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Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 09:19 PM
Scraping by teams lately or losing altogether, and nobody reliable outside of Kawhi. Can't get past the second round if this version of LMA is your second best player on paper.

Leetonidas
03-15-2017, 09:22 PM
:cry

MI21
03-15-2017, 09:29 PM
:lol

One of those win-win threads for such a poster. They go all the way you are happy. They lose, you feel like you are smart and intelligent. Never really understand this.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 09:34 PM
Just telling it like it is, can't guard opposing guards in a conference full of them for crap.

DieHardSpursFan1537
03-15-2017, 09:34 PM
Stop being such a faggot OP. It's one game

cjw
03-15-2017, 09:35 PM
Lamarcus just came back from a health scare and the team is missing 2/3 of their point guard rotation. Bunch of bunnies missed. Portland playing for its playoff lives. Spurs played better tonight than the Warriors did last night, but opposite results.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 09:35 PM
This has been the trend all season, this team has some serious flaws. Kawhi has been bailing us out, but outside of him you can't count on anyone to consistently show up. Kawhi and a bunch of spare parts isn't going to cut it.

urunobili
03-15-2017, 09:38 PM
Maybe. To me it'll go either way, or they win big or they lose big and early...

Mnky
03-15-2017, 09:38 PM
They missed about 10 layups. About 10 unforced to. They be alright.

ElNono
03-15-2017, 09:39 PM
Is this the knee-jerk reaction thread of the night, tbh?

Chews
03-15-2017, 09:41 PM
Is this the knee-jerk reaction thread of the night, tbh?

This and the game thread.

We are supposed to go 82-0 or we're a first round exit/pretender.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 09:42 PM
Is this the knee-jerk reaction thread of the night, tbh?

This team is a 2nd round exit, shocked at how many Spurs fans think they can beat the Rockets in 5 (not you, but others).

mexicanjunior
03-15-2017, 09:43 PM
Scraping by teams lately or losing altogether, and nobody reliable outside of Kawhi. Can't get past the second round if this version of LMA is your second best player on paper.

Houston will sweep us if we are lucky enough to get past the first round. Needed that 1 seed to have any chance of doing anything this playoffs...They shit it away tonight.

timtonymanu
03-15-2017, 09:43 PM
Meh, lost to a desperate regular season try hard team that needs the 8th seed. If anything I'm not sold on Aldridge even more than ever. He just reeks too much of small time player and now he's past his prime.

daslicer
03-15-2017, 09:43 PM
Just telling it like it is, can't guard opposing guards in a conference full of them for crap.

Your are telling it from your typical suicide perspective. It's been the same story for you the last several years. Whenever the spurs lose "They are garbage". When they win you jump back on the bandwagon. Just have to say your coping mechanism with losing is retarded. Go get some Prozac.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 09:44 PM
Houston will sweep us if we are lucky enough to get past the first round. Needed that 1 seed to have any chance of doing anything this playoffs...They shit it away tonight.

:lol All jokes aside, the Spurs are completely dead in the backcourt, and Danny only showing up on one side of the ball is going to kill us. LMA is trash and Gasol and Lee are the only bright spots during this stretch.

Budkin
03-15-2017, 09:45 PM
This team is a 2nd round exit, shocked at how many Spurs fans think they can beat the Rockets in 5 (not you, but others).

We'll beat the Rockets but not the Clippers or Cavs.

TD 21
03-15-2017, 09:45 PM
Most people haven't been fooled by them all season, so exposed isn't the right word. But yeah, they're not get good as their record or point differential and I have no confidence in them being an elite team (Warriors, Cavaliers, Rockets and I'm still including Cavaliers) and aren't even overly confident in them beating the Thunder or Grizzlies.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 09:45 PM
Your are telling it from your typical suicide perspective. It's been the same story for you the last several years. Whenever the spurs lose "They are garbage". When they win you jump back on the bandwagon. Just have to say your coping mechanism with losing is retarded. Go get some Prozac.

This season is different, while I think the gap was always bigger between the Warriors/Spurs last year than people realized, this year's team is probably the second worst of the decade for the Spurs after 2011.

Spurs don't need to be crucified because of that, but it is very difficult to have faith in a team that scrapes by and relies on one player to carry the load all the time. Spurs have absolutely no margin for error.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 09:46 PM
Most people haven't been fooled by them all season, so exposed isn't the right term. But yeah, they're not get good as their record or point differential and I have no confidence in them being an elite team (Warriors, Cavaliers, Rockets and I'm still including Cavaliers) and aren't even overly confident in them beating the Thunder or Grizzlies.

I think they'll beat Memphis, and OKC could go 6 games. But this team just can't step on an opposing team's throat and put the game away. I also think they are a layup drill far too often.

Let's see what happens, but I agree with you.

FkLA
03-15-2017, 09:47 PM
:lol

Capt Bringdown
03-15-2017, 09:48 PM
Insofar that they rely on LMA, there's the exposure.
But what other choice do they have? The Spurs are counting on LMA being a reliable contributor, and he doesn't have the stuff.
I think it's pretty obvious that the team doesn't believe he can get it done, but hey, keep pounding the rock.

