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boutons_deux
12-29-2018, 07:50 PM
Latest Manafort Russia bombshell puts former campaign head ‘in a box’ with little hope of Trump pardon: ex-US Attorney

Former United States Attorney Joyce Vance explained why President Donald Trump will be unlikely to pardon Paul Manafort,

Saturday’s bombshell report (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/russian-ex-spy-put-pressure-manafort-debts-owed-kremlin-linked-oligarch-report/) by Time magazine about

a former Russian spy putting pressure on Manafort over his multimillion dollar debts.

“There’s a lot information in circulation that talks about

Paul Manafort’s indebtedness to Russian oligarchs and

his efforts to pay them back, perhaps through briefings he offered to give during the campaign,”

“The box Manafort will find himself is that

at some point President Trump will be faced with the fact that

there’s just too much evidence that Manafort was a creature of the Russians,”

she predicted.

“That means Trump will have to distance himself from Manafort.”

“So if what Manafort is looking for is a pardon,

those chances look increasingly dim —

it’s tough for a president to pardon someone who was in bed with one of our national enemies,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/latest-manafort-russia-bombshell-puts-former-campaign-head-box-little-hope-trump-pardon-ex-us-attorney/

Chris
12-29-2018, 08:51 PM
https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1079175234916413441

Pavlov
12-29-2018, 09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/bigleaguepol/status/1079175234916413441:rollin

TSA
12-30-2018, 02:02 AM
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:rollin

Pavlov
12-30-2018, 03:12 AM
1041479036294385665:lmao polygraph tests
:lmao TSA

djohn2oo8
12-30-2018, 01:36 PM
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lol TSA

Spurs Homer
12-30-2018, 01:50 PM
1079437088754450433

lol TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640)


”but- but -DEEP STATE!”

boutons_deux
12-30-2018, 01:51 PM
"the chairmen of two House committees described what they said was

the “seemingly disparate treatment” :lol

the two probes received during the presidential election in 2016 and

called on the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to investigate further."

:lol 2020 campaign in view! :lol

The bullshitters that keep on bullshitting

spurraider21
12-30-2018, 01:59 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1079123088724369413
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1078795942386720773

“Contrary to Democrat and media claims, there has been no effort to discredit the work of the special counsel,” Goodlatte and Gowdy wrote in the letter. “Quite the opposite, whatever product is produced by the special counsel must be trusted by Americans and that requires asking tough but fair questions about investigative techniques both employed and not employed.”

Gowdy

boutons_deux
12-30-2018, 02:05 PM
"requires asking tough ... questions about investigative techniques"

iow, Repugs will do everything, in and out of Congress, to promote doubt about, to discredit Mueller's investigation

BD24
12-30-2018, 03:07 PM
The fucking morons in here getting all excited about polygraphs :lol

There is a reason that polygraphs aren’t used as evidence in court :lol

Chris
12-30-2018, 03:22 PM
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1079395894594887682

Pavlov
12-30-2018, 03:24 PM
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1079395894594887682:lol "perjury trap"

Trump and Nosferatu lost det challenge.

Winehole23
12-30-2018, 05:07 PM
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1079395894594887682The investigation began in May of 2017. Hasn't been two years yet.

Compared with Iran-Contra, Whitewater and Benghazi it hasn't been very long; compared to all three it has been quite productive.

Chris
12-30-2018, 06:11 PM
Mr. Steele wrote: “Fusion’s immediate client was law firm Perkins Coie. It engaged Fusion to obtain information necessary for Perkins Coie LLP to provide legal advice on the potential impact of Russian involvement on the legal validity of the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election.

“Based on that advice, parties such as the Democratic National Committee and HFACC Inc. (also known as ‘Hillary for America’) could consider steps they would be legally entitled to take to challenge the validity of the outcome of that election.”

Pavlov
12-30-2018, 06:14 PM
Mr. Steele wrote: “Fusion’s immediate client was law firm Perkins Coie. It engaged Fusion to obtain information necessary for Perkins Coie LLP to provide legal advice on the potential impact of Russian involvement on the legal validity of the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election.

“Based on that advice, parties such as the Democratic National Committee and HFACC Inc. (also known as ‘Hillary for America’) could consider steps they would be legally entitled to take to challenge the validity of the outcome of that election.”Welcome to three weeks ago, Chris.

Chris
12-30-2018, 06:15 PM
Just a refresher ; )

Pavlov
12-30-2018, 06:20 PM
Just a refresher ; )Changes nothing ; )

boutons_deux
12-31-2018, 10:55 PM
Did Jerome Corsi Flip? Roger Stone Is Suspicious — And Furious

On Sunday, President Donald Trump’s former campaign strategist Roger Stone lashed out (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/roger-stone-turns-on-jerome-corsi-he-worked-with-mueller-to-sandbag-me) at his longtime associate, former InfoWars writer and Birther conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi, accusing him of working with special counsel Robert Mueller to take him down in an Instagram post (https://www.instagram.com/p/BsA69mug5wR/).

“So Jerry Corsi was working with Mueller to sandbag me on a fabricated perjury charge,” Stone wrote.

“Mueller’s minion even promised Corsi no jail time if he would lie and

say he gave me John Podesta’s stolen e-mails (which he did NOT)

Then they were going to say I passed them on to Trump (which I did NOT) .

Jerry was willing to LIE about me but not himself !

Now Jerry is lying about legitimate research he did for me :lol

regarding the Podesta brothers lucrative business in Russia.

Jerry Corsi is starting to make Michael Cohen look like a stand up guy!”

Corsi stated in recent interviews

he had told Stone and “many” others about the Russia-linked theft of emails from Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta

before they had been published to WikiLeaks (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37639370).

the fact that Stone is now turning on Corsi is especially notable, as Corsi has — at least publicly — been one of Stone’s most steadfast and loyal allies.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/did-jerome-corsi-flip-roger-stone-is-suspicious-and-furious/

shitbag ratfuckers ratfucking each other! :lol

TSA
01-02-2019, 07:01 PM
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TSA
01-02-2019, 07:02 PM
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spurraider21
01-02-2019, 07:20 PM
1080582572021817347
:lol "according to my sources"

anonymous sources good now

Spurs Homer
01-02-2019, 08:32 PM
1080492961417318400

TSA

New year
New conspiracies
new HOPE



:lol:lol

Chris
01-02-2019, 08:54 PM
Mr. Steele wrote: “Fusion’s immediate client was law firm Perkins Coie. It engaged Fusion to obtain information necessary for Perkins Coie LLP to provide legal advice on the potential impact of Russian involvement on the legal validity of the outcome of the 2016 US Presidential election.

“Based on that advice, parties such as the Democratic National Committee and HFACC Inc. (also known as ‘Hillary for America’) could consider steps they would be legally entitled to take to challenge the validity of the outcome of that election.”

Winehole23
01-02-2019, 11:32 PM
has the DNC or Hillary for America done anything to contest the 2016 election?

honest question, I'm unaware of any pending actions from that quarter.

ElNono
01-02-2019, 11:35 PM
has the DNC or Hillary for America done anything to contest the 2016 election?

honest question, I'm unaware of any pending actions from that quarter.

IIRC there was a lawsuit at some point

Winehole23
01-02-2019, 11:37 PM
hard to see how oppo research lacks legitimacy per se. hella oppo research against HRC has been used in this forum -- and in this thread -- to bolster shrill cries to LOCK HER UP.

Winehole23
01-02-2019, 11:39 PM
her emails
her blackberries
her servers
her foundation
her late nite pizza

Winehole23
01-02-2019, 11:40 PM
Benghazi for six years running...WHERE ARE THE INDICTMENTS?

Spurs Homer
01-02-2019, 11:41 PM
has the DNC or Hillary for America done anything to contest the 2016 election?

honest question, I'm unaware of any pending actions from that quarter.


lawsuit pending

muellers indictments will bolster their case when it is shown that the election results are fraudulent

DarrinS
01-02-2019, 11:42 PM
lawsuit pending

muellers indictments will bolster their case when it is shown that the election results are fraudulent

How would they possibly show that? Be specific

Winehole23
01-02-2019, 11:42 PM
this lawsuit?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/03/trump-dnc-hacking-693965

ElNono
01-02-2019, 11:46 PM
This one is still active, I believe:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee_v._Russian_Federatio n

Spurs Homer
01-02-2019, 11:47 PM
How would they possibly show that? Be specific

wait for the indictments linking the

hacked emails>russian troll farm>trump moscow tower>russians sanctions>russian $$$> trump agreeing to sell out the usa>

Winehole23
01-02-2019, 11:51 PM
This one is still active, I believe:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee_v._Russian_Federatio nthanks, man.

says Gates cooperated, if I read that right. lotta moving parts, racketeering cases are hard to prove.

it's hard to imagine a judge overturning an election as a civil remedy.

ElNono
01-02-2019, 11:52 PM
thanks, man.

says Gates pleaded guilty and cooperated, if I read that right. lotta moving parts, racketeering cases are hard to prove.

it's hard to imagine a judge overturning an election as a civil remedy.

It’s a civil lawsuit, so they’re probably only after money and possibly a referral to a criminal case if warranted. IIRC, the DNC also scored monies on a similar suit against Nixon back in the day.

boutons_deux
01-03-2019, 12:01 AM
Trump lawyer threatens his will be the last word over Mueller: ‘Damn right there will be a Giuliani report’

Giuliani offered his analysis of Donald Trump’s detractors.

“These people are on a moral high ground,” he argued. “They can just any means for their end, which is to save the country from Donald Trump and put it in the hands of Hillary Clinton or someone else.”

“When does this end?” Hannity asked Rudy Giuliani.

“It ends when he files his report and we can answer it,” he replied.

“Will there be a Giuliani report?” Hannity :lol asked.

