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ambchang
03-14-2017, 09:27 AM
They didn't get off to a sizzling start because they had to integrate Durant.

Then Durant went down and they are looking like a non-playoff team since (going 2-5, including the WAS game where Durant went down, beating only the Knicks and Hawks during that time).

Sure Bogut's illegal screens were missed, and Harrison Barnes' offense was important at times, but how can they drop from a 73 win team to such a horrible team when most of their core are still playing?

DMC
03-14-2017, 09:44 AM
Because they have an excuse.

monosylab1k
03-14-2017, 09:57 AM
Because they have an excuse.

This^

Also, the egos on this team are getting out of control, and Kerr clearly is losing the respect of the team. Kerr thinks he's some combination of Popovich/Phil Jackson except without all the rings, and they're calling him out on it.

JamStone
03-14-2017, 10:11 AM
Nothing. Probably bored and uninterested. After a couple long and deep runs in the post season, that following regular season seems so long and tedious and irrelevant. Having a new toy like Durant kept things interesting earlier in the season. Now they're bored and just waiting for the playoffs to get here.

StrengthAndHonor
03-14-2017, 10:41 AM
Nothing. Probably bored and uninterested. After a couple long and deep runs in the post season, that following regular season seems so long and tedious and irrelevant. Having a new toy like Durant kept things interesting earlier in the season. Now they're bored and just waiting for the playoffs to get here.

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DMC
03-14-2017, 11:00 AM
Understand also that this team has been to the finals two years in a row and won 73 games last year. No one's going to underestimate them and most teams are going to bring it against them.

BatManu20
03-14-2017, 11:04 AM
They're missing their best player. They'll be fine.

ambchang
03-14-2017, 12:34 PM
Nothing. Probably bored and uninterested. After a couple long and deep runs in the post season, that following regular season seems so long and tedious and irrelevant. Having a new toy like Durant kept things interesting earlier in the season. Now they're bored and just waiting for the playoffs to get here.

This makes them sound like the Jordan Bulls, Shaq Lakers or Lebron Heat. Given what happened the last two years (Winning championship because of Irving and Love injuries, biggest choke job in NBA, or even major American sports, history), I am not sure if the Warriors have the criteria to be bored and coast. And even if they were, a coasting team would still look like a 50-win team (see the above three teams mentioned) rather than a non-playoff team.


They're missing their best player. They'll be fine.

Not sure about that either. A 73-win team missing their best player is still a potent team. The Warriors have look like absolute crap lately. Then you throw in those comments by AI and Green, and they look like a disgruntled team that doesn't seem to be on the same page.

Maybe I am reading too much into this, but the magic from last year has all but gone.

JamStone
03-14-2017, 01:37 PM
Not completely coasting, nor should they. But I mean when a really good team loses 5 of 7 or whatever it is, and they're still 52-14 overall and a +11 differential, how much do you think they're worried? They're not.

So look at all the factors, not just the long playoff runs the previous two years as I mentioned. Durant goes down and both Curry and Thompson have multiple games where they really struggle shooting from three point range. That happens in the dog days of the season. It's 60+ games deep into the season and they traveled cross country for several road games.

The five recent losses:

@ Washington - first full game after Durant injury and the second game of a road back-to-back. They lose by 4 points to a team now positioned with the second best record in the East. Not a bad loss.

@ Chicago - lose by 7 points when the team shoots 6-for-30 from three point range. Lost to a bad team, at best average team in the East. Still a road game. Not a horrible loss.

v. Boston - a home game where they lose to a solid Boston team by 13 points. Probably the worst loss of the four. Again shot 6-for-30 from three. Also the first and only home game after a five game East coast road trip. And the third game in four nights. Legs perhaps a factor.

@ Minnesota - lose by 1 point to a young team with some talented, young players on the road. By 1 point. On the road. If this were a loss after five straight wins, wouldn't think anything of it. Because they had a few other losses prior to it, something must be wrong with them.

@ San Antonio - Kerr rested the starters. Can't take anything from the loss.

Now, a fully motivated and fully healthy team likely goes 6-1 or 5-2 in that seven game stretch. But obviously they're neither. Their shooting has been bad and when they don't shoot the ball well, it will show since their offense revolves around the shooting ability of their guards. I don't expect that to continue to be a big problem. It's that part of the season and a tiring road trip with out their best player.

It's not that they're still world beaters or everything is perfect. But I don't think there much to the skid other than them needing to get healthy and motivated when the playoffs arrive. There was one kind of bad loss against Boston at home, perhaps also at Chicago arguably. But I don't think there's a major problem. It's not like they need to start playing better to make sure they make the playoffs.

Arcadian
03-14-2017, 02:01 PM
Their weaknesses have been exposed.

Curry has gone into faggot mode.

apalisoc_9
03-14-2017, 02:18 PM
Probably just motivation.

Curry doesnt look too happy either. Could easily see him move to a different conference.

