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Ice009
04-10-2017, 12:06 AM
Could be Houston or OKC's shit almost every other team has better record than Lakers ...
I just wanted to know your opinion. I wasn't taking a shot at you, just wanted to know if you're referring to the Spurs as I wanted to know your thoughts on their chances of even just making it to the WCF.
Right now, I'm not even sure what I think of the Spurs chances against anyone. The only thing I am certain of is that Kawhi will play hard in the playoffs and bring it. Any other player on the team, for the first times in years, I don't know what to expect from them.
All I wanted at the start of the season was a shot at the Warriors in the playoffs. That's pretty much what I wanted the past two seasons, but unfortunately the Spurs shit the bed for various reasons and it didn't happen. I thought there was a real shot at that a couple of weeks ago, but right now, I just don't know. I really just want to play the Warriors to see what happens. Spurs look like shit though.
Killakobe81
04-10-2017, 12:12 AM
I should have said, I just wanted to know your opinion. I wasn't taking a shot at you, just wanted to know if you're referring to the Spurs as I really did want to know your thoughts on their chances.
Right now, I'm not even sure what I think of the Spurs chances against anyone. The only thing I am certain of is that Kawhi will play hard in the playoffs and bring it. Any other player on the team, for the first times in years, I don't know what to expect from them.
All I wanted at the start of the season was a shot at the Warriors in the playoffs. That's pretty much what I wanted the past two seasons, but unfortunately the Spurs shit the bed for various reasons and it didn't happen. I thought there was a real shot at that a couple of weeks ago, but right now, I just don't know. I really just want to play the Warriors to see what happens.
I think they make wcf tbh but wont be easy ...
I dont see Rox beating Spurs 4 of 7
Spurs wont roll over for Dubs either ...
I do think their dominance is inflated by how well coached they are
Leonard is great Aldridge is good but i dont think its a title team. The backcourt is shaky and bigs are soft ...but Kiwi is the truth
Ice009
04-10-2017, 12:18 AM
I think they make wcf tbh but wont be easy ...
I dont see Rox beating Spurs 4 of 7
Spurs wont roll over for Dubs either ...
I do think their dominance is inflated by how well coached they are
Leonard is great Aldridge is good but i dont think its a title team. The backcourt is shaky and bigs are soft ...but Kiwi is the truth
Pretty similar opinion to me, especially on the rest of the players. At this point though, I'm not even sure about making it to the WCF with the way the team overall, and the rest of the players are playing. I guess we'll see what happens.
TDMVPDPOY
04-10-2017, 07:33 AM
dunno why they waiting after playoffs is over to hand out these awards...
saving this kent getting embarrassed or voters who got it wrong?
yeh ppl going to wait and watch that show to hand out the awards...fkn what are they thinkn
dunno why they waiting after playoffs is over to hand out these awards...
saving this kent getting embarrassed or voters who got it wrong?
yeh ppl going to wait and watch that show to hand out the awards...fkn what are they thinkn
I wouldn't be surprised if the sensitive players of today's NBA pushed for this to avoid dealing with playoff failure after winning the MVP.
Ice009
04-10-2017, 08:21 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the sensitive players of today's NBA pushed for this to avoid dealing with playoff failure after winning the MVP.
Why would the players push it? I pretty thought it's the NBA behind decision. I thought the NBA may have thought that their product looks bad if they vote someone MVP and then that player gets their ass handed to them. I thought the NBA is behind this. Was it the players?
Clipper Nation
04-10-2017, 08:34 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the sensitive players of today's NBA pushed for this to avoid dealing with playoff failure after winning the MVP.
I highly doubt the players had anything to do with it. It's a business decision. The league office saw the NFL and NHL raking in ad revenue by doing awards shows at the end of the year, and now they want a piece of that action. Not everything is an example of :madrun "muh sensitive players, muh NBA should be exactly the same as the '90s!!!" :madrun
lefty
04-10-2017, 09:43 AM
Swap RW with Kiwi in OKC
Does OKC win more games?
Love Kawhi, but I don't think so as OKC has a crap roster
Does SA win more games?
Maybe not since he wouldn't be a fit with the Spurs system
And every player who has an opportunity to register a triple double will do everything to get that extra assist, rbd, etc
Every player (well except Duncan)
:lmao @ people saying the game last night secured him the mvp. Last night's game was absolutely meaningless to OKC, who's already locked into the sixth spot... but people are gawking at the 50 points and game winner eliminating Denver from the playoffs as if they were going to face each other in the playoffs anyway :lol
basically more garbage time stat padding lol
DJR210
04-10-2017, 02:29 PM
I think Westbrook is a squeaky voice white washed coon who dresses like a retarded faggot, but he's my choice for MVP tbh
lebomb
04-10-2017, 02:45 PM
:lmao @ people saying the game last night secured him the mvp. Last night's game was absolutely meaningless to OKC, who's already locked into the sixth spot... but people are gawking at the 50 points and game winner eliminating Denver from the playoffs as if they were going to face each other in the playoffs anyway :lol
basically more garbage time stat padding lol
Naw playuh......Westbrook WILL win the MVP. :claw
Killakobe81
04-10-2017, 03:46 PM
:lmao @ people saying the game last night secured him the mvp. Last night's game was absolutely meaningless to OKC, who's already locked into the sixth spot... but people are gawking at the 50 points and game winner eliminating Denver from the playoffs as if they were going to face each other in the playoffs anyway :lol
basically more garbage time stat padding lol
Whats with the Drake cover in your avvy, son?
We all know Kendrick bodied Drake with the Heart part 4 ..at least real hiphop heads do ..
Naw playuh......Westbrook WILL win the MVP. :clawthe entire league is behind him at this point, he'll win it easily. I'm just laughing at the nail in the coffin being a worthless game at the end of the season lol
Whats with the Drake cover in your avvy, son?
We all know Kendrick bodied Drake with the Heart part 4 ..at least real hiphop heads do ..This has been my avi since More Life got announced ages ago i just haven't got around to changing it lol
Im a big fan of Kendrick, have been since Overly Dedicated. The Heart of 4 was fire asf especially with that beat switch...but we both know Drake is at the top of the game rn and has been for years. He's Jay Z and Kendrick is Nas.
lebomb
04-10-2017, 04:38 PM
the entire league is behind him at this point, he'll win it easily. I'm just laughing at the nail in the coffin being a worthless game at the end of the season lol
It wasnt worthless. That game eliminated Denver from the playoffs at home!!! :claw
It wasnt worthless. That game eliminated Denver from the playoffs at home!!! :claw
whether or not denver made the playoffs had no bearing on OKC lol
Brazil
04-10-2017, 04:49 PM
:lmao so westbrook just wanted to get Denver out of the picture... why ? he does not like the city or something ?
SpursforSix
04-10-2017, 04:50 PM
Where is the Facebook post fail with the fat bitch talkin bout how she wants a cowboy who's out in the field slinging hay, home cooked meals, Bustin a bronc and some dude tells her that she's a beast? Please help.
http://pic.epicfail.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/sgabSrg.jpg
lebomb
04-10-2017, 06:18 PM
:lmao so westbrook just wanted to get Denver out of the picture... why ? he does not like the city or something ?
Ask him. :rolleyes.
apalisoc_9
04-10-2017, 07:00 PM
The Whole NBA is behind Westbrook. Prior, Harden was the clear cut favourite...Harden's been a bit salty the last couple of games..and deservingly so.
We just have to accept the fact that Westbrook is the player The NBA community wants to label as the new franchise. Regardless if he's worth it ala Kobe.
It's cultural more than anything at this point.
Killakobe81
04-10-2017, 08:27 PM
the entire league is behind him at this point, he'll win it easily. I'm just laughing at the nail in the coffin being a worthless game at the end of the season lol
This has been my avi since More Life got announced ages ago i just haven't got around to changing it lol
Im a big fan of Kendrick, have been since Overly Dedicated. The Heart of 4 was fire asf especially with that beat switch...but we both know Drake is at the top of the game rn and has been for years. He's Jay Z and Kendrick is Nas.
Cant compare Drake to Jay because Drake doesnt have a classic album while Jay arguably has at least 3 personally i think Reasonable doubt is a bit overrated but the blueprint, black album and volume 2 are essential hip hop albums. Drake has lots of hits but even his first true LP is not a classic.
I agree that Kendrick is more like NAS and he has arguably 3 clasdics to drakes none.
Drake has more sales more number 1 singles but lyrically and spitually he is not on Kendrick's level. Even with a team of ghost writers and hit beat makers.
ambchang
04-10-2017, 08:37 PM
:lmao so westbrook just wanted to get Denver out of the picture... why ? he does not like the city or something ?
Stat padders love to rape Denver.
http://pic.epicfail.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/sgabSrg.jpg
:tu
Brazil
04-10-2017, 10:43 PM
Ask him. :rolleyes.
Your capitulation is duly noted.. okc clinched 6th, had nothing to win over this game but play its best player 40 mm because ?
helping him beat the record... if it is not stat padding what is it ?
lebomb
04-11-2017, 06:58 AM
if it is not stat padding what is it ?
:claw ............... heart
WB plays hard all the time. I guess you niggras want him to take a night off since the reg season is almost over. Not WB, he brings it every night. :ihit
Brazil
04-11-2017, 07:00 AM
^ yeah sure... :rolleyes
Clipper Nation
04-11-2017, 07:23 AM
the entire league is behind him at this point, he'll win it easily. I'm just laughing at the nail in the coffin being a worthless game at the end of the season lol
This has been my avi since More Life got announced ages ago i just haven't got around to changing it lol
Im a big fan of Kendrick, have been since Overly Dedicated. The Heart of 4 was fire asf especially with that beat switch...but we both know Drake is at the top of the game rn and has been for years. He's Jay Z and Kendrick is Nas.
Drake has been bodied by Common, Joe Budden, Kendrick, etc. without any response. And Views was trash. Nobody takes Drake seriously anymore. He still sells lots of records, but so do Nickelback and Justin Bieber.
Drake doesn't even belong in the same language as Jay, let alone the same sentence. Jay is one of the best to ever do it. Drake is a hypebeast who relies on ghostwriters, biting any sound/flow that is popular at the moment, and stealing songs from the artists he signs for his own albums.
redzero
04-11-2017, 07:39 AM
I'd love to hate on Westbrook, but if the answer to his amazing stats was simply "ball-hogging," why has nobody accomplished what he has done in 50 years?
lebomb
04-11-2017, 08:04 AM
I'd love to hate on Westbrook, but if the answer to his amazing stats was simply "ball-hogging," why has nobody accomplished what he has done in 50 years?
Exactly....... everyone acts like he is out there all alone. No one on the other side is playing defense. If someone wanted to halt his triple doubles, they should double team him. Hate the game, dont hate the playuh. :claw
Kyle Orton
04-11-2017, 11:24 AM
Damn did Cowherd just say OKC is 10-0 in Russell's 10 games of fewest fga this season? :wow
Brazil
04-11-2017, 12:18 PM
850567356786941952
:lol
lebomb
04-11-2017, 12:45 PM
850567356786941952
:lol
Screw that faggot. If I was at 41, I would damn sure make sure I set the new record at 42. Records are meant to be broken. Besides that when WB gets a trip dub they win 80% of the time. I already stated this shit. So its a win win.
