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sickdsm
03-26-2017, 07:43 PM
Set up a Raspberry pi 3 with some SNES gamepads with retropie. Thing is awesome. I put like 150 games on it, i didn't want too many cluttering up the menu's. NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, TG16 so far. I've been playing around with some settings and I've got the N64 working respectable so far. planning on overclocking it just a bit to smooth it out some more. I missed the era of N64, there was a lot of fun games on there. TBH most of the NES games are a 15 minute experience. I bought a lego case for it and my boys built some minion set for it. Lot of fun for us.

baseline bum
03-26-2017, 09:04 PM
Set up a Raspberry pi 3 with some SNES gamepads with retropie. Thing is awesome. I put like 150 games on it, i didn't want too many cluttering up the menu's. NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, TG16 so far. I've been playing around with some settings and I've got the N64 working respectable so far. planning on overclocking it just a bit to smooth it out some more. I missed the era of N64, there was a lot of fun games on there. TBH most of the NES games are a 15 minute experience. I bought a lego case for it and my boys built some minion set for it. Lot of fun for us.

I was going to build one of these, but then I just decided to connect my gaming PC to the TV so I can play GTA V and Dark Souls on a bigscreen, so I just use the PC emulators. Only takes up about 350 times the space the Pi 3 does :lol (next PC build I'm definitely going mini ITX). DarrinS had a thread here about RetroPIE a year or two ago, I know he built one of these too.

Man you gotta get MAME on that system. That plays every great arcade game I can think of from the 80s-90s: Galaga, Zaxxon, Pole Position, Double Dragon, Kung Fu Master, Shinobi, Gauntlet, Golden Axe, TMNT, UN Squadron, NBA Jam, Street Fighter 2, etc.

sickdsm
03-27-2017, 06:17 PM
I never played hardly any arcade games. Too poor. Obviosly some of those games i have on the console part but is there a huge difference between golden axe genesis vs mame?

baseline bum
03-27-2017, 07:20 PM
I never played hardly any arcade games. Too poor. Obviosly some of those games i have on the console part but is there a huge difference between golden axe genesis vs mame?

They're pretty similar. The graphics are a little better on the arcade than the Genesis. The sound should be much better on the arcade though. I remember Genesis not being great when it came to sound. Shinobi is night and day better on arcade than Master System, and Double Dragon is a completely different (and better in every way) game on arcade vs NES.

hater
03-28-2017, 02:47 PM
Got a few pies

Yeah the retro pi is pretty cool. You can take it on the road and shit

Got a few other pies doing shit like playing music, reading news, weather , etc

Another vpn router pi

And now building a Tor gateway pi. Since Uncle sam decided to sell my info I say fuck it Im going Dark

DJR210
04-05-2017, 04:38 PM
Emulators installed to a Fire Stick and a bluetooth controller FTW

baseline bum
04-05-2017, 06:17 PM
Emulators installed to a Fire Stick and a bluetooth controller FTW

You talking about the XBone controller?

DJR210
04-05-2017, 07:54 PM
You talking about the XBone controller?

Nah, I have an app at the moment

Heath Ledger
04-09-2017, 07:05 AM
nvidia shield tv emulators and roms ftw fuck the fire stick....

DJR210
04-10-2017, 08:42 AM
39.99 > 199.99

LaMarcus Bryant
04-24-2017, 11:39 AM
Gonna build one soon with a pi 3. Sounds too awesome not to.

DarrinS
04-24-2017, 05:12 PM
N64 emulation on RPi 2 is sketchy as hell. The RPi 3 should work.

There are a lot of good emulators for Android. So, the cheapo Fire tablet makes a good portable console (battery life sucks tho).

ColinB
04-24-2017, 08:31 PM
Anyone have suggestions for a good build for this?

NASpurs
04-24-2017, 10:04 PM
Anyone have suggestions for a good build for this?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/how-to-build-your-own-nes-classic-from-a-rasberry-pi/

Probably check out the kits on Amazon linked on that site if you want a case, HDMI cable and power adapter. You also need a Micro SD card if you don't have one laying around. Then format the card on your comp with the utility on that site which also installs RetroPie.

sickdsm
04-27-2017, 10:23 PM
N64 still sketch on pi3. I have mine overclocked, doesn't make much of a differnce. MarioKart plays perfect so i got that going for me.

Since i've last talked to you guys I've discovered how awesome MAME is, plan on building either a bartop or more likely just the joystick box, two player with trackball and ports and controllers in compartments for players 3 and 4. Portable as hell, just hook up to power and tv.