“Damn right there be a Giuliani report,” he answered. “Our report will be the definitive report.” :lol

“The president did nothing wrong,” Giuliani argued.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/trump-lawyer-threatens-will-last-word-mueller-damn-right-will-giuliani-report/

TSA
01-03-2019, 02:08 AM
:lol "according to my sources"

anonymous sources good now

Solomon’s sources are good and thanks for the drive by white flag

Winehole23
01-03-2019, 02:16 AM
Solomon’s sources are good...how could you possibly be sure?

are you John Solomon?

TSA
01-03-2019, 02:19 AM
how could you possibly be sure?

are you John Solomon?

His track record concerning the investigation speaks for itself.

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 02:26 AM
His track record concerning the investigation speaks for itself.What is his track record?

TSA
01-03-2019, 10:48 AM
What is his track record?

Better than McClatchy

Winehole23
01-03-2019, 10:51 AM
Better than McClatchycan you be more specific?

TSA
01-03-2019, 11:35 AM
can you be more specific?
Compare and contrast.

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In an interview on MSNBC, Greg Gordon said that he and his McClatchy colleague, Peter Stone, did not physically see cell tower records and intelligence intercepts that they claim placed Cohen in Prague in summer 2016.

Gordon also suggested that the four anonymous sources he and Stone cite in their article also did not see the intelligence for themselves, meaning that the report is based on third-hand information.

TSA
01-03-2019, 11:38 AM
Michael Flynn was collecting intelligence on Russia for the United States during his Russia Today dinner while certain people here said he was committing treason at the same dinner.

Winehole23
01-03-2019, 12:01 PM
you agree with his reporting, is all

TSA
01-03-2019, 12:07 PM
If you can't see the difference in the reporting there is not much more to discuss

Winehole23
01-03-2019, 12:10 PM
You like Solomon because he sucks up to Trump and stokes your Michael Flynn superspy fantasies. confirmation bias, in a word.

I'm not personally invested in McClatchy being wrong or Solomon being right: you are.

Spurs Homer
01-03-2019, 12:24 PM
Michael Flynn was collecting intelligence on Russia for the United States during his Russia Today dinner while certain people here said he was committing treason at the same dinner.


gtfo

on behalf of who?

and

why would russia PAY him to attend - so that he could collect intel on russia?


:lol:lol

TSA
01-03-2019, 12:27 PM
You like Solomon because he sucks up to Trump and stokes your Michael Flynn superspy fantasies. confirmation bias, in a word.

I'm not personally invested in McClatchy being wrong or Solomon being right: you are.

I like Solomon because he has solid sources that he actually vets and his reporting is continuously corroborated.

Michael Flynn being a spy isn't a fantasy.

TSA
01-03-2019, 12:35 PM
gtfo

on behalf of who?

and

why would russia PAY him to attend - so that he could collect intel on russia?


:lol:lol

-Before Flynn made his infamous December 2015 trip to Moscow — as a retired general and then-adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign — he alerted his former employer, the DIA.

-He then attended a “defensive” or “protective” briefing before he ever sat alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Russia Today (RT) dinner, or before he talked with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

-The briefing educated and sensitized Flynn to possible efforts by his Russian host to compromise the former high-ranking defense official and prepared him for conversations in which he could potentially extract intelligence for U.S. agencies such as the DIA.

-When Flynn returned from Moscow, he spent time briefing intelligence officials on what he learned during the Moscow contacts. Between two and nine intelligence officials attended the various meetings with Flynn about the RT event, and the information was moderately useful, about what one would expect from a public event, according to my sources.


Flynn’s attendance at the RT event was disclosed in advance to the intelligence community, he took proactive steps to ensure he could not be compromised by attendees and he then came back to the United States and reported intelligence designed to benefit America.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423558-exculpatory-russia-evidence-about-mike-flynn-that-us-intel-kept-secret#.XC0yisc_S_4.twitter

djohn2oo8
01-03-2019, 12:39 PM
Anonymous sources good now...

TSA
01-03-2019, 12:51 PM
Anonymous sources good now...When they have a track record of being corroborated, yes.

You on the other hand...


Gordon also suggested that the four anonymous sources he and Stone cite in their article also did not see the intelligence for themselves, meaning that the report is based on third-hand information.

:lol djohn

Spurs Homer
01-03-2019, 12:57 PM
-Before Flynn made his infamous December 2015 trip to Moscow — as a retired general and then-adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign — he alerted his former employer, the DIA.

-He then attended a “defensive” or “protective” briefing before he ever sat alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Russia Today (RT) dinner, or before he talked with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

-The briefing educated and sensitized Flynn to possible efforts by his Russian host to compromise the former high-ranking defense official and prepared him for conversations in which he could potentially extract intelligence for U.S. agencies such as the DIA.

-When Flynn returned from Moscow, he spent time briefing intelligence officials on what he learned during the Moscow contacts. Between two and nine intelligence officials attended the various meetings with Flynn about the RT event, and the information was moderately useful, about what one would expect from a public event, according to my sources.


Flynn’s attendance at the RT event was disclosed in advance to the intelligence community, he took proactive steps to ensure he could not be compromised by attendees and he then came back to the United States and reported intelligence designed to benefit America.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423558-exculpatory-russia-evidence-about-mike-flynn-that-us-intel-kept-secret#.XC0yisc_S_4.twitter


gtfo with that garbage!

and then...just to humor you...

and then Flynn came home, lied to the FBI, withheld all this patriotic service to his country when confronted by Mueller and facing possible criminal charges - because - you know "high speed super-spy undercover shit"

and plead GUILTY to crimes - because you know "super spy super secret-probation if spy shit revealed"

and now is a convicted felon but his super patriotic service is held secret because under all this super secret stuff - Trump must really really really NOT be a traitor to his country and must really really really be the good guy here and the entire USA intel community is really really really the corrupt criminal deep state!


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Spurs Homer
01-03-2019, 12:59 PM
and you still never answered why Flynn was paid by Russia to attend a dinner in which he would "spy on russia"


:lol:lol

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 01:51 PM
-Before Flynn made his infamous December 2015 trip to Moscow — as a retired general and then-adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign — he alerted his former employer, the DIA.

-He then attended a “defensive” or “protective” briefing before he ever sat alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Russia Today (RT) dinner, or before he talked with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

-The briefing educated and sensitized Flynn to possible efforts by his Russian host to compromise the former high-ranking defense official and prepared him for conversations in which he could potentially extract intelligence for U.S. agencies such as the DIA.

-When Flynn returned from Moscow, he spent time briefing intelligence officials on what he learned during the Moscow contacts. Between two and nine intelligence officials attended the various meetings with Flynn about the RT event, and the information was moderately useful, about what one would expect from a public event, according to my sources.


Flynn’s attendance at the RT event was disclosed in advance to the intelligence community, he took proactive steps to ensure he could not be compromised by attendees and he then came back to the United States and reported intelligence designed to benefit America.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423558-exculpatory-russia-evidence-about-mike-flynn-that-us-intel-kept-secret#.XC0yisc_S_4.twitterSo why did Flynn lie about Russia or lie about lying about Russia?

Does your boy explain that with solid sauces?

Spurs Homer
01-03-2019, 01:55 PM
So why did Flynn lie about Russia or lie about lying about Russia?

Does your boy explain that with solid sauces?

lol good luck getting an answer from bed-shitter

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 02:04 PM
TSA's new conspiracy theory is Flynn committed triple reverse perjury to protect a sooper seekrit investigation some joker already made public.

Slightly more nuanced than baby eating pizza sex dungeons, I'll give him that.

TSA
01-03-2019, 02:06 PM
So why did Flynn lie about Russia or lie about lying about Russia?

Does your boy explain that with solid sauces?

Only Flynn can answer that question.

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 02:06 PM
Only Flynn can answer that question.

Cop out.

TSA
01-03-2019, 02:14 PM
Anonymous sources good now...

I can't decide which of these fake news stories you pushed was funnier.

McClatchy/Cohen/Prague or Guardian/Assange/Manafort/Ecuador

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Shit you've pushed so many it's hard to keep track of.

"None of this is an aberration. Quite the contrary, it has become par for the Trump-Russia course. One major story after the next falls apart, and there is no accountability, reckoning, or transparency (neither CNN nor MSNBC, for instance, have to date bothered to explain how they both “independently confirmed” the totally false story that Donald Trump, Jr. was offered advanced access to the WikiLeaks email archive, all based on false claims about the date of an email to him from a random member of the public).

Nor is it atypical for The Guardian when it comes to its institutionally blinding contempt for Assange: During the election, the paper was forced to retract its viral report from political reporter Ben Jacobs, who decided to assert, without any whiff of basis, that Assange has a “long had a close relationship with the Putin regime.”

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/02/five-weeks-after-the-guardians-viral-blockbuster-assangemanafort-scoop-no-evidence-has-emerged-just-stonewalling/

boutons_deux
01-03-2019, 02:14 PM
Fake LGBTQ youth hotline set up by Russian election trolls (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/12/19/1820152/-Fake-LGBTQ-youth-hotline-set-up-by-Russian-election-trolls)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/12/19/1820152/-Fake-LGBTQ-youth-hotline-set-up-by-Russian-election-trolls?detail=emailLL

American evangelical so-called Christians love Macho Man Pootin because he, too, hates LGBTQ

TSA
01-03-2019, 02:17 PM
Cop out.

Not at all.

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 02:26 PM
Not at all.Of course it is. You declare Flynn has to be innocent without any explanation whatsoever.

At least you had baby fucking as a motivation in your earlier conspiracy theory.

TSA
01-03-2019, 02:46 PM
Of course it is. You declare Flynn has to be innocent without any explanation whatsoever.

At least you had baby fucking as a motivation in your earlier conspiracy theory.