Brazil
04-11-2017, 12:49 PM
Screw that faggot. If I was at 41, I would damn sure make sure I set the new record at 42. Records are meant to be broken. Besides that when WB gets a trip dub they win 80% of the time. I already stated this shit. So its a win win.
ya and OKC is 10/0 when he doesnt shoot like a whore
what WBitch is doing there is simply put disgusting... he can go fuck himself, never has won anything never will
lebomb
04-11-2017, 12:58 PM
ya and OKC is 10/0 when he doesnt shoot like a whore
what WBitch is doing there is simply put disgusting... he can go fuck himself, never has won anything never will
Either way, putting up huge scoring numbers or smaller scoring numbers but still a triple double and they win. Look it up, run the numbers.
skmblz
04-11-2017, 01:08 PM
I'd love to hate on Westbrook, but if the answer to his amazing stats was simply "ball-hogging," why has nobody accomplished what he has done in 50 years?
because nobody was selfish enough to put his personal numbers above the well being of his team/teammembers. plus he can do whatever he wants in okc, the whole system is designed to get him tripdubs. pathetic.
ambchang
04-11-2017, 01:08 PM
Screw that faggot. If I was at 41, I would damn sure make sure I set the new record at 42. Records are meant to be broken. Besides that when WB gets a trip dub they win 80% of the time. I already stated this shit. So its a win win.
The problem with that 80% argument is that it assumes the triple doubles are coming organically, and that when RWB didn't get one, he and his team wasn't trying to get one.
The issue is, if a team is centering the entire purpose around getting a player to have a triple double, the team is also tuning its success around it. It is the same as having a volume scorer score all the points for a team (see AI 6ers). Guess what happens when said scorer can't score? They lose.
Same thing is happening to RWB and the Thunder. The entire idea is for RWB to get a triple double, and if he isn't getting one, it means that the system failed, and as such, the team losses at a higher rate.
Another note, James Harden has 21 TDs this year already, that is the most TDs since Oscar did it 50 years ago. I wonder why nobody can get to those heights in 50 years, and then all of a sudden, TWO players did it in the same season. It appears this is more a circumstantial situation more than anything else. Again, not dogging on the accomplishment because i think it's amazing, but I do question why suddenly two players in the same year can do something that wasn't done for 50 years.
lebomb
04-11-2017, 01:13 PM
The problem with that 80% argument is that it assumes the triple doubles are coming organically, and that when RWB didn't get one, he and his team wasn't trying to get one.
The issue is, if a team is centering the entire purpose around getting a player to have a triple double, the team is also tuning its success around it. It is the same as having a volume scorer score all the points for a team (see AI 6ers). Guess what happens when said scorer can't score? They lose.
Same thing is happening to RWB and the Thunder. The entire idea is for RWB to get a triple double, and if he isn't getting one, it means that the system failed, and as such, the team losses at a higher rate.
Another note, James Harden has 21 TDs this year already, that is the most TDs since Oscar did it 50 years ago. I wonder why nobody can get to those heights in 50 years, and then all of a sudden, TWO players did it in the same season. It appears this is more a circumstantial situation more than anything else. Again, not dogging on the accomplishment because i think it's amazing, but I do question why suddenly two players in the same year can do something that wasn't done for 50 years.
Doesnt not matter one bit. If you win with a system, what is the problem. I could see if him avergaging a trip dub accounted in a 40% win percentage, but it results in a win. So there should not be any issues with it. Noone said shit when Curry jacks up 3's when you have a fast break or when he takes a bad 3 in crunch time. If you win, it doesnt matter.
Brazil
04-11-2017, 01:35 PM
Either way, putting up huge scoring numbers or smaller scoring numbers but still a triple double and they win. Look it up, run the numbers.
Eitherway OKC is 46/34 with 18/22 on the road
and is 10/0 when Westchimp stays in check and let his teammates opportunity to play
you are a Spurs and Duncan fan, not sure how you can defend a brainless dude passing up a wide open corner 3 to stat pad his assists or play 40 mn in meaningless games when POs are around the corner.
Brazil
04-11-2017, 01:38 PM
Doesnt not matter one bit. If you win with a system, what is the problem. I could see if him avergaging a trip dub accounted in a 40% win percentage, but it results in a win. So there should not be any issues with it. Noone said shit when Curry jacks up 3's when you have a fast break or when he takes a bad 3 in crunch time. If you win, it doesnt matter.
Except OKC is not 80% OKC is 46/34 because guess what you can't get triple doubles for all 82 games
So this system about force feeding a single player is nice to get a certain player records not to progress as a team
lebomb
04-11-2017, 01:48 PM
Except OKC is not 80% OKC is 46/34 because guess what you can't get triple doubles for all 82 games
So this system about force feeding a single player is nice to get a certain player records not to progress as a team
LOL..........thats the ONLY reason they are 46-34. Without his trip dubs, they are 24-58 and heading to the lottery. :claw
spurraider21
04-11-2017, 02:07 PM
If they give that stupid fuck the MVP for doing that shit I won't watch basketball again, because it means nothing. It has become the WWE.lol snowflake. will give up on a hobby because of a media award :lol
Brazil
04-11-2017, 02:14 PM
LOL..........thats the ONLY reason they are 46-34. Without his trip dubs, they are 24-58 and heading to the lottery. :claw
no OKC has good players there are no reasons why they should not a > 50 wins team easily especially in this watered down league... Only reason they suck is because their star player is an ego maniac chasing records instead of trying to help his team get better.
dude is a massive chimp shooting like one... 42% usage :lmao
baseline bum
04-11-2017, 02:27 PM
no OKC has good players there are no reasons why they should not a > 50 wins team easily especially in this watered down league... Only reason they suck is because their star player is an ego maniac chasing records instead of trying to help his team get better.
dude is a massive chimp shooting like one... 42% usage :lmao
This man. I'd give Harden the MVP. He's putting up killer stats while still winning a lot of games with a weaker supporting cast than either Westbrook or Leonard have.
Brazil
04-11-2017, 02:38 PM
This man. I'd give Harden the MVP. He's putting up killer stats while still winning a lot of games with a weaker supporting cast than either Westbrook or Leonard have.
Agreed...I'd go Kawhi (no homer tbh) Harden Lebron and Westchimp
Kawhi has it all, he is efficient, play both side of the ball, his team second best in the league and his team is quite crap without him but I have no issue with a harden pick... but westchimp... please.. how in hell it is valuable for his team to pass a wide open corner 3 to stat pad his assists and by consequences how that is being the most valuable of the league...
skmblz
04-11-2017, 02:43 PM
Agreed...I'd go Kawhi (no homer tbh) Harden Lebron and Westchimp
Kawhi has it all, he is efficient, play both side of the ball, his team second best in the league and his team is quite crap without him but I have no issue with a harden pick... but westchimp... please.. how in hell it is valuable for his team to pass a wide open corner 3 to stat pad his assists and by consequences how that is being the most valuable of the league...
Agree
but i have one problem picking harden. he sets a new record for most to in one season. cant give him mvp for that. for me its kiwi or lebron
lebomb
04-11-2017, 02:46 PM
The Thunder have by FAR the worst supporting cast compared to Cleveland, Houston and the Spurs. Shit aint even close. :lol
lebomb
04-11-2017, 02:47 PM
DMC better enjoy watching whatever else. He wont be watching basketball, because WB is about to MVP nigga.
baseline bum
04-11-2017, 02:58 PM
The Thunder have by FAR the worst supporting cast compared to Cleveland, Houston and the Spurs. Shit aint even close. :lol
Yeah Clint Capella and Ryan Anderson are better than Stephen Adams, Enes Kanter, and Taj Gibson. I don't think the Lou Williams trade makes up for that deficit in the frontcourt.
ambchang
04-11-2017, 03:08 PM
Doesnt not matter one bit. If you win with a system, what is the problem. I could see if him avergaging a trip dub accounted in a 40% win percentage, but it results in a win. So there should not be any issues with it. Noone said shit when Curry jacks up 3's when you have a fast break or when he takes a bad 3 in crunch time. If you win, it doesnt matter.
Then it speaks to an enabling system, and not around how Westbrook is the best since the Big O.
Clipper Nation
04-11-2017, 03:45 PM
This man. I'd give Harden the MVP. He's putting up killer stats while still winning a lot of games with a weaker supporting cast than either Westbrook or Leonard have.
Frauden's stats are a product of the officiating, and Nenê, Gordon, Anderson and Ariza shit on anyone Westbrook's been playing with.
Brazil
04-11-2017, 03:46 PM
The Thunder have by FAR the worst supporting cast compared to Cleveland, Houston and the Spurs. Shit aint even close. :lol
:lol
Westchimp is making them worst than they are... Oladipo is 24 y/o shoots better from everywhere than wb but his usage is lowest of his young career... how do you want him to progress with this ball hog ?
Brazil
04-11-2017, 03:48 PM
850567356786941952
:lol
I mean... wtf tbh... never seen anything like that
Clipper Nation
04-11-2017, 03:55 PM
Fun fact: Frauden is only averaging two fewer uncontested rebounds per game than Westbrook is. I'm curious to know why nobody's getting on him for :cry "stat-padding" :cry.
Frauden is padding his stats according to the standards Westbrook is held to. He has D'Antoni padding his stats for him. He has the refs padding his stats for him. He has the better supporting cast. And even with all that help, he can't do what Russ is doing.
If Frauden was gifted MVP, he'd join Rose, Kobe and Nash on the list of most fraudulent MVPs ever. Thankfully, it's going to an actually deserving player instead.
lebomb
04-11-2017, 04:01 PM
:lol
Westchimp is making them worst than they are... Oladipo is 24 y/o shoots better from everywhere than wb but his usage is lowest of his young career... how do you want him to progress with this ball hog ?
Really? He is very similar to DBust......look at his stats. He has one good game, then 10 horrible shooting efforts. Against Denver he was 3-15 from the field and 0-6 from 3pt land. :rolleyes
The two games prior he was 1-8 from 3pt land combined. The magic didnt see enough in him to invest in his youth and build around him. They traded his ass.
baseline bum
04-11-2017, 04:03 PM
Frauden is padding his stats according to the standards Westbrook is held to. He has D'Antoni padding his stats for him. He has the refs padding his stats for him. He has the better supporting cast. And even with all that help, he can't do what Russ is doing.
Harden is actually winning games for his team despite a weaker supporting cast than what Westbrook has.
baseline bum
04-11-2017, 04:03 PM
I mean... wtf tbh... never seen anything like that
I have, out of Rondo.
Clipper Nation
04-11-2017, 04:08 PM
Harden is actually winning games for his team despite a weaker supporting cast than what Westbrook has.
:lol The Rockets barely miss a beat when Frauden goes to the bench. Per 100 possessions, they're +6.7 with Frauden and +4.8 without him. The refs, the D'Antoni system and the Rockets' depth are winning those games, Frauden's just taking all the credit.
In no way, shape or form is Frauden's supporting cast worse than Westbrook's. The Thunder would be worse than the Nets without Russ.
Brazil
04-11-2017, 04:13 PM
I have, out of Rondo.
not by a MVP candidate tho
but yes rondo was a stat whore in his time passing shots after shots to stat pad assists
Brazil
04-11-2017, 04:15 PM
Really? He is very similar to DBust......look at his stats. He has one good game, then 10 horrible shooting efforts. Against Denver he was 3-15 from the field and 0-6 from 3pt land. :rolleyes
The two games prior he was 1-8 from 3pt land combined. The magic didnt see enough in him to invest in his youth and build around him. They traded his ass.