Probaly plan on switching to HyperPi with an external HD at some point. Can't wait to golden tee it up. My kids love the retro arcade games since they can just toss another credit on there. Took them about $40 to beat metal slug.


Firestick blows ass for gaming. I tried a few years ago on a stick and abox. I used a generic android BT controller then borrowed an Amazon Fire controller. Laggy as all hell. I should have just bought a wired usb then for the fire tv but i didn't know any better. No way to hardwire anything to stick means no thank you.

baseline bum
04-27-2017, 11:50 PM
Do the Pi 2 / Pi 3 emulate PS1 well? Man I remember there being really good PS1 emulators as far back as like 20 years ago. I could swear I have been playing MAME since 2000 or so also.

Chucho
04-28-2017, 12:20 AM
Do the Pi 2 / Pi 3 emulate PS1 well? Man I remember there being really good PS1 emulators as far back as like 20 years ago. I could swear I have been playing MAME since 2000 or so also.

Mine's a Pi 2 Plus or whatever the stop gap model was between the 2 and 3. It emulates everything up to the 64 really well, including 99% of the PS1 games I have on cards, which is about 45 games total. MGS runs pretty much flawless and I guess that and Gran Tourismo would be the best games to judge performance by.

I don't recommend it at all for the 64. 99% of all games lag, bug out to all fuck or just don't work. Haven't bothered with the Saturn one since it doesn't come stock on the retro pi firmware, and there are only like two games I would even want to bother with, Astral and maybe Panzer Dragoon.

Haven't had the time to use it a long while, but I love using the PS3 generic remotes for it, easy to get them to work wireless, but on some of my cards, the wifi adapter didn't take, but got 10 ft charge cords from Monoprice for .75 each. Overall, if you want retrogaming on your main tv, and want from the ps1 and down, you can't find a cheaper, more reliable or customizable unit for the price of a Pi 2. You can save a few more bucks going with a 1 or a B, but I hear the difference between the 1 and 2 is worth it.

baseline bum
04-28-2017, 07:08 AM
Mine's a Pi 2 Plus or whatever the stop gap model was between the 2 and 3. It emulates everything up to the 64 really well, including 99% of the PS1 games I have on cards, which is about 45 games total. MGS runs pretty much flawless and I guess that and Gran Tourismo would be the best games to judge performance by.

I don't recommend it at all for the 64. 99% of all games lag, bug out to all fuck or just don't work. Haven't bothered with the Saturn one since it doesn't come stock on the retro pi firmware, and there are only like two games I would even want to bother with, Astral and maybe Panzer Dragoon.

Haven't had the time to use it a long while, but I love using the PS3 generic remotes for it, easy to get them to work wireless, but on some of my cards, the wifi adapter didn't take, but got 10 ft charge cords from Monoprice for .75 each. Overall, if you want retrogaming on your main tv, and want from the ps1 and down, you can't find a cheaper, more reliable or customizable unit for the price of a Pi 2. You can save a few more bucks going with a 1 or a B, but I hear the difference between the 1 and 2 is worth it.

That sucks about the 64, but cool to hear everything from PS1 on down works well. Didn't Saturn just get cracked a year or so ago? I was surprised to read that system actually sold pretty well in Japan, maybe they got some good games we didn't. Because I remember Saturn being a dog in the US.

Chucho
04-28-2017, 10:40 AM
That sucks about the 64, but cool to hear everything from PS1 on down works well. Didn't Saturn just get cracked a year or so ago? I was surprised to read that system actually sold pretty well in Japan, maybe they got some good games we didn't. Because I remember Saturn being a dog in the US.

Yeah, we got our Saturn a year before the Dreamcast came out as we had already dogged out the first PS1 we had and we had already OD'd on 64 party games by that time. But yeah, the Saturn wasn't good here domestically. Crazy that if they had spent a little time making it easier for developers to use both processors, the Saturn had more power than the PS1, but it was a bitch developing on it and there was no easy way to take advantage of the two 32 bit processors in it.

DJR210
04-28-2017, 11:40 AM
Used to have to hide my Playstation when I'd leave the house, living in Indian Creek :lol

LaMarcus Bryant
04-28-2017, 11:48 AM
Can't wait to build one of these. :toast

DarrinS
04-28-2017, 03:56 PM
N64 still sketch on pi3. I have mine overclocked, doesn't make much of a differnce. MarioKart plays perfect so i got that going for me.

