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$pursDynasty
03-26-2017, 04:51 PM
Just a pure scorer. Not that I really wanted Patty and Fathead gone, but seeing how the Lakers just want to tank, we could have pulled it off. What a steal for the Rox.

TheGreatYacht
03-26-2017, 05:55 PM
One of the best 6th man in history tbh.. up there with John Havlicek, Jamal Crawford, Kevin McHale, Jason Terry, Dell Curry, Detlef Schrempf, Lamar Odom, and 2017 Pau Gasol.

Canyonero
03-26-2017, 07:04 PM
Tony could have taken care of his GFs

SAGirl
03-26-2017, 08:51 PM
I think it was Lou who chose the Rockets but it's no matter if Spurs plan to reup Mills they weren't going to trade him.

cjw
03-26-2017, 10:46 PM
I think it was Lou who chose the Rockets but it's no matter if Spurs plan to reup Mills they weren't going to trade him.

Lou didn't have a no trade clause so what is this supposed to mean? Pretty sure the Lakers took the best offer they got.

Only a few players in the league plus some guys on one year deals have no trade clauses. This isn't hockey or baseball with 10-5 players.

SAGirl
03-27-2017, 12:29 AM
Lou didn't have a no trade clause so what is this supposed to mean? Pretty sure the Lakers took the best offer they got.

Only a few players in the league plus some guys on one year deals have no trade clauses. This isn't hockey or baseball with 10-5 players.
Nah Magic Johnson got Lou's agent involved... all part of building good will with FA and agents etc... Judt bc he wouldn't have been able to prevent a trade doesn't mean the Lakers had to be an ass.

they sent him to a place he wanted to go. He wasn't t dumped or anything of that sort.

But you missed the main point... it took a 1st round pick to trade him which wasn't included in the OP post, plus he included Mills which I am guessing wasn't up for trade by the Spurs.

BG_Spurs_Fan
03-27-2017, 01:54 AM
Even if the Spurs wanted him why would have Lakers wanted the worse pick out of Rockets and Spurs?

Also, trading for him would have almost guaranteed being unable to keep Dedmon at anything above MLE.

vander
03-27-2017, 02:50 AM
Even if the Spurs wanted him why would have Lakers wanted the worse pick out of Rockets and Spurs?

Also, trading for him would have almost guaranteed being unable to keep Dedmon at anything above MLE.

Dedmon will be overpaid next year. losing that really isn't a loss

DeRozan m8
03-27-2017, 04:03 AM
Always hated Lou...though i'd approve of almost anything to get rid of Fathead tbh

Austin_Toros
03-27-2017, 04:42 AM
Would have loved if Spurs got Lou Williams. Really would have helped upgrade our guards.

TheGreatYacht
03-27-2017, 05:17 AM
Per-36, averaging 26.6/3.4/4.5 on 60.4TS% :wow

Meanwhile our SG rotation consists of a shooter who can't shoot and gets torched by every guard until Kawhi decides to take his guy in the 4th quarter, and a 39yr old that still thinks he's the guy and makes FT's when he wants to miss and misses when he wants to make them.

mookie2001
03-27-2017, 09:54 AM
And why did we ever get rid of Paul George?

kaji157
03-27-2017, 10:34 AM
The Spurs never had a real shot at him.
End of story.
Fantasy league managers need to stop posting things without serious evaluations of the situation.

$pursDynasty
03-27-2017, 11:37 AM
kaji why would you contend they had no shot. The Lakers wanted to lose period, they would take what they could get but were under no circumstances keeping Lou who would possible mean an extra win or 6 before season's end. The Rox didn't break the bank with compensation for him, nothing that the Spurs couldn't have matched or exceeded if they wanted to.

kaji157
03-27-2017, 12:31 PM
kaji why would you contend they had no shot. The Lakers wanted to lose period, they would take what they could get but were under no circumstances keeping Lou who would possible mean an extra win or 6 before season's end. The Rox didn't break the bank with compensation for him, nothing that the Spurs couldn't have matched or exceeded if they wanted to.