:lol
he still shoots better than westbrook
like westbrook is not familiar of crap shooting games but there not 1/8 but 6/25 :lmao
redzero
04-11-2017, 04:29 PM
because nobody was selfish enough to put his personal numbers above the well being of his team/teammembers. plus he can do whatever he wants in okc, the whole system is designed to get him tripdubs. pathetic.
There have been All Star caliber players who ball-hog on shitty teams for decades, and yet nobody has put up numbers like Westbrook. Ball-hogging alone is not a good enough answer for why Westbrook averages a triple double and has had more triple doubles in one season than anybody ever.
lebomb
04-11-2017, 04:46 PM
There have been All Star caliber players who ball-hog on shitty teams for decades, and yet nobody has put up numbers like Westbrook. Ball-hogging alone is not a good enough answer for why Westbrook averages a triple double and has had more triple doubles in one season than anybody ever.
Some of us get it. A triple double is hard to get. Ask Lebron James.......see his congratulatory video to WB. :claw
lefty
04-11-2017, 04:57 PM
He has a point
https://twitter.com/TheHerd/status/849684636091375617
Splits, embed
Cant compare Drake to Jay because Drake doesnt have a classic album while Jay arguably has at least 3 personally i think Reasonable doubt is a bit overrated but the blueprint, black album and volume 2 are essential hip hop albums. Drake has lots of hits but even his first true LP is not a classic.
I agree that Kendrick is more like NAS and he has arguably 3 clasdics to drakes none.
Drake has more sales more number 1 singles but lyrically and spitually he is not on Kendrick's level. Even with a team of ghost writers and hit beat makers.I was comparing their place in the game. Drake is the biggest rapper commercially, Drake been holding the radio down for 7-8 straight summers.
Jay is obviously the better rapper, but there are more parallels there with the biting flows(Drake jacking Big Sean flow, although Sean didn't make that flow../Jay jacking Yougn Chris flow..) and taking lyrics accusations(Drake's Quentin Miller situation/Jay stole a lot of lines, mostly Big's). For both artist, if you don't like them, youcan use this shit to discredit them, but for every flow they took they got ten hot ones they coined first. For every bar they took, they got 100 fuego ass bars they wrote themselves. The Drake ghostwriting accusations have always been silly to me because everyone knows he came in the game ghostwriting for hella people(Wayne..). Also, lol @ hit beat makers. Give 100 niggas a Drake beat and they won't make a hit, hell give Kendrick 40's production for an album and he won't make those hits. Give Drake his credit, he got a good ear for beats and also how to take a seemingly regular beat and hoppign on it and turning it into a hit.
When it comes to albums, for me i think it goes
1. Reasonable Doubt
2. The Blueprint
3. The Black Album
4. Vol. 3
5. American Gangster
Vol 3 criminally slept on.
Drake has at least two classics with Take Care and NWTS, and no real bad albums from TML to Views(although Views was the first album where it was debatable..). Take Care to What A Time was a crazy run of quality ass rap songs and radio hits. If you hate him or an old head who don't really fuck with new shit then you won't see it that way though..
Kendrick definitely one of the best lyricist in the game, the best on the mainstream level for sure. Might pass up Nas for me if he drops another classic with "DAMN". The Rihanna and U2 feature scare me though.
Fun fact: Frauden is only averaging two fewer uncontested rebounds per game than Westbrook is. I'm curious to know why nobody's getting on him for :cry "stat-padding" :cry.
Frauden is padding his stats according to the standards Westbrook is held to. He has D'Antoni padding his stats for him. He has the refs padding his stats for him. He has the better supporting cast. And even with all that help, he can't do what Russ is doing.
If Frauden was gifted MVP, he'd join Rose, Kobe and Nash on the list of most fraudulent MVPs ever. Thankfully, it's going to an actually deserving player instead.
Brah you act like 2 uncontested rebounds per game is an insignificant amount. Harden is at 8.1 rpg, so he would be averaging a triple double as well if his teammates were getting out of his way so he could grab a board two more times per game. :lol
Drake has been bodied by Common, Joe Budden, Kendrick, etc. without any response. And Views was trash. Nobody takes Drake seriously anymore. He still sells lots of records, but so do Nickelback and Justin Bieber.
Drake doesn't even belong in the same language as Jay, let alone the same sentence. Jay is one of the best to ever do it. Drake is a hypebeast who relies on ghostwriters, biting any sound/flow that is popular at the moment, and stealing songs from the artists he signs for his own albums.The Common beef was weak, and Common only started it for album sales and because Drake was fucking his ex Serena Williams. Common's only material in the beef was that "Drake is soft", but that's ironic coming from the original bitch ass rnb rapper.
Joe is a washed rapper, who's just a radio/podcast/reality tv personality these days. Go listen to 4pm in Calabassas though, it was a diss towards diddy but he also disses Budden. "I got a lot to lose 'cause in every situation I'm the bigger artist Always gotta play it smarter" :worthy:
Drake and Kenny beef has just been a bunch of subliminals since crica 2013 when did Kendrick body him?
Clipper Nation
04-11-2017, 06:01 PM
Brah you act like 2 uncontested rebounds per game is an insignificant amount. Harden is at 8.1 rpg, so he would be averaging a triple double as well if his teammates were getting out of his way so he could grab a board two more times per game. :lol
With the way Westbrook's haters make it sound, you'd think he was the only player in NBA history to get any uncontested rebounds.
If we're going to play the hypothetical game, if Westbrook got the bullshit calls that Frauden does on offense, he'd be averaging even more points per game than he already does. If Westbrook had Frauden's supporting cast, there wouldn't be a "wins vs. stats" debate because Westbrook would have the advantage in both.
spurraider21
04-11-2017, 06:02 PM
Brah you act like 2 uncontested rebounds per game is an insignificant amount. Harden is at 8.1 rpg, so he would be averaging a triple double as well if his teammates were getting out of his way so he could grab a board two more times per game. :lol
Yeah he's destroying his own argument.
If Harden stat padded rebounds as much as Westbrook, he'd be averaging a triple double too, which is the entire basis for Westbrooks candidacy than CN is jizzing over
Once you take away the artificial hype over triple doubles, Harden is leading a worse team to more success than Westbrook
Clipper Nation
04-11-2017, 06:04 PM
The Common beef was weak, and Common only started it for album sales and because Drake was fucking his ex Serena Williams. Common only mterial in the beef was that "Drake is soft" but that's ironic coming from the original bitch ass rnb rapper.
Joe is a washed rapper who's just a radio/podcast/reality tv personality these days. Go listen to 4pm in Calabassas though, it was diddy diss but he also diss Budden "I got a lot to lose 'cause in every situation I'm the bigger artist Always gotta play it smarter" :worthy:
Drake and Kenny beef has just been a bunch of subliminals since crica 2013 when did Kendrick body him?
Sounds like a lot of excuses for Drake taking subliminals at all these guys and then running and hiding when they respond, tbh. I guess Quentin Miller couldn't write any good replies for him?
baseline bum
04-11-2017, 06:10 PM
If we're going to play the hypothetical game, if Westbrook got the bullshit calls that Frauden does on offense
He does and has for years.
Clipper Nation
04-11-2017, 06:10 PM
:lol Westbrook's haters still haven't explained how Nenê, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza and Ryan Anderson are worse than Steven Adams and garbage. You guys just keep repeating that Frauden has the worse team without any facts to back it up. Just accept the fact that Westbrook is the better player, the more valuable player and the more deserving player. You'd have a better case arguing for Kawhi instead of Frauden.
He does and has for years.
How quickly people forget lol
Westbrook is a statpadder, period.
He averages the same amount of ORB/per game as he always has, but averages a whole 9 DRB/per game this year mostly due to hunting rebounds and his teammates moving out of the way for him. Only Gobert and Whiteside have contested less 3s than WB...In the entire league, lol
let that sink in
Killakobe81
04-11-2017, 09:22 PM
Harden is actually winning games for his team despite a weaker supporting cast than what Westbrook has.
Huh? Debatable. Harden has the more proven coach and system ...
And I would rather Have his cast than OKC's ...
Killakobe81
04-11-2017, 09:27 PM
:lol Westbrook's haters still haven't explained how Nenê, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza and Ryan Anderson are worse than Steven Adams and garbage. You guys just keep repeating that Frauden has the worse team without any facts to back it up. Just accept the fact that Westbrook is the better player, the more valuable player and the more deserving player. You'd have a better case arguing for Kawhi instead of Frauden.
though Harden is also worthy ... I agree with CN. only thing I don't like about Harden is his flailing and flops ...
he still a problem but Russ is like a poor man's LeBron without the vision or height ... everyone chasing unicorns I want the athletic freaks like LeBron and Russ especially when they can ball
lebomb
04-11-2017, 09:36 PM
No shit.....I would take Houstons other players over OKCs all day.
lebomb
04-11-2017, 09:43 PM
though Harden is also worthy ... I agree with CN. only thing I don't like about Harden is his flailing and flops ...
he still a problem but Russ is like a poor man's LeBron without the vision or height ... everyone chasing unicorns I want the athletic freaks like LeBron and Russ especially when they can ball
Agreed!!! Nothing against Harden, but Westbrook is on a whole nother level of explosiveness.
lefty
04-11-2017, 10:04 PM
Cowherd is right tbh
Dude is shooting 42% and has the worst assist turnover ratio of any PG :lol
lebomb
04-12-2017, 07:42 AM
Cowherd is right tbh
Dude is shooting 42% and has the worst assist turnover ratio of any PG :lol
Coherd isnt the coach. If the coach knows the ball has to be in Westbrook's hands the majority of the time and he needs to do all the scoring in order for them to win. You have to believe in what the coach believes.
lefty
04-12-2017, 09:33 AM
Coherd isnt the coach. If the coach knows the ball has to be in Westbrook's hands the majority of the time and he needs to do all the scoring in order for them to win. You have to believe in what the coach believes.
Coach is just afraid to bump heads with the only star left in OKC and lose his job, of course he wants RW to pad stats
lebomb
04-12-2017, 09:37 AM
Coach is just afraid to bump heads with the only star left in OKC and lose his job, of course he wants RW to pad stats
Oladipo had a decent game last night 20,9 and 6. :claw
LkrFan
04-12-2017, 10:17 AM
I highly doubt the players had anything to do with it. It's a business decision. The league office saw the NFL and NHL raking in ad revenue by doing awards shows at the end of the year, and now they want a piece of that action. Not everything is an example of :madrun "muh sensitive players, muh NBA should be exactly the same as the '90s!!!" :madrun
Has LeHype ever had a season like this? If not, how is he better than Westbrook? :downspin:
Brazil
04-12-2017, 10:25 AM
Westchimp is the worst or best if you prefer stat padder ever... rondo is a virgin stat padder compared to westchimp...
Brazil
04-12-2017, 10:29 AM
Brah you act like 2 uncontested rebounds per game is an insignificant amount. Harden is at 8.1 rpg, so he would be averaging a triple double as well if his teammates were getting out of his way so he could grab a board two more times per game. :lol
this
also give Harden same usage than Westchimp and see the results... westchimp has 42% usage highest ever by wide margin :lmao
:cry but but why nobody did it before :cry
Clipper Nation
04-12-2017, 10:34 AM
Has LeHype ever had a season like this? If not, how is he better than Westbrook? :downspin:
Has Russ ever led his team in every major statistical category before? "LeHype" did it in 2008-09.
