Ben Carson Referred to Slaves As "Immigrants"

[monosylab1k]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/03/06/ben-carson-calls-slaves-immigrants/98816752/


"That's what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity," Carson said. "There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less."

:lmao

[baseline bum]

LOL getting whipped by master is the American Dream.

[baseline bum]

LOL genocide is the fucking American Dream

[hater]

Calling them immigrants is actually the least crazy thing in that statement :lol

Worked for less :lmao

[Oh, Gee!!]

They worked for peanuts. Actual peanuts

[LkrFan]

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:lmao

[Blake]

RoflMao Samuel mfL Jackson

[benefactor]

:lol

[baseline bum]

:lmao Dickheadedtom

[Pelicans78]

Uncle Ben continuing to make a fool of himself on the national stage. No wonder only a few white people like this guy.

[baseline bum]

Dickheadedtom has to be Carson's new name

[AaronY]

How is he so stupid every time he opens his mouth yet he was a brain surgeon?

[baseline bum]

:lol House ###### Ben

[DMX7]

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:rollin

:lmao That would have been such a perfect line for Pulp Fiction!!! :rollin

[DMX7]

Calling them immigrants is actually the least crazy thing in that statement :lol

Worked for less :lmao

The brilliant part is that technically it's all true -- in the most poorly articulated sentence in history. :lol

[Quadzilla99]

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:lmao

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--CayY5wde--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18h639y3w5bgbgif.gif

[benefactor]

:lmao Dickheadedtom
:lol:lol

[pgardn]

But, but...

He's a brain surgeon.

Holy Mother of God his ancestors must have been black slaveowners. Wtf...

[baseline bum]

But, but...

He's a brain surgeon.

Holy Mother of God his ancestors must have been black slaveowners. Wtf...

He's the real life Clayton Bigsby.

[boutons_deux]

Uncle Ben qualified it "you can be an involuntary immigrant"

[baseline bum]

Those 30% of ######s dying on the slave ship, living the American Dream.

[Spurminator]

Do you libtards have proof that legal immigrants weren't stowing away on slave ships? Don't you think that's what Carson could have meant? You libtards always ASSuming you know everything.

[Quadzilla99]

Those 30% of ######s dying on the slave ship, living the American Dream.

:lmao

[monosylab1k]

Not even any of the conservative blowhards here will touch this story :lol

[Quadzilla99]

Well he is a black guy mono

[SnakeBoy]

Not even any of the conservative blowhards here will touch this story :lol

What story

https://media.giphy.com/media/Yl5aO3gdVfsQ0/giphy.gif

[BanditHiro]

alternative immigrants.

General Sherman should have finished the job tbh

[boutons_deux]

racist Repugs are laughing the asses off at their "urban"-insult joke of Carson running HUD

[boutons_deux]

Say What? Twitter Agog Over Ben Carson’s ‘Hippocampus Drilling’ Tale

Drill into someone’s hippocampus and add a few electrodes so they can recite an entire book verbatim that they’d read decades ago.

That’s the brave new world, in the words of neurosurgeon-turned-Housing Secretary Ben Carson.

Carson explained his intriguing process during a pep talk with agency employees Monday.

(Keep in mind this is the same speech in which he compared slaves to immigrants. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-slaves-immigrants_us_58bdbf1fe4b033be1467634f))

The brain, he said, in a convoluted argument against government aid (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/ben-carson-makes-hud-employees-take-the-niceness-pledge.html), “remembers everything you’ve ever seen, everything you’ve ever heard.

I could take the oldest person here, make a hole right here on the side of the head and put some depth electrodes into their hippocampus and stimulate, and they would be able to recite back to you verbatim a book they read 60 years ago.

It’s all there.

It doesn’t go away.”


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-hippocampus-twitter_us_58be239fe4b033be1468075c?&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Morning%20Email%20030717&utm_content=The%20Morning%20Email%20030717+CID_976 93f5a8319101d8a83fed038e6cd82&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=drill%20into%20the%20hippocampus%20to%20i mprove%20memory%20function&

Racist Repugs hilarity at the fucked up crazy knitter they sent to fuck up HUD and its "urban" people.

