Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[djohn2oo8]

830101089668235264

[boutons_deux]

The Trash/Flynn/Rexxon/Repug suck up to Pootin is so weird, it's scary, is actionable, need an all-court-press deep investigation.

Just waiting for Trash to lift sanctions on Pootin to hand Rexxon and Pootin their $500B deal.

[Reck]

This is what people voted for. Lies.

[monosylab1k]

This will be forgotten in 24 hours when the next shitstorm hits.

[boutons_deux]

This will be forgotten in 24 hours when the next shitstorm hits.

Trash will lay down a wall of covering fire of tweets.

[Blake]

:cry FAKE NEWS :cry

[baseline bum]

This will be forgotten in 24 hours when the next shitstorm hits.

Pretty much. His muslim ban gets all the press attention.

[SnakeBoy]

There is nothing wrong with him talking about sanctions and it was a busy time so it's not surprising he couldn't recall the details of what they talked about. Also sources say the general once bumped his head getting in his car 14 years ago so that provides a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why he did not recall the details of the conversation.

[clambake]

There is nothing wrong with him talking about sanctions and it was a busy time so it's not surprising he couldn't recall the details of what they talked about. Also sources say the general once bumped his head getting in his car 14 years ago so that provides a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why he did not recall the details of the conversation.

fake

[Bobby Peru]

This is what people voted for. Lies.

Hillary lost

[Blake]

:cheer Hillary lost :cheer

[Thread]

:cry FAKE NEWS :cry

[Blake]

:cheer FAKE NEWS :cheer

[Thread]

FAKE NEWS

[Blake]

FAKE NEWS

Except when it's not

[Thread]

Except when it's not

We'll both know, Blake. There won't be a shred of doubt.

And you know this, you're just seduced.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Terrible Week Gets Worse As Democrats Pounce On Russia Scandal Resurgence

Top Democrats are demanding that President Trump fire Michael Flynn immediately after Flynn was busted for possibly undermining Russian sanctions behind President Obama's back.

Top Democrats are demanding that President Trump fire Michael Flynn immediately after Flynn was busted for possibly undermining Russian sanctions behind President Obama’s back.This was not a one-time contact, either.

This contact began before the election and continued through the transition, according to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.04f0b73d3ccb) and the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/flynn-is-said-to-have-talked-to-russians-about-sanctions-before-trump-took-office.html). This means that Gen Flynn lied to Vice President Mike Pence, who then lied to the public.

The Logan Act tries to prohibit the undermining of our government by forbidding unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments that are in a dispute with the United States.

“It’s clear that concerns about General Flynn’s ties to Russia were well warranted.

It’s unacceptable that during the transition, General Flynn discussed lifting sanctions with Russia’s ambassador.

This action would be deeply troubling under any circumstances, but considering Russia’s effort to tip the election toward President Trump, the General’s actions are disqualifying.”Engel also pointed out, “Either General Flynn lied to the Administration or the Administration lied to the American people.”

“To make matters worse, the Administration has been misleading the public about this situation ever since.

Either General Flynn lied to the Administration or the Administration lied to the American people.”

The Trump administration’s blatant incompetency (and that’s the generous reading) pust the country in jeopardy.“

In any case, the Administration’s sloppy handling of such a serious issue creates a threat smack in the middle of our national security apparatus,” Engel charged.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/10/top-dem-tells-trump-immediately-fire-michael-flynn-ties-russia.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Benghazi! :lol

emails! :lol

crooked Hillary! :lol

[Thread]

Trump’s Terrible Week Gets Worse As Democrats Pounce On Russia Scandal Resurgence

Top Democrats are demanding that President Trump fire Michael Flynn immediately after Flynn was busted for possibly undermining Russian sanctions behind President Obama's back.

Top Democrats are demanding that President Trump fire Michael Flynn immediately after Flynn was busted for possibly undermining Russian sanctions behind President Obama’s back.This was not a one-time contact, either.

This contact began before the election and continued through the transition, according to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.04f0b73d3ccb) and the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/flynn-is-said-to-have-talked-to-russians-about-sanctions-before-trump-took-office.html). This means that Gen Flynn lied to Vice President Mike Pence, who then lied to the public.

The Logan Act tries to prohibit the undermining of our government by forbidding unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments that are in a dispute with the United States.

“It’s clear that concerns about General Flynn’s ties to Russia were well warranted.

It’s unacceptable that during the transition, General Flynn discussed lifting sanctions with Russia’s ambassador.

This action would be deeply troubling under any circumstances, but considering Russia’s effort to tip the election toward President Trump, the General’s actions are disqualifying.”Engel also pointed out, “Either General Flynn lied to the Administration or the Administration lied to the American people.”

“To make matters worse, the Administration has been misleading the public about this situation ever since.

Either General Flynn lied to the Administration or the Administration lied to the American people.”

The Trump administration’s blatant incompetency (and that’s the generous reading) pust the country in jeopardy.“

In any case, the Administration’s sloppy handling of such a serious issue creates a threat smack in the middle of our national security apparatus,” Engel charged.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/10/top-dem-tells-trump-immediately-fire-michael-flynn-ties-russia.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Benghazi! :lol

emails! :lol

crooked Hillary! :lol





FAKE NEWS

[DMC]

Oliver North.. American Hero.

[Blake]

We'll both know, Blake. There won't be a shred of doubt.

And you know this, you're just seduced.

You're blowing smoke

[Thread]

You're blowing smoke

And you're shoveling FAKE NEWS.

[Blake]

And you're shoveling FAKE NEWS.

Trump is seducing you into believing it is all, all of it that's negative, fake news.

You're kneeling before his every word.

[Thread]

Trump is seducing you into believing it is all, all of it that's negative, fake news.

You're kneeling before his every word.

I just will not buy "sources"---It's FAKE NEWS.

[Thread]

I just will not buy "sources"---It's FAKE NEWS.

ADDENDUM:::Rest assured, we will know when it's not FAKE NEWS. It'll be right there in front of us. Until then I will battle the scourge of FAKE NEWS with every fiber of my being.

This, THIS, I vow.

[Blake]

I just will not buy "sources"---It's FAKE NEWS.

Kneel

[Thread]

Kneel

:rolleyes

[Blake]

ADDENDUM:::Rest assured, we will know when it's not FAKE NEWS. It'll be right there in front of us. Until then I will battle the scourge of FAKE NEWS with every fiber of my being.

This, THIS, I vow.

It's in front of you. You're just too lazy to find it. You'd rather kneel.

[Thread]

It's in front of you. You're just too lazy to find it. You'd rather kneel.

It's FAKE NEWS. I ain't doin' FAKE NEWS. No way.

[Mitch]

This is what people voted for. Lies.

Voting for Clinton is double the lies, tbh :lol

No high ground for you, Reck

[Blake]

:rolleyes

Tell you what, you show where the Times (FAKE NEWS) was bad and was forced to apologize

827874208021639168

and we'll discuss further. If not, then the conclusion of you being nothing more than a kneeling cheerleader with no voice of your own stands.

[Blake]

It's FAKE NEWS. I ain't doin' FAKE NEWS. No way.

Hook line and kneeler

[Thread]

Hook line and kneeler

I am accepting the responsibility to guard this post for the presence of FAKE NEWS. It's an august position to which I am fully capable to accomplish.

[z0sa]

This is what people voted for. Lies.

Shall we bring up the many millions of dollars in speaking fees public servants Hillary and Bill "earned" from their Wall Street buddies behind closed doors? Her conspicuously planned state trips coincidentally being followed up with massive donations to her foundation? Her private e-mail server and its tens of thousands of deleted personal files? Her campaign's unabashed, widespread and purposeful collusion with both the DNC and mainstream media giants during the primaries and beyond?

Dont forget...
"Gold standard"
Defending racist lending tactics in public only months before the crash that annihilated some 40-50% of all black wealth
"Marriage is between one man and one woman"
Various slurs against jews especially
Acceptance of donations from conservative muslims who support honor killings, mandate sharia law and deny women even the most basic rights

Everyone who voted voted for lies. You love lies, bitch.

[boutons_deux]

‘Maybe he had a case of the dumbass’: Ret. Army Gen. slams Flynn for thinking he’s ‘above the law’Lt. Gen. Hertling confessed that it “pained” him to discuss Flynn because they served as officers together.
“He has shown a complete disrespect for the office of the president,” Hertling said.
He explained that as soldiers they have an obligation to lead with integrity and right now he sees an “integrity crisis.”
“The problem with Mike Flynn right now, I see it in three ways, either

he’s had an extreme case of the dumb ass,

he thinks he was above the law, or

there was an integrity violation,”

Hertling continued.

“All three of those things is something we don’t want in someone who’s working next to the most powerful man in the world.

And too, we have a president, you know, we say in the military, ‘An organization takes its lead from the top. And it becomes like the leader.’

We have seen a loose association with integrity from the entire administration, as you have seen tonight with Sean Spicer and Kellyanne Conway and now Mike Flynn. So, I think we have some problems in this area.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/maybe-he-had-a-case-of-the-dumbas-ret-army-gen-slams-flynn-for-thinking-hes-above-the-law/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[djohn2oo8]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mike-flynn-nsa-aide-trump-234923

:lmao holy shit

[Reck]

Voting for Clinton is double the lies, tbh :lol

No high ground for you, Reck

That doesn't even make sense.

You can say she's greedy and would have done this and that but what are you basing that voting for her is double the lies? Which lies?

[boutons_deux]

Mike Flynn gets thrown under a Russia-shaped bus

National Security Adviser Michael Flynn apparently assumed no one listens to phone calls with the Russian ambassador.

You may recall that National Security Adviser Mike Flynn had a much-ballyhooed phone call with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December, right around when then-President Barack Obama announced new sanctions against Russia. At the time, the Trump administration said Flynn had merely been wishing Kislyak a merry Christmas.