How many seasons of at least 25/6/6/1 has Westbrook had? "LeHype" has done it every year except for his rookie year.
Russ is a beast, but he's no LeBron. Nice try, Cristobal. :downspin:
spurraider21
04-12-2017, 11:56 AM
:lol Westbrook's haters still haven't explained how Nenê, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza and Ryan Anderson are worse than Steven Adams and garbage. You guys just keep repeating that Frauden has the worse team without any facts to back it up. Just accept the fact that Westbrook is the better player, the more valuable player and the more deserving player. You'd have a better case arguing for Kawhi instead of Frauden.
Always a great argument. "Just accept the fact that -insert adverse position-"
RD2191
04-12-2017, 01:21 PM
A player who puts stats above winning should never be the MVP. It's pathetic what some of these teams are doing for individual accolades.
lebomb
04-12-2017, 01:22 PM
A player who puts stats above winning should never be the MVP. It's pathetic what some of these teams are doing for individual accolades.
Really? Curry chuckin up 900 3pts in a single season won him an MVP award. If that isnt stat padding, I dont know what is.
spurraider21
04-12-2017, 01:30 PM
Really? Curry chuckin up 900 3pts in a single season won him an MVP award. If that isnt stat padding, I dont know what is.
He was making over 45% of them and was clearly their best player and led them to an all time best regular season record (it's a regular season award)
His threes were winning them games, and he barely played in 4th quarters last year. Not like he was out there in the last 2 minutes down 30 trying to make more threes for the box score
Clipper Nation
04-12-2017, 01:42 PM
A player who puts stats above winning should never be the MVP. It's pathetic what some of these teams are doing for individual accolades.
I agree. Kobe winning MVP was a travesty. Thankfully, there's no stats-over-winning players in the field this year.
spurraider21
04-12-2017, 02:10 PM
I agree. Kobe winning MVP was a travesty. Thankfully, there's no stats-over-winning players in the field this year.
850567356786941952
:lol
Mikeanaro
04-12-2017, 02:22 PM
You cant give the award to some stat padder whose team got a 6th seed, thats not a big accomplishment, now if his team was a 2nd or 3rd seed that would be another story.
Thats not a Most Valuable Player, thats a Most Cancerous Player.
Clipper Nation
04-12-2017, 02:57 PM
Westbrook is a stats-AND-winning player, not a stats-OVER-winning player.
lefty
04-12-2017, 03:00 PM
Westbrook is a stats-AND-winning player, not a stats-OVER-winning player.
Nobody is questioning his competitive spirit
But he stat pads
Brazil
04-12-2017, 03:41 PM
But he stat pads a lot
fify
Brazil
04-12-2017, 03:45 PM
Really? Curry chuckin up 900 3pts in a single season won him an MVP award. If that isnt stat padding, I dont know what is.
what a terrible comparaison :lol
:lol 8,6 uncontested rebounds per game
:lol a whole team organized for a player to grab rebounds
:lol all time high 42% usage
:lol bigger chucker and selfish player than kobe
:lol passing up a wide open 3 to stat pad an assist and fail
:lol not even 50 wins mvp
lebomb
04-12-2017, 03:55 PM
He was making over 45% of them and was clearly their best player and led them to an all time best regular season record (it's a regular season award)
His threes were winning them games, and he barely played in 4th quarters last year. Not like he was out there in the last 2 minutes down 30 trying to make more threes for the box score
Killing your argument. WB trip dubs won 80% of their games, and he played 10 less minutes a game than Big O did to get his 41 trip dubs. :lol
Westbrook is a start chaser. He was gunning for the all-star game MVP until they stopped passing him the ball to give it to AD.
lebomb
04-12-2017, 03:59 PM
what a terrible comparaison :lol
:lol 8,6 uncontested rebounds per game
:lol a whole team organized for a player to grab rebounds
:lol all time high 42% usage
:lol bigger chucker and selfish player than kobe
:lol passing up a wide open 3 to stat pad an assist and fail
:lol not even 50 wins mvp
What?
:lol
Curry shootin a 3 down by 1 with 10 sec left in game
4 on 2 fast break and Curry shoots a 3
First shot taken is a 3, no ball movement
2pt shot could have won the game, shot a 3 instead
loaded team gets them to 60 wins
Get tha fugg outta here. Curry has chucked stat padded away big time, just on 3's.
:lol
Brazil
04-12-2017, 04:03 PM
What?
:lol
Curry shootin a 3 down by 1 with 10 sec left in game
4 on 2 fast break and Curry shoots a 3
First shot taken is a 3, no ball movement
2pt shot could have won the game, shot a 3 instead
loaded team gets them to 60 wins
Get tha fugg outta here. Curry has chucked stat padded away big time, just on 3's.
:lol
:lol still a terrible comparaison
:lol 42% usage
:lol 8,6 uncontested rebounds
:lol building a team not to win games but stat pad a player
oh and :lmao 42% usage !
:lol 29 8 11 34% usage > 32 10 (9 uncontested) and 10 42% usage
:lol Harden more MVP than westchimp
lebomb
04-12-2017, 04:09 PM
:lol still a terrible comparaison
:lol 42% usage
:lol 8,6 uncontested rebounds
:lol building a team not to win games but stat pad a player
oh and :lmao 42% usage !
:lol 29 8 11 34% usage > 32 10 (9 uncontested) and 10 42% usage
:lol Harden more MVP than westchimp
Its inevitable......WB will be MVP. Dont believe me juss watch :claw
spurraider21
04-12-2017, 04:14 PM
Killing your argument. WB trip dubs won 80% of their games, and he played 10 less minutes a game than Big O did to get his 41 trip dubs. :lol
Killing my argument? Curry put the games on ice in the third largely because of his 3 point shooting. He wasn't padding stats. That destroys your argument, not mine (you said curry padded his threes).
Instead you have games where OKC is down 20+ with 2 minutes to go and Westbrook is out there gunning to get that one last assist for muh triple double
Brazil
04-12-2017, 04:17 PM
Its inevitable......WB will be MVP. Dont believe me juss watch :claw
Oh I know
still
Kawhi>Harden>Lebron>Westchimp
lebomb
04-12-2017, 04:31 PM
Oh I know
still
Kawhi>Harden>Lebron>Westchimp
Westbrook......................................... ....................>Harden>Kawhi>Lebron............................................ .............................>everyone else. :claw
Brazil
04-12-2017, 04:46 PM
^sure :lmao
Clipper Nation
04-12-2017, 04:51 PM
Frauden doesn't even belong in the conversation. That faggot is a product of the refs, D'Antoni and the Rockets' stacked roster.
spurraider21
04-12-2017, 05:06 PM
Frauden doesn't even belong in the conversation. That faggot is a product of the refs, D'Antoni and the Rockets' stacked roster.
Being a broken record doesn't make it true.
LkrFan
04-12-2017, 10:18 PM
Has Russ ever led his team in every major statistical category before? "LeHype" did it in 2008-09.
How many seasons of at least 25/6/6/1 has Westbrook had? "LeHype" has done it every year except for his rookie year.
Russ is a beast, but he's no LeBron. Nice try, Cristobal. :downspin:
:lol
< 0.500 Finals rec:lolrd
Killing your argument. WB trip dubs won 80% of their games, and he played 10 less minutes a game than Big O did to get his 41 trip dubs. :lol
Westbrook is part of a group of really good players who are on mediocre teams who have decided early on to attempt to construct their own body of work by just plugging in the numbers, and hoping that it sticks to them and puts them in the same air as the legends. If nothing else, they just want to sell merchandise and have talking points during contract negotiations. That's why someone like Russ would give 2 shits about the ASG MVP, because it's another brick in the heartless/soulless wall of comparative stats that the casual NBA fan (like you) can latch onto and bandwagon as if you're rooting for a real winner.
Basically Russ is a fugazi.
Media knows this but they are trying to sell copy as well so they play along.
:lol
< 0.500 Finals rec:lolrd
Lakers are 16 - 31, 0.510 Finals rec:lolrd
LkrFan
04-13-2017, 04:04 PM
Lakers are 16 - 31, 0.510 Finals rec:lolrd
16 > 4.61** :lol
**denotes 1999 was light 32 games. Therefore Spurs earned 0.61 title details year
:downspin:
Clipper Nation
04-13-2017, 04:20 PM
:lol
< 0.500 Finals rec:lolrd
Yes, Westbrook does have that. (Mostly thanks to KD and Frauden's chokejobs.)
16 > 4.61** :lol
**denotes 1999 was light 32 games. Therefore Spurs earned 0.61 title details year
:downspin:
Only pussies and assholes qualify rings.
LkrFan
04-13-2017, 06:44 PM
Only pussies and assholes qualify rings.
:lol
LkrFan
04-13-2017, 06:46 PM
Yes, Westbrook does have that. (Mostly thanks to KD and Frauden's chokejobs.)
Since LeHype is so damn versatile, how come he NEVER averaged a triple dub? Westbrook did. :)
Clipper Nation
04-13-2017, 06:54 PM
Since LeHype is so damn versatile, how come he NEVER averaged a triple dub? Westbrook did. :)
Why couldn't Kobe average one during his stat-padding prime? Contéstame ese, Gualterio. :downspin:
LkrFan
04-13-2017, 07:54 PM
Why couldn't Kobe average one during his stat-padding prime? Contéstame ese, Gualterio. :downspin:
Not his role. His role was to win 5 rangs. He played it much better than LeHype :downspin:
lefty
04-13-2017, 08:37 PM
Since LeHype is so damn versatile, how come he NEVER averaged a triple dub? Westbrook did. :)
Because he doesn't stat pad, Alvaro
Clipper Nation
04-13-2017, 10:36 PM
Not his role. His role was to win 5 rangs. He played it much better than LeHype :downspin:
Kobe ran Shaq out of town specifically so he could hog the ball and pad his stats in his prime, and you're telling me he couldn't average a triple-double for just one fuckin' season? But hey, at least you're finally admitting that Kobe was a role player, Reynardo.
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 07:31 AM
Kobe ran Shaq out of town specifically so he could hog the ball and pad his stats in his prime, and you're telling me he couldn't average a triple-double for just one fuckin' season? But hey, at least you're finally admitting that Kobe was a role player, Reynardo.
:lol
-15 points for deflecting. After Kobe evicted Snaq, it went a little something like this - Kobe 2, Snaq 1. If not for Stern's disdain for Mark Cuban, Snaq is stuck on 3.
Anywho, hard to "pad stats" with players like Kwame, Smush Parker, Cook, Chris Mihm, and Luke Walton on your roster. Despite it all, Kobe still is 2nd in Lakers history in assists and #1 in scoring (to go with 2 more rangs than Martin Lou to the Kang :toast).
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 07:39 AM
Because he doesn't stat pad, Alvaro
:lol
Bullshit. I've seen that dickhead still in the game, up 20+, sitting on 28/9/8 with 8 minutes to go in the game. This is when he should be getting rest, but no, he'd rather take games off rather than lose a chance at a triple dub which is PATHETIC tbh. Despite how much he dominates the ball, Westbrook still had 29 more triple dubs! BAAAAAAAHAHAHA! :rollin :lmao :rollin
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 07:40 AM
Westbrook has surpassed the Kang. That's funny :lol
ambchang
04-14-2017, 08:01 AM
Westbrook has surpassed the Kang. That's funny :lol
That means Westbrook is way ahead of Kobe.
