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boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 12:32 AM
:lol :lol
NSA recorded evrything, and there were many more than just Flynn in Trash's entourage talking with Russians
:lol :lol
sleep well, Trash fellators :lol
TheSanityAnnex
02-15-2017, 12:53 AM
Talking to the Russian ambassador about a sitting president's sanctions?
Are you fkn kidding? And close friend of his who is running for president. This is not a problem? An ex general who may have a job in the WH talking to the Russians about a sitting presidents plans... I guess it's not illegal so it's fine?
Trump should do what other presidents have done and succeeded at. Trump should have gone to the editors in chief and owners of said papers and told them it was a matter of National security that they not release this stuff now that he is president. Shit. National Security. People's livelihood is on the line. Surely the press would relent.
I wonder why Trump did not plead his case to the press... hmmmm...
What did Flynn say about the sanctions, be specific and provide a direct quote.
pgardn
02-15-2017, 01:06 AM
What did Flynn say about the sanctions, be specific provide and provide a direct quote.
It does not matter what he said. The content involved the sanctions. We will eventually get to that when the rest of Trump's staff contacts are all in. Hell, we might find out that Flynn will be prosecuted. You gotta wait though.
So you are OK with our president knowing his buddy lied to his VP? And you are okay that Trump only took action AFTER we find out? That's fine with you... This is one big bunch of liars.
The incompetence and backstabbing is utterly out of control. This is how our president does business. In over 4000 lawsuits in just a few years. Makes sense. This is not a team, it's a clusterfck among thieves.
So is Iran still "officially on notice"?
mavsfan1000
02-15-2017, 02:10 AM
Trump isn't afraid to fire people. Everyone is on notice. Trump holds his team to a high standard. Even if he did select you. All respect for him to do this.
Splits
02-15-2017, 02:10 AM
He will probably say the bombs hate us because we are exceptional and America will prevail. Of course he will say that from the confines of his fortress inside the rockies while the rest of us get bombed back to eat shit era
:lmao
ElNono
02-15-2017, 04:55 AM
Now some remember we have a 4th amendment? :lol
Can you imagine if Podesta was eating pizza with the Russian ambassador? The 30 pages of charts with pointy lines that nobody reads... damn...
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 05:04 AM
Is TSA in here defending treason and blasting leaks when TSA was pouncing on those leaks on Hillary during the election ?
Thread
02-15-2017, 05:06 AM
Is TSA in here defending treason and blasting leaks when TSA was pouncing on those leaks on Hillary during the election ?
& that's me shoulder-to-shoulder with him.
ElNono
02-15-2017, 05:13 AM
I don't know about treason, and honestly, the leaks, if true, are alarming. Not because we shouldn't know (and I find the Snowden leaks way more utilitarian as far as airing the govt dirt), but because the people that mean us harm are listening too.
But that should also apply to any alleged intelligence officials leaking via any route. When you're cheering for an alleged whistleblower leaking blue, but then play the felony card when another leaks red, your ass is showing, tbh...
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 06:45 AM
I don't know about treason, and honestly, the leaks, if true, are alarming. Not because we shouldn't know (and I find the Snowden leaks way more utilitarian as far as airing the govt dirt), but because the people that mean us harm are listening too.
But that should also apply to any alleged intelligence officials leaking via any route. When you're cheering for an alleged whistleblower leaking blue, but then play the felony card when another leaks red, your ass is showing, tbh...
Its treason to undermine a previous administration while they are currently in office. These leaks would not have come if Trump didn't taunt the intelligence community. That was his ass showing.
Splits
02-15-2017, 07:19 AM
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:lmao his go to move is :cry scoreboard :cry no matter what the issue
Splits
02-15-2017, 07:23 AM
:lol TSA in here quoting Greenwald every day during the Podesta and Hillary leaks, now wants leakers prosecuted. Talk about unprincipled and blindly partisan. What a sack of shit.
Trill Clinton
02-15-2017, 07:33 AM
:lol TSA in here quoting Greenwald every day during the Podesta and Hillary leaks, now wants leakers prosecuted. Talk about unprincipled and blindly partisan. What a sack of shit.
smh:lol
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 07:41 AM
That boy Donnie quite unhinged this morning
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hater
02-15-2017, 07:41 AM
Is TSA in here defending treason and blasting leaks when TSA was pouncing on those leaks on Hillary during the election ?
As were most libtards here wanting to go to war with Russia for leaking shit on Shillary Clintler. And now the same retards are praising the leakers :lmao
Hypocritical faggots
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 07:44 AM
As were most libtards here wanting to go to war with Russia for leaking shit on Shillary Clintler. And now the same retards are praising the leakers :lmao
Hypocritical faggots
You must be fucking stupid because it turns out those Russian accusations about being connected with Trump were true.
pgardn
02-15-2017, 07:54 AM
That boy Donnie quite unhinged this morning
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Trump is making these papers widely read.
They have the resources to dig right into his scalp.
So in a way, we got entertainment, and that's what the man is about.
boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 07:55 AM
Crooked Hillary! :lol
Benghazi! :lol
Trash and his team caught committing treason? Unfair!
hater
02-15-2017, 07:59 AM
You must be fucking stupid because it turns out those Russian accusations about being connected with Trump were true.
And you must be a retard be ause it was never proven it was the russians. Most intelligence experts concluded the DNC were leaks. Yet you wanted to punish the Russian govenment for it because CNN and WaPo told you :lmao
pgardn
02-15-2017, 08:00 AM
I don't know about treason, and honestly, the leaks, if true, are alarming. Not because we shouldn't know (and I find the Snowden leaks way more utilitarian as far as airing the govt dirt), but because the people that mean us harm are listening too.
But that should also apply to any alleged intelligence officials leaking via any route. When you're cheering for an alleged whistleblower leaking blue, but then play the felony card when another leaks red, your ass is showing, tbh...
We don't know the leaks came from intelligence staff independent of Trump. The DOJ told Trump AND staff about Flynn. Flynn already had enemies in his own camp in intelligence. There are at least two high Trump appointments in intelligence that wanted Flynn out. Mattis and Tilllerson have been named as thinking the appointment of Flynn was a big mistake. The were apparently trying to keep Flynn out of meetings for not vetting his staff for National Security and other problems.
Will await TSA flow chart then...
* crinkle trash *
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 08:01 AM
And you must be a retard be ause it was never proven it was the russians. Most intelligence experts concluded the DNC were leaks. Yet you wanted to punish the Russian govenment for it because CNN and WaPo told you :lmao
Actually Russia said it was them. Keep watching fox news you dunce :lol
hater
02-15-2017, 08:03 AM
Hey lets see what greenwald thinks about thi
IT IS, OF COURSE, bizarre to watch this principle now so widely celebrated. Over the last eight years, President Obama implemented the most vindictive and aggressive war on whistleblowers in all of U.S. history. As Leonard Downie, one of the editors at the Washington Post during the Watergate investigation, put it in a special report: “The [Obama] administration’s war on leaks and other efforts to control information are the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration.”
:lmao hypocritical bitches
hater
02-15-2017, 08:03 AM
Actually Russia said it was them. l
Oh do please provide a link to this :lol
benefactor
02-15-2017, 08:03 AM
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:lmao his go to move is :cry scoreboard :cry no matter what the issue
That boy Donnie quite unhinged this morning
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:lol
This motherfucker isn't long for the world. Pence and the rest of his Repug buddies are waiting with bullwhips to drive his ass out.
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 08:04 AM
Hey lets see what greenwald thinks about thi
IT IS, OF COURSE, bizarre to watch this principle now so widely celebrated. Over the last eight years, President Obama implemented the most vindictive and aggressive war on whistleblowers in all of U.S. history. As Leonard Downie, one of the editors at the Washington Post during the Watergate investigation, put it in a special report: “The [Obama] administration’s war on leaks and other efforts to control information are the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration.”
:lmao hypocritical bitches
Trump tards were happy with the Hillary leaks. But now all of a sudden Leaks are bad :lmao
pgardn
02-15-2017, 08:10 AM
Hey lets see what greenwald thinks about thi
IT IS, OF COURSE, bizarre to watch this principle now so widely celebrated. Over the last eight years, President Obama implemented the most vindictive and aggressive war on whistleblowers in all of U.S. history. As Leonard Downie, one of the editors at the Washington Post during the Watergate investigation, put it in a special report: “The [Obama] administration’s war on leaks and other efforts to control information are the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration.”
:lmao hypocritical bitches
Oh.
So Trump inherited a leak problem.
Thanks. Who would have known.
