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spursistan
03-23-2017, 10:46 PM
Over his last 20 games: 30% 3PT/ 84 % FT...

Whatever happened to his stroke on both shots .Just when i thought he is going to become an automatic 90% shooter and stabilize as a 39-42% 3PT gunner, he suddenly seems to be trending back down to his early career percentages..

Let's hope this is just blip (though a recent shitty shot selection trend could be blamed on 3pt % dip)..Otherwise this could be an issue that lowers his ceiling and.....lose you playoffs games...

Robz4000
03-23-2017, 10:49 PM
Tired legs imo. After this home stand and if/when the Dubs grow their lead on the #1 seed and Houston loses another game or two Leonard should be shut down for a week or so.

Leetonidas
03-23-2017, 10:50 PM
Agree with Robz...Hes been carrying the team and dominating all season, probably time to quit chasing the 1 seed since they blew it and just start resting him imo

DesignatedT
03-23-2017, 10:52 PM
Little fatigue. He'll be fine. Good for the rest of the team to have to find ways to win and play better.

MultiTroll
03-23-2017, 10:55 PM
Ya hope his orbital bone hit didn't jack up his vision and timing.

That and the "LMA as #1 option" Marty Popenheimer offense.

GSH
03-23-2017, 10:57 PM
Everyone is worried.

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cjw
03-23-2017, 11:02 PM
84% FT shooting is nothing to worry about as it's still very good . Means about 9 more misses on 168 shots over the last 20 games. More impressively is getting to the line 8.5 times per game.

30% from three is a little more disconcerting but still is very different than a spot up shooter struggling like that. He's hitting less because of tighter defense and more ball dominance. It's not like defenses will stop completely defending him from the line and it impacting the rest of the offense. Perhaps more forcing him to drive, but results there are rock solid.

Play Boban
03-23-2017, 11:14 PM
Regressing prior to the playoffs per par tbh...

jARS mEsH sEt
03-24-2017, 12:51 AM
It's particularly disconcerting because he has very average handles among the superstar SFs. He's always had trouble beating people off the dribble. I think that weakness will be exacerbated if doesn't get back to 40% on 3s.

G-Dawgg
03-24-2017, 01:04 AM
When you ride your main horse so hard all year, he's bound to get tired.

spursistan
03-27-2017, 09:30 PM
Ugh..Dude can't buy one behind the arc.. :(

Play Boban
03-27-2017, 09:39 PM
When you ride your main horse so hard all year, he's bound to get tired.
Superstars don't get tired.

Play Boban
03-27-2017, 09:41 PM
0-7. :lol

DAF86
03-27-2017, 09:43 PM
Didn't he go 4 of 6 last game, or something like that?

Sigz
03-27-2017, 09:50 PM
His 3pt shot is broke.

FkLA
03-27-2017, 09:52 PM
There's a difference between regression and slumps. Even the best of shooters have slumps.

SpursFan86
03-27-2017, 09:52 PM
Obviously he's been unreal in the 2nd half of the season, but we really need him being a consistent deep threat in the playoffs. We're not winning a title with him shooting 30% from 3.

Keepin' it real
03-27-2017, 09:54 PM
He's shooting too many 3s. That's part of the problem.

Kool Bob Love
03-27-2017, 09:55 PM
Tired legs at 25 years old.:lmao

SAGirl
03-27-2017, 09:56 PM
He will bounce back when it counts. Not worried about Kiwi.

vander
03-27-2017, 09:57 PM
imagine if Danny and Kawhi both get their shot back in the playoffs, and LMA starts playing aggressive in the block...

bic50
03-27-2017, 10:06 PM
Superstars don't get tired.
Hes not tired. He's just not making his 3s

hater
03-27-2017, 10:07 PM
EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!!!

Spur|n|Austin
03-27-2017, 10:13 PM
He'll be better rested with more time between games in the PO's.

TheGreatYacht
03-27-2017, 10:13 PM
Tired legs at 25 years old.:lmao
:lol

PopTheGOAT
03-27-2017, 10:17 PM
Regressing prior to the playoffs per par tbh...
Oh, look! Another faggot

cd98
03-27-2017, 10:19 PM
Def 3 point slump but that stuff evens out. There's times when he seems like he'll never miss.

TheDoctor
03-27-2017, 10:28 PM
The guy/team outplayed LeBron/Cavs for the season :lol

HankChinaski
03-27-2017, 10:47 PM
I am personally not worried by his three point shooting percentage at this point. He seems at times to rise without his legs underneath an his range of motion with his release isn't fluid either with majority of this misses even then they are bouncing in an out or lined up center mass just hitting short.

With the rest of his game working for him the way it is teams will have to give him spacing on D and challenge him to make those 3s an Kawhi shooting those shots with room to shoot more I feel confident he'll drop them in the bucket.

