McCain: Rand Paul 'is now working for Vladimir Putin'

[ElNono]

Sen. John McCain on Wednesday accused fellow Sen. Rand Paul of doing Russian President Vladimir Putin's bidding after Paul blocked an attempt to vote on a treaty for NATO membership for Montenegro.

"The senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin," McCain bluntly said of Paul on the Senate floor following the dust-up.

The Arizona Republican, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, was joined on the Senate floor by Democrats Ben Cardin of Maryland and Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire to push for debate and a vote on the treaty. But Paul, who has opposed further expansion of NATO, objected to McCain's request to consider the measure.

Russia has sought to prevent the small Balkan nation from coming under Western influence, and McCain warned about Russian attempts to destabilize Montenegro's government.

The treaty is expected to garner wide support in the Senate. Twenty-three of the 28 NATO member nations have voted in favor of Montenegro joining the alliance.

McCain slammed Paul for killing the vote "without any justification or any rationale."

"If there is objection, you are achieving the objectives of Vladimir Putin," McCain said. "You are achieving the objectives of trying to dismember this small country, which has already been the subject of an attempted coup."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mccain-rand-paul-is-now-working-for-vladimir-putin-236106

:lol McCain

[Reck]

:lol US politics

How can one senator kill a vote?

[Wild Cobra]

McCain is seriously losing it.

He needs to retire before everyone sees it.

[Reck]

McCain is seriously losing it.

He needs to retire before everyone sees it.

The irony. :lol

[Quadzilla99]

WTF is Paul's deal here?

[DMX7]

WC doesn't like John McCain because Agent Orange (AKA Trump) isn't a fan either.

[AaronY]

Did Paul explain himself?

[hater]

:lmao The mighty empire of Montenegro :lmao

Mcain :lol

[clambake]

not that long ago you guys were salivating for mccain.

the worm has turned.

thanks for being who we know you are.

[spurraider21]

Did Paul explain himself?nah, he just muttered something in russian on his way out

[DMX7]

:lmao The mighty empire of Montenegro :lmao

Mcain :lol

Do you even understand the vote? It's to put the NATO shield around Montenegro and protect it from Russia precisely because it isn't a mighty empire -- not because we need Montenegro to ever come to our aid.

[hater]

:lmao believing Russia will invade Montenegro :lmao

Its actually basically so they can get land to put more nukes pointing at Russia. Thats what joining Nato has basically become these days :lmao

[Chris]

McCain has such a hard on to go to war with Russia that the Leftist MSM propaganda machine has fully enveloped him with open arms.

[SnakeBoy]

Do you even understand the vote? It's to put the NATO shield around Montenegro and protect it from Russia precisely because it isn't a mighty empire -- not because we need Montenegro to ever come to our aid.

Yeah that's the reason :rolleyes

[Quadzilla99]

Yeah that's the reason :rolleyes

Well what's the real reason Paul voted it down?

[DMX7]

Yeah that's the reason :rolleyes


Russia has sought to prevent the small Balkan nation from coming under Western influence, and McCain warned about Russian attempts to destabilize Montenegro's government.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mccain-rand-paul-is-now-working-for-vladimir-putin-236106

[DMX7]

Well what's the real reason Paul voted it down?

He's an isolationist.

[Quadzilla99]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mccain-rand-paul-is-now-working-for-vladimir-putin-236106

So it can still go through the Senate or it's dead now?

[mavsfan1000]

McCain needs to retire already. He probably ran for President so he could fight Russia.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao believing Russia will invade Montenegro :lmao

Its actually basically so they can get land to put more nukes pointing at Russia. Thats what joining Nato has basically become these days :lmao

:lmao believing Russia will invade Ukraine :lmao
:lmao believing Russia will invade Georgia :lmao
:lmao believing Russia will invade Kazakhstan :lmao

[spurraider21]

McCain needs to retire already. He probably ran for President so he could fight Russia.who nominated him :lol

[clambake]

its not called "invade" anymore.

its called "adopt"

[hater]

:lmao believing Russia has a plan to invade Montenegro :lol

[clambake]

adopt

[Clipper Nation]

McCain is working for George Soros.

[DarrinS]

Russians everywhere

[spurraider21]

Russians everywhereyou looking through Trump's financials?