Oh yes, apparently some Russians.
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 08:10 AM
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pgardn
02-15-2017, 08:11 AM
Oh do please provide a link to this :lol
So you don't believe our intelligence?
hater
02-15-2017, 08:14 AM
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Still waiting on your link that prooves your claim Russia said "we did it" :lmao
boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 08:15 AM
The entire conservative media UPSET about leaks, :lol not about the incriminating CONTENTS of the leaks. :lol
Any of you rightwingnutjobs want to spin why so many of Trash's team had so many contacts with Russian intelligence and operatives for so long?
Necessary for what?
How did any they benefit?
And why Russia and not any allies? Russia is a mortal enemy of the American Corporate Empire
My bet is that Manafort, Flynn, Trash, Tillerson have been groomed, compromised by the Russians for years, and more recently, these compromised traitors have been getting lots of others to get in contact with the Russians.
Why?
It's gonna be a huge shitstorm when NSA/CIA/FBI give transcripts to Congress, or a special prosecutor.
hater
02-15-2017, 08:15 AM
Glad King Trump directly named the NSA. Although its a losing battle as NSA has recording of every single phonecall from all of us in the last 5 or so years.
Its obvious the NSA is involved and funny they were so quiet during the Shillary leak scandal :lol
Glad King Trump directly named the NSA. Although its a losing battle as NSA has recording of every single phonecall from all of us in the last 5 or so years.
Its obvious the NSA is involved and funny they were so quiet during the Shillary leak scandal :lol
Your boy really is an idiot that doesn't know how to play the game. :lol
I knew he wouldn't last the full 4 years but he's not even going to last 3 months at this clip.
pgardn
02-15-2017, 08:20 AM
The entire conservative media UPSET about leaks, :lol not about the incriminating CONTENTS of the leaks. :lol
Any of you rightwingnutjobs want to spin why so many of Trash's team had so many contacts with Russian intelligence and operatives for so long?
Necessary for what?
How did any they benefit?
And why Russia and not any allies? Russia is a mortal enemy of the American Corporate Empire
My bet is that Manafort, Flynn, Trash, Tillerson have been groomed, compromised by the Russians for years, and more recently, these compromised traitors have been getting lots of others to get in contact with the Russians.
Why?
It's gonna be a huge shitstorm when NSA/CIA/FBI give transcripts to Congress, or a special prosecutor.
Russia is an enemy of American Corporate Empire...
But not enemies of free and fair elections because you don't like the FACT that Trump won.
Was Putin's last election win close? What happens to a major political opponent? What, dead. Shot dead in Moscow. How weird.
pgardn
02-15-2017, 08:22 AM
Glad King Trump directly named the NSA. Although its a losing battle as NSA has recording of every single phonecall from all of us in the last 5 or so years.
Its obvious the NSA is involved and funny they were so quiet during the Shillary leak scandal :lol
Yeah good old thing he named Flynn.
Who lied directly to Trump and the VP.
Good to have loyal people.
boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 08:28 AM
Russia is an enemy of American Corporate Empire...
But not enemies of free and fair elections because you don't like the FACT that Trump won.
US election was not free and fair. It was screwed up by 2 interventions by Repug Comey and a strategy of weekly leaks by Assange. Just enough to give Trash a tiny EC win by 80K votes out of 130M+.
goddam, you're stupid.
pgardn
02-15-2017, 08:29 AM
Hater totally believes George Bush looked deep into Putin's soul and saw a man he could do business with.
Holy fk. You will lose every argument when you try to equate US political system with Russia's.
Just stop, you are making a fool of yourself. You have no fkn clue. Our last 3 presidents have had to endure some very hard knocks when dealing with a corrupt totalitarian regime thinking they could work with closely with them.
And Trump and yourself think you will just walk in and change a rotten country with a thug for a leader. Holy shit...
boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 08:31 AM
http://media.salon.com/2017/02/RUSSIA_FEATURE_PHOTO.jpg
pgardn
02-15-2017, 08:31 AM
US election was not free and fair. It was screwed up by 2 interventions by Repug Comey and a strategy of weekly leaks by Assange. Just enough to give Trash a tiny EC win by 80K votes out of 130M+.
goddam, you're stupid.
And there you you go you have made the full circular argument.
Trump won. The election was close and Hillary stunk. It should never have been close.
Did Bush beat Gore?
hater
02-15-2017, 08:48 AM
Your boy really is an idiot that doesn't know how to play the game. :lol
I knew he wouldn't last the full 4 years but he's not even going to last 3 months at this clip.
All I know is SHILLARY AINT WALKING THROUGH THAT DOOR :lmao
I had my birthday, new years, chrismass and hanoka in November. This all is just gravy :lmao
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 08:51 AM
Holy Shit Trump just verified the leaks are true :lol
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hater
02-15-2017, 08:52 AM
Holy Shit Trump just verified the leaks are true :lol
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Still saiting on your russia we did it link.
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 08:55 AM
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djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 08:56 AM
Still saiting on your russia we did it link.
Your boy Trump just confirmed the leaks. :lmao
All I know is SHILLARY AINT WALKING THROUGH THAT DOOR :lmao
I had my birthday, new years, chrismass and hanoka in November. This all is just gravy :lmao
Tick tack, tick tack.
boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 09:00 AM
Your boy Trump just confirmed the leaks. :lmao
yep, hilariously dumb mofo
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/831853862281699331
hater
02-15-2017, 09:20 AM
Your boy Trump just confirmed the leaks. :lmao
No your claim that Russia said we did it. Please post that link as I sure you didnt pull that claim out ur ass :lol
Splits
02-15-2017, 09:43 AM
is this more fake news?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4q2QVVWMAE7dk_.jpg
benefactor
02-15-2017, 09:45 AM
Welp
Trill Clinton
02-15-2017, 09:52 AM
is this more fake news?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4q2QVVWMAE7dk_.jpg
What a slimy son of a bitch. Lock him up!
Spurminator
02-15-2017, 09:55 AM
You didn't answer the question. Flynn should have been fired, and the leakers will be caught and charged as well.
I don't disagree with either of those statements. But it seems like you don't think the info should have been leaked... Thing is, without the leak, Flynn doesn't get fired.
tlongII
02-15-2017, 10:25 AM
Trump president not Clinton.
DarrinS
02-15-2017, 11:38 AM
:lol delusional
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Splits
02-15-2017, 11:41 AM
:lol delusional
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lol "call special election"
That's not how it works. After step 1, step 2 is president Ryan.
Thread
02-15-2017, 11:53 AM
Trump president not Clinton.
Spurminator
02-15-2017, 11:58 AM
Trump president not Clinton.
A good reminder, as always, of where the buck will stop at the end of this mess.
Thread
02-15-2017, 12:23 PM
A good reminder, as always, of where the buck will stop at the end of this mess.
Oh, dem grapes is sour.
ElNono
02-15-2017, 12:32 PM
Trump president not Clinton.
spurraider21
02-15-2017, 12:45 PM
I don't disagree with either of those statements. But it seems like you don't think the info should have been leaked... Thing is, without the leak, Flynn doesn't get fired.
Unless you trusted trump to fire Flynn without the info going public... Which I don't
spurraider21
02-15-2017, 12:47 PM
Now some remember we have a 4th amendment? :lol
Can you imagine if Podesta was eating pizza with the Russian ambassador? The 30 pages of charts with pointy lines that nobody reads... damn...
I don't know about treason, and honestly, the leaks, if true, are alarming. Not because we shouldn't know (and I find the Snowden leaks way more utilitarian as far as airing the govt dirt), but because the people that mean us harm are listening too.
But that should also apply to any alleged intelligence officials leaking via any route. When you're cheering for an alleged whistleblower leaking blue, but then play the felony card when another leaks red, your ass is showing, tbh...
:wow..
hater
02-15-2017, 12:51 PM
Trump president not Clinton.
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 12:58 PM
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So which is it? :lmao
Trill Clinton
02-15-2017, 12:59 PM
Trump president not Clinton.
lol "call special election"
That's not how it works. After step 1, step 2 is president Ryan.
Why would Pence be impeached? Isn't it because he didn't know what was going on and he went out and publicly defended Flynn that all this furor came up?
TheSanityAnnex
02-15-2017, 03:53 PM
:lol TSA in here quoting Greenwald every day during the Podesta and Hillary leaks, now wants leakers prosecuted. Talk about unprincipled and blindly partisan. What a sack of shit.
Are you claiming a leak that resulted from a phishing scheme and a leak from the intelligence community directly to the press are comparable?