Since i've last talked to you guys I've discovered how awesome MAME is, plan on building either a bartop or more likely just the joystick box, two player with trackball and ports and controllers in compartments for players 3 and 4. Portable as hell, just hook up to power and tv.

Probaly plan on switching to HyperPi with an external HD at some point. Can't wait to golden tee it up. My kids love the retro arcade games since they can just toss another credit on there. Took them about $40 to beat metal slug.


Firestick blows ass for gaming. I tried a few years ago on a stick and abox. I used a generic android BT controller then borrowed an Amazon Fire controller. Laggy as all hell. I should have just bought a wired usb then for the fire tv but i didn't know any better. No way to hardwire anything to stick means no thank you.



This guy put his Rpi inside the tankstick controller. I think it might get overheated in there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN2Ravk-wvQ


I followed his other videos to configure the tankstick controller, which is a pain in the ass, btw. My plan is to eventually build a bartop arcade with it.

DarrinS
04-28-2017, 03:58 PM
That tankstick controller is awesome for playing Robotron 2084. :tu

sickdsm
04-28-2017, 11:03 PM
Didn't want to tankstick because i want to build storage compartments for players 3 and 4 gamepad, need space for pi, plus a HD, storage for long HDMI, and also power cable. My pi is overclocked so i need to keep a fan on it, thought about putting a larger fan on the whole joystick box just becuase everything will get warm.


Plus i want the LED controls.


I just discovered that NBA hangtime is more fun than Jam.

baseline bum
10-01-2017, 12:04 PM
I think I'm finally going to order one of these kits off amazon today. I was really tempted to get an SNES Classic and then I figured well the first thing I'm going to do is hack that bitch to put more games on. Then I thought well I'd like to play NES games on it too. Then I thought dumbass just make a RetroPie machine. I'll probably just buy the $50 kit on amazon with a Pi 3 model B, the two little heatsinks, power supply, and the clear cheap shell. Not sure whether I want to use an 8Bitdo SNES30 wireless controller (seems to be really nice quality) or a Wii U Pro Controller though. I like the PS3 controller but I don't want to pay $40 used for one when I can just get the Wii U Pro Controller new for $50.

DarrinS, sickdsm, Chucho

A few quick questions for you guys who have done this:

* Can you configure everything through a bunch of XML files?
* Have you gotten the Famicom Disk System up and running? I know that one you need to install a BIOS. The Japanese versions of Zelda and Metroid have much better music on FDS than on the NES.
* If so, is there an easy way to flip the disk? Famicom floppy disks are two sides and games like Doki Doki Panic require you to flip the disk (it's great, it's what the US Super Mario 2 was based on).
* Are multiple CD games a bitch for PS1? Or is there an easy way to switch discs?
* How is MAME compatibility? I know that'll probably be a bitch to setup, MAME always has been.
* There is no decent way to play Saturn, right?

I'm wanting to make one to play Atari 2600, Atari 5200, MAME, NES, Famicom, Famicom Disk System, Master System, Genesis, SNES, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, and PS1. I don't want to hook a keyboard up (except for initial config) so I probably won't worry about MSX, C64, Amiga, Atari ST, and DOS.

ElNono
10-01-2017, 05:49 PM
Since i've last talked to you guys I've discovered how awesome MAME is, plan on building either a bartop or more likely just the joystick box, two player with trackball and ports and controllers in compartments for players 3 and 4. Portable as hell, just hook up to power and tv.

mein negger

ElNono
10-01-2017, 05:52 PM
I think I'm finally going to order one of these kits off amazon today. I was really tempted to get an SNES Classic and then I figured well the first thing I'm going to do is hack that bitch to put more games on. Then I thought well I'd like to play NES games on it too. Then I thought dumbass just make a RetroPie machine. I'll probably just buy the $50 kit on amazon with a Pi 3 model B, the two little heatsinks, power supply, and the clear cheap shell. Not sure whether I want to use an 8Bitdo SNES30 wireless controller (seems to be really nice quality) or a Wii U Pro Controller though. I like the PS3 controller but I don't want to pay $40 used for one when I can just get the Wii U Pro Controller new for $50.

DarrinS, sickdsm, Chucho

A few quick questions for you guys who have done this:

* Can you configure everything through a bunch of XML files?
* Have you gotten the Famicom Disk System up and running? I know that one you need to install a BIOS. The Japanese versions of Zelda and Metroid have much better music on FDS than on the NES.
* If so, is there an easy way to flip the disk? Famicom floppy disks are two sides and games like Doki Doki Panic require you to flip the disk (it's great, it's what the US Super Mario 2 was based on).
* Are multiple CD games a bitch for PS1? Or is there an easy way to switch discs?
* How is MAME compatibility? I know that'll probably be a bitch to setup, MAME always has been.
* There is no decent way to play Saturn, right?

