Soccer: FC Barcelona pulls off the greatest comeback in sport history..

[spursistan]

839596251754672129

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb4LqqwTBJA

But, but, but.. 'no comeback factor"-- Mid :cry

[DAF86]

Beisbol :lol

[RGMCSE]

As if this is better than the Super Bowl comeback.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/ZRI6XwOcQCFGw/giphy.gif

[Mikeanaro]

Just one game in a 2 game series, this is not like 3-1 that was tasty.

[140]

But, but, but.. 'no comeback factor"-- Mid :cry

Beisbol :lol
:lol

[DAF86]

As if this is better than the Super Bowl comeback.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/ZRI6XwOcQCFGw/giphy.gif

Better than anything beisbol has to offer, that's for sure.

[RGMCSE]

Better than anything beisbol has to offer, that's for sure.

I know y'all have this cute little battle going on between orange slice ball and spitball but how the fuck is this "the greatest comeback in sports history"?

[Mikeanaro]

:lol Dilesion=Danny Green

[Silver&Black]

But, but, but.. 'no comeback factor"-- Mid :cryCorrect me if I'm wrong (I honestly don't follow povertyball that closely). But, isn't this "comeback" the product of 2 different games? Like they had to score that many goals to advance?

[140]

I know y'all have this cute little battle going on between orange slice ball and spitball but how the fuck is this "the greatest comeback in sports history"?

It isn't, but still


Better than anything beisbol has to offer, that's for sure.

[spurraider21]

"Sports" history

[DAF86]

I know y'all have this cute little battle going on between orange slice ball and spitball but how the fuck is this "the greatest comeback in sports history"?

It might be, it might not be. It's definitely up there.

[Fabbs]

Was Matt Ryan playing?
Shanahan and/or Pete Caroll coaching?

[Silver&Black]

Correct me if I'm wrong (I honestly don't follow povertyball that closely). But, isn't this "comeback" the product of 2 different games? Like they had to score that many goals to advance?

Anybody got an answer to this question?

[DAF86]

Anybody got an answer to this question?

Yes, the first game ended 4-0 for PSG. Barca needed to score 4 goals without conceding to tie the series. PSG scored an away goal when the 2nd game was 3-0 for Barca, so Barca needed to score 3 more goals to advance. They scored those 3 goals in the final 5 minutes of the game. 5 actual minutes, not minutes in American sports, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

^Thanks for the clarification DAF.

To the OP though. You do know that Mid is going to nail your ass to The Tree, right? When he says that povertball doesn't have any "comeback factor" he's obviously talking about a single game basis. When a povertyball team goes down by 2 goals there is like a 99% chance that team is going to lose the match.

:lol Using the combined goal total of two separate matches
:lol Calling that a "comeback"
:lol "Sports" history

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Soccer
:lmao "Sport"
:lmao Everyone jizzing their pants because both teams actually scored for once
:lmao Having to combine the scores of two different games to hype up this "comeback" because of how anemic this "sport" is
:lmao Anyone who thinks this shit is better than baseball

[spursistan]

^Thanks for the clarification DAF.

To the OP though. You do know that Mid is going to nail your ass to The Tree, right? When he says that povertball doesn't have any "comeback factor" he's obviously talking about a single game basis. When a povertyball team goes down by 2 goals there is like a 99% chance that team is going to lose the match.

:lol Using the combined goal total of two separate matches
:lol Calling that a "comeback"
:lol "Sports" history
No there isn't unless it is a mismatch..Boasting about comeback factor in basketball as if the Wolves of worlds are overcoming 20 points deficit to beat the likes of the Warriors on regular basis or vice versa :lol.

In "sport history" it was obviously meant for soccer...And guess DAF enlightened your ass that it was 3 goals in 5 minutes..they were playing against the "score" not the nature of outcome (W or L) of the game....so a comeback factor still applies..

[midnightpulp]

^Thanks for the clarification DAF.

To the OP though. You do know that Mid is going to nail your ass to The Tree, right? When he says that povertball doesn't have any "comeback factor" he's obviously talking about a single game basis. When a povertyball team goes down by 2 goals there is like a 99% chance that team is going to lose the match.

:lol Using the combined goal total of two separate matches
:lol Calling that a "comeback"
:lol "Sports" history

:lol Exactly.

I mean, I guess this is an "epic" comeback by soccer standards, but its overall comeback factor is still comparatively low to better sports like baseball, basketball, hockey and football.

Oh, and povertyfans are actually having to combine the results of two different games here. The actual game score was 6-1. So where was the comeback? That's like the Spurs being down 30 points in "aggregate" and blowing out the Lakers by 31 to "advance." How fuckin' stupid.

Cute.

I'll digress by showing some real comebacks.

http://deadspin.com/padres-blow-10-run-lead-give-up-nine-runs-with-two-out-1780339596

http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/05/28/white-sox-blow-lead-ninth-lose-royals

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/06/14/tigers-blow-7-run-lead-lose-10-9-to-white-sox-in-12-innings/85857022/

All from one season. And maybe CN can tell us about some nice NHL comebacks this season.

"Aggregate." :lmao

[DMC]

Church league kickball isn't a sport

[Silver&Black]

So where was the comeback?There isn't one. Every other "sport" that I can think of would say that the "Series is tied at 1-1".

P:lolvertyball

[midnightpulp]

There isn't one. Every other "sport" that I can think of would say that the "Series is tied at 1-1".

P:lolvertyball

It was a 2 game series?