Play Boban
03-27-2017, 10:49 PM
Oh, look! Another faggot
You should look in the mirror tbh.

Play Boban
03-27-2017, 10:50 PM
There's a difference between regression and slumps. Even the best of shooters have slumps.
Porker ruined his shot tbh. Too many hot dogs.

YGWHI
03-27-2017, 10:52 PM
Obviously he's been unreal in the 2nd half of the season, but we really need him being a consistent deep threat in the playoffs. We're not winning a title with him shooting 30% from 3.

They still can. If Kawhi shots .80% on 2P shots like tonight. Or he runs more P&Rs...Or he gets the ball in the post more instead of clanking 3PA after 3PA...


Kawhi shouldn't take 7 3's a game, that's a stupid team-strategy for a scorer who leads the league in PPP as ball-handler, and is .93 percentile in post-up situations.


Plus, to win something, the starting backcourt need to make some shots to make rivals pay when the double Kawhi...Tonight Parker and Danny couldn't hit an ocean 2-10 combined.

At least, we had Dikembe Green there but he needs to hit his 3's against elite teams.

PopTheGOAT
03-27-2017, 10:57 PM
You should look in the mirror tbh.
Good one

BG_Spurs_Fan
03-28-2017, 01:16 AM
He took a lot of bad shots from 3 and missed them but it's partially heat check for him and partially by design as he needs defenders to worry about him pulling up for a 3 off the dribble. He can't be a 3 point threat only on set up catch and shoot situations. Every team's primary offensive option needs to be aggressive even if they have to take a bad shot here and there.

G-Dawgg
03-28-2017, 06:59 AM
Superstars don't get tired.
The Golden State Warriors' superstars looked pretty tired blowing a 3-1 in the finals last year after trying so hard to chase that record for wins last season...

still.focused
03-28-2017, 07:11 AM
Tired legs and quite a few bail out 3s
And by "quite a few" I mean too many

Play Boban
03-28-2017, 07:43 AM
The Golden State Warriors' superstars looked pretty tired blowing a 3-1 in the finals last year after trying so hard to chase that record for wins last season...
They are fake superstars.

Seventyniner
03-28-2017, 07:44 AM
Kawhi shouldn't take 7 3's a game, that's a stupid team-strategy for a scorer who leads the league in PPP as ball-handler, and is .93 percentile in post-up situations.

http://stats.nba.com/players/post-up/#!?sort=Percentile&dir=1

Kawhi is 88th percentile in postups, 1.06 PPP. That's fantastic, but still only equivalent to shooting 35.3% from three. He's most dangerous when he's unpredictable.

I agree that he shouldn't take 7 threes per game on average, but he has to have the green light to shoot 7 threes if that's what the defense gives him.

MultiTroll
03-28-2017, 09:13 AM
http://stats.nba.com/players/post-up/#!?sort=Percentile&dir=1

Kawhi is 88th percentile in postups, 1.06 PPP. That's fantastic, but still only equivalent to shooting 35.3% from three. He's most dangerous when he's unpredictable.

I agree that he shouldn't take 7 threes per game on average, but he has to have the green light to shoot 7 threes if that's what the defense gives him.
Agree.
But 4 of his 7 last night were forced Kobme attempts.
Needs to knock that chit off.

Amuseddaysleeper
03-28-2017, 12:27 PM
The Spurs as a whole were absolute shit from downtown last night. If Gasol is going to be our best 3 point shooter we are screwed from outside.

If the Warriors shoot at least 35% from downtown the Spurs could be in trouble because of the lack of firepower.

Still, a great win the other night nonetheless :toast

Joseph Kony
03-28-2017, 12:35 PM
The Spurs as a whole were absolute shit from downtown last night. If Gasol is going to be our best 3 point shooter we are screwed from outside.

If the Warriors shoot at least 35% from downtown the Spurs could be in trouble because of the lack of firepower.

Still, a great win the other night nonetheless :toast pretty bad assessment considering hes been money from three this year tbh

Leetonidas
03-28-2017, 01:47 PM
Gasol is shooting 53.5% from 3 this season :wow

LaMarcus Bryant
03-28-2017, 01:48 PM
Kawhi has totally destroyed his percentages lately

Amuseddaysleeper
03-28-2017, 02:25 PM
pretty bad assessment considering hes been money from three this year tbh

He only takes 2-3 three pointers a game. I'd rather out best 3 point shooter take more. Gasol has been great from downtown, but I don't know that I want our best 3 point shooter being a center playing so far away from the basket.

Play Boban
03-28-2017, 07:36 PM
Gasol is shooting 53.5% from 3 this season :wow
mvPau. :wow

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G-Dawgg
03-28-2017, 07:56 PM
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G-Dawgg
03-28-2017, 07:57 PM
They are fake superstars.

