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FkLA
02-10-2017, 09:06 PM
Not as far as dominance goes (atleast not yet) but as far as their game goes. He's what the media always wanted Kirby to be. Kawhi not only has the moves but the efficiency as well, tbh.

:claw

Bynumite
02-10-2017, 10:43 PM
He will turn into Kiwi Pippen come playoff time. Just like last season.

lefty
02-10-2017, 11:03 PM
He will turn into Kiwi Pippen come playoff time. Just like last season.

As long as he doesn't turn into Tony Choker tbh

AchillesHeel
02-11-2017, 01:36 AM
:lol told y'all this damn near 3 years ago and people doubted me, tbh..

Double-Up
02-11-2017, 10:21 AM
Wow, talk about an overstatement...but if you're talking about baseball you might be on to something there.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 10:39 AM
Wow, talk about an overstatement...but if you're talking about baseball you might be on to something there.
:lol

Killakobe81
02-11-2017, 10:40 AM
Not as far as dominance goes (atleast not yet) but as far as their game goes. He's what the media always wanted Kirby to be. Kawhi not only has the moves but the efficiency as well, tbh.

:claw

Only took some off season work with Achilles to turn Kiwi in to Mini MJ? Good, to know ...

Killakobe81
02-11-2017, 10:42 AM
I'm kidding ...heard that was false before yall get your panties moist ...

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 10:46 AM
Only took some off season work with Achilles to turn Kiwi in to Mini MJ? Good, to know ...
these niggas are silly

apalisoc_9
02-11-2017, 11:10 AM
Rocket delusions :lmao
Fruaden System player.
Not even a top 5 player :lmao
Will lose MVP to KawhiGod pr WestGod again :lmao

ambchang
02-11-2017, 01:07 PM
Only took some off season work with Achilles to turn Kiwi in to Mini MJ? Good, to know ...
The one that never happened and the one Kobe try to take credit for?

ambchang
02-11-2017, 01:07 PM
Kwahis dad still around?

Killakobe81
02-11-2017, 01:22 PM
The one that never happened and the one Kobe try to take credit for?

Like I said ...:rollin

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 01:28 PM
Rocket delusions :lmao
Fruaden System player.
Not even a top 5 player :lmao
Will lose MVP to KawhiGod pr WestGod again :lmao
how many seasons did it take Kawhi to put up more than 4 thirty point games in a season? System aka player

apalisoc_9
02-11-2017, 01:33 PM
Why would I even compare KawhiGod to a Harden..not evem in the same level. :lmao

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 01:36 PM
Why would I even compare KawhiGod to a Harden..not evem in the same level. :lmao
You are right. Seeing as how Harden has to do more with less. Kawhi has the second best bench in the NBA lol

apalisoc_9
02-11-2017, 01:41 PM
You are right. Seeing as how Harden has to do more with less. Kawhi has the second best bench in the NBA lol

:lmao

Spewing baseless media narratives :

But Gordon and Anderson sucks...but harden teamates sucks :lmao

System stat padder..Harden on his way to become the melo of his generation ..A player that would people eventually forget about. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 01:51 PM
:lmao

Spewing baseless media narratives :

But Gordon and Anderson sucks...but harden teamates sucks :lmao

System stat padder..Harden on his way to become the melo of his generation ..A player that would people eventually forget about. :lol

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/17/7/diffeff/1-1

Kawhi's bench is second best
They grab more rebounds than anyone on the Rockets' bench
The Spurs' bench creates more assists than any other bench in the NBA, Harden's bench is 25th.
They create more steals than the Rockets' bench.
They have more blocks than the Rockets' bench
Opponents shoot worse against the spurs bench than the Rockets' bench

Oh, and :lol relying on Gordon, he is already hurt

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:06 PM
these niggas are silly

Tell us more about how Lamarcus Aldridge is better than Kawhi, tbh. :lmao

apalisoc_9
02-11-2017, 02:10 PM
Tell us more about how Lamarcus Aldridge is better than Kawhi, tbh. :lmao

:lmao

Hardem the system player that people will forget in 5 years. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:11 PM
Tell us more about how Lamarcus Aldridge is better than Kawhi, tbh. :lmao
Tell us more about how Kawhi is better than LeBron :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:11 PM
:lmao

Hardem the system player that people will forget in 5 years. :lol
Who is Hardem?

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:16 PM
Tell us more about how Kawhi is better than LeBron :lol

Never said that, tbh. You, on the other hand, not only said that Aldridge is better than Kawhi, but used this ":lmao" smiley face for the notion of Kawhi being better than LA. It had been a long way since someone made such a desinformed, outdated comment, tbh. You thought it was 2012 or something. Thanks for the laughs bro. :lol

apalisoc_9
02-11-2017, 02:16 PM
Tell us more about how Kawhi is better than LeBron :lol

Even if that wasnt true right now. Kawhi has butchered.lebron in every matchup. You're so cute. :lmao

Harden will be forgtten. The rockets are garbage. Cute regular season story.

apalisoc_9
02-11-2017, 02:17 PM
Harden is not even a majority opinion in the top 5 players list. :lmao

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:18 PM
Even if that wasnt true right now. .
You agree it's not true. Period.

apalisoc_9
02-11-2017, 02:19 PM
You agree it's not true. Period.

Its a lot closer to your bitch ass claims you delusional rockets fan. Kawhi is on his way for another first teamer over Lebron or KD. Where is lamarcus Aldridge agai,

:lmao

spursistan
02-11-2017, 02:20 PM
did Djohn actually say "Aldridge > Kawhi" :lmao :lmao?

Clipper Nation
02-11-2017, 02:20 PM
Why are we comparing Kawhi, a basketball player, to Frauden, a refball player?

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:23 PM
Never said that, tbh. You, on the other hand, not only said that Aldridge is better than Kawhi, but used this ":lmao" smiley face for the notion of Kawhi being better than LA. It had been a long way since someone made such a desinformed, outdated comment, tbh. You thought it was 2012 or something. Thanks for the laughs bro. :lol

No, they wouldn't. Actually, it's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better than what they did last season (67 wins) and are doing this season (in pace to a very similar record) by switching Kawhi for any other SF. Even Durant or Lebron.

^^^

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:25 PM
did Djohn actually say "Aldridge > Kawhi" :lmao :lmao?


Updated for next season.

1-Lebron
2-Curry
3-Durant
4-Leonard
5-Davis
6-Paul
7-Westbrook
8-George
9-Harden
10-Aldridge/Draymond/Griffin


Wait, Leonard better than Davis, Paul, Westbrook, George, Harden, and Aldridge? :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:25 PM
did Djohn actually say "Aldridge > Kawhi" :lmao :lmao?

No, they wouldn't. Actually, it's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better than what they did last season (67 wins) and are doing this season (in pace to a very similar record) by switching Kawhi for any other SF. Even Durant or Lebron.

and spurfan said Kawhi is better than LeBron

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:25 PM
Kawhi better than LeBron :rollin

FkLA
02-11-2017, 02:28 PM
how many seasons did it take Kawhi to put up more than 4 thirty point games in a season? System aka player

lol wtf does 'system aka player' even mean

dumbjohn2oo8 at his best

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:29 PM
^^^

And how is that saying Leonard > Lebron? Do you have reading comprehension problems or something? :lol

I mean, I constantly update my "Current top 10" thread and I always put Lebron ahead of Kawhi. This guy just trying to shift the attention out of his retarded comments, but it doesn't work if you invent things sons. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:30 PM
lol wtf does 'system aka player' even mean

dumbjohn2oo8 at his best
you are too dumb to take a joke

Clipper Nation
02-11-2017, 02:31 PM
:lol Aldridge > Kawhi
:lol Dumbjohn's also probably one of those idiots who thinks Aldridge is better than Blake.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:31 PM
And how is that saying Leonard > Lebron? Do you have reading comprehension problems or something? :lol

I mean, I constantly update my "Current top 10" thread and I always put Lebron ahead of Kawhi. This guy just trying to shift the attention out of his retarded comments, but it doesn't work if you invent things sons. :lol

You said the Spurs wouldn't do as well with LeBron. That is saying Kawhi is better :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:32 PM
:lol Aldridge > Kawhi
:lol Dumbjohn's also probably one of those idiots who thinks Aldridge is better than Blake.
:lmao Kawhi better than LeBron
:lmao you don't have a problem with it because Spurfan said it
:lmao wearing Harlem's nuts as a chinstrap

Clipper Nation
02-11-2017, 02:33 PM
:lmao Kawhi better than LeBron
:lmao you don't have a problem with it because Spurfan said it
He's not better than LeBron, but he's still much closer to LeBron than Aldridge is to Kawhi :lmao

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:34 PM
You said the Spurs wouldn't do as well with LeBron. That is saying Kawhi is better :lol

Since when "it's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better..." is the same as "the Spurs wouldn't do as well"? :lol

And no, that isn't the same as saying Kawhi is better. So desperate to bring somebody down to his level. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:34 PM
He's not better than LeBron, but he's still much closer to LeBron
:lmao

FkLA
02-11-2017, 02:35 PM
you are too dumb to take a joke

System also known as player makes absolutely no sense, dumbshit. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:36 PM
Since when "it's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better..." is the same as "the Spurs wouldn't do as well"? :lol

And no, that isn't the same as saying Kawhi is better. So desperate to bring somebody down to his level. :lol
semantics. "It's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better even WITH LeBron". Yeah, that's not the same right? :lmao

Clipper Nation
02-11-2017, 02:36 PM
:lmao
:lmao Editing your own shit take out of the quote
:lmao "Aldridge > Kawhi"
:lmao A take so terrible, even you are ashamed of it
:lmao The basketball version of "offense first in OT"
:lmao Dumbj:lolhn

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:38 PM
:lmao Editing your own shit take out of the quote
:lmao "Aldridge > Kawhi"
:lmao A take so terrible, even you are ashamed of it
:lmao The basketball version of "offense first in OT"
:lmao Dumbj:lolhn
:lmao thinking Kawhi is even close to LeBron
:lmao He's not

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:44 PM
System also known as player makes absolutely no sense, dumbshit. :lol
Neither does "Kawhi is as close to MJ as we have seen", cumbelly. :lol

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:44 PM
semantics. "It's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better even WITH LeBron". Yeah, that's not the same right? :lmao

"It's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better" allows for the possibility of doing just as good, "the Spurs wouldn't do as well" doesn't. There's a big difference.