[CavsSuperFan]

Dr Ben, Kellyanne, Sessions, Spicer, 3AM Mean Tweets…The next four years are going to be fun… :lol

[DarrinS]

Certainly, it wasn’t easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. There was discrimination and hardship and poverty. But, like you, they no doubt found inspiration in all those who had come before them. And they were able to muster faith that, here in America, they might build a better life and give their children something more.



http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=111241

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

[monosylab1k]

:lmao

":cry but but but Obama did it too!" is the new ":cry I'm not racist, I have black friends!"

[ElNono]

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=111241



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg


It's been said already...


The brilliant part is that technically it's all true -- in the most poorly articulated sentence in history. :lol


At least HNIC mentioned involuntarily...

[Chris]

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Truth nukes

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[monosylab1k]

0aNQ0ffj3ys

Truth nukes

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Did you not look at the post right above yours before you started with the autistic screeching?

[DMX7]

0aNQ0ffj3ys

Truth nukes

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I'm not sure where Google is getting its definition from, but Marriam-Webster defines immigrant more precisely as "a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence". That seems to indicate that the person moving is doing so for their own specified purpose. Regardless, abductees would probably be a more much fitting term for the slaves in this context.

[AaronY]

I like how Darrin posted the quote and then looks like waited bout 11 seconds before posting the crickets

[DarrinS]

11 times Obama referred to slaves as immigrants

http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/11-times-barack-obama-compared-slaves-to-immigrants/

[Pelicans78]

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=111241

I think mentioning they had not com here voluntarily is a big difference to just blanketing calling them immigrants.

[DarrinS]

I think mentioning they had not com here voluntarily is a big difference to just blanketing calling them immigrants.

Did people forget or something?

[Pelicans78]

Did people forget or something?

Nope. But still different from calling them immigrants in general. Sure, Carson had no malicious intent. His clueless ass never does, but it still doesn't prevent him from always looking dumb on the big stage whether it was his poor performances in debates, making misstatements in TV appearances, and now this. He should realize the MSM is looking for anything to take him down with so he should be more careful how he says things especially with a sensitive topic like slavery. I know you're a neo-con, but you don't have to act so obtuse all the time.

[Chinook]

How is he so stupid every time he opens his mouth yet he was a brain surgeon?

Practiced on himself, tbh.

[Chinook]

I don't think Carson was saying anything horrible. While I doubt the folks on Amistad were really thinking about the great lives their kids would have in New York, I imagine that the American Dream affected them just like everyone else. There was that dude Anthony Johnson who went from former slave to indenturing Europeans.

Also, slavery didn't used to be a permanent, transferable status. That is a lot newer in comparison. In fact, you can pretty much put a date to when it happened in the US/American Colonies. And in Africa, slavery worked completely differently than it ended up working in the New World. They say the slaves had every expectation to be treated humanly and be afforded a certain opportunity for upward mobility. Obviously, I think they got over that idea by the time the 20th corpse was tossed overboard on their journey.

Slaved dreamed of things more than just being free, and they dreamed them long before the Abolitionist movement really started to kick in. To think that they didn't have similar ambitions as immigrants (economic independence, social equality, desire to keep their own culture while integrating into the fabric of American society) is rather dehumanizing. Dunno if that's what Carson was getting at though.

[Blake]

Kinda how our new Secretary of Education praised Historically Black Colleges/Universities for being schools of "choice"

[ducks]

omama did also

[Blake]

bandwagoner fans suck

[monosylab1k]

omama did also

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

"Carson was saying anything horrible"

He HORRIBLY exposed his tone-deafness, his ignorance, while playing into the Repug propaganda that

"slavery wasn't so bad, slaves were happy campers, and would be better off today as slaves under The Man"

He seems to be medical nerd, ignorant of anything outside of his medical specialty.

[Blake]

"Carson was saying anything horrible"

He HORRIBLY exposed his tone-deafness, his ignorance, while playing into the Repug propaganda that

"slavery wasn't so bad, slaves were happy campers, and would be better off today as slaves under The Man"

He seems to a medical nerd, ignorant of anything outside of his medical specialty.





Where's Wild Cobra to run in and concur how some slaves were better off being slaves than being free

[Chinook]

"Carson was saying anything horrible"

He HORRIBLY exposed his tone-deafness, his ignorance, while playing into the Repug propaganda that

"slavery wasn't so bad, slaves were happy campers, and would be better off today as slaves under The Man"

He seems to be medical nerd, ignorant of anything outside of his medical specialty.

