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140
02-23-2017, 11:57 AM
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Hopefully it's not this years 1st, tbh

140
02-23-2017, 12:00 PM
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UNT Eagles 2016
02-23-2017, 12:01 PM
Cubes still on tilt over Trump getting elected, #stillasshurt :lol

Splits
02-23-2017, 12:02 PM
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So not this year.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:02 PM
What a terrible trade.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:04 PM
So not this year.

Well, that helps I guess. Did they really prefer Noel over Okafor? While everyone else plays checkers, Cuban and Donnie are playing "fumble with your own dicks".

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 12:04 PM
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Hopefully it's not this years 1st, tbh

Well seems like a lot at a glance for a big not heavy in Sixers rotation but RC seems to be better at developing reclamation projects than rookies...he is like a younger bogut with less passing. Sixers get another first a mentor for Embid? Plus a replacement when his knee is iffy?

clambake
02-23-2017, 12:05 PM
he's the dancer, right?

Spurs9
02-23-2017, 12:05 PM
Guess they are keeping Okafor?

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 12:05 PM
Guess they are keeping Okafor?

Probably not ...but who knows?!

140
02-23-2017, 12:07 PM
Well seems like a lot at a glance for a big not heavy in Sixers rotation but RC seems to be better at developing reclamation projects than rookies...he is like a younger bogut with less passing. Sixers get another first a mentor for Embid? Plus a replacement when his knee is iffy?
I'd be surprised if they keep Bogut tbh

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 12:07 PM
Well, that helps I guess. Did they really prefer Noel over Okafor? While everyone else plays checkers, Cuban and Donnie are playing "fumble with your own dicks".

Okafor gives you a lot of the same as Barnes iso from low and mid to high post ....maybe they wanted defense instead oak aforementioned is,the much better post player but Noel is a defender

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:09 PM
Okafor gives you a lot of the same as Barnes iso from low and mid to high post ....maybe they wanted defense instead oak aforementioned is,the much better post player but Noel is a defender

Noel is a poor man's Deandre Jordan, while Okafor has star potential still. Noel is safer, but way lower ceiling. Would rather see them swing for the fences instead of taking a walk.

140
02-23-2017, 12:10 PM
What a terrible trade.
The pick is the only thing that hurts imo tbh...I'm not high on Noel but I think RC can maybe get more out of him than he'd ever get out of Anderson

Mark Celibate
02-23-2017, 12:12 PM
I'm ok with it. I've sat through 15 years of mostly stiffs at the position so anytime we get an athletic, shot blocking center it's atleast more fun to watch.

With the pick being protected, this trade doesn't look that bad. Am I missing something, 'b1k? Or should we have gone after Okafor instead?

DAF86
02-23-2017, 12:12 PM
Well, that helps I guess. Did they really prefer Noel over Okafor? While everyone else plays checkers, Cuban and Donnie are playing "fumble with your own dicks".

Remember when you preffered Jefferson over Chandler? Maybe this is the same case, tbh. I don't see Okafor being anything special in the future.

140
02-23-2017, 12:14 PM
Also the fact that his contract is up at the end of the season kinda sucks because he'll command a shitload and if we don't pay him we will have traded a pick for nothing

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:16 PM
Also the fact that his contract is up at the end of the season kinda sucks because he'll command a shitload and if we don't pay him we will have traded a pick for nothing

I think he's restricted tbh

140
02-23-2017, 12:19 PM
I think he's restricted tbh
Yeah he is but teams are probably gonna throw cash at him. How much its really gonna depend on how he performs the rest of the season I guess

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 12:19 PM
Remember when you preffered Jefferson over Chandler? Maybe this is the same case, tbh. I don't see Okafor being anything special in the future.

Special and star are probably stretches I think oak can be effective in right system ...his post game is smooth... that pnr defense is atrocious though

baseline bum
02-23-2017, 12:22 PM
How long is the protection on the pick though? Because a core of Barnes + Noel + Matthews ain't getting them to the playoffs.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:25 PM
How long is the protection on the pick though? Because a core of Barnes + Noel + Matthews ain't getting them to the playoffs.