Anyway, how does that comment automatically mean "Kawhi > Lebron"? Do you seriously think that if you switched Kawhi for Lebron last season the Spurs would have done much better than 67 wins? Do you think life is so linear that the Spurs would have automatically won 70 something games just because Lebron is a better player than Kawhi? Are you really that limited? The Warriors switched Barnes for Durant and they aren't going to win as many games as last season.

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:46 PM
:lmao thinking Kawhi is even close to LeBron
:lmao He's not

Of course you are going to think that, you thought Kawhi wasn't better than Aldridge. :lol

I told you son, you should stay away from Kawhi related threads. You clearly have a missconception about the guy and therefore look like an idiot when talking about him, tbh.

ambchang
02-11-2017, 02:48 PM
Djohn2oo8 is a good brother but this is just being retarded.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:50 PM
Of course you are going to think that, you thought Kawhi wasn't better than Aldridge. :lol

I told you son, you should stay away from Kawhi related threads. You clearly have a missconception about the guy and therefore look like an idiot when talking about him, tbh.
Kawhi is not close to LeBron nor Mj. Only retarded spurfan would think that because no one else will.

You also said Manu was better than Dirk in their primes :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:51 PM
"It's hard to imagine the Spurs doing better" allows for the possibility of doing just as good, "the Spurs wouldn't do as well" doesn't. There's a big difference.

Anyway, how does that comment automatically mean "Kawhi > Lebron"? Do you seriously think that if you switched Kawhi for Lebron last season the Spurs would have done much better than 67 wins? Do you think life is so linear that the Spurs would have automatically won 70 something games just because Lebron is a better player than Kawhi? Are you really that limited? The Warriors switched Barnes for Durant and they aren't going to win as many games as last season.
It's really not hard to imagine because LeBron is the best player on the planet...

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:52 PM
Kawhi is not close to LeBron nor Mj. Only retarded spurfan would think that because no one else will.

You also said Manu was better than Dirk in their primes :lol

Another invented comment made by dumb posters that had no other way of defending themselves, tbh.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:52 PM
Djohn2oo8 is a good brother but this is just being retarded.
No. The semen cloud is just hilarious.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 02:54 PM
Another invented comment made by dumb posters that had no other way of defending themselves, tbh.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188180&highlight=manu+dirk

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:55 PM
It's really not hard to imagine because LeBron is the best player on the planet...

So you thought the Warriors were going to win like 80 games before this season?

Clipper Nation
02-11-2017, 02:56 PM
:lmao thinking Kawhi is even close to LeBron
:lmao He's not

:lol Can you read, faggot? I didn't say he was close to LeBron. I said he was closer to LeBron than Aldridge is to Kawhi. There's a difference.

DAF86
02-11-2017, 02:56 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188180&highlight=manu+dirk

Why do you post that thread like it proves anything? :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:00 PM
:lol Can you read, faggot? I didn't say he was close to LeBron. I said he was closer to LeBron than Aldridge is to Kawhi. There's a difference.
:lmao i know exactly what you said and no it still isn't closer. You said that so the original comment wouldn't seem so fucking stupid (which it is) about Kawhi being better.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:01 PM
Why do you post that thread like it proves anything? :lol
because it's hilarious

DAF86
02-11-2017, 03:02 PM
because it's hilarious

That was the idea, tbh.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:04 PM
That was the idea, tbh.
:lmao "sure"

DAF86
02-11-2017, 03:10 PM
Damn, this guy is trully one dumb mofo. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:20 PM
Damn, this guy is trully one dumb mofo. :lol
Spurfan

says Manu > Dirk
Kawhi > LeBron

and the title of this stupid ass thread from Kiwitard :lol

ambchang
02-11-2017, 03:22 PM
No. The semen cloud is just hilarious.

I don't see how lebron in place of kawhi will not make the Spurs any bettter = kawhi > lebron. The 07 Spurs probably won't win it all with amare in place of Bowen, doesn't mean Bowen > stat.

DAF86
02-11-2017, 03:22 PM
Keep lying to yourself son. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:26 PM
I don't see how lebron in place of kawhi will not make the Spurs any bettter = kawhi > lebron. The 07 Spurs probably won't win it all with amare in place of Bowen, doesn't mean Bowen > stat.
It saying the best player in the NBA would not make us better than Kawhi would. That is saying Kawhi is better. Oh and Amare was never the best player in the NBA. A top 5 player of all time in LeBron wouldn't make the spurs better..

DAF86
02-11-2017, 03:29 PM
It saying the best player in the NBA would not make us better than Kawhi would. That is saying Kawhi is better. Oh and Amare was never the best player in the NBA. A top 5 player of all time in LeBron wouldn't make the spurs better..

You should get back to school, tbh. :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:32 PM
You should get back to school, tbh. :lol

you are the one who made that dumbass assertion about it would be hard to imagine a top 5 player of all time doing better...

DAF86
02-11-2017, 03:33 PM
you are the one who made that dumbass assertion about it would be hard to imagine a top 5 player of all time doing better...

But you are the one with problems to interpret a simple sentences, tbh.

ambchang
02-11-2017, 03:36 PM
It saying the best player in the NBA would not make us better than Kawhi would. That is saying Kawhi is better. Oh and Amare was never the best player in the NBA. A top 5 player of all time in LeBron wouldn't make the spurs better..

It probably wouldn't make the Spurs much better last year tbh. Whether amare was the best player in the game is not the point. Amare was clearly a better player than Bowen, but without Bowen and with amare the Spurs likely don't win in 05 or 07.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:37 PM
But you are the one with problems to interpret a simple sentences, tbh.
oh is that why you got laughed at by multiple people in that thread for that assertion?

DAF86
02-11-2017, 03:38 PM
oh is that why you got laughed at by multiple people in that thread for that assertion?

What multiple people? Folks with the same problems as you? :lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:39 PM
It probably wouldn't make the Spurs much better last year tbh. Whether amare was the best player in the game is not the point. Amare was clearly a better player than Bowen, but without Bowen and with amare the Spurs likely don't win in 05 or 07.
But see you left room for them to be at least a little better. He left no room.

spurraider21
02-11-2017, 03:39 PM
djohn2oo8 bringing up old takes as if he didnt say parsons > kawhi

Robz4000
02-11-2017, 03:45 PM
djohn2oo8 bringing up old takes as if he didnt say parsons > kawhi

:lol forgot about det

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 03:58 PM
djohn2oo8 bringing up old takes as if he didnt say parsons > kawhi

During that time Kawhi hadn't developed his offensive game yet. So yes at the time Parsons was better, offensively.

Clipper Nation
02-11-2017, 04:37 PM
:lmao i know exactly what you said and no it still isn't closer.
:lol Yes, it is. Have you watched Aldridge play at any time in the last five years?


You said that so the original comment wouldn't seem so fucking stupid (which it is) about Kawhi being better.
I don't give a rat's ass about the original comment. Your Aldridge > Kawhi take is one of the dumbest in SpursTalk history, which is why you keep deflecting so hard whenever it's brought up.

ambchang
02-11-2017, 08:15 PM
But see you left room for them to be at least a little better. He left no room.

I'm actually saying the Spurs will be worse off despite amare clearly being the better player of the two.

LkrFan
02-11-2017, 09:55 PM
Wow, talk about an overstatement...but if you're talking about baseball you might be on to something there.

:lol

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 09:59 PM
:lol Yes, it is. Have you watched Aldridge play at any time in the last five years?


I don't give a rat's ass about the original comment. Your Aldridge > Kawhi take is one of the dumbest in SpursTalk history, which is why you keep deflecting so hard whenever it's brought up.

No. Kawhi is no where close near LeBron. Nor Mj. Two dumb fucking takes from Spurfan and a fake ass knock off wannabe spurfan. Neither LeBron nor MJ would get their assholes torn apart by Matt Barnes in a game 7

PopTheGOAT
02-11-2017, 10:05 PM
Lebron is the best. Kawhi, KD, WB, Curry, Harden can all argued as 2. Fans just gonna plug in their guy tbh. I know y'all are just spewing agenda but that's the truth

Killakobe81
02-11-2017, 10:43 PM
No. Kawhi is no where close near LeBron. Nor Mj. Two dumb fucking takes from Spurfan and a fake ass knock off wannabe spurfan. Neither LeBron nor MJ would get their assholes torn apart by Matt Barnes in a game 7

I love kiwi he is the no doubt most consistently great two way player ...
but the take Spurs wouldn't be better off with the all time great play making SF in NBA history is one of the dumbest takes in a forum known for them. I get that Amb and others are arguing about what Kiwi brings (better defense) and a great fit ...
But we talking about near his prime LeBron James.

djohn2oo8
02-11-2017, 10:48 PM
I love kiwi he is the no doubt most consistently great two way player ...
but the take Spurs wouldn't be better off with the all time great play making SF in NBA history is one of the dumbest takes in a forum known for them. I get that Amb and others are arguing about what Kiwi brings (better defense) and a great fit ...
But we talking about near his prime LeBron James.

This.

TDMVPDPOY
02-11-2017, 10:59 PM
i dunno about lebron vs kawhi

but ever since the finals loss, kawhi has improve his h2h record against lebron...hence they aren't even empty stats like compared other players who played against lebron but continue to loss games

Killakobe81
02-11-2017, 11:02 PM
i dunno about lebron vs kawhi

but ever since the finals loss, kawhi has improve his h2h record against lebron...hence they aren't even empty stats like compared other players who played against lebron but continue to loss games

Hecpmays him better than anyone but LeBron has to do more for Cavs on offense than Kiwi does with SAS

ambchang
02-12-2017, 07:04 AM
No. Kawhi is no where close near LeBron. Nor Mj. Two dumb fucking takes from Spurfan and a fake ass knock off wannabe spurfan. Neither LeBron nor MJ would get their assholes torn apart by Matt Barnes in a game 7
Lebron got shut out my an ancient Shawn Marion for an entire final series.

ambchang
02-12-2017, 07:08 AM
I love kiwi he is the no doubt most consistently great two way player ...
but the take Spurs wouldn't be better off with the all time great play making SF in NBA history is one of the dumbest takes in a forum known for them. I get that Amb and others are arguing about what Kiwi brings (better defense) and a great fit ...
But we talking about near his prime LeBron James.

