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$pursDynasty
03-05-2017, 11:33 PM
As of right now the Kingslayer is just getting honorable mention mentions when it comes to the MVP but this is the week that changes everything.

*Monday March the 6th against the Houston Rockets and MVP favorite among discerning talking heads, James Harden. A league leading scorer on the team with the third or fourth best record in the league.

*Wednesday March the 8th against the Kings. I wouldn't be surprised if Pop didn't rest Kiwi this game knowing what lies ahead

*Thursday March the 9th against the OKC Thunderefs and Russell Westbrook. The talking heads that don't say Harden, say Westbrook. Adding his pelt to the wall after Harden will only increase the murmuring.

*Saturday March the 11th against prohibitive championship Golden State Warriors and the two time reigning and defending MVP S.Curry.

IF and the Lord knows this is a tall order, the Spurs can run this 4 game gauntlet the narrative will change. Then the only thing keeping Kiwi from becoming the favorite for MVP will be the Spurs getting HCA. The best player on the best team that isn't stuffed with all-stars. People will go from simply mentioning Kiwi's name as an after thought and will go to trying to find a reason to not vote for him. We are in for a hell of a week by this time next week, everything could be different. The Spur's "path of rage" to championship #6 begins in earnest next week. Not only will the MVP narrative change but also the who will play for the title talk will as well. I can't wait.

lilbthebasedgod
03-05-2017, 11:46 PM
The new fastlane was lame tbh. It seems like the specials have been like that recently.

$pursDynasty
03-06-2017, 12:23 AM
At what point does the Thunderefs losing start to significantly overshadow the historic numbers he is putting up? I just can't see a player on a 7th seeded team winning the MVP.

Ice009
03-06-2017, 12:44 AM
At what point does the Thunderefs losing start to significantly overshadow the historic numbers he is putting up? I just can't see a player on a 7th seeded team winning the MVP.

Did Oscar win the MVP the season that he averaged a triple double? What place did his team finish that season? and how far did they go in the playoffs?

I'm not a numbers guy - numbers alone don't impress me. I'm someone that looks at wins and how a player performs in wins, and also how that player performs against all the best teams regardless of a win or loss - For example, I always want to see Kawhi show he is the best player on the court against the other top teams win or lose. I don't care about players that put up big numbers against crap teams if they don't perform against the best teams. An individual player can't always win against the best teams as you need help from your teammates to win those games, so that is why I like to see how the best player performs against those team regardless of a win or loss.

Also, the only numbers I'd look at for an MVP is the number of wins. I don't think an MVP should ever be given to a player on a team that is on a lower seed. To me, Westbrook is out of the running, but Harden isn't as his team is up there. Harden is the favorite right now, but I rate Kawhi higher because of his defense and offense.

will_spurs
03-06-2017, 01:04 AM
Did Oscar win the MVP the season that he averaged a triple double? What place did his team finish that season? and how far did they go in the playoffs?

He finished 3rd: http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_1962.html

Wilt was 2nd despite averaging over 50 & 27. For whatever reason Russell got the MVP. When talking about these guys I don't think enough people understand this was a very different league back then, actually by today's standard it wouldn't even be called a league. There were only 9 teams. Cincinatti (Robertson's team) lost (upset) in the W semifinals (1st round back then).

In other news, Stein has named Kawhi the MVP of the 2nd trimester of the regular season: http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/5035/harden-and-westbrook-have-to-share-the-mvp-spotlight-with-kawhi-leonard-on-steins-ballot

The tide is turning.

DAF86
03-06-2017, 01:06 AM
Robertson didn't win MVP the year he averaged a triple double.

BillMc
03-06-2017, 01:16 AM
As of right now the Kingslayer is just getting honorable mention mentions when it comes to the MVP but this is the week that changes everything.

*Monday March the 6th against the Houston Rockets and MVP favorite among discerning talking heads, James Harden. A league leading scorer on the team with the third or fourth best record in the league.

*Wednesday March the 8th against the Kings. I wouldn't be surprised if Pop didn't rest Kiwi this game knowing what lies ahead

*Thursday March the 9th against the OKC Thunderefs and Russell Westbrook. The talking heads that don't say Harden, say Westbrook. Adding his pelt to the wall after Harden will only increase the murmuring.

*Saturday March the 11th against prohibitive championship Golden State Warriors and the two time reigning and defending MVP S.Curry.

IF and the Lord knows this is a tall order, the Spurs can run this 4 game gauntlet the narrative will change. Then the only thing keeping Kiwi from becoming the favorite for MVP will be the Spurs getting HCA. The best player on the best team that isn't stuffed with all-stars. People will go from simply mentioning Kiwi's name as an after thought and will go to trying to find a reason to not vote for him. We are in for a hell of a week by this time next week, everything could be different. The Spur's "path of rage" to championship #6 begins in earnest next week. Not only will the MVP narrative change but also the who will play for the title talk will as well. I can't wait.