8FOR!3
03-14-2017, 02:23 PM
This^

Also, the egos on this team are getting out of control, and Kerr clearly is losing the respect of the team. Kerr thinks he's some combination of Popovich/Phil Jackson except without all the rings, and they're calling him out on it.

Yeah that's what it seems like. Kerr might be the least likable coach in the NBA.

lefty
03-14-2017, 02:28 PM
LeBron has destroyed their psyche, plain and simple

DAF86
03-14-2017, 02:37 PM
Contenders don't coast into 2-5 stretches, much less with seeding implications on the line.

They are just struggling right now, Curry seems like he has came down to Earth for good (still pretty great, of course) and players like Iguodala and Livingston don't look as good when they can't ride the splash brothers wave, imho.

They will be fine in the long run but you can't put this bad stretch on "boredom", imho. Not when their newly acquired Superstar went down and their old guard stars are eager to prove they can still win without him. GS players are desperately searching for wins, you can see it on the nervous body language displayed in the last couple of games.

Raven
03-14-2017, 03:23 PM
gaymond has been non existent on offense and their centers are sketchy at best.

DMC
03-14-2017, 03:48 PM
I think Kerr rested guys as a message to the team: Step up or sit down.

Clipper Nation
03-14-2017, 05:24 PM
The playoffs are almost here and the Warriors are shifting into choke mode, per par.

Ghazi
03-14-2017, 06:40 PM
The playoffs are almost here and the Warriors are shifting into choke mode, per par.

Cavs have been sucking even worse lately :lol

MultiTroll
03-14-2017, 07:53 PM
Both.
Clearly the pouting and cliquey staying in the locker room was pure punk.
They are still good, have enough of a core to coast into the playoffs when the skinny faggot gets back.
Whether they are #1 or #2 seed is irrelevant. Look at their competition in :lol todays NBA.

Spurs have the personnel to beat them but.....

Clipper Nation
03-14-2017, 07:54 PM
Cavs have been sucking even worse lately :lol
Non-issue. The Cavs show up in the playoffs. The Warriors choke.

Ghazi
03-14-2017, 07:55 PM
Contenders don't coast into 2-5 stretches, much less with seeding implications on the line.

They are just struggling right now, Curry seems like he has came down to Earth for good (still pretty great, of course) and players like Iguodala and Livingston don't look as good when they can't ride the splash brothers wave, imho.

They will be fine in the long run but you can't put this bad stretch on "boredom", imho. Not when their newly acquired Superstar went down and their old guard stars are eager to prove they can still win without him. GS players are desperately searching for wins, you can see it on the nervous body language displayed in the last couple of games.

WRONG

Spurs in 2013-2014 had a 2-5 stretch
Mavs in 2010-2011 had a 2-7 stretch
Cavs last year had a 2-4 stretch
Heat in 2011-2012 had a 5-6 stretch

People are just making something out of nothing. The Warriors are without their best player who happens to be a top 3 player in the world too....... Cavs without Lebron could easily go 2-5, hell they're having a stretch like that WITH Lebron... and Spurs without Kawhi fell into a 28 point hole v the freakin Kings...

140
03-14-2017, 07:57 PM
WRONG

Spurs in 2013-2014 had a 2-5 stretch
Mavs in 2010-2011 had a 2-7 stretch
Cavs last year had a 2-4 stretch
Heat in 2011-2012 had a 5-6 stretch

People are just making something out of nothing. The Warriors are without their best player who happens to be a top 3 player in the world too....... Cavs without Lebron could easily go 2-5, hell they're having a stretch like that WITH Lebron... and Spurs without Kawhi fell into a 28 point hole v the freakin Kings...
I haven't even checked but I'm willing to bet that stretch is when Dirk got injured tbh

And Caron might have already been injured by then but not 100% sure

Ghazi
03-14-2017, 08:00 PM
Yeah... it was when Dirk got injured

But Durant is injured for the Warriors.

Ghazi
03-14-2017, 08:02 PM
Looking now, it was even worse and a stretch of 10 losses in 13 games.

Ghazi
03-14-2017, 08:03 PM
Even late in that season the boys had a 4 game losing streak

Ghazi
03-14-2017, 08:04 PM
Non-issue. The Cavs show up in the playoffs. The Warriors choke.

22nd ranked defense...:lol

DAF86
03-14-2017, 08:11 PM
WRONG

Spurs in 2013-2014 had a 2-5 stretch
Mavs in 2010-2011 had a 2-7 stretch
Cavs last year had a 2-4 stretch
Heat in 2011-2012 had a 5-6 stretch

People are just making something out of nothing. The Warriors are without their best player who happens to be a top 3 player in the world too....... Cavs without Lebron could easily go 2-5, hell they're having a stretch like that WITH Lebron... and Spurs without Kawhi fell into a 28 point hole v the freakin Kings...