That's the frustrating part, no one is arguing kawhi is better or anywhere as good as lebron, the argument is that the Spurs wouldn't have been better last year with lebron or KD instead of kawhi. I don't necessarily agree with it as I think lebron would have brought a championship to the Spurs last year but I can see the argument.

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 11:09 AM
That's the frustrating part, no one is arguing kawhi is better or anywhere as good as lebron, the argument is that the Spurs wouldn't have been better last year with lebron or KD instead of kawhi. I don't necessarily agree with it as I think lebron would have brought a championship to the Spurs last year but I can see the argument.
I understood all that. But you give pop LeBron and add him to TOSB version of Tim and rest of big 3 with Aldridge Green etc.
That's a championship...
Did people forget the games he put up down 3-1 in the Finals?
Smh

DAF86
02-12-2017, 03:28 PM
I love kiwi he is the no doubt most consistently great two way player ...
but the take Spurs wouldn't be better off with the all time great play making SF in NBA history is one of the dumbest takes in a forum known for them. I get that Amb and others are arguing about what Kiwi brings (better defense) and a great fit ...
But we talking about near his prime LeBron James.

So you think the Spurs would have done much better than 67 wins with Lebron instead of Kawhi?

FkLA
02-12-2017, 03:29 PM
I love kiwi he is the no doubt most consistently great two way player ...
but the take Spurs wouldn't be better off with the all time great play making SF in NBA history is one of the dumbest takes in a forum known for them. I get that Amb and others are arguing about what Kiwi brings (better defense) and a great fit ...
But we talking about near his prime LeBron James.

It's not dumb at all. The Spurs are elite as is. LeBron is undoubtedly the better player, but the offense would need to change drastically to allow him to have the ball in his hands the large majority of the time. The defense would see a drop off. It's not just plug and play.

The Spurs would still be elite with LeBron obviously, but when they're already winning 65 games a year with Kawhi as the guy there's not much more room to get better, tbh.

DAF86
02-12-2017, 03:32 PM
That's the frustrating part, no one is arguing kawhi is better or anywhere as good as lebron, the argument is that the Spurs wouldn't have been better last year with lebron or KD instead of kawhi. I don't necessarily agree with it as I think lebron would have brought a championship to the Spurs last year but I can see the argument.

The Spurs wouldn't have won the Championship with Lebron last year. Lebron needs three pt shooters around him, the Spurs had close to none. On top of that, Lebron had one of his worst 3pt shooting seasons last year, a lineup of Tony, Green, Lebron, Aldridge and Tim would have struggle a lot on offense.

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 05:31 PM
It's not dumb at all. The Spurs are elite as is. LeBron is undoubtedly the better player, but the offense would need to change drastically to allow him to have the ball in his hands the large majority of the time. The defense would see a drop off. It's not just plug and play.

The Spurs would still be elite with LeBron obviously, but when they're already winning 65 games a year with Kawhi as the guy there's not much more room to get better, tbh.

65 games does not equal championship or even making the Finals LeBron has been the best player in the Finals at least 5 of the last 7 years and a case can be made for 7 for 7 ...despite losing 3 of them.

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 05:32 PM
The Spurs wouldn't have won the Championship with Lebron last year. Lebron needs three pt shooters around him, the Spurs had close to none. On top of that, Lebron had one of his worst 3pt shooting seasons last year, a lineup of Tony, Green, Lebron, Aldridge and Tim would have struggle a lot on offense.

So LeBron and Pop couldn't adjust?
With LeBron feeding Patty, green for wide open 3s they don't make more shots?

DAF86
02-12-2017, 05:34 PM
So LeBron and Pop couldn't adjust?
With LeBron feeding Patty, green for wide open 3s they don't make more shots?

No.

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 05:35 PM
How many times has the definitive best player and best Coach with another legit all star as the #2 (Aldridge) not at least make the Finals?!

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 05:38 PM
No.

This forum been sucking off James for years ...now all of a sudden they wouldn't have advanced further with LeBron..they beat OKC ..last year with James no way he blows the same series lead Kiwi did last year ..that is why he worked on his iso game ...he doesn't want to stumble this year ...
If the argument is he has narrowed the gap on offense this year so his defense is more valuable ...
but last year I would take LeBron 10 out of 10 ...
And I was one of the loudest critics of how James failed to dominate kiwi head to head . .but
Last year James was still head and shoulders the better player overall

DAF86
02-12-2017, 05:44 PM
This forum been sucking off James for years ...now all of a sudden they wouldn't have advanced further with LeBron..they beat OKC ..last year with James no way he blows the same series lead Kiwi did last year ..that is why he worked on his iso game ...he doesn't want to stumble this year ...
If the argument is he has narrowed the gap on offense this year so his defense is more valuable ...
but last year I would take LeBron 10 out of 10 ...
And I was one of the loudest critics of how James failed to dominate kiwi head to head . .but
Last year James was still head and shoulders the better player overall

Nobody is saying Lebron isn't better than Kawhi but the Spurs last year weren't built in a way that would suit Lebron, so no, they wouldn't have fared better than they did.

DAF86
02-12-2017, 05:56 PM
I mean, take the game that is currently going on. How much more do you want Kawhi to do? He has overrated garbage around him, including Popovich.

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 06:08 PM
I mean, take the game that is currently going on. How much more do you want Kawhi to do? He has overrated garbage around him, including Popovich.

More playmaking ...which is what LeBron is the best SF of all time at ...

Thread
02-12-2017, 06:09 PM
I mean, take the game that is currently going on. How much more do you want Kawhi to do? He has overrated garbage around him, including Popovich.

You looked like we looked this season.

How does it feel, DAF?

DAF86
02-12-2017, 06:11 PM
You looked like we looked this season.

How does it feel, DAF?

Not exactly. We still have a young stud to build around, tbh.

DAF86
02-12-2017, 06:13 PM
More playmaking ...which is what LeBron is the best SF of all time at ...

Did you see all the wide ass open looks Kawhi created only for his teammates to brick them?

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 06:14 PM
Not exactly. We still have a young stud to build around, tbh.

Except we went to MSG and won. Although I wish we hadn't

Killakobe81
02-12-2017, 06:18 PM
Did you see all the wide ass open looks Kawhi created only for his teammates to brick them?

LeBron would do that plus get his guys wide open layups...
Look kiwi has come a long way as a playmakers it was a weakness like his perimeter shooting now it's a strength...
but LeBron is Bird, Magic, level as a playmaker ...

Mikeanaro
02-12-2017, 06:20 PM
65 games does not equal championship or even making the Finals LeBron has been the best player in the Finals at least 5 of the last 7 years and a case can be made for 7 for 7 ...despite losing 3 of them.
Lebron plays in the Leastern Conference, thats a free trip to the Finals every year.

DAF86
02-12-2017, 06:23 PM
LeBron would do that plus get his guys wide open layups...
Look kiwi has come a long way as a playmakers it was a weakness like his perimeter shooting now it's a strength...
but LeBron is Bird, Magic, level as a playmaker ...

Kawhi created a lot of layups/dunks for his bigmen too. If not we would have only scored 36 pts (all from Kawhi), tbh.

DAF86
02-13-2017, 09:57 PM
Aldridge is shooting something in high 30s on post-ups, and they are ugly barf-ups or fadeways that have no chance....With his improved passing, Spurs could make a killing with Leonard in his place..


It is a defense-collapsing wrinkle that Pop should employ more now that Pau is providing more spacing being another threat from the midrange and three point line unlike Tim..

Look at this monster! :wow

831326286857396224

As Jordanesque as it gets, tbh.

djohn2oo8
02-14-2017, 06:16 AM
As Jordanesque as it gets, tbh.

Jordan would have hit those free throws against miami.

DAF86
02-14-2017, 11:51 AM
Jordan would have hit those free throws against miami.

Such a bitter hater. :lol

P/S: At age 22 Jordan was too busy missing the playoffs to even have the chance to shoot free throws in the finals, tbh.

P/S 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U98suiXLCCI

6:20 mark onwards :lol

FkLA
03-06-2017, 10:56 PM
djohn2oo8, how does Kawhi's ass taste you dumb faggot?

Chris
03-06-2017, 11:01 PM
^ :lol

FkLA
03-06-2017, 11:26 PM
Tell me, djohn2oo8. How does it taste?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg17Jcuse6U

100%duncan
03-06-2017, 11:42 PM
killakobe and djohn, 2 oblivious old dudes....

BD24
03-07-2017, 12:06 AM
Killas my guy, but he has been fucking up with his kawhi hating.

spurraider21
03-07-2017, 12:10 AM
:worthy:

Mugen
03-07-2017, 12:32 AM
djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870), how does Kawhi's ass taste you dumb faggot?

crofl

DieHardSpursFan1537
03-07-2017, 12:35 AM
All bow down before the almighty Kawhi!

TDMVPDPOY
03-07-2017, 12:39 AM
why should kawhi improve his playmaking skills when thats not his game....he doesn't need to pad his assists to make it seem like he has playmaking skills....

Ice009
03-07-2017, 01:05 AM
Kawhi's game is winning while playing great defense and great offense. Why does he need to stat pad by faking assist numbers so that it looks like he's getting his teammates involved? Kawhi passes the ball. He doesn't need the assist recognition if the Spurs score on a pass after his.

Harden and Westbrook, I wouldn't even consider as players who want to make their teammates better by selflessly passing them the ball. They're just doing it for the assist numbers, IMO. I don't think they're true team players. Lebron is a guy that actually passes the ball because he's trying to win the game and make his teammates better.

What do you guys think?

TDMVPDPOY
03-07-2017, 01:25 AM
his better then Jordan man, Jordan played against bs weak ass perimeter players in t he 90s....

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 01:27 AM
Killas my guy, but he has been fucking up with his kawhi hating.