You demanded that I speak for Flynn and think it's a gotcha moment when I say I can't speak for Flynn. Your tactics reek of desperation and petty shit like this is all you have left to cling two after watching a narrative you pushed for two years crumble.

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 02:56 PM
You demanded that I speak for Flynn and think it's a gotcha moment when I say I can't speak for Flynn. Your tactics reek of desperation and petty shit like this is all you have left to cling two after watching a narrative you pushed for two years crumble.:lmao you can't even speculate a reason for your explicit claim that Flynn is relentlessly perjuring himself in open court. This reeks of desperation and petty shit like this is all you have left to cling to after watching ten narratives you pushed for two years crumble.

YOU: Muh new theory: Flynn is lying to multiple federal judges in multiple court proceedings!

ME: Why would he do that?

YOU: MUH THEORY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE!

Spurs Homer
01-03-2019, 03:21 PM
Tsa shits the bed again

then rolls around in it all morning

lol

TSA
01-03-2019, 03:23 PM
:lmao you can't even speculate a reason for your explicit claim that Flynn is relentlessly perjuring himself in open court. This reeks of desperation and petty shit like this is all you have left to cling to after watching ten narratives you pushed for two years crumble.

YOU: Muh new theory: Flynn is lying to multiple federal judges in multiple court proceedings!

ME: Why would he do that?

YOU: MUH THEORY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE!

You attempt to create false narratives when you’re shook.

The Solomon article being discussed is about Flynn notifying the government before he went to the RT dinner, gathering intelligence at the RT dinner, and debriefing the government when he returned from the RT dinner.

My narrative has been the same from the start. Trump/Russia election collusion was fabricated bullshit.

TSA
01-03-2019, 03:24 PM
Tsa shits the bed again

then rolls around in it all morning

lol


You aren’t even an entertaining ankle biter. Step your game up.

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 03:27 PM
You attempt to create false narratives when you’re shook.

The Solomon article being discussed is about Flynn notifying the government before he went to the RT dinner, gathering intelligence at the RT dinner, and debriefing the government when he returned from the RT dinner.

My narrative has been the same from the start. Trump/Russia election collusion was fabricated bullshit.So there is no secret exculpatory evidence being held back by the DIA?

I never said Flynn and Stein's dinner with Putin was anything more than the worst possible optics.

Trying to see why you're making a big straw man of it now.

Spurs Homer
01-03-2019, 04:23 PM
You attempt to create false narratives when you’re shook.

The Solomon article being discussed is about Flynn notifying the government before he went to the RT dinner, gathering intelligence at the RT dinner, and debriefing the government when he returned from the RT dinner.

My narrative has been the same from the start. Trump/Russia election collusion was fabricated bullshit.


This should be posted right under the "I was wrong about pizzagate" bedshitting



:lol:lol:lol

TSA
01-03-2019, 07:22 PM
So there is no secret exculpatory evidence being held back by the DIA?

I never said Flynn and Stein's dinner with Putin was anything more than the worst possible optics.

Trying to see why you're making a big straw man of it now.

Still shook. Still with the false narratives.

Been a rough week for you.

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Pavlov
01-03-2019, 07:41 PM
Still shook. Still with the false narratives.

Been a rough week for you.

1080912487090798592So there is no secret exculpatory evidence being held back by the DIA?

I never said Flynn and Stein's dinner with Putin was anything more than the worst possible optics.

Trying to see why you're making a big straw man of it now.

My narrative never depended on Prague.

Sorry, TSA. Let me know what you're conspiracy theory is this week if you aren't too embarrassed.

TSA
01-03-2019, 07:45 PM
So there is no secret exculpatory evidence being held back by the DIA?

I never said Flynn and Stein's dinner with Putin was anything more than the worst possible optics.

Trying to see why you're making a big straw man of it now.

My narrative never depended on Prague.

Sorry, TSA. Let me know what you're conspiracy theory is this week if you aren't too embarrassed.

My narrative has been the same from the start. Trump/Russia election collusion was fabricated bullshit.

What’s your narrative?

Pavlov
01-03-2019, 07:50 PM
My narrative has been the same from the start. Trump/Russia election collusion was fabricated bullshit.Sorry, what about your super secret King Spook narrative?

Your Q narrative?

Your pizza narrative?

Your Susan Rice narrative?


What’s your narrative?Same as always. Trump is too stupid to collude but stupid enough to be blackmailed. People around Trump could definitely have colluded. Uday, Cuckner and Manafort proved that possibility.

boutons_deux
01-03-2019, 11:34 PM
RM connects Pootin - Montenegro - Trash

Montenegro's Pres was the guy Trash insultingly shoved aside to get in front line at the European meeting.

Trash brought up Montenegro out of the blue in his interview with Fuck Her Carlson. WTF

Pootin wants Montenegro backs in Russia's orbit, and planned a coup just before Montenegro's elections.

Trash's people also were after info about Poland harassing Belarus, when the only talk of Poland-Belarus was from Pootin's info warfare.

Trash is a totally compromised puppet, owned by Pootin, and he's pretty fucking stupid, naive about how to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIFcvntn-_Y

Winehole23
01-04-2019, 12:20 AM
:lmao you can't even speculate a reason for your explicit claim that Flynn is relentlessly perjuring himself in open court. This reeks of desperation and petty shit like this is all you have left to cling to after watching ten narratives you pushed for two years crumble.

YOU: Muh new theory: Flynn is lying to multiple federal judges in multiple court proceedings!

ME: Why would he do that?

YOU: MUH THEORY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE!That's the beauty part. Drumpf is modeling it for them.

THE THEORY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE.





All the better if it doesn't: professing the random improvised absurdity du jour is a badge of loyalty.

TSA
01-04-2019, 12:30 PM
Same as always. Trump is too stupid to collude but stupid enough to be blackmailed. People around Trump could definitely have colluded. Uday, Cuckner and Manafort proved that possibility.

Who blackmailed Trump and how was he blackmailed?

Who around Trump colluded and who did they collude with?

What did these same people collude on?

Spurs Homer
01-04-2019, 12:40 PM
Who blackmailed Trump and how was he blackmailed?

Who around Trump colluded and who did they collude with?

What did these same people collude on?


Trump was trying to do business with Russia. Trump lied to the American people about dealing with Russia. Russia knew he was lying and could blackmail him by revealing his business deals and any other Kompromat they had on him. Trump responded by refusing to implement the sanctions against Russia for OVER A YEAR. Trump also went to Helsinki and in front of the world - took Russia/Putin's side and went against the USA - in front of the world. Boom - there is your blackmail.


Trump Jr., Manafort, Jared Cuckner - colluded with Russian GRU agents in trump tower during that trump tower mtg - where dirt on HRC was promised to trump team in exchange for NOT sanctioning Russia - which Trump complied with (see above). The Felony hacking of emails was also provided to trump team by wikileaks - who worked through Roger Stone/Corsi - to trump team. BOOM - Collusion. CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE USA.

But you won't care. public knowledge already establishes conspiracy BETWEEN Russia and trump.

Pavlov
01-04-2019, 12:55 PM
Who blackmailed Trump and how was he blackmailed?

Who around Trump colluded and who did they collude with?

What did these same people collude on?:lol I'm saying what is possible, TSA.

Turns out it's all worth investigating.

Dude is paying off women to keep him from getting blackmailed, his casino got fined for laundering Russian mob money, he and everyone around him lied about Russian business and contacts and attempted collusion and you somehow think it's all beyond the realm of possibility.

But Democrat pizza sex dungeons and Clinton child trafficking and missilecopter assassination attempts? You were all in on that.

lol TSA

TSA
01-04-2019, 01:29 PM
Trump was trying to do business with Russia. Trump lied to the American people about dealing with Russia. Russia knew he was lying and could blackmail him by revealing his business deals and any other Kompromat they had on him. Trump responded by refusing to implement the sanctions against Russia for OVER A YEAR. Trump also went to Helsinki and in front of the world - took Russia/Putin's side and went against the USA - in front of the world. Boom - there is your blackmail.


Trump Jr., Manafort, Jared Cuckner - colluded with Russian GRU agents in trump tower during that trump tower mtg - where dirt on HRC was promised to trump team in exchange for NOT sanctioning Russia - which Trump complied with (see above). The Felony hacking of emails was also provided to trump team by wikileaks - who worked through Roger Stone/Corsi - to trump team. BOOM - Collusion. CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE USA.

But you won't care. public knowledge already establishes conspiracy BETWEEN Russia and trump.

:rollin

TSA
01-04-2019, 01:33 PM
:lol I'm saying what is possible, TSA.

Turns out it's all worth investigating.

Dude is paying off women to keep him from getting blackmailed, his casino got fined for laundering Russian mob money, he and everyone around him lied about Russian business and contacts and attempted collusion and you somehow think it's all beyond the realm of possibility.

But Democrat pizza sex dungeons and Clinton child trafficking and missilecopter assassination attempts? You were all in on that.

lol TSA

It’s your narrative why are you afraid to speculate?

Who blackmailed Trump and how was he blackmailed?

Who around Trump colluded and who did they collude with?

What did these same people collude on?

Pavlov
01-04-2019, 01:40 PM
It’s your narrative why are you afraid to speculate?I did speculate.

There's no reason for me to go as far as you did with your baby fucking and martial law narratives.

It simply looks like a possibility and is completely worth investigating.

TSA
01-04-2019, 02:12 PM
I did speculate.

There's no reason for me to go as far as you did with your baby fucking and martial law narratives.

It simply looks like a possibility and is completely worth investigating.

You constantly demand others explain their theories further and when you are pressed to do the same you fold. You're nothing but a chickenshit hypocrite.