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 08:29 AM
That means Westbrook is way ahead of Kobe.
I know English is your 3rd language, but since when is 3 > 5?
Clipper Nation
04-14-2017, 08:57 AM
:lol
-15 points for deflecting. After Kobe evicted Snaq, it went a little something like this - Kobe 2, Snaq 1. If not for Stern's disdain for Mark Cuban, Snaq is stuck on 3.
Anywho, hard to "pad stats" with players like Kwame, Smush Parker, Cook, Chris Mihm, and Luke Walton on your roster. Despite it all, Kobe still is 2nd in Lakers history in assists and #1 in scoring (to go with 2 more rangs than Martin Lou to the Kang :toast).
Kobe could have kept playing with Shaq. He chose to play with Kwame, Smush, Cook, Mihm and Walton instead. And how convenient that you leave out prime Odom and Caron Butler, whom D-Wade had previously won a playoff series with as a rookie. -48.5 points for that piss-poor :downspin: job, Casimiro.
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 11:37 AM
Kobe could have kept playing with Shaq. He chose to play with Kwame, Smush, Cook, Mihm and Walton instead. And how convenient that you leave out prime Odom and Caron Butler, whom D-Wade had previously won a playoff series with as a rookie. -48.5 points for that piss-poor :downspin: job, Casimiro.
:lol
This shit again? :lol - he was Odumb until Phil put his ass on the bench after the Spanish Acquisition. Before that he would give us 22/8/3 one night then 8/7/2 the very next game. This happened quite frequently and is precisely why this dumbass NEVER made one ASG, despite his skill set. Then what happens when he gets traded away from Kobe? It damn near killed him. :lol
Tuff Juice had artificial stats. I look at him like Love in Minny before he went to the Cavs (and then Silver handed him and LeHype Steph's rang). :nope
-15 more points for bragging how they won a playoff round. Then again, that's all the Clipps ever done so you are easily impressed with such a feat. :lol
ambchang
04-14-2017, 12:44 PM
I know English is your 3rd language, but since when is 3 > 5?
I know your brain came optional but Horry got 7. You compare role players to role players.
Brazil
04-14-2017, 01:08 PM
:lol calling My nigg LkrFan Mexican names is one of funniest shit of this forum even tho we all know his name is Jose Luis tbh... I always look forward to it tbh
Clipper Nation
04-14-2017, 02:16 PM
:lol
This shit again? :lol - he was Odumb until Phil put his ass on the bench after the Spanish Acquisition. Before that he would give us 22/8/3 one night then 8/7/2 the very next game. This happened quite frequently and is precisely why this dumbass NEVER made one ASG, despite his skill set. Then what happens when he gets traded away from Kobe? It damn near killed him. :lol
Odom was a beast, tbh. It was just hard for him to put up big numbers when one certain selfish faggot was hogging the ball 24/7. When he was traded away from MVPau, he was old and washed up.
:lol The Spanish Acquisition? Is that what you call the moment you became a "LkrFan" and signed up to this board, Alberto? Or are you referring to the time you hopped the border? :downspin:
Tuff Juice had artificial stats.
:lol A Kobe fan whining about "artificial stats" - that's rich.
-15 more points for bragging how they won a playoff round. Then again, that's all the Clipps ever done so you are easily impressed with such a feat. :lol
One playoff series victory is still more than Kobe could do with the same players, tbh.
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 05:31 PM
I know your brain came optional but Horry got 7. You compare role players to role players.
What HOF is Horry going to? Stop being obtuse, Asian faggot.
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 05:32 PM
:lol calling My nigg LkrFan Mexican names is one of funniest shit of this forum even tho we all know his name is Jose Luis tbh... I always look forward to it tbh
:lmao
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 05:48 PM
Odom was a beast, tbh. It was just hard for him to put up big numbers when one certain selfish faggot was hogging the ball 24/7. When he was traded away from MVPau, he was old and washed up.
Odumb was inconsistentPERIOD. "MVPau" didn't sniff the Finals again after Kobe stopped holding his hand...but if he leads Kiwi to the Finals this year, you got a point. If he doesn't, I'm right. Deal? :toast
:lol The Spanish Acquisition? Is that what you call the moment you became a "LkrFan" and signed up to this board, Alberto? Or are you referring to the time you hopped the border?
Where was "Clipper Nation" before #BASKETBALLREASONS? ;) If I'm this bandwagonning Kobe Fan you insinuate me to be, I should have stopped posting when he retired, no? Last I checked, the Lakers are not contenders, yet here I am :)
:lol A Kobe fan whining about "artificial stats" - that's rich.
Name on the front son - you should know this by now. I route for Kobe because he is a Laker, not the other way around.
One playoff series victory is still more than Kobe could do with the same players, tbh.
They were in the Eastern Conference :lol The Western Conference was loaded for all 20 years Kobe was a Laker. Of course he couldn't drag Kwame's was out of the 1st round. -15 more points son. SMH
ambchang
04-14-2017, 06:19 PM
What HOF is Horry going to? Stop being obtuse, Asian faggot.
What HOF is Kobe in? Colorado justice system?
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 06:22 PM
What HOF is Kobe in? Colorado justice system?
:lol - I'm done with replying to you about Kobe. SMH
Clipper Nation
04-14-2017, 06:29 PM
Odumb was inconsistentPERIOD. "MVPau" didn't sniff the Finals again after Kobe stopped holding his hand...but if he leads Kiwi to the Finals this year, you got a point. If he doesn't, I'm right. Deal? :toast
N:lol deal, Paco. MVPau is still playing at a high level now - leading the league in 3PT%, IIRC. Meanwhile, Kobe was already donning the shitbag 6+ years ago.
Where was "Clipper Nation" before #BASKETBALLREASONS? ;) If I'm this bandwagonning Kobe Fan you insinuate me to be, I should have stopped posting when he retired, no? Last I checked, the Lakers are not contenders, yet here I am :)
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Join Date: 01-01-2010 (Post-Pau)
:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiittttt!!!!
Name on the front son - you should know this by now. I route for Kobe because he is a Laker, not the other way around.
I know English is your second language, but the name on the front of the Lakers' jerseys has never been "KOBE" or "BRYANT." You've been acting like it has for years.
They were in the Eastern Conference :lol The Western Conference was loaded for all 20 years Kobe was a Laker. Of course he couldn't drag Kwame's was out of the 1st round. -15 more points son. SMH
This is the same Western Conference where MVPau was dragging the likes of Stromile Swift, Brian Cardinal and Jake Tsakalidis to the playoffs - not missing them in his prime with MVOdom and MVButler. N:lol excuses, son.
LkrFan
04-14-2017, 07:49 PM
N:lol deal, Paco. MVPau is still playing at a high level now - leading the league in 3PT%, IIRC. Meanwhile, Kobe was already donning the shitbag 6+ years ago.
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:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiittttt!!!!
I know English is your second language, but the name on the front of the Lakers' jerseys has never been "KOBE" or "BRYANT." You've been acting like it has for years.
This is the same Western Conference where MVPau was dragging the likes of Stromile Swift, Brian Cardinal and Jake Tsakalidis to the playoffs - not missing them in his prime with MVOdom and MVButler. N:lol excuses, son.
:rollin :lmao :rollin
ambchang
04-14-2017, 10:02 PM
:lol - I'm done with replying to you about Kobe. SMH
I accept your surrender.
Coherd isnt the coach. If the coach knows the ball has to be in Westbrook's hands the majority of the time and he needs to do all the scoring in order for them to win. You have to believe in what the coach believes.
Does he also need to do all the rebounding in order for them to win? What coach in the history of team sports thought a legit offensive strategy was to ignore the other 4 players on the floor? Kobe was allowed to but Phil used to get onto him for it.
Russ constructed a facade of an incredible season. Here's a reasonable facsimile:
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TDMVPDPOY
04-14-2017, 11:10 PM
hopefully this ends in 4 or to 7 games with beverly doing what he does best..
lebomb
04-17-2017, 07:03 AM
The 4 other players with WB average the WORST PER in the NBA. Last night, WB had a mediocre game and the Thunder got pummeled. Only one other player in double figures, and he isnt even a scorer. Oladipo sucks, Adams is OK, Kanter is OK at best, and Taj Gibson needs to step it up big time. These big ass dudes and noone can box out and rebound. No wonder WB got all the boards.
unleashbaynes
04-17-2017, 07:06 AM
:lmao can't admit that WB makes his teammates worse
Clipper Nation
04-17-2017, 07:13 AM
:lmao can't admit that WB makes his teammates worse
:lmao Can't admit that Alphabrook's teammates are garbage
Brazil
04-17-2017, 08:44 AM
:lmao :cry 80% :cry
:cry no stat padding :cry
:cry black power :cry
lebomb
04-17-2017, 08:51 AM
:lmao :cry 80% :cry
:cry no stat padding :cry
:cry black power :cry
WORST per teammates in the NBA. Let that sink in. His teammates are whack. Oladipo didnt even get double figures. If you watched the game he was horrible. Trash.
Raven
04-17-2017, 09:11 AM
WORST per teammates in the NBA. Let that sink in. His teammates are whack. Oladipo didnt even get double figures. If you watched the game he was horrible. Trash.
oh please.
lebomb
04-17-2017, 09:26 AM
oh please.
Its an indisputable fact. He has the worst rated supporting cast in the NBA.
Raven
04-17-2017, 09:41 AM
Its an indisputable fact. He has the worst rated supporting cast in the NBA.
by what measure?
lebomb
04-17-2017, 09:47 AM
by what measure?
PER
Jalen Rose spoke about it on ESPN. His teammates are gabage.
Raven
04-17-2017, 09:58 AM
PER
Jalen Rose spoke about it on ESPN. His teammates are gabage.
lol, that's regular season talk. PER means nothing. Otherwise Danny Green is a garbage player and Anthony Davis is the second coming of shaq.. Now, i do think oladipo has always been massively overrated, but there's a lot of talent on that team. They are young and hungry, but they are basically holding their dicks waiting for westbrook to do something.. that's just the offense they play.
lebomb
04-17-2017, 10:11 AM
lol, that's regular season talk. PER means nothing. Otherwise Danny Green is a garbage player and Anthony Davis is the second coming of shaq.. Now, i do think oladipo has always been massively overrated, but there's a lot of talent on that team. They are young and hungry, but they are basically holding their dicks waiting for westbrook to do something.. that's just the offense they play.
:lmao Noone on the Thunder had double figures but WB and Andre Roberson who is not known as a scorer. How can anyone win with that besides a superstar that can give you a trip dub every night. :lmao
Brazil
04-17-2017, 11:07 AM
PER
Jalen Rose spoke about it on ESPN. His teammates are gabage.
what a weak sauce argument
to get some PER teammates need a minimum the ball in their hands... with westchimp 42% how they achieve that ? Oladipo is 24, dude has a worst PER than last year and you wonder why? :lol
lebomb
04-17-2017, 11:11 AM
Well, line the teams up man for man and Houstons roster is heads above the Thunders roster. Gordon, and Beverly are better than anyone on the Thunders roster after WB.
djohn2oo8
04-17-2017, 12:41 PM
Well, line the teams up man for man and Houstons roster is heads above the Thunders roster. Gordon, and Beverly are better than anyone on the Thunders roster after WB.