TheSanityAnnex
02-15-2017, 03:56 PM
Its treason to undermine a previous administration while they are currently in office. These leaks would not have come if Trump didn't taunt the intelligence community. That was his ass showing.
Trump said the intelligence community was politicized and their current actions prove just that.
And no, Flynn talking to the ambassador was not treason.
"The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-pick-for-national-security-adviser-brings-experience-and-controversy/2016/11/17/0962eb88-ad08-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html?utm_term=.3f324852ddc3) — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government, U.S. officials said"
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...s-with-russian (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/315793-fbi-found-no-wrongdoing-in-flynns-calls-with-russian)
TheSanityAnnex
02-15-2017, 03:57 PM
I don't know about treason, and honestly, the leaks, if true, are alarming. Not because we shouldn't know (and I find the Snowden leaks way more utilitarian as far as airing the govt dirt), but because the people that mean us harm are listening too.
But that should also apply to any alleged intelligence officials leaking via any route. When you're cheering for an alleged whistleblower leaking blue, but then play the felony card when another leaks red, your ass is showing, tbh...
Are you claiming a leak that resulted from a phishing scheme and a leak from the intelligence community directly to the press are comparable?
TheSanityAnnex
02-15-2017, 03:59 PM
I don't disagree with either of those statements. But it seems like you don't think the info should have been leaked... Thing is, without the leak, Flynn doesn't get fired.
The info from the intelligence community should have been taken to congress and then investigated, not to the press.
Trill Clinton
02-15-2017, 04:12 PM
The 'Moscow Mike' movie is going to be lit
TheSanityAnnex
02-15-2017, 04:22 PM
The 'Moscow Mike' movie is going to be lit
Toliath
pgardn
02-15-2017, 04:28 PM
The info from the intelligence community should have been taken to congress and then investigated, not to the press.
How do you know intelligence leaked it ? Trump's OWN people could have. Especially Seeing how Flynn lied to both Trump and Pence apparently. Again, for the umteenth time, Trump's own could have leaked this. It's clear Mattis really wanted Flynn out.
So You don't know who leaked. Admit it.
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 06:27 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 06:33 PM
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boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 06:34 PM
NSA/FBI leaked, if it were them, because Trash knew Flynn was informed but did nothing for weeks. Trash forced their hand.
TSA, GFY
The question remains, why were so many of Trash's people in contact with Russian security and operatives?
djohn2oo8
02-15-2017, 07:09 PM
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TheSanityAnnex
02-15-2017, 07:26 PM
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"leaks of classified information by current and former government employees"
they didn't think this request through very well. The FBI already said there was no wrongdoing or illicit ties concerning Flynn. Grassley/Feinstein are just going to expose the intelligence leakers and lose allies they had inside the IC community. Trump will thank them for helping him drain the swamp.
clambake
02-15-2017, 07:58 PM
"leaks of classified information by current and former government employees"
they didn't think this request through very well. The FBI already said there was no wrongdoing or illicit ties concerning Flynn. Grassley/Feinstein are just going to expose the intelligence leakers and lose allies they had inside the IC community. Trump will thank them for helping him drain the swamp.
uhhh, well, what the hell. let'em look anyway.
ElNono
02-15-2017, 08:29 PM
Are you claiming a leak that resulted from a phishing scheme and a leak from the intelligence community directly to the press are comparable?
You claimed FBIAnon was a legit FBI source... what am I missing?
boutons_deux
02-15-2017, 09:15 PM
Chaffetz wants IG to go after leakers, not traitorous Repugs compromised by Russia
da_suns_fan
02-15-2017, 11:14 PM
I would love for the Russian/conspiracy story to be true but I dont think it is.
Its the same with the Clinton "secret/private server".
Remember. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Hillary doesnt know how to use a desktop computer. The entire Trump campaign was a giant cluster-fuck. They couldnt pull of a conspiracy if they wanted to.
pgardn
02-15-2017, 11:41 PM
I would love for the Russian/conspiracy story to be true but I dont think it is.
Its the same with the Clinton "secret/private server".
Remember. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Hillary doesnt know how to use a desktop computer. The entire Trump campaign was a giant cluster-fuck. They couldnt pull off a conspiracy if they wanted to.
Everything is so damn sloppy so far.
The bolded... exactly.
There is some pseudo aura that surrounds Trump, because he won, Not because of who he is. This is ST, so every win, and every loss, must be explained in the most fanciful way possible. We may just have a hugely incompetent leader.
Thread
02-16-2017, 12:02 AM
Everything is so damn sloppy so far.
The bolded... exactly.
There is some pseudo aura that surrounds Trump, because he won, Not because of who he is. This is ST, so every win, and every loss, must be explained in the most fanciful way possible. We may just have a hugely incompetent leader.
He's us, garden, or, at least (me)...he'd fit right in here. He's all about "every win"---hell, I taught SF all about "every win"---all about the count. I brought you fuckers with me. You still don't get it, but, you're closer. I got you away from your parochial limitations and showed you what "every win" means. The difference twixt Trump & me? I take "every loss" with me. Taught you fellows that as well, right out the wells of my eyes in a shed of tears. Trump? He keeps his losses close, always inside the wire.
That chef, the one that walked out on Trump, the one Trump is suing his ass for it. Came out again this week with the pipe of piece. "No." You're gonna be taught a lesson. And you'll be a better for it. Lighter in the wallet, yes, but, learned.
D.J. Trump
da_suns_fan
02-16-2017, 12:35 AM
Everything is so damn sloppy so far.
The bolded... exactly.
There is some pseudo aura that surrounds Trump, because he won, Not because of who he is. This is ST, so every win, and every loss, must be explained in the most fanciful way possible. We may just have a hugely incompetent leader.
Right.
And they can be grossly incompetent or sinister/strategic. Not both.
Youre telling me they went through three campaign managers from June through October all while colluding with the Russians? Give me a break. They cant even figure out if Flynn was fired or quit. They proposed a 20% Mexico tariff and back-tracked three hours later. They tried to play tough on the "One China" policy and folded like tortillas before the end of the month.
Now that doesnt mean I rule out the Russians having dirt/power over Trump. At this point Putin seems to be the only person on the planet Trump hasnt thrown under the bus. Best case scenario is he's so thin skinned and stubborn he doesnt want to say anything about a guy who said something nice about him and wants to give the middle finger to everyone telling him to denounce Russia. Worst case scenario is he owes a shit ton of money to a bunch of Russians and is hoping to maybe have it forgiven.
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 07:29 AM
Were the Trash people also in contact during/after the campaign with "senior people" in UK, Germany, France, Japan, Canada, Mexico?
or was it JUST Russia?
Splits
02-16-2017, 08:04 AM
They tried to play tough on the "One China" policy and folded like tortillas before the end of the month.
China Awards Trump Valuable New Trademark (http://www.voanews.com/a/china-trump-trademark/3725565.html)
February 15, 2017 10:09 AM Associated Press
SHANGHAI — China has awarded President Donald Trump a valuable new trademark. The win comes after a 10-year dispute and raises a host of ethical questions about the president's foreign intellectual property.
China's Trademark Office posted the registration of Trump's new mark, which became official Feb. 14, to its website Wednesday. It gives Trump the right to use his name for building construction services in China through 2027.
I'm sure after 10 years, this is purely coincidental.
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 08:50 AM
You're FIRED!
Trump’s defense chief Mattis: ‘Very little doubt’ that Russia interferes with elections
U.S President Donald Trump’s defense secretary on Thursday said he did not see the conditions for military collaboration with Russia, in a blow to Moscow’s hopes for repairing ties with the United States following Trump’s election.
“We are not in a position right now to collaborate on a military level. But our political leaders will engage and try to find common ground,”
Mattis told reporters after talks at NATO headquarters in Brussels.
Asked whether he believed that Russia interfered in U.S. presidential elections, Mattis said:
“Right now, I would just say there’s very little doubt that they have either interfered or they have attempted to interfere in a number of elections in the democracies.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/trumps-defense-chief-mattis-very-little-doubt-that-russia-interferes-with-elections/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
pgardn
02-16-2017, 08:50 AM
He's us, garden, or, at least (me)...he'd fit right in here. He's all about "every win"---hell, I taught SF all about "every win"---all about the count. I brought you fuckers with me. You still don't get it, but, you're closer. I got you away from your parochial limitations and showed you what "every win" means. The difference twixt Trump & me? I take "every loss" with me. Taught you fellows that as well, right out the wells of my eyes in a shed of tears. Trump? He keeps his losses close, always inside the wire.