:lmao

Why does soccer have such retarded gameplay ideas?

Minigames, added time that is arbitrarily decided by the ref, "aggregates," 2 game series, and so on.

[spursistan]

Why are Beisbol fans acting like the deciding a winner in compeetion should only follow the model of their sorry ass "sport"? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Why are Beisbol fans acting like the deciding a winner in compeetion should only follow the model of their sorry ass "sport"? :lol
Never mind just baseball. No actual sport decides winners on aggregate scores across multiple games. By soccer "logic," the Cubs and Indians are co-champions because they scored 27 runs apiece in the World Series.

[midnightpulp]

Why are Beisbol fans acting like the deciding a winner in compeetion should only follow the model of their sorry ass "sport"? :lol

Our sport?

That follows the model of "every" sport aside from floppytrot.

When's the last time you've seen Roger Federer win a major match because he led in "aggregate?"

Never. Because tennis is smart enough to make it best out of 5 games. Just like baseball, basketball, and hockey are smart enough to make it best out of 5 and 7.

[midnightpulp]

Anyhow, I'm still waiting to see this "comeback?"

Barcelona won the game outright 6-1, right? Series tied 1-1.

So when's the next game? :lol

[Silver&Black]

Why are Beisbol fans acting like the deciding a winner in compeetion should only follow the model of their sorry ass "sport"? :lol

It's not just beisbol. NBA, Hockey both use 7 games to determine a winner. Back in the day the NBA used 5 games in the first round to decide a winner, but the point is the same. They all use an odd number. Povertyball......nope. 2 games (:lol A fucking even number). Guess they love ties that much that they decide to have an even number of games to decide a victor. What genius thought that was a good idea? Love to meet him/her and try to slap some sense in them.

You can't make this shit up. Povertyball has the dumbest set of rules I've ever seen. You can talk all the shit about beisbol you want to (Which I agree with you on), but that doesn't change the fact that this "sport" is flawed from top to bottom. Lack of scoring, rules, tie games galore, and having a winner decided by "combined goals"....these are fundamental flaws of the game. Most people see "Sports" as entertainment. Excuse me if 0-0 tie games don't entertain me. I'd rather watch grass grow or paint dry.

[midnightpulp]

It's not just beisbol. NBA, Hockey both use 7 games to determine a winner. Back in the day the NBA used 5 games in the first round to decide a winner, but the point is the same. They all use an odd number. Povertyball......nope. 2 games (:lol A fucking even number). Guess they love ties that much that they decide to have an even number of games to decide a victor. What genius thought that was a good idea? Love to meet him/her and try to slap some sense in them.

You can't make this shit up. Povertyball has the dumbest set of rules I've ever seen. You can talk all the shit about beisbol you want to (Which I agree with you on), but that doesn't change the fact that this "sport" is flawed from top to bottom. Lack of scoring, rules, tie games galore, and having a winner decided by "combined goals"....these are fundamental flaws of the game. Most people see "Sports" as entertainment. Excuse me if 0-0 tie games don't entertain me. I'd rather watch grass grow or paint dry.

:lol

And I don't get why soccer fans think this is an "American" preoccupation?

Rugby doesn't use aggregate.
Cricket doesn't use aggregate.
Tennis doesn't use aggregate.
Volleyball doesn't use aggregate.
Aussie Rules Football does't use aggregate.
Etc.

[Silver&Black]

So when's the next game? :lol

https://s8.postimg.org/nlilvjck5/brillant.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

:lol

And I don't get why soccer fans think this is an "American" preoccupation?

Rugby doesn't use aggregate.
Cricket doesn't use aggregate.
Tennis doesn't use aggregate.
Volleyball doesn't use aggregate.
Aussie Rules Football does't use aggregate.
Etc.
Most Americans who "like" soccer don't even enjoy the "sport." They're just liberal hipsters who enjoy the image of liking a "European" "sport" because it makes them feel superior to the average American (who they view with contempt for reasons unrelated to sports). They don't know shit about actual sports that are popular elsewhere in the world, but they love to give American sports shit for not being exactly like soccer in every way.

[midnightpulp]

https://s8.postimg.org/nlilvjck5/brillant.jpg

:lol

[midnightpulp]

Most Americans who "like" soccer don't even enjoy the "sport." They're just liberal hipsters who enjoy the image of liking a "European" "sport" because it makes them feel superior to the average American (who they view with contempt for reasons unrelated to sports). They don't know shit about actual sports that are popular elsewhere in the world, but they love to give American sports shit for not being exactly like soccer in every way.

Indeed.


“Any time I’m at a book party or reading, and soccer comes up in conversation, I find myself surrounded by young men in shabby-genteel, loosely fitting tweed jackets gushing over the Gunners,” Ms. Schaap said. “In such settings, being an Arsenal supporter is even more predictable than having an M.F.A. or a pair of horn-rimmed glasses.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/17/fashion/soccer-particularly-englands-premier-league-growing-in-popularity-in-new-york-creative-circles.html

[140]

ITT: trumpball lovers assmad over the fact that football is the world's biggest sport even though it doesn't conform to their cute little set of nerd rules :lol

[Clipper Nation]

ITT: trumpball lovers assmad over the fact that football is the world's biggest sport even though it doesn't conform to their cute little set of nerd rules :lol
That "cute little set of nerd rules" are used by nearly all team sports. The ones that don't use them have single-elimination tournaments instead, which are still better than what soccer uses :lol

Meanwhile, soccer wants to be taken seriously as a "sport" despite having the most retarded rules ever.