Kanter and Adams are both better and more skilled than the Rockets centers. Oladipo is no scrub. His team is not complete trash you are making it out to be. The team is coached to let Westbrook get ALL of the rebounds and shoot as many times as he wants.
apalisoc_9
04-17-2017, 01:11 PM
Lebomb is like that Black Dude from the office that you think knows a lot aboht basketball just because he's black and then he tells you Kobe is better than Jordan.
Westbrook season is the all-time greateat Stat-padding season of all time. To compare that hat to harden who also stat-pads like crazy but not at the same level as Westbrook...
Harden Contest about 8 shots a game, meanwhile Westbrook is dead last in the league.
Westbrook is part of the Kobe-Iverson persona that the average Black person like Lebomb adores sp much. :lol
Raven
04-17-2017, 01:11 PM
:lmao Noone on the Thunder had double figures but WB and Andre Roberson who is not known as a scorer. How can anyone win with that besides a superstar that can give you a trip dub every night. :lmao
well obviously they cannot, but why do you think that is the case? Clearly they have used they regular season to pad westbrooks stats instead of actually developing their players...
Raven
04-17-2017, 01:14 PM
Lebomb is like that Black Dude from the office that you think knows a lot aboht basketball just because he's black and then he tells you Kobe is better than Jordan.
Westbrook season is the all-time greateat Stat-padding season of all time. To compare that hat to harden who also stat-pads like crazy but not at the same level as Westbrook...
Harden Contest about 8 shots a game, meanwhile Westbrook is dead last in the league.
Westbrook is part of the Kobe-Iverson persona that the average Black person like Lebomb adores sp much. :lol
with the difference that he is actually good in a non gimmicky kind of way and could be good in any type of system.
unleashbaynes
04-17-2017, 01:16 PM
:lmao Can't admit that Alphabrook's teammates are garbage
Yet somehow that roster made the conf finals last year.
Kinda hard for shooters to get into any rhythm when one guys is taking the majority of the shots. Hard for bigs to grab rebounds and get an outlet pass going when the team is retardedly catered towards letting a fucking point guard get every rebound.
PER
Jalen Rose spoke about it on ESPN. His teammates are gabage.
What is the formula for calculating PER?
lebomb
04-17-2017, 02:39 PM
Lebomb is like that Black Dude from the office that you think knows a lot aboht basketball just because he's black and then he tells you Kobe is better than Jordan.
Westbrook season is the all-time greateat Stat-padding season of all time. To compare that hat to harden who also stat-pads like crazy but not at the same level as Westbrook...
Harden Contest about 8 shots a game, meanwhile Westbrook is dead last in the league.
Westbrook is part of the Kobe-Iverson persona that the average Black person like Lebomb adores sp much. :lol
Show you how much you know mufucka. Jordan is way better than Kome.
LMAO.........Hardens matador defense ?? This nigga steps outta the way when confronted. :lmao
apalisoc_9
04-17-2017, 02:57 PM
Obviously harden is not a good defender. The point is that, the number of shots he contest is directly related to his rebound ratio.
The reason why Westbrook gets so much rebounds is because he never contest shots.
So lets say Harden actually does westbrook does, he would have just as much rebound.
Laugh all you want about Harden's defense, but he's been significantly better than Westbrook this year defensively.
Clipper Nation
04-17-2017, 02:57 PM
lol, that's regular season talk.
Okay, then let's look at the whopping one-game playoff sample size. Out of all of Westbrook's teammates, who did anything of note? Roberson, a career 26% shooter from three (24% this season) had a fluke shooting night from beyond the arc. If it wasn't for that, Westbrook would have been the only starter to even crack double-digit points. Roberson also allowed a known playoff choker in Frauden to drop 37 on him. Oladipo completely shat the bed. Nene and Lou Williams (another historic playoff choker) nearly matched OKC's whole bench in scoring by themselves. Gibson, Kanter and Adams could only grab 7 combined rebounds. These are the guys that we're supposed to believe Westbrook is holding back from beasting on the boards. Their bigs also got worked defensively.
Westbrook wasn't fantastic. It's almost as if Beverley is an elite defender who can keep pace with him! But he was still just three assists shy of a triple-double and was still far and away the best player on the court for the Thunder. Last night's beatdown exposed how awful the rest of that roster is and how screwed the Thunder are when Russ isn't playing at a superhuman level.
Clipper Nation
04-17-2017, 03:02 PM
Yet somehow that roster made the conf finals last year.
Really? You can't think of anything that changed with their roster between last year and this year? You know, like the Thunder's second-best player quitting, leaving them in the offseason, and getting replaced with nothing?
Kinda hard for shooters to get into any rhythm when one guys is taking the majority of the shots. Hard for bigs to grab rebounds and get an outlet pass going when the team is retardedly catered towards letting a fucking point guard get every rebound.
It's also kinda hard for players to do any of those things when they suck.
Raven
04-17-2017, 03:28 PM
Okay, then let's look at the whopping one-game playoff sample size. Out of all of Westbrook's teammates, who did anything of note? Roberson, a career 26% shooter from three (24% this season) had a fluke shooting night from beyond the arc. If it wasn't for that, Westbrook would have been the only starter to even crack double-digit points. Roberson also allowed a known playoff choker in Frauden to drop 37 on him. Oladipo completely shat the bed. Nene and Lou Williams (another historic playoff choker) nearly matched OKC's whole bench in scoring by themselves. Gibson, Kanter and Adams could only grab 7 combined rebounds. These are the guys that we're supposed to believe Westbrook is holding back from beasting on the boards. Their bigs also got worked defensively.
Westbrook wasn't fantastic. It's almost as if Beverley is an elite defender who can keep pace with him! But he was still just three assists shy of a triple-double and was still far and away the best player on the court for the Thunder. Last night's beatdown exposed how awful the rest of that roster is and how screwed the Thunder are when Russ isn't playing at a superhuman level.
i'd say that's the consequence of the system, not of the talent level. I mean Kanter is a 20+10 guy in his sleep, Oladipo used to put up some numbers and so on.. i mean i don't see any talentless guy on that roster, but if you don't use/develop them during the year, you're bound to be bitten in the ass at some point..
unleashbaynes
04-17-2017, 03:31 PM
It's just such a shame that a guy like Steven Adams is wasting away his career in a situation where he can't develop as a player. Would love to have him on the Spurs.
lebomb
04-17-2017, 03:47 PM
Last night's beatdown exposed how awful the rest of that roster is and how screwed the Thunder are when Russ isn't playing at a superhuman level.
Last night is exactly what Ive been saying all season. Without WB getting huge numbers and triple doubles, the Thunder suck major ass.
lebomb
04-17-2017, 03:48 PM
i'd say that's the consequence of the system, not of the talent level. I mean Kanter is a 20+10 guy in his sleep, Oladipo used to put up some numbers and so on.. i mean i don't see any talentless guy on that roster, but if you don't use/develop them during the year, you're bound to be bitten in the ass at some point..
yeah, in your dreams :lmao
Okay, then let's look at the whopping one-game playoff sample size. Out of all of Westbrook's teammates, who did anything of note? Roberson, a career 26% shooter from three (24% this season) had a fluke shooting night from beyond the arc. If it wasn't for that, Westbrook would have been the only starter to even crack double-digit points. Roberson also allowed a known playoff choker in Frauden to drop 37 on him. Oladipo completely shat the bed. Nene and Lou Williams (another historic playoff choker) nearly matched OKC's whole bench in scoring by themselves. Gibson, Kanter and Adams could only grab 7 combined rebounds. These are the guys that we're supposed to believe Westbrook is holding back from beasting on the boards. Their bigs also got worked defensively.
Westbrook wasn't fantastic. It's almost as if Beverley is an elite defender who can keep pace with him! But he was still just three assists shy of a triple-double and was still far and away the best player on the court for the Thunder. Last night's beatdown exposed how awful the rest of that roster is and how screwed the Thunder are when Russ isn't playing at a superhuman level.
lol Westbrook should have been guarding Harden. You are just shitting all over your own case.
If the team would just focus on getting Russ a triple double, they're like 95% certain to win. Right?
Westbrook was one turnover shy of a triple double.
I must really suck when all your chickens come home to roost.
Raven
04-17-2017, 03:52 PM
yeah, in your dreams :lmao
erm... i don't think it's arguable tbh... does that make him good? no, but still...
Last night is exactly what Ive been saying all season. Without WB getting huge numbers and triple doubles, the Thunder suck major ass.
If the Thunder win you say "see, I told you Westbrook is a fucking beast".
You're set either way. Win = Westbrook great, Lose = team sucks
lebomb
04-17-2017, 04:08 PM
lol Westbrook should have been guarding Harden. You are just shitting all over your own case.
If the team would just focus on getting Russ a triple double, they're like 95% certain to win. Right?
Westbrook was one turnover shy of a triple double.
I must really suck when all your chickens come home to roost.
Westbrook had an awful game. He will be alright though. He is due to go off with huge game, triple double and the Thunder will win.
Clipper Nation
04-17-2017, 04:24 PM
lol Westbrook should have been guarding Harden. You are just shitting all over your own case.
If the team would just focus on getting Russ a triple double, they're like 95% certain to win. Right?
Westbrook was one turnover shy of a triple double.
I must really suck when all your chickens come home to roost.
Roberson was supposed to be the "Harden Stopper." When Frauden shot a few bricks in the first half, all you haters were crowing about how stacked Westbrook's team truly is and how he's been holding them back. Now it's "Westbrook should have been guarding Frauden." The haters are truly shameless :lol
:cheer:cheer:cheer:monkey
Roberson was supposed to be the "Harden Stopper." When Frauden shot a few bricks in the first half, all you haters were crowing about how stacked Westbrook's team truly is and how he's been holding them back. Now it's "Westbrook should have been guarding Frauden." The haters are truly shameless :lol
So Russ gets all the glory but Roberson has all the responsibility? :lol
I suppose the player with the fewest contests on 3's in the league shouldn't be guarding a 3pt shooter. Hell, he might give up a rebound!
dfens
04-18-2017, 03:54 AM
harden, westbrook, cucky ... the low iq no defense trifecta of this pussy league :lol
Chris
04-18-2017, 04:08 AM
harden, westbrook, cucky ... the low iq no defense trifecta of this pussy league :lol
The Kobe Effect
dfens
04-18-2017, 04:15 AM
The Kobe Effect
son I'm far from a kobe fan but he was a GREAT defender in his prime with exceptional scoring variety and heart. Sure he was a greedy egomaniac but he was far better than today's stars. 3rd best player in the last 15 years after lebron and duncan.
Clipper Nation
04-18-2017, 06:19 AM
son I'm far from a kobe fan but he was a GREAT defender in his prime with exceptional scoring variety and heart. Sure he was a greedy egomaniac but he was far better than today's stars. 3rd best player in the last 15 years after lebron and duncan.
:lmao
dfens
04-18-2017, 06:54 AM
:lmao
? tbh
lebomb
04-19-2017, 08:01 PM
Like I said WB would be on point tonight. Layin the wood to Houston so far.:claw
LkrFan
04-19-2017, 11:00 PM
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:lmao
Like I said WB would be on point tonight. Layin the wood to Houston so far.:claw
18 shots in the 4th. 51 points in 43 shots, 15 points from the free throw line.
Loses because he chucked his team out of the game in the 4th.
