The courts gave Trump great news about his Muslim ban, and almost no one noticed

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The courts gave Trump great news about his Muslim ban, and almost no one noticed

“Reasonable” conservatives on the federal bench think Trump should win.




CREDIT: AP Photo/Alex Brandon, File




Two big stories broke Wednesday regarding President Trump’s Muslim ban, but only one of them received the headlines it deserved. Worse, the largely unmentioned story is likely to have much deeper implications for the future than the story that dominated the news.

The first story, of course, was the fact that a federal judge in Hawai’i ordered a nationwide halt on the latest version of the Muslim ban — at least until the courts can figure out, in Trump’s words, “what the hell is going on.” Judge Derrick Watson’s decision halting the ban was soon matched by a similar decision by a federal judge in Maryland.

Meanwhile, the federal appeals court that ruled against the original version of Trump’s Muslim ban announced that it would not disturb that decision. In and of itself, that’s not particularly interesting: appeals courts rarely second-guess decisions by a panel of their own members. What is interesting — and disturbing for opponents of the Muslim ban — is that five judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit said Trump should have won his case.

And the fact that one of these judges in particular sided with Trump is bad news for lawyers hoping that the Muslim ban will ultimately be shut down by the Supreme Court.

The Ninth Circuit is one of the more liberal federal appeals courts — only 7 of its 25 active judges were appointed by Republican presidents — so the five judges who backed Trump make up the bulk of the court’s Republican-appointed members



https://thinkprogress.org/the-courts-gave-trump-great-news-about-his-muslim-ban-and-almost-no-one-noticed-67defe37662e#.ilaic8lpw

[hater]

Ducks you are late to the party.

Most experts already called Trump will win this. Its just a formality now

[mavsfan1000]

It's not a Muslim Ban. It is targeted on countries with Terrorism issues. TBH, Germany, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey should be included. We need to take down Radical Islamic Terrorism.

[Reck]

I actually dont have a problem with this revised order. It leaves alone the greencard holders and leaves out the religion shit. They should have no problem overturning this.

[spurraider21]

I actually dont have a problem with this revised order. It leaves alone the greencard holders and leaves out the religion shit. They should have no problem overturning this.i have a problem with it in that i dont agree with the policy, but yeah i dont think this one should have the same legal barriers as the first EO

[clambake]

if we just kill them, we don't need a ban.


wtf happened to the men here.

[mavsfan1000]

i have a problem with it in that i dont agree with the policy, but yeah i dont think this one should have the same legal barriers as the first EO
Of course you do. You are liberal. You don't care about our safety. If someone dies, it is blood on their hands for allowing ISIS to come here disguised as Refugees.

[spurraider21]

Of course you do. You are liberal. You don't care about our safety. If someone dies, it is blood on their hands for allowing ISIS to come here disguised as Refugees.i dont think it makes us safer

at least it's finally come full circle on this forum. not too long ago, th'pusher kept calling me a conservative republican :lol

[monosylab1k]

Of course you do. You are liberal. You don't care about our safety. If someone dies, it is blood on their hands for allowing ISIS to come here disguised as Refugees.

:lmao

[mavsfan1000]

:lmao
It would be funny if you want them in but live in a gated community. Were you laughing about 9/11 as well?

[monosylab1k]

It would be funny if you want them in but live in a gated community. Were you laughing about 9/11 as well?

If you really think that little executive order is going to keep you safe from the Islamic Boogeyman, then I'll keep laughing.

[mavsfan1000]

If you really think that little executive order is going to keep you safe from the Islamic Boogeyman, then I'll keep laughing.
I'm guessing you don't have the same recent info our President does. He has been briefed about this. What a surprise the attacks of ISIS came from those countries. Though Trump took Iraq off the list due to their help of fighting ISIS. Some bad dudes out there. I would feel safer with Saudi Arabia included on that list. But whatever.

[monosylab1k]

I'm guessing you don't have the same recent info our President does. He has been briefed about this. What a surprise the attacks of ISIS came from those countries. Though Trump took Iraq off the list due to their help of fighting ISIS. Some bad dudes out there. I would feel safer with Saudi Arabia included on that list. But whatever.

:lmao skipping the official briefing and instead watching Fox & Friends while an intern prints you Infowars articles isn't being "briefed" about anything.

[mavsfan1000]

:lmao skipping the official briefing and instead watching Fox & Friends while an intern prints you Infowars articles isn't being "briefed" about anything.
Well Steve Doocy is quite entertaining. Presidents got a right to have some entertainment. We know Obama had nonstop entertainment.

[spurraider21]

:lmao skipping the official briefing and instead watching Fox & Friends while an intern prints you Infowars articles isn't being "briefed" about anything.
:rollin

[monosylab1k]

Well Steve Doocy is quite entertaining. Presidents got a right to have some entertainment. We know Obama had nonstop entertainment.

:lol let's not talk about nonstop entertainment. Your guy is already on his fifth vacation and he's like 2 months in.

[baseline bum]

:lmao skipping the official briefing and instead watching Fox & Friends while an intern prints you Infowars articles isn't being "briefed" about anything.