That's dumb.

Seventyniner
03-28-2017, 08:12 PM
He only takes 2-3 three pointers a game. I'd rather out best 3 point shooter take more. Gasol has been great from downtown, but I don't know that I want our best 3 point shooter being a center playing so far away from the basket.

But with Pau shooting it so well, there's plenty of room to have a high volume three-point shooter hit a good percentage and not lead the team in that category. Unless that's not what you meant.

Play Boban
03-28-2017, 08:39 PM
That's dumb.
So are you.

Leetonidas
03-28-2017, 09:04 PM
I would actually argue that Pau being out best 3pt shooter is a very good thing for our offense. Kawhi has a very complete offensive game and can get his points anywhere. Our center being able to step out to the line and bit it at a ridiculous percentage opens up the offense for everyone especially considering he's a great passer. Tbh

Ice009
03-29-2017, 10:17 PM
This caught my eye well before anyone else even mentioned it. I was looking at his stats around the All-star break, or just before it and noticed his road 3 point percentage was a dismal 32%. Ever since then, his percentage has been going down and down. Both at home or on the road, it doesn't matter, it's gone down the shitter anywhere he's playing.

I posted this below in the game thread, but I think he needs at least some sort of respectable 3 ball to loosen up defenses on him. If not, teams can double team him inside. This is big trouble for Kawhi and the Spurs if he can't hit 3s.


Fuck it. I said it before anyone else here over a month ago, but Kawhi's 3 ball is killing him. I was a little worried about it when I bought it up, but now I'm really worried about it. It's limited his game tonight by not even being able to hit the broad side of a barn. The defense is tight on him and he can't hit a 3 ball to loosen it up. Bad news for Kawhi and the Spurs.

No-one seems to acknowledge this. STAMP this shit on your foreheads. This could cost us the season if Kawhi's 3 ball is gone. Forget about the WCF, Spurs could be done well before then if Kawhi can't hit a 3 the rest of the season to save his life. Already missed another on a good look. I won't count that last one.

hater
03-29-2017, 10:34 PM
We werent going to get out of 2nd round with him shooting 45% either tbqh

Fools gold

midnightpulp
03-29-2017, 10:34 PM
Worry confirmed. He's like 5 for his last 30 from downtown, including a 0-12 over the last two games. Not sure what's going on. Awful tonight.

MultiTroll
03-29-2017, 10:45 PM
Worry confirmed. He's like 5 for his last 30 from downtown, including a 0-12 over the last two games. Not sure what's going on. Awful tonight.
Didn't it all start with the eye socket hit when he got elbowed by that phaggot?

Ice009
03-29-2017, 10:47 PM
Didn't it all start with the eye socket hit when he got elbowed by that phaggot?

What eye socket hit? The concussion?

Man, if that is what you're saying, you guys haven't been paying attention at all. It started well before then, weeks before then, maybe a month before then.

spurs1990
03-29-2017, 10:53 PM
Worry confirmed. He's like 5 for his last 30 from downtown, including a 0-12 over the last two games. Not sure what's going on. Awful tonight.

Just looked it up - 6 out of 34 in the last six games.

spurraider21
03-29-2017, 10:54 PM
Worry confirmed. He's like 5 for his last 30 from downtown, including a 0-12 over the last two games. Not sure what's going on. Awful tonight.are you saying something critical of kawhi? you must be a french porker lover!

spursistan
03-29-2017, 11:12 PM
This is now officially a thing..And it is not the abysmal 3PT shooting alone, you could almost count him for FTs split or two each game..Just something awry with the mechanics of his shot especially from behind the arc....

Ice009
03-29-2017, 11:52 PM
This is now officially a thing..And it is not the abysmal 3PT shooting alone, you could almost count him for FTs split or two each game..Just something awry with the mechanics of his shot especially from behind the arc....

Kawhi seems to be a mechanics shooter. I am not. I liken myself to someone like Reggie Miller, someone that doesn't have a picture perfect shot, but has a good feel for shooting the ball. A pure shooter, so even if my mechanics are a little off on my shot, I can still make it. Kawhi seems like he is all mechanics, where if his mechanics are off a little bit, he's not likely to make the shot. Looking at all those 3 point bricks he's thrown up lately, it just looks like he doesn't have a feel for shooting the 3 point shot at all. Maybe he's fatigued, and that is really throwing his shooting mechanics off just enough for him to miss the shot, sometimes, even miss it badly.

I'm not really a shooter than relies on picture perfect mechanics, so I don't really know for sure if that is the case/problem with Kawhi's 3 point shooting.

TheGreatYacht
03-29-2017, 11:55 PM
After an 0/7 from three game, he follows it up with 0/5.

Average FT shooter now too