I think it's gone next season, so Dallas needs to tank hard now tbh. Time for Barnes to have a 3 month hamstring injury. And for Dirk to pad his career points total by taking 20 shots a night.

DAF86
02-23-2017, 12:27 PM
Special and star are probably stretches I think oak can be effective in right system ...his post game is smooth... that part defense is atrocious though

The only chance a guy like Okafor has of being "effective" is if he reaches all-star level. Mediocre/just good ofensive minded bigmen, with poor defense, don't make for effective pieces on winning teams, tbh.

baseline bum
02-23-2017, 12:29 PM
I think it's gone next season, so Dallas needs to tank hard now tbh. Time for Barnes to have a 3 month hamstring injury. And for Dirk to pad his career points total by taking 20 shots a night.

That's an awful trade then. Noel's a nice player but one year of lottery protection for a guy Philly didn't even want and who is going to be seeking a max contract is way too steep a price. I hope Dallas negotiated three years of protection on that pick and it just hasn't been reported, because anything more than a mid first rounder is way too much to spend.

clambake
02-23-2017, 12:30 PM
happy days are here again

140
02-23-2017, 12:34 PM
How long is the protection on the pick though? Because a core of Barnes + Noel + Matthews ain't getting them to the playoffs.
From reddit: 'Heard on ESPN that it's 1-18 protected in 2017, lottery protected in 2018, and if not conveyed yet, drops to a 2nd round pick in 2019.'

Might be bullshit though

baseline bum
02-23-2017, 12:46 PM
From reddit: 'Heard on ESPN that it's 1-18 protected in 2017, lottery protected in 2018, and if not conveyed yet, drops to a 2nd round pick in 2019.'

Might be bullshit though

That sounds way too good to be true, but that's a complete steal if so.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:46 PM
From reddit: 'Heard on ESPN that it's 1-18 protected in 2017, lottery protected in 2018, and if not conveyed yet, drops to a 2nd round pick in 2019.'

Might be bullshit though

That would make this trade look a whole lot better tbh. Still a shit trade, but better.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:50 PM
The only chance a guy like Okafor has of being "effective" is if he reaches all-star level. Mediocre/just good ofensive minded bigmen, with poor defense, don't make for effective pieces on winning teams, tbh.

Dude is 21, in his second season, on one of the most poorly managed teams in sports history, and you're talking like he's on the verge of being washed up.

baseline bum
02-23-2017, 12:53 PM
That would make this trade look a whole lot better tbh. Still a shit trade, but better.

How would a second rounder for Noel be a shit trade? No way Dallas is making the playoffs next season unless they go out and sign Blake Griffin or something in the offseason, in which case it would be a mid 20s pick at best.

DAF86
02-23-2017, 12:55 PM
Dude is 21, in his second season, on one of the most poorly managed teams in sports history, and you're talking like he's on the verge of being washed up.

Not at all, just a gut feeling, tbh.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:57 PM
How would a second rounder for Noel be a shit trade? No way Dallas is making the playoffs next season unless they go out and sign Blake Griffin or something in the offseason, in which case it would be a mid 20s pick at best.

I just wish they had gone after something better than this, or chosen to sell off players and tank completely. This is more of Cuban staying on the Treadmill Of Mediocrity.

140
02-23-2017, 12:58 PM
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monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 12:59 PM
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Okay, that's a relief.

spurraider21
02-23-2017, 01:01 PM
noel >>> oak imo.

kinda disappointed, was starting to like philly a lot, and noel was a big part of it. oak is dead weight on that team

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 01:01 PM
Just wait, Justin Anderson is going to average 20 ppg in Philly. Another swingman Rick put in the doghouse for no reason.

baseline bum
02-23-2017, 01:01 PM
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That's a great deal then.

spursistan
02-23-2017, 01:01 PM
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140
02-23-2017, 01:02 PM
:lol Yeah, unless Anderson goes full Kawhi in the next few years this is a good deal

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 01:04 PM
Am I missing something???? Is Noel out there playing like the second coming of Moses Malone? Or like a guy with zero offensive skills, completely reliant on his athleticism, with a history of knee problems?