It turns out, shockingly, that was completely bogus. [Vox / Zack Beauchamp (http://newsletters.vox.com/t/d-l-hjtllkt-l-h/)]

The Washington Post reported Thursday night that Flynn and Kislyak had in fact not only discussed sanctions but had implied that they'd be rolled back under President Trump. In other words, Flynn, not yet a government official, was working with a foreign government to undermine existing US policy. [Washington Post / Greg Miller, Adam Entous, and Ellen Nakashima (http://newsletters.vox.com/t/d-l-hjtllkt-l-o/)]

(It's not clear why anyone thought this wasn't going to come to light. Flynn, a former and current intelligence officer, somehow appears to have believed no one would be monitoring an American's calls to the Russian ambassador.) [NYT / Matthew Rosenberg and Matt Apuzzo (http://newsletters.vox.com/t/d-l-hjtllkt-l-b/)]

Members of team Trump appear to be responding to the latest revelation by blaming each other. Aides for Mike Pence (who went on a TV interview tour to back up the "Christmas call" story) have sworn that Flynn lied to Pence, presumably to make sure the scandal doesn't hurt Pence as well. [Politico / Matthew Nussbaum and Kyle Cheney (http://newsletters.vox.com/t/d-l-hjtllkt-l-n/)]

Flynn, after all, is in a relatively weak position in the factionalized Trump White House — he's apparently fallen somewhat out of favor with the Steve Bannon faction. [NYT / Glenn Thrush and Maggie Haberman (http://newsletters.vox.com/t/d-l-hjtllkt-l-p/)]

No one in the Trump White House appears to be happy right now. No one appears to trust each other. And some believe it's only a matter of time before heads start to roll. [Politico / Alex Isenstadt, Kenneth P. Vogel, and Josh Dawsey (http://newsletters.vox.com/t/d-l-hjtllkt-l-x/)]

http://www.vox.com/2017/2/10/14583064/vox-sentences-mike-flynn-russian-ambassador-call

10 days to go in Trash's first month! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Six stunning aspects of the Flynn scandal

First,

Flynn appears to have repeatedly misled the public and his colleagues about his calls. Vice President Pence went out publicly to repeat Flynn’s defense. (“The emerging details contradict public statements by incoming senior administration officials including Mike Pence, then the vice president-elect.”) It’s not clear whether Flynn’s credibility is irreparably damaged, but allowing the vice president to put his own credibility in jeopardy is no small matter. After multiple, definitive denials, his claim of a faulty memory seems dubious.

Second,

this week a story also leaked that Trump called Flynn in the middle of the night (http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-called-mike-flynn-about-us-dollar-at-3-am-2017-2) to ask if the United States wanted a strong or weak dollar. How would that story have gotten out other than by Flynn relating it to others (either to the press directly or to colleagues who talked to the press)? At a time the White House is greatly alarmed by leaks, questions must surely be raised as to whether Flynn is sufficiently discreet.

Third,

a whole lot of people — “current and former U.S. officials” — don’t like him very much. (“Nine current and former officials, who were in senior positions at multiple agencies at the time of the calls, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.”) Frankly, they ratted him out, knowing this would severely damage his credibility. That doesn’t speak well of his long-term prospects in an administration rife with conflict and back-biting.

Fourth,

Flynn is still under investigation, which raises the question of how he is being allowed to perform his duties as national security adviser.

Fifth,

this episode will only heighten concerns about Flynn’s pro-Russian sensibilities. (“Like Trump, Flynn has shown an affinity for Russia that is at odds with the views of most of his military and intelligence peers. Flynn raised eyebrows in 2015 when he appeared in photographs seated next to Putin at a lavish party in Moscow for the Kremlin-controlled RT television network.”)

Sixth,

this is hardly a standalone incident when one considers the travel ban fiasco, press secretary Sean Spicer’s vitriolic interactions with the press, Trump’s errant tweets, and ongoing confusion over everything from the president’s support for the Gang of Eight (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/318795-white-house-trump-not-open-to-gang-of-eight-immigration-bill) (the White House had to deny he was in support after a meeting with Democratic senators) to his position on Obamacare repeal. One sees a stunning level of turmoil in a White House that has virtually no senior official with prior White House experience.

The fear among many Democrats and Republicans was that Cabinet officials would be cut out of the loop in this presidency; now the question is whether the White House staff is so dysfunctional as to require a shake-up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/02/10/six-stunning-aspects-of-the-flynn-scandal/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na&utm_term=.d5b14e4f2e54

so-called Pres Trash is so fucked, so very out of his very shallow kiddie pool :)

[Winehole23]

Flynn walking back his denial is newsworthy in and of itself. Trump Administration can't get it's story straight.

[boutons_deux]

Flynn gone

Spicer gone

...soon

[Thread]

Flynn gone

Spicer gone

...soon

That's what you said about DeVos. That's what you said about Sessions. That's what you said about Spicer.

They're all still there.

[TheSanityAnnex]

He's going to drop out of the race any day now

[Thread]

[[[DeploreThis (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-7fc4e07e5399594c62d6e2c4db4901f3/) • a day ago (http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-Flynn-Russia/2017/02/10/id/773000/#comment-3148526958)"A Trump administration official told The Associated Press..."
Who? Name them! Otherwise it's just BS!
"The Washington Post, citing several current and former U.S. officials..."
WHO?! Obozo's cabinet!? The most untrustworthy people ever to walk the earth? McCain and Gramnasty? WHO??!!
This "anonymous voices in the dark" BS has GOT TO STOP!!! The free press is nothing but a pack of partisan liars. They can't be trusted.]]]

[TheSanityAnnex]

Top Democrats are demanding that President Trump fire Michael Flynn immediately after Flynn was busted for possibly undermining Russian sanctions behind President Obama's back.:lol

[boutons_deux]

Reports: CIA Denies Security Clearance For Top Flynn Aide

A top aide picked by National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was rejected for a critical security clearance, effectively ending the aide's ability to serve in a position on the National Security Council, multiple outlets reported Saturday.

Robin Townley, Flynn's pick for the NSC's senior director for Africa, was denied for a "Sensitive Compartmented Information"

clearance, unnamed sources told Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mike-flynn-nsa-aide-trump-234923) and ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-flynn-aide-denied-security-clearance-cia-nsc/story?id=45427487). Without that clearance, Townley cannot serve on the NSC post, according to the reports.

It's reportedly been made even messier because the rejection was approved by CIA director Mike Pompeo.

Because Townley is a close ally of Flynn's, the reported rejection only served to deepen the tension between Flynn and others in the Trump administration and the intelligence community.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cia-denies-top-flynn-aide-clearance?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[Mitch]

That doesn't even make sense.

You can say she's greedy and would have done this and that but what are you basing that voting for her is double the lies? Which lies?

tbh i dont know what i meant about the double part :lol

Must have been zoned out while posting on my phone.

She's a liar tho, you can't deny that. "public and private position" "ill look into releasing my speeches" "i was basing it off abraham lincoln"

[Winehole23]

Circling wagons around the President: Chris Christie and Stephen Miller are on TV today pressuring Flynn to explain his changing story to Pence.

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s National Security Adviser Didn’t Know How to Call the National Guard

“Several staff members said that Mr. Flynn, who was a career Army officer, was not familiar with how to call up the National Guard in an emergency — for, say, a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina or the detonation of a dirty bomb in an American city.”

Not knowing how to call the National Guard up during an emergency even for a few minutes literally endangered all Americans.

It is something every administration should know before they walk in the door. Regular administrations do know this.

It’s something incoming administrations are briefed on during the transition.

But the Trump administration blew many of those transition briefings off.

Trump himself said he didn’t need to attend intelligence briefings because,

“You know, I’m, like, a smart person.”

Flynn was also surprised to learn that President Trump couldn’t just order up some foreign arms sales all by himself.

And it seems there was no one around who could explain this to him.

“Two people with direct access to the White House leadership said Mr. Flynn was surprised to learn that the State Department and Congress play a pivotal role in foreign arms sales and technology transfers.

So it was a rude discovery that Mr. Trump could not simply order the Pentagon to send more weapons to Saudi Arabia — which is clamoring to have an Obama administration ban on the sale of cluster bombs and precision-guided weapons lifted — or to deliver bigger weapons packages to the United Arab Emirates.”

Trump said he would surround himself with the best people.

He did not.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/13/trumps-national-security-adviser-call-national-guard.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

The Three Stooges administration, over and over and over.

[boutons_deux]

5 Disturbing New Revelations About Trump's Dysfunctional National Security Council

From a National Security advisor who knows how to reach Putin but doesn't know how to call the National Guard,

to botched executive orders and Make America Great again mugs showing up at meetings with foreign leaders, it is

"so far a very dysfunctional NSC,”

1. Foreign policy is being conducted on Twitter.

Much like the cabinet fumbling around for light switches and a door knob leading out of the Oval Office from last week's damning article,

National Security Council staff wake up in the dark. They "get up in the morning, read President Trump’s Twitter posts and struggle to make policy to fit them."

In other administrations they'd have non-social media data to operate on. In the reign of Trump,

Twitter is their only source of information about what the commander-in-chief is thinking.

The Times continues, "most are kept in the dark about what Mr. Trump tells foreign leaders in his phone calls." Because of all the leaks, many NSC staff are making their own communications encrypted (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/us/politics/national-security-council-turmoil.html?_r=1), for fear of being monitored for leaks.

2. Michael Flynn is a little too cozy with Russia, and Trump continues to play dumb.

National Security Advisor Michael Flynn is being investigated to determine whether he unlawfully discussed lifting President Obama's sanctions on Russia, and other potential areas of cooperation with the Russian government before Trump was in office. According to an earlier Times report (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/flynn-is-said-to-have-talked-to-russians-about-sanctions-before-trump-took-office.html), he indicated "that the Obama administration was Moscow’s adversary and that relations with Russia would change under Mr. Trump."

Trump, when asked about Flynn's Russia ties on Air Force One, suggested he was unware of the controversy. :lol

When aide Stephen Miller was asked about the connections on Meet the Press Sunday, he demurred, saying, "that is a question for the president," though he readily shared his views on a range of other topics. Meanwhile, according to the Times, "aides said over the weekend in Florida — where Mr. Flynn accompanied the president and Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe — that Mr. Trump was closely monitoring the reaction to Mr. Flynn’s conversations." In case readers needed additional nightmare fodder,

Flynn also apparently has no idea how to call the National Guard (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/us/politics/national-security-council-turmoil.html?_r=1) in the event of a Hurricane Katrina-like natural disaster or a terrorist attack in a major city.