[140]

Still the world's biggest sport :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Still the world's biggest sport :lol
http://i.imgur.com/aY03y1s.jpg

[resistanze]

:lol

And I don't get why soccer fans think this is an "American" preoccupation?

Rugby doesn't use aggregate.
Cricket doesn't use aggregate.
Tennis doesn't use aggregate.
Volleyball doesn't use aggregate.
Aussie Rules Football does't use aggregate.
Etc.

Rugby union indeed uses two-legged matches in some tournaments. Also, cricket can have the same 'game' over the course of 5 days so that clearly shouldn't be held in high esteem by that reasoning :lol

[diego]

Aggregate scoring is a great idea and it is used in fiba basketball. It gives teams an incentive to run up the score / punishes them for getting blown out, every minute counts. As for two game "series", it's similar to the NBA schedule dynamic, ie old travel conditions + tradition. These are international cups, teams sometimes travel very long distances for these games, some of these cup formats were created before airplanes were even invented. The club/league structure of soccer is very different from the franchise model of us sports, there are teams with very different levels of resources competing against each other (which is awesome, see Leicester winning the premier league last year)

And I don't know where you've gotten that teams don't "come back" in the same game in soccer. Happens just as much as in basketball (ie, good teams control leads, bad ones cough them up)

[DAF86]

https://www.turiver.com/foros/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ole.com.ar%2Ffutbol-internacional%2Fchampions%2FAhi-Messi_OLEIMA20170308_0217_1.jpg

[140]

Unless he bribed the refs himself, misty didn't do shit tbh :lol

[DAF86]

Unless he bribed the refs himself, misty didn't do shit tbh :lol

Scored a penaldo (which you troll him for, tbh) and put the perfect through ball for Suarez, out of nowhere, on the call of the second penalty call. He can't always be the star, tbh.

[resistanze]

And I don't know where you've gotten that teams don't "come back" in the same game in soccer. Happens just as much as in basketball (ie, good teams control leads, bad ones cough them up)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmzohDd56ww

[Clipper Nation]

https://www.turiver.com/foros/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ole.com.ar%2Ffutbol-internacional%2Fchampions%2FAhi-Messi_OLEIMA20170308_0217_1.jpg


When that faggot is the GOAT of your "sport," it doesn't count as a sport.

[hater]

:lmao FoFa is a joke

They really think ppl believe that shit is legit????

[midnightpulp]

Aggregate scoring is a great idea and it is used in fiba basketball. It gives teams an incentive to run up the score / punishes them for getting blown out, every minute counts. As for two game "series", it's similar to the NBA schedule dynamic, ie old travel conditions + tradition. These are international cups, teams sometimes travel very long distances for these games, some of these cup formats were created before airplanes were even invented. The club/league structure of soccer is very different from the franchise model of us sports, there are teams with very different levels of resources competing against each other (which is awesome, see Leicester winning the premier league last year)

And I don't know where you've gotten that teams don't "come back" in the same game in soccer. Happens just as much as in basketball (ie, good teams control leads, bad ones cough them up)

Here's the problem with that model.

A team can beat another team in the standings even if that team has a losing record against the team it is tied with. Example. The Spurs and Golden State wind up tied at the end of the season. The Spurs had a better head-to-head record vs. GS, but Golden wins the tiebreaker via aggregate scoring. I would be highly pissed in that scenario. It also punishes teams more severely for events out of a team's control, like injuries. Another example. Popovich and Co. typically build the Spurs so that they can handle injuries reasonably well over a regular season campaign. Let's say Kawhi goes down for 10 games. Over that span, the Spurs go 7-3, winning a lot of close games. At the end of the season, they find themselves in a 3 way tie for the 2nd seed. They hold all the traditional tie-breakers (H2H, conference record, division record) over the two teams in front of them, but their aggregate scoring is worse. In the EPL, they would drop to the 4th seed (if the EPL had playoffs). Again, I would be highly pissed.

That said, I agree that aggregate scoring is good for a low scoring game like soccer since cheap tactics like parking the bus are so effective, robbing the game of action.

As for 1-1 game series. Well, we're no longer in the 30's. Modern travel makes back and forth traveling across Europe not too difficult a scenario (The Lakers and Celtics had no problem travelling across the US for a 7 game series in the 12 times they've met in the Finals). I understand the logic. Giving each team a game on their home field. But instead of aggregate scoring determining the winner, I think a better idea is that it determines who gets home field for game 3.

And it's easily proven soccer's comeback factor is relatively low. The most common score is 1-0 :lol. When it's mathematically harder to score, it's mathematically harder to comeback from a deficit. Also, it's impossible to take the lead from a deficit in soccer on a single goal, making comebacks more improbable.

http://www.decisionsciencenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Most_Common_Scores.png

http://www.decisionsciencenews.com/2016/03/01/most-soccer-matches-are-within-one-goal-of-1-0/

[unleashbaynes]

Soccer fans need to quit being fags and admit that their "scoring" rules are gimmicky and fraudulent.

[diego]

Here's the problem with that model.

A team can beat another team in the standings even if that team has a losing record against the team it is tied with. Example. The Spurs and Golden State wind up tied at the end of the season. The Spurs had a better head-to-head record vs. GS, but Golden wins the tiebreaker via aggregate scoring. I would be highly pissed in that scenario. It also punishes teams more severely for events out of a team's control, like injuries. Another example. Popovich and Co. typically build the Spurs so that they can handle injuries reasonably well over a regular season campaign. Let's say Kawhi goes down for 10 games. Over that span, the Spurs go 7-3, winning a lot of close games. At the end of the season, they find themselves in a 3 way tie for the 2nd seed. They hold all the traditional tie-breakers (H2H, conference record, division record) over the two teams in front of them, but their aggregate scoring is worse. In the EPL, they would drop to the 4th seed (if the EPL had playoffs). Again, I would be highly pissed.

