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ElNono
02-12-2017, 11:09 PM
Trump impeached? You can bet on it
The prospect that the president won't make it through his term is big business for bookmakers.

There’s already talk of impeachment, just three weeks into Donald Trump’s turbulent presidency. In fact, many are already betting on it.

Gambling houses all over the world are taking in action on whether Trump, inaugurated just last month, will resign or be impeached. And the odds aren’t as long as you might think.

Ladbrokes, the British oddsmaking giant, has Trump’s chances of leaving office via resignation or impeachment and removal at just 11-to-10, or just a little worse than even money. The odds of Trump being impeached this year in the House of Representatives are only 4-to-1, according to the Irish bookmaker Paddy Power, despite GOP control of the chamber. You can win $180 on a $100 bet with Bovada, the online gaming site, that Trump won’t make it through a full term — though the bet is off if Trump passes away during the next four years.

All in all, Trump has meant big business for the international gambling industry. There’s always been betting on politics — mostly as a novelty around election season — but professional bookies say Trump’s unlikely victory and tumultuous transition mean that gamblers are jonesing to wager on his presidency.

“From a betting perspective, Donald Trump’s presidency has triggered a massive boom for these kinds of markets,” said Alex Donohue, the PR manager of Ladbrokes. “With Donald Trump, everything he does, it can be turned into speculation, and that can be turned into gambling.”

More:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-impeachment-bets-234931

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:lol det title tho

boutons_deux
02-12-2017, 11:18 PM
impeachment isn't required

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250910&p=8901382&viewfull=1#post8901382

declaring Trash unfit, which is obvious, plus a Congressional vote, Trash is gone in a flash. Repugs get their preferred guy Pence installed.

poof

mavsfan1000
02-12-2017, 11:21 PM
So many stupid people in our country. Trump is great for it. I lose respect every time I hear of this.

Aztecfan03
02-13-2017, 01:03 AM
It would be great if he did something worthy of it. Then we can get a real republic as president.

boutons_deux
02-13-2017, 01:55 PM
How Trump can be held accountable for violating the Constitution, even if Congress doesn’t care

An obscure legal tactic could be used to hold Trump accountable for illegal acts without involving Congress, Jed Shugerman, a professor at Fordham University Law School, tells ThinkProgress.

“The more widespread a problem that a higher official creates for the entire public, the harder it is to challenge it because its hard to find an individual that stands out as more injured than anybody else by the highest officials hurting the American public broadly,” Shugerman told ThinkProgress.

Shugerman solves for this problem by turning the standing problem on its head.

The Quo Warranto solution

Shugerman’s approach stems from one important legal concept:

Incorporation is a privilege afforded by the state, but to maintain corporate status, one must conduct business legally.

State attorneys general have the power to bring actions against corporations, something known as a “Quo Warranto” proceeding, to determine whether the corporations are a conduit for illegal activity. This is known as a corporation acting “ultra vires” or beyond its legal authority.

In this case, the proceeding would determine whether Trump’s corporate entities are being used as a conduit for illegal emoluments to Trump.

Importantly, the case would involve a public official (a state attorney general) suing a private entity (the Trump Organization). This means standing would be on much firmer ground.

In many states, Quo Warranto authority has been explicitly provided to the state attorney general by statute. In New York, for example, the attorney general has the authority to bring such an action against a corporation under New York Business Corporation Law § 1101:


(a) The attorney-general may bring an action for the dissolution of a corporation upon one or more of the following grounds:

(1) That the corporation procured its formation through fraudulent misrepresentation or concealment of a material fact.

(2) That the corporation has exceeded the authority conferred upon it by law, or has violated any provision of law whereby it has forfeited its charter, or carried on, conducted or transacted its business in a persistently fraudulent or illegal manner, or by the abuse of its powers contrary to the public policy of the state has become liable to be dissolved.

(b) An action under this section is triable by jury as a matter of right.

If successful, the remedies in such a proceeding are “revoking or dissolving the corporate charter, enjoining it from exercising the illegal activity, and/or imposing a financial penalty on the corporation.”

In the case of Trump, that could mean enjoining the Trump organization from doing business with foreign governments, requiring that Trump divest from certain assets, or completely dissolving the Trump corporation.

The proceeding could involve discovery and significant disclosures by Trump, including his tax returns and how much business he does with foreign governments.