spurraider21
02-23-2017, 01:05 PM
Remember when you preffered Jefferson over Chandler? Maybe this is the same case, tbh. I don't see Okafor being anything special in the future.speaking of which, mavs probably shoulda kept chandler after they won in 2011 tbh

LkrFan
02-23-2017, 01:06 PM
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Bogut going back to Dubs. Sp*rs = f:lolcked

140
02-23-2017, 01:06 PM
Am I missing something???? Is Noel out there playing like the second coming of Moses Malone? Or like a guy with zero offensive skills, completely reliant on his athleticism, with a history of knee problems?
I've never been impressed by him but philly fans seem to like him better than Oak

spurraider21
02-23-2017, 01:06 PM
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Bogut going back to Dubs. Sp*rs = f:lolckedhe cant go to the dubs. probably cleveland imo

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 01:09 PM
he cant go to the dubs. probably cleveland imo

I thought that only applied if he tries to go back to Dallas? Since mavs traded him thought that rule no longer applies. If Dallas cut him no he could not join Dubs or did I get that wrong?

clambake
02-23-2017, 01:09 PM
speaking of which, mavs probably shoulda kept chandler after they won in 2011 tbh

hmmm hadn't thought of that.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 01:12 PM
I've never been impressed by him but philly fans seem to like him better than Oak

Well Oak has been pretty clear that he hates it in Philly, so that probably has a lot to do with it too.

spurraider21
02-23-2017, 01:19 PM
oak is a big oaf who can score in volume... barely efficient enough, and brings just about nothing on the other end while not really bringing good intangibles

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 01:30 PM
Noel is,only 22 with lots,of injury woes ...
But is tough can run and jump
And pre injury was one of the best college shot blockers of the past 10 years maybe not by numbers but right before his injury he was inhhaling shots around the rim ...to bad he got hurt.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 01:36 PM
Noel is,only 22 with lots,of injury woes ...
But is tough can run and jump
And pre injury was one of the best college shot blockers of the past 10 years maybe not by numbbers but right before his injury he was inhhaling shots around the rim ...
He'll be a nice little player for the next 10 years or so.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 01:38 PM
oak is a big oaf who can score in volume... barely efficient enough, and brings just about nothing on the other end while not really bringing good intangibles

ROFL people were jizzing their pants over Okafor's potential until he got into legal trouble.

spurraider21
02-23-2017, 01:40 PM
ROFL people were jizzing their pants over Okafor's potential until he got into legal trouble.good for people. his ceiling is marginally more athletic al jefferson

DAF86
02-23-2017, 01:45 PM
Remember when you preffered Jefferson over Chandler? Maybe this is the same case, tbh. I don't see Okafor being anything special in the future.

Just to clarify, I don't see Noel being anything special either (I can't think of any special player that hasn't showed at least flashes of "specialness" in his first two years, injury or not), I just think that, because of his playing style, he would be more helpful as a role player for a team with winning aspirations.

Raven
02-23-2017, 01:47 PM
it's a legit trade on both sides.. will see how it pans out

8FOR!3
02-23-2017, 01:51 PM
What's the scouting report on Justin Anderson?

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 01:54 PM
What's the scouting report on Justin Anderson?

I believe he drew a lot of comparisons to Jae Crowder of all people....so Dallas obviously will regret this.

He showed flashes of being a nice player but, like most young guys in Dallas, never got the chance to play through mistakes and learn from them. Would just get doghoused by Carlisle and buried on the bench.

HarlemHeat37
02-23-2017, 02:00 PM
Noel is an advanced metrics monster, tbh..not just this season, he's been rated highly since entering the league..

I expect he's going to look even better in Dallas as a finisher and defender, too..I agree that his ceiling isn't that high, though, since he's essentially a shorter DeAndre Jordan..

Raven
02-23-2017, 02:02 PM
noel >>> oak imo.

kinda disappointed, was starting to like philly a lot, and noel was a big part of it. oak is dead weight on that team

what was there to like about noel's play? he's bin a solid bust, didn't improve at all.

DAF86
02-23-2017, 02:07 PM
I'm surprised that, on this day and age, there's still so many people that don't realize the value of a center that doesn't need the ball to be effective.