DarrinS
03-15-2017, 09:49 PM
One game after LMA's heart scare -- definitely blow up the team.

Leetonidas
03-15-2017, 09:49 PM
It's funny how spurs have a great record vs the top teams but the losses to inferior competition (something spurs have always done) elicits all the :cry second round fodder :cry talk tbh

spursgu
03-15-2017, 09:50 PM
zzzzzzzz

BillMc
03-15-2017, 09:52 PM
Can't get past the second round if this version of LMA is your second best player on paper.


While LMA shot a lousy percentage tonight, his season FG$% is better than it was his last 2 years in Portland, when he was ALL NBA. He's just getting less shots now and less minutes now. No real difference in his game, other than improved defense, its all just perception. Not what people want to hear on a night like tonight but it is true.

It's kind of like pointing out what an absolutely military genius Napoleon was after Waterloo.:lol Not the best timing.

spursgu
03-15-2017, 09:53 PM
It's funny how spurs have a great record vs the top teams but the losses to inferior competition (something spurs have always done) elicits all the :cry second round fodder :cry talk tbh

Yeah and somehow the other teams in the West are contenders but the Spurs aren't. Gtfoh. TD21, amused, Darius Bieber etc. this thread is for those cliff jumping specialists.

Horse
03-15-2017, 09:58 PM
Bunch of faggots. Lillard and McCollum threw trash up all night. It just happened to go in.

ElNono
03-15-2017, 10:03 PM
If you think this team can't beat the Cavs, Dubs or even Clippers or Rockets, that's certainly fair. However, this particular game tonight has nothing to do with that.

We're going to lose some games here or there, tbh... especially on nights when we don't shot particularly well or defend well... it's a long season...

emanueldavidginobili
03-15-2017, 10:04 PM
Yeah this team is one of the worst teams we had probably since 2011. Basically the team is riding Kawhi coatails. We are lacking a young player that can create his own shot. The fact that we are still relying on the second oldest player in the NBA for playmaking is a complete joke. We have a bunch of players past their prime, Green, LA, Parker, Ginobili, Gasol, Lee, Mills isn't going to get any better than he is either. Those are 6 of our main 8 players. Simmon isn't going to turn the corner. We need young players with upside there's no way in hell we are beating CLE, GS, HOU, or maybe some other teams. I'm usually optimistic, but this is reality.

daslicer
03-15-2017, 10:04 PM
This season is different, while I think the gap was always bigger between the Warriors/Spurs last year than people realized, this year's team is probably the second worst of the decade for the Spurs after 2011.

Spurs don't need to be crucified because of that, but it is very difficult to have faith in a team that scrapes by and relies on one player to carry the load all the time. Spurs have absolutely no margin for error.

Another suicide rant by you. What does the gap between the Spurs and Warriors have to do with the spur sucking? I just don't understand what you are trying to get at here. The warriors will definitely be tough to beat in a 7 game series but it's doable. The Spurs will have to play at a high level to pull it off much like they did in '14 against the Thunder and the Heat. I just don't understand what you are trying to get at here. Also saying this team is the second worst Spurs team of the decade is asinine. This team is clearly better than 2015 and 2016 team. Lee, Dedmon, Gasol, Bertans are upgrades over West,Diaw, and last year's Duncan.

The perimeter is definitely a weakness of the Spurs that the Warriors will have an edge against the Spurs but we'll see how it plays out. The Warriors are the favorites against the Spurs in a 7 game series but I do believe the Spurs have a chance in hell. I'm not willing to declare the season is over like a retard which you do every time the Spurs lose.

dabom
03-15-2017, 10:04 PM
OPs been waiting on this thread for a while now. :lol

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 10:08 PM
Another suicide rant by you. What does the gap between the Spurs and Warriors have to do with the spur sucking? I just don't understand what you are trying to get at here. The warriors will definitely be tough to beat in a 7 game series but it's doable. The Spurs will have to play at a high level to pull it off much like they did in '14 against the Thunder and the Heat. I just don't understand what you are trying to get at here. Also saying this team is the second worst Spurs team of the decade is asinine. This team is clearly better than 2015 and 2016 team. Lee, Dedmon, Gasol, Bertans are upgrades over West,Diaw, and last year's Duncan.

The perimeter is definitely a weakness of the Spurs that the Warriors will have an edge against the Spurs but we'll see how it plays out. The Warriors are the favorites against the Spurs in a 7 game series but I do believe the Spurs have a chance in hell. I'm not willing to declare the season is over like a retard which you do every time the Spurs lose.


BULLSHIT, no effing way are they better than 2015 and 2016. 2016 was genuinely an elite defensive team, even though Duncan after February was a bummer.

