Cousins officially traded to Pelicans

[Clipper Nation]

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:lol Lakers
:lol The Magic/Kobe "braintrust" keeping Brandoff "The Bust" Ingram instead of trading for Cousins

[Clipper Nation]

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[Silver&Black]

LkrFan get your ass in here and :downspin: this shit

[spursistan]

:lmao Lakers

[Clipper Nation]

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[Clipper Nation]

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:lol The Kings' front office is almost as bad as the Lakers'.

[ducks]

Laughing at lakers

[ducks]

Kings could have gotten more

[Clipper Nation]

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:lol Damn, the Kings just got trade-raped by that moron Dell Demps.

[JMarkJohns]

I can't even fathom the amount of booze it take to think that deal is better than what Phoenix or LA could offer within without people whose names begin with B being included.

[Rust Cohle]

:lmao what is Sacramento's obsession with shitty players whose only skill was shooting college 3's?

[Trainwreck2100]

I can't even fathom the amount of booze it take to think that deal is better than what Phoenix or LA could offer within without people whose names begin with B being included.

they must have really really not wanted to trade in their own division

[JMarkJohns]

From my understanding the Suns were willing to trade Len, Warren or Chris's, 2017 1st and one of the two Miami 1sts.

That deal destroys Pelicans offer.

Glad for Gentry.

[Killakobe81]

I told yall we we couldn't snag cousins ...
I don't think we had what they wanted which were picks ...
So I don't know why it's LOL Magic and Buss ...they didn't want our offer is what I am hearing

[Clipper Nation]

Porker's daddy is available:

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Do it, Doc!

[InRareForm]

nice new arena with crappy seasons ahead

[Budkin]

The Pelicans are for realz.

[DAF86]

Obviously great trade for the Pelicans, but I wonder if Davis and Cousins won't overlap a bit.

[NASpurs]

Porker's daddy is available:

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Do it, Doc!


CP3, Austin Rivers and Langston Galloway all teaming up to kill Porker? That might just make him go over the edge to retire. Do it Doc!

[Killakobe81]

Best pf/c combo in the nba?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Pelicans 2nd best team in the west

[UZER]

More NBA handouts to New Orleans.

[LkrFan]

LkrFan get your ass in here and :downspin: this shit

Why? The Queens HATE the Lakers. Non-issue s:loln

[100%duncan]

Wtf just happened

[Thread]

Thank Christ he ain't comin' here.

Talk show is on vacation tomorrow, but, Tuesday they'll be in full rehab mode about him not coming here. "I said I want him here, but, my gut told me that we would be better off without Cousins. So I couldn't be happier."

"I'm glad we stuck to our guns. I really am. Really, I am."

Kool doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

"I'm also glad the Lakers didn't get him. I did not want him to team with Kobe." --- "Kobe's retired." --- "Oh, well, I'm still glad the Lakers didn't get him. Yeah."

"Damn, we were so close to getting Aldridge, now this. At least we still have Bledsoe. He's having an All-Star year."

[LkrFan]

Laughing at lakers

...again I ask, why? No way the Queens trade with us.

[DAF86]

...again I ask, why? No way the Queens trade with us.

That's exactly why, tbh. :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

Done with the Chargers and now done with the Kings. I'm teamless, farewell Spurstalk

[daslicer]

Warriors-pelicans first round matchup will be entertaining.

[LkrFan]

WC Big 3:


Dubs
Spurs
Pelicans?

[LkrFan]

Done with the Chargers and now done with the Kings. I'm teamless, farewell Spurstalk

Can I have your avatar? :lol

[Thread]

Warriors-pelicans first round matchup will be entertaining.

They'll do to the Pelicans what Trump did to Hillary:::mop the fuckin' floor with 'em.

[Killakobe81]

Thank Christ he ain't comin' here.

Talk show is on vacation tomorrow, but, Tuesday they'll be in full rehab mode about him not coming here. "I said I want him here, but, my gut told me that we would be better off without Cousins. So I couldn't be happier."

"I'm glad we stuck to our guns. I really am. Really, I am."

Kool doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

"I'm also glad the Lakers didn't get him. I did not want him to team with Kobe." --- "Kobe's retired." --- "Oh, well, I'm still glad the Lakers didn't get him. Yeah."

"Damn, we were so close to getting Aldridge, now this. At least we still have Bledsoe. He's having an All-Star year."

Why you coming at KOOL ON this one, Cully?
This has nothing to do with politico beefs ...

[LkrFan]

Where's BRPelican tbh? :lol

[LkrFan]

Boogie/Unibrow vs :claw/LaMarsha? Can't wait sons! :downspin:

[Thread]

Why you coming at KOOL ON this one, Cully?
This has nothing to fo with politico beefs ...

I know. But, I had a bush handy so I whacked him with it.

[Thread]

Boogie/Unibrow vs :claw/LaMarsha? Can't wait sons! :downspin:

That'd be bigger than Trump.

Just kiddin'.

[Killakobe81]

Nola probably getting 7 seed and Spur fan doesn't realize it yet ...
Cully is right state would destroy pelicans because they have no guard play ...
Spurs have guards but they are old

[LkrFan]

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:rollin :lmao :rollin

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Best pf/c combo in the nba?

Without a doubt. Great trade for the Pelicans.

As for the Kings, well...............at least they got picks. That's all I can say.

[Rust Cohle]

Done with the Chargers and now done with the Kings. I'm teamless, farewell Spurstalk
http://www.kyphotoarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/091003caliparismc199A.jpg

[LkrFan]

That'd be bigger than Trump.

Just kiddin'.

Chaaaaarge?

[Thread]

Nola probably getting 7 seed and Spur fan doesn't realize it yet ...
Cully is right state would destroy pelicans because they have no guard play ...
Spurs have guards but they are old

...& sodded, like that King in "Conan, The Barbarian."

[Killakobe81]

Happly for real Pelican fans

[Thread]

Chaaaaarge?


Oh, yeah, we'd do us some chargin' if that happened.

[LkrFan]

Hold the phone:

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:downspin:

[LkrFan]

Oh, yeah, we'd do us some chargin' if that happened.

:lmao

[LkrFan]

Happly for real Pelican fans

I'm not. The CP0 deal was better. Yet Cubes and company cried until The Trade! got vetoed. It still hurts :(

[Thread]

Davis won't be able to shit right for a month.

[Clipper Nation]

Hold the phone:

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:downspin:

:lmao Magic and Kobe wouldn't even trade Brandoff Ingram for Cousins. He's not leaving Anthony Davis to come sign with your shit team full of busts.

[LkrFan]

_ _ _cramento butthurt:

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:lol

[Clipper Nation]

The Warriors and their "fans" are probably shitting their pants thinking of what Boogie and the Brow are about to do to them in the first round :lol

:lol 8: Warriors Edition

[LkrFan]

:lmao Magic and Kobe wouldn't even trade Brandoff Ingram for Cousins. He's not leaving Anthony Davis to come sign with your shit team full of busts.

As long as the Clipps don't EVER rang, I'm good :)

[Robz4000]

Nola probably getting 7 seed and Spur fan doesn't realize it yet ...
Cully is right state would destroy pelicans because they have no guard play ...
Spurs have guards but they are old

NOLA is like 8 games out from 7; can't see it happening unless Westchimp goes down.