That chef, the one that walked out on Trump, the one Trump is suing his ass for it. Came out again this week with the pipe of piece. "No." You're gonna be taught a lesson. And you'll be a better for it. Lighter in the wallet, yes, but, learned.
D.J. Trump
Ahhhh
Here is where "your" type get into huge trouble imo:
The scoreboard is off. W and Ls are now subjective. There is a job to be done in which some outcomes can only be Ls as viewed by the ignorant. Others will understand there is no good outcome and no good answer for some situations. This is not a binary world. If you want your world to be yes/no, W/L, good luck with the rest of your journey. You have made things very easy on yourself, but at the same time, impossible.
Thats my take.
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 08:58 AM
Russian spy ship spotted closer to US, near Navy submarine base
The Russian spy ship Viktor Leonov on Wednesday morning was spotted 40 miles closer to the U.S. -- and not far from a Navy submarine base in Connecticut, a U.S. official told Fox News
The ship was spotted 30 miles south of Groton, Conn., but it remained in international waters. The U.S. territorial boundary extends 12 miles from the coast.
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2017/02/15/russian-spy-ship-spotted-30-miles-south-connecticut/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-3/images/image.img.jpg/880/558/1487182472758.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/15/russian-spy-ship-spotted-30-miles-south-connecticut.html#)
A pair of Russian Su-24 jets pass within close proximity of the guided-missile destroyer USS Porter in an aggressive action taken by Russia on Friday. (U.S. Navy)
The Russian spy ship was currently “loitering” in the water, the U.S. official said.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/15/russian-spy-ship-spotted-30-miles-south-connecticut.html
Pootin warning US not to fuck with his precious BoyToy Trash?
pgardn
02-16-2017, 09:07 AM
You're FIRED!
Trump’s defense chief Mattis: ‘Very little doubt’ that Russia interferes with elections
U.S President Donald Trump’s defense secretary on Thursday said he did not see the conditions for military collaboration with Russia, in a blow to Moscow’s hopes for repairing ties with the United States following Trump’s election.
“We are not in a position right now to collaborate on a military level. But our political leaders will engage and try to find common ground,”
Mattis told reporters after talks at NATO headquarters in Brussels.
Asked whether he believed that Russia interfered in U.S. presidential elections, Mattis said:
“Right now, I would just say there’s very little doubt that they have either interfered or they have attempted to interfere in a number of elections in the democracies.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/trumps-defense-chief-mattis-very-little-doubt-that-russia-interferes-with-elections/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
This is one man who is clearly fine with "leaks" bringing down Flynn. So if anyone thinks the leaks must have come from intelligence, not necessarily. Trump has put together a group of liars and backstabbers... Me first people. This is why many Republicans are circling like buzzards. The election is over, it's time to do a job. Doing a job will lead to massive carnage for this group of blowhards led by a blowhard. So sad!
Luckily the country can still function. But the gaps are there, and power will flow into them. Lots of rearranging of power. The financial sector looks elated at the mess until the mess gets beyond their immediate gains.
Russian spy ship spotted closer to US, near Navy submarine base
The Russian spy ship Viktor Leonov on Wednesday morning was spotted 40 miles closer to the U.S. -- and not far from a Navy submarine base in Connecticut, a U.S. official told Fox News
The ship was spotted 30 miles south of Groton, Conn., but it remained in international waters. The U.S. territorial boundary extends 12 miles from the coast.
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2017/02/15/russian-spy-ship-spotted-30-miles-south-connecticut/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-3/images/image.img.jpg/880/558/1487182472758.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/15/russian-spy-ship-spotted-30-miles-south-connecticut.html#)
A pair of Russian Su-24 jets pass within close proximity of the guided-missile destroyer USS Porter in an aggressive action taken by Russia on Friday. (U.S. Navy)
The Russian spy ship was currently “loitering” in the water, the U.S. official said.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/15/russian-spy-ship-spotted-30-miles-south-connecticut.html
Pootin warning US not to fuck with his precious BoyToy Trash?
My son's stationed on the Eisenhower (CVN 69 - Carrier); spent from June to December in the Persian Gulf; then back to port in Norfolk. After all the sailors got some leave; Went back out for three weeks, spent loitering in the Atlantic relatively near our own shores; back in now for just a few days and headed back out without a specific destination. Much more active than its been in the past when not specifically deployed on a mission.
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 09:20 AM
This is one man who is clearly fine with "leaks" bringing down Flynn.
Flynn is nuts, made LOTS of enemies, got fired from his last govt job as DIA, now shitcanned again.
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 12:51 PM
Russian Government Asks Propaganda Outlets to Cut Back on Pro-Trump Content
http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Vladimir-Putin-e1443458548397.pngAccording to reporting from Bloomberg Politics (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-16/kremlin-said-to-tell-media-to-cut-back-on-fawning-trump-coverage), the Russian government has asked their state-owned outlets not to put out as much pro-Donald Trump content.
The reason for the cut-back is multifaceted. For one, the Kremlin reportedly now fears Trump may not be as friendly to Russia as they first thought, after Trump began tweeting out anti-Russia sentiments (http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-attacks-obama-on-russia-literally-minutes-after-fox-friends-made-same-point/). “The fate of Russia-American relations is much less predictable than it was just a few weeks ago,” one Russian journalist told Bloomberg.
The Kremlin publicly argues the Russian people simply aren’t that interested in the current “wall-to-wall coverage” of the Trump transition. At the moment, Russian television mentions Trump more often daily than Vladimir Putin himself.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/russian-government-asks-propaganda-outlets-to-cut-back-on-pro-trump-content/
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-16/kremlin-said-to-tell-media-to-cut-back-on-fawning-trump-coverage
This if pro-forma bullshit.
Trash trying to downplay his obeisance to, puppetry under Pootin by making a few innocuous "negative" comments, aided by Rexxon Tillerson doing the same.
As soon if, or IF whenever, the "opposition" press and Dems lay off the Trash's Russian corruption, Trash and Tillerson will be 100% pro-Russian in under-the-table acts, if not verbally.
They've both probably told Pootin how they have to "go negative" for the time being.
TheSanityAnnex
02-16-2017, 01:14 PM
This is one man who is clearly fine with "leaks" bringing down Flynn. So if anyone thinks the leaks must have come from intelligence, not necessarily. Trump has put together a group of liars and backstabbers... Me first people. This is why many Republicans are circling like buzzards. The election is over, it's time to do a job. Doing a job will lead to massive carnage for this group of blowhards led by a blowhard. So sad!
Luckily the country can still function. But the gaps are there, and power will flow into them. Lots of rearranging of power. The financial sector looks elated at the mess until the mess gets beyond their immediate gains.Flynn had threatened to expose the details of the Iran deal, could have been Ben Rhodes leaking info to the press.
clambake
02-16-2017, 01:32 PM
Flynn had threatened to expose the details of the Iran deal, could have been Ben Rhodes leaking info to the press.
wut?
TheSanityAnnex
02-16-2017, 02:11 PM
wut?
Flynn had threatened to expose the details of the Iran deal, could have been Ben Rhodes leaking info to the press.
wut?
He got that info from 4chan. Stop questioning it, peasant.
TheSanityAnnex
02-16-2017, 02:22 PM
He got that info from 4chan. Stop questioning it, peasant.
wut?
TheSanityAnnex
02-16-2017, 02:46 PM
Hypocritical faggots
Obama Adviser Tied to Hamas Meetings Resigns By Glenn Kessler
An informal Middle East adviser to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign resigned Friday after a newspaper reported on his regular meetings with members of the Hamas militant group.
Rob Malley said he wanted to stop being a distraction for the campaign after facing attacks from the blogosphere for months for allegedly being anti-Israel, a charge he denies. Malley is a former National Security Council aide to President Bill Clinton who is now with the International Crisis Group, a nonpartisan conflict-resolution think tank.
Malley's departure comes at a sensitive time for Obama, who appears to be nearing the Democratic nomination but has struggled to win the support of Jewish and pro-Israel voters. Hamas, which won Palestinian legislative elections in 2006, refuses to recognize Israel and is dedicated to its destruction.
In reporting analytic reports he wrote for ICG, Malley would interview Hamas officials, as well as Israeli, American, European and other Palestinian officials. The reports, which made clear he had met with Hamas, feature recommendations for key players in the peace process. Malley said he informed the State Department before he met with Hamas and then briefed State afterwards on what he had learned.
"To do my job, I have to meet with savory and unsavory people," he said.
