazoo.No more or no less than improper questioning.

If Flynn's lawyers missed that they suck. Also, so does the judge.

[Winehole23]

The same judge you're hoping will reverse the guilty plea.

[Chris]

No more or no less than improper questioning.

If Flynn's lawyers missed that they suck. Also, so does the judge.

Recent revelations weren't on the docket. How can they miss something that wasn't apparent at the time?

[Brazil]

Darrin... take

:lmao

[Winehole23]

Didnt bother you thenShould it bother me that Mike Flynn made a bad decision?

That's on him, not me.

[Winehole23]

Recent revelations weren't on the docket. How can they miss something that wasn't apparent at the time?Kudos to Judge Sullivan for
checking. It could just as well be that he wants to spank Flynn for waving a red cape in his face for bringing up bullshit.

We'll see what he was after before long. I believe the deadline is tomorrow.

[ElNono]

Flynn case could get tossed due to the prosecuting team's legal & ethical misconduct :lol

or it could not, and you won't own it anyways, so what's the excitement about?

[DMC]

Should it bother me that Mike Flynn made a bad decision?

That's on him, not me.

Spurs Homer said Pence was guilty because he lawyered up. None of the lib echo chamber had any problem with it. Now the tone is Flynn was an idiot for not lawyering up.

[Chris]

or it could not, and you won't own it anyways, so what's the excitement about?

It's pure speculation so not sure how I would "own" it. If Flynn gets sentenced, I will be here either way.

[DMC]

:lol Today's enlightened SJWs, arguing gender vs sex. Let's argue age vs years old.

[Chris]

John Solomon: Let me say this about Mike Flynn. In May 2017 there was a document identified to a small number of people in the United State government. It’s in the possession of the Defense Intelligence Agency. For 18 months there’s been an effort to resist declassifying that document. I know that that document contains extraordinary exculpatory information about General Flynn. I don’t believe the president has ever been told about this document. One lawmaker discovered it but he was thwarted by the Defense Intelligence Agency in his ability to disclose it. I think we all should ask for that declassification! Get that out. It may enlighten the judge!

[Winehole23]

Spurs Homer said Pence was guilty because he lawyered up. None of the lib echo chamber had any problem with it. Now the tone is Flynn was an idiot for not lawyering up.Sorry for not following Spurs Homer's idiocies as closely as you. I feel like I do my part, maybe I just don't care as much as you do.

[ElNono]

It's pure speculation so not sure how I would "own" it. If Flynn gets sentenced, I will be here either way.

If we go by the Cohen thread, it's really not very difficult to tell what you like to own and not own.

[ElNono]

It's pure speculation so not sure how I would "own" it. If Flynn gets sentenced, I will be here either way.

Also, if it's pure speculation, why are you laughing/celebrating it? What's in it for you if it goes either way?

[DMC]

Sorry for not following Spurs Homer's idiocies as closely as you. I feel like I do my part, maybe I just don't care as much as you do.

But you did follow it. You interjected during the discussion we were having to defend his position. That's about the time you claimed you hadn't read everything.

[Winehole23]

Lol DMC protecting Mike Pence's honor from liberal morons.

[Winehole23]

I defended Spurs Homer?

If I did I take it back but I don't think I did.

[Winehole23]

It's not incriminating to take a lawyer period.

The law is a bish and the power of the state against an individual is mighty. You need a strong shield. The best you can afford.

[DMC]

Well for one, he was the head of the transition team who oversaw everything and said he had no idea about Flynn’s dealings.

Second, why would he need to lawyer up if he wasn’t complicit?


Hmm a criminal defense lawyer too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/us/politics/pence-hires-criminal-defense-lawyer.amp.html


No one has suggested otherwise.

djohn and SH have as good a basis for saying Pence is within the scope of the investigation as you have of suggesting he isn't -- none.


Lol DMC protecting Mike Pence's honor from liberal morons.

:lol

Scattered thoughts from Winehole as always, cannot recall what he even said or why...

"lawyering up" good now..

er... bad now..

errr... good now..

[Winehole23]

Actually I stand behind that. All I was saying was that speculation about Pence's legal hazard was as good as your presumption of his innocence.

Not that he didn't need or deserve a lawyer.

Swing and a miss.

[Winehole23]

You tend to overstretch the rubber band lately.

You ok?

[Spurs Homer]

Spurs Homer said Pence was guilty because he lawyered up. None of the lib echo chamber had any problem with it. Now the tone is Flynn was an idiot for not lawyering up.

Uh - no I didn't.

I said Pence should be and will be investigated because he has lied multiple times regarding Flynn and his contradictions are enough to investigate him. I also said that Pence received - in writing - a letter from Congress advising him of Flynn taking payments from a foreign government - and Pence lied when asked if he was aware of Flynn ever receiving money from a foreign gov't. The fact that there is a written record - confirming Pence's lies - makes him pretty suspect.

You must have made the leap on your own.

[Spurs Homer]

Sorry for not following Spurs Homer's idiocies as closely as you. I feel like I do my part, maybe I just don't care as much as you do.


Name just one thing i have been wrong about.

[DarrinS]

Did Drumpf run to his escape pod yet?

[Winehole23]

Name just one thing i have been wrong about.The Dallas cop who murdered an innocent man.

[Winehole23]

Dallas Co brought the murder charges.

[Winehole23]

According to you, that's a mistake.

The mistake was yours, badgelicker.

[Chucho]

According to you, that's a mistake.

The mistake was yours, badgelicker.