[LkrFan]

The Warriors and their "fans" are probably shitting their pants thinking of what Boogie and the Brow are about to do to them in the first round :lol

:lol 8: Warriors Edition

ELE bet? :toast

[baseline bum]

Buddy fucking Hield and a late lottery pick for Cousins? What the fuck is Sacramento doing? Don't tell me Ainge didn't offer the Brooklyn pick, because that would have been a far better deal for the Kings.

[Ghazi]

The Warriors and their "fans" are probably shitting their pants thinking of what Boogie and the Brow are about to do to them in the first round :lol

:lol 8: Warriors Edition

warriors in 5

[Killakobe81]

NOLA is like 8 games out from 7; can't see it happening unless Westchimp goes down.

Damn didn't realize they were that far back ...

[daslicer]

Nola probably getting 7 seed and Spur fan doesn't realize it yet ...
Cully is right state would destroy pelicans because they have no guard play ...
Spurs have guards but they are old

I don't see them getting the 7th seed. Just looked at OKC's schedule. OKC only has a combined 4 games left against spurs,warriors and rockets. I can see then winning 1 out of 4 those games. After that they have a combined 3 games left against playoff teams in Memphis, jazz, raptors. The rest of the teams left on the schedule are light weights. It would take an epic losing streak by OKC and epic win streak by the pelicans for OKC to lose the seventh seed. Odds are OKC will keep the seventh seed.

[ElNono]

Happly for real Pelican fans

all 3 of em? :lol

[DAF86]

Nola probably getting 7 seed and Spur fan doesn't realize it yet ...
Cully is right state would destroy pelicans because they have no guard play ...
Spurs have guards but they are old

Pels are 10 games behind OKC with three teams in between. It would be almost impossible for them to get to 7th, tbh.

Also, I really doubt NO suddenly becomes a powerhouse. Yeah, a Davis/Cousins pairing is nice but you still have to see how their games mesh, there will be a lot of growing pains. Their perimeter play isn't all that either.

[313]

Done with the Chargers and now done with the Kings. I'm teamless, farewell Spurstalk
weren't winning with him anyway, might as well look towards the future.

[daslicer]

Pels are 10 games behind OKC with three teams in between. It would be almost impossible for them to get to 7th, tbh.

Also, I really doubt NO suddenly becomes a powerhouse. Yeah, a Davis/Cousins pairing is nice but you still have to see how their games mesh, there will be a lot of growing pains. Their perimeter play isn't all that either.

I remember when Duncan first played with Robinson it took them 20 games to mesh. I remember them being 10-10 record wise before they started to click.

[Robz4000]

Pels are 10 games behind OKC with three teams in between. It would be almost impossible for them to get to 7th, tbh.

Also, I really doubt NO suddenly becomes a powerhouse. Yeah, a Davis/Cousins pairing is nice but you still have to see how their games mesh, there will be a lot of growing pains. Their perimeter play isn't all that either.

Doubt the Pelicans stand pat; they'll prolly swing a trade for a worthwhile SG (Magic were shopping Fournier iirc) and another capable wing to play behind Casspi.

[baseline bum]

Buddy Hield fucking sucks. It's not like he is a 20 year-old with potential like say Jaylen Brown. Motherfucker is 23 and should be entering his prime right now. How do they not take Ainge's Brooklyn pick that would give them a guy with a chance to build their franchise around? What a piece of shit team, Sacramento should have let them leave to Anaheim.

[baseline bum]

Congrats to the Pels fans though, this is one of the most lopsided trades I have ever seen.

[Clipper Nation]

weren't winning with him anyway, might as well look towards the future.

This garbage return isn't looking towards the future. Hell, this trade benefits the Sixers' future more than the Kings' because of the pick-swap Hinkie fleeced out of them.

[baseline bum]

This garbage return isn't looking towards the future. Hell, this trade benefits the Sixers' future more than the Kings' because of the pick-swap Hinkie fleeced out of them.

:lmao When does Philly get to swap picks with Sac?

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao When does Philly get to swap picks with Sac?

:lol This year. They also have an unprotected 2019 first rounder from the Kings.

[AaronY]

Omg poor TSA

[apalisoc_9]

Good luck boogie! You're the better player between you and Davis and dont let anyone tell you otherwise!

[Cry Havoc]

Best twin towers since DRob and Tim, tbh. :wow

[313]

This garbage return isn't looking towards the future. Hell, this trade benefits the Sixers' future more than the Kings' because of the pick-swap Hinkie fleeced out of them.
wow, Sac really is a garbage franchise :lol

[redzero]

My dick is hard.

[HarlemHeat37]

Terrible trade for Sacramento and no-brainer for the Pelicans, but I don't know why people think they're going to dominate immediately, tbh..we aren't going to see the finished product until next season, at the earliest IMO..

They could still show flashes fueled by pure talent, but 2 players with the same style of play takes a while to gel..Wade and Lebron didn't gel offensively until season 2, and Robinson/Duncan didn't until midway through the season, for example..

I don't watch college basketball, so I'm not the person to discuss potential based on college career, but Hield has looked horrendous as a pro in his rookie year, other than 2-3 games..

[lefty]

Weren't they teammates in college?

Damn #chemistry

[Robz4000]

Weren't they teammates in college?

Damn #chemistry

Cousins left in 2010, a year before Davis got there.

[PopTheGOAT]

Nola probably getting 7 seed and Spur fan doesn't realize it yet ...
Cully is right state would destroy pelicans because they have no guard play ...
Spurs have guards but they are old
9 games behind the 7 with 28 games left? No way. GS getting that shit 1st round :lol

[Robz4000]

Terrible trade for Sacramento and no-brainer for the Pelicans, but I don't know why people think they're going to dominate immediately, tbh..we aren't going to see the finished product until next season, at the earliest IMO..

They could still show flashes fueled by pure talent, but 2 players with the same style of play takes a while to gel..Wade and Lebron didn't gel offensively until season 2, and Robinson/Duncan didn't until midway through the season, for example..

I don't watch college basketball, so I'm not the person to discuss potential based on college career, but Hield has looked horrendous as a pro in his rookie year, other than 2-3 games..

Regardless, the Dubs are getting a tough matchup in the first round. They prolly still win in 5 but it's better than the fucking Nuggets.

[PopTheGOAT]

Pels only 2.5 back of the 8, 9 back of the 7. So basically guaranteed 8 seed. Poor nuggets :lol

[Clipper Nation]

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[apalisoc_9]

The Nuggets have had the second best offense since they committed to Jokic. They probably should be competing for the 7th seed right now instead of 8th had they started at the beginning of the season and Jokic wasnt injured.

I don't think its going to be easy to catch the Nuggets.

I suspect the Thunder end up with 44 wins, Nugget 40...

[Mitch]

They'll do to the Pelicans what Trump did to Hillary:::mop the fuckin' floor with 'em.

You're probably happy Cousins isn't unpacking his shit on your front lawn, eh Cub? Phoenix radio would be talking into your ear for weeks.

[Spurtacular]

Not a great deal for the Kings in a vacuum; but they needed to move on sooner rather than later.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Pelicans are 23-34 :lol ... probably too late to make the playoffs and get a .500 record.

Twin Towers are back... so who's the PF and who's the center? Also who are the other 3 guys in their starting lineup?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Pels only 2.5 back of the 8, 9 back of the 7. So basically guaranteed 8 seed. Poor nuggets :lol

Reminds me of the 2006 Kings & the 2007 Warriors, tbh. Make a blockbuster trade mid-season, come all the way back from the cellar to the 8 seed & pose serious threat to top seed in the playoffs.