I'm wanting to make one to play Atari 2600, Atari 5200, MAME, NES, Famicom, Famicom Disk System, Master System, Genesis, SNES, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, and PS1. I don't want to hook a keyboard up (except for initial config) so I probably won't worry about MSX, C64, Amiga, Atari ST, and DOS.

Answers some of your questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NtOCE1jb5k

baseline bum
10-01-2017, 06:49 PM
Answers some of your questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NtOCE1jb5k

Good find man. LOL I was watching that guy's videos last night and somehow missed the FDS one. :lol

baseline bum
10-03-2017, 02:10 PM
Haven't had the time to use it a long while, but I love using the PS3 generic remotes for it, easy to get them to work wireless, but on some of my cards, the wifi adapter didn't take, but got 10 ft charge cords from Monoprice for .75 each.

Did you have to do any extra configuration to get your PS3 controller working well in wireless, or did you just have to enable the driver and that's it? I just tried it using Retropie 4.3 and the input lag is really noticeable using my Dualshock 3 in wireless mode. Like I'm missing easy jumps in Super Mario 1. It's reasonable when I connect it to the Pi wired but my 360 wireless controller is much better for input lag on the Pi. But the D-pad is so lousy on the 360 controller I'd prefer use something else (plus the 360 controller is amazing for PC gaming and I usually like to have it hooked to my computer).

Chucho
10-03-2017, 02:18 PM
Did you have to do any extra configuration to get your PS3 controller working well in wireless, or did you just have to enable the driver and that's it? I just tried it using Retropie 4.3 and the input lag is really noticeable using my Dualshock 3 in wireless mode. Like I'm missing easy jumps in Super Mario 1. It's reasonable when I connect it to the Pi wired but my 360 wireless controller is much better for input lag on the Pi. But the D-pad is so lousy on the 360 controller I'd prefer use something else (plus the 360 controller is amazing for PC gaming and I usually like to have it hooked to my computer).

I was noticing lag with wireless play and/or my configuration profiles defaulting too often. I just keep them wired to them when I hook it up for gaming.

baseline bum
10-03-2017, 02:22 PM
I was noticing lag with wireless play and/or my configuration profiles defaulting too often. I just keep them wired to them when I hook it up for gaming.

OK thanks. I could just have a crap Dualshock 3 controller too, since my system is from 2008 that I bought used from Gamestop a few months ago (and for $40 lol, that's how much they charge for just the controller used). Wired it seems about on par with my wireless 360 controller. I wonder if the bluetooth driver is just crap in Retropie.

Chucho
10-03-2017, 02:25 PM
OK thanks. I could just have a crap Dualshock 3 controller too, since my system is from 2008 that I bought used from Gamestop (and for $40 lol, that's how much they charge for just the controller used). Wired it seems about on par with my wireless 360 controller. I wonder if the bluetooth driver is just crap in Retropie.

I bought a cheapie $5 BT adapter off Amazon and it didn't jibe with the Dualshock, but it works perfect with the mini keyboard remote I use for the Pi. Go figure.

baseline bum
10-03-2017, 04:29 PM
Damn I should have built one of these the second DarrinS first posted about the Pi for a retro gaming console / HTPC. F-Zero and Super Mario World are glorious on the bigscreen and the Emulation Station interface is pretty slick on the Pi 3 (it's lousy on Windows though).

Chucho
10-03-2017, 04:48 PM
Damn I should have built one of these the second DarrinS first posted about the Pi for a retro gaming console / HTPC. F-Zero and Super Mario World are glorious on the bigscreen and the Emulation Station interface is pretty slick on the Pi 3 (it's lousy on Windows though).

FZero was the shit! I was playing Forza 5 yesterday (monthly Gold freebie) and I was like "this just doesn't do it for me, I want an NES/SNES racer."

baseline bum
10-03-2017, 11:17 PM
Damn I was going to buy a micro USB to USB cable with a power switch for this, then saw it uses 1.4W and thought who gives a shit, just run it 24/7/365. That's almost certainly less than the standby power consumption of any of my 360, PS3, PS4, Wii, PCs, monitors, TVs, etc.

baseline bum
10-03-2017, 11:21 PM
FZero was the shit! I was playing Forza 5 yesterday (monthly Gold freebie) and I was like "this just doesn't do it for me, I want an NES/SNES racer."