That said, I agree that aggregate scoring is good for a low scoring game like soccer since cheap tactics like parking the bus are so effective, robbing the game of action.

As for 1-1 game series. Well, we're no longer in the 30's. Modern travel makes back and forth traveling across Europe not too difficult a scenario (The Lakers and Celtics had no problem travelling across the US for a 7 game series in the 12 times they've met in the Finals). I understand the logic. Giving each team a game on their home field. But instead of aggregate scoring determining the winner, I think a better idea is that it determines who gets home field for game 3.

And it's easily proven soccer's comeback factor is relatively low. The most common score is 1-0 :lol. When it's mathematically harder to score, it's mathematically harder to comeback from a deficit. Also, it's impossible to take the lead from a deficit in soccer on a single goal, making comebacks more improbable.

http://www.decisionsciencenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Most_Common_Scores.png

http://www.decisionsciencenews.com/2016/03/01/most-soccer-matches-are-within-one-goal-of-1-0/

2-1 is the next most common score. many times a team will luck into a first goal and the better team will come back and take them 2-1. comebacks happen, im not going to research it but ive followed the sport long enough to see it many times. the mark of a great team is to be able to overcome that adversity.

as for aggregate scoring, of course you'd be pissed but it would make perfect sense because it would reflect the performance from both teams (and its impossible for the "loser" to have a higher aggregate). makes way more sense than using division champions for example. was pretty pissed about going from playing memphis to clippers because of other teams results. basketball is a game of constant repetitions (baseball too for that matter) under specific conditions, they lend themselves to 3,5,7 game series. soccer is different, the field is bigger, there are way less rules (and no clock to constantly fuck up, like .3, game 7 vs clips, dont make me go on!), the coach cant constantly stop the game to tell everyone what to do, the offsides rule is the opposite of a shot clock, you cant just run up and chuck a shot. just think of a 3 game series in soccer. suppose your team wins 3-0, then the other wins 0-1, 0-1. You telling me you wouldnt be pissed in that scenario too? IIRC both the clips and the thunder series, spurs outscored them but lost a couple games on shitty calls / bad luck, i was highly pissed too but thats the way basketball is. soccer is far from perfect but its a different animal. you think soccer games are slow because there are a ton of "empty attacks", for many people nba games are slow because of all the stoppages (for me, baseball is a constant stoppage occasionally interrupted with bits of "offense" :lol). you criticize soccer for having no action and for having this stupid rule, but this stupid rule just gave us an epic game with 7 goals including 3 in 7 minutes. i think thats a good rule that works as intentioned

[Mitch]

:lol Soccer
:lol beaners and eurofags getting mad at americans calling it soccer
:lol 0-0
:lol teams full of professional actors
:lol "sport"
:lol as physical as beisbol
:lol best player is a midget
:lol only choice for impoverished countries, hence popularity
:lol knuckle draggers regularly fighting over games

[midnightpulp]

2-1 is the next most common score. many times a team will luck into a first goal and the better team will come back and take them 2-1. comebacks happen, im not going to research it but ive followed the sport long enough to see it many times. the mark of a great team is to be able to overcome that adversity.

as for aggregate scoring, of course you'd be pissed but it would make perfect sense because it would reflect the performance from both teams (and its impossible for the "loser" to have a higher aggregate). makes way more sense than using division champions for example. was pretty pissed about going from playing memphis to clippers because of other teams results. basketball is a game of constant repetitions (baseball too for that matter) under specific conditions, they lend themselves to 3,5,7 game series. soccer is different, the field is bigger, there are way less rules (and no clock to constantly fuck up, like .3, game 7 vs clips, dont make me go on!), the coach cant constantly stop the game to tell everyone what to do, the offsides rule is the opposite of a shot clock, you cant just run up and chuck a shot. just think of a 3 game series in soccer. suppose your team wins 3-0, then the other wins 0-1, 0-1. You telling me you wouldnt be pissed in that scenario too? IIRC both the clips and the thunder series, spurs outscored them but lost a couple games on shitty calls / bad luck, i was highly pissed too but thats the way basketball is. soccer is far from perfect but its a different animal. you think soccer games are slow because there are a ton of "empty attacks", for many people nba games are slow because of all the stoppages (for me, baseball is a constant stoppage occasionally interrupted with bits of "offense" :lol). you criticize soccer for having no action and for having this stupid rule, but this stupid rule just gave us an epic game with 7 goals including 3 in 7 minutes. i think thats a good rule that works as intentioned

:lol You don't need to. If it's mathematically harder to score, it's mathematically harder to overcome a deficit. Simple as that.

You grew up with it, so you like it. I'm giving you an outsider's perspective, and aggregates just feel cheap to me. Again, they aren't used in most major sports, US sports or otherwise. Tennis, for example, 6-0, 6-0, 5-7, 5-7, 5-7 = 27-21 aggregate, but player B wins the match because he won more sets.

But again, I suppose it's fine for soccer because it promotes aggressiveness and offense, which soccer needs more of.