How am I hating? Tonight was mvp worthy stuff by Kiwi
head2head kiwi generally outplays the other mvp candidates...doesnt mean he is better than LeBron...
Is it hating to say a top 5 GOAT level player is better than Kiwi?
I think KL may win MVP because of all the game winners he is hitting lately ...and maybe he deserves it ...
Still think LeBron is greater but Kiwi is gaining fast

TDMVPDPOY
03-07-2017, 01:34 AM
How am I hating? Tonight was mvp worthy stuff by Kiwi
head2head kiwi generally outplays the other mvp candidates...doesnt mean he is better than LeBron...
Is it hating to say a top 5 GOAT level player is better than Kiwi?
I think KL may win MVP because of all the game winners he is hitting lately ...and maybe he deserves it ...
Still think LeBron is greater but Kiwi is gaining fast

tell me why kawhi isn't better then lebron? his already out played him this season with 1 h2h between left

don't bring up the lebron sitting games excuse where the cavs are 0-5 without him, cause b4 he even sign with cavs they were always a lottery bound team with irving, all of sudden u win a championship guys like irving and love gets promoted as winners fro coatriding lebron when in fact both are just scrubs...hence this season didn't cavs have 3 allstars with love ruled out injured?....and he plays in the pathetic easts against weak ass competition yet is still behind gsw/spurs on the standings...

DAF86
03-07-2017, 01:51 AM
How am I hating? Tonight was mvp worthy stuff by Kiwi
head2head kiwi generally outplays the other mvp candidates...doesnt mean he is better than LeBron...
Is it hating to say a top 5 GOAT level player is better than Kiwi?
I think KL may win MVP because of all the game winners he is hitting lately ...and maybe he deserves it ...
Still think LeBron is greater but Kiwi is gaining fast

You being so sure that Kawhi was going to finish behind Lebron and KD on the all NBA teams was hating, or at least, a bit of ignorance about what Kawhi has been doing this season and what he's capable of doing, tbh.

HarlemHeat37
03-07-2017, 01:53 AM
his better then Jordan man, Jordan played against bs weak ass perimeter players in t he 90s....

:wow

HarlemHeat37
03-07-2017, 01:53 AM
djohn2oo8, how does Kawhi's ass taste you dumb faggot?

:lmao omg..

timtonymanu
03-07-2017, 02:01 AM
djohn was lurking in the game thread right until Kawhi took over. Been gone ever since

HI-FI
03-07-2017, 02:54 AM
djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870), how does Kawhi's ass taste you dumb faggot?
:lol


insane finish from Kawhi.

watched him closely when at Twolves game, he's in his own world, on another level than almost everyone else in the league.

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 11:08 AM
You being so sure that Kawhi was going to finish behind Lebron and KD on the all NBA teams was hating, or at least, a bit of ignorance about what Kawhi has been doing this season and what he's capable of doing, tbh.

Couple of things if Durant hadnt got hurt ...i stand by my original statement.
Kiwi has hit like 3 gamewinners since I posted that so of course the media narrative is starting to change.
I never said Kiwi wasnt deserving i just didnt see the media voting Durant or LeBron 2nd team ...
But the fact that the mainstream media (ie. voters)is just starting to move KL in to top 3 status for MVP shows that I was not "hating" but accurately reporting the tenor of voters.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 11:45 AM
Couple of things if Durant hadnt got hurt ...i stand by my original statement.
Kiwi has hit like 3 gamewinners since I posted that so of course the media narrative is starting to change.
I never said Kiwi wasnt deserving i just didnt see the media voting Durant or LeBron 2nd team ...
But the fact that the mainstream media (ie. voters)is just starting to move KL in to top 3 status for MVP shows that I was not "hating" but accurately reporting the tenor of voters.

Media had no problem voting Kawhi into the 1st team, last season, with a similar record but way less eye catching stats, tbh.

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 12:57 PM
Media had no problem voting Kawhi into the 1st team, last season, with a similar record but way less eye catching stats, tbh.

Media narrative was durant had improved his defense and efficiency and was best player on the best team

DAF86
03-07-2017, 01:01 PM
Media narrative was durant had improved his defense and efficiency and was best player on the best team

I don't give a fuck about media narrative, at some point I want to believe that folks that vote for this shit make their research, look at the facts, look at tapes and vote responsibly. If they do all that shit then not only Kawhi would get more votes than Durant, he should get more votes than Lebron too.

InRareForm
03-07-2017, 01:05 PM
if spurs beat warriors record, kawhi getting MVP seems obv

DAF86
03-07-2017, 01:09 PM
if spurs beat warriors record, kawhi getting MVP seems obv

Shouldn't need to come to that, tbh.

resistanze
03-07-2017, 01:44 PM
Shouldn't need to come to that, tbh.

It will, and even then it's not a guarantee. Harden will win for the same reason Nash did; unwavering media narrative that they won't backtrack on.

ambchang
03-07-2017, 01:51 PM
Tough to say Kawhi is the clear cut MVP winner, just comparing the 6 leading candidates (Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden, Lebron, Durant and Curry), we see that Kawhi is the middle of the pack for scoring metrics using traditional stats, and he is the worst in assists and second worst in rebounds of the group. That said, he's 1st in steals and 2nd in blocks.

From an advanced stats point of view, he has the 2nd highest Ortg at 121 (Durant sites at 125), and highest in Drtg at 101 (Durant 2nd at 102). Durant and Kawhi stands heads and shoulders above everybody else in terms of Ortg - Drtg (23 and 20 respectively). No surprisingly, Kawhi is the best in STL%, 2nd in BLKs %, best (read lowest) in TOV %. He is 2nd in PER (after Westbrook), #2 in WS @ 11.3 (Harden at 12.4 and Durant at 11.4), 1st in WS/48, only 4th in OBPM and DBPM, 3rd in BPM and tied for fourth in VORP.

In comparison, Lebron and Curry are clearly not in the conversation statistics-wise. Not saying that they are not better players or can't be better players, but judging from what they have done for their teams, Lebron and Curry are not there. Durant has a very strong case, but him jumping to a 73 win team will hurt him. Harden has the stats and his team is winning, but his defense is relatively poor and he makes boneheaded mistakes too much for an MVP. Westbrook has the stats and narratives, but his team is not winning, and he makes just as many mistakes. Kawhi in comparison is steady, puts up the stats, his team is winning, he plays defense, doesn't have any gaping mistakes in his game.

A case could be made for any of the four, if Durant didn't get hurt, he SHOULD have been MVP but wouldn't due to narratives. Between Kawhi, Harden and Westbrook, I will go with Kawhi.

http://bkref.com/tiny/d9dMM

Horse
03-07-2017, 01:58 PM
Can you really win MVP with 3 other all-stars on your team? Some still think LeBron is the leagues best player but he plays in the east and should easily have the leagues best record. Westbrick is gonna have to do better than #7. So that leaves the klaw and hardon and after last night just the KLAW!

DAF86
03-07-2017, 02:17 PM
Tough to say Kawhi is the clear cut MVP winner, just comparing the 6 leading candidates (Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden, Lebron, Durant and Curry), we see that Kawhi is the middle of the pack for scoring metrics using traditional stats, and he is the worst in assists and second worst in rebounds of the group. That said, he's 1st in steals and 2nd in blocks.

From an advanced stats point of view, he has the 2nd highest Ortg at 121 (Durant sites at 125), and highest in Drtg at 101 (Durant 2nd at 102). Durant and Kawhi stands heads and shoulders above everybody else in terms of Ortg - Drtg (23 and 20 respectively). No surprisingly, Kawhi is the best in STL%, 2nd in BLKs %, best (read lowest) in TOV %. He is 2nd in PER (after Westbrook), #2 in WS @ 11.3 (Harden at 12.4 and Durant at 11.4), 1st in WS/48, only 4th in OBPM and DBPM, 3rd in BPM and tied for fourth in VORP.

In comparison, Lebron and Curry are clearly not in the conversation statistics-wise. Not saying that they are not better players or can't be better players, but judging from what they have done for their teams, Lebron and Curry are not there. Durant has a very strong case, but him jumping to a 73 win team will hurt him. Harden has the stats and his team is winning, but his defense is relatively poor and he makes boneheaded mistakes too much for an MVP. Westbrook has the stats and narratives, but his team is not winning, and he makes just as many mistakes. Kawhi in comparison is steady, puts up the stats, his team is winning, he plays defense, doesn't have any gaping mistakes in his game.

A case could be made for any of the four, if Durant didn't get hurt, he SHOULD have been MVP but wouldn't due to narratives. Between Kawhi, Harden and Westbrook, I will go with Kawhi.

http://bkref.com/tiny/d9dMM

If you account for the fact that Kawhi is good-to-great on all those stats, has his team on a 60+ wins pace, he plays elite defense, and you add that he dominated EVERY other MVP candidate and elite team out there in head to head matchups, to me there's no doubt he should clearly win MVP.

It's easy to put great looking raw stats when you bump those numbers playing the Nets and Lakers of this World, even playing garbage minutes if it's necessary to get to those averages, tbh.

What people don't get is that while Westbrook and Harden are stat padding in the 4th quarter of a Sixers game, Kawhi is sitting in the bench since the 8 minute mark of the 3rd quarter. Of course his raw numbers aren't going to look as spectacular as the other two.

Oh, but when it's time to play each other and there's no room to be blatantly stat padding, Kawhi always comes up on top, both individually and with the W. He has done that against everybody this season: Harden, Westbrook, Durant, Curry, Lebron, etc, etc, etc.

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 02:20 PM
Tough to say Kawhi is the clear cut MVP winner, just comparing the 6 leading candidates (Kawhi, Westbrook, Harden, Lebron, Durant and Curry), we see that Kawhi is the middle of the pack for scoring metrics using traditional stats, and he is the worst in assists and second worst in rebounds of the group. That said, he's 1st in steals and 2nd in blocks.

From an advanced stats point of view, he has the 2nd highest Ortg at 121 (Durant sites at 125), and highest in Drtg at 101 (Durant 2nd at 102). Durant and Kawhi stands heads and shoulders above everybody else in terms of Ortg - Drtg (23 and 20 respectively). No surprisingly, Kawhi is the best in STL%, 2nd in BLKs %, best (read lowest) in TOV %. He is 2nd in PER (after Westbrook), #2 in WS @ 11.3 (Harden at 12.4 and Durant at 11.4), 1st in WS/48, only 4th in OBPM and DBPM, 3rd in BPM and tied for fourth in VORP.