Nice post. A week from now there could be a growing groundswell for KL especially if we've cut the dubs lead to 1. As you say, Pop almost has to rest him against the kings.

gospursgojas
03-06-2017, 01:21 AM
Knowing Pop he'll rest him all games EXCEPT the Kings. :pop:

dabom
03-06-2017, 01:23 AM
Knowing Pop he'll rest him all games EXCEPT the Kings. :pop:

This year is different. Kawhi is resting vs shity teams.

Brazil
03-06-2017, 07:03 AM
Man... I'd love Kawhi get dat MVP tbh

NameLess Scrub
03-06-2017, 07:18 AM
As of right now the Kingslayer is just getting honorable mention mentions when it comes to the MVP but this is the week that changes everything.

*Monday March the 6th against the Houston Rockets and MVP favorite among discerning talking heads, James Harden. A league leading scorer on the team with the third or fourth best record in the league.

*Wednesday March the 8th against the Kings. I wouldn't be surprised if Pop didn't rest Kiwi this game knowing what lies ahead

*Thursday March the 9th against the OKC Thunderefs and Russell Westbrook. The talking heads that don't say Harden, say Westbrook. Adding his pelt to the wall after Harden will only increase the murmuring.

*Saturday March the 11th against prohibitive championship Golden State Warriors and the two time reigning and defending MVP S.Curry.

IF and the Lord knows this is a tall order, the Spurs can run this 4 game gauntlet the narrative will change. Then the only thing keeping Kiwi from becoming the favorite for MVP will be the Spurs getting HCA. The best player on the best team that isn't stuffed with all-stars. People will go from simply mentioning Kiwi's name as an after thought and will go to trying to find a reason to not vote for him. We are in for a hell of a week by this time next week, everything could be different. The Spur's "path of rage" to championship #6 begins in earnest next week. Not only will the MVP narrative change but also the who will play for the title talk will as well. I can't wait.

Well thanks for the hype. I hope he destroys them :claw

Also, Fastlane's main event was exactly what many people expected.
The only disappointment was that Goldberg didn't hold KO in the air to make the jackhammer look better.

TheDoctor
03-06-2017, 07:41 AM
The NBA fucked it up BIG TIME by moving the awards until after the Season. What a dumb-ass decision tbh

Thomas82
03-06-2017, 08:01 AM
Did Oscar win the MVP the season that he averaged a triple double? What place did his team finish that season? and how far did they go in the playoffs?

His team finished with a 43-37 record and lost to the Pistons in the 1st round of the playoffs.

Canyonero
03-06-2017, 08:55 AM
Robertson didn't win MVP the year he averaged a triple double.

:lmao Bill Russell winning MVP and being a 2nd all-NBA teamer

Thomas82
03-06-2017, 02:31 PM
:lmao Bill Russell winning MVP and being a 2nd all-NBA teamer

For real??? That has to be the only time that's ever happened.

unleashbaynes
03-06-2017, 02:35 PM
LeBron should be MVP, then Kawhi and Harden are next, then Westbrook


Just can't fucking respect the fake ass numbers that dude is putting up. Stat whoring assists, going after every rebound to the detriment of his team, and shooting a shitty% not only from 3 (why the fuck does he continue to chuck those bricks) but overall.

People will distance themselves from Westbrook as his team continues to suck.

BillMc
03-06-2017, 02:41 PM
The NBA fucked it up BIG TIME by moving the awards until after the Season. What a dumb-ass decision tbh
+1 BILLION. Takes all the fun out of it.

Canyonero
03-06-2017, 04:05 PM
For real??? That has to be the only time that's ever happened.

No :lol. Happened like three more times.

Ice009
03-06-2017, 05:58 PM
LeBron should be MVP, then Kawhi and Harden are next, then Westbrook


Just can't fucking respect the fake ass numbers that dude is putting up. Stat whoring assists, going after every rebound to the detriment of his team, and shooting a shitty% not only from 3 (why the fuck does he continue to chuck those bricks) but overall.

People will distance themselves from Westbrook as his team continues to suck.

As much as I like Russell's aggressiveness and some aspects of his game, shooting isn't one of them. He is a piss poor shooter and should stop shooting threes altogether. I mentioned this before here during the free agency period, but if I was pitching Kevin Durant, I'd bring a brick into the room and chuck it on the table and start off by telling him that playing with Russell Westbrook, you're nothing more than a brickie's laborer. You have a better shooting percentage, but you get to watch him build a house while he jacks up low percentage shots.

Thomas82
03-06-2017, 07:17 PM
No :lol. Happened like three more times.

Wow!!

DAF86
03-06-2017, 10:54 PM
Kawhi crossed the fuck out of Harden with that manhood erasing block. Cross that bearded nigga out!