Spurs Homer
01-04-2019, 02:21 PM
You constantly demand others explain their theories further and when you are pressed to do the same you fold. You're nothing but a chickenshit hypocrite.

yet

i gave you documented proof that is verifiable public knowledge and you shit the bed again

you want nothing to do with proof

Pavlov
01-04-2019, 02:22 PM
You constantly demand others explain their theories further and when you are pressed to do the same you fold. You're nothing but a chickenshit hypocrite.I want to see how far people like you commit to stupid conspiracy theories.

You went all in multiple times and it blew up in your face every time.

I'm smarter than that.

Sorry.

RandomGuy
01-04-2019, 03:16 PM
That's the beauty part. Drumpf is modeling it for them.

THE THEORY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE.





All the better if it doesn't: professing the random improvised absurdity du jour is a badge of loyalty.

It is pretty random. I am an expert on that.

:D

TSA
01-04-2019, 04:03 PM
yet

i gave you documented proof that is verifiable public knowledge and you shit the bed again

you want nothing to do with proof

Please provide documented proof that Wikileaks gave Trump's team stolen hacked emails. I'll wait.

Winehole23
01-04-2019, 04:06 PM
Please provide documented proof that Wikileaks gave Trump's team stolen hacked emails. I'll wait.Funny you should bring this up.

You know Stone just turned on Corsi, right?

Winehole23
01-04-2019, 04:07 PM
all hot and bothered over nothing, according to TSA

TSA
01-04-2019, 04:11 PM
Funny you should bring this up.

You know Stone just turned on Corsi, right?

Please provide documented proof that Wikileaks gave Trump's team stolen hacked emails. I'll wait.

TSA
01-04-2019, 04:15 PM
I want to see how far people like you commit to stupid conspiracy theories.

You went all in multiple times and it blew up in your face every time.

I'm smarter than that.

Sorry.
The doesn't square with you following me around for 2 years begging me on a daily basis to expand on my theories. Not only are you a chickenshit hypocrite you are full of shit.

Winehole23
01-04-2019, 04:16 PM
Please provide documented proof that Wikileaks gave Trump's team stolen hacked emails. I'll wait.I didn't say I had any.

I bet if you're patient, you'll find out eventually whether or not Bob Mueller does.

Pavlov
01-04-2019, 04:31 PM
The doesn't square with you following me around for 2 years begging me on a daily basis to expand on my theories. Not only are you a chickenshit hypocrite you are full of shit.My theories simply aren't as elaborate and lurid as your child fucking and Satan worshiping fantasies.

My bad.

Pavlov
01-04-2019, 04:32 PM
I didn't say I had any.

I bet if you're patient, you'll find out eventually whether or not Bob Mueller does.NO YOU MUST HAVE THE EVIDENCE NOW I CAN KICK THE CAN FROM NUNES TO SESSIONS TO HOROWITZ TO HUBER BUT YOU CAN'T

Chris
01-04-2019, 06:00 PM
CORSI CASE TO PROCEED! Judge Rules Jerome Corsi’s Case Against Robert Mueller to Move Forward to Random Judge

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/corsi-case-to-proceed-judge-orders-jerome-corsis-case-against-robert-mueller-to-be-reassigned-to-another-court/

Winehole23
01-04-2019, 06:04 PM
CORSI CASE TO PROCEED! Judge Rules Jerome Corsi’s Case Against Robert Mueller to Move Forward to Random Judge

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/01/corsi-case-to-proceed-judge-orders-jerome-corsis-case-against-robert-mueller-to-be-reassigned-to-another-court/not such great news for Corsi, his request for this particular judge was denied.

Chris
01-04-2019, 06:07 PM
not such great news for Corsi, his request for this particular judge was denied.

I read the article, thanks.

boutons_deux
01-04-2019, 07:38 PM
Judge extends term of Robert Mueller's grand jury as it continues to hear new evidence (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/4/1823614/-Judge-extends-term-of-Robert-Mueller-s-grand-jury-as-it-continues-to-hear-new-evidence)

CNN is reporting (https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1081289038936584193)that federal District Judge Beryl Howell has agreed to extend the grand jury that hears cases related to the special counsel’s office

by another six months. :lol

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1823614

Spurs Homer
01-06-2019, 10:26 AM
No one noticed or said a word about Trump parroting the Kremlin's talking points regarding the Afghanistan invasion back in the Soviet Union era?


This piece of shit -was given these talking points directly by Putins people and no one has been alarmed?

Putin working the traitor dummy.

here's a link;


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-defends-soviet-invasion-of-afghanistan-garbling-facts-in-the-process/

Winehole23
01-06-2019, 12:08 PM
Trump screwed up the take so badly there are no talking points there. Terrorism was a result of the Russian invasion, not a pretext.

Spurs Homer
01-06-2019, 12:57 PM
Trump screwed up the take so badly there are no talking points there. Terrorism was a result of the Russian invasion, not a pretext.

are you dense?

trump revised history to flatter/favor putin/russia
trump rewrote factual history with a putin approved fantasy

why?

where did he get this from?
he never used the words “great” “big” or any of his regular over the top boasts

he just parroted a very specific talking point to muddy history in russia/soviet union favor

you better believe usa intel is going to jump on this asap and dig into who trump is receiving propaganda from


of course - you see zero impropriety here but continue to “act open-minded”

bonnerific pegged you

Winehole23
01-06-2019, 03:46 PM
What specific talking point?

The USSR invaded Afghanistan to spread communism, not to fight terror.

Winehole23
01-06-2019, 03:46 PM
Looks like you didn't read the article either.

Spurs Homer
01-06-2019, 04:30 PM
What specific talking point?

The USSR invaded Afghanistan to spread communism, not to fight terror.

exactly

now- what did trump say?

that the soviets invaded because terrorists caused this - and russia rightfully acted in response to terrorist

not because russia aggressively spread communism

Chris
01-06-2019, 10:26 PM
The plot thickens...


https://twitter.com/joehoft/status/1082085972236357634

spurraider21
01-06-2019, 10:27 PM
:rollin still going back to the Benghazi well

Pavlov
01-06-2019, 10:43 PM
A guest post describing conspiracy tweets from Roscoe P. Coltrane at Falcon Lake.

Sounds legit!

Winehole23
01-07-2019, 01:37 AM
exactly

now- what did trump say?

that the soviets invaded because terrorists caused this - and russia rightfully acted in response to terrorist

not because russia aggressively spread communismso, he wasn't parroting a Russian talking point, but just making shit up.

Spurs Homer
01-07-2019, 10:31 AM
so, he wasn't parroting a Russian talking point, but just making shit up.

uh - making shit up that flatters russia -

or

like I said - he was instructed on what to say by Putin


and almost everything this traitor has done - always is exactly what Russia would want him to do.

Winehole23
01-07-2019, 11:17 PM
This is goofy as hell.

I've said over and over again that I don't find the conspiracy/collusion narrative compelling, but I'm amenable to the hypothesis that money laundering by shady Russian billionaires and Persian Gulf chieftains has been keeping Donald Trump afloat, long before he entered politics.

The nutshell is this: MBS overpaid for a Da Vinci by $350 Mil and the painting has since been "lost." The seller is a man named Rybolovlev, who bought DJT's Palm Beach home in 2006 for about $50 mil above valuation, never lived in it, then tore the hose down and sold the plot a few years later. The two are said to have met toward the end of the 2016 campaign in NC; both men deny it, but their airplanes shared the same tarmac for a few hours on November 3rd, 2016.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article136939868.html

https://narativ.org/2019/01/02/salvator-mundi-art-of-the-deal-the-lost-davinci/

Winehole23
01-07-2019, 11:21 PM
Rybolovlev put the masterpiece up for auction through Christie’s in November 2017. The estimated price for Lot 9B was between $80 and $120 million. Christies’s auctioneers were stunned (http://www.christies.com/features/Leonardo-and-Post-War-results-New-York-8729-3.aspx) when bidding quickly surged past $80 million in just seconds and then, just as effortlessly over $130 million. Two anonymous bidders continuously outbid each other, not stopping until they had run up the price to $450.3 million, making it the single most expensive work of art ever sold at auction.

In the ensuing days, The New York Times unmasked (https://nyti.ms/2AXPjIQ) Crown Prince Mohamed bin Salman as the masterpiece’s real buyer but the identity of the second bidder stayed hidden for months.

In March, The Daily Mail revealed the counter-bidder was Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed (MbZ). The princes claimed they had no idea the other was bidding and dismissed (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5554969/Two-Arab-princes-cost-450MILLION-bidding-war-Da-Vincis-Salvator-Mundi.html)the whole thing as a mistake.

To be clear, these are the very same crown princes George Nader represented at the August 3rd [2016] meeting with Donald Trump, Jr. and whom, Nader promised, would pay for the social media campaign.

On the seller’s side, Dmitry Rybolovlev was not only well-acquainted with Psy-Group’s founder but as an owner of the Bank of Cyprus, he could quietly carve out payments to Psy-Group, along with any kickbacks to Putin, without anyone noticing

spurraider21
01-07-2019, 11:45 PM
This is goofy as hell.

I've said over and over again that I don't find the conspiracy/collusion narrative compelling, but I'm amenable to the hypothesis that money laundering by shady Russian billionaires and Persian Gulf chieftains has been keeping Donald Trump afloat, long before he entered politics.