HarlemHeat37
02-23-2017, 02:09 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/does-jahlil-okafor-have-a-place-in-todays-nba/

Okafor's a huge gamble, at this point..I have no idea how you could utilize him for more than 15 MPG or so..

OKC can't even play Enes Kanter as much as you would expect, and he's a much better rebounder than Okafor..

140
02-23-2017, 02:13 PM
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we staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 02:24 PM
I'm surprised that, on this day and age, there's still so many people that don't realize the value of a center that doesn't need the ball to be effective.

I'm surprised at how many people drastically overrate a player like that.

DAF86
02-23-2017, 02:27 PM
I'm surprised at how many people drastically overrate a player like that.

Without a player like that you would have never rang, tbh.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 02:28 PM
Without a player like that you would have never rang, tbh.

And yet he's still far and away the exception to the rule. Aside from Tyson and Ben Wallace, I can't think of a player like that who was a heavy contributor to a title.

DAF86
02-23-2017, 02:35 PM
And yet he's still far and away the exception to the rule. Aside from Tyson and Ben Wallace, I can't think of a player like that who was a heavy contributor to a title.

You kidding right? :lol

I can name you at least one bigman of that style on virtually any championship team in the history of the league, off the top of my head: Tristan Thompson last season, Bogut with the Warriors, Duncan and Splitter in 2014, etc. etc.

Even guys like Bosh with the Heat and KG with the Celtics were guys that did most of their damage on the pick and roll and within the rythm of the offense than getting the ball on post ups.

You also had your Rodmans, Horrys, Lambeers, Horace Grants, etc.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 02:44 PM
You kidding right? :lol

I can name you at least one bigman of that style on virtually any championship team in the history of the league, off the top of my head: Tristan Thompson last season, Bogut with the Warriors, Duncan and Splitter in 2014, etc. etc.

Even guys like Bosh with the Heat and KG with the Celtics were guys that did most of their damage on the pick and roll and within the rythm of the offense than getting the ball on post ups.

You also had your Rodmans, Horrys, Lambeers, Horace Grants, etc.
:lmao holy shit, what a stretch. :lol duncan :lol horry :lol bosh :lol kg :lol putting bogut/splitter on tyson/wallace level :lmao

This is seriously one of the worst posts you've ever made. And that's saying a lot considering you're the "Manu > Dirk" and "Diaw is a better post scorer than Duncan" guy.

I'll give you Rodman, but the rest of that post is almost purposely obtuse :lol

LkrFan
02-23-2017, 02:46 PM
I thought that only applied if he tries to go back to Dallas? Since mavs traded him thought that rule no longer applies. If Dallas cut him no he could not join Dubs or did I get that wrong?

That's the way I see it too. Unless he's pissed with the Dubs for letting him go, he'd be dumb not to return.

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 02:46 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/does-jahlil-okafor-have-a-place-in-todays-nba/

Okafor's a huge gamble, at this point..I have no idea how you could utilize him for more than 15 MPG or so..

OKC can't even play Enes Kanter as much as you would expect, and he's a much better rebounder than Okafor..

Raven, get in here and spin this shit some more!!!!
Baby Tim is under attack by Harlem, cynics and advanced metrics!

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 02:48 PM
Basically every team in the league has one shitty center that can't post up and just rebounds/plays D. Just because one of them happens to start on a stacked squad doesn't make him any more valuable than any other interchangeable random that does the same thing. I'm talking about that type of center who clearly is one of the top players on his team. Tyson/DeAndre/Wallace level, not fucking Kendrick Perkins/Sam Dalembert level shitstains.

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 02:48 PM
what was there to like about noel's play? he's bin a solid bust, didn't improve at all.

Well he is no baby Tim, right, Raven? :lmao

140
02-23-2017, 02:49 PM
:lmao holy shit, what a stretch. :lol duncan :lol horry :lol bosh :lol kg :lol putting bogut/splitter on tyson/wallace level :lmao

This is seriously one of the worst posts you've ever made. And that's saying a lot considering you're the "Manu > Dirk" and "Diaw is a better post scorer than Duncan" guy.