But Malley said that after he fielded a call this morning from the Times of London, which asked about the Hamas meetings, he decided he had had enough. "This was a distraction for me; this was a distraction for them," he said Friday night. "It is absurd, but that is what this campaign is about."
Malley decribed himself as an informal adviser who disagrees with Obama "on many things" regarding the Middle East, but he knew a lot of people in the Illinois senator's campaign and so from "time to time would offer advice they were free to disregard."
"Mr. Malley has, like hundreds of other experts, provided informal advice to the campaign," said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor. "He has no formal role in the campaign and he will not play any role in the future."
By Post Editor | May 9, 2008; 10:17 PM ET
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/05/obama-adviser-tied-to-hamas-me.html
Spurminator
02-16-2017, 02:57 PM
"To do my job, I have to meet with savory and unsavory people," he said.
Seems like a reasonable explanation to me. How does this compare with Flynn's situation? (Aside from the outrage and his resignation)
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 03:03 PM
"How does this compare with Flynn's situation?"
It's not only Flynn. It's Russian oligarchs keeping indebted Trash org afloat with loans.
It's several of Trash's team, advisors, associates who were in contact with Russians during, after the election.
Why Russia specifically, and why not all of USA's major allies?
Flynn gone is only the beginning, not the end.
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 04:21 PM
Trump wants you to believe 2 contradictory things about the Russia scandal
A story can’t both be “fake news” and the result of illegal leaks.
President Trump wants you to be alarmed by “low-life leakers” who are sharing classified details with the media about his inner circle’s connections with Russia.
But he also wants you to believe the “FAKE NEWS media” is partnering with Democrats to invent the whole scandal.
In a series of tweets posted on Wednesday and Thursday, he alternatively described the Russia scandal as “non-sense” and a “made up” story — and,
simultaneously, as a story based on “information” being “illegally given” to the media by “low-life leakers.”
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-russia-fake-news-media-low-life-leakers-9e298956ecad#.n803i5dr1
All y'all's Dear Leader is hilariously ignorant, thinking depth, reflection totally missing.
Simply, spastically spouting off random BULLSHIT, with no idea of where he's been or where's he's going.
djohn2oo8
02-16-2017, 06:19 PM
832367659421487104
boutons_deux
02-16-2017, 07:30 PM
https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/BEBdm1lrMnoUTujisF9MpKAghdIWVTKB5h17cFS86NSxyaPeif vy-SQ64-FgXGWOGLSu54VN91q5YJHa1lKnpH1C2HEJp_nT1yaeIlSYfGUP oIz8ZgpJ8VuXDC6ZdNxplMSQ7uLAVxuAJdp1BUbTUABWUCMI52 e6LW8WSUzOv_ZaXWbvSg=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.trbimg.com/img-58a38c81/turbine/mc-flynn-resigns-trump-white-house-staff-hunt-0215-20170214/576/16x9
Winehole23
02-17-2017, 10:31 AM
President Trump plans to assign a New York billionaire to lead a broad review of American intelligence agencies, according to administration officials, an effort that members of the intelligence community fear could curtail their independence and reduce the flow of information that contradicts the president’s worldview.The possible role for Stephen A. Feinberg (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/stephen_a_feinberg/index.html?inline=nyt-per), a co-founder of Cerberus Capital Management, has met fierce resistance among intelligence officials already on edge because of the criticism the intelligence community has received from Mr. Trump during the campaign and since he became president.https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html?_r=0
Winehole23
02-17-2017, 10:33 AM
Even the prospect that Mr. Feinberg may lead a review for the White House has raised concerns in the intelligence community.
Mr. Coats is especially angry at what he sees as a move by Mr. Bannon and Mr. Kushner to sideline him before he is even confirmed, according to current and former officials. He believes the review would impinge on a central part of his role as the director of national intelligence and fears that if Mr. Feinberg were working at the White House, he could quickly become a dominant voice on intelligence matters.
Michael V. Hayden, a retired general who ran the C.I.A. and the National Security Agency during President George W. Bush’s administration, said it was hard to wrap his head around “the idea of a D.N.I. nominee in the confirmation process while others consider retooling the position.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies-stephen-feinberg.html?_r=0
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 11:52 AM
832594035965644801
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 11:54 AM
832767742788775936
Winehole23
02-18-2017, 12:05 PM
I wouldn't call three Congressional investigations something big. I would call it a complicated CYA, plus grandstanding for the cameras.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/17/politics/comey-russia-senate/index.html
boutons_deux
02-18-2017, 12:07 PM
I wouldn't call three Congressional investigations something big. I would call it a complicated CYA, plus grandstanding for the cameras.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/17/politics/comey-russia-senate/index.html
I read 7 investigations, Repugs will neuter all of them
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 12:14 PM
832707332752699392
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 12:19 PM
832695356823597056
Thread
02-18-2017, 12:22 PM
832695356823597056
I was first with this. Me
Two days ago.
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 12:26 PM
I was first with this. Me
Two days ago.
What did you say
Thread
02-18-2017, 12:42 PM
What did you say
I reported what that Faulkner woman on FOX said during an {Outnumbered} appearance. That they had something big and it was coming soon.
I was first. Me
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 12:49 PM
I reported what that Faulkner woman on FOX said during an {Outnumbered} appearance. That they had something big and it was coming soon.
I was first. Me
Congrats cul. Looks like it's coming.
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 12:53 PM
and Russia is close to turning on Trump
Thread
02-18-2017, 12:59 PM
Congrats cul. Looks like it's coming.
I don't hide my shit, Lakers, Trump, or, otherwise. That's my religion.
He was evasive in that NC on queries into the situation. So was Preibus yesterday. They have not come out and stated plainly that they're 100% pure. And it's easiest thing in the world to do if you are.
Just got to enjoy the days and pray that he hasn't ruined himself.
Splits
02-18-2017, 01:07 PM
832708293516632065
832707332752699392
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 01:15 PM
833009200498429957
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 01:21 PM
832744933387689984
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 01:22 PM
832745158563094528
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 01:23 PM
832745647375736833
:lol
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 01:30 PM
833018256470454272
boutons_deux
02-18-2017, 01:39 PM
Robert Reich: We need answers to these 6 questions about Michael Flynn
1. Why didn’t Trump act sooner to fire Flynn?
He knew about Flynn’s contact with the Russian ambassador at least since January, when then-acting Attorney General Sally Yates notified the White House that Flynn had “put himself in a compromising position” with his phone call to the Russian ambassador.
2. What, if anything, did Trump authorize Michael Flynn to tell the Russians before the inauguration?
3. What other contacts did Flynn and other Trump aides have with Russia before the election?
U.S. intelligence reports show that Flynn was in touch with Russian ambassador Kislyak during the 2016 campaign, and that communications between the two continued after Nov. 8. The Russian ambassador has even confirmed having contacts with Flynn before and after the election, though he declined to say what was discussed.
4. Did Flynn or other Trump aides know of or cooperate with Russia in interfering in the 2016 election on Trump’s behalf?
5. If so, did Trump know about or encourage such cooperation?
These questions won’t go away. The FBI and the Senate Intelligence Community are investigating. Hopefully, investigative reporters are also on the case. Eventually, the truth will come out. As Richard Nixon learned, coverups in Washington just make things worse.
Which leads inevitably to the last question:
6. If Trump knew or encouraged this, will he be impeached?
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/18/michael-flynn-and-the-6-big-questions_partner/
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 02:16 PM
833030596502908928
boutons_deux
02-18-2017, 03:19 PM
Trash loved Assange leaking to damage Hillary, but he hates leaking that damages Trash :lol
The Same Republicans Who Pushed For Invasive Surveillance Are Complaining About It Now
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, is not particularly concerned by the fact that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn discussed sanctions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.3206607865bb) against Russia with the Russian ambassador during the transition.
Nor is Nunes worried about evidence that Paul Manafort and other Trump aides were in frequent contact (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html) with Russian intelligence officials during the presidential campaign.
But he is shocked—shocked—that the communications of Trumps’ confidantes were obtained by U.S. intelligence agencies.
“The big problem I see here,” he huffed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/14/fbi-needs-to-explain-why-michael-flynn-was-recorded-gop-intelligence-chairman-says/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.ecde1c57b807), “is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.” :lol
On multiple occasions in the past decade, Nunes, along with the other Republican lawmakers now complaining about the surveillance, has
enthusiastically backed the law that allows the warrantless domestic collection of millions of Americans’ calls and emails each year.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/02/18/same-republicans-who-pushed-invasive-surveillance-are-complaining-about-it-now
As always, depends on whose ox is getting gored.