3. Trump can't read a full policy memo, demands maps and graphs.

President Obama, the Times notes, preferred policy memos to be three-to-six pages.

Trump on the other hand, can only handle a single illustraged page.

"The president likes maps," one anonymous official told the New York Times. Sure, every boss wants concise memos, but one would hope the leader of the free world might have the patience for more than a page filled mostly with pictures.

4. The director of the CIA and the Secretary of Defense never saw many of Trump's executive orders.

Considering the most controversial executive order involved a supposed national security threat from immigrants, one would think the president's top advisors on these matters might need to be consulted, or at least in the loop. The lack of communciation was so bad that CIA director Michael Pompeo thought he had been booted from the NSC: "One order had to be amended after it was made public, to reassure Mr. Pompeo that he had a regular seat on the council." Another Pentagon official the Times spoke to only saw a draft order on prisoner treatment because it was leaked: "He called the White House to find out if it was real and said he had concerns but was not sure if he was authorized to make suggestions."

5. KT McFarland treats NSC staff meetings like Fox News.

McFarland, a Reagan veteran who most recently worked for Fox News, can't seem to shake the television tics.

She uses her television experience to force council members to make their points quickly, and, "she signals when to wrap up, several participants said."

She also repeatedly tells staff to Make America Great Again. Trump, who never met a branding opportunity he didn't love, apparently has enough mugs with the phrase that staff members bring them into meetings with foreign dignitaries (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/12/us/politics/national-security-council-turmoil.html?_r=1).

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/disaster-national-security-council

[clambake]

"hey, this flynn getting fired thing is nothing at all. for christs sakes, he had a show based on firing people."

[boutons_deux]

Justice Department warned Trump administration Flynn could be blackmailed by Russians

Former acting Attorney General Sally Yates (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/mondaynightmassacre-internet-scalds-trump-for-firing-god-damned-america-hero-sally-yates/), who was fired by Donald Trump (http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-fires-acting-ag-sally-yates-for-refusing-to-back-travel-ban/) last month, personally delivered a message to the president indicating National Security Advisor Michael Flynn misled administration officials about his conversation with the Russian ambassador to the United States, the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_flynn-0818pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.4639623cacb0)reports.

In her message, Yates also told the new president she believed Flynn to be potentially vulnerable to blackmail by Russian operatives, current and former U.S. officials told the Washington Post.

According to one of the officials, Yates’ concerns were shared by former CIA director John Brennan and former director of national intelligence James R. Clapper, who became concerned towards the end of the President Barack Obama’s administration, that “Flynn had put himself in a compromising position” with regards to Russia

Kellyanne Conway insisted Flynn enjoys the “full confidence of the president.”

In a brief statement about an hour later, Spicer instead Trump is still “evaluating the situation.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/justice-department-warned-trump-administration-flynn-could-be-blackmailed-by-russians-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[hater]

non issue. Flynn was a bad pick anyway. Trump will name Sean Hannity as Flynn replacement and call it a day :lmao

[Spurminator]

Aaaaand he has resigned. (Per CNN)

[DMX7]

Flynn Resigns... I knew he was talking about the sanctions with Russia. What the hell else would they have been talking about?

[Thread]

I hope it gets stopped right here.

[boutons_deux]

will Sessions go after him for treason?

[vy65]

Fake news?

[Thread]

Fake news?

I wish.

[spurraider21]

Aaaaand he has resigned. (Per CNN)FAKE NEWS

[vy65]

I wish.

Don't stop believin' hold on that feelin'

[boutons_deux]

NSA head compromised by Pootin! :lol

Trash always hires the best people :lol

Trash will going down, too.

Flynn was fired under Obama, now Flynn exposed as traitor

[pgardn]

"hey, this flynn getting fired thing is nothing at all. for christs sakes, he had a show based on firing people."

Damn him quitting.

Damn the torpedos as well, full ahead. Obamacare next up to solve. This will be the biggest bestest 4? Years eva...

[Splits]

I hope it gets stopped right here.

:lmao

[spurraider21]

"assembling one of the greatest cabinets ever"

[pgardn]

"assembling one of the greatest cabinets ever"

Everybody thinks so...

[Pelicans78]

It's only the beginning. My guess is Spicer is next.

[Splits]

Everybody thinks so...

Bigly

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgaD236VAV4

[benefactor]

http://9thcivic.com/gallery/albums/post/JC_Pop_Corn.gif

[vy65]

At what point do you call a mulligan on the 2016 election?

[ElNono]

been busy with work, tbh... so now Pizzagate still >>>>> than Russiagate or it's the other way around, tbh?

[Spurminator]

been busy with work, tbh... so now Pizzagate still >>>>> than Russiagate or it's the other way around, tbh?

831358458582671361

[pgardn]

been busy with work, tbh... so now Pizzagate still >>>>> than Russiagate or it's the other way around, tbh?

SA working furiously on a new flow chart as evidence mounts. There are rumors the two gates mentioned above are closely linked.

[Splits]

831358458582671361

lmao holy shit TSA get in here

[DMX7]

831358458582671361

Cold blooded shit.

[Winehole23]

Fake news?Killed Flynn. According to Thread.

[Thread]

Killed Flynn. According to Thread.

True. I thought it was FAKE NEWS. I was wrong.

[Winehole23]

Trump Administration did not withstand FAKE NEWS but folded like cheap patio furniture.

[Spurminator]

They're going to have to find a replacement who is cool with Steve Bannon's role in the NSC, or they'll probably have to remove Bannon.

[Winehole23]

so much for our white knight against fake news in this thread. Flynn went down.

[Winehole23]

They're going to have to find a replacement who is cool with Steve Bannon's role in the NSC, or they'll probably have to remove Bannon.Being a dickhead isn't a disqualification in this crew. Much the reverse.

Bannon hasn't done anything but whisper in the ear of the king. He's Iago, counseling the jealous Moor.

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgflip.com/1jlg8g.jpg

[pgardn]

There is nothing wrong with him talking about sanctions and it was a busy time so it's not surprising he couldn't recall the details of what they talked about. Also sources say the general once bumped his head getting in his car 14 years ago so that provides a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why he did not recall the details of the conversation.

Would ya believe __________________________

How about ____________________________

No, well then _________________________

[ElNono]

There is nothing wrong with him talking about sanctions and it was a busy time so it's not surprising he couldn't recall the details of what they talked about. Also sources say the general once bumped his head getting in his car 14 years ago so that provides a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why he did not recall the details of the conversation.

HE LIED AND PEOPLE DIED... no, wait, that was Shillary

[spurraider21]

HE LIED AND PEOPLE DIED... no, wait, that was Shillaryhe lied and russia spied imo

[mavsfan1000]

At what point do you call a mulligan on the 2016 election?
I call mulligan on this Trump pick. ;) Not the election.

[Warlord23]

At what point do you call a mulligan on the 2016 election?

Huh, are you tired of winning already?

[Warlord23]

I call mulligan on this Trump pick. ;) Not the election.
Flynn didn't resign because the Trump admin got to know about his communication with the Russians. He resigned because the matter became public. The Trump admin was fine with his behavior - they weren't fine with him getting caught.

[Thread]

Flynn didn't resign because the Trump admin got to know about his communication with the Russians. He resigned because the matter became public. The Trump admin was fine with his behavior - they weren't fine with him getting caught.

This

[boutons_deux]

Trash considering as out-like-Flynn replacement: convicted security breacher Petraeus! :lol

I'm sure Pootin has some fuck buddies for Petraeus.

and and and ....

Trump's most senior staff use a private email server

https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/25/trumps-most-senior-staff-use-a-private-email-server/

... so they are as "BAD" as Hillary and also violating Federal law about govt record keeping.

Hillary's email server! :lol

Benghazi! :lol

Lock her up! :lol

[boutons_deux]

Flynn for the WYNN!

We're so sick of WYNNing! :lol

[djohn2oo8]

So the Justice department warned the white house one month ago that Flynn could be subject to blackmail by the Russians and the WH did nothing about that info lol

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/michael-flynn-justice-department-warning/index.html

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/RusEmbUSA/status/831141976737214464/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

:lol

Where's the Beef?

[boutons_deux]

Brzezinski Unloads on Flynn Resignation and White House-Russian Connections: ‘Troubling on a Deep, Global Level’


“Why was the Vice President of the United States kept in the dark and allowed to go on television and lie and not have anybody go to him who knew in White House that he had been pushed out to lie?”

VP Mike Pence defended Flynn’s phone calls with Russia on the same day that President Barack Obama imposed harsh sanctions on the Kremlin;

“Who knew?

Was Mike Pence the only person in the White House kept in the dark?

Because you have to imagine the White House counsel had to know.

You gotta believe the President of the United States had to know.

Certainly the Justice Department knew.”

“It’s not nothing anymore,” said Brzezinski of the White House ties to Russia.

:lol no shit, It's ALWAYS been something, if Morning Joe hadn't been fellating Trash for months.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/brzezinski-unloads-on-flynn-resignation-and-white-house-russian-connections-troubling-on-a-deep-global-level/

[djohn2oo8]

831475993420390400

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

831481318164819969

[baseline bum]

831481318164819969

:lmao

[benefactor]

Trump was up 3-1, then LeMedia James took over. Game 7 shootaround is this morning.

[djohn2oo8]

831486707476393984

[djohn2oo8]

831492090639024129

:lmao Cully

[djohn2oo8]

831491354572292098

:rollin

[Fabbs]

831486707476393984
:lol She's like a 4 year old with her lying style.

[djohn2oo8]

831480662620250113

[baseline bum]

:lol She's like a 4 year old with her lying style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-7fzHy3aG0

[djohn2oo8]

831497368784736257

[Thread]

831497368784736257

Trump should be out there now in front of a microphone either to quit, or, to affirm his innocence. If it's the latter then to invite said (investigation(s)) to confirm that innocence.