I'll give you Rodman, but the rest of that post is almost purposely obtuse :lol

He's also the Kawhi>=Lebron guy tbh

Still my nig though

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 02:51 PM
Oh shit okc just made a deal ...

Raven
02-23-2017, 02:52 PM
Raven, get in here and spin this shit some more!!!!
Baby Tim is under attack by Harlem, cynics and advanced metrics!

it's too easy to spin tbh

jeebus
02-23-2017, 03:20 PM
Mavs are fucked if they let go of Deron and end the Triple D Dynasty imo.

Ghazi
02-23-2017, 03:26 PM
we havent been relevant in over half a decade.... non-story tbh

FkLA
02-23-2017, 03:27 PM
Basically every team in the league has one shitty center that can't post up and just rebounds/plays D. Just because one of them happens to start on a stacked squad doesn't make him any more valuable than any other interchangeable random that does the same thing. I'm talking about that type of center who clearly is one of the top players on his team. Tyson/DeAndre/Wallace level, not fucking Kendrick Perkins/Sam Dalembert level shitstains.

If both pan out, Noel's skillset is more valuable than Okafor's skillset. Not sure why you are acting like that's so unreasonable, tbh.

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 03:29 PM
Weak trade deadline ...

Mark Celibate
02-23-2017, 03:34 PM
we havent been relevant in over half a decade.... non-story tbh

got to start somewhere. Nice to get a young shot blocking center. If we ever get serious about contending again, we still need that big piece but he could be a good complimentary option.

just need dirk to retire already

140
02-23-2017, 03:44 PM
got to start somewhere. Nice to get a young shot blocking center. If we ever get serious about contending again, we still need that big piece but he could be a good complimentary option.

just need dirk to retire already
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Raven
02-23-2017, 03:44 PM
If both pan out, Noel's skillset is more valuable than Okafor's skillset. Not sure why you are acting like that's so unreasonable, tbh.

why would you bet on an undersized "defender" that can't defend the pf spot, with a massive injury history absolutely 0 signs of improvement in even the most basic things like fts and that is 100% reliant on athleticism...

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 03:46 PM
got to start somewhere. Nice to get a young shot blocking center. If we ever get serious about contending again, we still need that big piece but he could be a good complimentary option.

just need dirk to retire already
With Barnes, Matthews, and Noel, Dallas has solid #3,4, & 5 guys on a contending team, just need to get a #1 and #2, PIECE OF CAKE

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 03:49 PM
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Good for Dirk, tbh. Even if he's hindering the advancement of the franchise, he's Dirk, he's allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants at this point.

Raven
02-23-2017, 03:51 PM
With Barnes, Matthews, and Noel, Dallas has solid #3,4, & 5 guys on a contending team, just need to get a #1 and #2, PIECE OF CAKE

yeah i actually like how the team is structured.. obviously RC knows what he's doing.. even if you assume a lineup with dirk and seth curry, it still matches perfectly, on paper...

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 04:03 PM
why would you bet on an undersized "defender" that can't defend the pf spot, with a massive injury history absolutely 0 signs of improvement in even the most basic things like fts and that is 100% reliant on athleticism...

Raven going down with the ship ...

140
02-23-2017, 04:05 PM
Good for Dirk, tbh. Even if he's hindering the advancement of the franchise, he's Dirk, he's allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants at this point.
Agreed. And he has been playing well lately tbh

Baam
02-23-2017, 04:25 PM
Dario Saric didnt like the Sixers moves : https://streamable.com/swrva

AaronY
02-23-2017, 05:05 PM
The plus/minus numbers for okafor vs Noel were startling in favor of Noel

DAF86
02-23-2017, 05:31 PM
:lmao holy shit, what a stretch. :lol duncan :lol horry :lol bosh :lol kg :lol putting bogut/splitter on tyson/wallace level :lmao

This is seriously one of the worst posts you've ever made. And that's saying a lot considering you're the "Manu > Dirk" and "Diaw is a better post scorer than Duncan" guy.

I'll give you Rodman, but the rest of that post is almost purposely obtuse :lol

What's wrong with those names? Those are examples of bigmen that played great defense and were very effective off the ball on offense (if you want I can concede you Bosh and KG as stretches). That's exactly what I was talking about, tbh.