Fuck :lmao

[mavsfan1000]

:lol let's not talk about nonstop entertainment. Your guy is already on his fifth vacation and he's like 2 months in.
Lol 2 day vacations. Obama took way longer vacations. If you call the weekend a vacation. :lol

[spurraider21]

http://static.snopes.com/app/uploads/2017/02/trump-obama-golf-tweet.jpg

[spurraider21]

Crime and poverty at home, destruction and chaos abroad... and he's golfing. :rolleyes

[monosylab1k]

Lol 2 day vacations. Obama took way longer vacations. If you call the weekend a vacation. :lol

Oh I forgot how the country stops down completely for the weekend. No need for an acting President on those days. Everyone just golfs!

[DMX7]

It would be funny if you want them in but live in a gated community. Were you laughing about 9/11 as well?

That crew came from Saudi Arabia, not one of the countries on "the list".

[Quadzilla99]

:lmao skipping the official briefing and instead watching Fox & Friends while an intern prints you Infowars articles isn't being "briefed" about anything.

rofl

[leemajors]

I'm guessing you don't have the same recent info our President does. He has been briefed about this. What a surprise the attacks of ISIS came from those countries. Though Trump took Iraq off the list due to their help of fighting ISIS. Some bad dudes out there. I would feel safer with Saudi Arabia included on that list. But whatever.

Holy shit you're dumb

[mavsfan1000]

Holy shit you're dumb
Explain how that is dumb.

[hater]

I actually disagree with the ban niggas. Im a business man and I hire lots of foreigns from those countries and they are some of the best workers. Especially Iranians and Syrians.

Its just a stupid marketing move Trump is doing to appease his fat red neck legion of fans.

There is absolutely no proof this keeps us safer. And absolutely no benefit.

Remember 100% of the 911 terrorist were saudis :lol

Also Iraq is not in the list mst of ISIS are Iraqis :lol

Still Trump will win this. But its so pointless

[Th'Pusher]

i dont think it makes us safer

at least it's finally come full circle on this forum. not too long ago, th'pusher kept calling me a conservative republican :lol

My initial impression of you was more of a law and order, Bill O'Riley type republican as opposed to an ideological conservative.

[spurraider21]

My initial impression of you was more of a law and order, Bill O'Riley type republican as opposed to an ideological conservative.
No you were just an asshole because I thought there are cases where cops aren't in the wrong.

[cd021]

Of course you do. You are liberal. You don't care about our safety. If someone dies, it is blood on their hands for allowing ISIS to come here disguised as Refugees.

So if the Muslim ban goes through and there is still a San Berandino that goes down, it's the liberals fault?:rolleyes Neither ban is going to stop a terrorist attack, real or imaginary :lol

[cd021]

I actually disagree with the ban niggas. Im a business man and I hire lots of foreigns from those countries and they are some of the best workers. Especially Iranians and Syrians.

Its just a stupid marketing move Trump is doing to appease his fat red neck legion of fans.

There is absolutely no proof this keeps us safer. And absolutely no benefit.

Remember 100% of the 911 terrorist were saudis :lol

Also Iraq is not in the list mst of ISIS are Iraqis :lol

Still Trump will win this. But its so pointless

Omar Mateen was born in New York and was a U.S. citizen, the ban wouldn't have stopped him from killing 49 people.

It boggles the mind how people think this will keep America safe.

[z0sa]

It's not a Muslim Ban. It is targeted on countries with Terrorism issues. TBH, Germany, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey should be included. We need to take down Radical Islamic Terrorism.

Ban immigration from military partnerships? Lol okay

[703 Spurz]

Lol 2 day vacations. Obama took way longer vacations. If you call the weekend a vacation. :lol

I call it wasting taxpayers money by the tune of 3 million a weekend. Obama took longer vacations eh? Every motherfucking weekend?

[RandomGuy]

It's not a Muslim Ban. It is targeted on countries with Terrorism issues. TBH, Germany, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey should be included. We need to take down Radical Islamic Terrorism.

Trump's tweets and statements say it is.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2017/06/mistweeted

LOL "it's most definitely not a muslim ban", (trump: it is a muslim ban)

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Trump Is Exporting America's Travel Ban with Thousands of TSA & DHS Agents in 70 Countries

One German politician says DHS’s interrogations at foreign airports constitute an extrajudicial travel ban.


A New York Times investigation has revealed how the Department of Homeland Security is increasingly going global, with thousands of agents from the Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Administration stationed in more than 70 countries around the world.

Hundreds more DHS workers are deployed at sea on Coast Guard ships or in the skies on surveillance planes.

Stationing ICE overseas is reportedly about four times as expensive as a domestic post.

Now some countries are accusing DHS of attempting to export the United States’ restrictive immigration laws,

https://www.alternet.org/immigration/trump-exporting-americas-travel-ban-thousands-tsa-dhs-agents-70-countries

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Homeland Security Goes Abroad. Not Everyone Is Grateful.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/26/world/americas/homeland-security-customs-border-patrol.html

$10Ms, if no $100Ms, spent on expatriating DHS goons.