(https://thinkprogress.org/how-trump-can-be-held-accountable-for-violating-the-constitution-even-if-congress-doesnt-care-45677e6b85f7#.rwv9ijdaf)The special case of Trump’s D.C. hotel

A Quo Warranto proceeding can be used to challenge the use of a corporation to funnel illegal emoluments, but also any other illegal activity. In Washington, D.C., Trump appears to have violated his lease with the federal government regarding his new hotel—the GSA lease prohibits federal officials from controlling the hotel.

The attorney general for Washington, D.C., Karl A. Racine, could potentially bring a Quo Warranto proceeding against the Trump organization for violating its government lease. That proceeding could force Trump to divest from the hotel or take other remedial steps.

The ideal venue: New York

New York would be an ideal venue to bring such a proceeding because the Trump Organization is officially incorporated there.

https://thinkprogress.org/how-trump-can-be-held-accountable-for-violating-the-constitution-even-if-congress-doesnt-care-45677e6b85f7#.rwv9ijdaf (https://thinkprogress.org/how-trump-can-be-held-accountable-for-violating-the-constitution-even-if-congress-doesnt-care-45677e6b85f7#.rwv9ijdaf)

hater
02-13-2017, 02:01 PM
Not gona happen unless he gets framed or the military takes over which would not really be an impeachment but a coup.

Hes too smart for retarded people like Shillarys clows or CNN. He has run circles around them so far and there is no indication this is going to change anytime soon.

boutons_deux
02-13-2017, 07:04 PM
 Congressional Democrats Are Already Warning Trump About Impeachment

Progressive Caucus Vice Chair Mark Pocan says the president must resolve “direct conflicts in both domestic and foreign policy” or face constitutional consequences.

Impeachment is not a legal mechanism, it’s a political act.

An impeached official is not charged by a prosecutor and tried in the courts; nor is he or she jailed or fined if found guilty.

An impeached official is charged by the House of Representatives, tried by the Senate, and removed from office if convicted.

Pocan has spoken, as members of Congress should, with an eye toward “keeping every option open to try to get this administration to function like any other administration in the past—Democrat or Republican.” “Clearly,” the congressman says (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLREq48wqkM), “one of those remedies is the power of impeachment.”

 Pocan described instances where Trump has disregarded safeguards “designed to prevent corruption and foreign influence over policy decisions.”

“These are just tip of the iceberg examples of direct conflicts in both domestic and foreign policy under this president,”

 Should the president fail to address potential conflicts and embrace necessary transparency, Pocan said, “we’ll have to take other actions, including legislative directives, resolutions of disapproval and even explore the power of impeachment.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/congressional-democrats-are-already-warning-trump-about-impeachment/

Reck
02-13-2017, 07:06 PM
Dems should shut the fuck up about impeachment talks and focus on winning the senate. They ain't going to do shit without it and talking like this will just backfire on them.

boutons_deux
02-13-2017, 07:07 PM
Moby (Yes, The Musician) Claims He Can Guarantee Russia Dossier Is ‘100%’ Real

after spending the weekend talking to friends who work in dc i can safely(well, ‘accurately’…) post the following things:

1-the russian dossier on trump is real. 100% real. he’s being blackmailed by the russian government, not just for being peed
on by russian hookers, but for much more nefarious things.

2-the trump administration is in collusion with the russian government, and has been since day one.

3-the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast
of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.

4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he’s a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch
brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.

5-intelligence agencies around the world, and here in the u.s, are horrified by the incompetence of the trump administration, and are working to present information that will lead to high level firings and, ultimately, impeachment.

I’m writing these things so that when/if these things happen there will be a public record beforehand.

these are truly baffling and horrifying times, as we have an incompetent president who is essentially owned by a foreign power.

-moby

https://www.thenation.com/article/congressional-democrats-are-already-warning-trump-about-impeachment/

Much more believable that Don The Con riding his BIRTHER horse to political fame, or 3M+ illegal voters, or, etc, etc, etc.

Spurminator
02-13-2017, 07:13 PM
Do they have odds on him declining to run again in 2020?

TheSanityAnnex
02-13-2017, 07:14 PM
Moby (Yes, The Musician) Claims He Can Guarantee Russia Dossier Is ‘100%’ Real

after spending the weekend talking to friends who work in dc i can safely(well, ‘accurately’…) post the following things:

1-the russian dossier on trump is real. 100% real. he’s being blackmailed by the russian government, not just for being peed
on by russian hookers, but for much more nefarious things.