2015 blows this team out of the water.

dabom
03-15-2017, 10:09 PM
Spurs teams aren't ranked by RS. Save your clifjumping for the Playoffs, faggot. :lmao

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 10:12 PM
Spurs teams aren't ranked by RS. Save your clifjumping for the Playoffs, faggot. :lmao

And you think this team is going pull through come playoff time? :lol :lol

spursistan
03-15-2017, 10:14 PM
Not sure why posters are laying into OP..

here is a question: outside Kawhi, do you know or have an approximation of what are getting from rest of roster on nightly basis, much less in the playoffs?

Leonard dropped a 34/9/6 and we still took an L vs the fuckin' Blazers on B2B..

dabom
03-15-2017, 10:14 PM
And you think this team is going pull through come playoff time? :lol :lol

I ain't a crying bitch every time we lose. You were probably doing this in 2014. :lmao

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 11:10 PM
Not sure why posters are laying into OP..

here is a question: outside Kawhi, do you know or have an approximation of what are getting from rest of roster on nightly basis, much less in the playoffs?

Leonard dropped a 34/9/6 and we still took an L vs the fuckin' Blazers on B2B..

:toast exactly

bic50
03-15-2017, 11:19 PM
Not sure why posters are laying into OP..

here is a question: outside Kawhi, do you know or have an approximation of what are getting from rest of roster on nightly basis, much less in the playoffs?

Leonard dropped a 34/9/6 and we still took an L vs the fuckin' Blazers on B2B..
lasharkus had a bad game.

illusioNtEk
03-15-2017, 11:24 PM
chill the fuck out everyone... its games like this that bring the best out of you.

Hoops Czar
03-15-2017, 11:26 PM
Is this the knee-jerk reaction thread of the night, tbh?

Well, it's turned into one of those silver and black blindfold thread where posters are in complete denial. Are we watching the same effing team?

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 11:27 PM
lasharkus had a bad season.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 11:28 PM
Well, it's turned into one of those silver and black blindfold thread where posters are in complete denial. Are we watching the same effing team?

This is what surprised me. I may be a cliff jumper but the amount of homerism from some of these posters is baffling. This team is a one man team.

Hoops Czar
03-15-2017, 11:29 PM
I ain't a crying bitch every time we lose. You were probably doing this in 2014. :lmao

No, but you and 85% of the posters in this thread won't be anywhere to be found after this team loses in the second round. And the cycle will repeat itself next year.

Dingle Barry
03-15-2017, 11:33 PM
:lol

One of those win-win threads for such a poster. They go all the way you are happy. They lose, you feel like you are smart and intelligent. Never really understand this.

You explain it perfectly, then follow that with you don't understand?

MI21
03-15-2017, 11:36 PM
You explain it perfectly, then follow that with you don't understand?

Allow me to elaborate. I don't really understand the mindset of why someone would bother say this.

Hoops Czar
03-15-2017, 11:39 PM
Allow me to elaborate. I don't really understand the mindset of why someone would bother say this.

Yeah, this is the 2015 and 2016 regular season all over again. Just wait until the postseason when you and evry other doubter eats their words... oh, wait.

ElNono
03-15-2017, 11:41 PM
No, but you and 85% of the posters in this thread won't be anywhere to be found after this team loses in the second round. And the cycle will repeat itself next year.

You can always find me, tbh... then again, I don't think any poster here guaranteed a championship...

Don't know if OP is black, but thread smells like frustration and cocoa butter after a loss, that's all...

Keepin' it real
03-15-2017, 11:42 PM
Team going to get exposed in the playoffs

I ain't scared.

sasaint
03-15-2017, 11:43 PM
This is what surprised me. I may be a cliff jumper but the amount of homerism from some of these posters is baffling. This team is a one man team.

Kerrite!

ElNono
03-15-2017, 11:46 PM
Yeah, this is the 2015 and 2016 regular season all over again. Just wait until the postseason when you and evry other doubter eats their words... oh, wait.

FWIW, this is easy and lazy too... predicting they're not going to win it all is basically taking the biggest odds. You can run with that every year and be right most of the time. It's hard to win a championship, and that applies even to the Cavs and Dubs.

I'm pretty sure you felt the same way in 2014 during the regular season (didn't look it up, but shouldn't be hard, tbh). Fact is, this team has some chances, which is all you can ask for. We can discuss the virtues or drawbacks of this roster and the opponents, and then, it's still relative. An injury, a suspension, many things can change a series outcome. That's why the games are played.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-15-2017, 11:46 PM
You can always find me, tbh... then again, I don't think any poster here guaranteed a championship...

Don't know if OP is black, but thread smells like frustration and cocoa butter after a loss, that's all...

Not black and you're probably right. I think you're very fair about how you view the team, but I really do think this team is missing something but let's see what happens.

ElNono
03-15-2017, 11:50 PM
Not black and you're probably right. I think you're very fair about how you view the team, but I really do think this team is missing something but let's see what happens.

Like I said, there's no sure thing here. But that applies to every team, even the contenders (whether you include the Spurs there or not).