I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it. As a black American, I'm very grateful that my ancestors went through that shit and came out the other side. Slavery and Jim Crow are at the top of a disturbing list of things this country has done. But we don't have to constantly act hurt about it. Some folks act like it was fucking 9/11 with how sensitive they are about it.

[Blake]

I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it.

You get to enjoy the American life thanks to the entrapment of your ancestors. :cry freedom isn't free

[Chinook]

You get to enjoy the American life thanks to the entrapment of your ancestors. :cry freedom isn't free

Damned straight. And that seems to have been what Carson was saying. Most of us who have deep American roots only have them because of the sacrifice of the people who came before us. It was worse for black people and Native Americans, but it's all part of the story.

This is what Carson said:


"That's what America is about, a land of dreams and opportunity," Carson said. "There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great-grandsons, great-granddaughters, might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land."

Throw in a line about how blacks were unwilling immigrants due to the horrible white man, and who really has an issue with this statement?

[DarrinS]

Meh, Carson just gets put on blast because he's a religious conservative. He does say some nutty shit sometimes, but I don't think the blowback was deserved here.

[monosylab1k]

I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it. As a black American, I'm very grateful that my ancestors went through that shit and came out the other side. Slavery and Jim Crow are at the top of a disturbing list of things this country has done. But we don't have to constantly act hurt about it. Some folks act like it was fucking 9/11 with how sensitive they are about it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MVjwnNIg4

[monosylab1k]

Meh, Carson just gets put on blast because he's a religious conservative. He does say some nutty shit sometimes, but I don't think the blowback was deserved here.

Well of course you don't.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

I'm glad slavery happened. There. I said it. As a black American, I'm very grateful that my ancestors went through that shit and came out the other side. Slavery and Jim Crow are at the top of a disturbing list of things this country has done. But we don't have to constantly act hurt about it. Some folks act like it was fucking 9/11 with how sensitive they are about it.

You can thank the Jews

http://i.imgur.com/qcAL1QY.jpg

[Blake]

Meh, Carson just gets put on blast because he's a religious conservative. He does say some nutty shit sometimes, but I don't think the blowback was deserved here.

He also gets put on blast because he's ridiculously unqualified to be in this position

[Chinook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MVjwnNIg4

Besides being hilarious, I don't think he's wrong. We should never forget the horrible things we have the capacity to do to one another if we're selfish and ignorant. But it is so tiring when people act like current white people were the ones who enslaved current black people. There's shit that has to be reckoned with race relations but, "Your people did this to my people in the 1800s" isn't one of them.

[AaronY]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6Q1hHNUsAEtGfl.jpg

[AaronY]

^^^another quote from that speech

[Blake]

Yeah that dude is scary

[ducks]

11 times Obama had referred to slaves as immigrants, and noted there was barely a peep of outrage each time. What changed?

[monosylab1k]

:cry obama did it too :cry

[DMC]

No different than a boxcar full of wetbacks dying because some coyote forgot to retrieve them. Liberals call them immigrants. 150 cambodians in the hull of a ship in a California port, suddenly they are immigrants. The only difference between these people and the slaves is the willingness to actually immigrate.

[DMC]

Those 30% of ######s dying on the slave ship, living the American Dream.

Better odds than living in Chicago tbh

[Blake]

No different than a boxcar full of wetbacks dying because some coyote forgot to retrieve them. Liberals call them immigrants. 150 cambodians in the hull of a ship in a California port, suddenly they are immigrants. The only difference between these people and the slaves is the willingness to actually immigrate.

That only difference is big

[DMC]

That only difference is big

Not really. Either way people are here to live permanently. Either way they both satisfy the definition of the word "immigrant". The word has been politicized to mean "poor, oppressed people looking for a better life" but in reality it's just someone who relocates to another area to live permanently. There's no mention of will.

[Blake]

immigrant
[im-i-gruh nt]
noun
1.
a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.


migrate
[mahy-greyt]
verb (used without object), migrated, migrating.
1.
to go from one country, region, or place to another.

[Blake]

Yeah I guess technically he could be right but the connotation is there that immigration has always referred to free movement; not forced.

[DMC]

Yeah I guess technically he could be right but the connotation is there that immigration has always referred to free movement; not forced.

Connotation is largely based on how much you like the person saying it. When Obama said it, that was different.