The nutshell is this: MBS overpaid for a Da Vinci by $350 Mil and the painting has since been "lost." The seller is a man named Rybolovlev, who bought DJT's Palm Beach home in 2006 for about $50 mil above valuation, never lived in it, then tore the hose down and sold the plot a few years later. The two are said to have met toward the end of the 2016 campaign in NC; both men deny it, but their airplanes shared the same tarmac for a few hours on November 3rd, 2016.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article136939868.html

https://narativ.org/2019/01/02/salvator-mundi-art-of-the-deal-the-lost-davinci/
Tarmacs good now

Winehole23
01-08-2019, 11:50 AM
news coming on mystery case:

1082679169883009024

djohn2oo8
01-08-2019, 12:30 PM
1082664661449752576

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Winehole23
01-08-2019, 01:52 PM
because Manafort's lawyers failed to redact, we now know Manafort (allegedly) shared polling information with (alleged) Russian spy Konstantin Kimilnik in exchange for loan forgiveness:

1082707274232221696

Winehole23
01-08-2019, 02:15 PM
lol his lawyers just refiled with working redactions.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 02:18 PM
because Manafort's lawyers failed to redact, we now know Manafort (allegedly) shared polling information with (alleged) Russian spy Konstantin Kimilnik in exchange for loan forgiveness:

1082707274232221696I'm thinking of a word here....can't quite place it....

boutons_deux
01-08-2019, 02:19 PM
Team Trump prepares effort to suppress parts of Mueller report if necessary (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/7/1824304/-Team-Trump-prepares-effort-to-suppress-parts-of-Mueller-report-if-necessary)

Mueller ... is required to issue it to the Justice Department only (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-07/when-mueller-issues-report-trump-may-try-to-suppress-some-of-it), not Congress.

Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker or Attorney General nominee William Barr—both of who have expressed public doubts about the investigation—will then be in charge of deciding how to handle the findings

House Democrats intend to demand access to it and make it public

White House has different ideas, however, and they expect to be able to review it before anything goes public and potentially claim executive privilege in order to withhold certain findings from Congress if necessary.

the report will almost certainly include information Trump finds objectionable.

claims of executive privilege to rebuff Congress have typically faced stiff challenges (https://www.everycrsreport.com/files/20120821_R42670_a319b0843c12dfcc04c185f1a570317f85 f6318a.pdf) in court,

which is exactly where the issue would be headed if Trump tries to block any of the report from being disclosed publicly.

“executive privilege can always be pierced by a specific and legitimate criminal or congressional inquiry.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/7/1824304/-Team-Trump-prepares-effort-to-suppress-parts-of-Mueller-report-if-necessary?detail=emaildkre

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 02:20 PM
lol his lawyers just refiled with working redactions.https://media.giphy.com/media/26DNjpKZTSLvxiAW4/giphy.gif

TSA
01-08-2019, 02:54 PM
1082664661449752576

:lmao :lmao :lmao

You do realize this has to do with her work with Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS don’t you?

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 02:58 PM
You do realize this has to do with her work with Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS don’t you?Yep, Fusion GPS is controlling the Russian government now!

TSA
01-08-2019, 03:13 PM
Yep, Fusion GPS is controlling the Russian government now!

That’s a retarded take.

boutons_deux
01-08-2019, 03:16 PM
You do realize this has to do with her work with Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS don’t you?

why can't she be working both sides?

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 03:17 PM
That’s a retarded take.What is your take, TSA?

Tell us what your conspiracy is this week.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 03:19 PM
why can't she be working both sides?Actually the question for TSA is why can't Fusion GPS work for two different clients?

His conspiracy theory apparently is that she was working for the DNC.

TSA
01-08-2019, 03:33 PM
Actually the question for TSA is why can't Fusion GPS work for two different clients?

His conspiracy theory apparently is that she was working for the DNC.

I never argued that Fusion GPS could not work for two different clients, they did. If you somehow thought I did that’s another retarded take.

The Prevezon case and the dossier creation are obviously two different clients of Fusion GPS.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 03:35 PM
I never argued that Fusion GPS could not work for two different clients, they did. If you somehow thought I did that’s another retarded take.

The Prevezon case and the dossier creation are obviously two different clients of Fusion GPS.So what is your conspiracy theory, TSA?

At long last, spit it out.

TSA
01-08-2019, 03:38 PM
What is your take, TSA?

Tell us what your conspiracy is this week.

It never changed. Veselnitskaya worked with Fusion GPS on both the Prevezon case and the set up of the Don Jr meeting.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 03:39 PM
It never changed. Veselnitskaya worked with Fusion GPS on both the Prevezon case and the set up of the Don Jr meeting.Oh, so neither of those had anything at all to do with the DNC?

Make yourself clear on this point.

TSA
01-08-2019, 03:40 PM
Don’t worry wine will be here to tell you this is nothing. And something something Obama and wall st (his one salient point btw, but pales in comparison to treason)


It’s a charge from a case in 2015 that had nothing to do with the election, so yeah, nothing.

TSA
01-08-2019, 03:41 PM
Oh, so neither of those had anything at all to do with the DNC?

Make yourself clear on this point.

One did. How that isn’t clear to you is beyond me.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 03:44 PM
One did. How that isn’t clear to you is beyond me.Which one was the DNC behind? The Prevezon case or the set up of the Don Jr meeting?

Chris
01-08-2019, 03:51 PM
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1082668195419484160

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 03:53 PM
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1082668195419484160
What is Fusion GPS charged with, Qhris?

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:04 PM
Which one was the DNC behind? The Prevezon case or the set up of the Don Jr meeting?

How that isn’t clear to you is beyond me.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:07 PM
How that isn’t clear to you is beyond me.TSA, I am again asking you to state your conspiracy theory now regarding the meeting with Manafort, Trump's son and Trump's son in law.

Step up.

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:13 PM
TSA, I am again asking you to state your conspiracy theory now regarding the meeting with Manafort, Trump's son and Trump's son in law.

Step up.

You are free to find my answer from the last time you asked the same question.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:13 PM
You are free to find my answer from the last time you asked the same question.You didn't answer then either.

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:19 PM
You didn't answer then either.

Prove it.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:21 PM
Prove it.:lmao demanding I prove a negative.

You're derp now.

I don't blame you for shutting yourself up. It's the only thing left for you.

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:29 PM
:lmao demanding I prove a negative.

You're derp now.

I don't blame you for shutting yourself up. It's the only thing left for you.

Except it's a provable claim. I either answered the last time you asked or I did not.

I'm not going to search through the thread because I know you are full of shit. You aren't going to search through the thread because you know you're full of shit.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:34 PM
Except it's a provable claim. I either answered the last time you asked or I did not.

I'm not going to search through the thread because I know you are full of shit. You aren't going to search through the thread because you know you're full of shit.I'm not going to search for anything because you're right here making accusations.

Again.

And I just shut you up by asking you to explain yourself. That proves you're full of shit.

Again.

Why are you so afraid to state your conspiracy theory now? Yo used to start threads about your favorite conspiracy theories.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:37 PM
And since you're going to demand I state my conspiracy theory I will.

Trump is too stupid to actively conspire with Russia but he is stupid enough to be blackmailed by them.

The people around Trump are smart enough to conspire with Russia. Manafort's filing today further proves that.

Trump is stupid enough to try to cover it all up. His payoffs prove that.

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:40 PM
I'm not going to search for anything because you're right here making accusations.

Again.

And I just shut you up by asking you to explain yourself. That proves you're full of shit.

Again.

Why are you so afraid to state your conspiracy theory now? Yo used to start threads about your favorite conspiracy theories.


You aren't going to search for anything because you know you were full of shit and I'd already answered your question previously.
You made a claim and ran from it like a chickenshit.

clambake
01-08-2019, 04:41 PM
You aren't going to search for anything because you know you were full of shit and I'd already answered your question previously.
You made a claim and ran from it like a chickenshit.

ok, why don't you tell me?

Chris
01-08-2019, 04:41 PM
Pavlov's theory:

Trump stupid. Trump bad.

Russia smart. Russia bad.

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:41 PM
ok, why don't you tell me?

check you pm's

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:44 PM
You aren't going to search for anything because you know you were full of shit and I'd already answered your question previously.
You made a claim and ran from it like a chickenshit.Great, search for your answer and link it here.

I'm waiting.

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:46 PM
Great, search for your answer and link it here.

I'm waiting.

Demanding I search for your claim :lol
Have fun waiting.

clambake
01-08-2019, 04:47 PM
check you pm's

i checked


let me guess.......when i went to check.....you gave me a virus.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:47 PM
Demanding I search for your claim :lol
Have fun waiting.I said search for your answer. :lol

What would help both of us.

Why are you afraid to talk about your conspiracy theories now, TSA?

I just posted mine.

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:49 PM
I said search for your answer. :lol

Why are you afraid to talk about your conspiracy theories now, TSA?

Nothing about what I said about the meeting has changed so I have no reason to rehash it.

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:49 PM
Nothing about what I said about the meeting has changed so I have no reason to rehash it.What did you say about the meeting?

TSA
01-08-2019, 04:54 PM
What did you say about the meeting?

Persistent yet pathetic :bobo

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 04:56 PM
Persistent yet pathetic :boboWhy are you afraid to talk about your conspiracy theories now, TSA?


Seems there's news supporting mine today:bobo

Brazil
01-08-2019, 05:05 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/08/politics/manafort-russia-court-deadline/index.html


fwiw

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 05:07 PM
:lol How many times is Manafort going to be fucked by PDFs?

djohn2oo8
01-08-2019, 05:26 PM
Special counsel Robert Mueller believes that Paul Manafort was sharing polling data and discussing Russian-Ukrainian policy with his close Russian-intelligence-linked associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, while he led the Trump presidential campaign,according to parts of a court filing that were meant to be redacted by Manafort's legal team Tuesday but were released publicly.
Manafort discussed a Ukrainian peace plan with Kilimnik, his lawyers acknowledged. He also shared polling data related to the 2016 presidential campaign with Kilimnik, Manafort's legal team acknowledges in their court filing.

For TSA since Manafort was doing this as Trumps campaign manager. If you are going to run a cyber op to disrupt a US election, polling data tends to help that

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 05:28 PM
It rhymes with smersmusion.

djohn2oo8
01-08-2019, 05:33 PM
It rhymes with smersmusion.
But what’s the word though.....