As far as one man teams, when the Cavs were down 1-3, it did pretty much looked like Lebron took over. Tim in 2003 (and other years) was also just above and beyond anybody else. You get some people to step up and help, but having a stand out player isn't new. Hopefully Kawhi can be that guy when the time comes.

bic50
03-16-2017, 12:06 AM
No, but you and 85% of the posters in this thread won't be anywhere to be found after this team loses in the second round. And the cycle will repeat itself next year.
If only everyone would still show up after being wrong like yourself.

bic50
03-16-2017, 12:07 AM
This is what surprised me. I may be a cliff jumper but the amount of homerism from some of these posters is baffling. This team is a one man team.
Backing your team is now homerism?

dabom
03-16-2017, 12:08 AM
No, but you and 85% of the posters in this thread won't be anywhere to be found after this team loses in the second round. And the cycle will repeat itself next year.

I've been here the last 2 years. What are you smoking? :lmao

Hoops Czar
03-16-2017, 12:35 AM
FWIW, this is easy and lazy too... predicting they're not going to win it all is basically taking the biggest odds. You can run with that every year and be right most of the time. It's hard to win a championship, and that applies even to the Cavs and Dubs.

I'm pretty sure you felt the same way in 2014 during the regular season (didn't look it up, but shouldn't be hard, tbh). Fact is, this team has some chances, which is all you can ask for. We can discuss the virtues or drawbacks of this roster and the opponents, and then, it's still relative. An injury, a suspension, many things can change a series outcome. That's why the games are played.

Are you running for office, tbh? I've never seen anyone straddle the fence with their posts more than you and that's saying something. Let's here a take once in a while. I'm not being lazy and I'm not making a prediction. I'm flat out telling you that without penetrating guard play, solid defense and wings that consistently knockdown outside shots, the Spurs chances of winning are drastically reduced. We've seen the mid range jump shooting game play out in the postseason before or did you quite watching last year after the Memphis series sighting this is gonna be just too easy? The team in general isn't even better than last year's team. Shooting %'s inevitably decrease in the postseason so if the Spurs only answer like it has been for the last two season, is to dump it in the post to Leonard and let him try to bail out this fail of a roster, the Spurs chances of winning an NBA championship are very slim. Of course, Spurs fans are hoping and praying that the other elite teams in the conversation out implode the Spurs giving the Silver & Black a sliver of hope.


and then, it's still relative. An injury, a suspension, many things can change a series outcome. That's why the games are played.

This can literally be said about any team that's ever played in the NBA playoffs.... except the 2016 Grizzlies, they had no chance.

Ice009
03-16-2017, 12:45 AM
Spurs are pathetic with their personnel decisions.

Spurs get Joel Anthony and the Blazers get Nurkic for a bag of chips. Nurkic would have been a great get for the Spurs. He seems to be playing well for the Blazers.

ElNono
03-16-2017, 01:09 AM
Are you running for office, tbh? I've never seen anyone straddle the fence with their posts more than you and that's saying something. Let's here a take once in a while. I'm not being lazy and I'm not making a prediction. I'm flat out telling you that without penetrating guard play, solid defense and wings that consistently knockdown outside shots, the Spurs chances of winning are drastically reduced. We've seen the mid range jump shooting game play out in the postseason before or did you quite watching last year after the Memphis series sighting this is gonna be just too easy? The team in general isn't even better than last year's team. Shooting %'s inevitably decrease in the postseason so if the Spurs only answer like it has been for the last two season, is to dump it in the post to Leonard and let him try to bail out this fail of a roster, the Spurs chances of winning an NBA championship are very slim. Of course, Spurs fans are hoping and praying that the other elite teams in the conversation out implode the Spurs giving the Silver & Black a sliver of hope.

This can literally be said about any team that's ever played in the NBA playoffs.... except the 2016 Grizzlies, they had no chance.

What do you mean? I post takes all the time. Raymond Green is overrated AF, this team will not ring for a while once both Manu and Tim retire, Patty will get paid over the summer and the Spurs will likely won't be able to afford him, etc, etc, etc, you can find takes all around. They could be wrong, I'll own them. This post you just made has a lot more meat to it, and that's what I'm talking about. I might not agree with your take (or agree only in certain areas), and that's the whole point.

The defense is fine. You need a top 5 defense, and the Spurs are a top 5 defense. Do they sometimes get burned on the perimeter? Sure. But other teams get burned as much in the same or other areas. The Rockets are not a better defensive team than we are. The Clippers are not either. At least from what we've seen so far.

Are we betting the farm on Kawhi and LMA being able to exploit mismatches? Sure. Is that not a sure bet? Absolutely. But it's probably a better bet than 90% of the league. That's what gives the Spurs a chance that the other 90% of the teams don't have. There's never been a sure thing, that *IS* the point. If you bet money on the 73 wins Dubs winning it all last year, which looked as sure a bet as imaginable, you lost. That's not straddling the fence, that's the reality of this sport. And maybe if Raymond doesn't do something stupid, the Dubs do win.