[Biernutz]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/kickball/scoocer3_zpsfdab1a53.png

[phxspurfan]

lol worst sport in the world along with crickets

[diego]

:lol You don't need to. If it's mathematically harder to score, it's mathematically harder to overcome a deficit. Simple as that.

You grew up with it, so you like it. I'm giving you an outsider's perspective, and aggregates just feel cheap to me. Again, they aren't used in most major sports, US sports or otherwise. Tennis, for example, 6-0, 6-0, 5-7, 5-7, 5-7 = 27-21 aggregate, but player B wins the match because he won more sets.

But again, I suppose it's fine for soccer because it promotes aggressiveness and offense, which soccer needs more of.

Actually I grew up in the US, I played pitcher and catcher at my Maryland public school and went to see the orioles a bunch of times. Also played soccer too but didn't go to a game/follow leagues till I was a teenager, there was no Internet/cable to watch games on. I always liked playing pick up football, but the NFL also was just too damn slow for me to really get into.

Fiba basketball uses aggregate scoring, and it works fine. Sometimes it's just not feasible to keep playing overtimes and additional games, and it can help salvage a blowout, I still don't see what the big problem is. Tactical fouls and flopping are problems, aggregate scoring works and it works well.

[DAF86]

I always find myself laughing at the obvious penis envy displayed in these threads. Futbol is the most popular sport in the World, deal with it. We don't give a fuck if you understand it or not. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Soccer fans try sooooo hard to make Americans care about their pathetic excuse for a "sport." Then once they start getting BTFO by fans of real sports, they try to play it off like they aren't desperate for our approval. That's when the :cry "most popular 'sport' in the (third) world" :cry card starts being played. Meanwhile, most Americans are busy being entertained by real sports. We don't give a second thought to soccer unless foreigners and hipsters are trying to shove it down our throats.

Truth is, the USA is the only country that matters. No matter how hard they try to deny it, the fact that we don't care about their third-world lawn game makes soccer fans feel insecure.

[Silver&Black]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmzohDd56ww

Nobody is saying that "comebacks" (specifically in single matches) never happen. Still doesn't change the fact that when a team trails by 2 or more goals that team is usually going to lose the match. I'm willing to bet the percentage is somewhere north of 95%. This is not the norm. This is the exception. For every match you post like this I'm sure I could post 100 videos of teams that didn't make the comeback.

By saying that "It happens all the time" or "it happens just as much as basketball" your side is not being honest here. You probably remember every single 3 or 4 goal comeback like this in your favorite teams history. That's because it's so damn rare. I couldn't even begin to count all the times I've watched a Spurs game where they came back from down 20+. It happened 2 games ago.

How does a sport where the average score is 1-0 have this unbelievable "comeback" factor. Newsflash: It doesn't.

[DAF86]

Nobody is saying that "comebacks" (specifically in single matches) never happen. Still doesn't change the fact that when a team trails by 2 or more goals that team is usually going to lose the match. I'm willing to bet the percentage is somewhere north of 95%. This is not the norm. This is the exception. For every match you post like this I'm sure I could post 100 videos of teams that didn't make the comeback.

By saying that "It happens all the time" or "it happens just as much as basketball" your side is not being honest here. You probably remember every single 3 or 4 goal comeback like this in your favorite teams history. That's because it's so damn rare. I couldn't even begin to count all the times I've watched a Spurs game where they came back from down 20+. It happened 2 games ago.

How does a sport where the average score is 1-0 have this unbelievable "comeback" factor. Newsflash: It doesn't.

If you think that teams coming back from 2 goals down in soccer is rarer than basketball teams coming back from 20pts down, you clearly haven't watched enough games of at least one of those sports, tbh.

[resistanze]

Nobody is saying that "comebacks" (specifically in single matches) never happen. Still doesn't change the fact that when a team trails by 2 or more goals that team is usually going to lose the match. I'm willing to bet the percentage is somewhere north of 95%. This is not the norm. This is the exception. For every match you post like this I'm sure I could post 100 videos of teams that didn't make the comeback.

By saying that "It happens all the time" or "it happens just as much as basketball" your side is not being honest here. You probably remember every single 3 or 4 goal comeback like this in your favorite teams history. That's because it's so damn rare. I couldn't even begin to count all the times I've watched a Spurs game where they came back from down 20+. It happened 2 games ago.

How does a sport where the average score is 1-0 have this unbelievable "comeback" factor. Newsflash: It doesn't.

All that is irrelevant to me. I watch all sports and I don't know who is the 'they' you're referring to. I don't have the attention span of a child that I grade the validity of sports by the frequency of comebacks, that's a shitty argument. Most 28 point leads in the NBA are kept, so I don't know what the argument is. Comebacks happen in all sports, that's really one of the most basic elements of any competitive sport - one side leading and another side (or opponent) coming back.

[Silver&Black]

Soccer fans lying to everybody ITT. Even they know when their team goes up by 2 goals the game is basically over. Don't let these guys fool you.

But, but but but I've got a video where a team came back from down 4-0. It happens all the time!!!!!

Liars.

[midnightpulp]

I always find myself laughing at the obvious penis envy displayed in these threads. Futbol is the most popular sport in the World, deal with it. We don't give a fuck if you understand it or not. :lol

Justin Bieber is bigger than Miles Davis. It really doesn't bother me.

"Penis Envy."

Soccer fans start way more troll threads about baseball than the other way around. I wouldn't even have given a shit about soccer vs. baseball until the floptrot crew started spouting bullshit. I don't care whether or not you find it boring. That's personal taste. My issue is when you think you don't have to be athletic to play baseball because it isn't a "stamina" sport. Easily disproven, as I have shown about 1000 times.