Leetonidas
03-06-2017, 10:54 PM
Cross one bitch off the list

$pursDynasty
03-06-2017, 10:59 PM
Amen as the drum beat begins Ledlow and Rick Fox were just going who does what Kawhi does. Might need to try and do it without him against the Kings though

Ice009
03-06-2017, 11:06 PM
Did Oscar win the MVP the season that he averaged a triple double? What place did his team finish that season? and how far did they go in the playoffs?

I'm not a numbers guy - numbers alone don't impress me. I'm someone that looks at wins and how a player performs in wins, and also how that player performs against all the best teams regardless of a win or loss - For example, I always want to see Kawhi show he is the best player on the court against the other top teams win or lose. I don't care about players that put up big numbers against crap teams if they don't perform against the best teams. An individual player can't always win against the best teams as you need help from your teammates to win those games, so that is why I like to see how the best player performs against those team regardless of a win or loss.

Also, the only numbers I'd look at for an MVP is the number of wins. I don't think an MVP should ever be given to a player on a team that is on a lower seed. To me, Westbrook is out of the running, but Harden isn't as his team is up there. Harden is the favorite right now, but I rate Kawhi higher because of his defense and offense.

As I said, I always look for Kawhi to be the best player on the court against anyone. It's up to his teammates to help him out when playing against the best teams. To beat the best teams, even if you have the best player on the court, you still need your teammates to step up to win those games. They need to do a better job of helping Kawhi out.

1. They must play better team defense and not have as many lapses leaving 3 point shooters open.

2. They must hit more of their own open shots consistently.

100%duncan
03-06-2017, 11:08 PM
Lets go lets go lets go

TXstbobcat
03-06-2017, 11:11 PM
Huge 4th quarter for Leonard. 17 in the 4th. Outscored Harden 17 to 4 in the 4th. :claw

FkLA
03-06-2017, 11:13 PM
Huge 4th quarter for Leonard. 17 in the 4th. Outscored Harden 17 to 4 in the 4th. :claw


:claw

$pursDynasty
03-07-2017, 07:20 AM
The drum beat grows.Sportscenter opens with the Spurs Rox highlights and the talking heads asking could Kawhi actually be MVP? The narrative shift intensifies today on sports talk beginning today as the talking heads scramble to reserve a ticket on the Kawhi train just in case. It is setting up perfectly with two highest profile nationally televised games this week.

The empire strikes back: the Kiwi for MVP movement is getting some pushback from talking heads over at ESPN not quite ready to admit they were wrong and give up the song they have been singing all season. Not a problem however it was always going to take more than one game to turn the narrative it will take this entire week.

$pursDynasty
03-07-2017, 10:38 PM
Day two over all the talk shows talking Kawhi for MVP, full throated support from Beadle on sports nation and the jump. Also tonight Westbrook scores 56 in a loss, hopefully reinforcing the Westbrook empty stats narrative.

Edit:
Scott Van Pelt did a really cool one big thing on the awesomeness of the Kingslayer and his MVP status. The war drums grow louder next up OKC and Westbrook, to slay them both in consecutive games (Kiwi sitting out the Kings game) will only tend to ramp up the talk even louder. As Russ becomes more of a stat chaser.

$pursDynasty
03-10-2017, 10:15 AM
Last night was a setback, not because Kiwi was to blame for the loss but it simultaneously hurts his narrative for MVP and helps Russ'. However all is not lost a win, better yet a dominant one against the Dubs will kick things back into high gear and we will still be one game behind the Dubs while owning the tiebreaker over them. You can't win them all and if I was told we would have a week playing the Rox, Kings, Thunder and Dubs, go 3-1 in that week while simultaneously winning 9 of our last 10 games, I take that all day every day. Having first place outright going into next week would have been too sweet but being a game back with momentum isn't a bad consolation prize. Still pretty much in a very good place for a Kiwi MVP, HCA and our 6th title (in reverse order of importance).

$pursDynasty
03-13-2017, 11:07 PM
It's a new week and mission accomplished. The Spurs now own the league's best record and the narrative is the "best player on the team with the best record" will give the Kingslayer's MVP candidacy more steam. That plus another 30 point game.

DAF86
03-13-2017, 11:12 PM
Not exactly as planned but it'll do.

bklynspursfan
03-15-2017, 09:35 AM
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SAGirl
03-15-2017, 11:10 AM
He for sure should be the MVP. I'd leave a specialty award like DPOY for a specialist.

$pursDynasty
03-26-2017, 04:41 PM
Ah this week will tell the tale, the last big games among the MVP favorites. For the Kingslayer it starts Monday against LeBron and the Cavs, followed by a game against the team with the best record in the league the dubs. With a little help from the Rox, a victory over the Dubs could net the Spurs the best record in the league. Finally a game against Westbrook and the Thunderefs. If the Spurs can sweep those 3 games and the best record in the league could seriously shift the narrative, to best player on the best team right before the season ends.