P/S: I don't remember ever arguing Boris > Duncan on the post, but on the latter parts of Duncan's career that was probably true, tbh.

monosylab1k
02-23-2017, 05:54 PM
What's wrong with those names? Those are examples of bigmen that played great defense and were very effective off the ball on offense (if you want I can concede you Bosh and KG as stretches). That's exactly what I was talking about, tbh.

P/S: I don't remember ever arguing Boris > Duncan on the post, but on the latter parts of Duncan's career that was probably true, tbh.


Basically every team in the league has one shitty center that can't post up and just rebounds/plays D. Just because one of them happens to start on a stacked squad doesn't make him any more valuable than any other interchangeable random that does the same thing. I'm talking about that type of center who clearly is one of the top players on his team. Tyson/DeAndre/Wallace level, not fucking Kendrick Perkins/Sam Dalembert level shitstains.

djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:07 PM
No reason for this trade. They should have just tanked for the #1 pick...

K...
02-23-2017, 07:15 PM
No reason for this trade. They should have just tanked for the #1 pick...

they can still tank, it's a protected pick

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 07:18 PM
No reason for this trade. They should have just tanked for the #1 pick...

They sound very optimistic here locally. Fans, media, FO, looking for a baby Tyson. I will say this if he ever gained anything close to his old explosiveness he would be a steal.
Remember. TYSON was injury prone before Dallas and they do have a good med stafff ...

djohn2oo8
02-23-2017, 07:31 PM
They sound very optimistic here locally. Fans, media, FO, looking for a baby Tyson. I will say this if he ever gained anything close to his old explosiveness he would be a steal.
Remember. TYSON was injury prone before Dallas and they do have a good med stafff ...
He will be a restricted fa and some team will force Dallas to spend big bucks. Then they would have big money committed to Wes, Noel, and Barnes. Not exactly a core that can get you to the playoffs.

DAF86
02-23-2017, 07:33 PM
No reason for this trade. They should have just tanked for the #1 pick...

And how does this trade prevent them from tanking? They have as much chances (if not more) of ending up with a top 10 pick. A top 10 pick, Noel and Barnes is a decent rebuilding start, tbh.

Killakobe81
02-23-2017, 08:49 PM
He will be a restricted fa and some team will force Dallas to spend big bucks. Then they would have big money committed to Wes, Noel, and Barnes. Not exactly a core that can get you to the playoffs.

Fair concern ...

Kyle Orton
02-23-2017, 08:50 PM
I don't think I've actually seen him hoop since he was at Kenfucky but I like the idea of Nerlens. Hopefully he stays healthy, seems like he's usually dealing with lingering injuries imo

Will Hunting
02-23-2017, 09:44 PM
Idk why there'd be strong feelings about this trade one way or the other. If Dallas has to give its 1st this year then it becomes a shit trade for them but if that doesn't happen it's a pretty neutral trade imo

Down Under
02-24-2017, 12:59 AM
Noel is a beast defensively and a good finisher. With good minutes he'll be an extremely effective player. Philly obviously knew he was walking and needed to get a first rounder for him.

TDMVPDPOY
02-24-2017, 01:17 AM
why dont nba players wear steel cap shoes? in football they do that shit...

Findog
02-24-2017, 06:07 AM
I think this is a great move for the Mavs. Noel has the potential to be very good, and even if he ends up being just a guy, replacement level player getting starter's minutes, this is essentially Justin Anderson + 2 second rounders that they gave up. If Noel flops, and I don't think he will, it didn't cost the Mavs much anyway to get him. They get to see him in uniform for two months before deciding whether to match his RFA offers. I don't think Anderson is going to flourish away from Dallas like Jae Crowder did.

Chinook
02-24-2017, 07:28 AM
I seriously have no idea how anyone can find fault in this move from Dallas' side. This was the deal they needed to make to finally convince themselves that they could tank this season. Now the goal is to make Wes Matthews look as good as possible to trade him during the draft. Or if Dirk doesn't retire and doesn't want to take another paycut, keep Wes and hope you trade the PG you need to complete your starting unit.