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 03:55 PM
833054767945392128
Splits
02-18-2017, 03:57 PM
833054767945392128
SHIT IS ABOUT TO GET REAL
833054767945392128
And they said this Russian thing would just blow over. :lol
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 04:44 PM
833054767945392128
An actual quote from the article makes it much less sensational
This counterintelligence inquiry includes but is not limited to examination of financial transactions by Russian individuals and companies who are believed to have links to Trump associates. The transactions under scrutiny involve investments by Russians in overseas entities that appear to have been undertaken through middlemen and front companies, two people briefed on the probe said.
Reuters could not confirm which entities and individuals were under scrutiny.
"believed"
"appear to"
"sources said"
Winehole23
02-18-2017, 04:47 PM
833009200498429957In fairness, DJT wasn't POTUS at the time, but people did notice that Mar-A-Lago dues were doubled after the election.
Winehole23
02-18-2017, 04:48 PM
"believed"
"appear to"
"sources said"Good enough for Pizzagate, did you get whiplash from the sudden conversion to skepticism?
An actual quote from the article makes it much less sensational
This counterintelligence inquiry includes but is not limited to examination of financial transactions by Russian individuals and companies who are believed to have links to Trump associates. The transactions under scrutiny involve investments by Russians in overseas entities that appear to have been undertaken through middlemen and front companies, two people briefed on the probe said.
Reuters could not confirm which entities and individuals were under scrutiny.
"believed"
"appear to"
"sources said"
Not starting shit wit you but its funny how you are quickly to discredit and make this of little consequence but you treat your own conspiracies like iminent breaking news.
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 04:53 PM
lol even Fox news getting in with it
833068042636685313
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 04:55 PM
Good enough for Pizzagate, did you get whiplash from the sudden conversion to skepticism?
I've never made definitive claims about pizzagate.
boutons_deux
02-18-2017, 04:59 PM
I've never made definitive claims about pizzagate.
:lol
But like Flynn did with baby eating and other shit, you passed it on, felt it was newsworthy, worth spreading around.
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 04:59 PM
Not starting shit wit you but its funny how you are quickly to discredit and make this of little consequence but you treat your own conspiracies like iminent breaking news.
I'm not discrediting it just pointing out to djohn the actual article isn't as sensational as the tweet leads you to believe.
I keep all pedophile news in one thread, your second point fails.
Winehole23
02-18-2017, 05:00 PM
I've never made definitive claims about pizzagate.You want to believe
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 05:01 PM
833068103206629381
:lmao Tillerson has become frustrated
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 05:02 PM
:lol
But like Flynn did with baby eating and other shit, you passed it on, felt it was newsworthy, worth spreading around.
Pedophilia is a massive problem amongst the powerful and elite and that fact is worthy of being spread around.
boutons_deux
02-18-2017, 05:03 PM
Repugs gonna spend their 10-day recess avoiding ACA beneficiaries, no in-person town halls, and figuring out just how and when to impeach Trash.
He's too much of a distraction, too much a drag on the Repug scorched-earth fucking up America.
As horrible as the Repug's rep is, Trash lowers it even more.
I suggest they do the blood tests to see if Trash is neuro-syphilitic and going crazy. :lol That would cheap, and very fast.
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 05:05 PM
If you guys want to continue down the pedophilia path PM or take it to the other thread.
boutons_deux
02-18-2017, 05:05 PM
833068103206629381
:lmao Tillerson has become frustrated
Trash, Miller, Bannon, Gorka, Tillerson purging career pros out of service, or side-tracking them into ignorable, ineffective, trivialized roles.
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 05:06 PM
833047561464320000
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 05:10 PM
Trash, Miller, Bannon, Gorka, Tillerson purging career pros out of service, or side-tracking them into ignorable, ineffective, trivialized roles.
This is exactly what Trump said he would do, why are you shocked he is actually following through?
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 05:11 PM
833073790443720704
Winehole23
02-18-2017, 05:11 PM
draining the swamp of brains and bureaucratic know-how?
not surprised, but DJT may soon rue the decision.
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 05:13 PM
833073790443720704
Do you mind just posting the actual article instead of tweet?
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 05:15 PM
833069256258547713
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 05:17 PM
Do you mind just posting the actual article instead of tweet?
By Noah Barkin | MUNICH
One month into the unusual presidency of Donald Trump, his most senior cabinet members were deployed to Brussels, Bonn and Munich this week to reassure nervous Europeans that everything would be okay.
The Europeans heard from Defense Secretary James Mattis that the NATO military alliance was not "obsolete" after all, despite Trump's repeated suggestions to the contrary.
And they were told by Vice President Mike Pence that Russia would be "held accountable" for its actions in Ukraine, despite Trump's friendly overtures to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
But if the aim of the visits was to reassure Europe that the pillars of U.S. foreign policy are fully intact, they fell short of the mark, European diplomats, politicians and analysts gathered in Munich said.
"What we heard here is not reassuring," Ruprecht Polenz, former head of the foreign affairs committee in the German parliament, told Reuters after Pence's speech to the Munich Security Conference. "There is absolutely no vision for how we are going to work together, going forward."
Pence was the highest-ranking member of the Trump team to travel to Europe and his address was eagerly awaited. Eight years ago in the same hall, his predecessor Joe Biden made headlines with a promise to "reset" relations with Russia.
But unlike Biden, Pence came to Munich with a fatal handicap: the perception, fueled by the circumstances surrounding the recent resignation of national security adviser Michael Flynn, that he is not part of Trump's inner circle.
"His mission was always going to be hard, but it was made even more so by the questions about his lack of influence inside the White House," said Derek Chollet, a top defense policy adviser to former president Barack Obama who is now with the German Marshall Fund of the United States.
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The vice president tried to tackle these doubts head-on by making clear at the start of his speech that he was speaking for Trump.
But then he went on to mention the president 19 times in the course of the 20-minute speech, prompting one audience member, the author and historian Robert Kagan, to dismiss the address as a "robotic salute to the man in power".
"Pence and Mattis and Tillerson can come here and talk about the importance of the transatlantic relationship and NATO - and that is all good," said Elmar Brok, head of the foreign affairs committee of the European Parliament and a party ally of German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
"But we don't know what's coming on Twitter tomorrow morning," he said, referring to Trump's penchant for spilling out policy statements via social media.
Flynn's resignation has deepened the mystery over who Trump will listen to on foreign policy, although his chief strategist Steve Bannon and son-in-law Jared Kushner are both seen as influential.
One European diplomat likened the challenge of figuring out who to listen to in the Trump administration to the task of "Kremlinologists" during the Cold War.
Ulrich Speck, a foreign policy analyst at the Elcano think tank in Brussels, said the conundrum that Henry Kissinger evoked when he famously asked who he should call when he wanted to talk to "Europe" seemed to have been turned on its head.
"Now Europe is asking who it should call if it wants to talk to the United States," Speck said.
Besides his reassurances on NATO and Russia relations, Pence tried to assuage fears that the United States is moving away from democratic values under Trump, who has attacked the media and judiciary repeatedly since taking power a month ago.
"This is President Trump's promise," Pence said. "We will stand with Europe, today and every day, because we are bound together by the same noble ideals – freedom, democracy, justice, and the rule of law."
EU SUPPORT
This message was welcomed, but others went down poorly.
Pence raised eyebrows by suggesting that the nuclear deal between the world's major powers and Iran, which has strong support across Europe, was freeing up resources for Tehran to promote terrorism.
And his repeated references to "radical Islamic terrorism" irked some who feel the Trump administration is targeting all Muslims in its fight against extremists. Merkel explicitly warned against this in a speech just before Pence spoke.
Some audience members were also dismissive of Pence's promise to relegate Islamic State to the "ash-heap of history", saying such hyperbolic rhetoric was better suited to a U.S. election campaign than a European audience.
French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault expressed his displeasure with the fact that Pence had not sent a message of support for the European Union, something Munich organizer Wolfgang Ischinger had called on the vice president to do before the conference.
Trump has praised Britain's decision to leave the EU and suggested other countries follow, stirring concerns that he could abandon decades of U.S. policy and actively encourage the disintegration of the 28-member bloc.
"I was struck that he never mentioned the EU," said Ayrault.
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 05:21 PM
:tu
djohn2oo8
02-18-2017, 05:39 PM
833081651928391681
lol Priebus
Winehole23
02-18-2017, 05:44 PM
"frank discussion with future counterparts" sounds legit to me.
the lies come so thick and so quickly from this administration it's hard to conceive anyone ever being fired for it.