That soundtrack.

baseline bum
10-04-2017, 12:53 AM
Answers some of your questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NtOCE1jb5k

Turns out that guy is full of shit on flipping the disks. You have to press one button to eject the disk, another to flip, and then the first button to insert the disk. In this case eject/insert is RB by default while flipping the side of the disk is LB. So when you start the game it's on Side A. When it asks you to flip it and you press RB to eject the disk. Then LB flips the disk from Side A to Side B. Then RB inserts the disk back, now on Side B.

ElNono
10-04-2017, 01:30 AM
Turns out that guy is full of shit on flipping the disks. You have to press one button to eject the disk, another to flip, and then the first button to insert the disk. In this case eject/insert is RB by default while flipping the side of the disk is LB. So when you start the game it's on Side A. When it asks you to flip it and you press RB to eject the disk. Then LB flips the disk from Side A to Side B. Then RB inserts the disk back, now on Side B.

Never used it, so I'll take your word for it. I just found the video :P

LaMarcus Bryant
10-04-2017, 09:34 AM
So are kids going with the kits now or buying all the parts individually for better performance?

Chucho
10-04-2017, 10:28 AM
So are kids going with the kits now or buying all the parts individually for better performance?

Kits seem to be the easier route and good for newbies doing their first one. I'm going to be building a 3 in the next few months, do you know if it's possible to get it to perform well enough to play 64 titles at normal rate thru ordering parts individually?

baseline bum
10-04-2017, 10:57 AM
So are kids going with the kits now or buying all the parts individually for better performance?

I bought this kit with Pi 3 Model B, power supply, case, and heatsinks:

https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Clear-Power-Supply/dp/B01C6EQNNK/

Whatever you do, don't buy one of the kits that come with controllers, because they're cheap Chinese crap with mushy buttons supposedly. Also make sure the flash come with is class 10 if you get one with a flash (I just bought a cheap 16GB class 10 micro SD card from Walmart though). I can't recommend the PS3 controller at all though, I got horrible performance using it wireless. My XBox 360 wireless controller (you need the PC dongle for it though) is pretty good, though the D-Pad sucks. I gotta try my PS4 controller and see how that works; see if Bluetooth is the problem for input lag or if it's just the PS3 driver being crap.

baseline bum
10-04-2017, 11:05 AM
Kits seem to be the easier route and good for newbies doing their first one. I'm going to be building a 3 in the next few months, do you know if it's possible to get it to perform well enough to play 64 titles at normal rate thru ordering parts individually?

If you lower resolution you can drive better performance in a lot of games, but N64 still seems like a mess from what I have read. It looks like there are some games like Conker's Bad Fur Day that you just can't run worth a shit on the Pi 3. The N64 emulator is supposed to be pretty bad on it. I'll install some N64 games and PSX games and report back later with my thoughts. I hope there is some way to play MAME without needing a keyboard to press ESC to kill the emulator when you want to go back to Emulation Station though. I really don't want to put a keyboard on my Pi, especially since it's easier to use Putty to SSH into the machine to modify the XML files for configuration (eg for games that Emulation Station can't scrape, for example).

So far I'm really loving this thing though. Being able to play NES, Famicom Disk System, SNES, Super Famicom, Genesis, and Master System games on one machine through a nice console interface is awesome. I gotta find how to change that stupid Mega Drive icon to Genesis though. :lol

Chucho
10-04-2017, 11:34 AM
If you lower resolution you can drive better performance in a lot of games, but N64 still seems like a mess from what I have read. It looks like there are some games like Conker's Bad Fur Day that you just can't run worth a shit on the Pi 3. The N64 emulator is supposed to be pretty bad on it. I'll install some N64 games and PSX games and report back later with my thoughts. I hope there is some way to play MAME without needing a keyboard to press ESC to kill the emulator when you want to go back to Emulation Station though. I really don't want to put a keyboard on my Pi, especially since it's easier to use Putty to SSH into the machine to modify the XML files for configuration (eg for games that Emulation Station can't scrape, for example).