I like Justin Anderson a lot, but all this cost was him and two seconds. Hell of a deal.

Thread
02-24-2017, 10:44 AM
& it was your old dad who stated that Bogut would drift in Dallas. I was called everything but a white man for it.

Me

monosylab1k
02-24-2017, 10:51 AM
& it was your old dad who stated that Bogut would drift in Dallas. I was called everything but a white man for it.

Me

No you didn't, no you weren't, and nobody cares.

monosylab1k
02-24-2017, 10:53 AM
This wasn't a bad trade for Dallas, just a meaningless one. I look forward to winning 35-45 games a year for the next decade with this team. We're now the Nuggets. Yay.

monosylab1k
02-24-2017, 10:55 AM
I seriously have no idea how anyone can find fault in this move from Dallas' side. This was the deal they needed to make to finally convince themselves that they could tank this season. Now the goal is to make Wes Matthews look as good as possible to trade him during the draft. Or if Dirk doesn't retire and doesn't want to take another paycut, keep Wes and hope you trade the PG you need to complete your starting unit.

I like Justin Anderson a lot, but all this cost was him and two seconds. Hell of a deal.
Trade for a PG being the key. Drafting a PG would be disastrous. Not interested in seeing Carlisle mindfuck another young player into oblivion.

Chinook
02-24-2017, 11:05 AM
Trade for a PG being the key. Drafting a PG would be disastrous. Not interested in seeing Carlisle mindfuck another young player into oblivion.

I don't watch them enough to know, but I'd think it easier to draft a guy and let him learn to do what Carlisle wants rather than trading for an established PG (not that I know who that would be) and having him clash with Rick.

monosylab1k
02-24-2017, 11:16 AM
I don't watch them enough to know, but I'd think it easier to draft a guy and let him learn to do what Carlisle wants rather than trading for an established PG (not that I know who that would be) and having him clash with Rick.

Carlisle is terrible with rookies and young players. Kidd and Deron have been the only successful starting PG's under Rick because they already understood the NBA game and he didn't have to do much to coach them. Rondo obviously flopped in Dallas because of Rondo, not Rick. But basically every young/rookie guard under Rick has failed, and that's no coincidence. In 2 weeks, Yogi will be in the doghouse riding the bench as JJ Barea plays 36 minutes a night, guaranteed.

Thread
02-24-2017, 01:17 PM
No you didn't, no you weren't, and nobody cares.

Oh, yes, I did. And I did it first.

140
02-24-2017, 01:20 PM
& it was your old dad who stated that Bogut would drift in Dallas. I was called everything but a white man for it.

Me
Yes, I remember. I didn't want to believe it then, but, you were right all along.

You

Thread
02-24-2017, 01:24 PM
Yes, I remember. I didn't want to believe it then, but, you were right all along.

You

140

Mark Celibate
02-24-2017, 02:11 PM
& it was your old dad who stated that Bogut would drift in Dallas. I was called everything but a white man for it.

Me

An aging role player going from a championship team to a lottery team. Yeah, what a bold prediction you had there.

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02-24-2017, 04:18 PM
An aging role player going from a championship team to a lottery team. Yeah, what a bold prediction you had there.


& yet when I lodged it I was all alone & ridiculed. MF thought he was the living end.

monosylab1k
02-24-2017, 04:44 PM
& yet when I lodged it I was all alone & ridiculed. MF thought he was the living end.

FAKE NEWS

Thread
02-24-2017, 04:48 PM
FAKE NEWS

You got Bogutted & I called it. Gonna be big shots. Gonna be another State.

No more big shots.

clambake
02-24-2017, 05:48 PM
yep, you called it, and for that, you are an ass.

how dare you analyze my team.

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02-24-2017, 06:28 PM
yep, you called it, and for that, you are an ass.

how dare you analyze my team.

I saw an asshole---I checked it.

monosylab1k
02-25-2017, 12:05 AM
You got Bogutted & I called it. Gonna be big shots. Gonna be another State.

No more big shots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IDF-8khS3w

spursistan
03-04-2017, 01:14 AM
837882166201634817Colangelo is dumbass especially with Embiid's Greg Oden health flashes..