2-the trump administration is in collusion with the russian government, and has been since day one.

3-the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast
of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.

4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he’s a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch
brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.

5-intelligence agencies around the world, and here in the u.s, are horrified by the incompetence of the trump administration, and are working to present information that will lead to high level firings and, ultimately, impeachment.

I’m writing these things so that when/if these things happen there will be a public record beforehand.

these are truly baffling and horrifying times, as we have an incompetent president who is essentially owned by a foreign power.

-moby

https://www.thenation.com/article/congressional-democrats-are-already-warning-trump-about-impeachment/

Much more believable that Don The Con riding his BIRTHER horse to political fame, or 3M+ illegal voters, or, etc, etc, etc.



MOBY
:lmao :lmao :lmao

boutons_deux
02-13-2017, 07:14 PM
Foreign Spies Must Be Bored by How Easy Trump Makes Their Jobs (https://theintercept.com/2017/02/13/spies-must-bored-easy-trump-makes-jobs/)

PAYING MEMBERS OF Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach were treated to some impromptu dinner theater this weekend as the new president handled a national security crisis in full view of fellow diners on the resort’s terrace.

Apparently untroubled by the possibility that foreign intelligence services might have made the minimal effort required to plant operatives among the guests, or wait staff, Trump was photographed discussing North Korea’s surprise missile test with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan as waiters removed dishes and aides used their phone flashlights (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/12/politics/trump-shinzo-abe-mar-a-lago-north-korea/index.html) to illuminate sensitive documents.

Several images of the spectacle were posted on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/richarddeagazio/posts/10154937288174840) a short time later by a new member of the club, Richard DeAgazio

https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2017/02/Screen-Shot-2017-02-13-at-2.34.48-PM-1487019723.png


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/651524926747242496/eZxTxSGg_normal.jpgGene Sperling @genebsperling (https://twitter.com/genebsperling)

Bannon & Flynn used phone flashlights for Trump read most secure N Korea docs w/waiters serving. Maybe Rs can scream more about HRC emails https://twitter.com/pbump/status/830961711431626752 … (https://t.co/e7Dj8CaH8M)
9:26 PM - 12 Feb 2017 (https://twitter.com/genebsperling/status/830981563735121920)

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/13/spies-must-bored-easy-trump-makes-jobs/

Hillary ran unsecured email server? :lol

TheSanityAnnex
02-13-2017, 07:16 PM
Do they have odds on him declining to run again in 2020?
Just ask Moby

boutons_deux
02-13-2017, 07:18 PM
MOBY
:lmao :lmao :lmao

He's MORE BELIEVABLE that your hero Don The Con

MultiTroll
02-13-2017, 07:19 PM
Moby (Yes, The Musician) Claims

-moby

boots I would never try to get anyone to come out against their will on SpursTalk.
And indeed, it is one of the tenants (allegedly) of ST to not go for personal info.

That having been said, you're dropping some serious hints.
Generalized question. Would you be comfortable coming out on ST or not?

Reck
02-13-2017, 07:28 PM
MOBY
:lmao :lmao :lmao

A real emotion from you. I'm shocked.

This is how we mostly feel about your pizzagate conspiracy. Now you know that laughing feeling. Lol

TheSanityAnnex
02-13-2017, 07:34 PM
A real emotion from you. I'm shocked.

This is how we mostly feel about your pizzagate conspiracy. Now you know that laughing feeling. Lol
Too bad you're a known welcher or I'd offer you the same bet about pizzagate monosylab1k and I have going right now

boutons_deux
02-13-2017, 07:34 PM
Would you be comfortable coming out on ST or not?

G F Y

TheSanityAnnex
02-13-2017, 07:36 PM
He's MORE BELIEVABLE that your hero Don The Con
Can you ask Moby what he thinks we should do about North Korea, or if his friends have mentioned anything.

boutons_deux
02-13-2017, 07:38 PM
OF COURSE NOT

U.S. House tax panel will not seek Trump tax returns

A congressional tax oversight committee will not seek U.S. President Donald Trump's tax returns despite calls from Democrats for a review to determine possible business ties to foreign countries including Russia, the panel's Republican chairman said on Monday.