So far I'm really loving this thing though. Being able to play NES, Famicom Disk System, SNES, Super Famicom, Genesis, and Master System games on one machine through a nice console interface is awesome. I gotta find how to change that stupid Mega Drive icon to Genesis though. :lol


PS1 games run great on the Pi. Couldn't get Mario Kart 64 so had to work with Crash Team Racing, which is OK. I just really, really want to play the N64 wrestling games. 20 years later and still not a more fun wrestling game since...

baseline bum
10-04-2017, 04:50 PM
PS1 games run great on the Pi. Couldn't get Mario Kart 64 so had to work with Crash Team Racing, which is OK. I just really, really want to play the N64 wrestling games. 20 years later and still not a more fun wrestling game since...

So far my scorecard for N64 on the Pi 3 with no tweaking yet goes:

Kobe Bryant's NBA Courtside - crashed in title screen
Mario 64 - Mostly decent but with drops in the low 20s fps, but then crashed
Mario Kart 64 - Plays pretty well so far. I'll drop the resolution later to get the performance to a locked 30 fps, but it's pretty good. Very playable so far.
NFL Blitz - my rom didn't work
NFL Blitz 2001 - A 5 fps slideshow, completely unplayable
Zelda Ocarina of Time - Looks like a pretty steady 20 fps (which is what the original ran at)

LaMarcus Bryant
10-05-2017, 08:20 AM
I bought this kit with Pi 3 Model B, power supply, case, and heatsinks:

https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Clear-Power-Supply/dp/B01C6EQNNK/

Whatever you do, don't buy one of the kits that come with controllers, because they're cheap Chinese crap with mushy buttons supposedly. Also make sure the flash come with is class 10 if you get one with a flash (I just bought a cheap 16GB class 10 micro SD card from Walmart though). I can't recommend the PS3 controller at all though, I got horrible performance using it wireless. My XBox 360 wireless controller (you need the PC dongle for it though) is pretty good, though the D-Pad sucks. I gotta try my PS4 controller and see how that works; see if Bluetooth is the problem for input lag or if it's just the PS3 driver being crap.

What about even older controllers? would rather use an older controller if it's smoother than a newer if it's clunkier

sickdsm
10-05-2017, 11:48 PM
I haven't tinkered with mine lately, i have plans for either a portable or i did some bartering for a tankstick. I have like 4 or 5 128gb cards laying around with different images. One has a copy of Rey's image. I highly recommend either something like that or madlittlepixel 128gb image just to see which games are cool as hell. I have one that i'm setting up for my own. its more of novelty to say you have virtualboy games installed, i just wanted less clutter. I got sidetracked putting retroarch and a bunch of games on my chromebook for my kids.

I HIGHLY recommend dling the roms for tecmo bowl, rbi baseball etc... They are updated every year with rosters and also some neat features. Ive used hyperpie for my own image. All media is preinstalled, you just drop in the roms and it has intro video's, splash screens etc. that make it a really cool arcade like experience.

There's guys sticking them into original gameboy cases, adding buttons, etc. Really tricking them out. Think the finished product sells for about $450 lots of work into it.

I only play wired. too much trouble with bluetooth. I bought some iBuffalo snes controllers that are awesome but really dig a ageneric ps3 controller too. Guys are sticking the rpi3 inside the nes controller, but can't stand the idea of having cords going to power, hdmi, etc.....

sickdsm
10-05-2017, 11:49 PM
So far my scorecard for N64 on the Pi 3 with no tweaking yet goes:

Kobe Bryant's NBA Courtside - crashed in title screen
Mario 64 - Mostly decent but with drops in the low 20s fps, but then crashed
Mario Kart 64 - Plays pretty well so far. I'll drop the resolution later to get the performance to a locked 30 fps, but it's pretty good. Very playable so far.
NFL Blitz - my rom didn't work
NFL Blitz 2001 - A 5 fps slideshow, completely unplayable
Zelda Ocarina of Time - Looks like a pretty steady 20 fps (which is what the original ran at)


Best bet is to use Ps1 ports of whatever n64 game your into. Blitz on the ps1 works flawless

sickdsm
10-05-2017, 11:51 PM
What about even older controllers? would rather use an older controller if it's smoother than a newer if it's clunkier

There's a lot of high quality controllers out there. My iBuffalo has been thrown, stomped, strangled, etc by my kids and i can't tell the difference between that and the original SNES controller.

Theres usb adaptors for original controllers but you add to the cost.

sickdsm
10-05-2017, 11:53 PM
PS1 games run great on the Pi. Couldn't get Mario Kart 64 so had to work with Crash Team Racing, which is OK. I just really, really want to play the N64 wrestling games. 20 years later and still not a more fun wrestling game since...