Now, if you ask me if the ceiling for this team is the 2nd round, I gotta ask you, who are we playing in the 1st and 2nd round? Do we have guys hurt, do they? That stuff matters. Wouldn't you agree that, despite the flaws you see on this team, this is a top 4 team in the current West? I think that's a fair assessment.

I'm not calling you lazy for having an opinion (the post I'm quoting isn't lazy), it's the Darius Bieber style "we suck and we're done" with no points to it that adds nothing to the conversation, IMO.

BG_Spurs_Fan
03-16-2017, 01:55 AM
You mean they're not the favorites for the title? :lol

Sensational insight, worthy of a thread per par :tu

Spur|n|Austin
03-16-2017, 02:11 AM
Lol this shit take

Hoops Czar
03-16-2017, 02:29 AM
What do you mean? I post takes all the time. Raymond Green is overrated AF, this team will not ring for a while once both Manu and Tim retire, Patty will get paid over the summer and the Spurs will likely won't be able to afford him, etc, etc, etc, you can find takes all around. They could be wrong, I'll own them. This post you just made has a lot more meat to it, and that's what I'm talking about. I might not agree with your take (or agree only in certain areas), and that's the whole point.

Don't forget regular season games are meaningless (2015) :lmao, The Warriors are overrated (2015) :lmao Dat historic defense :lmao and the Rockets are a top 4 seed. :toast I still think the Raymond thread was a troll thread when it started.


The defense is fine. You need a top 5 defense, and the Spurs are a top 5 defense. Do they sometimes get burned on the perimeter? Sure. But other teams get burned as much in the same or other areas. The Rockets are not a better defensive team than we are. The Clippers are not either. At least from what we've seen so far.

Are we betting the farm on Kawhi and LMA being able to exploit mismatches? Sure. Is that not a sure bet? Absolutely. But it's probably a better bet than 90% of the league. That's what gives the Spurs a chance that the other 90% of the teams don't have. There's never been a sure thing, that *IS* the point. If you bet money on the 73 wins Dubs winning it all last year, which looked as sure a bet as imaginable, you lost. That's not straddling the fence, that's the reality of this sport. And maybe if Raymond doesn't do something stupid, the Dubs do win.

Now, if you ask me if the ceiling for this team is the 2nd round, I gotta ask you, who are we playing in the 1st and 2nd round? Do we have guys hurt, do they? That stuff matters. Wouldn't you agree that, despite the flaws you see on this team, this is a top 4 team in the current West? I think that's a fair assessment.

I'm not calling you lazy for having an opinion (the post I'm quoting isn't lazy), it's the Darius Bieber style "we suck and we're done" with no points to it that adds nothing to the conversation, IMO.

The problem with the Spurs is other than Kawhi, they lack players that play on both sides of the ball. They can bring in guys to boost the offense (Lee, Mills, Bertans, Gasol), but when they do, that top five defense is no longer. They can bring in guys to spark the defense (Deadman, Anderson, Ginobili, Aldridge?) and when they do, the offense struggles to put points on the board. It's sad how Danny Green doesn't fit into either of those categories anymore. The defense can be good but lacks any type of consistency to be great. What this means is the Spurs can play lockdown defense on one possession then, give up an uncontested layup on the next. The fact that the league is worse than last year's gives the Spurs a punchers chance but the Spurs lack of depth and Pop's willingness to trust and overuse scrubs/role players in high leverage situations will be the death of this team in the postseason.

I'm not upset with losing a game, it's the way they lost the game, missing long jump shots instead of attacking the painted area and creating easy opportunities. That's all they know. Aren't you sick and tired of hearing "Well, the Spurs had lots of open looks. If only they could knock them down." It's way to reminiscent of last year's team that lost to OKC.

2 and 4 at home in the last two postseasons against LAC and OKC and losing HCA four times during that span. I mean, do we really want home court advantage? This roster isn't more talented than Cleveland's or Golden State's. They'd have to play perfect basketball and still have to hope those team's make some mistakes down the stretch to give the Spurs a chance.

baseline bum
03-16-2017, 02:37 AM
If Durant isn't healthy by playoff time this title run is about as wide open as I have ever seen. The top 5 teams (Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Cavs, Clippers) all look like they'd be pretty evenly matched with no Durant or shit Durant in the playoffs.

Ditty
03-16-2017, 02:43 AM
We lost. It happens. Move on. They will be fine.

spursgu
03-16-2017, 03:56 AM
If Durant isn't healthy by playoff time this title run is about as wide open as I have ever seen. The top 5 teams (Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Cavs, Clippers) all look like they'd be pretty evenly matched with no Durant or shit Durant in the playoffs.

Agree with this

MultiTroll
03-16-2017, 04:35 AM
I'm not upset with losing a game, it's the way they lost the game, missing long jump shots instead of attacking the painted area and creating easy opportunities. That's all they know. Aren't you sick and tired of hearing "Well, the Spurs had lots of open looks. If only they could knock them down." It's way to reminiscent of last year's team that lost to OKC.