In comparison, Lebron and Curry are clearly not in the conversation statistics-wise. Not saying that they are not better players or can't be better players, but judging from what they have done for their teams, Lebron and Curry are not there. Durant has a very strong case, but him jumping to a 73 win team will hurt him. Harden has the stats and his team is winning, but his defense is relatively poor and he makes boneheaded mistakes too much for an MVP. Westbrook has the stats and narratives, but his team is not winning, and he makes just as many mistakes. Kawhi in comparison is steady, puts up the stats, his team is winning, he plays defense, doesn't have any gaping mistakes in his game.

A case could be made for any of the four, if Durant didn't get hurt, he SHOULD have been MVP but wouldn't due to narratives. Between Kawhi, Harden and Westbrook, I will go with Kawhi.

http://bkref.com/tiny/d9dMM

Very intelligent balanced and nuanced argument. My point before the Durant injury not only was it a media narrative but he had shown marked improvement on both ends of the floor. I probably wouldnt vote for him ...but those that say he wasnt a, legit candidate are blind. Amb is right LeBron until recently has been coasting so not the MVP and i dont see how Curry can be considered when his seadon has been hood but markedly down from even his first mvp season.

Saying LeBron is geater (duh) doesnt mean he deserves MVP or that i am hating on KL ...for this year kiwi has had the better mvp case

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 02:22 PM
If you account for the fact that Kawhi is good-to-great on all those stats, has his team on a 60+ wins pace, he plays elite defense, and you add that he dominated EVERY other MVP candidate and elite team out there in head to head matchups, to me there's no doubt he should clearly win MVP.

It's easy to put great looking raw stats when you bump those numbers playing the Nets and Lakers of this World, even playing garbage minutes if it's necessary to get to those averages, tbh.

What people don't get is that while Westbrook and Harden are stat padding in the 4th quarter of a Sixers game, Kawhi is sitting in the bench since the 8 minute mark of the 3rd quarter. Of course his raw numbers aren't going to look as spectacular as the other two.

Oh, but when it's time to play each other and there's no room to be blatantly stat padding, Kawhi always comes up on top, both individually and with the W. He has done that against everybody this season: Harden, Westbrook, Durant, Curry, Lebron, etc, etc, etc.

You have a dog in this fight ...you may be right ...
But the homer in you is comingvout in your argument...

ambchang
03-07-2017, 02:34 PM
If you account for the fact that Kawhi is good-to-great on all those stats, has his team on a 60+ wins pace, he plays elite defense, and you add that he dominated EVERY other MVP candidate and elite team out there in head to head matchups, to me there's no doubt he should clearly win MVP.

It's easy to put great looking raw stats when you bump those numbers playing the Nets and Lakers of this World, even playing garbage minutes if it's necessary to get to those averages, tbh.

What people don't get is that while Westbrook and Harden are stat padding in the 4th quarter of a Sixers game, Kawhi is sitting in the bench since the 8 minute mark of the 3rd quarter. Of course his raw numbers aren't going to look as spectacular as the other two.

Oh, but when it's time to play each other and there's no room to be blatantly stat padding, Kawhi always comes up on top, both individually and with the W. He has done that against everybody this season: Harden, Westbrook, Durant, Curry, Lebron, etc, etc, etc.

Tough to quantify, and the Spurs are not that great where Kawhi is just sitting out quarters this year. He puts in the time and his MPG reflects that. I am actually a little concerned that it took such an effort from Kawhi, plus some controversial non-calls to beat the Houston at home.

Also, the BPM and VORP numbers are quite under whelming for an MVP candidate.

Like I said, I would still say Kawhi should be leading the charge, all things considered, but I don't see it as clear cut as you do. Harden and Westbrook has a good case, and Durant, before injury, should have been the leading candidate.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 02:41 PM
You have a dog in this fight ...you may be right ...
But the homer in you is comingvout in your argument...

lol I always laugh when somebody calls me a homer.

I've been called a homer many times regarding Duncan, Manu, Kawhi, Messi, etc and I have always ended up being right. Always.

Of course the same folks that call me a homer, ignore the many times I have declared the Spurs had no chance at the championship, when I predicted them to lose playoffs series, when I said players from other teams deserved awards more than a Spurs one, etc.

I'm not a homer, I'm just more knowledgeable and sensible than most people and sometimes I use these traits to say things that don't fit the common perception. When I do it with teams and players of other teams it's OK, but when I do it with a Spurs player some folks call me a homer. That's my very, very humble truth, tbh. :lol

spurraider21
03-07-2017, 02:54 PM
lol I always laugh when somebody calls me a homer.

I've been called a homer many times regarding Duncan, Manu, Kawhi, Messi, etc and I have always ended up being right. Always.

Of course the same folks that call me a homer, ignore the many times I have declared the Spurs had no chance at the championship, when I predicted them to lose playoffs series, when I said players from other teams deserved awards more than a Spurs one, etc.

I'm not a homer, I'm just more knowledgeable and sensible than most people and sometimes I use these traits to say things that don't fit the common perception. When I do it with teams and players of other teams it's OK, but when I do it with a Spurs player some folks call me a homer. That's my very, very humble truth, tbh. :lol
:lmao... that legit sounds like a copypasta

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 03:12 PM
Tough to quantify, and the Spurs are not that great where Kawhi is just sitting out quarters this year. He puts in the time and his MPG reflects that. I am actually a little concerned that it took such an effort from Kawhi, plus some controversial non-calls to beat the Houston at home.

Also, the BPM and VORP numbers are quite under whelming for an MVP candidate.

Like I said, I would still say Kawhi should be leading the charge, all things considered, but I don't see it as clear cut as you do. Harden and Westbrook has a good case, and Durant, before injury, should have been the leading candidate.

This, again ...
Amb when not trolling or hating is pound for pound as good a poster that frequents this wasteland...

spursistan
03-07-2017, 03:15 PM
djohn2oo8 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870), how does Kawhi's ass taste you dumb faggot?


djohn was lurking in the game thread right until Kawhi took over. Been gone ever since

:lmao

Bynumite
03-07-2017, 04:43 PM
Maybe based on his 2 way game but from a technical standpoint, skills and fundamentals he's not seeing neither MJ or Kobe imho.

HarlemHeat37
03-07-2017, 04:50 PM
Maybe based on his 2 way game but from a technical standpoint, skills and fundamentals he's not seeing neither MJ or Kobe imho.

:lol you guys still do the thing where you group Kobe with Jordan? Damn..

Bynumite
03-07-2017, 04:58 PM
:lol you guys still do the thing where you group Kobe with Jordan? Damn..

Did i say anything about accomplishments and accolades? No.

As far as skills and fundamentals, Kobe and MJ are at the same level imo with MJ being more athletically gifted than Kobe.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 04:58 PM
Maybe based on his 2 way game but from a technical standpoint, skills and fundamentals he's not seeing neither MJ or Kobe imho.

You better pray for Kawhi to not ring with the Spurs as the top dog, 'cause that's all it will take for folks to have him over Kobe in the all-time list. He's already playing better and in a more efficient way than Kobe ever dreamed of, tbh.

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 04:59 PM
You better pray for Kawhi to not ring with the Spurs as the top dog, 'cause that's all it will take for folks to have him over Kobe in the all-time list. He's already playing better and in a more efficient way than Kobe ever dreamed of, tbh.

Why you even allow discussing Kobe in this thread?

Bynumite
03-07-2017, 05:05 PM
You better pray for Kawhi to not ring with the Spurs as the top dog, 'cause that's all it will take for folks to have him over Kobe in the all-time list. He's already playing better and in a more efficient way than Kobe ever dreamed of, tbh.

Kiwi is borderline top 50 right now. You're delusional if you think a ring this season would suddenly put him in the top 10 conversation but then again you think Manu>Dirk :lol

DAF86
03-07-2017, 05:06 PM
Did i say anything about accomplishments and accolades? No.

As far as skills and fundamentals, Kobe and MJ are at the same level imo with MJ being more athletically gifted than Kobe.

What a cliche, "nothing saying", empty phrase, tbh. :lol

Ok, please explain me what did MJ and Kobe did in terms of "skills and fundamentals" that Kawhi doesn't? :lol

DAF86
03-07-2017, 05:09 PM
Kiwi is borderline top 50 right now. You're delusional if you think a ring this season would suddenly put him in the top 10 conversation.

I wasn't necessarily talking about this season, tbh. If Kawhi keeps this progression and wins one or two more championships, along the way, as the top dog. He probably finishes ahead of Kobe in the all-time list, tbh.

Bynumite
03-07-2017, 05:14 PM
I wasn't necessarily talking about this season, tbh. If Kawhi keeps this progression and wins one or two more championships, along the way, as the top dog. He probably finishes ahead of Kobe in the all-time list, tbh.

That's a lot of ifs and buts. As we know things don't always go as planned.

Midget was supposed to be the undisputed GOAT by now but that world cup trophy seems to be out of his reach.

Bynumite
03-07-2017, 05:16 PM
What a cliche, "nothing saying", empty phrase, tbh. :lol

Ok, please explain me what did MJ and Kobe did in terms of "skills and fundamentals" that Kawhi doesn't? :lol

I've seen all 3 play and Kiwi is not on their level technically. Go watch some video or something, i don't know :lol

DAF86
03-07-2017, 05:17 PM
That's a lot of ifs and buts. As we know things don't always go as planned.

Midget was supposed to be the undisputed GOAT by now but that world cup trophy seems to be out of his reach.

I agree son, a lot can happen. That's why I said you should pray for Kawhi to never ring as the top dog, tbh.

Now, I'm more interested in what fundamentals you think Kawhi is lacking than MJ and Kobe had, tbh. Could you please elaborate on that?

DAF86
03-07-2017, 05:18 PM
I've seen all 3 play and Kiwi is not on their level technically. Go watch some video or something, i don't know :lol

Just what I thought, tbh. :lol

Blake
03-07-2017, 05:30 PM
I wasn't necessarily talking about this season, tbh. If Kawhi keeps this progression and wins one or two more championships, along the way, as the top dog. He probably finishes ahead of Kobe in the all-time list, tbh.

Good lord. Lol

ambchang
03-07-2017, 05:35 PM
Did i say anything about accomplishments and accolades? No.

As far as skills and fundamentals, Kobe and MJ are at the same level imo with MJ being more athletically gifted than Kobe.