Spurs Homer
01-08-2019, 06:10 PM
Has tsa shit the bed yet again?

trumps campaign mgr conspiring with the russians

while the russians were attacking the usa

so his “trump/russia collusion is a made up fantasy”

just went in the shitter

goal post move in 5,4,3...

hater
01-08-2019, 06:33 PM
:lmao still no collusion :lmao

Poor bastards

Pavlov
01-08-2019, 06:34 PM
:lol hater hasn't followed the news for two years.

djohn2oo8
01-08-2019, 06:39 PM
:lol hater hasn't followed the news for two years.
His internet is running on AOL 5.0

djohn2oo8
01-08-2019, 11:25 PM
1082854530256068608

:lol well what’s the word again?

djohn2oo8
01-08-2019, 11:31 PM
Smells like Collu.....

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 06:17 AM
What President Trump has said about Paul Manafort

Feb. 16, 2017

"He was replaced long before the election. You know that, right? He was replaced long before the election.

When all of this stuff started coming out, it came out during the election.

But Paul Manafort, who’s a good man also, by the way -- Paul Manafort was replaced long before the election took place.

He was only there for a short period of time,"

March 20, 2017

Trump's then-press secretary Sean Spicer (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/whitehouse/sean-spicer.htm) gave an account of Manafort's role in the campaign that he later walked back.

"Paul Manafort, who played a very limited role for a very limited amount of time."

Aug. 10, 2017

"I know Mr. Manafort -- I haven't spoken to him in a long time, but I know him.

He was with the campaign, as you know, for a very short period of time, relatively short period of time.

But I’ve always known him to be a good man,"

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-paul-manafort/story?id=50809734

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 06:30 AM
White House Tries To Deny Manafort's Role

"Paul is a great asset and an important addition as we consolidate the tremendous support we have received in the primaries and caucuses, garnering millions more votes than any other candidate," then-candidate Donald Trump (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/donald-trump.htm) said, as quoted in the statement.

"Paul Manafort, and the team I am building, bring the needed skill sets to ensure that the will of the Republican voters, not the Washington political establishment, determines who will be the nominee for the Republican Party," Trump said in the statement.


April 16, 2016

Within weeks of his coming aboard, Manafort made clear his vision for the future of the campaign. At a meeting April 16, Manafort laid out a vision for the Trump campaign that included increasing spending, hiring more staffers and redefining their roles,


May 19, 2016

Manafort was promoted to campaign chairman (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-announces-expanded-role-paul-manafort/story?id=39231973) and chief strategist on May 19, effectively taking full command at that point.


June 20, 2016

There was notable palace intrigue as soon as Manafort entered the scene because of reported tensions between him and then-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/corey-lewandowski.htm).
The drama reached a tipping point June 20 when Lewandowski was fired.

"Paul Manafort has been in operational control of the campaign since April 7,” Lewandowski told The Associated Press on the day he was fired. “That's a fact.”

"Paul helped us grow the campaign and we need to continue to grow to be successful. So everything that Paul did for the campaign is one less thing I had to do,” Lewandowski said. “I'm thankful for that.”


July 19 - 21, 2016: The Republican National Convention (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/elections/republican-convention.htm)

Manafort organized and directed the Republican National Convention which was held in Cleveland, Ohio, from July 19-21.

"Are there any ties between Mr. Trump, you or your campaign and Putin and his regime?" ABC News' George Stephanopoulos (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/reporters/george-stephanopoulos.htm) asked on "This Week” July 24.

"No, there are not," Manafort said with a chuckle. "It's absurd and there's no basis to it."

One change that drew some attention was the softening of language on how the Republican Party treated arms deals with Ukraine and Russia, though Manafort later denied any involvement.

Asked if he had any involvement in the change, Manafort said,. "I had none. In fact, I didn’t even hear about it until after our convention was over."

"It absolutely did not come from the campaign," :lol So who softened the platform about Russia? :lol

Aug. 14, 2016

On Aug. 14, The New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html) that Manafort's name appears on a list of so-called black ledger accounts made by the since-toppled Ukrainian president amounting to $12.7 million from 2007 to 2012.

Manafort released a statement that day denying any wrongdoing.

"The simplest answer is the truth: I am a campaign professional,”

Associated Press reported Aug. 18 that Manafort's firm had lobbied in the United States on behalf of the ruling Ukrainian political party even though Manafort did not disclose his work as a foreign agent, as mandated by federal law.

Aug. 19, 2016

Manafort's departure from the campaign came the next day. On Aug. 19, Trump released a statement confirming Manafort's exit and praising his work on the campaign.

"This morning Paul Manafort offered, and I accepted, his resignation from the campaign,” Trump said in the statement.

“I am very appreciative for his great work in helping to get us where we are today, and

in particular his work guiding us through the delegate and convention process.

Paul is a true professional and I wish him the greatest success.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-paul-manaforts-role-trump-campaign/story?id=50808957

Manafort was running Trash's campaign from early April, then organized the Repug convention, up to Aug 19,

6 fucking months, including the months where Pootin/Assange were dribbling out Dem emails.

aka "for a very short period of time, relatively short period of time." :lol

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 06:34 AM
White House Tries To Deny Manafort's Role

Manafort controlled hiring for the Trump campaign, along with its media campaign and budget.

At that July breakfast in Cleveland, it was clear that Manafort spoke for the candidate and knew his thinking. He had been in charge of all the strategy for the convention.

He explained that he had put Trump in touch with Mike Pence, then governor of Indiana and now vice president.

"I brought him in to meet Pence," Manafort said of Trump,

adding that the contact led to the notion that the Indiana governor "had value to Trump as a potential VP nominee."

The breakfast guest the next morning was the Republican Party chairman, Reince Priebus.

Priebus told me then how important Manafort was to the campaign, what an improvement from former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

https://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/hc-op-hunt-white-house-denies-manafort-role-0326-20170324-story.html

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 08:11 AM
Rosenstein expected to depart DOJ in coming weeks if new attorney general confirmed

Multiple sources told ABC News Rosenstein's departure is imminent.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/rosenstein-expected-depart-doj-coming-weeks-attorney-general/story?id=60252611

djohn2oo8
01-09-2019, 08:18 AM
Rosenstein expected to depart DOJ in coming weeks if new attorney general confirmed

Multiple sources told ABC News Rosenstein's departure is imminent.

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-container/Politics/rosenstein-expected-depart-doj-coming-weeks-attorney-general/story?id=60252611
1082985097006116864

Means Mueller is ready to snatch souls and there is nothing on Earth Trump can do to stop it

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 08:24 AM
1082985097006116864

Means Mueller is ready to snatch souls and there is nothing on Earth Trump can do to stop it

Mueller has to include shit about Trash and his mafia in upcoming indictments, to make them public,

since Trash's new DoJ henchmen will certainly block stuff in Mueller's report to DoJ that incriminates Trash.

And then SDNY must have lots of wonderful crimes to report on, to indict, etc.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2019, 08:49 AM
Mueller has to include shit about Trash and his mafia in upcoming indictments, to make them public,

since Trash's new DoJ henchmen will certainly block stuff in Mueller's report to DoJ that incriminates Trash.

And then SDNY must have lots of wonderful crimes to report on, to indict, etc.
Democrat’s will subpoena the report so in essence we will see it in some form

djohn2oo8
01-09-2019, 09:28 AM
1082854530256068608

:lol well what’s the word again?
1082994627911786497

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 09:39 AM
Putin Reportedly Close to Firing Giuliani

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5b7ad281184ecd6d1498326e/master/w_1298,c_limit/Borowitz-GiulianiPutin.jpg

Putin allowed Trump to hire Giuliani in the first place because

“it’s important to let Trump think that he has some autonomy from time to time,”

but now the Russian President has apparently determined that “enough is enough.”

Putin is likely to replace Giuliani with a handpicked successor, Arkady Lubetkin, a criminal-defense attorney who has represented several prominent Russian Mob figures.

Putin initially theorized that the nonsensical nature of Giuliani’s utterances had to be chalked up to “an error in translation,”

After reading an official transcript of Giuliani’s statements, however, the Russian President was apparently “flabbergasted.”


“Pravda is not pravda?”

Putin reportedly said.

“What is this bullshit?”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-reportedly-close-to-firing-giuliani?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20010819&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Borowitz%20010819&utm_content=&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=Borowitz%20010819&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=14920112&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1560626939&spReportId=MTU2MDYyNjkzOQS2 (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-reportedly-close-to-firing-giuliani?mbid=nl_Borowitz%20010819&CNDID=43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Borowitz%20010819&utm_content=&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=Borowitz%20010819&hasha=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faae18526a77bd&spMailingID=14920112&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1560626939&spReportId=MTU2MDYyNjkzOQS2)

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 09:53 AM
very literary. also entertaining/elucidiating RE: the nature of hybrid war, which is a war of minds to influence minds



Hybrid War Methods: Agents of Influence and Weaponizing Money

What do Satan, soccer, black cats, Russian Orthodox Patriarchs and judo wrestling have in common? Why do you need to care about the Russian literature? Indictments are only the cherry on top of this cake: layers go from the mob in Taj Mahal to weapons in Syria and into the depth of the human soul.

This article focuses on both aspects of a “psy-op:” psychological and operational and emphasizes the critical importance of creating a new way of thinking in response to the unconventional warfare. It includes:

→ The analysis of hidden messages behind the visuals of the website of Patten — Kilimnik joint business.

→ an introduction to the science of meaning-making.

→ A brief definition of a hybrid war with the focus on the mind war and psychology.