Spurs in 2014 went 2-5 when Leonard was out, Mavs went 2-7 when Dirk was out, I didn't check the other teams but none of those records are as bad as 2-5, tbh.

And this is exactly my point, contenders don't go 2-5 becuse of "coasting" or "boredom", they go 2-5 because stars go down and/or the team is struggling.

My point wasn't that contenders can't go 2-5, it's that if they go 2-5 is because they are struggling, not because they are coasting, tbh.

P/S: When are you changing your favourite team from "Mavericks" to "Warriors", tbh?

Ghazi
03-14-2017, 08:32 PM
I dont care about the Warriors.. as long as Lebron doesn't win a title I'm good... so go Spurs and Warriors.

140
03-14-2017, 08:33 PM
Yeah... it was when Dirk got injured

But Durant is injured for the Warriors.


Looking now, it was even worse and a stretch of 10 losses in 13 games.


Even late in that season the boys had a 4 game losing streak
Well you can't really make a comparison tbh, totally different situations...no one expected us to win that year, we were a dark horse...and our team sans Dirk and Caron had no one of Currys and Thompsons caliber to carry us offensively tbh, so it's only natural we dropped games

Mr. Body
03-14-2017, 10:25 PM
Jumpshooters that depend on rhythm and confidence. They don't have either right now. Curry is no longer in God mode. They can't score by grinding it out, so when they aren't dominant from outside they start panicking a little.

Their emotional core isn't very strong and it never has been. Earlier in the season they sensed this - because they were missing a bulk of their role players - and tried to swagger and posture their way through it. Durant isn't a leader. The only leader they have is Draymond, who is a cock, but at least he wants to win and yell at guys to get them in line. David West and Zaza Pachulia are surly assholes who even their teammates hate.

SpursIndonesia
03-14-2017, 10:55 PM
Jumpshooters that depend on rhythm and confidence. They don't have either right now. Curry is no longer in God mode. They can't score by grinding it out, so when they aren't dominant from outside they start panicking a little.

Their emotional core isn't very strong and it never has been. Earlier in the season they sensed this - because they were missing a bulk of their role players - and tried to swagger and posture their way through it. Durant isn't a leader. The only leader they have is Draymond, who is a cock, but at least he wants to win and yell at guys to get them in line. David West and Zaza Pachulia are surly assholes who even their teammates hate.

Yeah, lucky for them that Thompson is at least reliable playing at home & Green is indeed dependable on defense, Curry is really sucking right now, dry spells from anything further than 10 feet.

Arcadian
03-14-2017, 11:10 PM
Curry fagging it up again...

Killakobe81
03-14-2017, 11:17 PM
They didn't get off to a sizzling start because they had to integrate Durant.

Then Durant went down and they are looking like a non-playoff team since (going 2-5, including the WAS game where Durant went down, beating only the Knicks and Hawks during that time).

Sure Bogut's illegal screens were missed, and Harrison Barnes' offense was important at times, but how can they drop from a 73 win team to such a horrible team when most of their core are still playing?

People (not you) underestimated how mich Durant meant to this team ... plus two straight finals runs? Team usa for most of their core has worn them out (plus they are top heavy)
No excuses though they look lime fried dog shit lately
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Ghazi
03-14-2017, 11:19 PM
down 15... to the Sixers... on 4 days rest :lol

skin27
03-14-2017, 11:26 PM
Warriors can still win this game. Sixers might choke late in 4th..sixers should up the lead to 30 to be safe..

resistanze
03-14-2017, 11:37 PM
:lol Sixers are so dumb

MultiTroll
03-15-2017, 12:02 AM
WarriorRef steps it up.

MultiTroll
03-15-2017, 12:04 AM
McConnel shoot the farking 3.

Gaymond hacking highlites being spun as good D. :lol

D-Wade
03-15-2017, 12:05 AM
Philly still blatantly tanking with that pass to Draymond

Arcadian
03-15-2017, 12:15 AM
:lol Duds barely escaping with a win
:lol Still 2nd place in reality
:lol Faggots

mavsfan1000
03-15-2017, 04:09 AM
They need Barnes.

spursreport
03-15-2017, 06:27 PM
Nothing. Probably bored and uninterested. After a couple long and deep runs in the post season, that following regular season seems so long and tedious and irrelevant. Having a new toy like Durant kept things interesting earlier in the season. Now they're bored and just waiting for the playoffs to get here.

Nope. They are a mentally weak team who is truly unproven when it comes to winning a championship. 2015 was a bs fluky title due to Irving going down. They had their true legit title shot with history on the line and a 3-1 series lead, and they flat out failed. They aren't over that by any means. Those demons will resurface again along with certain teams being able to expose their flaws in the playoffs. When all of that comes clashing together, the Warriors will simply implode.

JamStone
03-29-2017, 11:06 PM
Better?

Still no Durant. Still have an excuse. Same unlikable coach. Same choking mental midgets. Same hating teammates.

Probably a fluke 9 game stretch.