A perfect analogy of Yesterday's basketball greatness compared to Today's Basketball

[apalisoc_9]

80's Basketball - is like the first mario game. It was awesome but compared to Today's mario games it pales in comparison. Today's mario is just miles better graphically, gameplaywise, story wise, etc.

Similarly today's players are just stronger, far more skilled, far more organized. Fact.

[spurraider21]

mario 64 >

[midnightpulp]

80's Basketball - is like the first mario game. It was awesome but compared to Today's mario games it pales in comparison. Today's mario is just miles better graphically, gameplaywise, story wise, etc.

Similarly today's players are just stronger, far more skilled, far more organized. Fact.

The first Mario pales in comparison to Super Mario 3, which came out 4 years later in 1990.

And Super Mario 3's gameplay is just as good as any 3D Mario.

[Arcadian]

SMW > SMB3 > SMB

As for 3D, Galaxy 2 is the best (and actually has some 2D levels, plus...The Perfect Run).

[Clipper Nation]

SMW > SMB3 > SMB
This. Even SMB2 is better than the original SMB.


As for 3D, Galaxy 2 is the best (and actually has some 2D levels, plus...The Perfect Run).
Tough to beat 64, but the Galaxy series was really good. 64 DS would have been the best 3D Mario game if not for the fact that you're forced to choose between two atrocious control styles (the D-pad or the wrist strap).

[JamStone]

Far more skilled? You have players drafted and coming into the league without being able to dribble the basketball or shoot a free throw.

More organized? Teams are moving away from actual sets on offense. The playbook in Houston and OKC is "give the ball to Harden or Westbrook" and go. There's way less organization. There's uptempo chaos. There's push, drive, and kick. There's shoot 50 three pointers a game. It's moving away from organization. Moving back towards 80s Denver or Phoenix basketball. High octane, free flowing, uptempo. Less organization.

[lefty]

Far more skilled? You have players drafted and coming into the league without being able to dribble the basketball or shoot a free throw.

More organized? Teams are moving away from actual sets on offense. The playbook in Houston and OKC is "give the ball to Harden or Westbrook" and go. There's way less organization. There's uptempo chaos. There's push, drive, and kick. There's shoot 50 three pointers a game. It's moving away from organization. Moving back towards 80s Denver or Phoenix basketball. High octane, free flowing, uptempo. Less organization.

:worthy:

[lebomb]

Far more skilled? You have players drafted and coming into the league without being able to dribble the basketball or shoot a free throw.

More organized? Teams are moving away from actual sets on offense. The playbook in Houston and OKC is "give the ball to Harden or Westbrook" and go. There's way less organization. There's uptempo chaos. There's push, drive, and kick. There's shoot 50 three pointers a game. It's moving away from organization. Moving back towards 80s Denver or Phoenix basketball. High octane, free flowing, uptempo. Less organization.


Also, no mid range game in today basketball.......its jack a 3 or drive through traffic in the lane, force a shot, get fouled and free throws. I cant remember the last time I saw a 8-12ft jump shot in the NBA. Yeah, a three counts more than two, but ya have to make the mufauckus. I see niggas jackin 3's, hitting 4-17. :rolleyes


Today NBA :lmao

[DMC]

The major difference is analytics have weeded out the dogmatic bullshit "eye test" crap, which is why the long two is more rare these days, and why scores are higher as a result.

[Xevious]

So you're saying the NBA peaked in the mid 90's?

:lol Today's Mario

[Splits]

If OP thinks this is a "perfect" analogy, he's an idiot.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tbSGcxo9W40/hqdefault.jpg

[spurraider21]

This. Even SMB2 is better than the original SMB.


Tough to beat 64, but the Galaxy series was really good. 64 DS would have been the best 3D Mario game if not for the fact that you're forced to choose between two atrocious control styles (the D-pad or the wrist strap).:lol kirby super star
:lol modern video games alienate me
:lol triggered by video games

[DAF86]

Far more skilled? You have players drafted and coming into the league without being able to dribble the basketball or shoot a free throw.

As opposed to older years where everybody knew how to dribble and shoot free throws, right? :lol

[Mikeanaro]

So you're saying the NBA peaked in the mid 90's?

:lol Today's Mario
Agreed, after Mario 64 everything is a pile of shit.

[140]

So you're saying the NBA peaked in the mid 90's?

:lol Today's Mario
:lol

[Arcadian]

Odyssey looks pretty good, tbh

[SpursIndonesia]

Far more skilled? You have players drafted and coming into the league without being able to dribble the basketball or shoot a free throw.