[Fabbs]

Conway: "No Daddy I couldn't have eaten the cookies because the Cookie Man came in his spaceship and his spaceship was painted red and going around in circles and it spun and....."

[Splits]

Trump should be out there now in front of a microphone either to quit, or, to affirm his innocence. If it's the latter then to invite said (investigation(s)) to confirm that innocence.

Yeah. And while he's at it, he can describe the color of the hotel sheets after his Russian pee party.

:grim:

[Thread]

Yeah. And while he's at it, he can describe the color of the hotel sheets after his pee party.

:grim:

:rolleyes

[pgardn]

831486707476393984



Putting out fires with her face.

[Fabbs]

http://media.philly.com/images/1200*800/conways.jpg
Wow I'm pleasantly surprised she has a functional looking family. They even look happy.
Apparently it's all just a game to her and she plays it *well* if her endgame is just to pull a fat paycheck.

[Splits]

831493566446854144

Taking some time off from his #pizzagate investigation I see...

[Thread]

Putting out fires with her face.

And he should go out there now. Not Collins, not Conway. Nobody but Trump. Pick the worst spot/CNN-get in there and tell the truth.

[Sportcamper]

It is my uneducated understanding that the Senate now gets to investigate the matter & subpoena General Flynn. The real pressure will come from Republicans like Senator McCain. Just a few weeks & the hungry lions got their 1st major kill.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3880/14264103810_e51a3bd096.jpg

[Splits]

And he should go out there now. Not Collins, not Conway. Nobody but Trump. Pick the worst spot/CNN-get in there and tell the truth.

He's a pussy, a chickenshit. You know he ain't doin' this. He'll hide behind his liars, probably tweet something mundane, and wait for the next scandal to take over the news cycle.

I can tell you, I'll be updating my scalp thread with Kellyanne very soon. She's a goner.

[pgardn]

Trump should be out there now in front of a microphone either to quit, or, to affirm his innocence. If it's the latter then to invite said (investigation(s)) to confirm that innocence.

I seriously can't believe Trump and his lying escaped you until right now.

You need to investigate yourself.

You act shocked and surprised?
The public ain't buying it.
But you are.

[Thread]

I seriously can't believe Trump and his lying escaped you until right now.

You need to investigate yourself.

You act shocked and surprised?
The public ain't buying it.
But you are.

I'll wait for the truth. Until then there is everything else.

[pgardn]

I'll wait for the truth. Until then there is everything else.

Oh good gosh Trump is a blatant liar no matter how this turns out.
You just thought he was naive... or merely a salesman that lies and that's ok?

My country has now completely blown three weeks of very important work by having a leader who flys by the seat of his pants. Horrible planning, inept at negotiations, fkn Christ.... The separation of powers never gave such solace. Thank God we have an infrastructure that can withstand blatant stupidity.

[Splits]

:rolleyes

831510532318429184

There ya go. A man's man. Taking this scandal head on!

[Thread]

Oh good gosh Trump is a blatant liar no matter how this turns out.
You just thought he was naive... or merely a salesman that lies and that's ok?

My country has now completely blown three weeks of very important work by having a leader who flys by the seat of his pants. Horrible planning, inept at negotiations, fkn Christ.... The separation of powers never gave such solace. Thank God we have an infrastructure that can withstand blatant stupidity.

That's the "everything else" I recently cited.

[Thread]

831510532318429184

There ya go. A man's man. Taking this scandal head on!

Like I said:::I'll wait for the truth. Until then there is everything else.

[pgardn]

831510532318429184

There ya go. A man's man. Taking this scandal head on!

OMG...

" Yeah, we all knew but you guys were not supposed to..."

No Donald, not on something like this. No you damn fool.
This is really not good.
I suppose early better than late.
God help us.

[Splits]

OMG...

" Yeah, we all knew but you guys were not supposed to..."

No Donald, not on something like this. No you damn fool.
This is really not good.
I suppose early better than late.
God help us.

God help us while this buffoon is making a "deal on N.Korea".

We're so fucked.

[Splits]

Like I said:::I'll wait for the truth. Until then there is everything else.

The AG told him a month ago Flynn was lying. I don't know what other "truth" you're waiting for. He's complicit, and deflecting blame to the intel community for outing him.

[benefactor]

How nervous is ducks right now?:lol

[boutons_deux]

How nervous is ducks (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13) right now?:lol

Trump Pres, Hillary lose

[Splits]

Nobody natsec advisor not Flynn

[clambake]

"all you have managed to do is weaken a nation."

[hater]

Wow my sources tell me Trump supporters are tripling down and blaming Flynn resignation to liberal bullshit machinery :lmao

Not even a dent on Trump and his legions of followers :lol

[djohn2oo8]

More Info coming on Flynn-Russia connections and it won't be covered by executive privilege

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/michael-flynn-russia-ties-adam-schiff-234998

[elege]

"all you have managed to do is weaken a nation."

Russia's game plan all along. Use Trump to weaken US. We are so focused on watching/limiting Trump, we can't focus on taking care of the stuff we actually need to.

[djohn2oo8]

831550578056712192

[hater]

Of course Mcain Lydnsey and co of cumbuckets want to dethrone King Trump and have Pence there as their puppet while they start WW3

No surprises on that side tbqh. But once again they are shooting themselves on the foot which is composed of the legions of Trump believers out there.

Still no problem as Shillary is trying to run in 2020 so no chance of a regime change at all :lmao

[baseline bum]

Of course Mcain Lydnsey and co of cumbuckets want to dethrone King Trump and have Pence there as their puppet while they start WW3

No surprises on that side tbqh. But once again they are shooting themselves on the foot which is composed of the legions of Trump believers out there.

Still no problem as Shillary is trying to run in 2020 so no chance of a regime change at all :lmao

Trump was always supposed to be a Trojan horse for the mainstream GOP.

[boutons_deux]

PUTIN STARTING TO WONDER IF HIS PUPPETS ARE SMART ENOUGH TO PULL THIS OFF

MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin is “starting to get concerned” that the puppets he installed in the executive branch of the U.S. government “might not be up to the task at hand,” sources confirmed on Tuesday.

According to the sources, the flameout of the national-security adviser Michael Flynn was only the most recent event that has caused

Putin to wonder if the figureheads he propelled into office are “just too dim-witted” to serve the goals of the Russian Federation.

“When you choose a puppet, you’re looking for a sweet spot,”

one source close to Putin said.

“You want to choose someone who’s dumb enough to be manipulated,

but not so dumb that he can’t find the light switches.” :lol

“Increasingly, it looks like we missed that sweet spot,” the source said.

Putin is reportedly willing to have a “wait and see” attitude with his current puppets, but, if things do not improve markedly, he will not hesitate to “make some changes,” the source said.

“President Putin knew that this bunch didn’t have a lot of experience in government and that there were bound to be some growing pains,” the source said. “But geez.”

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/putin-starting-to-wonder-if-his-puppets-are-smart-enough-to-pull-this-o

[boutons_deux]

10 unanswered questions after Michael Flynn’s resignation


1. What, if anything, did Trump authorize Flynn to tell the Russians before his inauguration?

2. Why was Trump planning to stand by Flynn?

3. What did White House counsel Donald McGahn do after the then-acting attorney general notified him last month that Flynn was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail?

4. What is the status of the FBI investigation into possible contacts between Trump associates and Russia?

5. Will Spicer and Pence apologize for making false statements to the American people?

6. Will Flynn face prosecution under the Logan Act?

7. What will the Senate Intelligence Committee uncover about contacts Flynn and others affiliated with Trump had with Russia before the election?

8. Who replaces Flynn?

9. Who else leaves the White House because Flynn is gone?

10. Who exactly is in charge at the White House?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/02/14/daily-202-10-unanswered-questions-after-michael-flynn-s-resignation/58a25127e9b69b1406c75cb0/?utm_term=.6e8b1247a5fb&wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

[leemajors]

Lol spicer, blame it on doj

[boutons_deux]

House Intel Chair On Flynn: DC Is 'Rough Town For Honorable People' :lol


https://res.cloudinary.com/tpm/image/upload/c_fill,fl_keep_iptc,g_face,w_653,h_361/gfprkjdrvrxt1m3nctra.jpg

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), the chair of the House Intelligence Committee, on Tuesday morning downplayed Michael Flynn's resignation from his role as national security adviser to President Donald Trump.

"Michael Flynn served in the U.S. military for more than three decades. Washington, D.C. can be a rough town for honorable people, and Flynn—who has always been a soldier, not a politician—

deserves America’s gratitude and respect for dedicating so much of his life to strengthening our national security. :lol

I thank him for his many years of distinguished service,"


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/697549062103547904/s4Uq3S2u_normal.jpgManu Raju (https://twitter.com/mkraju)
(https://twitter.com/mkraju)✔@mkraju (https://twitter.com/mkraju)

Rep. Devin Nunes says the Intelligence Committee won't look into discussions between Trump and Flynn, citing executive privilege


Tom LoBianco (https://twitter.com/tomlobianco)
(https://twitter.com/tomlobianco)✔@tomlobianco (https://twitter.com/tomlobianco)

House intel chair @DevinNunes (https://twitter.com/DevinNunes) says he wants answers from FBI on leak of transcripts that led to #flynnresignation (https://twitter.com/hashtag/flynnresignation?src=hash)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/devin-nunes-flynn-resignation?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[boutons_deux]

Key Republicans who held dozens of Benghazi hearings now eager to sweep Flynn scandal under the rug

Reporter Jamie Dupress notes that Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R – UT), who is the chairman of the United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, told reporters on Tuesday that he doesn’t see any further need for a probe of Flynn, despite the fact that the White House kept him on as national security adviser for weeks after learning he might have been compromised by Russian spies.