[-21-]

Great for New Orleans, obviously, but I doubt they make the playoffs. It'll be interesting to see how Davis and Cousins fit together on and off the court. Arguably the two best bigs in the league sharing a team, I guess their personal stats are gonna take hits, right?

[Darth_Pelican]

:lol I'm still in shock trying to figure out why the Kings did this deal

[Arcadian]

Best pf/c combo in the nba?

Obviously. Who else are you considering? They're two of the top 10 players in the league regardless of position...a little redundant, as others have pointed out, but both are dynamic enough to make it work.


so who's the PF and who's the center?

I assume it will be Cousins at C and Davis at PF, simply because Cousins is heavier and stronger. But honestly, it's a mostly arbitrary distinction in the modern NBA. Now there are simply "bigs," and every big wants to have guard skills. The traditional center is all but dead. Hence why the All-star game dropped the position entirely, instead opting for a frontcourt/backcourt dichotomy.

Not sure if they'll make the playoffs, but it'd be a fascinating matchup with GS if they did. All perimeter vs. all frontcourt.

[ElNono]

Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...

[Thread]

You're probably happy Cousins isn't unpacking his shit on your front lawn, eh Cub? Phoenix radio would be talking into your ear for weeks.

Yep. Now it'll be a one day flat eared tell off (Tuesday). Then they'll continue to pump up Bledsoe so somebody will take him off their hands.

[cutewizard]

what the hell................

[cutewizard]

Twin Powers for the Pelicans, hey....

hmmmm, interesting.......

[Biernutz]

warriors-pelicans conference finals?.......not so fast. Has boogie ever shown that he can play
with anyone and be a consistent winner. Will he stay for the next contract? As the Spurs have
shown that team chemistry counts more than anything......what happens when Boogie has to
sit a game for too many technicals? What about the pouting? Then the most important
thing,there is the Spurs , Houston and Memphis they have to get past. Good luck with that.........

[cutewizard]

Pelicans versus the Warriors in the first round could be epic, hahahahahaha

wait till Cousins goes up against Draymond, wow

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Pelicans versus the Warriors in the first round could be epic, hahahahahaha

wait till Cousins goes up against Draymond, wow

If they can trade for a Tony Allen-like perimeter defender who can harass and suffocate Eliancito, thus not allowing him any breathing room to get off his jumpers, they can actually win the series (:wow). The object is, of course, to force feed the paint and spam the Holiday/AD/Boogie double screen such that the Dublets will be forced to pick their poison and give up a good shot or layup every time. Against a team like Golden State you can ill-afford to squander any possessions on isoball and poor shots so the focus will be shot selection and maximizing each offensive possession.

[Down Under]

This is great talent wise for the Pels, getting a top 10 player, but a massive gamble at the same time. Cousins unfortunately, while frowned upon as being a cancer, crazy, etc may very well have a mental disorder which won't just go away by changing teams.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

This is great talent wise for the Pels, getting a top 10 player, but a massive gamble at the same time. Cousins unfortunately, while frowned upon as being a cancer, crazy, etc may very well have a mental disorder which won't just go away by changing teams.

He's a rich man's Rasheed Wallace. Pretty much the exact same game except better... and same problems.

[Down Under]

He's a rich man's Rasheed Wallace. Pretty much the exact same game except better... and same problems.

That's possible, Wallace was still crazy when he went to Detroit, but despite his constant beef with the refs, he was able to lock in defensively most games. Im still not sure Rasheed was in the same headspace as Cousins.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That's possible, Wallace was still crazy when he went to Detroit, but despite his constant beef with the refs, he was able to lock in defensively most games. Im still not sure Rasheed was in the same headspace as Cousins.

Cousins is a force on defense in the paint when he puts his mind to it. He's got the ability for sure.

[benefactor]

He's a rich man's Rasheed Wallace. Pretty much the exact same game except better... and same problems.
:lol...no. Besides both of them being crazy, they are nothing the same. Prime Sheed would take a shit on Boogie.

[UZER]

I don't know man. Maybe cousins is like that super hot psycho chick thats with a dude and he just kicks her ass to the curb to let someone else deal with her. Sure she's fine, but not worth the drama, and you just want to move on with your life.

[lefty]

That being said, how good is their backcourt?


TD and Robinson got away with winning a title with AJ and Elie :lol, but they eventully had to upgrade their backcourt with Parker and Manu

Also : :lol Ainge

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lol...no. Besides both of them being crazy, they are nothing the same. Prime Sheed would take a shit on Boogie.

You mean that guy that built a house in the 4th quarter of the most important game of his life? :lol

[poeticism707]

Why? The Queens HATE the Lakers. Non-issue s:loln

:rollin :rollin :rollin

[StrengthAndHonor]

League execs thought Buddy Hield has a higher ceiling than Julius Randle.

Lakers young talent:lol

[TimDunkem]

League execs thought Buddy Hield has a higher ceiling than Julius Randle.

Lakers young talent:lolWhat talent? :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

What talent? :lol
True, true :lol

[Darth_Pelican]

Pels should go get John Calipari to coach his Kentucky duo.

[DJR210]

R.I.P Kings

[DPG21920]

Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...

Circumstance plays a lot into wins/losses. Injuries, surrounding talent, etc...both AD/Boogie have undeniably been great on the court despite team record due to circumstance.

[DPG21920]

:lmao Lakers not willing to trade Ingram for Boogie. Being reported that LA could have had Boogie but THEY said no because of Ingram.

[spursistan]

Pels should go get John Calipari to coach his Kentucky duo.

if Gentry doesn't figure it out, he is will be out by December..

[DPG21920]

But yes, if they don't do well next year (this year is excusable) then the excuses will run thin.

[StrengthAndHonor]

:lmao Lakers not willing to trade Ingram for Boogie. Being reported that LA could have had Boogie but THEY said no because of Ingram.
Tbh though, I wouldn't give up anything of potential value for DMC either. He's just too volatile and from all reports, it's unclear if he'll re-sign with NOH or any team that trades for him.

[Cry Havoc]

:lol...no. Besides both of them being crazy, they are nothing the same. Prime Sheed would take a shit on Boogie.

Holy shit bene you are delusional.

Wallace's best season: 19p 8r 3a
Cousins this year: 27p 10.7r 5a

[apalisoc_9]

This could end up as a disaster for the pels but its was a no brainer.

They have two years to convince boogie to stay, but being the second best big is always a tough sell.

[Chillen]

At least there is another legit team in the West now. Davis/Cousins the Pelicans can build around that. They need to try and make the playoffs this season first, only a few games out right now. This was a gamble for this franchise, but hopefully Cousins doesn't turn into a cancer and plays well for them.

[Spurs9]

:lmao :lmao :wow knew he would be gone

[Chillen]

R.I.P Kings

I really do feel bad for that city and the fans, they deserve better it's been a mess for years all they want is the playoffs at this point and now another rebuild yet again.

[apalisoc_9]

If he doesnt stay, they lose two picks.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Can these two even coexist? I have serious doubts. Cousins is not exactly going to a better situation. You can argue that Joerger is a better coach than that black fella and while Davis is an elite talent, he's also made of glass.


I expect controversies and disappointments to flock Cousins in NOLA.