2 and 4 at home in the last two postseasons against LAC and OKC and losing HCA four times during that span. I mean, do we really want home court advantage? This roster isn't more talented than Cleveland's or Golden State's. They'd have to play perfect basketball and still have to hope those team's make some mistakes down the stretch to give the Spurs a chance.
Against which Western Conf playoff opponents will the Spurs have the coaching advantage?

Thomas82
03-16-2017, 05:24 AM
Not sure why posters are laying into OP..

here is a question: outside Kawhi, do you know or have an approximation of what are getting from rest of roster on nightly basis, much less in the playoffs?

Leonard dropped a 34/9/6 and we still took an L vs the fuckin' Blazers on B2B..

Kawhi had 34 and the rest of the starters had 39 points combined.

ElNono
03-16-2017, 05:37 AM
Don't forget regular season games are meaningless (2015) :lmao, The Warriors are overrated (2015) :lmao Dat historic defense :lmao and the Rockets are a top 4 seed. :toast I still think the Raymond thread was a troll thread when it started.

Hey, I don't claim to be right all the time... :lol

Then again, I had the same outlook in 2014. That doesn't mean I guaranteed a championship, what it means is that I see a team that can compete with most of the competition, and a few breaks here or there (which every champion needs) can get us over the hump. Writing them off right now makes no sense, tbh. Realistically speaking, you don't write off a near 60 win team... you just don't.


The problem with the Spurs is other than Kawhi, they lack players that play on both sides of the ball. They can bring in guys to boost the offense (Lee, Mills, Bertans, Gasol), but when they do, that top five defense is no longer. They can bring in guys to spark the defense (Deadman, Anderson, Ginobili, Aldridge?) and when they do, the offense struggles to put points on the board. It's sad how Danny Green doesn't fit into either of those categories anymore. The defense can be good but lacks any type of consistency to be great. What this means is the Spurs can play lockdown defense on one possession then, give up an uncontested layup on the next. The fact that the league is worse than last year's gives the Spurs a punchers chance but the Spurs lack of depth and Pop's willingness to trust and overuse scrubs/role players in high leverage situations will be the death of this team in the postseason.

I'm not upset with losing a game, it's the way they lost the game, missing long jump shots instead of attacking the painted area and creating easy opportunities. That's all they know. Aren't you sick and tired of hearing "Well, the Spurs had lots of open looks. If only they could knock them down." It's way to reminiscent of last year's team that lost to OKC.

2 and 4 at home in the last two postseasons against LAC and OKC and losing HCA four times during that span. I mean, do we really want home court advantage? This roster isn't more talented than Cleveland's or Golden State's. They'd have to play perfect basketball and still have to hope those team's make some mistakes down the stretch to give the Spurs a chance.

Well, this being a top-heavy, jump shooting team isn't any new revelation. So yeah, it's more dependent on having a hot hand and making the open looks. Defense will help you get some easy points, and when the defense is lacking, it's going to hurt us, no doubt about it. Then again, we're 3/4 into the season, and it's hard to fathom this particular roster having more success playing differently. The bench tries to move the ball more, but you just can't do much of that with the starters. Every team tries to play to their strengths, tbh... the Dubs gutted their team for Durant, and also changed the way they play. They're worse than last year, IMO (which doesn't imply they're not better than the current Spurs), so every team goes through transitions like that.

I don't think the Spurs are even thinking much about HCA outside the first few rounds. It's all about getting better as a team. Nights like these are disheartening, but it also has to be put in perspective: this team was also coming off a 9 or so game winning streak. You relax after stuff like that.

I would tend to agree that this team isn't more talented than the Cavs and Dubs, but in a 7 game series, I think they can compete. They would need some of the cold hands to get hot (Patty, Danny), but it has happened before. I just think writing them off is a mistake...

Amuseddaysleeper
03-16-2017, 08:38 AM
An article on why the Spurs may not be title contenders, not a perfect article by slender interesting points:


http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/san-antonio-spurs-nba-title-contenders-kawhi-leonard-lamarcus-aldridge-031617

coachmac87
03-16-2017, 08:49 AM
Most people haven't been fooled by them all season, so exposed isn't the right word. But yeah, they're not get good as their record or point differential and I have no confidence in them being an elite team (Warriors, Cavaliers, Rockets and I'm still including Cavaliers) and aren't even overly confident in them beating the Thunder or Grizzlies.

If only you watched every Thunder, Grizzlies, Rockets, Cavs, or Warriors games..and evaluate all of their games instead of reading box scores or watching selective games

Your tune would be different..tbh.

Spurs the only team that has significant flaws? Ok. They're still more consistent than 99% of the league..and have been for 20 years lol.