Defying decades of precedent, Trump has refused to release his tax documents, which Democrats say could show whether his business empire poses any conflicts of interest as he moves forward on issues ranging from tax reform to foreign relations.

"If Congress begins to use its powers to rummage around in the tax returns of the president, what prevents Congress from doing the same to average Americans?" :lol what a stupid fuck :lol

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tax-returns-idUSKBN15S2GZ?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

Reck
02-13-2017, 07:53 PM
Too bad you're a known welcher or I'd offer you the same bet about pizzagate monosylab1k and I have going right now

You never learn boy.

hater
02-13-2017, 08:46 PM
Smart money is on Trump finishing his presidency tbqh. Lol at all d idiots betting against d house :lol

hater
02-13-2017, 08:47 PM
IMO Trump will be bored being president by 2020. He will probably try find a way to pass his presidency to Pence, a pence doppleganger or Ivanka.

MultiTroll
01-13-2023, 12:06 PM
OP did any of the houses pay for Impeached but still slithering around the White House until Old Joe ushered him out?

ElNono
01-13-2023, 07:18 PM
OP did any of the houses pay for Impeached but still slithering around the White House until Old Joe ushered him out?

Can you translate this to english plz? thx

Isitjustme?
01-14-2023, 08:38 AM
Can you translate this to english plz? thx

That read like Fabbs forgot to log into his ducks account

MultiTroll
01-15-2023, 02:44 AM
OP did any of the houses pay for Impeached but still slithering around the White House until Old Joe ushered him out?


Can you translate this to english plz? thx
I can't keep up with all of Trumps criminal acts, but didn't he get impeached but was allowed to finish term since he only had a week left?

Hence did bettors win in the OP mention that if tRump was "impeached"?
Or did the bet have to include his being exterminated from living at the White House?

ElNono
01-15-2023, 07:15 AM
I can't keep up with all of Trumps criminal acts, but didn't he get impeached but was allowed to finish term since he only had a week left?

Hence did bettors win in the OP mention that if tRump was "impeached"?
Or did the bet have to include his being exterminated from living at the White House?

He got impeached twice but since the GOP controlled the Senate, he was absolved twice.

MultiTroll
01-15-2023, 12:42 PM
Trump impeached? You can bet on it
The prospect that the president won't make it through his term is big business for bookmakers.

There’s already talk of impeachment, just three weeks into Donald Trump’s turbulent presidency. In fact, many are already betting on it.

Gambling houses all over the world are taking in action on whether Trump, inaugurated just last month, will resign or be impeached. And the odds aren’t as long as you might think.

Ladbrokes, the British oddsmaking giant, has Trump’s chances of leaving office via resignation or impeachment and removal at just 11-to-10, or just a little worse than even money. The odds of Trump being impeached this year in the House of Representatives are only 4-to-1, according to the Irish bookmaker Paddy Power, despite GOP control of the chamber. You can win $180 on a $100 bet with Bovada, the online gaming site, that Trump won’t make it through a full term — though the bet is off if Trump passes away during the next four years.

All in all, Trump has meant big business for the international gambling industry. There’s always been betting on politics — mostly as a novelty around election season — but professional bookies say Trump’s unlikely victory and tumultuous transition mean that gamblers are jonesing to wager on his presidency.

“From a betting perspective, Donald Trump’s presidency has triggered a massive boom for these kinds of markets,” said Alex Donohue, the PR manager of Ladbrokes. “With Donald Trump, everything he does, it can be turned into speculation, and that can be turned into gambling.”

More:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-impeachment-bets-234931

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:lol det title tho


He got impeached twice but since the GOP controlled the Senate, he was absolved twice.
So maybe some houses said he had to only be impeached (he was twice, hey wonder if that paid double) whereas other houses said he had to leave before his term was up?

ElNono
01-15-2023, 03:53 PM
So maybe some houses said he had to only be impeached (he was twice, hey wonder if that paid double) whereas other houses said he had to leave before his term was up?

Somebody made bank, that's for sure. You can bet on almost anything these days, tbh

boutons_deux
01-15-2023, 04:20 PM
He got impeached twice but since the GOP controlled the Senate, he was absolved twice.

trash was not absolved, he was not convicted

ElNono
01-15-2023, 04:56 PM
trash was not absolved, he was not convicted

He was absolved. A conviction requires a guilty verdict, which he never received.