[Mark Celibate]

Cousins seems like one of the biggest headaches the league has ever seen but you have to take a chance on that kind of talent. Far and away the best center in the league to pair along with Anthony Davis? All of a sudden an irrelevant lottery team has turned into a potentially dangerous playoff team and will have many seasons to build around these two. Still a no brainer move for the Pelicans.

[Chillen]

If he doesnt stay, they lose two picks.

Well even with Cousins/Davis now if they don't make the playoffs this season they will have even more picks, lol.

[Canyonero]

What's the max Pels can offer Cousins this summer?

[-21-]

Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery... It could easily fail for several reasons (chemistry, egos, injuries, etc.) but like you said, it's a no-brainer. They got a superstar pretty much for free. Hield is 23 and hasn't looked good, Evans is the type of player who's talented but doesn't really fit in today's NBA, Galloway is a third-stringer, and their pick probably isn't even gonna be in the top 10. If it doesn't work out, they could always trade either one of Davis or Cousins for more pieces to surround the big they decide to stick with. Their worst case scenario (star/s becoming unhappy and leaving) hasn't really changed. I think it's a low-risk high-reward situation.

[StrengthAndHonor]

What's the max Pels can offer Cousins this summer?
Can't confirm but supposedly it's $50 million less.

[-21-]

Serious question though: Do the Lakers really believe Ingram is THAT good to not include him in a deal for Cousins? I know he's young and it's too early to give up on him but he's been really disappointing so far. Is his ceiling anywhere near Cousins?

[Fabbs]

Serious question though: Do the Lakers really believe Ingram is THAT good to not include him in a deal for Cousins? I know he's young and it's too early to give up on him but he's been really disappointing so far. Is his ceiling anywhere near Cousins?
Me too. Are the AIDs and Kobme brain trust really so incompetent they would not trade Ingram.
Or is Vlades dislike for the Flamers enough to veto any trade that would not greatly favor the Kings?

[spursistan]

This could end up as a disaster for the pels but its was a no brainer.

They have two years to convince boogie to stay, but being the second best big is always a tough sell.

Yeah, it is part heist, part gamble, which explains nobody is really scared of this outcome like they should in vaccum..Between AD fragility, Booggie cancerous attitude, lack of depth, and Gentry overall shitty track record as HC, they could only top out as 8th seed this season (5 games series max to GSW) and maybe 4th-5th seed next year before it all blows up in their face when he bolts elswhere..Still not a title contender..Chalk it up in "not worried here" column :lol..

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

What's the max Pels can offer Cousins this summer?

He won't be a FA this summer, he's signed until 2018.

[baseline bum]

Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...

What they had before was backfiring terribly. In the end they traded three nickels for a dollar.

[Canyonero]

He won't be a FA this summer, he's signed until 2018.

My bad

[ambchang]

Bigs need guards to facilitate and distribute.

Please me will win some games based on pure talent but will be an easy out in the first round in the playoffs.

[DMC]

I don't see Cousins changing his ways. The :cry in SAC will become the :cry in New Orleans.

[Mal]

You are fucking Dell Damps. You`ve got call from Divac, "Hey Dell, we want to trade Cousins, we want Hield, 1st round pick and whatever will make it worth under cap rules"
Would you ask for TOP 3 protection on this pick ?

[Clipper Nation]

I don't see Cousins changing his ways. The :cry in SAC will become the :cry in New Orleans.
At least he'll be :cry as the second option now instead of the first option.

[Mal]

Bigs need guards to facilitate and distribute.

Please me will win some games based on pure talent but will be an easy out in the first round in the playoffs.

They`ve got Solomon Hill for 13 mil

[Dverde]

Kings still can trade Rudy Gay and Tyreke Evans (maybe buyout) to get more assets. They need to call thatidiot Magics GM. Maybe they can get Jeff Green and a pick or Vusevic.

[LkrFan]

Boogie not leaving again, if he smart. He can re-sign for 5 years $179M with the Pelicans or sign somewhere else for about 5 years $139M. He already loss $30M by getting traded. If he leaves again, he forfeits $40M more? I don't see it.

Neal with it Spur Fans :downspin:

[Dverde]

Boogie will be the Pelicancer. Good luck!

[Mark Celibate]

Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...

I don't really see how it can get any worse for New Orleans. They were a lottery team to begin with and the worst case scenario is that they end up right back where they are without even taking into consideration the huge upside this deal has. Plus, in today's NBA, if you're the owner and you're not showing your superstar player that you care enough to build a contender, it's almost a guarantee the superstar will get fed up and leave to form a super team somewhere else. So this move not only could make them much better on paper, but it shows Anthony Davis that they're trying to build a winner.

My main worry is the coaching. Can Gentry keep Cousins in check and will he able to utilize the most talented front court in the NBA? This reminds me of the Lakers trade in 08 but there you had Phil Jackson who was guaranteed to find a way to make all that height work somehow.

[Mal]

Anybody else thinks that while it's a no-brainer for NOLA, this experiment can backfire terribly, tbh? Boogie was supposed to elevate the Kangs years ago, they've been nothing but trash, and AD, while putting up the numbers, was also leading NOLA straight to another lottery...

It was no brainer. Damps ass was/is on the line, Hield sucks and you are getting superstar for such package, you go for it. Even thought Boogie and Davis are same position, you do it, then try to make it work.

[HarlemHeat37]

It was no brainer. Damps ass was/is on the line, Hield sucks and you are getting superstar for such package, you go for it. Even thought Boogie and Davis are same position, you do it, then try to make it work.

Yep..there's a pretty decent chance that it won't work, but it's a no-brainer..they're a non-playoff team that didn't give up a single high-level asset:lol

I believe Cousins has some real mental issues, but he wouldn't be the first guy to turn his career around in a different environment..it's very possible that he could become Z-Bo..

[baseline bum]

I don't really see how it can get any worse for New Orleans. They were a lottery team to begin with and the worst case scenario is that they end up right back where they are without even taking into consideration the huge upside this deal has. Plus, in today's NBA, if you're the owner and you're not showing your superstar player that you care enough to build a contender, it's almost a guarantee the superstar will get fed up and leave to form a super team somewhere else. So this move not only could make them much better on paper, but it shows Anthony Davis that they're trying to build a winner.

My main worry is the coaching. Can Gentry keep Cousins in check and will he able to utilize the most talented front court in the NBA? This reminds me of the Lakers trade in 08 but there you had Phil Jackson who was guaranteed to find a way to make all that height work somehow.

Davis leaving isn't really a concern, as he is under contract until the summer of 2020 (when he has a player option). The real worry is wasting his prime. But yeah, this deal has incredible upside and all the only asset that has much value that they lost was a likely mid first round pick. How is Vlade Divac keeping that job getting a return like that for the best center in the league?

[spursistan]

I don't really see how it can get any worse for New Orleans. They were a lottery team to begin with and the worst case scenario is that they end up right back where they are without even taking into consideration the huge upside this deal has. Plus, in today's NBA, if you're the owner and you're not showing your superstar player that you care enough to build a contender, it's almost a guarantee the superstar will get fed up and leave to form a super team somewhere else. So this move not only could make them much better on paper, but it shows Anthony Davis that they're trying to build a winner.

My main worry is the coaching. Can Gentry keep Cousins in check and will he able to utilize the most talented front court in the NBA? This reminds me of the Lakers trade in 08 but there you had Phil Jackson who was guaranteed to find a way to make all that height work somehow.

Calipari or Jeff Van Gundy will be coaching that team by 2018..