More organized? Teams are moving away from actual sets on offense. The playbook in Houston and OKC is "give the ball to Harden or Westbrook" and go. There's way less organization. There's uptempo chaos. There's push, drive, and kick. There's shoot 50 three pointers a game. It's moving away from organization. Moving back towards 80s Denver or Phoenix basketball. High octane, free flowing, uptempo. Less organization.

The big men are more skilled nowadays (which goes along the way as being more pussy), but indeed there is less emphasis on finesse techniques rather than going hard with raw athleticism & strength.

[ambchang]

The big men are more skilled nowadays (which goes along the way as being more pussy), but indeed there is less emphasis on finesse techniques rather than going hard with raw athleticism & strength.

Post game is a skill as well. That part of the game is all but gone.

[lebomb]

The big men are more skilled nowadays (which goes along the way as being more pussy), but indeed there is less emphasis on finesse techniques rather than going hard with raw athleticism & strength.


:lmao ......... no fuggin way. Todays post against true posts Ewing, Shaq, Robinson, Hakeem, Sheed, Mourning??? :lmao is all I can do with that dumbass comment.

[SpursIndonesia]

Post game is a skill as well. That part of the game is all but gone.

Agreed, but it's kinda hard to play in the post nowadays with the pussification of defensive rule in the league, tbh.


:lmao ......... no fuggin way. Todays post against true posts Ewing, Shaq, Robinson, Hakeem, Sheed, Mourning??? :lmao is all I can do with that dumbass comment.

I said more skilled, NOT more dominant, but i guess reading comprehension is a little bit on the hard side for an ignorant like you, buddy.

[lefty]

The big men are more skilled nowadays (which goes along the way as being more pussy), but indeed there is less emphasis on finesse techniques rather than going hard with raw athleticism & strength.

Yes DeAndre Jordan and Dwert are super skilled :lmao

[midnightpulp]

Yes DeAndre Jordan and Dwert are super skilled :lmao

Isaiah Thomas a glorified BJ Armstrong?

[lefty]

Isaiah Thomas a glorified BJ Armstrong?

Armstrong would average 20 and 9 in today's NBA tbh with the rules and all the open looks he would get, combined with no Jordan/Pippen around as he would take more shots.
He was also a better defender than today's Isaiah


:wow imagine if Mark Price or Prime A.Rauf played in today's NBA

[lebomb]

Agreed, but it's kinda hard to play in the post nowadays with the pussification of defensive rule in the league, tbh.



I said more skilled, NOT more dominant, but i guess reading comprehension is a little bit on the hard side for an ignorant like you, buddy.

What good are skills against a dominant center. He can crossover dribble well, shoots well in practice,can jump through the ceiling, but gets killed by Shaq in the game. I dont understand your ignorance.

[lebomb]

Armstrong would average 20 and 9 in today's NBA tbh with the rules and all the open looks he would get, combined with no Jordan/Pippen around as he would take more shots.
He was also a better defender than today's Isaiah


:wow imagine if Mark Price or Prime A.Rauf played in today's NBA

A prime Jordan would avg 45pts a game.

[lebomb]

And players today have no mid range game. I put money on it, TODAYs players would brick almost half the 8-10ft jumpers they would try. Hell, if its not a forced layup through traffic they go after, the only other option is a 3.

[lefty]

A prime Jordan would avg 45pts a game.
Because he would get more free throws and would mentally annihilate today's NBA mental midgets.
But his 3 pt shooting was meh tbh

[lefty]

And players today have no mid range game. I put money on it, TODAYs players would brick almost half the 8-10ft jumpers they would try. Hell, if its not a forced layup through traffic they go after, the only other option is a 3.

This

[lebomb]

Yes a 3 counts more than a 2, but I would take a 60% 2 over these chuckers that shoot 3-17 from 3pt land. My son is in AAU and I :lmao at these young kids that grab a rebound, dribble all the way through traffic and force up a bad shot at the basket. Next time down I :lmao again at these kids that run, cross over behind the back and jack a 3pt shot with not rebounders and the shit clanks off the rim.

Today Basketball :lmao

[ambchang]

:lmao ......... no fuggin way. Todays post against true posts Ewing, Shaq, Robinson, Hakeem, Sheed, Mourning??? :lmao is all I can do with that dumbass comment.

You forgot McHale, Barkley, Dantley, King, Aguirre, Kareem, Daugherty. Even wings like Pippen and Jordan got more post game than most of today's bigs.

People act like bigs couldn't shoot in the past, and then forgot there were players like Issel, Laimbeer, Ralph Sampson and the such. None of them were known as superstars back in the day, and the reason is because the rules back then do not need these perimeter oriented bigs.