→ A case study of a hybrid war operation that includes ties between Manafort, Flynn, Cambridge Analytica, pro-Russian Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs and organized crime figures, and Putin and Trump’s close associates.
https://medium.com/@ZarinaZabrisky/sam-patten-and-a-black-cat-called-begemot-a4506006cae

Spurs Homer
01-09-2019, 09:57 AM
1082985097006116864

Means Mueller is ready to snatch souls and there is nothing on Earth Trump can do to stop it

I think it won't end soon -
but Mueller & Rosenstein have probably made plans for the evidence to be protected - even from the new AG - and probably will use the House's assistance to make sure the evidence is not buried by Trump and his henchmen.

I think Mueller also knows that the SDNY also have a plan that they will execute - on their own time.

Either way - criminals will be prosecuted.

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 10:00 AM
Manafort had the sort of debts no honest man could pay, so he traded insider information from the Trump 2016 campaign and promised access to power.

Conflicts of interest make people vulnerable to such compromises.

djohn2oo8
01-09-2019, 10:01 AM
I think it won't end soon -
but Mueller & Rosenstein have probably made plans for the evidence to be protected - even from the new AG - and probably will use the House's assistance to make sure the evidence is not buried by Trump and his henchmen.

I think Mueller also knows that the SDNY also have a plan that they will execute - on their own time.

Either way - criminals will be prosecuted.
A lot will become public soon. All the safeguards have left or are leaving. Mattis. Kelly. Now Rod. Because he knows it’s far too late to stop it and he wouldn’t be leaving if he didn’t trust Barr

djohn2oo8
01-09-2019, 10:01 AM
Manafort had the sort of debts no honest man could pay, so he traded insider information from the Trump 2016 campaign and promised access to power.

Conflicts of interest make people vulnerable to such compromises.
Very much indeed.

DarrinS
01-09-2019, 10:01 AM
Walls closing in and whatnot

djohn2oo8
01-09-2019, 10:03 AM
Walls closing in and whatnot
Why was Trumps campaign manager passing along polling data to Russians?

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 10:06 AM
Walls closing in and whatnothow would you characterize Trump's campaign manager giving internal polling data to a Russian spy and promising an introduction to the candidate?

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 10:13 AM
another DarrinS drive by

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 10:14 AM
1082725862934482947

Spurs Homer
01-09-2019, 10:36 AM
A lot will become public soon. All the safeguards have left or are leaving. Mattis. Kelly. Now Rod. Because he knows it’s far too late to stop it and he wouldn’t be leaving if he didn’t trust Barr

Wish I could agree here - but if Rosenstein trusts Barr -
USA is fucked.

I don't see that - I think Rosenstein/Mueller are just as wary of Barr as they are of the other shitbag - whitaker.

Maybe those sealed indictments are why Rosenstein is comfortable stepping down. My feeling is that those sealed indictments are something not even Barr can mess with or maybe even get his hands on until they are unsealed - which by then will be too late to save Trump.

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 10:42 AM
Team Trump is either waiting for the talking points RE: the latest news about Manafort to be issued or is ignoring it with the solemn dignity of the stricken.

We're currently at zero rebuttals.

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 10:54 AM
in b4 IT'S JUST POLLS

1082998527792476160

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 11:56 AM
1082725862934482947

"They argue that Manafort didn't intentionally lie or deceive him." :lol

Chris
01-09-2019, 05:16 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1083115797290074113

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 05:20 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1083115797290074113You disapprove of Trump's nomination of this guy, Qhris?

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 05:23 PM
THE FIX IS IN

Cuck Ross
01-09-2019, 05:23 PM
1083079814037323776

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 05:25 PM
1083079814037323776OH THAT'S OK THEN

Winehole23
01-09-2019, 05:26 PM
what difference does that make, sock puppet?

spurraider21
01-09-2019, 05:31 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1083115797290074113
4d chess

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 05:33 PM
Democrat’s will subpoena the report so in essence we will see it in some form

... if the oligarchy's SCOTUS agrees with Trash's Exec Privilege

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 06:08 PM
4d chess

Barr would obviously do everything possible shut down Mueller and trash his reputation. :lol

More incompetence. Trash's mafia can't even choose sycophantic henchmen

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 06:53 PM
‘Knock it off’: Judge delivers scathing rebuke of ‘unprofessional’ lawyer for Mueller-indicted Russian firm


The attorneys representing Concord Management and Consulting,

the Russian firm indicted by special counsel Robert Mueller (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/robert-mueller-obtained-nude-selfie-course-investigating-russian-election-interference-report/) for conspiracy to defraud the United States during the 2016 election,

got a brutal smackdown from a Trump-appointed judge on Monday (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/trump-appointed-judge-utterly-crushes-russian-firm-trying-squirm-mueller-election-indictment/).

As reported by BuzzFeed News’ Zoe Tillman (https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1082317915528007681), Judge Dabney Friedrich gave Concord attorney Eric Dubelier a dressing down in court by

slamming his strategy as “unprofessional, inappropriate, and ineffective.”
In particular, the judge

faulted Dubelier for making a reference to the movie “Animal House” in his motion

to dismiss charges against his client, which she said was “undermining your credibility in this courthouse.”

The judge then told Dubelier to “knock it off.”

Last year,

Friedrich similarly shut down Concord’s effort to get Mueller’s probe declared unlawful

by asserting that the indictment of the firm was well within Mueller’s mandate as the special counsel investigating Russian election interference.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/knock-off-judge-delivers-scathing-rebuke-unprofessional-lawyer-mueller-indicted-russian-firm/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 06:55 PM
Democrats launching ‘aggressive new focus’ investigating Steve Mnunchin’s role in Russia scandals

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin will be in the hot seat on Capitol Hill on Thursday as Congressional Democrats investigate President Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia.

Mnuchin’s classified briefing is “the start of an aggressive new focus on Mnuchin by newly empowered House Democrats,” NBC News reported (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/house-democrats-now-asking-questions-about-treasury-secretary-steven-mnuchin-n956766) Wednesday.

At focus in the closed-door hearing is

Mnuchin’s decision to ease sanctions on companies aligned with Oleg Deripaska.

Deripaska is a Russian oligarch with close ties to Vladimir Putin and former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort.

In 2016, Mnuchin was Trump’s national finance chair.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/democrats-launching-aggressive-new-focus-investigating-steve-mnunchins-role-russia-scandals/

Chris
01-09-2019, 08:13 PM
JARRETT: Rosenstein’s Departure from the DOJ Will ‘Restore’ Law and Order

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 08:15 PM
JARRETT: Rosenstein’s Departure from the DOJ Will ‘Restore’ Law and OrderWho is JARRETT?

Chris
01-09-2019, 08:22 PM
Greg Jarrett

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 08:23 PM
Greg JarrettWho is Greg Jarrett?

Chris
01-09-2019, 08:26 PM
Go look it up low information poster.

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 08:28 PM
Go look it up low information poster.How is there no law and order under Trump's appointees, Qhris?

DMC
01-09-2019, 08:37 PM
Chumpy is the Jim Acosta of the ST Political Forum :lol

spurraider21
01-09-2019, 08:38 PM
Who is Greg Jarrett?
this is greg jarrett

On August 3, 2017, Jarrett called for a grand jury for Hillary Clinton over her email controversy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy). A day later, when a grand jury was impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller in the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_ele ctions), Jarrett said that grand juries were an "undemocratic farce".

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 08:40 PM
this is greg jarrett

On August 3, 2017, Jarrett called for a grand jury for Hillary Clinton over her email controversy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy). A day later, when a grand jury was impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller in the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_ele ctions), Jarrett said that grand juries were an "undemocratic farce".

:lol gotta sell those books to people like Qhris.

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 08:42 PM
Also:
https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014422/rs_560x415-140522160223-560.greg.cm.52214.jpg

Pavlov
01-09-2019, 08:43 PM
:lol
https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Gregg-Jarrett-arrest-800x430.png

boutons_deux
01-09-2019, 10:14 PM
But are they any good?

Panicked White House Just Hired 17 More Lawyers As Mueller Closes In On Trump

“A beefed-up White House legal team is gearing up

to prevent President Trump’s confidential discussions with top advisers

from being disclosed to House Democratic investigators and

revealed in the special counsel’s long-awaited report,

setting the stage for a potential clash between the branches of government.”

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/09/panicked-white-house-just-hired-17-more-lawyers-as-mueller-closes-in-on-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (https://www.politicususa.com/2019/01/09/panicked-white-house-just-hired-17-more-lawyers-as-mueller-closes-in-on-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

boutons_deux
01-10-2019, 12:50 AM
Manafort’s conspiracy with Russia is ‘the beating heart’ of special counsel investigations: Atlantic writer

The latest legal filings (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/revealed-manafort-failed-disclose-meetings-suspected-russian-agent-managing-trumps-campaign/) in the criminal cases against former Donald Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort have shown

there was collusion with Russia during the 2016 campaign,

“I think it’s a big deal, but I think it’s maybe more suggestive of what the broader narrative is than conclusive on its own,”

“So in effect, yes, this is collusion,” he concluded.

“But I think we don’t even know the scope and broadest contours of that collusion yet.”

“I think there’s [a] really good reason to think that the scandal has several beating hearts it looks like, but

one of the beating hearts of the scandal has obviously always been Paul Manafort,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/manaforts-conspiracy-russia-beating-heart-special-counsel-investigations-atlantic-writer/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

DMC
01-10-2019, 01:27 AM
this is greg jarrett

On August 3, 2017, Jarrett called for a grand jury for Hillary Clinton over her email controversy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy). A day later, when a grand jury was impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller in the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_ele ctions), Jarrett said that grand juries were an "undemocratic farce".



This just in... Spurraider21 has uncovered another example of hypocrisy in the world.

boutons_deux
01-11-2019, 01:25 AM
Fox News’ Shep Smith and Judge Napolitano just

admitted that the Trump campaign did indeed “collude” with the Russians.