[baseline bum]

I believe Cousins has some real mental issues, but he wouldn't be the first guy to turn his career around in a different environment..it's very possible that he could become Z-Bo..

Or Rasheed

[Darth_Pelican]

Pels are still looking to make moves. Terrance Jones in on the trading block. They are probably looking for a shooter.

Hopefully this move convinces Jrue Holiday to re-sign with the Pels this summer. Build around AD, Jrue, and Boogie. And move on from Gentry.

[Mal]

Pels are still looking to make moves. Terrance Jones in on the trading block. They are probably looking for a shooter.

Hopefully this move convinces Jrue Holiday to re-sign with the Pels this summer. Build around AD, Jrue, and Boogie. And move on from Gentry.

Better chance to find one in d-league that gettin in trade for Jones

[Mark Celibate]

Davis leaving isn't really a concern, as he is under contract until the summer of 2020 (when he has a player option). The real worry is wasting his prime. But yeah, this deal has incredible upside and all the only asset that has much value that they lost was a likely mid first round pick. How is Vlade Divac keeping that job getting a return like that for the best center in the league?


It's hard to say what kind of value Cousins had on the trade market. He's still a guy I would be wary of if I had a pretty good team and the only way to make a trade would be to give up an all star caliber player. There's no way I could have him be the team leader, he'd have to be a second banana but his ego might not even take it. With all that said, I can somewhat understand why Divac got fleeced atleast on paper. Cousins is possibly one more cancerous run away from getting Greg Hardy'ed from the NBA. I would hate to have to play with a guy like that.

He seems a lot more unstable/immature then past crazy guys like Rasheed, Z-bo, and even Rodman.

[Darth_Pelican]

Better chance to find one in d-league that gettin in trade for Jones

Yeah I'm not expecting anything special for Jones. But the team did just lose 2 SGs so they need someone that can hit open 3s when teams are trying to deal with AD & Cousins simultaneously.

[Darth_Pelican]

Yep..there's a pretty decent chance that it won't work, but it's a no-brainer..they're a non-playoff team that didn't give up a single high-level asset:lol

I believe Cousins has some real mental issues, but he wouldn't be the first guy to turn his career around in a different environment..it's very possible that he could become Z-Bo..

That's my hope. He just looked miserable as fuck playing in Sacramento. Maybe he's just a miserable person. We'll see.

[Dex]

I don't see Cousins changing his ways. The :cry in SAC will become the :cry in New Orleans.

Winning does a lot to cure :cry. He probably wouldn't have been such a headcase if he hadn't been stuck on a shit team his whole career.

Whether the Pels can build a winning environment around him, now that's the question.

[Mal]

It gotta be about making Kings so bad, that the franchise will move. It`s not even "The process vol 2" or tank.

[Killakobe81]

League execs thought Buddy Hield has a higher ceiling than Julius Randle.

Lakers young talent:lol

Yep SD that Randle hasn't shown more he, Clarkson and Nance Jr should be leating Russ and Ingram who are babies ...

[Killakobe81]

Bigs need guards to facilitate and distribute.

Please me will win some games based on pure talent but will be an easy out in the first round in the playoffs.

This.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

This.

While it's likely, it's not always like that... remember 2011 1st vs. 8 matchup? Buttery motion offense vs. force feed the post with mediocre guard play... which one won?

[Mark Celibate]

While it's likely, it's not always like that... remember 2011 1st vs. 8 matchup? Buttery motion offense vs. force feed the post with mediocre guard play... which one won?

It definitely has the potential of being a good series due to the monstrous advantage they'd have inside but there's a few differences between 2011 and this year. The Pelicans roster, outside of Davis and Cousins, is straight garbage and I can't trust anybody on that team to take big shots in the playoffs. The Grizzlies atleast had Conley, Allen, and Battier to compliment their frontcourt. The Pelicans have nobody else.

Also, Randolph was the best player on the court at all times and SA's offense struggled when the game slowed down. The Warriors atleast have Curry, Durant, and Thompson with nobody to slow them down at all on defense.

[DJR210]

I really do feel bad for that city and the fans, they deserve better it's been a mess for years all they want is the playoffs at this point and now another rebuild yet again.

Agreed. They had the best home court advantage in the league IMO back when they had Peja, Webber, Williams.. They've got some very passionate fans, it's a damn shame management has no vision of where they want to take their team building process.

[Killakobe81]

It definitely has the potential of being a good series due to the monstrous advantage they'd have inside but there's a few differences between 2011 and this year. The Pelicans roster, outside of Davis and Cousins, is straight garbage and I can't trust anybody on that team to take big shots in the playoffs. The Grizzlies atleast had Conley, Allen, and Battier to compliment their frontcourt. The Pelicans have nobody else.

Also, Randolph was the best player on the court at all times and SA's offense struggled when the game slowed down. The Warriors atleast have Curry, Durant, and Thompson with nobody to slow them down at all on defense.

This ..

[Splits]

833780498589638656

:lmao Vlad

[Mal]

833780498589638656

:lmao Vlad

I fucking knew it, it`s about moving Kings from Sacramento. That`s the process

[Will Hunting]

While it's likely, it's not always like that... remember 2011 1st vs. 8 matchup? Buttery motion offense vs. force feed the post with mediocre guard play... which one won?
That 2011 Spurs team was a shittier than usual 1 seed. The Warriors aren't giving major minutes to players like Bonner Blair and Gary Neal.

[Chucho]

LOL. Twin Towers do not win in this league anymore.

This is nothing more than a big-guy version of Maurbury and Francis- some decent stats on bad teams and no balls or winning ability whatsoever. This isn't going to work and new Orleans has such a shitty roster aside from two bigs that produce nice stats, but haven't done anything in the league aside from an ugly unibrow, an over inflated ASG MVP and lots of bad press.

[ambchang]

Kings are horrible. They could have traded cousins for much more earlier. They didn't.

They could have stuck with cousins and actually built a decent team. They didn't.

They could've kept Malone who actually worked well with cousins. They fired him because of that idiot of an owner.

They then lied about not looking to trade.

Then again the agent about cousins be their future.

On top of that, they just yielded to the Sacramento bee.

Finally they pulled a trade that is so bad a video game engine wouldn't do it.

http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/20/14669142/demarcus-cousins-trade-nba-2k17-sacramento-kings

RAnadive is horrible. He's like a retarded version of mark Cuban.

[TheSanityAnnex]

First time in my life I have stopped following a team that has not been relocated.

Looks like I will be following the Pelicans and then whatever team Cousins decides to sign with in free agency.

I didn't think ownership could get worse after the Maloofs but I was wrong. Fuck you Vivek, I look forward to watching your team continue to fail as you try and replicate the Warriors.

[ElNono]

Yeah, I'm not dissing the value of the trade, which was a steal, tbh... Pels basically had to pull the trigger when an owner decided to gang-rape himself...

I'm just reading all this stuff on how these guys are supposed to be insta-contenders now, and the Dubs should be worried... I can completely see this not working out due to egos, lack of experience, bad coaching, poor surrounding cast, etc.

Boogie especially will have to adapt to the fact that his coach-killing ways might now not be taken as lightly as they did in Sacto.

[illusioNtEk]

Lakers :lol
thats what you fucking get for being trolls... don't fucking play it off and say glad he didn't come LOL gtfotta here

[SpursforSix]

Yeah, I'm not dissing the value of the trade, which was a steal, tbh... Pels basically had to pull the trigger when an owner decided to gang-rape himself...