Spoiled fan base tbh. You don't even know what mediocre really is..

coachmac87
03-16-2017, 08:51 AM
An article on why the Spurs may not be title contenders, not a perfect article by slender interesting points:


http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/san-antonio-spurs-nba-title-contenders-kawhi-leonard-lamarcus-aldridge-031617

I dunno what your expectations are bruh..but it's a shame how miserable as a fan you must be...

sasaint
03-16-2017, 09:04 AM
Don't forget regular season games are meaningless (2015) :lmao, The Warriors are overrated (2015) :lmao Dat historic defense :lmao and the Rockets are a top 4 seed. :toast I still think the Raymond thread was a troll thread when it started.



The problem with the Spurs is other than Kawhi, they lack players that play on both sides of the ball. They can bring in guys to boost the offense (Lee, Mills, Bertans, Gasol), but when they do, that top five defense is no longer. They can bring in guys to spark the defense (Deadman, Anderson, Ginobili, Aldridge?) and when they do, the offense struggles to put points on the board. It's sad how Danny Green doesn't fit into either of those categories anymore. The defense can be good but lacks any type of consistency to be great. What this means is the Spurs can play lockdown defense on one possession then, give up an uncontested layup on the next. The fact that the league is worse than last year's gives the Spurs a punchers chance but the Spurs lack of depth and Pop's willingness to trust and overuse scrubs/role players in high leverage situations will be the death of this team in the postseason.

I'm not upset with losing a game, it's the way they lost the game, missing long jump shots instead of attacking the painted area and creating easy opportunities. That's all they know. Aren't you sick and tired of hearing "Well, the Spurs had lots of open looks. If only they could knock them down." It's way to reminiscent of last year's team that lost to OKC.

2 and 4 at home in the last two postseasons against LAC and OKC and losing HCA four times during that span. I mean, do we really want home court advantage? This roster isn't more talented than Cleveland's or Golden State's. They'd have to play perfect basketball and still have to hope those team's make some mistakes down the stretch to give the Spurs a chance.

Yep, that's the team I've been watching. Except in addition to the team's missing the wide open threes, Pau and Kawhi missed some crucial bunnies last night. The bum teams that the Spurs have lost games to - in the manner they lost - just make you shake your head.

SpursFan86
03-16-2017, 10:20 AM
Most people haven't been fooled by them all season, so exposed isn't the right word. But yeah, they're not get good as their record or point differential and I have no confidence in them being an elite team (Warriors, Cavaliers, Rockets and I'm still including Cavaliers) and aren't even overly confident in them beating the Thunder or Grizzlies.

This is taking it a bit too far IMO :lol No way in hell this team ever loses to either of those teams...think we'd sweep Memphis and beat OKC in 5, 6 games tops.

Would not be surprised if we lost to GS/Cleveland/Houston/LAC, though. Think we'd be favored against the latter two, but still wouldn't shock me at all if they managed to lose.

Keepin' it real
03-16-2017, 10:20 AM
We lost. It happens. Move on. They will be fine.

Very confusing and wordy post. Can you clarify?:hat

Dex
03-16-2017, 11:46 AM
Both teams played hard.

BatManu20
03-16-2017, 11:50 AM
Both teams played hard.

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/c_limit,w_680/fl_lossy,pg_1,q_auto/of5t1bper5w7h8uk7d6y.jpg

ElNono
03-16-2017, 12:13 PM
An article on why the Spurs may not be title contenders, not a perfect article by slender interesting points:

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/san-antonio-spurs-nba-title-contenders-kawhi-leonard-lamarcus-aldridge-031617

To be fair, the Spurs have been called old as dirt since at least 2007 (with Finley, Horry, Bowen, etc)... the rest of the points are generally valid...

Then again, I don't see a more try-hard team than the Dubs in the regular season, tbh, and they're not doing a whole lot better than the Spurs (and sure, KD's injury is part of that, but that's pretty recent regardless).

superbigtime
03-16-2017, 02:01 PM
Danny Green sucks.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-16-2017, 02:21 PM
To be fair, the Spurs have been called old as dirt since at least 2007 (with Finley, Horry, Bowen, etc)... the rest of the points are generally valid...

Then again, I don't see a more try-hard team than the Dubs in the regular season, tbh, and they're not doing a whole lot better than the Spurs (and sure, KD's injury is part of that, but that's pretty recent regardless).

Do you not feel the Dubs have at least let the foot off the gas this season as oppose to last, though? Although the Durant injury may no onger afford them that luxury. I think Kerr should have rested them against Minny and then played them against SA since SA was Kawhi and LMA.

TD 21
03-16-2017, 03:31 PM
If only you watched every Thunder, Grizzlies, Rockets, Cavs, or Warriors games..and evaluate all of their games instead of reading box scores or watching selective games

Your tune would be different..tbh.

Spurs the only team that has significant flaws? Ok. They're still more consistent than 99% of the league..and have been for 20 years lol.

Spoiled fan base tbh. You don't even know what mediocre really is..

I watch a lot of games, so my "tune" comes from a place of knowledge.