Is shooting 40% a result of fundamentals?

DAF86
03-07-2017, 05:37 PM
Good lord. Lol

Oh, look the "I don't make homer comments so I'm cool" guy.

monosylab1k
03-07-2017, 05:41 PM
lol I always laugh when somebody calls me a homer.

I've been called a homer many times regarding Duncan, Manu, Kawhi, Messi, etc and I have always ended up being right. Always.

Of course the same folks that call me a homer, ignore the many times I have declared the Spurs had no chance at the championship, when I predicted them to lose playoffs series, when I said players from other teams deserved awards more than a Spurs one, etc.

I'm not a homer, I'm just more knowledgeable and sensible than most people and sometimes I use these traits to say things that don't fit the common perception. When I do it with teams and players of other teams it's OK, but when I do it with a Spurs player some folks call me a homer. That's my very, very humble truth, tbh.

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DAF86
03-07-2017, 05:43 PM
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Angry you didn't get Okafot yet?

P/S: Did you really took the time to edit the lol smiley face on my original comment? :lmao

monosylab1k
03-07-2017, 05:44 PM
I'll ELE bet you that SA doesn't get past the 2nd round, tbh.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 05:49 PM
I'll ELE bet you that SA doesn't get past the 2nd round, tbh.

You really want me to send you there again? :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213228

Blake
03-07-2017, 06:09 PM
Oh, look the "I don't make homer comments so I'm cool" guy.

Oh look, the Manu>Dirk but I'm not a homer guy

DAF86
03-07-2017, 06:11 PM
Oh look, the Manu>Dirk but I'm not a homer guy

Do you think is too far stretched to think Kawhi could, someday, win a championship or two as the main guy with the Spurs?

monosylab1k
03-07-2017, 06:14 PM
You really want me to send you there again? :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213228

Taking the bet or not?

Killakobe81
03-07-2017, 06:16 PM
Oh look, the Manu>Dirk but I'm not a homer guy

:lol
Iirc he also would take him over Kobe and Wade ...but i cant say for sure if that was him that posted that upstairs a few years back

Kyle Orton
03-07-2017, 06:26 PM
spurfan has come a long way from only caring about rings tbh

DAF86
03-07-2017, 06:33 PM
Taking the bet or not?

To tell you the truth I'm not that confident about the Spurs this season, for exactly the same reason I've been on the Kawhi for MVP wagon since very early on the season: this is a glorified one man team, and those don't tend to do too well in the playoffs.

We have the worst rotation of guards in the entire NBA (not just playoffs teams, the entire NBA. Even your Mavs with those D-league signs get more production out of their guards than the Spurs) and giving the ball in the post to Aldridge is as good as a turnover right now.

The only thing that prevents me from definitely assuring that the Spurs are second round fodder is that it seems like we are going to face the Rockets in the 2nd round, and they also are a very flawed one man team. Still, they are built in a way that it would only take a hot shooting streak for them to knock any other team off in a 7 games series. So, even though I think the Spurs are better, I don't feel comfortable betting on a Spurs-Rockets series.

But I guess that if you really want to bet I'm in, I didn't plan to post much after the Spurs lost this season anyway. :lol

DAF86
03-07-2017, 06:35 PM
:lol
Iirc he also would take him over Kobe and Wade ...but i cant say for sure if that was him that posted that upstairs a few years back

No, it wasn't me. I never trully argued Manu > Dirk either, fwiw.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 06:37 PM
spurfan has come a long way from only caring about rings tbh

There's nothing wrong with cheering for guys to get individual awards when you know you are not good enough to win it all, tbh. Last night was the most fun I had watching an NBA game in a long time. That's what being a fan is all about, not always has to be championship or bust, tbh.

midnightpulp
03-07-2017, 10:41 PM
Did i say anything about accomplishments and accolades? No.

As far as skills and fundamentals, Kobe and MJ are at the same level imo with MJ being more athletically gifted than Kobe.

Except that part where Jordan was way more efficient than Kirbs.

Kobe had some impressive footwork, moves, and was the best difficult shot maker in NBA history, but I can't see how he's Jordan's equivalent technically when Mike would sink those low-post fadeaways at a much higher rate.

monosylab1k
03-07-2017, 11:19 PM
There's nothing wrong with cheering for guys to get individual awards when you know you are not good enough to win it all, tbh. Last night was the most fun I had watching an NBA game in a long time. That's what being a fan is all about, not always has to be championship or bust, tbh.

:lmao sounds downright 2006 era Suns fan-esque. Must suck knowing deep down your team has no shot at a title, despite all the regular season success.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 11:25 PM
:lmao sounds downright 2006 era Suns fan-esque. Must suck knowing deep down your team has no shot at a title, despite all the regular season success.

Not really, it has been a very entertaining season for me, tbh. What must really suck is watching a below .500 team for an entire season, can you tell me how does that feel? I have never experienced it, tbh.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 11:27 PM
Except that part where Jordan was way more efficient than Kirbs.

Kobe had some impressive footwork, moves, and was the best difficult shot maker in NBA history, but I can't see how he's Jordan's equivalent technically when Mike would sink those low-post fadeaways at a much higher rate.

A rate that Kawhi (not Kobe) matches, tbh.

monosylab1k
03-07-2017, 11:28 PM
Not really, it has been a very entertaining season for me, tbh. What must really suck is watching a below .500 team for an entire season, can you tell me how does feel? I have never experienced it, tbh.

Well I'm certainly not waxing poetic about the beauty of winning games in the regular season.

Especially when just a handful of years ago all of you were doing the "FOUR RINGS FAGGOT" autistic screeching.

midnightpulp
03-07-2017, 11:32 PM
I'll ELE bet you that SA doesn't get past the 2nd round, tbh.

Up for a cash bet?

Spurs are a 5/1 dog per Vegas to win it all.

Up for giving me 2-1 that they at least make it to the Finals? Keep it friendly. My 50.00 against your 100.00.

DAF86
03-07-2017, 11:32 PM
Well I'm certainly not waxing poetic about the beauty of winning games in the regular season.

Especially when just a handful of years ago all of you were doing the "FOUR RINGS FAGGOT" autistic screeching.

Not me son. I'm all about the ride when the destination isn't the desire one, tbh.

spursistan
03-08-2017, 12:18 AM
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TDMVPDPOY
03-08-2017, 12:23 AM
if kawhi is to win rings, I hope he wins them without that faggot porker...don't want to see that clown with +5 rings...

spurraider21
03-08-2017, 01:02 AM
Well I'm certainly not waxing poetic about the beauty of winning games in the regular season.

Especially when just a handful of years ago all of you were doing the "FOUR RINGS FAGGOT" autistic screeching.5 rings faggot.

enjoy celebrating some regular season point milestone for _irk Oneringski

Mikeanaro
03-08-2017, 01:05 AM
Lol to anyone thinking Dirk is/was better than Manu.

Cry Havoc
03-08-2017, 03:19 AM
Well I'm certainly not waxing poetic about the beauty of winning games in the regular season.

Especially when just a handful of years ago all of you were doing the "FOUR RINGS FAGGOT" autistic screeching.

Fucking wow.

We just had a top 5 player of all-time retire. Chicago still hasn't recovered from Jordan hanging them up. The Lakers are a laughingstock after losing their two recent greats. The Rockets took years to rebuild after Hakeem fell from his peak.

The Spurs just lost their GOAT and instead of flailing about in the lottery for 5-10 years, we're the #2 team in the league with a consensus top 5 player, who's likely not even peaking athletically yet. The Spurs have, barring injury, 8 years of prime Kawhi Leonard left, who's almost certainly going to go down as one of the top 3 wing defenders of all-time and could also become a 30ppg scorer.

Forgive us for enjoying these dark years of our franchise after Timmy walks away from the game and we go onto win 60+ with almost a decade to build around the most complete player in the NBA not named LeBron.

100%duncan
03-08-2017, 03:40 AM
You being so sure that Kawhi was going to finish behind Lebron and KD on the all NBA teams was hating, or at least, a bit of ignorance about what Kawhi has been doing this season and what he's capable of doing, tbh.

Killa said to me kawhi was going to get 2nd team, and not because he's getting snubbed but because kd deserves it mroe :lol :lmao

Thomas82
03-08-2017, 07:06 AM
Fucking wow.

We just had a top 5 player of all-time retire. Chicago still hasn't recovered from Jordan hanging them up. The Lakers are a laughingstock after losing their two recent greats. The Rockets took years to rebuild after Hakeem fell from his peak.

The Spurs just lost their GOAT and instead of flailing about in the lottery for 5-10 years, we're the #2 team in the league with a consensus top 5 player, who's likely not even peaking athletically yet. The Spurs have, barring injury, 8 years of prime Kawhi Leonard left, who's almost certainly going to go down as one of the top 3 wing defenders of all-time and could also become a 30ppg scorer.

Forgive us for enjoying these dark years of our franchise after Timmy walks away from the game and we go onto win 60+ with almost a decade to build around the most complete player in the NBA not named LeBron.

Well said!!

TDMVPDPOY
03-08-2017, 08:53 AM
[QUOTE=Cry Havoc;8928051]The Spurs have, barring injury, 8 years of prime Kawhi Leonard left, who's almost certainly going to go down as one of the top 3 wing defenders of all-time and could also become a 30ppg scorer.
QUOTE]

what makes u think he stay here during his prime if FO continues to surround him with crap and not winning a ring?

now he should be asking when is porker going to retire and stop hanging to be a burden to him

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 09:58 AM
Fucking wow.

We just had a top 5 player of all-time retire. Chicago still hasn't recovered from Jordan hanging them up. The Lakers are a laughingstock after losing their two recent greats. The Rockets took years to rebuild after Hakeem fell from his peak.

The Spurs just lost their GOAT and instead of flailing about in the lottery for 5-10 years, we're the #2 team in the league with a consensus top 5 player, who's likely not even peaking athletically yet. The Spurs have, barring injury, 8 years of prime Kawhi Leonard left, who's almost certainly going to go down as one of the top 3 wing defenders of all-time and could also become a 30ppg scorer.

Forgive us for enjoying these dark years of our franchise after Timmy walks away from the game and we go onto win 60+ with almost a decade to build around the most complete player in the NBA not named LeBron.