I'm just reading all this stuff on how these guys are supposed to be insta-contenders now, and the Dubs should be worried... I can completely see this not working out due to egos, lack of experience, bad coaching, poor surrounding cast, etc.

Boogie especially will have to adapt to the fact that his coach-killing ways might now not be taken as lightly as they did in Sacto.

Definitely a high risk / high reward trade. I think the main risk being that he screws up the team or at the least, doesn't put them among the top teams in the West next year. Still gotta add some other pieces though.

[HarlemHeat37]

Definitely a high risk / high reward trade. I think the main risk being that he screws up the team or at the least, doesn't put them among the top teams in the West next year. Still gotta add some other pieces though.

It's not high risk, at all:lol

They were an irrelevant team, what did they have to lose? Buddy Hield?

[SpursforSix]

It's not high risk, at all:lol

They were an irrelevant team, what did they have to lose? Buddy Hield?

Yeah...it is high risk if he makes it so bad that AD is unhappy. They're going to have to make a decision to re-sign him (Cousins) for a shitload of money. If this doesn't work, it could fuck the team for years.
It was a no brainer though.

[illusioNtEk]

I feel bad for kings fans.... I think this is the first step to move the team to another city.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

It definitely has the potential of being a good series due to the monstrous advantage they'd have inside but there's a few differences between 2011 and this year. The Pelicans roster, outside of Davis and Cousins, is straight garbage and I can't trust anybody on that team to take big shots in the playoffs. The Grizzlies atleast had Conley, Allen, and Battier to compliment their frontcourt. The Pelicans have nobody else.

Also, Randolph was the best player on the court at all times and SA's offense struggled when the game slowed down. The Warriors atleast have Curry, Durant, and Thompson with nobody to slow them down at all on defense.

As we saw last year though... the buttery stuff, particularly with the Splash Bros. can really struggle when an opponent makes a concerted effort to keep everything slow, halfcourt, and play physical defense.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That 2011 Spurs team was a shittier than usual 1 seed. The Warriors aren't giving major minutes to players like Bonner Blair and Gary Neal.
We started off a gaudy 46-9 but then the injuries hit big time, finished the season a shitty 15-12 for a combined 61-21 and Manu broke his arm. It was an all time great Spurs team prior to that, though.

I was awfully close to protesting the result of that series and intentionally bombing the TAKS test I had to take the morning after we got eliminated that year, tbh.

[Mal]

Yeah...it is high risk if he makes it so bad that AD is unhappy. They're going to have to make a decision to re-sign him (Cousins) for a shitload of money. If this doesn't work, it could fuck the team for years.
It was a no brainer though.

They have 1,5 season to try to figure it out. Davis is stuck with them, Boogie kinda too, cause if he don`t sign extension with Pels, he`ll be down 70 mil on his next deal. That`s a lot of pressure for sure, a lot of things can go wrong there. I don`t think Gentry is the coach that`s gonna get this shit together, no one available really comes to mind that could make this work.


I don`t think Kings fans, all two of them that left after this, will gonna live if somehow Pels missed playoff, and their pick will be TOP 3, and fels back to Pels

[SpursforSix]

They have 1,5 season to try to figure it out. Davis is stuck with them, Boogie kinda too, cause if he don`t sign extension with Pels, he`ll be down 70 mil on his next deal. That`s a lot of pressure for sure, a lot of things can go wrong there. I don`t think Gentry is the coach that`s gonna get this shit together, no one available really comes to mind that could make this work.


I don`t think Kings fans, all two of them that left after this, will gonna live if somehow Pels missed playoff, and their pick will be TOP 3, and fels back to Pels

I heard that it was "only" a $40,000,000 difference. But big money either way for him. Maybe the change of scenery is good for him but we haven't seen any indication that he's got an alternative Boogie waiting to come out and play nice.
I haven't watched them enough to know if AD is someone that can lead a team and get him to fall in line. I agree with you that Gentry does not seem like the guy to make this work. Especially if things start to get dicey.

[Clipper Nation]

I fucking knew it, it`s about moving Kings from Sacramento. That`s the process

It's not that. They literally just built a new arena in Sacramento, they aren't leaving anytime soon. This is all about Vivek Ranadive and his penis envy for the Warriors. They drafted Stauskas because Vivek thought he was the new Curry. They traded for Hield because Vivek thinks he's the new Curry. Rumor is that Vivek finally acquiesced to trading Cousins when Cousins cussed out a group of Warriors fans in the stands after a game against them. You can't make that shit up :lol

[Killakobe81]

Lakers :lol
thats what you fucking get for being trolls... don't fucking play it off and say glad he didn't come LOL gtfotta here

Who is saying that? I would want him but get why we wanted to keep Ingram ...Lakers better be right about Ingram. But at the moment I understand why they held firm.

[Killakobe81]

They have 1,5 season to try to figure it out. Davis is stuck with them, Boogie kinda too, cause if he don`t sign extension with Pels, he`ll be down 70 mil on his next deal. That`s a lot of pressure for sure, a lot of things can go wrong there. I don`t think Gentry is the coach that`s gonna get this shit together, no one available really comes to mind that could make this work.


I don`t think Kings fans, all two of them that left after this, will gonna live if somehow Pels missed playoff, and their pick will be TOP 3, and fels back to Pels

My understanding pelic as ns can only offer an Extra year no super max like Davis got ...

[SpursforSix]

My understanding pelic as ns can only offer an Extra year no super max like Davis got ...

I think you're right.

Per ESPN:

Cousins, 26, would have been eligible to sign a five-year, $209 million extension with the Kings this summer had he stayed in Sacramento and has spoken openly for weeks about his desire to spend his entire career there, despite the club's decadelong playoff drought.

[MultiTroll]

^^^^
both correct.
Here is a summary from a Yahoo write on the $$ subject and what teams may have been thinking:

<Part of the reason for the Cousins market being dry is that since he is traded, Cousins is no longer eligible for the “designated player” supermax deal (http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/20/demarcus-cousins-projects-to-miss-out-on-at-least-29-87-million-due-to-trade/), and the difference between what the team that has his Bird rights in 2018 can offer and what other teams can offer is not that great. Which is to say, a lot of teams think they can take a swing at Cousins as a free agent in two summers if they really want him, and they don’t have to give up assets to get him.>

Appears the Kings may have gotten much better offers for Cousins before the 2017 season started.
Quite a screw up. I don't if it's Vlade or moreso the dumb owner.

[SpursforSix]

^^^^
both correct.
Here is a summary from a Yahoo write on the $$ subject and what teams may have been thinking:

<Part of the reason for the Cousins market being dry is that since he is traded, Cousins is no longer eligible for the “designated player” supermax deal (http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/20/demarcus-cousins-projects-to-miss-out-on-at-least-29-87-million-due-to-trade/), and the difference between what the team that has his Bird rights in 2018 can offer and what other teams can offer is not that great. Which is to say, a lot of teams think they can take a swing at Cousins as a free agent in two summers if they really want him, and they don’t have to give up assets to get him.>

Appears the Kings may have gotten much better offers for Cousins before the 2017 season started.
Quite a screw up. I don't if it's Vlade or moreso the dumb owner.

Vlade said they even had a better offer 2 days ago.