DJT probably fired Flynn for some other reason. Maybe he figured out Flynn is an unstable wacko-bird.
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 06:17 PM
833081651928391681
lol Priebus
The FBI said the same thing about the intercepted Flynn phone calls.
The FBI said the same thing about the intercepted Flynn phone calls.
So..is that why they have 3 seperate investigation going over this Russia thing?
TheSanityAnnex
02-18-2017, 07:13 PM
So..is that why they have 3 seperate investigation going over this Russia thing?
The 3 investigations are about Russia hacking the election, not Flynn. You'd know this if you'd read beyond a tweet.
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:02 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:05 PM
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Adam Lambert
02-19-2017, 02:07 PM
they'll delete everything and cry fake news
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:08 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:09 PM
they'll delete everything and cry fake news
Other countries have Intel on those involved. If they shred these documents they are fucked. They probably are either way. Russia for sure has those documents.
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:10 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:17 PM
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:lmao holy shit!!!
boutons_deux
02-19-2017, 02:22 PM
Trash, soon to be RIJ.
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:38 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:40 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:47 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 02:57 PM
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boutons_deux
02-19-2017, 03:03 PM
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So Trash's team is trying install another Pootin puppet?
"And Mr. Artemenko said he had received encouragement for his plans from top aides to Mr. Putin."
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 03:10 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 03:34 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 03:39 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 03:42 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 05:58 PM
So Trump's lawyer is on Twitter arguing with a reporter over his lies lol
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 06:16 PM
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:lmao forgetting to turn off his geolocation tag
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 06:36 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 06:39 PM
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Twitter exposing them lame asses. :lol
Thread
02-19-2017, 07:10 PM
[[[any1one (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-2d71d223de2e45dd0488a2e4d6950de8/) • 31 minutes ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3164516741)DON'T DO ANYTHING..tell them all to pound sand..if they want anything, make them go to court like JUDICIAL WATCH had to 2,349,645,639 times to get a judge to ORDER all the obummer admin. commies to preserve everything which by the time the court got around to ruling in JW, s favor, everyone of obummer's treasonous traitors went to the c hitlery's house and did their laundry with her bleach..]]]
[[[any1one (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-2d71d223de2e45dd0488a2e4d6950de8/) • 31 minutes ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3164516741)DON'T DO ANYTHING..tell them all to pound sand..if they want anything, make them go to court like JUDICIAL WATCH had to 2,349,645,639 times to get a judge to ORDER all the obummer admin. commies to preserve everything which by the time the court got around to ruling in JW, s favor, everyone of obummer's treasonous traitors went to the c hitlery's house and did their laundry with her bleach..]]]
Oh baby gravy. Do it.
Doesn't this feel like shades of Nixon, Cub? I feel it.
Thread
02-19-2017, 07:15 PM
Oh baby gravy. Do it.
Doesn't this feel like shades of Nixon, Cub? I feel it.
Of course you feel it, they've been beating that Nixon drum for over a week. Make no mistake Bill Clinton remains the lone duly elected U.S. President to be impeached.
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[[[stevek11 (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-03e0704b5690a2dee1861dc3ad3316c9/) • 9 hours ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3163814918)Schumer is concerned the administration might delete emails? Where would they get an idea like that? Chuck do you think the deletions would total more than, or less than 33,000?]]]
Thread
02-19-2017, 07:16 PM
[[[WoofonWallStreet (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-20b02e57f3c1a6b7d540329b76cd61a6/) • 9 hours ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3163787885)Shcumer forgets that it was the DNC who asked the British spy to get the Russians to hack Trump and other conservative candidates first. But as usual when you turn a light on, there is nothing but librats scurrying for cover. This is just more bluster out of the minority camp. But Schumer knows this and he's just looking for talking points. The longer American democrats go without accepting some guilt for their loss the better it is for Trump and America. They will never win seats back unless they have some fresh ideas.]]]
Of course you feel it, they've been beating that Nixon drum for over a week. Make no mistake Bill Clinton remains the lone duly elected U.S. President to be impeached.
Billy Got a clean bill of health by the senate though.
Thread
02-19-2017, 07:46 PM
Billy Got a clean bill of health by the senate though.
Bill Clinton was impeached.
Thread
02-19-2017, 07:49 PM
[[[Jax Teller SOA (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-f6a122a8cdc86f8e8c07297c074b4fa7/) • 10 hours ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3163768995)They should also be demanding that both houses of Congress investigate George Soros, his financial influence on members of the government and how they both publicly push the globalist agenda and vote !!!!]]]
djohn2oo8
02-19-2017, 07:51 PM
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[[[Jax Teller SOA (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-f6a122a8cdc86f8e8c07297c074b4fa7/) • 10 hours ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3163768995)They should also be demanding that both houses of Congress investigate George Soros, his financial influence on members of the government and how they both publicly push the globalist agenda and vote !!!!]]]
Hah. Got you.
Trump got the backing of the Mercers, Aldeson and Icahn.
You're not going home alone, Cubby.
Thread
02-19-2017, 08:31 PM
[[[WoofonWallStreet (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-20b02e57f3c1a6b7d540329b76cd61a6/) • 9 hours ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3163787885)Shcumer forgets that it was the DNC who asked the British spy to get the Russians to hack Trump and other conservative candidates first. But as usual when you turn a light on, there is nothing but librats scurrying for cover. This is just more bluster out of the minority camp. But Schumer knows this and he's just looking for talking points. The longer American democrats go without accepting some guilt for their loss the better it is for Trump and America. They will never win seats back unless they have some fresh ideas.]]]
Pelicans78
02-19-2017, 09:13 PM
Trump better learn from Flynn's fuck-up. Cover-up is usually worse than the actual event. Poor Nixon had to learn the hard way.
Thread
02-19-2017, 09:23 PM
Trump better learn from Flynn's fuck-up. Cover-up is usually worse than the actual event. Poor Nixon had to learn the hard way.
Nixon had to give it up the office because of his phlebitis, Pel.
djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 01:05 AM
In the Washington post and Chicago Tribune
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djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 01:10 AM
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Splits Get ready for scalp #7 shortly.
djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 02:18 AM
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How stupid is Cohen to be talking to newspapers :lol
djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 02:39 AM
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djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 08:16 AM
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djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 08:23 AM
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djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 08:34 AM
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02-20-2017, 08:56 AM
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hater
02-20-2017, 09:19 AM
:lmao the last 25 or so posts above me are complete nonsense :lmao quoting random retards on twitter :lmao
Sitll zero evidence :lol
pgardn
02-20-2017, 09:50 AM
:lmao the last 25 or so posts above me are complete nonsense :lmao quoting random retards on twitter :lmao
Sitll zero evidence :lol
Zero evidence for what?
Trump and Pence both got lied to. The word got out that Flynn had lied. Then, and only then, the administration was forced to fire him.
Why did they even fire what they viewed as an excellent man for the job?
djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 10:00 AM
:lmao the last 25 or so posts above me are complete nonsense :lmao quoting random retards on twitter :lmao
Sitll zero evidence :lol
Zero evidence when Trump's own lawyer told on himself. Okay guy :lmao
hater is that Don Eugenio in your avatar?
Might as well. You're gonna need some santeria to get out of this one. :lol
pgardn
02-20-2017, 10:12 AM
Of course you feel it, they've been beating that Nixon drum for over a week. Make no mistake Bill Clinton remains the lone duly elected U.S. President to be impeached.
---
[[[stevek11 (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-03e0704b5690a2dee1861dc3ad3316c9/) • 9 hours ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-russia-election-hacking/2017/02/19/id/774429/#comment-3163814918)Schumer is concerned the administration might delete emails? Where would they get an idea like that? Chuck do you think the deletions would total more than, or less than 33,000?]]]
Which was a very very stupid move by the Republicans.
It did nothing but elevate the status of a liar.
djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 03:01 PM
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ElNono
02-20-2017, 04:04 PM
This is getting pizzagate levels of ridiculousness. Look, if there's some shit going on, indictments will start flying...
Splits
02-20-2017, 04:06 PM
This is getting pizzagate levels of ridiculousness. Look, if there's some shit going on, indictments will start flying...
By who? Sessions? :lol
ElNono
02-20-2017, 04:09 PM
By who? Sessions? :lol
There's plenty of Congress-critters that hate Donny with a passion and that's from his own party. But you need a smoking gun for this shit.
Realistically, no indictment = no case = nothing happens, nothing else really matters.
hater
02-20-2017, 04:11 PM
This is getting pizzagate levels of ridiculousness. Look, if there's some shit going on, indictments will start flying...