:lmao

[DarrinS]

Badgelicker

[Winehole23]

You sympathize, Darrin?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1073372550263037952

[Winehole23]

Judge Sullivan is a stickler after the botched prosecution of Sen. Stevens. That's to his credit.

We'll see tomorrow who gets slapped. He might not be happy with Flynn raising issues at the last second after pleading guilty initially.

[DarrinS]

Judge Sullivan is a stickler after the botched prosecution of Sen. Stevens. That's to his credit.

We'll see tomorrow who gets slapped. He might not be happy with Flynn raising issues at the last second after pleading guilty initially.


Are you and the judge buddies?

[Winehole23]

If there's a Brady violation or a procedural problem with the interrogation no one would be happier to see it corrected than me.

We will see.

[DMC]

Well for one, he was the head of the transition team who oversaw everything and said he had no idea about Flynn’s dealings.

Second, why would he need to lawyer up if he wasn’t complicit?


Hmm a criminal defense lawyer too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/us/politics/pence-hires-criminal-defense-lawyer.amp.html


No one has suggested otherwise.

djohn and SH have as good a basis for saying Pence is within the scope of the investigation as you have of suggesting he isn't -- none.


Actually I stand behind that. All I was saying was that speculation about Pence's legal hazard was as good as your presumption of his innocence.

Not that he didn't need or deserve a lawyer.

Swing and a miss.

:lol you're all over the place

So you agree that Pence getting a lawyer indicated his guilt?

[Winehole23]

I've made it clear lawyering up isn't inculpating. Period, full stop.

Now you're just being obtuse.

[Winehole23]

All I said is that your speculation wasn't any better than theirs.

It's like you haven't been tracking my replies ITT.

Did you read them?

[DMC]

I've made it clear lawyering up isn't inculpating. Period, full stop.

Now you're just being obtuse.

So you disagree with djohn's take that Pence getting a lawyer implicates him as complicit in a crime?

Yes or no?

[DMC]

All I said is that your speculation wasn't any better than theirs.

It's like you haven't been tracking my replies ITT.

Did you read them?

"Well I'll admit I haven't been reading your comments completely, but I stand by my position"

But I didn't offer speculation. I said he's not been interviewed. Meanwhile djohn used the "lawyer up" take to support speculation of guilt thus to say he's a person of interest to Mueller.

How is my "speculation" no better than that?

[Winehole23]

Strike that, you reposted them.

Did you understand them?

[Winehole23]

"Well I'll admit I haven't been reading your comments completely, but I stand by my position"Thick as a brick.

I'd throw you a floatation device but I think you already drowned.

[DMC]

Strike that, you reposted them.

Did you understand them?

I'll wait until you get done posting your scattered thoughts an settle on a course.

[Winehole23]

They all say that as you get on the mind starts to go but what they don't say that is that you won't miss it very much.

[Winehole23]

You obviously don't.

[djohn2oo8]

1073580973005115392

[boutons_deux]

Fridays are such Fun Days!

[Spurs Homer]

The Dallas cop who murdered an innocent man.


i said - if her story checked out it would not be murder
i said the preliminary report could be upgraded to murder if the prosecutor deemed all the evidence warranted a murder charge

i said that i trust that the prosecutor has a good reason to do what he is doing and that if all the evidence supports it- he will upgrade to murder

so her story was probably found to be bs


i was spot on

we will see if she gets convicted - have not been following

[DMC]

1073580973005115392

Why should that matter? Just speculate based on wishcasting. That's worked so far.

[djohn2oo8]

Why should that matter? Just speculate based on wishcasting. That's worked so far.
Yep. Just like how I said Cohen, Manafort, Flynn would all be indicted. And all of Trumps businesses under criminal investigation. All of this before North Korea denuclearized :rollin

[DMC]

Yep. Just like how I said Cohen, Manafort, Flynn would all be indicted. And all of Trumps businesses under criminal investigation. All of this before North Korea denuclearized :rollin

"I said" :lol

You're a reposter of tweets

You repost tweets

[djohn2oo8]

and you read all of these tweets

[djohn2oo8]

Mueller already has multiple people spilling the beans. He doesn't need Manafort. Cohen would be useful. Very.

Accurate this was

[djohn2oo8]

Accurate this title of this thread was

[djohn2oo8]

Apparently he is spilling the beans on Trump . There is another investigation on Trump from the NY AG. Any state crime Trump is convicted of is not pardon able in the state of NY.
4-16-2017

[djohn2oo8]

They asked Comey if he would like to comment on Roger Stone's admission that he spoke with Russian Hackers. Comey said no can't speak on it Because that is under investigation. Basically "We have proof"
Accurate this is

[djohn2oo8]

Trump lied. Sessions lied. Jr lied. Kushner lied. Manafort lied.
Wat dis?

[djohn2oo8]

Manafort is going down.

accurate

[djohn2oo8]

970729413225664513
Ruh roh. Seems like Trump himself directed Cohen to pay her off, which makes this a CRIMINAL act. A Felony to be exact. Lordy!

http://cashmereagency.com/content/uploads/2015/10/hotline3.gif
Accurate

[djohn2oo8]

Hmm the cohen investigation is separate from the FBI investigation. TSA is too retarded to grasp that.


I don't care what investigation it is a part of, nothing will come of it. Just like nothing came from the 25+ people you claimed would be indicted.
:lmao TSA

:lmao something came of that Cohen investigation

:lmao the number is now at 30 plus people

[Trill Clinton]

Accurate this title of this thread was

Most powerful thread on the forum