[SpursIndonesia]

It could easily fail for several reasons (chemistry, egos, injuries, etc.) but like you said, it's a no-brainer. They got a superstar pretty much for free. Hield is 23 and hasn't looked good, Evans is the type of player who's talented but doesn't really fit in today's NBA, Galloway is a third-stringer, and their pick probably isn't even gonna be in the top 10. If it doesn't work out, they could always trade either one of Davis or Cousins for more pieces to surround the big they decide to stick with. Their worst case scenario (star/s becoming unhappy and leaving) hasn't really changed. I think it's a low-risk high-reward situation.

Agreed, the key now is Jrue Holliday, he simply has to stay healthy. He is the type of PG that can feed both big men in the paint. If that's well covered, Boogie will be happy which translate into winning, and Davis back playing PF means less injury risk & wear-tear. All of those is great recipe to be the new contender out of the west.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Yep SD that Randle hasn't shown more he, Clarkson and Nance Jr should be leating Russ and Ingram who are babies ...


Holy crap. If true:lol

While the deal was never finalized, reports had the Lakers offering both their first round picks that year, which became D'Angelo Russell (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2462/dangelo-russell) (No. 2) and Larry Nance (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2521/larry-nance) Jr. (27th), plus a few other pieces.


Kings owner Vivek Ranadive shot the deal down then — as he did with every deal until Sunday night (http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/20/report-kings-agree-to-trade-demarcus-cousin-to-pelicans-for-buddy-hield-several-picks/). thanks

[Robz4000]

It definitely has the potential of being a good series due to the monstrous advantage they'd have inside but there's a few differences between 2011 and this year. The Pelicans roster, outside of Davis and Cousins, is straight garbage and I can't trust anybody on that team to take big shots in the playoffs. The Grizzlies atleast had Conley, Allen, and Battier to compliment their frontcourt. The Pelicans have nobody else.

Also, Randolph was the best player on the court at all times and SA's offense struggled when the game slowed down. The Warriors atleast have Curry, Durant, and Thompson with nobody to slow them down at all on defense.

Jrue Holiday is a damn good defender from the PG position and 6'5" to boot; he can competently guard Curry or Thompson at least to a degree. They truly have no answer for the other one and no one who can guard Durant (who can win that series by himself, most likely).

[Splits]

My understanding pelic as ns can only offer an Extra year no super max like Davis got ...

wtf is this giberrish?

lol 30k+ posts and can't type a coherent sentence.

[DPG21920]

Jrue Holiday is a damn good defender from the PG position and 6'5" to boot; he can competently guard Curry or Thompson at least to a degree. They truly have no answer for the other one and no one who can guard Durant (who can win that series by himself, most likely).

There is a 1% chance that NO can beat GS (they have to make the playoffs first). But this is the first season and they have two mega high-usage players now which always takes time.

But the problems GS has with skilled bigs is not a joke. Almost every loss they have this year (very few) have come at the hands of skilled bigs. GS has a Death Star like weakness. Its not big and odds are they destroy the universe but big men are the only way they can be beaten.

It's why SA stayed big with LMA/Pau. GS has no one that can guard Boogie/AD at all. Durant will be worn the hell out and as great as Draymond is, there is only one of him.

They will likely have to double a lot and that is the right call with the lack of shooting on NO at the moment. However, Boogie/AD can both pass and beat doubles and spread the floor. It will be interesting to say the least.

[Robz4000]

There is a 1% chance that NO can beat GS (they have to make the playoffs first). But this is the first season and they have two mega high-usage players now which always takes time.

But the problems GS has with skilled bigs is not a joke. Almost every loss they have this year (very few) have come at the hands of skilled bigs. GS has a Death Star like weakness. Its not big and odds are they destroy the universe but big men are the only way they can be beaten.

It's why SA stayed big with LMA/Pau. GS has no one that can guard Boogie/AD at all. Durant will be worn the hell out and as great as Draymond is, there is only one of him.

They will likely have to double a lot and that is the right call with the lack of shooting on NO at the moment. However, Boogie/AD can both pass and beat doubles and spread the floor. It will be interesting to say the least.

Their odds are definitely better than 1% since GS' depth situation is even worse. Obviously a lot depends on how well Boogie and Brow mesh together, but even if the cohesion won't really be there yet they'll have a solid 25% shot to get it done (especially when you consider GS' choking habits and the fact one of Davis/Cousins will be on the floor at all times to attack the rim). Pels also have DMo whose already slain Curry once before...

[apalisoc_9]

The Pelicans have zero chance against the warriors...Silly boys. :lol

[DPG21920]

The Pelicans have zero chance against the warriors...Silly boys. :lol

I will stick with 1%. 0% implies a sweep. 1% to me implies they have the talent to exploit GS weaknesses and make things a little tough but definitely not enough to take 4 games.

[apalisoc_9]

It's not going to be easy chasing the Nuggets even if they're only two games up the standings. I think they have the 6thh best record in 2017 in the west...better than OKC. IIRC.

They're winning more than losing.

Top 5 offense since they committed to jokic

[DPG21920]

It's not going to be easy chasing the Nuggets even if they're only two games up the standings. I think they have the 6thh best record in 2017 in the west...better than OKC. IIRC.

They're winning more than losing.

Top 5 offense since they committed to jokic

For sure, but the thing with Denver to watch is the trade deadline. They have been rumored to be interested in moving Faried, Gallo, Wilson and they already moved Nurkic. Them losing depth could hurt them but we will see. They have played well and do have some young talent to replace those possibly leaving.

[Robz4000]

It's not going to be easy chasing the Nuggets even if they're only two games up the standings. I think they have the 6thh best record in 2017 in the west...better than OKC. IIRC.

They're winning more than losing.

Top 5 offense since they committed to jokic

They have three games left against the Nuggets luckily (with two in NO iirc). If they win all three they'll take it especially if the Nuggets trade Chandler/Gallinari/Barton/etc.

[Mark Celibate]

Jrue Holiday is a damn good defender from the PG position and 6'5" to boot; he can competently guard Curry or Thompson at least to a degree. They truly have no answer for the other one and no one who can guard Durant (who can win that series by himself, most likely).



I see.

Take my opinion like a grain of salt. Truthfully, I haven't even watched an entire NBA game in years. Most of what I say on here I just pull out of my buttcheeks.

[Mark Celibate]

*with a grain of salt

dang it

[Robz4000]

I see.

Take my opinion like a grain of salt. Truthfully, I haven't even watched an entire NBA game in years. Most of what I say on here I just pull out of my buttcheeks.

Which is better than 95% of this place tbh. Glad you're back to posting my dude.

[Mal]

My understanding pelic as ns can only offer an Extra year no super max like Davis got ...

I believe there is this DPA max 5 yrs/209 which I not an option. There is normal max 5/179 for teams with bird rights. UFA can sign 5/139 with other team. I read somewhere that is the case

[spursistan]

833966670926454784

[Ice009]

I really do feel bad for that city and the fans, they deserve better it's been a mess for years all they want is the playoffs at this point and now another rebuild yet again.

Why did the Maloofs sell the team? Anyone follow the Kings enough to know?

[StrengthAndHonor]

833966670926454784
Cousins' agent is absolutely clueless tbh.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Cousins' agent is absolutely clueless tbh.

Why? He didn't want Cousins to be traded. He wanted that super max extension. That's his job. Cousins is getting less money now whether he stays in NO or leaves.

[Clipper Nation]

Cousins is getting less money now whether he stays in NO or leaves.

But the Pelicans own his Bird Rights and have Anthony Davis locked up through 2020. If Cousins walks away from that to join the Lakers' dumpster fire for even less money, he's one of the biggest losers in NBA history.