Russ "Leeeeeroy Jaaaankinssss" Westbrook
unleashbaynes
04-20-2017, 02:05 AM
He lost the game with his hero ball bullshit in the 4th.
:cry but but.....muh stats!! :cry
Brazil
04-20-2017, 04:46 AM
:lol
Clipper Nation
04-20-2017, 07:07 AM
He lost the game with his hero ball bullshit in the 4th.
:cry but but.....muh stats!! :cry
:lol No. They lost because he went to the bench towards the end of the third quarter and his "stacked" supporting cast couldn't hold a 12-point lead. At that point, Houston had all the momentum and it was all over.
But by all means, keep convincing yourself that Oladipo and Roberson could have bricked them to victory in the 4th if only they chucked more shots :lol
lebomb
04-20-2017, 07:19 AM
Harden shot like shit as well.... the difference is his teammates can hit a shot. Oladipo sucked again and noone could hit. WB cant rely on anyone on this team. Maybe Mcderm?? And Roberson. Thats says alot when thats all you have.
djohn2oo8
04-20-2017, 07:32 AM
Harden shot like shit as well.... the difference is his teammates can hit a shot. Oladipo sucked again and noone could hit. WB cant rely on anyone on this team. Maybe Mcderm?? And Roberson. Thats says alot when thats all you have.
The difference is Harden doesn't take 40 shots a game. Every time Westbrook gets his 10th assist he stops passing right after that.
djohn2oo8
04-20-2017, 07:33 AM
:lol No. They lost because he went to the bench towards the end of the third quarter and his "stacked" supporting cast couldn't hold a 12-point lead. At that point, Houston had all the momentum and it was all over.
But by all means, keep convincing yourself that Oladipo and Roberson could have bricked them to victory in the 4th if only they chucked more shots :lol
3 for 17 in the 4th quarter. lol But keep blaming his teammates.
djohn2oo8
04-20-2017, 07:37 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhB3yKUkpvw
:cry
djohn2oo8
04-20-2017, 07:39 AM
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lefty
04-20-2017, 08:04 AM
:lol Clipper Nation
:lol beisbol fan takes
:lol stats
:lol ERA RBI
Brazil
04-20-2017, 08:26 AM
:lmao worst chucker ever
4/17 in one quarter ?? are u kiddin me ? :cry but but its all teammates fault :cry
:lmao 50% usage... not even Jordan reached dat kind of shit
hilarious
Westchimp is a plague for the NBA and its future... what a role model... winning ? who cares I got my triple double
:lol No. They lost because he went to the bench towards the end of the third quarter and his "stacked" supporting cast couldn't hold a 12-point lead. At that point, Houston had all the momentum and it was all over.
But by all means, keep convincing yourself that Oladipo and Roberson could have bricked them to victory in the 4th if only they chucked more shots :lol
So the guy who defends fewer 3pt shots than anyone in the league could have prevented the Beverly's three's and the Rockets from catching up? Or are you saying his scoring output would have weathered the storm (being 4 for 18 in the 4th makes that unlikely)?
:lmao worst chucker ever
4/17 in one quarter ?? are u kiddin me ? :cry but but its all teammates fault :cry
:lmao 50% usage... not even Jordan reached dat kind of shit
hilarious
Westchimp is a plague for the NBA and its future... what a role model... winning ? who cares I got my triple double
4/18
And he says "I trust my teammates" and "my job is to make my teammates better". :lol
Splits
04-20-2017, 08:42 AM
I bet Kirby was so jealous watching that shitshow.
lebomb
04-20-2017, 08:46 AM
Harden shot 41% and WB shot 39%.........gotdayum that is a huge difference in efficiency. The difference in this game was teammates. Beverly, Gordon shit on the entire Thunder lineup besides WB. Oladipo is trash!!!! He missed 3-4 open 3ptrs in the 4th. WB had to chuck away, noone could make an open shot. Its all good, this series will be 2-2 by the end of the weekend.
unleashbaynes
04-20-2017, 09:12 AM
Those teammates didn't look so bad in the first 3 quarters when they were getting involved. Then the black hole opened up.
Where is all the bitching about how many free throws harden and Westbrook shot?
djohn2oo8
04-20-2017, 09:43 AM
Harden shot 41% and WB shot 39%.........gotdayum that is a huge difference in efficiency. The difference in this game was teammates. Beverly, Gordon shit on the entire Thunder lineup besides WB. Oladipo is trash!!!! He missed 3-4 open 3ptrs in the 4th. WB had to chuck away, noone could make an open shot. Its all good, this series will be 2-2 by the end of the weekend.
Harden took 17 shots all game. Westbrook took 17 shots in one quarter.
lebomb
04-20-2017, 10:14 AM
Harden took 17 shots all game. Westbrook took 17 shots in one quarter.
The hate is awesome today. :lmao
It will be 2-2 come Monday.
Like I said WB would be on point tonight. Layin the wood to Houston so far.:claw
Westbrook had an awful game. He will be alright though. He is due to go off with huge game, triple double and the Thunder will win.
Last night is exactly what Ive been saying all season. Without WB getting huge numbers and triple doubles, the Thunder suck major ass.
The hate is awesome today. :lmao
It will be 2-2 come Monday.
You're doing so well. :lol
lebomb
04-20-2017, 11:47 AM
You're doing so well. :lol
Hey, I admit he had a bad 4th quarter. At least I admit things. Yall never admit being wrong. And yall are wrong quite often.
Mikeanaro
04-20-2017, 12:14 PM
TRIPLE DOUBLEEEEEE!!!
hater
04-20-2017, 12:19 PM
This guy is basically kobe bryant. Cant do shit without anothe HOf bigman but has monster #s
lebomb
04-20-2017, 12:48 PM
This guy is basically kobe bryant. Cant do shit without anothe HOf bigman but has monster #s
So you are saying he isnt like anyone starting for the Warriors? They were already arguably the best, now we add Durant. :rolleyes
Brazil
04-20-2017, 02:23 PM
So you are saying he isnt like anyone starting for the Warriors? They were already arguably the best, now we add Durant. :rolleyes
take the loss and move on brah
Splits
04-20-2017, 02:33 PM
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lol that defense with 2 minutes to go in the 4th. Doesn't even make a run at Bev
Brazil
04-20-2017, 02:43 PM
oh and just for the fun... Westchimp became the second player to attempt 17 FGAs in one quarter during a PO game, he ties Rick Barry record of 1967 !! :lmao crofl
Mikeanaro
04-20-2017, 02:44 PM
Lol and there are not many articles on the web about him scoring a triple double but LOSING DA GAME, it seems media is protecting him.
Brazil
04-20-2017, 02:55 PM
:lol :cry but but 80% win when he reaches trip double :cry
lefty20
04-20-2017, 03:56 PM
:lol No. They lost because he went to the bench towards the end of the third quarter and his "stacked" supporting cast couldn't hold a 12-point lead. At that point, Houston had all the momentum and it was all over.
But by all means, keep convincing yourself that Oladipo and Roberson could have bricked them to victory in the 4th if only they chucked more shots :lol
Tbf, he did chose to shoot contested air balls over passing to an open McBuckets, more than once. Chimpy went full on Kirby mode and started seeing teammates as opponents.
OKC's real problem is their coaching. This is Billy D's game plan. "Russ take the ball and do something with it. Rest of you faggots need to box out for him on D and stay out of his way on O. K thnx". So yeah, I'm not surprised OKC gets murdered when Russ sits.
Arcadian
04-20-2017, 04:03 PM
"IDGAF about the line, we lost."
Good answer, tbh
ambchang
04-20-2017, 04:20 PM
Funny thing is that neither Westbrook nor harden deserves the MVP. Kawhi does.
"IDGAF about the line, we lost."
Good answer, tbh
Although a lie, he couldn't take his eyes off of it. He obviously gives a shit about his stats. If he wanted to make his teammates better, he'd get them involved in the game of basketball, unless he means off the court, with their personal lives.
Lol and there are not many articles on the web about him scoring a triple double but LOSING DA GAME, it seems media is protecting him.
Fox sports reported on it. Pretty vicious actually.
Hey, I admit he had a bad 4th quarter. At least I admit things. Yall never admit being wrong. And yall are wrong quite often.
We can't both be wrong. Russ is a team cancer. This we all know. You just have that "angry black man = x-men" thing going. It fails you every time. You wouldn't know real basketball if it crawled up your cornhole and laid eggs.
Clipper Nation
04-20-2017, 04:31 PM
The difference is Harden doesn't take 40 shots a game. Every time Westbrook gets his 10th assist he stops passing right after that.
Frauden doesn't need to shoot 40 times a game because he's on a stacked team and the ref$ score most of his points for him.
lebomb
04-20-2017, 04:47 PM
We can't both be wrong. Russ is a team cancer. This we all know. You just have that "angry black man = x-men" thing going. It fails you every time. You wouldn't know real basketball if it crawled up your cornhole and laid eggs.
Clown ass nigga talkin shit again. Lets see how the next 2 games play out homie.
Clown ass nigga talkin shit again. Lets see how the next 2 games play out homie.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKS0OxsooHm8Wm4/giphy.gif
Frauden doesn't need to shoot 40 times a game because he's on a stacked team and the ref$ score most of his points for him.
Stacked.. lol
Two guys who couldn't make the playoffs (Gordon and Anderson), Clint Capella, Patrick Beverly and Trevor Ariza = stacked..
New standards this post season. Who knew?
Mikeanaro
04-20-2017, 05:54 PM
Fox sports reported on it. Pretty vicious actually.
Good for them, winning is irrelevant for the casual fan and Meth homers just the stupid numbers that makes null everyone around him matter.
Brazil
04-20-2017, 08:29 PM
Lebomb is blinded by his racial stuff... not sure why he is somehow rooting for Spurs... obviously not enough black genes in Spurs players tbh
lebomb
04-21-2017, 07:27 AM
[URL="http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/article/Thunder-needs-Victor-Oladipo-to-break-out-of-slump-11087817.php"]
This
djohn2oo8
04-21-2017, 07:44 AM
Frauden doesn't need to shoot 40 times a game because he's on a stacked team and the ref$ score most of his points for him.
Lol stacked team. Harden still wasn't shooting 40 times a game when he was carrying the corpses of Terry, Pablo Prigioni, Brewer, Smith, and Joey Dorsey to the 2 seed.
dfens
04-21-2017, 07:56 AM
Lol stacked team. Harden still wasn't shooting 40 times a game when he was carrying the corpses of Terry, Pablo Prigioni, Brewer, Smith, and Joey Dorsey to the 2 seed.
son harden's game is heavily dependent on drawing questionable fouls, he had what 36 points on 7 field goals? :lmao Seriously I've seen this nigga missing open layups because he was contorting to somehow sell a foul :lmao or just waiting after a screen to rip through the incoming defender, because that somehow makes more sense instead of running the offense from there :lmao Even in povertyball you score first and then you beg :lmao
I can tell you one thing, never in my 25+ years of watching basketball have I see a more manufactured "star", they would've been wiping the floor with this nigga 20 years ago tbh. I can't even take this league seriously any more tbh. Even in peaceful europe if you play basketball like that you're getting punched :lol
lebomb
04-21-2017, 09:13 AM
son harden's game is heavily dependent on drawing questionable fouls, he had what 36 points on 7 field goals? :lmao Seriously I've seen this nigga missing open layups because he was contorting to somehow sell a foul :lmao or just waiting after a screen to rip through the incoming defender, because that somehow makes more sense instead of running the offense from there :lmao Even in povertyball you score first and then you beg :lmao
I can tell you one thing, never in my 25+ years of watching basketball have I see a more manufactured "star", they would've been wiping the floor with this nigga 20 years ago tbh. I can't even take this league seriously any more tbh. Even in peaceful europe if you play basketball like that you're getting punched :lol
Harden shot horrible in that game, his FT's made it look like he went Alpha. 7 shots to get 36 points.......... :lol
djohn2oo8
04-21-2017, 09:35 AM
Harden shot horrible in that game, his FT's made it look like he went Alpha. 7 shots to get 36 points.......... :lol
You surely don't want to talk about 51 points on 43 shots. Thats beyond Kobe level. It's also funny that the average time for Westbrook to get an assist doubles after he gets his 10th assist in which it takes him nearly 8 minutes to get another one.
lebomb
04-21-2017, 10:14 AM
You surely don't want to talk about 51 points on 43 shots. Thats beyond Kobe level. It's also funny that the average time for Westbrook to get an assist doubles after he gets his 10th assist in which it takes him nearly 8 minutes to get another one.