[midnightpulp]

If you think that teams coming back from 2 goals down in soccer is rarer than basketball teams coming back from 20pts down, you clearly haven't watched enough games of at least one of those sports, tbh.

A 20pt lead after the first quarter is safe 87% of the time (ergo, comebacks happen in this instance about 1 out of 8 times).

http://stats.inpredictable.com/nba/wpCalc.php

As you can see, a 3-2 score happens less than 5% of the time in soccer, and not all those 3-2 scores will have been comebacks:

http://www.decisionsciencenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Most_Common_Scores.png

Yeah, we don't have the percentages on 4-2, 4-3, and 5-4, 5-3, 5-2 scores, some which would have been comebacks, but judging by the descent of the graph, those scores probably happen less than 1% of the time. A fair estimate is that a comeback (to win) from a 2 goal deficit probably happens about 3%-5% of the time.

[midnightpulp]

All that is irrelevant to me. I watch all sports and I don't know who is the 'they' you're referring to. I don't have the attention span of a child that I grade the validity of sports by the frequency of comebacks, that's a shitty argument. Most 28 point leads in the NBA are kept, so I don't know what the argument is. Comebacks happen in all sports, that's really one of the most basic elements of any competitive sport - one side leading and another side (or opponent) coming back.

It's not about attention span necessarily, but about drama. Coming back from a single score deficit just isn't as exciting nor as dramatic as coming back from huge deficits. Comebacks do happen in all sports, but they aren't all created equal. I like witnessing complete and total meltdowns (i.e. Falcons, Rangers, 2004 ALCS, etc). And the probability of meltdowns happening is higher in nearly all sports, not just American sports, than it is in soccer.

"Well, since they happen in soccer more rarely, they're more meaningful."

Somewhat true, but I personally think they're too rare. And when they do happen, it's either through aggregate like this, during regular season club play, or something like coming back from only 2 goals down. What I want to see in soccer is Brazil coming back from the 6 goal deficit. After Germany went up 3-0 early, it was over. You don't completely lose hope like that for a team in other sports and thus keep watching.

Simply put, I think most other sports have the rarity/occurrence dynamic just right, from baseball to tennis. Personal opinion, obviously.

[pgardn]

College football first
NBA basketball then "soccer"

My fellow Americans:

Just try playing the sport you call boring. It's a blast. Just play with people who know how to play and try to learn. The games are not watched for the scores as much as for the style of play. You can have riveting, well played 0-0 game, and absolutely horrible 5-4 game. And if you can't see the similarities between soccer and basketball you are missing it. Team spacing, properly weighted passes, running through areas to draw the defense into awkward positions on and on. Team shape and team rhythm and speed make for interesting clashes in style. Soccer can be horrible or it can be fantastic just like NBA games. You guys really care if the score is 110-100 or 100-90? They could be horrible or great games, you have to watch. One thing I admire about soccer games called by The English is they tell you if it is crap or if its compelling. They don't try as hard to please the broadcast companies by overusing superlatives. Soccer is announced on a far superior level than practically any American sport I can think of.

That being said, Barcelona is probably the only team who could pull off this kind of comeback against quality competition. Maybe Bayern Munich. Nah... only Barcelona.

[resistanze]

Simply put, I think most other sports have the rarity/occurrence dynamic just right, from baseball to tennis. Personal opinion, obviously.

To each his own. But I think that depends in your scale. 3-0 leads are significant leads in soccer, simply put. Its probably the same as 4-0 in hockey, 25 point lead in basketball, 28 point lead in football, 7-0 in baseball... You get the picture.

I think any sport....hell even tennis has comeback potential. But for me its only one element of the sport and not the most important, hence why I pretty much watch all the sports I listed.

[Spurtacular]

839596251754672129


Would've been a fun one to have bet on, tbh.

[lefty]

:lol lost to spme shit Spanish team today
:lol no ref to bail them out like it was the case during that "comeback"

[DAF86]

^^ scared Madrid fan that thought Barca was already out of the picture. :lol

[lefty]

^^ scared Madrid fan that thought Barca was already out of the picture. :lol

Barca isnt winning anything :lol

[DMC]

:lol Soccer
:lol beaners and eurofags getting mad at americans calling it soccer
:lol 0-0
:lol teams full of professional actors
:lol "sport"
:lol as physical as beisbol
:lol best player is a midget
:lol only choice for impoverished countries, hence popularity
:lol knuckle draggers regularly fighting over games

:lol required equipment: ball

[DAF86]

:lol required equipment: ball

Same as basketball and the NFL. :lol

[Canyonero]

http://blogs.uww.edu/fischerca17/files/2014/12/dominican-baseball11.jpg
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2013/04/20/7.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg

:cry b-b-but povertyball

[spurraider21]

Same as basketball and the NFL. :lollol good like playing basketball with only a ball and nothing else

[DAF86]

lol good like playing basketball with only a ball and nothing else

Same shit as playing soccer with a ball and nothing else, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

Povertyball fans lying as usual. :lol To make it in the NFL you don't need helmets and pads I guess.

It's okay to love your sport and defend it, but stop lying to everybody. First it started with povertball fans saying that all the players "run" around for 90 minutes straight. A fucking lie. At any given time there are multiple players standing still. Then, it was 0-0 tie games aren't that common. More bullshit. Now, it's you don't need anything but a ball to play football and basketball. Even more lies.