Mario kart 64 plays flawless. Pi3?

there was some pretty cool MAME wrestling games, can't remember what they were though

sickdsm
10-05-2017, 11:58 PM
If you lower resolution you can drive better performance in a lot of games, but N64 still seems like a mess from what I have read. It looks like there are some games like Conker's Bad Fur Day that you just can't run worth a shit on the Pi 3. The N64 emulator is supposed to be pretty bad on it. I'll install some N64 games and PSX games and report back later with my thoughts. I hope there is some way to play MAME without needing a keyboard to press ESC to kill the emulator when you want to go back to Emulation Station though. I really don't want to put a keyboard on my Pi, especially since it's easier to use Putty to SSH into the machine to modify the XML files for configuration (eg for games that Emulation Station can't scrape, for example).

So far I'm really loving this thing though. Being able to play NES, Famicom Disk System, SNES, Super Famicom, Genesis, and Master System games on one machine through a nice console interface is awesome. I gotta find how to change that stupid Mega Drive icon to Genesis though. :lol

Seems that unless your using a premade image, a keyboard is almost a neccesity because your always tinkering. The wireless ones work fairly well. You need to use a keyboard to set up the hot keys in different emulators usually start and select at the same time to back out. HIGHLY recommend using hyperpie. Its a prettier version of retropie, you don't need to scrape anything. Plus if you want you can still use the retropie setup (i do) but there will be gameplay video's instead of a picture. no scaping neccesary, which is great because the scraper doesn't work very good at all

sickdsm
10-05-2017, 11:59 PM
Damn I was going to buy a micro USB to USB cable with a power switch for this, then saw it uses 1.4W and thought who gives a shit, just run it 24/7/365. That's almost certainly less than the standby power consumption of any of my 360, PS3, PS4, Wii, PCs, monitors, TVs, etc.

You still need to shutdown via the menu. Can't just cut the power. I left mine on all the time but i had a big fan on it so that got old.

sickdsm
10-06-2017, 12:01 AM
Damn I should have built one of these the second DarrinS first posted about the Pi for a retro gaming console / HTPC. F-Zero and Super Mario World are glorious on the bigscreen and the Emulation Station interface is pretty slick on the Pi 3 (it's lousy on Windows though).

Hyperspin is what you would use on windows.

DarrinS
10-06-2017, 08:21 AM
I haven’t messed with the retropie project in a while. I have one of those tankstick controllers configured and was going to build a bartop arcade, but decided against it. The tankstick is awesome for Mame, but awkward for emulators. That thing is heavy AF, too.

Emulation on cheap android tablets is a cool project, too.

baseline bum
10-06-2017, 09:48 AM
There's a lot of high quality controllers out there. My iBuffalo has been thrown, stomped, strangled, etc by my kids and i can't tell the difference between that and the original SNES controller.

Theres usb adaptors for original controllers but you add to the cost.

I have heard that's a great controller, but have you used any wireless? Wireless is a must for me.

Chucho
10-06-2017, 09:53 AM
Mario kart 64 plays flawless. Pi3?

there was some pretty cool MAME wrestling games, can't remember what they were though

The only one I remember being fun was WWF WrestleFest, which was an early 90s title, so it still pales in comparison to the THQ/AKI N64 titles, which were easy as an Arcade game to play and as deep as a console game. So, so simple and so addicting.

baseline bum
10-06-2017, 09:56 AM
Seems that unless your using a premade image, a keyboard is almost a neccesity because your always tinkering. The wireless ones work fairly well. You need to use a keyboard to set up the hot keys in different emulators usually start and select at the same time to back out.


Can you set that up in MAME in Retropie? I thought I read that MAME absolutely requires a keyboard since you need to press ESC to exit the games. I have been using Final Burn Alpha instead since I know you can just SELECT+START to get back to the menu in it.

I usually use SSH from my computer for doing config.

sickdsm
10-06-2017, 11:42 AM
Can you set that up in MAME in Retropie? I thought I read that MAME absolutely requires a keyboard since you need to press ESC to exit the games. I have been using Final Burn Alpha instead since I know you can just SELECT+START to get back to the menu in it.

I usually use SSH from my computer for doing config.

Absolutely. Each individual emulator has to be set up however. If your using final burn alpha to run your neo geo games, you have to configure that, when you run into a different emulator for other titles, they each have to be configured. Once finalized the way you like it, a keyboard is not neccesary. I recomend a mini wireless keyboard for that but you obviously know what your doing moreso than I in that aspect.