Ssshh Trump lawyer apparently is singing. Next watch these morons say Trump evaded taxes and will do time like al capone :lmao
clambake
02-20-2017, 04:15 PM
Ssshh Trump lawyer apparently is singing. Next watch these morons say Trump evaded taxes and will do time like al capone :lmao
well, if trump buys alcatraz, i'd say popcorn time.
djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 04:18 PM
There's plenty of Congress-critters that hate Donny with a passion and that's from his own party. But you need a smoking gun for this shit.
Realistically, no indictment = no case = nothing happens, nothing else really matters.
House Republicans don't want to touch trump. It's the Senate Republicans that hate Trump.
Splits
02-20-2017, 04:21 PM
There's plenty of Congress-critters that hate Donny with a passion and that's from his own party. But you need a smoking gun for this shit.
Realistically, no indictment = no case = nothing happens, nothing else really matters.
Congress can't indict.
boutons_deux
02-20-2017, 04:25 PM
There's plenty of Congress-critters that hate Donny with a passion and that's from his own party. But you need a smoking gun for this shit.
Realistically, no indictment = no case = nothing happens, nothing else really matters.
don't need smoking gun.
house write up articles of impeachment "Trash is an asshole", vote it up, send it to Senate
Senate votes it up, Trash is convicted, Pence is Pres
ElNono
02-20-2017, 05:01 PM
Congress can't indict.
Congress can certainly call up a special prosecutor and indict. Ask Billy.
djohn2oo8
02-20-2017, 07:49 PM
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boutons_deux
02-20-2017, 09:59 PM
This is getting pizzagate levels of ridiculousness. Look, if there's some shit going on, indictments will start flying...
how naive
investigations, indictments of politicians are political, not legal, same with anti-trust
when Trash is a political liability for the Repug establishment, they will go with the legal, and there's plenty Trash violations to play with
eg, after talking to Taiwan, he now supports One China to get rewarded with long-sought copyrights in China
impeachment/conviction is a legal charade covering a political act, eg, Clinton's impeachment
ElNono
02-21-2017, 12:53 AM
how naive
investigations, indictments of politicians are political, not legal, same with anti-trust
when Trash is a political liability for the Repug establishment, they will go with the legal, and there's plenty Trash violations to play with
eg, after talking to Taiwan, he now supports One China to get rewarded with long-sought copyrights in China
impeachment/conviction is a legal charade covering a political act, eg, Clinton's impeachment
I can point fingers in a multitude of directions, yell out loud, vent on Spurstalk, etc, and think that's going to change something. That's naive.
Unless there's some sort of indictment, nothing is going to happen. That's called being realistic. Trolling for the lol's is fine, tbh, but realistically no amount of twitter posts or YouTubes are going to come up with an indictment.
ElNono
02-21-2017, 12:54 AM
House Republicans don't want to touch trump. It's the Senate Republicans that hate Trump.
For now. Wait until the Freedom Caucus looks at his spending plan, then get back to me. I'll be glad to fess up if I'm wrong.
This is getting pizzagate levels of ridiculousness. Look, if there's some shit going on, indictments will start flying...
ROFL.
Pizzagate was nothing but a TSA wet dream. There was never ever anything substantive there.
Here we have quite a few inconisistencies with Flynn, Trump and his lawyer.
The fact that Flynn already admitted to lying to the VP is enough to say there is something off kilter here.
Though you're right that an indictment is highly unlikely and nothing else will happen. But this case has weight at least unlike pizzagate.
boutons_deux
02-21-2017, 08:06 AM
Unless there's some sort of indictment
indictment isn't needed. Fucking read the Constitution. House writes, passes the articles of impeachment, Senate votes to convict.
GAMEOVER
Then I think FBI will indict Trash for laundering Russian mob/oligarch $Ms. Will Pence pardon Trash, like Ford pardoned Tricky Dick?
All Schneiderman has to do is look at the market valuation vs INFLATED sales prices of properties that Trash sold to the Russians, then try to Follow The (laundered) Money out of Trash's org to wherever.
I bet Russians have laundered money through properties in other countries, like London, Paris, HK.
Remember they were stashing $Ms in a Cyprus bank, taken over by Wilbur fucking Ross, Trash's Commerce secy, so he could offer the Russians a deal instead of a bail-in haircut?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/12/trump-commerce-pick-wilbur-ross-financial-ties-russians
boutons_deux
02-21-2017, 08:40 AM
Watergate prosecutor: Trump knowledge of Russian election hacking would be an impeachable ‘criminal act’
Ben-Veniste told Matthews the difference between the two scandals is that “here you’ve got a foreign power, our adversary, the Russians, who are interfering … with our election, our electoral process.”
“So that’s big,” Ben-Veniste added. “The question is, was Mr. Trump or any of his close associates, somehow involved with the Russians during this course of conduct? And if so, then that would be huge.”
“If there was such activity, then this would be a criminal act that would be of the upmost seriousness to this country,” he said.
Comparing Nixon with Donald Trump, Dean said Nixon “worked behind the scenes” to undermine the press, adding “So far, Trump has been right out front” with his criticism of the media.
Ben-Veniste added there’s a difference between Trump and Nixon in terms of preparedness for the job, arguing Nixon was “eminently prepared” to be president of the United States.
“This is on-the-job training for President Trump, and one can only hope he utilizes the vast resources that are available to the President of the United States, and pick people who say ‘No’ to him,” Ben-Veniste said.
“This is what was Nixon’s downfall, he surrounded himself with people who catered to his dark side.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/watergate-prosecutor-trump-knowledge-of-russian-election-hacking-would-be-an-impeachable-criminal-act/
Accepting to work for Trash means one won't be "disloyal" since Trash values loyalty to himself as the supreme attribute.
I wonder if McMaster will really last after clashing with Bannon, Miller, Priebus, Gorka, Pompeo?
djohn2oo8
02-21-2017, 12:49 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-21-2017, 12:54 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-21-2017, 01:22 PM
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02-21-2017, 01:23 PM
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hater
02-21-2017, 02:01 PM
:lol these fake news are hilariously bad
boutons_deux
02-21-2017, 02:03 PM
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Trash and his band of Pootin venerators gonna defund RFE to nothing or kill it.
Pootin gonna kill this prosecutor.
djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:14 PM
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:lmao you cannot make this shit up
djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:16 PM
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Splits
02-23-2017, 07:17 PM
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:lmao you cannot make this shit up
:wow
Corrupt president, not clean
Thread
02-23-2017, 07:18 PM
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:lmao you cannot make this shit up
834908900356837376
FAKE NEWS
djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:23 PM
FAKE NEWS
Real news. And it is a violation.
TheSanityAnnex
02-23-2017, 07:25 PM
Real news. And it is a violation.
Oooooh a violation. What will come of this violation?
Splits
02-23-2017, 07:25 PM
FAKE NEWS
Real news
spurraider21
02-23-2017, 07:26 PM
INCONVENIENT NEWS
:rolleyes
Thread
02-23-2017, 07:30 PM
834909277357752321
:lmao you cannot make this shit up
834908900356837376
FAKE NEWS
Real news. And it is a violation.
Thread
02-23-2017, 07:31 PM
Real news
Fake news
Winehole23
02-23-2017, 07:32 PM
Oooooh a violation. What will come of this violation?It was exposed, that's bad enough.
Team Trump looks crooked for trying to get the FBI muscle the media and pour cold water on ongoing Congressional and FBI investigations of his presidential campaign.
spurraider21
02-23-2017, 07:35 PM
Oooooh a violation. What will come of this violation?What came of Hillary's violations?
djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:42 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:43 PM
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djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:45 PM
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:lmao Christ
TheSanityAnnex
02-23-2017, 07:50 PM
What came of Hillary's violations?
Still being investigated
Winehole23
02-23-2017, 07:52 PM
so is your boy Trump. let the chips fall where they may.
djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:53 PM
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TheSanityAnnex
02-23-2017, 07:53 PM
It was exposed, that's bad enough.
Team Trump looks crooked for trying to get the FBI muscle the media and pour cold water on ongoing Congressional and FBI investigations of his presidential campaign.
At this point it's just more unnamed "sources". Say it is true, what will really come of this being exposed?
Winehole23
02-23-2017, 07:54 PM
Trump looks like a crook, and let's face it, he is.
TheSanityAnnex
02-23-2017, 07:55 PM
so is your boy Trump. let the chips fall where they may.
Trump associates
Trump associates
You're a huge faggot.
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