All you need to play povertball is a ball. That's it. You can draw two lines in the dirt for a "net". Even baseball requires you to have a stick and a ball. (:lol Twice the equipment required)

[DAF86]

Povertyball fans lying as usual. :lol To make it in the NFL you don't need helmets and pads I guess.

It's okay to love your sport and defend it, but stop lying to everybody. First it started with povertball fans saying that all the players "run" around for 90 minutes straight. A fucking lie. At any given time there are multiple players standing still. Then, it was 0-0 tie games aren't that common. More bullshit. Now, it's you don't need anything but a ball to play football and basketball. Even more lies.

All you need to play povertball is a ball. That's it. You can draw two lines in the dirt for a "net". Even baseball requires you to have a stick and a ball. (:lol Twice the equipment required)

If you are going to pull the "helmets and pads" card, I can use the "boots and shin pads" card.

If you are going to pretend that "drawing lines" is the same as having goals, then I can pretend that a spot on a wall can work as a basketball goal. You know what "drawing lines" works perfectly fine as? As fucking NFL endzones, tbh.

[Silver&Black]

^
Not reading any more lies from you when it comes to povertyball.

[spurraider21]

Same shit as playing soccer with a ball and nothing else, tbh.not even close. you can't play basketball without a proper basket. you can line up trash cans and play povertyball, as shooting on goal isn't really an important role for 3/4 of the players on the field

[DAF86]

^
Not reading any more lies from you when it comes to povertyball.

How very convenient for you, tbh. :lol

[DAF86]

not even close. you can't play basketball without a proper basket. you can line up trash cans and play povertyball, as shooting on goal isn't really an important role for 3/4 of the players on the field

If you don't play with proper goals the only shots you can trully know for sure were on target are those that go at floor level. If any shot goes remotely high you have to be guesstimating wether the ball was too high, to the right, to the left or right on target.

[spurraider21]

If you don't play with proper goals the only shots you can trully know for sure were on target are those that go at floor level. If any shot goes remotely high you have to be guesstimating wether the ball was too high, to the right, to the left or right on target.shots on goal is a small part of an average soccer game and largely irrelevant for 75% of the players

[DAF86]

shots on goal is a small part of an average soccer game and largely irrelevant for 75% of the players

That's not true, specially for pickup games which is what we are arguing here.

[pookenstein]

Would've been a fun one to have bet on, tbh.

Some guy here in Germany bet 1€ on Barca winning 6-1, Bayern winning 5-1 and Real winning 3-1. Got nearly 100k€ out of it.

[Biernutz]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/scoccer_zpsu4pmr52h.jpg

[140]

:wow my nigga DAF showing no mercy to trumpbol lovers ITT tbh


keep doing the lords work :toast

[Clipper Nation]

shots on goal is a small part of an average soccer game and largely irrelevant for 75% of the players
75%? That's generous. It's more like 100%.

[midnightpulp]

:wow my nigga DAF showing no mercy to trumpbol lovers ITT tbh


keep doing the lords work :toast

The NFL is trumpbol now?

[midnightpulp]

I also don't know why DAF is bothered by the fact that soccer is the easiest major sport to get a pick up game going that is relatively closer to the actual sport than other sports. Basketball is an easy second in this case, which is why it's also a popular sport in poorer areas, especially in urban and rural (basketball was once the favored sport for rural midwesteners) areas in the US. Football is restricted by its pads requirements (touch football is a poor imitator. Removing tackling from the game turns it into a completely different sport). And baseball is restricted by its space and equipment requirements. Even little kids can hit the ball over 100 feet in all directions, so an environment like this would be total shit for baseball.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/22/article-2104579-011FEC56000004B0-349_634x400.jpg

And yes, stickball has been played in locations like this for over a century in the US, but stickball is about as close to baseball as cricket or Pesapello.

It's also easily proven which sport can be better emulated by just listing the requirements you need to play each sport properly:

Soccer:

- Two 8x24ft goals with nets.
- Ball
- 100x70yd space
- Chalk to draw lines
- Shin guards
- Cleats
- Gloves for goalie (arguably not essential)

Basketball:

- Indoor court (outdoor courts are fine as long as the wind doesn't blow, in which case the game becomes a shitshow).
- Ball
- Two ten foot high goals
- Paint for drawing boundaries, key, 3 point line, etc. Tape won't work and neither will chalk

Baseball:

- 100,000sqft area bordered by outfield fencing and drawn into a diamond shape that smoothly tapers from the outfield in.
- Backstop that is about 30 feet wide and 50 feet high.
- Bases that can be anchored into the field (bases that just sit on top of the field are too easily pushed around and are an injury risk).
- Rubber anchored into the mound
- Ball
- Bats
- Gloves
- Helmets
- Cleats
- Specific catcher's gear
- Chalk to draw lines

Football:

- I won't go into detail, but just the very fact that each player needs their own gear that consists of about 12 different individual pieces should make enough of a point.

[resistanze]

You nikkas grew up privileged tbh. We regularly played basketball using the school bell on the wall as our basket at recess. Or against a sign on one of the short walls at my other school, so we constantly roofed the ball when we took a bad shot :lmao

[superbigtime]

lol soccer

[Silver&Black]

Mid...you might have some explaining to do.

Did you see the World Beisbol Classic tiebreaker? I don't know the full story, but I think Mexico got left out because of a runs scored per inning tiebreaker. Did I get that right?

If true, what an awful way to determine who advances. As bad as povertyball.