This is a massive concession and does not bode well for Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/washingtondcpress/videos/288724091839851/

Certainly Fox & Friends will develop this further :)

Chris
01-11-2019, 02:00 AM
Trump still not a target. :)

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 11:23 AM
Trump still not a target. :)
He is he is a subject of 17 criminal investigations in which his personal lawyer is preparing to testify in public about his crimes. His organization getting shut down while all of his businesses are under scrutiny and subject to asset forfeiture.

But none of these things are Hillary lol

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 11:31 AM
He is he is a subject of 17 criminal investigations in which his personal lawyer is preparing to testify in public about his crimes. His organization getting shut down while all of his businesses are under scrutiny and subject to asset forfeiture.That's exaggeration, djohn.

Not all the 17 actions are criminal. By my casual count DJT is a possible target in 2 criminal investigations (one of which is pretty much speculative: obstruction of justice) and 2 lawsuits. In another he's an unindicted co-conspirator. (payoffs to girlfriends)

You can check your work here:

https://www.wired.com/story/mueller-investigation-trump-russia-complete-guide/

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:11 PM
That's exaggeration, djohn.

Not all the 17 actions are criminal. By my casual count DJT is a possible target in 2 criminal investigations (one of which is pretty much speculative: obstruction of justice) and 2 lawsuits. In another he's an unindicted co-conspirator. (payoffs to girlfriends)

You can check your work here:

https://www.wired.com/story/mueller-investigation-trump-russia-complete-guide/
Sorry Mueller isn’t just investigating obstruction of justice. collusion is not a legal term but conspiracy is. And Trump is a subject there.

so 3. Conspiracy to defraud the US

4. Trump inaugural committee under criminal investigation

5. Trump foundation under investigation in the State of New York

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:13 PM
6. By the U.S. Attorney for the SDNY: Where did the money for Trump SuperPAC Rebuilding America Now come from?

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:17 PM
The Cohen filing also said there were Two undisclosed investigations into Trump so add those two more.

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:21 PM
thanks for agreeing that you goofed. the number isn't seventeen criminal cases. not even close.

and it probably isn't as many as you claim.

3,4 and 6 aren't certain.

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:21 PM
accuracy is important. ignore it at the risk of your own credibility.

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:21 PM
thanks for agreeing that you goofed. the number isn't seventeen criminal cases. not even close.

and it probably isn't as many as you claim.

3,4 and 6 aren't certain.
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/49897018_2751424761549520_119950061391052800_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=c4365cea1c09daaad3fed5732e9dcb71&oe=5CD2FBCE

And the Cohen filing made note of two more

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:22 PM
accuracy is important. ignore it at the risk of your own credibility.
It’s way more than 2 :lol

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:24 PM
Oh yeah let’s not forget the NRA is being investigated for funneling Russian cash into the Trump campaign. But yeah he is only possibly a target in two investigations :lol

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:24 PM
it isn't seventeen.

Trump himself isn't legally exposed in all of those cases.

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:25 PM
It’s way more than 2 :lolI already said it looks like four so far.

Why exaggerate?

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:27 PM
Oh yeah let’s not forget the NRA is being investigated for funneling Russian cash into the Trump campaign. But yeah he is only possibly a target in two investigations :lolYou shouldn't pretend Trump is legally exposed there; it's far from certain.

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:27 PM
it isn't seventeen.

Trump himself isn't legally exposed in all of those cases.
The first 11 tie directly to Trump :lol

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:30 PM
The first 11 tie directly to Trump :lolThat's exaggeration. They attach to his campaign and already have swept up a number of his subordinates.

I totally agree that all these investigations are politically damaging and have harmed his reputation, as they should, but legal exposure/culpability for DJT proper is another thing entirely.

djohn2oo8
01-11-2019, 12:33 PM
That's exaggeration. They attach to his campaign and already have swept up a number of his subordinates.

I totally agree that all these investigations are politically damaging and have harmed his reputation, as they should, but legal exposure/culpability for DJT proper is another thing entirely.
No. What’s going to determine his legal exposure is whether he had knowledge and directed these events.

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:36 PM
No. What’s going to determine his legal exposure is whether he had knowledge and directed these events.Which we don't know, and which would be pretty hard to prove to a legal certainty, if Mueller doesn't have the receipts.

He might, he might not; we don't know yet.

It's odd to pretend it's a slam dunk right now.

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 12:45 PM
also, it's hard to see you your case is made stronger by stretching facts and exaggerating Trump's quite real legal exposure.

boutons_deux
01-11-2019, 01:01 PM
6. By the U.S. Attorney for the SDNY: Where did the money for Trump SuperPAC Rebuilding America Now come from?


and the $120M inaugural money, for an inauguration that cost was less the $50M? and $26M to Melanie's friend?

Trash and his mafiya, totally corrupt venal assholes, a band of grifters.

boutons_deux
01-11-2019, 01:03 PM
and no noise from Weissberg, Trash's money-Jew for decades?

Trash and his mafiya are WAY PAST worthy of benefit of the doubt.

boutons_deux
01-11-2019, 01:30 PM
Whine Hole is flirting with both-sides-ism, probably congratulating himself on his above-the-fray "fair play"

To quote Coach Tom Hanks: "There's No Fair Play in Politics"

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 01:33 PM
not at all, I'm calling out djohn for exaggeration

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 01:33 PM
Especially when it’s anti trump. Amirite?

the rest of the human shit can forward lies all day. Crickets.I give the Trumpistas a mile of shit daily.

Just check the other threads.

boutons_deux
01-11-2019, 01:54 PM
Trump Campaign Had More Than 100 Contacts With Russia-Linked Operatives: Report

These contacts included at least 28 meetings, both in person and over Skype, and involved several prominent members of Trump’s inner circle.

Members of President Donald Trump (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump)’s campaign and transition team had more than 100 contacts with Russia-linked operatives

between September 2015 and January 2017

Over 100 contacts is really significant because you don’t just have

100 contacts with a foreign power if there’s nothing going on there.”

The 101 figure, Dessel added, was a “conservative” number.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-russia-contacts-cap-report_us_5c36e939e4b0c469d76af276

Spurs Homer
01-11-2019, 02:09 PM
Whine-ho

what a sperm-shielder

please - whinehole - when dear leader orders you to - please please please


Drink the kool-aid and ...


MAGA!

benefactor
01-11-2019, 02:26 PM
accuracy is important. ignore it at the risk of your own credibility.
He lost that five years ago when he said Nick Saban was going to be hired by the Longhorns.

TSA
01-11-2019, 02:34 PM
That sophisticated, specific Russian 2016 voter targeting effort doesn’t seem to exist

The revelation on Tuesday that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, had shared polling data with a colleague in Ukraine who had ties to Russian intelligence predictably kicked up a furor of speculation about the significance of the move. This is what one of the Russia-Trump collusion scenarios looks like: someone from Team Trump passing data to the Russians that the latter group could use to target voters and influence the election. After all, the common understanding is that Russia’s interference efforts included sophisticated targeting of specific voting groups on Facebook, which could have made the difference in states that Trump narrowly won on his way to an electoral-vote victory.

That understanding about Russia’s sophisticated targeting, though, is not supported by the evidence — if it’s not flat-out wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/09/that-sophisticated-specific-russian-voter-targeting-effort-doesnt-seem-exist/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5039cae05338

spurraider21
01-11-2019, 02:49 PM
That sophisticated, specific Russian 2016 voter targeting effort doesn’t seem to exist

The revelation on Tuesday that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, had shared polling data with a colleague in Ukraine who had ties to Russian intelligence predictably kicked up a furor of speculation about the significance of the move. This is what one of the Russia-Trump collusion scenarios looks like: someone from Team Trump passing data to the Russians that the latter group could use to target voters and influence the election. After all, the common understanding is that Russia’s interference efforts included sophisticated targeting of specific voting groups on Facebook, which could have made the difference in states that Trump narrowly won on his way to an electoral-vote victory.

That understanding about Russia’s sophisticated targeting, though, is not supported by the evidence — if it’s not flat-out wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/09/that-sophisticated-specific-russian-voter-targeting-effort-doesnt-seem-exist/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5039cae05338
wapo is cia mouthpiece

fake news

TSA
01-11-2019, 03:02 PM
tired schtick is tired

Pavlov
01-11-2019, 03:26 PM
TSA concedes collusion, moves goalpost.

spurraider21
01-11-2019, 03:31 PM
I don’t believe the story from the CIA mouthpiece WaPo and it’s unnamed officials.

Rogers visits Trump on the Nov 17th. WaPo article released the article on Nov 19th saying they actually wanted him fired in Oct. :lol suuuuuure. And Clapper is a habitual liar anyways so even easier for me to believe their timeline was bullshit.


Every article is based of the WaPo anonymous sources.

Think for once in your life.

Jeff Bezos = WaPo
Jeff Bezos = Amazon
Amazon = 600 million CIA contract
Wapo = CIA mouthpiece

On top of all this the WaPo recently hired John Podesta, and if you read Hillary's book from her campaign insiders you'd know it was John Podesta and Robby Mook who concocted the Russian collusion angle.

XCtIdpBocNA

Schumer warned about the CIA doing this months ago.

Think for once in your life.


Just in the last week WaPo printed that Comey asked for more funds for Russia and the deputy attorney general threatened to resign over Comey firing. They push bullshit story after bullshit story. hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609) isn't correct about much but he's right about WaPo being a CIA mouthpiece.


I've said the Washington Post is a CIA mouthpiece.

but now


tired schtick is tired

:cry

Pavlov
01-11-2019, 03:37 PM
:lmao TSA's reciepts

Winehole23
01-11-2019, 04:57 PM
TSA concedes collusion, moves goalpost.COLLUSION DIDN'T WORK!