Lowe: Kawhi defense slipped by like 8% this year--I won't vote him DPOY..

[spursistan]

Discussion with Simmons starts @ 42:12




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gkmHbIsN0A

Also: two straight bad games for him with the Spurs falling behind in Top seed race, his MVP chances are starting to fade. Short of of Leonard and the team going on another tear to end the season, it could be curtains soon..


There is nothing to see here: Playoffs are where player narratives/legacies are set..Kawhi has got to reestablish order as far as his flagging "defensive" rep among NBA watchers-- that's among other things like having a dominant offensive series wire-to-wire including taking over crucial games..

[Keepin' it real]

Apa be like:

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[Solid D]

"Slipped by like 8% this year" sounds pretty scientific to me.

[dabom]

"Slipped by like 8% this year" sounds pretty scientific to me.

I'm still confused by title. :lol

[spursistan]

Something has to be said about Kawhi habit of sometimes going through the motions in games when he isn't matched-up against an elite or even decent SFs (PG/Butler/Wiggins of the worlds etc..)...I think he is intensity level dips against the likes of Mbah Mboute/Ariza etc..

[itzsoweezee]

What is that stat based on, defensive real plus minus? Seems to be a very simplistic analysis.

[marinoman]

Dammit Kawhi, a 3% drop is tolerable, even 6%, BUT 8%! 8!?!?! You stupid son of a bitch

[dabom]

Dammit Kawhi, a 3% drop is tolerable, even 6%, BUT 8%! 8!?!?! You stupid son of a bitch

:lol

[BillMc]

For every star they build you up to a point, then the expectations get unrealistic and they tear you down. Kawhi's hitting stage 2 with the media now. Nothing to see here. It's natural. Only more championships will cure it.

[bklynspursfan]

I hope Gobert wins it. Doesn't seem Kawhi will, unless he gets more 2nd/3rd place votes which I guess is possible.

I just want a Raymond melt down.

[BillMc]

I hope Gobert wins it. Doesn't seem Kawhi will, unless he gets more 2nd/3rd place votes which I guess is possible.

I just want a Raymond melt down.

Agreed. Sadly, we won't know until after the postseason this year. Not nearly as fun.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

He's just saying that the offensive load is taking up more of his energy and so his defense has dropped by a tiny smidge. He still calls him the best perimeter defender in the league. But since Draymond is still Draymond and Gobert has emerged like he has, Kawhi probably won't win DPOY again.

[GSH]

"Slipped by like 8% this year" sounds pretty scientific to me.


Heh. That was my first thought. Like, "7% we might consider. But 8% is just too much to overlook".

You know... offense, they have to look at a variety of factors. But for defense, they've got one single, accurate number that they use to evaluate. :rolleyes What a damn joke.

[Cry Havoc]

Can confirm, opponents against Kawhi are 8% more opponent than they were last year.

[rastaspur]

And my nuts hang 8 percent lower this year than last year. Gravity and father time are a bitch.

[tmtcsc]

My respect for Lowe just dropped by 8%. It's now at 0.

[TheGreatYacht]

Donkey Green will win it unfortunately. Him, his donkey momma, coaches, teammates, and DisnESPN are all campaigning for him.

Rooting for Gobert

[Yuixafun]

My respect for Lowe just dropped by 8%. It's now at 0.



Man... that's how you set up, and punch... while keeping the joke running without getting tired.

Rarified air Sir.

[GSH]

My respect for Lowe just dropped by 8%. It's now at 0.

:toast

[Chinook]

I've been taking a lot of exception to Lowe recently, but he said nothing terrible. Anyone with eyes should be able to see Kawhi hasn't played as good of D as he has in the past. There are justifiable and unjustifiable explanations for that. But it's true regardless.

Simmons' point is a piece of shit. Sample size bears out the stats, not the "eye-test" the more time goes on. The more you play, the more concrete the numbers get. That said, that doesn't mean they explain what people assume they do. Kawhi can be the best defender while not having had the best defensive season this year. Curry's the best shooter perhaps ever, but he's definitely not having the best shooting year.

[Mal]

I am not watching Spurs much this season, but dose this 8% drop consider people avoiding him at all costs ? Or avoiding going 1 on 1 at him ? I mean I saw when he singlehanded shut down Wiggins or Paul George (miss him).

[tmtcsc]

Man... that's how you set up, and punch... while keeping the joke running without getting tired.

Rarified air Sir.


:toast

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[Horse]

Fuck this guy. How about Durant is the warriors best defender so fuck gaymond. And westbrick or hardon could loss 3 straight but if they have their triple-doulbes they're the mvp?

[BatManu20]

It's been Draymond's to lose for a while now.

[Brazil]

:lol like 8%

if it was 7,5% that would be ok ?

[still.focused]

Hes still the best defender in the league

[kaji157]

Truth is kawhi only chance to win the mvp is if the spurs get the first seed.
And the dpoy was there as a compensation if even in that scenario the mvp was given to someone else.

[szkorhetz]

When I said it during the Christmas game against the Bulls, I was literally terrorized in the game thread.

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[emanueldavidginobili]

He can't win it every year. And I agree that him shouldering most of the load on the offensive end is taking an effect on his defensive of plays, some times he's just blatantly lazy on some defense of possessions.

[loveforthegame]

Maybe the Spurs can trade him before it hits 10%.

[pgardn]

By like 8%...

Love the statistical rigidity we are held to.

[TheGreatYacht]

Looks like he won't be voted MVP either tbh

[Arcadian]

Don't care. He already won it twice. Moving on to bigger things.

[pgardn]

Looks like he won't be voted MVP either tbh

So what.

He is a fantastic player that can get even better.
And he is a Spur. No one I would rather have at that position.

We are a guard away.

[bklynspursfan]

Figured I'd share these Matt Moore tweets here

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[SAGirl]

RAymond's case:
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[John Petrucci]

Was nice to hear Simmons mention having to at some point take "eye test" into equation while giving Kawhi a ton of credit. First time I've heard that from a big analyst all season. It's all been advanced stats talk to try to tear down Kawhi (as a defender)

[spursistan]

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Think Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) has mentioned his point..

And so, the subsequent drop in the number of contested shots is pretty alarming (2 less)..Kawhi is either a tad late to get back on defense or he's simply not giving maximum effort..

[dabom]

Chinook also said dedmon was a better defender than kawhi. :lmao

[Hoops Czar]

He's just saying that the offensive load is taking up more of his energy and so his defense has dropped by a tiny smidge. He still calls him the best perimeter defender in the league. But since Draymond is still Draymond and Gobert has emerged like he has, Kawhi probably won't win DPOY again.

And LMA is the polar opposite where his offense is suffering because of his commitment on the defensive end.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

And LMA is the polar opposite where his offense is suffering because of his commitment on the defensive end.

I agree, though I think the issue with him is the Whataburger syndrome...

[YGWHI]

Think Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) has mentioned his point..

And so, the subsequent drop in the number of contested shots is pretty alarming (2 less)..Kawhi is either a tad late to get back on defense or he's simply not giving maximum effort..

Nah. Thinking it's alarming is just stupid. Look at Harden's contested and we already know he's not a good defender.

Like Eberley said...That means NOTHING.



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[Horse]

Kawhi is DPOY again even if he doesn't win it cause they feel sorry for donkey. Did anyone ever consider teams getting down big to the warriors and chucking for whole quarters or halves making gaymond's #'s look better?