I didn't say "Spurs the only team that has significant flaws"; you did. I said, as I've been saying for 3 years now, theirs are too damaging to be able to win a championship.

Only someone with a loser mentality would consider assessing one's team without bias and not being satisfied with good enough, as "spoiled".



This is taking it a bit too far IMO :lol No way in hell this team ever loses to either of those teams...think we'd sweep Memphis and beat OKC in 5, 6 games tops.

Would not be surprised if we lost to GS/Cleveland/Houston/LAC, though. Think we'd be favored against the latter two, but still wouldn't shock me at all if they managed to lose.

Put it this way: Presuming there's no key injuries, I wouldn't predict it and I'd be surprised, but I wouldn't be shocked.

They would be considered favorites versus the Rockets and Clippers, but they shouldn't be. Those should be viewed as pick 'ems and again, I'd be surprised, but not shocked, if they beat either.



Spurs are pathetic with their personnel decisions.

Spurs get Joel Anthony and the Blazers get Nurkic for a bag of chips. Nurkic would have been a great get for the Spurs. He seems to be playing well for the Blazers.

:lmao The Trail Blazers gave up a youngish low end starting - to high end backup center, who's restricted. Dedmon would be the Spurs' equivalent of Plumlee, only he's not restricted and they wouldn't have his Bird rights.

If you want to question the Spurs for their recent personnel decisions, blame the bizarre amount of faith they showed in a relatively random D-Leaguer and an unimpressive late 1st. Sure, they were limited in what they could do financially, but they could have done better or at least created more competition for 4th wing minutes.

spurs10
03-16-2017, 03:40 PM
Not being cynical at all, but I wonder about the point of this thread? I know I'm not betting my home on us winning the championship, but I'm really enjoying watching them play. Last night was a major drag, but we are still 1 game out from being the #1 seed in the west and all of the NBA. I'm a big fan of this team and I wasn't expecting for us to be #1 in the NBA 36 hours ago.

Our weaknesses were exposed tonight and we don't need to wait for the playoffs to see that. We have 15 games to improve. Maybe our timing will be better than any of us expect. Also we are nearing the end of Manu's career and I'm going to enjoy watching him play while I can. If the point is we are not championship favorites I'd say 'okay, good' it makes any run we make all the more exciting. The easy bet as ElNono and many have said is we won't win.....along with 29 other teams including GSW and Cavs.

ElNono
03-16-2017, 05:26 PM
Do you not feel the Dubs have at least let the foot off the gas this season as oppose to last, though? Although the Durant injury may no onger afford them that luxury. I think Kerr should have rested them against Minny and then played them against SA since SA was Kawhi and LMA.

They're just a pretty different team (IIRC, they gutted about half their roster), so I'm sure they're going to have to work the chemistry issues, etc. That doesn't mean they don't have talent to spare, but I don't think their game is anywhere near as cohesive as it was last season and I don't think it has to do with letting the foot off the gas. Their top talent are desperately chasing individual awards on the regular, tbh...

xtremesteven33
03-16-2017, 05:44 PM
Keep pounding the rock. Unfinished product. I can see this team really coming together in the playoffs. Especially if they get the #1 seed. Momentum will be huge. The spurs do have flaws but so do all the other teams. Kawhi has more than enough to win a championship. He may not have another "Superstar", but he has the deepest team in the NBA by far and that matters just as much.

Slippy
03-16-2017, 06:29 PM
Not sure why posters are laying into OP..

here is a question: outside Kawhi, do you know or have an approximation of what are getting from rest of roster on nightly basis, much less in the playoffs?

Leonard dropped a 34/9/6 and we still took an L vs the fuckin' Blazers on B2B..
Spurs couldnt get stops in the 4th. Thats the reason they lost. Watch the 4th again & you see breakdowns on defending the p'n'r mainly by Kawai. Not too worried though since pop made no adjustments & went with the same gameplan to finish the 4th. Felt like a practice session tbh.

spurs10
03-16-2017, 06:42 PM
Keep pounding the rock. Unfinished product. I can see this team really coming together in the playoffs. Especially if they get the #1 seed. Momentum will be huge. The spurs do have flaws but so do all the other teams. Kawhi has more than enough to win a championship. He may not have another "Superstar", but he has the deepest team in the NBA by far and that matters just as much. This


Spurs couldnt get stops in the 4th. Thats the reason they lost. Watch the 4th again & you see breakdowns on defending the p'n'r mainly by Kawai. Not too worried though since pop made no adjustments & went with the same gameplan to finish the 4th. Felt like a practice session tbh. ....and this.

kaji157
03-16-2017, 06:44 PM
Spurs couldnt get stops in the 4th. Thats the reason they lost. Watch the 4th again & you see breakdowns on defending the p'n'r mainly by Kawai. Not too worried though since pop made no adjustments & went with the same gameplan to finish the 4th. Felt like a practice session tbh.

This was pretty evident.

100%duncan
03-16-2017, 08:03 PM
Do you think you are cool when you make and repeat water is wet takes like lma sucking?