[SpursforSix]

But the Pelicans own his Bird Rights and have Anthony Davis locked up through 2020. If Cousins walks away from that to join the Lakers' dumpster fire for even less money, he's one of the biggest losers in NBA history.

If Cousins walks away from NO, it'll be because the team doesn't get anywhere with him. Which I think will be further confirmation that he really is a problem player. Which I guess makes the Lakers the perfect destination.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

But the Pelicans own his Bird Rights and have Anthony Davis locked up through 2020. If Cousins walks away from that to join the Lakers' dumpster fire for even less money, he's one of the biggest losers in NBA history.

Meh, doubt the agent really meant going to the Lakers in 2018 seriously, it was more like : don't trade for him because he won't re-sign for you. NO called the bluff and Cousins can't get the $209 mil now, however, when they put that $170-180 mil extension on the table it'll be very difficult for him to walk away.

[Chillen]

The Pelicans have zero chance against the warriors...Silly boys. :lol

Well I can say the Spurs were stupid not trying to trade for Cousins. I don't know how good the Pelicans will be this year (they still have to try and make the playoffs) but next season they have a chance to be really good, the ceiling is high. Before this trade you had a Warriors/Spurs-Clippers potential WCF, now the West is shaken up a little. I like it for the game, the Pelicans could be a force next season. As for this season they still have to try and make the playoffs, depending how the chemistry comes along they have potential to be a dangerous 7th,8th seed.

[Mr. Body]

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Might be included in what Divacs was saying about character matters. Player and agent are assholes.

[Mr. Body]

But the Pelicans own his Bird Rights and have Anthony Davis locked up through 2020. If Cousins walks away from that to join the Lakers' dumpster fire for even less money, he's one of the biggest losers in NBA history.

Cousins is already a big fucking loser. You think he cares about winning?

[SpursforSix]

Cousins is already a big fucking loser. You think he cares about winning?

I think he cares about winning. But maybe not to the extent that he's going to change his ways. He obviously didn't care enough about it to try to make himself a leader in Sacramento. The question is will he at least fall in line in New Orleans.
But I do think he wants to win as long as he doesn't have to put any thought into it. He might turn out to be a great second banana. On the other hand, if they don't become a contender, I think he'll get worn out by the NO press and fans.

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:cry:cry:cry

[Mr. Body]

I think he cares about winning. But maybe not to the extent that he's going to change his ways. He obviously didn't care enough about it to try to make himself a leader in Sacramento. The question is will he at least fall in line in New Orleans.
But I do think he wants to win as long as he doesn't have to put any thought into it. He might turn out to be a great second banana. On the other hand, if they don't become a contender, I think he'll get worn out by the NO press and fans.

He cares about winning about as much as Carmelo Anthony does.

[SpursforSix]

He cares about winning about as much as Carmelo Anthony does.

That's a fair comparison.

[AlexJones]

Top 10 team. Not even kidding.

[Chinook]

Top 10 team. Not even kidding.

Well they were 11th before this deal, so.

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Yeah I'm not expecting anything special for Jones. But the team did just lose 2 SGs so they need someone that can hit open 3s when teams are trying to deal with AD & Cousins simultaneously.

They should also see what they can get for Cunningham/Frazier/Asik. Like Jones, Cunningham doesn't really fit anymore. Maybe sell high on Frazier as he's a ball-dominant PG which is not as necessary with the arrival of Cousins. Get rid of Asik anyway they can. As you said, they need to surround Davis and Cousins with shooters.

Also :lol at Vivek thinking Hield has "Steph Curry potential"

[spursistan]

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[spursistan]

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rofl

[baseline bum]

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rofl

How can such a talented player in his physical prime be such a cancer? On paper this Pelicans team should be fucking devastating.

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How can such a talented player in his physical prime be such a cancer? On paper this Pelicans team should be fucking devastating.realistically cousins didn't fix any of the problems on the pels team (guard and wing play)

If i was the Pels GM i would've tried to see what teams would offer for Cousins as soon as I got him.

[Pelicans78]

Cousins and Davis are both overrated. Not close to being superstars or the best player on a championship team. However, Pelicans also have shitty wing players and Jrue Holiday is good, but not that good.

[baseline bum]

realistically cousins didn't fix any of the problems on the pels team (guard and wing play)

If i was the Pels GM i would've tried to see what teams would offer for Cousins as soon as I got him.

The Spurs won a title with Avery Johnson, Mario Elie, and a Sean Elliott getting dialysis as their wings. Not saying Davis+Cousins should ever be Duncan+Robinson, but those two are talented enough that they should be at least be taking that team to a playoff berth in the weakest western conference we have seen in years.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol I still can't believe so many people thought this team would immediately dominate..that's not how it works, especially a mid-season trade on a team that was already garbage..

As I said earlier in the thread, this was a move for next season..

[spursistan]

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Cousins = Cancer

[Mr. Body]

Cousins is a piece of shit. Pels guaranteed to be worthless for the next few years. They'll still beat the Spurs, tho'.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why dont they try playing with 3 bigs?

ad is mobile enough to play on the perimeter, if bucks can play greek guy at pg, I don't see why ad cant...even though that's not his game, but his big enough to take a few steps back to play defense and still make it up when he attempts to block with his size...

[Raven]

How can such a talented player in his physical prime be such a cancer? On paper this Pelicans team should be fucking devastating.

how :lol they literally have 3 nba level players

[Darth_Pelican]

Pelicans 5-1 in past 6 games. I figured AD and Cousins would struggle together for the first 5-10 games before starting to gel. They are 3.5 games behind Denver and they play them 3 times. Pels will have to win all 3 of those games to climb to the 8th seed. I see them falling short, and if that means that Gentry won't be back, I'd prefer that happen.

[Ghazi]

they're gonna lose the next 3 games.

[Ice009]

Pelicans 5-1 in past 6 games. I figured AD and Cousins would struggle together for the first 5-10 games before starting to gel. They are 3.5 games behind Denver and they play them 3 times. Pels will have to win all 3 of those games to climb to the 8th seed. I see them falling short, and if that means that Gentry won't be back, I'd prefer that happen.

What did you think about Monty Williams as a coach? I think he unjustly got fired. I thought they told him if they made the playoffs that he would retain his job? Is that true? What exactly happened?

I've never been a fan of Gentry, but he was decent in Phoenix. I thought that Monty was a pretty good coach too. What are your thoughts on the two?

I'd really like to see the Pelicans make the playoffs. I like both Denver and the Pelicans, but I think it would be more fun to see AD and Boogie go against the Warriors as I'd love to see how the Warriors try and handle them, especially with the Warriors weakness in the middle, would be interesting to see.

[Darth_Pelican]

What did you think about Monty Williams as a coach? I think he unjustly got fired. I thought they told him if they made the playoffs that he would retain his job? Is that true? What exactly happened?

I've never been a fan of Gentry, but he was decent in Phoenix. I thought that Monty was a pretty good coach too. What are your thoughts on the two?

I'd really like to see the Pelicans make the playoffs. I like both Denver and the Pelicans, but I think it would be more fun to see AD and Boogie go against the Warriors as I'd love to see how the Warriors try and handle them, especially with the Warriors weakness in the middle, would be interesting to see.

I was never a fan of Monty but he's certainly better than Gentry has been. The Nuggets keep winning so I don't see the Pelicans catching them this season.