“It’s taking care of itself at this point,” Chaffetz replied

doesn’t plan on probing the Flynn scandal because he believes the president could use executive privilege to block Congress from looking into it.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/key-republicans-who-held-dozens-of-benghazi-hearings-now-eager-to-sweep-flynn-scandal-under-the-rug/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Michael Flynn last July: “If I did a tenth of what [Hillary Clinton] did, I would be in jail” :lol


http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/14/14609618/michael-flynn-trump-hillary-clinton

[boutons_deux]

Jason Chaffetz: no need to probe Flynn and Russia, after all, it wasn't in Hillary's emails (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/14/1633599/-Jason-Chaffetz-no-need-to-probe-Flynn-and-Russia-after-all-it-wasn-t-in-Hillary-s-emails)

The chairman of the House Oversight and Government Affairs Committee wants you to know that everything is hunky-dory now that Mike Flynn has resigned. Crisis over. Moving on. He's not going to spend any of his committee's time figuring out what’s going on with the Russian mole in the Trump regime.

he's got more Clinton (http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/20/politics/chaffetz-clinton-investigation/) investigating to do, fulfilling his promise from last month.

"Just because there was a political election doesn't mean it goes away," he said of the investigation last week, saying that classified emails that surfaced on Clinton's server were "the largest breach of security in the history of the State Department."


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/02/14/1633599/-Jason-Chaffetz-no-need-to-probe-Flynn-and-Russia-after-all-it-wasn-t-in-Hillary-s-emails?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

[Reck]

They just keep digging that hole deeper. Spicer just took a dumb in this mess.

[Splits]

831577738012139520

lol tbh

[boutons_deux]

D E F L E C T I O N

Trump loved leaks before he hated them

Days after handling national security crisis in a Mar-a-Lago dining area, Trump decries “illegal leaks.”


In October, Trump proclaimed his love for leaks during a rally in Pennsylvania.

“I love Wikileaks,” Trump said, while the crowd chanted, “Lock her up.”

“It’s amazing how nothing is secret today when you talk about the Internet,” he added, before reading the contents of emails stolen from the Clinton campaign and leaked to Wikileaks.

Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump

The real story here is why are there so many illegal leaks coming out of Washington? Will these leaks be happening as I deal on N.Korea etc?
8:28 AM - 14 Feb 2017


That tweet comes just over a month after Trump compared intelligence leaks regarding Russian electoral interference to the behavior of officials in Nazi Germany.


Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump


Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me.Are we living in Nazi Germany?
6:48 AM - 11 Jan 2017


government officials may have another motivation to leak information problematic for Trump.

The intelligence community’s findings about Russian meddling sparked a feud with the then-president-elect, who in December released a statement questioning their conclusions and described intelligence officials as “the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.”

Trump acknowledged skipping intelligence briefings but argued he didn’t need them because he’s “a smart person.”

WikiLeaks (https://twitter.com/wikileaks)
(https://twitter.com/wikileaks)✔@wikileaks (https://twitter.com/wikileaks)

Trump's National Security Advisor Michael Flynn resigns after destabilization campaign by US spies, Democrats, press https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4nxw0SWEAAIIBF.jpg … (https://t.co/vKlX1Tqek1)
5:41 AM - 14 Feb 2017 (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/831468455413030912)

:lol

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-loved-leaks-before-he-hated-them-8df720204c7b#.g2oae1ij4

[boutons_deux]

Kremlin, Russian Lawmakers Downplay Flynn's Resignation

MOSCOW (AP) — The Kremlin on Tuesday played down the resignation of U.S. National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, a sign that Russia is already looking ahead to talks with the U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to improve the two nations' strained ties.

Flynn was often perceived as Donald Trump's key contact with Moscow

The Russian establishment has not harbored any illusions about the Trump administration's pro-Russia stance for some time now, said Alexei Makarkin at the Moscow-based Center for Political Technologies.

"This infatuation with Trump in Russia is over, and Flynn as a person who has contributed to this infatuation stopped being perceived as a figure who can have a real impact on the U.S. foreign policy,"

The nomination of Tillerson, former chief executive at ExxonMobil, showed to the Russians that it would be him, not Flynn, who would be doing the negotiating,

Russia's visibly muted reaction to Flynn's departure comes one day before Tillerson is holding his first meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

several senior Russian lawmakers took their disappointment over Flynn's resignation out on social media early Tuesday.

By early afternoon, some lawmakers began to retract their original indignant comments.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/world-news/kremlin-flynn-resignation?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Pootin's people know they have Trash by his tiny little balls, and the Rexxon Tillerson will give Pootin the $500B oil/gas deal.

Flynn? fuck him :lol

[Thread]

They just keep digging that hole deeper. Spicer just took a dumb in this mess.

It looked cleaner than a hound's tooth to me.

[Reck]

It looked cleaner than a hound's tooth to me.

It was full of contraction and puts Trump dead on the spotlight.

First being what Kellyanne Conway said was innacurate when she said Flynn resigned on his own. Now we know that Trump asked for his resignation..he got fired essentially.

Second is that Trump knew about this 3 weeks ago. Not just yesterday.

They digged the hole deeper Cully.

[Thread]

It was full of contraction and puts Trump dead on the spotlight.

First being what Kellyanne Conway said was innacurate when she said Flynn resigned on his own. Now we know that Trump asked for his resignation..he got fired essentially.

Second is that Trump knew about this 3 weeks ago. Not just yesterday.

They digged the hole deeper Cully.

You're flailing, Recky. And you look wonderful.

[hater]

831577738012139520

lol tbh

Beats putting Shitlery and Uma Abdelsalam and their Saudi sponsors tbqh

[Reck]

You're flailing, Recky. And you look wonderful.

Sad sight. Looks like you're in heavy denial.

[Thread]

Sad sight. Looks like you're in heavy denial.

lmemulatedao!!!

[mavsfan1000]

OMG...

" Yeah, we all knew but you guys were not supposed to..."

No Donald, not on something like this. No you damn fool.
This is really not good.
I suppose early better than late.
God help us.
You need help. All those media conspiracies you are falling for.

[leemajors]

Trump should be out there now in front of a microphone either to quit, or, to affirm his innocence. If it's the latter then to invite said (investigation(s)) to confirm that innocence.

what happened to this take?

[Splits]

what happened to this take?

morning changed to afternoon.

[Thread]

what happened to this take?

It's still there. And Trump's voice (Spicer) did not dissuade such investigations.

[Splits]

814919370711461890

[boutons_deux]

Rand Paul Says It Wouldn't Be 'Useful' To Probe Flynn's Calls With Ambassador

Paul said that Republicans will "never even get started" with major policy changes like repealing Obamacare if they are focused on investigating their colleagues.

"I just don't think it's useful to be doing investigation after investigation, particularly of your own party," Paul said. "I think it makes no sense." :lol HOLY SHIT

He said that President Donald Trump has apparently "handled the situation," unless there is further evidence of wrongdoing on
Flynn's part.

"Unless there's some kind of other evidence of malfeasance, this sounds like something that was internal White House politics," Paul said.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-says-not-useful-to-investigate-flynn-calls?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

RP is nothing a hard-core Repug.

[Thread]

Rand Paul Says It Wouldn't Be 'Useful' To Probe Flynn's Calls With Ambassador

Paul said that Republicans will "never even get started" with major policy changes like repealing Obamacare if they are focused on investigating their colleagues.

"I just don't think it's useful to be doing investigation after investigation, particularly of your own party," Paul said. "I think it makes no sense." :lol HOLY SHIT

He said that President Donald Trump has apparently "handled the situation," unless there is further evidence of wrongdoing on
Flynn's part.

"Unless there's some kind of other evidence of malfeasance, this sounds like something that was internal White House politics," Paul said.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-says-not-useful-to-investigate-flynn-calls?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

RP is nothing a hard-core Repug.





They need a probe to ferret out the criminals who paid & got paid for that classified material.

But, that's okay to do that, or, else there'd be an outcry.

[boutons_deux]

Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov refused to comment on Flynn's resignation, saying it's an internal matter for Trump's administration and

"none of our business." :lol :lol :lol :lol

Asked if Moscow still hopes for its relations with the U.S. to improve, he said it is "too early to say" since "Trump's team has not been shaped yet."

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/14/1633607/-Russian-Lawmakers-Howl-At-Loss-Of-Their-Pal-Flynn-Putin-Tells-Them-to-Shut-Up?detail=emailsc&link_id=5&can_id=4217e8eb109c68bd0c2e4143dd2d8c15&source=email-in-a-brutal-interview-kellyanne-conway-struggles-to-defend-trump-and-flynn-on-russia-scandal-2&email_referrer=in-a-brutal-interview-kellyanne-conway-struggles-to-defend-trump-and-flynn-on-russia-scandal-2&email_subject=in-a-brutal-interview-kellyanne-conway-struggles-to-defend-trump-and-flynn-on-russia-scandal

[djohn2oo8]

831632203159367685

[Reck]

I know Pence is a faggot on his own right but even him was kept out of the loop. :lol Trump's VP

[djohn2oo8]

831625623172943872

[clambake]

i picture it like this. flynn's in the office with his buddies and he's on the speakerphone to the russian...ron burgundy style.

[djohn2oo8]

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[boutons_deux]

Foxtrot Alpha Russia Deploys Banned Cruise Missiles While A Spy Ship Hangs Out Off The U.S.

http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/s2UK9XnlnQY/1792364072

[djohn2oo8]

I know Pence is a faggot on his own right but even him was kept out of the loop. :lol Trump's VP

I call horseshit on that. Even though it's in the news, no way Pence did not know.

[boutons_deux]

saying Pence was out of the Flynn loop sanitizes him as innocent victim, so he looks clean and Presidential when Trash goes down

[hater]

I call horseshit on that. Even though it's in the news, no way Pence did not know.

Pence is a stupid ass Dubya clone. He wont know shit even when Paul Ryan executes the nuclear code and nuclear holocaust comes raining down the East Coast corridor

[hater]

831646158271500289

And Shillary lied to the public, media and FBI about her email server for years. Aint nothing gona happen.

[hater]

831625623172943872

:lol anna chicarro :lol where was this greasy bitch when Shillary was on her hand and knees scrubbing her email server with a washcloth?

[Thread]

saying Pence was out of the loop sanitizes him as innocent victim, so he looks clean and Presidential when Trash goes down

Bouts is correct here.