The 2nd best player on that team.......supposedly........Oladipo is bricking wide open shots. Its on ESPN and all the sports sites. He has to pick it up, no excuses. WB wouldnt feel like he has to shoot 80 times if dude would make an open shot.
The 2nd best player on that team.......supposedly........Oladipo is bricking wide open shots. Its on ESPN and all the sports sites. He has to pick it up, no excuses. WB wouldnt feel like he has to shoot 80 times if dude would make an open shot.
Not true. He did the same with KD. He also did the same during the AS game and I guess his teammates were shit then too, right?
Your takes are like those of a 14 year old kid. You play too many video games where you equate high stats with skill level. You think Russell is a 99 skill level so that's why he gets high stats, and that his team is basically 65 skill level or lower so you just make Russ the PG and shoot every time down the floor, but you need assists so you pass to someone under the rim or at the last second to force the shot. Then you need rebounds so you set the others to box out and you never defend your man, you just run to the middle for rebounds. At the end of your fake season you have an MVP, scoring title, all NBA awards and DPOY because you also go for every steal instead of defending.
It's amazing you're even a Spurs fan, since you think basketball is an individual sport.
son harden's game is heavily dependent on drawing questionable fouls, he had what 36 points on 7 field goals? :lmao Seriously I've seen this nigga missing open layups because he was contorting to somehow sell a foul :lmao or just waiting after a screen to rip through the incoming defender, because that somehow makes more sense instead of running the offense from there :lmao Even in povertyball you score first and then you beg :lmao
I can tell you one thing, never in my 25+ years of watching basketball have I see a more manufactured "star", they would've been wiping the floor with this nigga 20 years ago tbh. I can't even take this league seriously any more tbh. Even in peaceful europe if you play basketball like that you're getting punched :lol
Harden turned the ball over like 4 times against the Thunder last game at the beginning of the game because he was trying to sell shooting fouls near half court. It was pathetic. He did the same in the paint, didn't even try to shoot just held his arms up after he lost the ball in a fake shooting motion. He zombie walks through the game doing this shit, probably because he's bored to all fuck doing it so often.
lebomb
04-21-2017, 12:29 PM
Not true. He did the same with KD. He also did the same during the AS game and I guess his teammates were shit then too, right?
Your takes are like those of a 14 year old kid. You play too many video games where you equate high stats with skill level. You think Russell is a 99 skill level so that's why he gets high stats, and that his team is basically 65 skill level or lower so you just make Russ the PG and shoot every time down the floor, but you need assists so you pass to someone under the rim or at the last second to force the shot. Then you need rebounds so you set the others to box out and you never defend your man, you just run to the middle for rebounds. At the end of your fake season you have an MVP, scoring title, all NBA awards and DPOY because you also go for every steal instead of defending.
It's amazing you're even a Spurs fan, since you think basketball is an individual sport.
Bullshit..........KD nutted up in the games that the Warriors came back and won in the playoffs last year. Go look at his stat sheet for that series. He went Durbetta big time. I know this is a team sport, but your help has to actually help. Oladipo is ghost in the playoffs. WB has passed the ball to him on WIDE OPEN shots and he bricked it. Further more, how come the Kang can have a trip dub and win and you are cool with that, yet WB can have a trip dub and win and he is a stat padder?
Mikeanaro
04-21-2017, 12:37 PM
NBA.com
Will Westbrook finally get help in Game 3? (http://global.nba.com/news/will-westbrook-finally-get-help-game-3/)From who? refs? lol using team mates as a scapegoat.
Bullshit..........KD nutted up in the games that the Warriors came back and won in the playoffs last year. Go look at his stat sheet for that series. He went Durbetta big time. I know this is a team sport, but your help has to actually help. Oladipo is ghost in the playoffs. WB has passed the ball to him on WIDE OPEN shots and he bricked it. Further more, how come the Kang can have a trip dub and win and you are cool with that, yet WB can have a trip dub and win and he is a stat padder?
You mean that game they lost where Russ shot 33% and still took more FGA than Durant who shot almost 53%? That one? Where he went 7 for 21 and Durant was 10 for 19? The one where only Roberson and Waiters had a worse performance?
http://i.imgur.com/rxkvAU4.jpg
Just look at Russell's Finals performance, his FGA vs Durant and Harden, and his 3pt% vs attempts compared to Durant and Harden. I guess you think Russ was a beast.
http://i.imgur.com/GKQoNHm.jpg
:cry but he had no help :cry
unleashbaynes
04-21-2017, 01:10 PM
Look at LeBron's game last night lebomb. 41, 13 rebs, 12 assists. He shot 51% from the floor and 50% from 3. He let the game happen naturally. And he did a lot of it with Kyrie and K-Love riding pine. That's a real triple double.
lebomb
04-21-2017, 01:40 PM
You mean that game they lost where Russ shot 33% and still took more FGA than Durant who shot almost 53%? That one? Where he went 7 for 21 and Durant was 10 for 19? The one where only Roberson and Waiters had a worse performance?
Lets see how this series plays out. If WB does WB of past, I will admit he is a stat padding chucker. If he brings it back 2-2 and has great games? :claw
lebomb
04-21-2017, 02:13 PM
FYI..........Durant took 10 shots in the 4th qtr of game 7 and WB only 3. So, who was chuckin away? Also, here are Durants stats for the games they lost 10-30, 12-31, 10-31 from the field!!!!! LMAO!!! He also shot 8-24 from the field in the 3rd game in which they actually won.
Durbetta!!!!!!
Kyle Orton
04-21-2017, 03:23 PM
Just look at Russell's Finals performance, his FGA vs Durant and Harden, and his 3pt% vs attempts compared to Durant and Harden. I guess you think Russ was a beast.
http://i.imgur.com/GKQoNHm.jpg
:cry but he had no help :cry
And even then, take away his monster game 4, and he might've had the worst finals a star player has had. lmao 4-20 in the close out game
lebomb
04-21-2017, 03:39 PM
Oklahoma City Thunder Basic Stats
Totals Shooting Per Game
Rk Player Age G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA RB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%MP PTS TRB AST STL BLK
1 Kevin Durant 27 7 7 289 71 168 12 42 56 61 6 50 56 20 12 12 25 17 210 .423 .286 .918 41.3 30.0 8.0 2.9 1.7 1.7
2 Russell Westb 27 7 7 274 62 157 13 41 50 61 14 35 49 79 26 0 31 17 187 .395 .317 .820 39.1 26.7 7.0 11.3 3.7 0.0
DMC posting stats through 5 games.........look at the whole series against Golden State nigga. Durbetta was as or more mediocre than WB, yet yall are putting the blame on him. :lmao
Lets see how this series plays out. If WB does WB of past, I will admit he is a stat padding chucker. If he brings it back 2-2 and has great games? :claw
What do you consider to be "great games"?
If WB involved his teammates, if they shared the assists, if he gets about 5 rebounds, attacks the rim just to free up his 3pt shooters, and only shoots the 3 to spread the defense (he's a horrible 3pt shooter), then I'll say "goddamn what happened to Russ" but he'll continue to play "me" ball and you will ignore the contributions of his team if they win, and you'll blame them if they lose and the sun also rises.
Westbrook has no feel for the game. Harden does. You go under the screen he's taking the three, go over he's attacking the basket, big steps up he's throwing the lob to Capella, perimeter guys collapse he's kicking it out to his shooters. He's almost always in control on top of being super talented.
Chuckbrook OTOH has no idea what he's doing, just plays like a wild animal. His decline will be epic once he loses his superhuman athleticism.
Oklahoma City Thunder Basic Stats
Totals Shooting Per Game
Rk Player Age G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA RB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT%MP PTS TRB AST STL BLK
1 Kevin Durant 27 7 7 289 71 168 12 42 56 61 6 50 56 20 12 12 25 17 210 .423 .286 .918 41.3 30.0 8.0 2.9 1.7 1.7
2 Russell Westb 27 7 7 274 62 157 13 41 50 61 14 35 49 79 26 0 31 17 187 .395 .317 .820 39.1 26.7 7.0 11.3 3.7 0.0
DMC posting stats through 5 games.........look at the whole series against Golden State nigga. Durbetta was as or more mediocre than WB, yet yall are putting the blame on him. :lmao
A fucking PG taking as many shots as the 2nd best shooter in the NBA (at the time) who's on his team! Shooting the same 3pt percentage (actually lower) as Dion Waiters :lol
Taking twice as many though because :cry muh help :cry
http://i.imgur.com/NlV5og0.jpg
lebomb
04-21-2017, 09:04 PM
Durants numbers were horrible in that series period.
Durants numbers were horrible in that series period.
He averaged 30/8 a game. lol
Spurtacular
04-21-2017, 10:48 PM
4-18 in 4th of Game 2; and the Thunder lose the pivotal game.
So Russ for the most part tonight played within the flow of the offense and that's good. I don't think I've ever seen someone less interested in winning the game than Harden though. Is he on some kind of depressant? Fucker walks the ball up, down 5 with the clock winding down. He heaves a half court shot with 7 seconds on the shot clock. He turns the ball over on a 24 second violation because he camps on the fucking ball down like 5 points.
Who does that shit?
But props to Russ. I hope he continues to play within himself but he won't. Adams bailed him out with the putback ala Pau Gasol/Kobe after Russ stopped trusting his teammates in the crunchtime minutes and turned into Leroy Jenkins. He got away with this one. Someone needs to wake Harden up. I thought Mike liked an up tempo offense.
Mikeanaro
04-21-2017, 11:34 PM
Saved by Adams, everything else is utter shit.
lebomb
04-22-2017, 07:58 AM
WB got his teammates the ball last night. Yes his FTs sucked at the end, and he admitted that in his interview.
WB got his teammates the ball last night. Yes his FTs sucked at the end, and he admitted that in his interview.
So you are admitting he needs to get the ball to his teammates?
lebomb
04-22-2017, 10:47 AM
So you are admitting he needs to get the ball to his teammates?
Yes, when the are making shots. If they are throwin up bricks. Hell naw.
Yes, when the are making shots. If they are throwin up bricks. Hell naw.
So he should give his team a chance early on then go it alone if they struggle? :lol video game BB IQ.
lebomb
04-22-2017, 12:01 PM
Pretty much. :claw
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