[ducks]

He is a disgrace to az
But he is a vet and people think you can not bash him

[rasuo214]

Do you even understand the vote? It's to put the NATO shield around Montenegro and protect it from Russia precisely because it isn't a mighty empire -- not because we need Montenegro to ever come to our aid.

Why is this in America's interest? Are you willing to fight a war or start WW3 over Montenegro?

[Quadzilla99]

Putin is not going to start a nuclear war. He's bluffing and hoping Trump and other Western nations are too pussy to call him on it.

[pgardn]

:lmao believing Russia will invade Ukraine :lmao
:lmao believing Russia will invade Georgia :lmao
:lmao believing Russia will invade Kazakhstan :lmao

They were invited into Crimea as well. And tourism, it's a boomin.

[pgardn]

Putin is not going to start a nuclear war. He's bluffing and hoping Trump and other Western nations are too pussy to call him on it.

He just hopes the rest of the world becomes shittier than Russia. And will attempt to make it so. Because drinking Aftershave is a great alternative to Vodka. Only you die.

[DMX7]

Why is this in America's interest? Are you willing to fight a war or start WW3 over Montenegro?

It's in our interest to preserve peace in Europe by deterring war, and it seems less likely Russia would violate Montenegro's territorial integrity and start a near war if it were protected by NATO. No nation-state has yet gone to war with a NATO country, so it's proven effective especially on a continent that was in constant conflict up until NATO's formation.

[mavsfan1000]

Putin is not going to start a nuclear war. He's bluffing and hoping Trump and other Western nations are too pussy to call him on it.
It's not worth the risk to see if he is bluffing or not. I think Trump has handled Putin quite well.

[rasuo214]

It's in our interest to preserve peace in Europe by deterring war, and it seems less likely Russia would violate Montenegro's territorial integrity and start a near war if it were protected by NATO. No nation-state has yet gone to war with a NATO country, so it's proven effective especially on a continent that was in constant conflict up until NATO's formation.

You understand that this is an intentionally provocative move towards the Russians, correct?


All I ask is are you personally willing to fight a war over Montenegro? I sure as hell wouldn't. When you expand an alliance it should be mutually beneficial. There should be a cost/benefit analysis instead of a tepid argument of "preserving peace". Last time I checked antagonizing other nations isn't a path towards peace nor does it deter war.

[DMX7]

You understand that this is an intentionally provocative move towards the Russians, correct?


All I ask is are you personally willing to fight a war over Montenegro? I sure as hell wouldn't. When you expand an alliance it should be mutually beneficial. There should be a cost/benefit analysis instead of a tepid argument of "preserving peace". Last time I checked antagonizing other nations isn't a path towards peace nor does it deter war.

Russia perceives the entire concept of NATO as provocative and threatening, yet it's a simple fact that Russia has never tried to invade a NATO state. That fact seems to undermine your argument.

Whether I am personally willing to fight in this unlikely and hypothetical war you write of is irrelevant as to whether expansion of NATO would preserve peace or not.

[rasuo214]

Russia perceives the entire concept of NATO as provocative and threatening, yet it's a simple fact that Russia has never tried to invade a NATO state. That fact seems to undermine your argument.

Whether I am personally willing to fight in this unlikely and hypothetical war you write of is irrelevant as to whether expansion of NATO would preserve peace or not.

My argument isn't anti-NATO it is against the inclusion of Montenegro into NATO. So how is my argument undermined? Has Russia tried to invade Montenegro? Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union how many Nations has Russia invaded? The answer to that is 1 (Crimea). How many Nations has the US invaded in that same time period? 3 (4 if you count Iraq twice).

So you're making an argument on a false premise. Russia isn't going around invading countries on a regular basis.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You understand that this is an intentionally provocative move towards the Russians, correct?


All I ask is are you personally willing to fight a war over Montenegro? I sure as hell wouldn't. When you expand an alliance it should be mutually beneficial. There should be a cost/benefit analysis instead of a tepid argument of "preserving peace". Last time I checked antagonizing other nations isn't a path towards peace nor does it deter war.

Chechnya 1999 Georgia 2008. It was not just Crimea.

Cost is nothing. As has been pointed out, countries don't attack NATO. The benefit is a country is able to self determine.

Now let's do a cost/benefit analysis of not supporting them, the potential for invasion and the regional destabilization that would result. What benefit is there? None

[boutons_deux]

Vlad's LONG GAME

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/putins-real-long-game-214589