[Thread]

Pence is a stupid ass Dubya clone. He wont know shit even when Paul Ryan executes the nuclear code and nuclear holocaust comes raining down the East Coast corridor

But, he's a regular guy, hate. Both are. He'd do until (we) got to another general election and could get the queue regulated again. Both sides of gov't would gush, self flagellate, hug in the middle of the ring and respectfully return to known corners and Media would stabilize. 60 odd million Trumpers would be sectioned and then handled with kid gloves. Only after would (we) be deemed (harmless)(again) and would then be punished by open ridicule and a taking of a portion of our end of the pie. Yes, a small section, but, in the public square for all to bear witness.

[ElNono]

Pence is a stupid ass Dubya clone. He wont know shit even when Paul Ryan executes the nuclear code and nuclear holocaust comes raining down the East Coast corridor

But he'll sure try to pray it away... :lol

[clambake]

uh oh.

flynn made 5 phone calls to the russians that day.

[boutons_deux]

Shep Smith shreds Trump: He wouldn’t have done anything about Flynn if the press hadn’t busted him

Fox News host Shep Smith harshly criticized President Donald Trump for hanging on to National Security Adviser Michael Flynn long after he became aware that Flynn had lied to Vice President Mike Pence.

“They want this to be about trust, ” Smith explained. “When you find out he lied to the president of the United States, that’s where rubber meets the road.

It does not meet the road when the Washington Post, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal all make it a front page story above the fold.

“Because, in this case, that’s what it took,” Smith continued. “It did not take the president, it took the headlines.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/shep-smith-shreds-trump-he-wouldnt-have-done-anything-about-flynn-if-the-press-hadnt-busted-him/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Spurminator]

InfoWars knows the real scoop...

831521997087727618

[hater]

But he'll sure try to pray it away... :lol

He will probably say the bombs hate us because we are exceptional and America will prevail. Of course he will say that from the confines of his fortress inside the rockies while the rest of us get bombed back to eat shit era

[boutons_deux]

Overseas, Flynn's resignation only adds to America's foreign policy turmoil (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/14/1633789/-Overseas-Flynn-s-resignation-only-adds-to-America-s-foreign-policy-turmoil)

Flynn’s resignation Monday night immediately sent European officials into a frenzy of attempting to determine what the change of the president’s top national security adviser would mean as the Atlantic alliance has already been struggling with understanding how the new president will approach a litany of complex European situations from the expansion of NATO to the war against ISIS to concerns about an expansionist Russia.

“I was hoping you could tell me what the fuck is going on over there,”

said one European Union intelligence official who, like the other officials contacted, declined to speak about such a diplomatically sensitive situation on the record.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/02/15/1633789/-Overseas-Flynn-s-resignation-only-adds-to-America-s-foreign-policy-turmoil?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

[Thread]

Overseas, Flynn's resignation only adds to America's foreign policy turmoil (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/2/14/1633789/-Overseas-Flynn-s-resignation-only-adds-to-America-s-foreign-policy-turmoil)

Flynn’s resignation Monday night immediately sent European officials into a frenzy of attempting to determine what the change of the president’s top national security adviser would mean as the Atlantic alliance has already been struggling with understanding how the new president will approach a litany of complex European situations from the expansion of NATO to the war against ISIS to concerns about an expansionist Russia.“

I was hoping you could tell me what the fuck is going on over there,”

[[[said one European Union intelligence official who, like the other officials contacted, declined to speak about such a diplomatically sensitive situation on the record.]]]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/02/15/1633789/-Overseas-Flynn-s-resignation-only-adds-to-America-s-foreign-policy-turmoil?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29

FAKE NEWS

[clambake]

He will probably say the bombs hate us because we are exceptional and America will prevail. Of course he will say that from the confines of his fortress inside the rockies while the rest of us get bombed back to eat shit era

ok shit thats funny

[ElNono]

:lmao the nerve these guys have to bitch about leaks now... that's basically what landed them in the WH

[hater]

:lmao the nerve these guys have to bitch about leaks now... that's basically what landed them in the WH

Sure. But one thing is leaking about a candidate by a swedish guy in the Ecuadorian embassy in london and the other is basically US intelligence agencies conspiring vs the President

[Thread]

Sure. But one thing is leaking about a candidate by a swedish guy in the Ecuadorian embassy in london and the other is basically US intelligence agencies conspiring vs the President

That's a coup attempt, pure and simple.

[ElNono]

Sure. But one thing is leaking about a candidate by a swedish guy in the Ecuadorian embassy in london and the other is basically US intelligence agencies conspiring vs the President

Talking 'bout that, nigga been quiet, tbh....

[Thread]

That's a coup attempt, pure and simple.

It's okay this time, like it was okay to drag Donald Sterling out into the street and lynch him over a private conversation in his home. "Just this once, we promise never to do it again. His constitutional rights can't cost more than $2 billion. + he's real old."

Same with Trump:::"just this one time we're gonna do it. Well, maybe twice if you count JFK's brains all over that Lincoln. But, that's it. Just twice and then we'll have the queue synchronized again. Uh,,,,,,,,,whew. + Trump already has $2 billion. + he's getting close to being real old."

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16711660_1189950274387610_3633390220728600742_n.jp g?oh=4a48f81e43fb01f72fd83c59d90ac66f&oe=5941B80B

[djohn2oo8]

831690694146289666

[Reck]

831690694146289666

Holy shit. Just when you thought the train was done wrecking. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

831691243537178624

[Spurminator]

A most unsurprising development, if true

[djohn2oo8]

Holy shit. Just when you thought the train was done wrecking. :lol

BREAKING News all on tv :lol

[hater]

A most unsurprising development, if true

Yup especially to the millions of Trump fanatics. They could care less as long as Obamacare is 6 feet under.

[Spurminator]

They could care less as long as Obamacare is 6 feet under.

You're not wrong. But that's starting to look less and less likely by the day.

[ducks]

New York Times lies

[djohn2oo8]

831693274905616385

[djohn2oo8]

831694133097951233

[Reck]

831693274905616385

I wanna see those phone records though. Unfortunately this is just conjecture.

[Thread]

I wanna see those phone records though. Unfortunately this is just conjecture.

Let's hope so.

[ElNono]

New York Times lies

NYT not fake news, Flynn not counselor

[djohn2oo8]

I wanna see those phone records though. Unfortunately this is just conjecture.

Everything will come out

[clambake]

NYT not fake news, Flynn not counselor

lol

[djohn2oo8]

831702729466736641

[mavsfan1000]

More fake news. The left are a bunch of liars.

[Adam Lambert]

More fake news. The left are a bunch of liars.

times news not trump

[djohn2oo8]

More fake news. The left are a bunch of liars.

831707624529747968

[benefactor]

New York Times lies
Sup ducks? You ready to watch your man get long dicked by the media?

[TheSanityAnnex]

America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying.


The United States is much better off without Michael Flynn serving as national security adviser. But no one should be cheering the way he was brought down.


The whole episode is evidence of the precipitous and ongoing collapse of America's democratic institutions — not a sign of their resiliency. Flynn's ouster was a soft coup (or political assassination (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com)) engineered by anonymous intelligence community bureaucrats. The results might be salutary, but this isn't the way a liberal democracy is supposed to function.


Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. "Finally," they say, "someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!" It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.a12b79f7b300) the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.


But no matter what Flynn did, it is simply not the role of the deep state to target a man working in one of the political branches of the government by dishing to reporters about information it has gathered clandestinely. It is the role of elected members of Congress to conduct public investigations of alleged wrongdoing by public officials.


What if Congress won't act? What if both the Senate and the House of Representatives are held by the same party as the president and members of both chambers are reluctant to cross a newly elected head of the executive branch who enjoys overwhelming approval of his party's voters? In such a situation — our situation — shouldn't we hope the deep state will rise up to act responsibly to take down a member of the administration who may have broken the law?


The answer is an unequivocal no.


In a liberal democracy, how things happen is often as important as what happens. Procedures matter. So do rules and public accountability. The chaotic, dysfunctional Trump White House is placing the entire system under enormous strain. That's bad. But the answer isn't to counter it with equally irregular acts of sabotage — or with a disinformation campaign waged by nameless civil servants toiling away in the surveillance state.

As Eli Lake of Bloomberg News put it in an important article (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com) following Flynn's resignation,
Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do. [Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com)]


Those cheering the deep state torpedoing of Flynn are saying, in effect, that a police state is perfectly fine so long as it helps to bring down Trump.





It is the role of Congress to investigate the president and those who work for him. If Congress resists doing its duty, out of a mixture of self-interest and cowardice, the American people have no choice but to try and hold the government's feet to the fire, demanding action with phone calls, protests, and, ultimately, votes. That is a democratic response to the failure of democracy.
Sitting back and letting shadowy, unaccountable agents of espionage do the job for us simply isn't an acceptable alternative.
Down that path lies the end of democracy in America.



President Trump was roundly mocked among liberals for that tweet. But he is, in many ways, correct. These leaks are an enormous problem. And in a less polarized context, they would be recognized immediately for what they clearly are: an effort to manipulate public opinion for the sake of achieving a desired political outcome. It's weaponized spin.


This doesn't mean the outcome was wrong. I have no interest in defending Flynn, who appears to be an atrocious manager prone to favoring absurd conspiracy theories over more traditional forms of intelligence. He is just about the last person who should be giving the president advice about foreign policy. And for all I know, Flynn did exactly what the anonymous intelligence community leakers allege — promised the Russian ambassador during the transition that the incoming Trump administration would back off on sanctions proposed by the outgoing Obama administration.



http://theweek.com/articles/680068/americas-spies-anonymously-took-down-michael-flynn-that-deeply-worrying

[benefactor]

Deuce....I see you viewing...tell them to fix the that damn warning on this site. That shit is annoying.

[Thread]

America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying.


The United States is much better off without Michael Flynn serving as national security adviser. But no one should be cheering the way he was brought down.


The whole episode is evidence of the precipitous and ongoing collapse of America's democratic institutions — not a sign of their resiliency. Flynn's ouster was a soft coup (or political assassination (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com)) engineered by anonymous intelligence community bureaucrats. The results might be salutary, but this isn't the way a liberal democracy is supposed to function.


Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. "Finally," they say, "someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!" It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.a12b79f7b300) the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.


But no matter what Flynn did, it is simply not the role of the deep state to target a man working in one of the political branches of the government by dishing to reporters about information it has gathered clandestinely. It is the role of elected members of Congress to conduct public investigations of alleged wrongdoing by public officials.


What if Congress won't act? What if both the Senate and the House of Representatives are held by the same party as the president and members of both chambers are reluctant to cross a newly elected head of the executive branch who enjoys overwhelming approval of his party's voters? In such a situation — our situation — shouldn't we hope the deep state will rise up to act responsibly to take down a member of the administration who may have broken the law?


The answer is an unequivocal no.


In a liberal democracy, how things happen is often as important as what happens. Procedures matter. So do rules and public accountability. The chaotic, dysfunctional Trump White House is placing the entire system under enormous strain. That's bad. But the answer isn't to counter it with equally irregular acts of sabotage — or with a disinformation campaign waged by nameless civil servants toiling away in the surveillance state.

As Eli Lake of Bloomberg News put it in an important article (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com) following Flynn's resignation,
Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do. [Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com)]


Those cheering the deep state torpedoing of Flynn are saying, in effect, that a police state is perfectly fine so long as it helps to bring down Trump.





It is the role of Congress to investigate the president and those who work for him. If Congress resists doing its duty, out of a mixture of self-interest and cowardice, the American people have no choice but to try and hold the government's feet to the fire, demanding action with phone calls, protests, and, ultimately, votes. That is a democratic response to the failure of democracy.
Sitting back and letting shadowy, unaccountable agents of espionage do the job for us simply isn't an acceptable alternative.
Down that path lies the end of democracy in America.



President Trump was roundly mocked among liberals for that tweet. But he is, in many ways, correct. These leaks are an enormous problem. And in a less polarized context, they would be recognized immediately for what they clearly are: an effort to manipulate public opinion for the sake of achieving a desired political outcome. It's weaponized spin.


This doesn't mean the outcome was wrong. I have no interest in defending Flynn, who appears to be an atrocious manager prone to favoring absurd conspiracy theories over more traditional forms of intelligence. He is just about the last person who should be giving the president advice about foreign policy. And for all I know, Flynn did exactly what the anonymous intelligence community leakers allege — promised the Russian ambassador during the transition that the incoming Trump administration would back off on sanctions proposed by the outgoing Obama administration.



http://theweek.com/articles/680068/americas-spies-anonymously-took-down-michael-flynn-that-deeply-worrying

It's a bloodless coup attempt.

And they ain't fuckin' around.

[pgardn]

New York Times lies

Did they lie when they uncovered the Clinton Foundation problems?

[pgardn]

Sup ducks? You ready to watch your man get long dicked by the himself and his cronies ?

[pgardn]

It's a bloodless coup attempt.

And they ain't fuckin' around.

Flynn is an idiot and so is anyone else if they don't know the Russian ambassador to the US gets bugged. The Russians don't give a shit. They put cameras in the hotel room of almost any US citizen. They got sex tapes of foreign reporters their having sex with their wives. Hell I am probably taped sleeping by myself and snoring.

Compromat. Or whatever.

[Thread]

Flynn is an idiot and so is anyone else if they don't know the Russian ambassador to the US gets bugged. The Russians don't give a shit. They put cameras in the hotel room of almost any US citizen. They got sex tapes of foreign reporters their having sex with their wives. Hell I am probably taped sleeping by myself and snoring.

Compromat. Or whatever.

The leaks came from own gov't, garden. That information is classified. It's against the law to leak that stuff.

It's a coup attempt, just like in third word countries & shit holes.

[Reck]

America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying.


The United States is much better off without Michael Flynn serving as national security adviser. But no one should be cheering the way he was brought down.


The whole episode is evidence of the precipitous and ongoing collapse of America's democratic institutions — not a sign of their resiliency. Flynn's ouster was a soft coup (or political assassination (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com)) engineered by anonymous intelligence community bureaucrats. The results might be salutary, but this isn't the way a liberal democracy is supposed to function.


Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. "Finally," they say, "someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!" It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.a12b79f7b300) the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.


But no matter what Flynn did, it is simply not the role of the deep state to target a man working in one of the political branches of the government by dishing to reporters about information it has gathered clandestinely. It is the role of elected members of Congress to conduct public investigations of alleged wrongdoing by public officials.


What if Congress won't act? What if both the Senate and the House of Representatives are held by the same party as the president and members of both chambers are reluctant to cross a newly elected head of the executive branch who enjoys overwhelming approval of his party's voters? In such a situation — our situation — shouldn't we hope the deep state will rise up to act responsibly to take down a member of the administration who may have broken the law?


The answer is an unequivocal no.


In a liberal democracy, how things happen is often as important as what happens. Procedures matter. So do rules and public accountability. The chaotic, dysfunctional Trump White House is placing the entire system under enormous strain. That's bad. But the answer isn't to counter it with equally irregular acts of sabotage — or with a disinformation campaign waged by nameless civil servants toiling away in the surveillance state.

As Eli Lake of Bloomberg News put it in an important article (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com) following Flynn's resignation,
Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do. [Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_content=buffere4d72&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com)]


Those cheering the deep state torpedoing of Flynn are saying, in effect, that a police state is perfectly fine so long as it helps to bring down Trump.





It is the role of Congress to investigate the president and those who work for him. If Congress resists doing its duty, out of a mixture of self-interest and cowardice, the American people have no choice but to try and hold the government's feet to the fire, demanding action with phone calls, protests, and, ultimately, votes. That is a democratic response to the failure of democracy.
Sitting back and letting shadowy, unaccountable agents of espionage do the job for us simply isn't an acceptable alternative.
Down that path lies the end of democracy in America.



President Trump was roundly mocked among liberals for that tweet. But he is, in many ways, correct. These leaks are an enormous problem. And in a less polarized context, they would be recognized immediately for what they clearly are: an effort to manipulate public opinion for the sake of achieving a desired political outcome. It's weaponized spin.


This doesn't mean the outcome was wrong. I have no interest in defending Flynn, who appears to be an atrocious manager prone to favoring absurd conspiracy theories over more traditional forms of intelligence. He is just about the last person who should be giving the president advice about foreign policy. And for all I know, Flynn did exactly what the anonymous intelligence community leakers allege — promised the Russian ambassador during the transition that the incoming Trump administration would back off on sanctions proposed by the outgoing Obama administration.



http://theweek.com/articles/680068/americas-spies-anonymously-took-down-michael-flynn-that-deeply-worrying

Dont buy this weak sauce.

Did you know that all russian officials and agents within the US are subject to have their phone calls intercepted?

"The calls were picked up as part of routine electronic surveillance of Russian officials and agents in the United States, which is one of the FBI’s responsibilities, according to the U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss counterintelligence operations."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.15975516abad

There is nothing odd or new about this.

Also, I find this article laughable. Flynn was much of a theat than Bannon? An actual nutcase who has the ear of the president of the united states?

You would think those spies would be trying to get rid of bigger fishes.

[pgardn]

The leaks came from own gov't, garden. That information is classified. It's against the law to leak that stuff.

It's a coup attempt, just like in third word countries & shit holes.

Obamas White House leaked like a fckn collander.

Dont start changing the tune.
What is most disturbing is how many people knew about Flynn and were going to LET IT GO until it got leaked.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Flynn is an idiot and so is anyone else if they don't know the Russian ambassador to the US gets bugged. The Russians don't give a shit. They put cameras in the hotel room of almost any US citizen. They got sex tapes of foreign reporters their having sex with their wives. Hell I am probably taped sleeping by myself and snoring.

Compromat. Or whatever.
Do you find it troubling that US intelligence agents committed multiple felonies by leaking sensitive information to the press?

[Adam Lambert]

tsa thinks leaks are problematic now

lmfao

[TheSanityAnnex]

Dont buy this weak sauce.

Did you know that all russian officials and agents within the US are subject to have their phone calls intercepted?

"The calls were picked up as part of routine electronic surveillance of Russian officials and agents in the United States, which is one of the FBI’s responsibilities, according to the U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss counterintelligence operations."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.15975516abad

There is nothing odd or new about this.

Also, I find this article laughable. Flynn was much of a theat than Bannon? An actual nutcase who has the ear of the president of the united states?

You would think those spies would be trying to get rid of bigger fishes.

The article isn't about the intercepted phone calls but the agents who leaked them to the press. Unsurprisingly that point went right over your head.

[Reck]

Do you find it troubling that US intelligence agents committed multiple felonies by leaking sensitive information to the press?

Wouldn't be happening if Trump had control of his own staff.


tsa thinks leaks are problematic now

lmfao

Holy shit, this guy. :lmao

Spent a whole year pedalling Wikileak stuff but has a problem with a few leaks that actually shined a light to the corruption that goes on in politics that directly affects the American people. :lol

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Obamas White House leaked like a fckn collander.

Dont start changing the tune.
What is most disturbing is how many people knew about Flynn and were going to LET IT GO until it got leaked.

Because the tune has changed. An attempt to overthrow the U.S. Presidency is underway, garden. It's as plain as that.

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tsa thinks leaks are problematic now

lmfao
Faggot Lambert thinks leaks from Podesta's emails and leaks from the NSA to the press are comparable.

lmfao

[pgardn]

The article isn't about the intercepted phone calls but the agents who leaked them to the press. Unsurprisingly that point went right over your head.

We don't know exactly who leaked them as it's turning out that lots of people knew about the DOJ warning to Trump staff.

[clambake]

tsa thinks leaks are problematic now

lmfao

ha

[TheSanityAnnex]

Wouldn't be happening if Trump had control of his own staff.



Holy shit, this guy. :lmao

Spent a whole year pedalling Wikileak stuff but has a problem with a few leaks that actually shined a light to the corruption that goes on in politics that directly affects the American people. :lol
I'm not defending Flynn's actions at all, even though it's not much different than Obama telling Medvedev he'd have more flexibility to negotiate with Putin after the election.