[midnightpulp]

Mid...you might have some explaining to do.

Did you see the World Beisbol Classic tiebreaker? I don't know the full story, but I think Mexico got left out because of a runs scored per inning tiebreaker. Did I get that right?

If true, what an awful way to determine who advances. As bad as povertyball.

Yeah. Mexico got hosed. It's yet another example of the flawed aggregate systems that international sporting committees just seem to love. That said, determining tie breakers in pool play of any tournament will always be a bit of a clusterfuck. Here's how it went down:

http://oi65.tinypic.com/35lb120.jpg

In a perfect world, you'd just have Ita, Ven, and Mex play another round of games. In this case, a 3 way tie record wise is impossible. But scheduling conflicts abound, obviously, especially with the WBC taking place during Spring training. Runs scored isn't really a good tie-breaker because it unfairly punishes teams for not going into extra innings. Same with run differential (due to the walkoff run factor. A home team couldn't pad runs in the bottom of the 9th, for example).

I think the best way to do it in this case is which team performed the best against the pool champ. Venezuela lost 11-0 to Puerto Rico while Mexico lost 9-4.

That said, the WBC is basically an exhibition tournament that only the Dominicans and Japanese take super-seriously. You won't see this retardation in the MLB anytime soon. And the WBC doesn't have stupid shit like 2 game series, thankfully :lol

[DAF86]

:lol "World baseball classic"
:lol literally nobody gives a shit

[midnightpulp]

:lol "World baseball classic"
:lol literally nobody gives a shit

No one gives a shit about the FIBA "World" Championship either. Or the even the Olympics Gold Medal game.

In baseball and basketball, only the MLB and NBA really matter.

[DAF86]

No one gives a shit about the FIBA "World" Championship either. Or the even the Olympics Gold Medal game.

In baseball and basketball, only the MLB and NBA really matter.

Everybody outside the US gives a fuck about the basketball World Cup son, don't be ignorant.

[140]

:lol "World baseball classic"
:lol literally nobody gives a shit
:lmao

[140]

Everybody outside the US gives a fuck about the basketball World Cup son, don't be ignorant.
This, tbh

:lol murikans gonna murikan

[midnightpulp]

Everybody outside the US gives a fuck about the basketball World Cup son, don't be ignorant.

Like who?

You really think the likes of England, Germany, Scandinavia, Russia, India, Japan, Australia, and South America aside from Argentina are huddled around the village TV set watching it?

The basketball world cup probably only draws in Spain, France, and the very small basketball countries in Eastern Europe.

Anyhow:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/42644048/world-baseball-classic-sets-ratings-records--in-taiwan-and-japan/

Those share numbers probably translate to about 30 million people, and that wasn't even a final.

Show me the last FIBA Final to draw 30 million.

[DAF86]

Like who?

You really think the likes of England, Germany, Scandinavia, Russia, India, Japan, Australia, and South America aside from Argentina are huddled around the village TV set watching it?

The basketball world cup probably only draws in Spain, France, and the very small basketball countries in Eastern Europe.

Anyhow:

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/42644048/world-baseball-classic-sets-ratings-records--in-taiwan-and-japan/

Those share numbers probably translate to about 30 million people, and that wasn't even a final.

Show me the last FIBA Final to draw 30 million.

Every country involved, outside the US, gives a fuck about the Basketball WC, unless they are really, really shitty. Of course not soccer WC fucks given, but pretty solid fucks given nonetheless, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Every country involved, outside the US, gives a fuck about the Basketball WC, unless they are really, really shitty. Of course not soccer WC fucks given, but pretty solid fucks given nonetheless, tbh.

Where's your data backing that up?

Countries like the UK and Finland giving a shit about basketball :lmao

You're really reaching.

I can't find ratings for the FIBA World Cup, but here's the television ratings from the Eurobasket Final between the two most relevant European basketball countries:

http://www.fibaeurope.com/coid_aAixU4GCHj-s0O27doJdt2.articleMode_on.html

About 9 million viewers between the two countries. Let's assume viewership doubles for FIBA World Cup. Still only 18 million.

"I bet the rest of Europe is probably tuned in."

I bet not.

Basketball is so relevant in Germany, they didn't even show an opening round game on TV in which Germany played. And it was against a historic sporting rival in France :lol

http://www.sportcal.com/News/FeaturedNews/36674?sportID=58

Meanwhile the other night in Japan:


The extra-inning thriller won by Japan in 11 innings saw an average TV viewership in Japan of 25.2%, peaking at 32.6% Sunday night, while official attendance for the contest at the Tokyo Dome was 44,326.

Nearly 1/3rd of the population (40 million people) tuned into a a 2nd round game.

[spurraider21]

:lol watching beisbol and soccer tards duke it out in the special olympics debate

[midnightpulp]

:lol watching beisbol and soccer tards duke it out in the special olympics debate

Don't get me wrong, I like football the sport, but you have to be a tard to follow (and defend) Goodell's abomination that is "NFL FOOOOOBAAWWW."

[DAF86]

:lol watching beisbol and soccer tards duke it out in the special olympics debate

And how would that make you any better, tbh? :lol

[spurraider21]

And how would that make you any better, tbh? :lolit doesn't. i just enjoy the lulz

[Clipper Nation]

:lol watching beisbol and soccer tards duke it out in the special olympics debate
It's not really a debate when it's so one-sided, tbh. Soccer fans are wrong, and they get BTFO on a regular basis.

[lefty]

:lol "World baseball classic"
:lol literally nobody gives a shit