:lmao after years of scoffing other fanbases for celebrating regular season victories/awards, Spurs Fans can all go fuck themselves if they think they can get away with it now.

Brazil
03-08-2017, 11:55 AM
so DAF is not a homer ? :lol

140
03-08-2017, 12:21 PM
No

He's just more sensible :lol

DAF86
03-08-2017, 12:33 PM
so DAF is not a homer ? :lol

Let's see, you tell me which are the comments I've made that make you think I'm a homer.

spursistan
03-08-2017, 01:51 PM
Fucking wow.

We just had a top 5 player of all-time retire. Chicago still hasn't recovered from Jordan hanging them up. The Lakers are a laughingstock after losing their two recent greats. The Rockets took years to rebuild after Hakeem fell from his peak.

The Spurs just lost their GOAT and instead of flailing about in the lottery for 5-10 years, we're the #2 team in the league with a consensus top 5 player, who's likely not even peaking athletically yet. The Spurs have, barring injury, 8 years of prime Kawhi Leonard left, who's almost certainly going to go down as one of the top 3 wing defenders of all-time and could also become a 30ppg scorer.

Forgive us for enjoying these dark years of our franchise after Timmy walks away from the game and we go onto win 60+ with almost a decade to build around the most complete player in the NBA not named LeBron.

savage :wow...

Why is Mavfan suddenly running his mouth here? Don't tell me the Yoggi Ferrell/Finney Smith/Harrison Barnes/Noel core has gotten their hopes up :lol..

Blake
03-08-2017, 02:03 PM
Let's see, you tell me which are the comments I've made that make you think I'm a homer.


GIVE THAT MAN THE MVP RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

Brazil
03-08-2017, 02:16 PM
Let's see, you tell me which are the comments I've made that make you think I'm a homer.

in this particular thread about Kawhi none

Brazil
03-08-2017, 02:18 PM
No

He's just more sensible :lol

:lol

DAF86
03-08-2017, 02:23 PM
in this particular thread about Kawhi none

What about in general? please, enlighten me.

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 02:50 PM
savage :wow...

Why is Mavfan suddenly running his mouth here? Don't tell me the Yoggi Ferrell/Finney Smith/Harrison Barnes/Noel core has gotten their hopes up :lol..
Mavs and Spurs have equally zero shot at winning a title. Enjoy your meaningless regular season wins.

spursistan
03-08-2017, 03:00 PM
Mavs and Spurs have equally zero shot at winning a title. Enjoy your meaningless regular season wins.

:lmao..

Gotta love this cute attempt at dragging us to step on their treadmill of mediocrity..1 playoff series won since 2011 :lol..

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 03:09 PM
:lmao..

Gotta love this cute attempt at dragging us to step on their treadmill of mediocrity..1 playoff series won since 2011 :lol..

:lmao Spurs Fans have become SSOL era Suns fans.

Killakobe81
03-08-2017, 03:32 PM
Killa said to me kawhi was going to get 2nd team, and not because he's getting snubbed but because kd deserves it mroe :lol :lmao

Before he got hurt i was making the media case and he may have deserved it too amb gave a bunch of stats why.

FkLA
03-08-2017, 03:41 PM
:lmao Spurs Fans have become SSOL era Suns fans.

Come on now. Don't be dumb. I know they aren't the clear cut favorites, but they're every bit of legit contenders as the Mavs were during their championship run.

FkLA
03-08-2017, 03:42 PM
:lmao Spurs Fans have become SSOL era Suns fans.

Come on now. Don't be dumb. I know they aren't the clear cut favorites, but they're every bit of legit contenders as the Mavs were during their championship run.

140
03-08-2017, 03:49 PM
Actually a lot of people were picking the tlongs to upset them in round 1. Nobody gave the Mavs a chance when the playoffs started tbh, it was just after they swept the lakers that people started to take them seriously

DAF86
03-08-2017, 04:07 PM
Actually a lot of people were picking the tlongs to upset them in round 1. Nobody gave the Mavs a chance when the playoffs started tbh, it was just after they swept the lakers that people started to take them seriously

That's why mono's talk about Spurs having absolutely no chance is retarded, tbh. You never know what can happen.

ambchang
03-08-2017, 04:43 PM
You being so sure that Kawhi was going to finish behind Lebron and KD on the all NBA teams was hating, or at least, a bit of ignorance about what Kawhi has been doing this season and what he's capable of doing, tbh.

Honestly, at this point, I am not so sure Lebron deserves 1st team all NBA. Durant, without the injury, was more deserving of it. Not saying Durant is the better player, because I still think Lebron is, but based on what has been accomplished this season pre-injury, Durant and Kawhi were both better 1st team choices than Lebron.

If I have to choose today, it would be:
Kawhi
Durant
Harden
Westbrook
Lebron if I can move Durant to center, otherwise it would be either Giannis or Cousins at centre, which tells you how crap centre is this season.

RsxPiimp
03-08-2017, 04:59 PM
Lebron's practically the difference between the Cavs missing the playoffs and repeating as champions and people aren't sure he deserves a spot over Durant?

Foh :lol

UZER
03-08-2017, 05:26 PM
:lmao Spurs Fans have become SSOL era Suns fans.

Come on now. Don't be dumb. I know they aren't the clear cut favorites, but they're every bit of legit contenders as the Mavs were during their championship run.

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 05:33 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/nba-mvp-lebron-james-harden-kawhi-leonard-russell-westbrook-030817


Kawhi Leonard is the most infuriating of all the MVP candidates because he has no case.

:lmao


Don't get me wrong, Leonard is a tremendous basketball player, but he's simply not better than LeBron at anything on the offensive end of the floor. LeBron averages 2.2 more rebounds per game and an enormous 5.4 more assists per game than Leonard. LeBron is fourth in the league in assists per game, while Leonard tied for 54th.

Leonard is also a far less efficient scorer. Despite averaging 0.4 points more per game than LeBron, Leonard shoots 5.1 pecent worse from the field and 1.3 percent worse from 3.

:cry but but but his defense :cry



But Leonard’s defense is incredible, right? Consider this revelation:

The Spurs defense is markedly better when Kawhi Leonard isn't playing.

Per 100 possessions, the Spurs allow 103.4 points per game with Leonard on the court. When he sits, the Spurs allow 95.7 points. That’s a negative 7.7-point difference.

:lmao

DAF86
03-08-2017, 05:45 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/nba-mvp-lebron-james-harden-kawhi-leonard-russell-westbrook-030817



:lmao



:cry but but but his defense :cry



:lmao

That shit's retarded. He talks about efficiency but names raw FG% instead of true shooting %, which is the stat to trully show the efficiency of a player. In that stat Kawhi > Lebron.

He also fails to say that Kawhi has a better Player EFFICIENCY Rating.

Not to mention that Lebron, with 2 other all-stars on his team and playing on the weaker conference, has a worse record than Kawhi's team, in which Leonard is the only all-star.

And finally, but no least, Kawhi went to Cleveland and made Lebron his bitch.

Nothing to see here, just a Lebron stan, cherry picking the stats he wants to fit his agenda, tbh.

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 06:03 PM
cherry picking the stats he wants to fit his agenda, tbh.

:lmao hold on, I need to find a dictionary and look up "irony" to make sure it applies here.

DAF86
03-08-2017, 06:07 PM
:lmao hold on, I need to find a dictionary and look up "irony" to make sure it applies here.

At least I don't say Lebron "has no case", tbh.

Brazil
03-08-2017, 06:56 PM
What about in general? please, enlighten me.

Pretty much all the rest brah... it's ok tho :lol

Cry Havoc
03-08-2017, 10:29 PM
:lmao after years of scoffing other fanbases for celebrating regular season victories/awards, Spurs Fans can all go fuck themselves if they think they can get away with it now.

:lmao Pissing away your franchise GOAT's waning years as one of the worst teams in the league while Duncan got a title on his way out.

We aren't celebrating regular season victories, numbnuts. We're celebrating the fact that a player we traded our backup PG for is a top 3 player in the game and the best two way player not named LeBron since Michael Fucking Jordan.

Just to recap, two seasons removed from a title the guy sitting at SF for us would already be, at 25, peaking higher than any player in Mavs history not named Dirk.

And you laugh at us? For having maybe the best defender in history at 25 and a guy we're going to build a team around for another generation?

Ok. Laugh all you want. We'll just be over here, MAKING MORE FUCKING TITLE RUNS. Duncan retired and we're still shitting all over your franchise. :lol

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 10:32 PM
:lmao Pissing away your franchise GOAT's waning years as one of the worst teams in the league while Duncan got a title on his way out.

We aren't celebrating regular season victories, numbnuts. We're celebrating the fact that a player we traded our backup PG for is a top 3 player in the game and the best two way player not named LeBron since Michael Fucking Jordan.

Just to recap, two seasons removed from a title the guy sitting at SF for us would already be, at 25, peaking higher than any player in Mavs history not named Dirk.

And you laugh at us? For having maybe the best defender in history at 25 and a guy we're going to build a team around for another generation?

Ok. Laugh all you want. We'll just be over here, MAKING MORE FUCKING TITLE RUNS. Duncan retired and we're still shitting all over your franchise. :lol
I'm not gonna bother reading your autistic screeching. Your team won't win a championship this season, deal with it.

Cry Havoc
03-08-2017, 10:34 PM
I'm not gonna bother reading your autistic screeching. Your team won't win a championship this season, deal with it.

Your team won't win a title before 2025. :lol The guy we traded our backup PG for is worth more than your entire fucking franchise. I wouldn't trade Kawhi for every single player on your roster. :lmao

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 10:37 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/929/CyDcujNXgAA5ond.jpg

Cry Havoc
03-08-2017, 10:39 PM
le witty memes

I type three sentences and you can't handle it. :lol How sad are you about your franchise right now? :lol

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 11:09 PM
http://i67.tinypic.com/23kr8xw.jpg

Cry Havoc
03-08-2017, 11:30 PM
:lmao It's okay, I understand you're giving up.

monosylab1k
03-08-2017, 11:42 PM
http://i67.tinypic.com/23kr8xw.jpg

Clipper Nation
03-08-2017, 11:47 PM
:lol Cry Autist with the meltdown

PopTheGOAT
03-08-2017, 11:55 PM
I'm not gonna bother reading your autistic screeching. Your team won't win a championship this season, deal with it.
Mavs fans celebrating bc they "might" get the 8 seed :lol

DAF86
03-08-2017, 11:56 PM
Pretty much all the rest brah... it's ok tho :lol

What rest? Things like:

-Messi is the best player in the World.
-Barcelona is the best team in the World.
-Higuain is a World class striker.
-Duncan > Kobe.
-Manu is a Hall of Famer.
-Spurs will win the 2014 championship.
-Kawhi is an MVP candidate.