[lefty]

You forgot McHale, Barkley, Dantley, King, Aguirre, Kareem, Daugherty. Even wings like Pippen and Jordan got more post game than most of today's bigs.

People act like bigs couldn't shoot in the past, and then forgot there were players like Issel, Laimbeer, Ralph Sampson and the such. None of them were known as superstars back in the day, and the reason is because the rules back then do not need these perimeter oriented bigs.

Muh nigga

[barbacoataco]

Rules are very different today. As far as today's athletes being better, that's mainly due to the rampant PED use in the NBA.

[SpursIndonesia]

Yes DeAndre Jordan and Dwert are super skilled :lmao

Porzingis, Jokic, Town, Embiid, Cousins, yeah you can pick & choose anyway you like it to make a case about it.

EDIT: And Antetokounmpo, damn i forget about him, unorthodox big, but a big none the less. Donkey Green, while not all that big, is damn skilled playing PF position.


What good are skills against a dominant center. He can crossover dribble well, shoots well in practice,can jump through the ceiling, but gets killed by Shaq in the game. I dont understand your ignorance.

I am not making any other case rather than saying today's big men are more skilled, on average -especially guys who are counted to be the focal point in the offense. They simply have to, since the game dictates it that way.

[ViceCity86]

80's Basketball - is like the first mario game. It was awesome but compared to Today's mario games it pales in comparison. Today's mario is just miles better graphically, gameplaywise, story wise, etc.

Similarly today's players are just stronger, far more skilled, far more organized. Fact.

Played Mario 64 past week, got up to 96 stars. Groundbreaking video game, but outdated today. The camera angles on that game suck.

[ViceCity86]

mario 64 >

Was released in 1996, like the 96 Bulls, they're outdated. Surprised if 96 Bulls could reach the Conference Finals in either Conference today, tbh.

[ViceCity86]

Main Mario launch titles on home consoles.

NES- Super Mario Bros 1 2 3 and Lost Levels

SNES- Super Mario World 1 and 2 Yoshi Island

N64- Mario 64

Gamecube- Mario Sunshine

Wii- Galaxy 1&2. New SMB

Wii U- Super Mario 3D World. NSMBU and NSLU. Super Mario Maker

Favorite- Mario Galaxy 2
Least fave- SMB3- Great for it's time but unplayable now for me.
Most underrated- Super Mario Sunshine
Favorite collector- Super Mario All Stars SNES- includes Mario 1 2 3 & Lost levels.
Currently playing- Mario 64, Super Mario 3D world
Eager to play- Super Mario Maker
Can't wait- Super Mario Odyssey for Nintendo Switch
Favorite Mario Role playing game- Paper Mario TTYD :downspin:

[djohn2oo8]

OP got his shit pushed in and then out and back in again.

[Darth_Pelican]

Yesterday's NBA:

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Today's NBA :cry http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/images/0/twitter_bird_blue.pnghttp://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/images/0/twitter_bird_blue.pnghttp://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/images/0/twitter_bird_blue.png

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[140]

Yesterday's NBA:

http://www.trendingtoplists.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/fbf066e4-e01e-499f-a042-f8bc08c8f879wallpaper_crop_north-1.jpeg

:wow:wow:wow

[ambchang]

Porzingis, Jokic, Town, Embiid, Cousins, yeah you can pick & choose anyway you like it to make a case about it.

EDIT: And Antetokounmpo, damn i forget about him, unorthodox big, but a big none the less. Donkey Green, while not all that big, is damn skilled playing PF position.



I am not making any other case rather than saying today's big men are more skilled, on average -especially guys who are counted to be the focal point in the offense. They simply have to, since the game dictates it that way.

You seem to equate perimeter skills with overall skills and that seems to be where we differ.

This notion that bigs of yesteryears are big lumbering dinosaurs is often exaggerated. Vlade Divac, Robert Horry, derrick Mckey, Detlef Schrmept, Charles Barkley, derrick Coleman and Shawn kemp all had perimeter skills. Magic and bird were 6'9" for crying out loud. Drexler and Pippen were 6'7".

Mchale, Shaq and Hakeem had low post skills that none of the current guys have. Even Robinson, who is known for having bad post up skills, or third tier players like tony seikaly and Dino radja have better low post moves than most players in today's game.

You seem to think that shooting threes is some unattainable skill but the fact is that the game rules just changed the way the game was played. Jordan went from a poor three point shooter to an above average one when threes became more prominent in the game. Players adapt.