And since you wanted to jump in I'll ask you the same

Do you find it troubling that US intelligence agents committed multiple felonies by leaking sensitive information to the press?

[TheSanityAnnex]

We don't know exactly who leaked them as it's turning out that lots of people knew about the DOJ warning to Trump staff.
Someone from the intelligence community leaked the information to the press, illegally. Is that a problem yes or no?

[clambake]

I'm not defending Flynn's actions at all, even though it's not much different than Obama telling Medvedev he'd have more flexibility to negotiate with Putin after the election.

And since you wanted to jump in I'll ask you the same

Do you find it troubling that US intelligence agents committed multiple felonies by leaking sensitive information to the press?

even though


thats delicious

[Adam Lambert]

Faggot Lambert thinks leaks from Podesta's emails and leaks from the NSA to the press are comparable.

lmfao

how are they not comparable? werent you the one insisting intelligence insiders were feeding info to 4chan and wikileaks the podesta stuff that whole time, 4chanityannex? you could barely contain your boner with each new leak!

but now its troubling

[boutons_deux]

Someone from the intelligence community leaked the information to the press, illegally. Is that a problem yes or no?

not at all. heroic patriotism

[Reck]

Do you find it troubling that US intelligence agents committed multiple felonies by leaking sensitive information to the press?

Nope. Not if is done for the benefit of the American people.

We'd be oblivious to any of this if these leaks hadn't come out. It's better to know than not know.

But you should be asking yourself that question. You had no problem with wikileaks. A leak is a leak regardless if its coming from a hacked email account or otherwise. If you're ok with one you're ok with both.

[Spurminator]

Someone from the intelligence community leaked the information to the press, illegally. Is that a problem yes or no?

Gotta side with Greenwald again on this one...


The officials leaking this information acted justifiably, despite the fact that they violated the law. That’s because the leaks revealed that a high government official, Gen. Flynn, blatantly lied to the public about a material matter — his conversations with Russian diplomats — and the public has the absolute right to know this.

This episode underscores a critical point: The mere fact that an act is illegal does not mean it is unjust or even deserving of punishment. Oftentimes, the most just acts are precisely the ones that the law prohibits.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14/the-leakers-who-exposed-gen-flynns-lie-committed-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

[clambake]

Nope. Not if is done for the benefit of the American people.

We'd be oblivious to any of this if these leaks hadn't come out. It's better to know than not know.

But you should be asking yourself that question. You had no problem with wikileaks. A leak is a leak regardless if its coming from a hacked email account or otherwise. If you're ok with one you're ok with both.

"all you did was weaken a country."

[pgardn]

Someone from the intelligence community leaked the information to the press, illegally. Is that a problem yes or no?

Again, We don't know this yet. I will wait.
The DOJ told a number of Trump people along with our president.
And I know there is no honor among that thieving bunch.

Do you find it disturbing that the president of the US decided to off his man ONLY AFTER the public was made aware?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Nope. Not if is done for the benefit of the American people.

We'd be oblivious to any of this if these leaks hadn't come out. It's better to know than not know.

But you should be asking yourself that question. You had no problem with wikileaks. A leak is a leak regardless if its coming from a hacked email account or otherwise. If you're ok with one you're ok with both.
I did not have a problem with Wikileaks as it wasn't the US intelligence community committing felonies and supplying them information.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Gotta side with Greenwald again on this one...



https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14/the-leakers-who-exposed-gen-flynns-lie-committed-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/
Never took you for a police state supporter.

I'll side with Linker on this one.

Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. "Finally," they say, "someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!" It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.a12b79f7b300) the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.


But no matter what Flynn did, it is simply not the role of the deep state to target a man working in one of the political branches of the government by dishing to reporters about information it has gathered clandestinely. It is the role of elected members of Congress to conduct public investigations of alleged wrongdoing by public officials.


What if Congress won't act? What if both the Senate and the House of Representatives are held by the same party as the president and members of both chambers are reluctant to cross a newly elected head of the executive branch who enjoys overwhelming approval of his party's voters? In such a situation — our situation — shouldn't we hope the deep state will rise up to act responsibly to take down a member of the administration who may have broken the law?


The answer is an unequivocal no.

[Th'Pusher]

The article isn't about the intercepted phone calls but the agents who leaked them to the press. Unsurprisingly that point went right over your head.

Were the leaks doctored? Yes or no?

[pgardn]

We don't know who leaked this for Christ sakes. The DOJ briefed a number of people along with Trump.

[pgardn]

Again, We don't know this yet. I will wait.
The DOJ told a number of Trump people along with our president.
And I know there is no honor among that thieving bunch.

Do you find it disturbing that the president of the US decided to off his man ONLY AFTER the public was made aware?

[Spurminator]

Never took you for a police state supporter.

I'll side with Linker on this one.

Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. "Finally," they say, "someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!" It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.a12b79f7b300) the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.

But no matter what Flynn did, it is simply not the role of the deep state to target a man working in one of the political branches of the government by dishing to reporters about information it has gathered clandestinely. It is the role of elected members of Congress to conduct public investigations of alleged wrongdoing by public officials.

What if Congress won't act? What if both the Senate and the House of Representatives are held by the same party as the president and members of both chambers are reluctant to cross a newly elected head of the executive branch who enjoys overwhelming approval of his party's voters? In such a situation — our situation — shouldn't we hope the deep state will rise up to act responsibly to take down a member of the administration who may have broken the law?

The answer is an unequivocal no.



Well sure, it sounds worse if we assume it's some kind of nefarious "deep state" but there's a huge gray area between that and whistleblowers.

I want whistleblowers on the inside. Especially when their leadership has shown an overt disregard for truth.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Again, We don't know this yet. I will wait.
The DOJ told a number of Trump people along with our president.
And I know there is no honor among that thieving bunch.

Do you find it disturbing that the president of the US decided to off his man ONLY AFTER the public was made aware?
The public was aware weeks ago.

When you find out the intelligence community leaked the information to the press, illegally. Is that a problem yes or no? And if you think it is a problem which problem is bigger, Flynn talking to the Russian ambassador much like Obama did with Medvedev 2012 or the the US intelligence agency leaking to the press?

[Spurminator]

which problem is bigger, Flynn talking to the Russian ambassador much like Obama did with Medvedev 2012 or the the US intelligence agency leaking to the press?

Ask Trump, he fired Flynn over it. The Press didn't fire him.

[pgardn]

The public was aware weeks ago.

When you find out the intelligence community leaked the information to the press, illegally. Is that a problem yes or no? And if you think it is a problem which problem is bigger, Flynn talking to the Russian ambassador much like Obama did with Medvedev 2012 or the the US intelligence agency leaking to the press?

You are completely boffoed. What was Obama in 2012?

What was Flynn BEFORE Trump was elected?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Were the leaks doctored? Yes or no?No. And the FBI found no wrong doing with the content. Flynn wasn't asked to resign for the content of his calls.

"The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-pick-for-national-security-adviser-brings-experience-and-controversy/2016/11/17/0962eb88-ad08-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html?utm_term=.3f324852ddc3) — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government, U.S. officials said"

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/315793-fbi-found-no-wrongdoing-in-flynns-calls-with-russian

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No. And the FBI found no wrong doing with the content. Flynn wasn't asked to resign for the content of his calls.

"The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-pick-for-national-security-adviser-brings-experience-and-controversy/2016/11/17/0962eb88-ad08-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html?utm_term=.3f324852ddc3) — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government, U.S. officials said"

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/315793-fbi-found-no-wrongdoing-in-flynns-calls-with-russian

This.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You are completely boffoed. What was Obama in 2012?

What was Flynn BEFORE Trump was elected?
Do you think Flynn is the first NSA to contact other countries before his President is sworn in? He wasn't asked to resign for making calls to the Russian ambassador, he resigned because he was caught lying about it.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Ask Trump, he fired Flynn over it. The Press didn't fire him.
You didn't answer the question. Flynn should have been fired, and the leakers will be caught and charged as well.

[Th'Pusher]

No. And the FBI found no wrong doing with the content. Flynn wasn't asked to resign for the content of his calls.

"The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-pick-for-national-security-adviser-brings-experience-and-controversy/2016/11/17/0962eb88-ad08-11e6-8b45-f8e493f06fcd_story.html?utm_term=.3f324852ddc3) — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government, U.S. officials said"

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/intelligence/315793-fbi-found-no-wrongdoing-in-flynns-calls-with-russian

Do you believe there should be independent investigations into Flynn's ties to the Russian Government?

[Th'Pusher]

Do you think Flynn is the first NSA to contact other countries before his President is sworn in? He wasn't asked to resign for making calls to the Russian ambassador, he resigned because he was caught lying about it.

He was actively undermining US foreign policy before assuming office. Is that a problem in your opinion, Yes or no?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Do you believe there should be independent investigations into Flynn's ties to the Russian Government?
Yes, even after the FBI investigated and said there was no wrong doing. Flynn won't be charged with anything criminal under the Logan act, has anyone in the history of the laws inception ever been charged? I want there to be investigation into Flynn so the leakers are exposed and charged accordingly.

[TheSanityAnnex]

He was actively undermining US foreign policy before assuming office. Is that a problem in your opinion, Yes or no?
What did he actually say to undermine US foreign policy, provide a direct quote.

[pgardn]

Do you think Flynn is the first NSA to contact other countries before his President is sworn in? He wasn't asked to resign for making calls to the Russian ambassador, he resigned because he was caught lying about it.

Talking to the Russian ambassador about a sitting president's sanctions? It's not about talking, it's the content. Why should Flynn lie, it's not illegal to just talk like you stated? Why lie?
This is not a problem? An ex general who may have a job in the WH talking to the Russians about a sitting presidents plans... I guess it's not illegal so it's fine?

Trump should do what other presidents have done and succeeded at. Trump should have gone to the editors in chief and owners of said papers and told them it was a matter of National security that they not release this stuff now that he is president. Shit. National Security. People's livelihood is on the line. Surely the press would relent.

I wonder why Trump did not plead his case to the press... hmmmm...