That type of things? :lol

spurraider21
03-09-2017, 12:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/vDxJOf6.gif

monosylab1k
03-09-2017, 12:50 AM
http://i63.tinypic.com/2nq9mh2.jpg

HarlemHeat37
03-09-2017, 12:52 AM
^^:lol

Mark Celibate
03-09-2017, 12:55 AM
:lmao Pissing away your franchise GOAT's waning years as one of the worst teams in the league while Duncan got a title on his way out.

We aren't celebrating regular season victories, numbnuts. We're celebrating the fact that a player we traded our backup PG for is a top 3 player in the game and the best two way player not named LeBron since Michael Fucking Jordan.

Just to recap, two seasons removed from a title the guy sitting at SF for us would already be, at 25, peaking higher than any player in Mavs history not named Dirk.

And you laugh at us? For having maybe the best defender in history at 25 and a guy we're going to build a team around for another generation?

Ok. Laugh all you want. We'll just be over here, MAKING MORE FUCKING TITLE RUNS. Duncan retired and we're still shitting all over your franchise. :lol

that was a pretty cringeworthy post IMO

but I will say that it's pretty remarkable (and unprecedented) what the Spurs have done in the last 25 years though. It's getting to the point where Poppovic could just take a shit, put a Spurs jersey over the fecal matter, and it would turn into a 20+ ppg scorer overnight.

Leetonidas
03-09-2017, 12:57 AM
Lol

TDMVPDPOY
03-09-2017, 08:28 AM
doesn't kawhi have a better 3pt% then Jordan?

I'm not concern with apg, that's not kawhis job to be point forward...when u have a guy who is the jack of all trades and master of none, then ur basically nothing more then a stat padder...

ambchang
03-09-2017, 08:48 AM
The more I think about it, the more I think Kawhi would be like a David Robinson for wings. Great career, one of the best defenders in NBA history, carry his team on his back for the regular season, can score in bunches, but I am not sure if Kawhi has the ability carry an offense to a championship in the playoffs. We will wait and see.

Kawhi needs another scorer and a rough inside presence to make the Spurs a championship team. Aldridge should have been at least one of the two, but I don't think he's panning out.

Hope he proves me wrong this year.

rasuo214
03-09-2017, 10:13 AM
On-Off numbers is such a misleading stat. If the team has a shit bench (like the Cavs and Thunder do) or an awful backup their on-off numbers will get inflated. Look at Kevin Love with a +12.1 On-Off. Anyone want to argue he has anywhere near Lebron (or any other MVP candidate) level impact?

Cry Havoc
03-09-2017, 12:33 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think Kawhi would be like a David Robinson for wings. Great career, one of the best defenders in NBA history, carry his team on his back for the regular season, can score in bunches, but I am not sure if Kawhi has the ability carry an offense to a championship in the playoffs. We will wait and see.

Kawhi needs another scorer and a rough inside presence to make the Spurs a championship team. Aldridge should have been at least one of the two, but I don't think he's panning out.

Hope he proves me wrong this year.

Normally I'd agree with you, but with KD hurt and no one sure he'll be 100%, this season is wide open for just about anyone to make the Finals.

ambchang
03-09-2017, 12:41 PM
Normally I'd agree with you, but with KD hurt and no one sure he'll be 100%, this season is wide open for just about anyone to make the Finals.

I believe you are right, I do not see any clear cut favourites so far this year, and this year's winners may well come from who got the most favourable matchups in the playoffs. In other words, seeding is key, and on paper, the Cavs have the least to go through. I think the Spurs have a good chance, but Aldridge must start focusing more on the dirty work side (setting screens, getting rebounds), and be a scoring threat in the post, like a traditional big. I am just not sure if he is built that way, and it's really forcing a round peg in a square hole. Perhaps Dedmon can be that guy, but he is just way too limited offensively.

Gasol and Ginobili can be a huge offensive boost for the 2nd unit.

GSW has looked average without Durant, but I still think they are the favourites even now.
Cleveland could be sleepwalking through the regular season, but I honestly think they are just done. That said, they only really have to play 4 great games the entire playoffs and the championship is theirs.
Spurs are the dark horse, if Green wakes up from long range, and if Parker and Mills can at least play like rotational NBA guards, the Spurs would be dangerous.
Clippers seems to be all but done.
Jazz are too raw, and is looking like a 2012 Pacers team.
OKC is a one man show that could be easily shut down in the playoffs.

Cry Havoc
03-09-2017, 01:06 PM
I believe you are right, I do not see any clear cut favourites so far this year, and this year's winners may well come from who got the most favourable matchups in the playoffs. In other words, seeding is key, and on paper, the Cavs have the least to go through. I think the Spurs have a good chance, but Aldridge must start focusing more on the dirty work side (setting screens, getting rebounds), and be a scoring threat in the post, like a traditional big. I am just not sure if he is built that way, and it's really forcing a round peg in a square hole. Perhaps Dedmon can be that guy, but he is just way too limited offensively.

Gasol and Ginobili can be a huge offensive boost for the 2nd unit.

GSW has looked average without Durant, but I still think they are the favourites even now.
Cleveland could be sleepwalking through the regular season, but I honestly think they are just done. That said, they only really have to play 4 great games the entire playoffs and the championship is theirs.
Spurs are the dark horse, if Green wakes up from long range, and if Parker and Mills can at least play like rotational NBA guards, the Spurs would be dangerous.
Clippers seems to be all but done.
Jazz are too raw, and is looking like a 2012 Pacers team.
OKC is a one man show that could be easily shut down in the playoffs.

Clippers are bizarre. This should be their year. But they just look like they have no interest in being a great team.

140
03-09-2017, 01:11 PM
:lol Cry Autist with the meltdown
:lmao

Mark Celibate
03-09-2017, 01:25 PM
The problem is that Cry Havoc posted his picture here before so it's hard to take a post like that seriously when you know there's a nu-male in cargo shorts behind it.

Killakobe81
03-09-2017, 01:51 PM
The problem is that Cry Havoc posted his picture here before so it's hard to take a post like that seriously when you know there's a nu-male in cargo shorts behind it.

Cry is cool who gives a shit what he looks like ...except whomever he lays with?!

Blake
03-09-2017, 03:10 PM
That shit's retarded. He talks about efficiency but names raw FG% instead of true shooting %, which is the stat to trully show the efficiency of a player. In that stat Kawhi > Lebron.

He also fails to say that Kawhi has a better Player EFFICIENCY Rating.

Not to mention that Lebron, with 2 other all-stars on his team and playing on the weaker conference, has a worse record than Kawhi's team, in which Leonard is the only all-star.

And finally, but no least, Kawhi went to Cleveland and made Lebron his bitch.

Nothing to see here, just a Lebron stan, cherry picking the stats he wants to fit his agenda, tbh.

DAF the non Homer

Blake
03-09-2017, 03:11 PM
http://i63.tinypic.com/2nq9mh2.jpg

:lmao

DAF86
03-09-2017, 04:26 PM
DAF the non Homer

So you think it's "homeristic" to say Kawhi has a case for MVP? Mmh, ok.

Blake
03-09-2017, 05:20 PM
GIVE THAT MAN THE MVP RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

Mm ok

Killakobe81
03-09-2017, 06:21 PM
So you think it's "homeristic" to say Kawhi has a case for MVP? Mmh, ok.

Of course he has a case and it grows stronger week by week ....
But your a homer because you are dismissing stats and well thought arguments that differs from yours.

You are becoming the Spurs version of the Old Kobe stans. You don't give a shit about the numbers ... just watch the games!!!
Sound familiar?:lol

DAF86
03-09-2017, 06:48 PM
Of course he has a case and it grows stronger week by week ....
But your a homer because you are dismissing stats and well thought arguments that differs from yours.

You are becoming the Spurs version of the Old Kobe stans. You don't give a shit about the numbers ... just watch the games!!!
Sound familiar?:lol

Except I'm doing the complete opposite, I'm dismissing stupid arguments while providing stats and facts, tbh.

DAF86
03-09-2017, 06:52 PM
Mm ok

Why would you quote that clearly tongue in cheek comment after the Spurs-Rockets game? :lol

I know why, tbh. 'Cause you don't have anything else. :lol

Phillip
03-09-2017, 09:36 PM
Except I'm doing the complete opposite, I'm dismissing stupid arguments while providing stats and facts, tbh.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

oh you were serious?

:lmao

BD24
03-10-2017, 12:15 AM
Cry is cool who gives a shit what he looks like ...except whomever he lays with?!
Think he posted a picture of his gf awhile back and she was sexy as fuck

Blake
03-10-2017, 08:58 AM
Why would you quote that clearly tongue in cheek comment after the Spurs-Rockets game? :lol

I know why, tbh. 'Cause you don't have anything else. :lol

Lol tongue in cheek.

I get a kick out of kneejerk spur fans that can't be objective

Splits
03-10-2017, 11:13 AM
I've seen all 3 play and Kiwi is not on their level technically. Go watch some video or something, i don't know :lol

2yTkOeWyfFI

Killakobe81
03-10-2017, 11:24 AM
Think he posted a picture of his gf awhile back and she was sexy as fuck

Good for him. Cry is good peoples he just gets overly emotional about his squad sometimes but i respect it. You cool too, kingslay. This shit here is just to talk a little hoops and some shit:lol
niccas here take shit to far or to seriously. Wgaf about mvp or Jordan comparisons? KL is easily the youngest and ascending player of the mvp candidates. And Laker, Rox and Mavs fans would trade their two best players for him easily.

DAF86
03-10-2017, 11:34 AM
Lol tongue in cheek.

I get a kick out of kneejerk spur fans that can't be objective

Dude, not my problem you aren't smart enough to differentiate serious posts from not so serious ones, tbh.