Because, first, we had a shittier first round pick by maybe 4 spots, second we didn't have a player making around 7m that was expendable, and third, had our combination of players include Simmons, mills and Anderson, they represent something without value for futures trades, while the Lakers targeted a (next year) expiring contract that can be used along a pick or a rookie contract to trade for an upgrade.
The spurs would have offered a package of two expiring contracts now that the Lakers would not use in a trade, and a player with no value in Anderson.
And as said before, a shittier pick.

Proxy
03-27-2017, 12:44 PM
I wish he had found a way to trade for the pick to get Kawhi without trading Paul George. We all wish for things.

TheGreatYacht
03-27-2017, 01:03 PM
Because, first, we had a shittier first round pick by maybe 4 spots, second we didn't have a player making around 7m that was expendable, and third, had our combination of players include Simmons, mills and Anderson, they represent something without value for futures trades, while the Lakers targeted a (next year) expiring contract that can be used along a pick or a rookie contract to trade for an upgrade.
The spurs would have offered a package of two expiring contracts now that the Lakers would not use in a trade, and a player with no value in Anderson.
And as said before, a shittier pick.
What? The rockets pick is the 28th, we're 29th.

Our second unit would've been set for at least 2 years with Gasol, Bertans, Williams, Parker/Murray, and Manu if he comes back.

Spurs could lose Mills, Simmons, and Manu all in one offseason. Good luck trying to be taken serious with Fathead being your 6th man

kaji157
03-27-2017, 03:29 PM
What? The rockets pick is the 28th, we're 29th.

Our second unit would've been set for at least 2 years with Gasol, Bertans, Williams, Parker/Murray, and Manu if he comes back.

Spurs could lose Mills, Simmons, and Manu all in one offseason. Good luck trying to be taken serious with Fathead being your 6th man

Sorry, you are correct, the difference in pick is only one spot.

Still the package we could offer was worse than the Rox, the only chance would have been to introduce a 3rd team interested in Mills to give something better to LA.

Mills and Simmons had no value to them as they didnīt want productive players in return, nor small expiring contracts.
Brewer two years left, expiring next season, was more usefull to LA than any of our packages, thatīs really my point.
They wouldnīt want to resign Mills, nor Simmons, and Anderson wasnīt usefull to them.

SAGirl
03-27-2017, 03:38 PM
Because, first, we had a shittier first round pick by maybe 4 spots, second we didn't have a player making around 7m that was expendable, and third, had our combination of players include Simmons, mills and Anderson, they represent something without value for futures trades, while the Lakers targeted a (next year) expiring contract that can be used along a pick or a rookie contract to trade for an upgrade.
The spurs would have offered a package of two expiring contracts now that the Lakers would not use in a trade, and a player with no value in Anderson.
And as said before, a shittier pick.
+100

In all the thread SpursDynasty and others ignore that the prize in that trade was the 1st round pick in a deep draft... plus the expiring contract.

Plus maybe he and others undervalue Mills. If he were up for trade he would have been traded by now for sure. He's likely not up for trade.

Then he throws in another player just bc he has to mach salaries somehow.

His trade would have the Spurs giving up 2 rotation caliber players, one of which is closing games out for Pop, plus a 1st round pick. That is too much for Lou. Heck that is similar to a package that netted better players than Lou.

Still if the Spurs wanted him they could have gotten him, but he wasn't going to come without cost. One has to think Pop is not trading Mills. If they wanted to trade him they could have and they possibly value 1st round picks at this point as one of a few building blocks for a deep roster on the cheap.

DocDoc
03-27-2017, 06:48 PM
I know Yacht is trolling.

Once teams had some film of him with the Rockets, teams figured him out.

In March, he is scoring 12.8 ppg on 38.7% shooting, and 35.6% from 3. Plus/Minus is 3.3.

Those numbers are slightly worse than Patty.

TheGreatYacht
03-27-2017, 07:15 PM
I know Yacht is trolling.

Once teams had some film of him with the Rockets, teams figured him out.

In March, he is scoring 12.8 ppg on 38.7% shooting, and 35.6% from 3. Plus/Minus is 3.3.

Those numbers are slightly worse than Patty.
Man, is it going to suck when you find out who our SG's are...

While that's one bad month of Lou, those are close to Manu and Danny's averages for the season (except the 13ppg is 7ppg)

TheGreatYacht
03-27-2017, 07:20 PM
Double post