The MAME setup is so difficult that's why i think trying out a premade image is enlightening. I can't get NBA showtime to work with sound but on the premade image it works flawlessly. It also is tedious to download romsets and trying to pick out which ones are hits without playing them or at the very least seeing the demo video in selection mode.

baseline bum
10-06-2017, 12:58 PM
Absolutely. Each individual emulator has to be set up however. If your using final burn alpha to run your neo geo games, you have to configure that, when you run into a different emulator for other titles, they each have to be configured. Once finalized the way you like it, a keyboard is not neccesary. I recomend a mini wireless keyboard for that but you obviously know what your doing moreso than I in that aspect.

The MAME setup is so difficult that's why i think trying out a premade image is enlightening. I can't get NBA showtime to work with sound but on the premade image it works flawlessly. It also is tedious to download romsets and trying to pick out which ones are hits without playing them or at the very least seeing the demo video in selection mode.

Good to hear. I love MAME's configuration options and if I can do START+SELECT to kill it (and not be forced to have a keyboard connected every time I play) I would much rather use it than Final Burn Alpha for arcade games. I like being able to do shit like configure the TMNT and Simpsons arcade to control all four characters with the same controller so I have a wall of destruction when I play those. :lol

sickdsm
10-07-2017, 12:40 AM
Good to hear. I love MAME's configuration options and if I can do START+SELECT to kill it (and not be forced to have a keyboard connected every time I play) I would much rather use it than Final Burn Alpha for arcade games. I like being able to do shit like configure the TMNT and Simpsons arcade to control all four characters with the same controller so I have a wall of destruction when I play those. :lol

So annoying that theres different versions of games like MAME simpsons Once version is four player where player one is stuck with marge but two player version you can select charactors.

baseline bum
10-07-2017, 09:17 AM
So annoying that theres different versions of games like MAME simpsons Once version is four player where player one is stuck with marge but two player version you can select charactors.

I gotta do some research on romsets. MAME4all seems to be the best arcade emulator on Retropie but so few of my roms work on it. :lol

baseline bum
10-07-2017, 10:18 PM
Man it almost seems random which arcade emulator is going to be able to play a given game well. Zaxxon only looks decent on the MAME 2000 emulator; it looks horrible on MAME 2003 and Final Burn Alpha. Ninja Baseball Batman only runs at a decent speed under MAME 2003. Shinobi's sound is awful in the MAME 2000 and 2003 romsets, so I use FBA for it. Same for TMNT. Gauntlet only has the correct sound in MAME 2000. Donkey Kong only seems to work properly in MAME 2000.

sickdsm
10-09-2017, 12:04 AM
Man it almost seems random which arcade emulator is going to be able to play a given game well. Zaxxon only looks decent on the MAME 2000 emulator; it looks horrible on MAME 2003 and Final Burn Alpha. Ninja Baseball Batman only runs at a decent speed under MAME 2003. Shinobi's sound is awful in the MAME 2000 and 2003 romsets, so I use FBA for it. Same for TMNT. Gauntlet only has the correct sound in MAME 2000. Donkey Kong only seems to work properly in MAME 2000.

kinda why i'll be trying premade images this winter again. Its a total crapshoot.

baseline bum
10-09-2017, 02:24 AM
kinda why i'll be trying premade images this winter again. Its a total crapshoot.

I can't find a good version of Pole Position I or II that works worth a crap on either of the two MAMEs or on Final Burn Alpha. The best working copy I found just turns at a 45 degree angle in whatever direction you choose. :lol

Otherwise I got most other shit working great. I can't for the life of me figure why it won't scrape for RC Pro Am 1 or 2 on NES or Out Run on any of the arcade systems though. It's not like those are obscure games. Especially when it can scrape my BS Super Famicom games fine (BS Zelda and BS F-Zero 2 are great).

ElNono
10-09-2017, 03:23 AM
I can't find a good version of Pole Position I or II that works worth a crap on either of the two MAMEs or on Final Burn Alpha. The best working copy I found just turns at a 45 degree angle in whatever direction you choose. :lol

Do you have an analog stick in your controller? IIRC, Mame will fix up digital controls at 45 degrees, but if you map an analog stick, you should have the fine tuned steering.

The game used some hardware to basically scale scanline groups to do the simulated perspective on the track, so I think it was fairly processor heavy. I wrote part of that driver, BTW.

sickdsm
10-10-2017, 10:27 PM
I can't find a good version of Pole Position I or II that works worth a crap on either of the two MAMEs or on Final Burn Alpha. The best working copy I found just turns at a 45 degree angle in whatever direction you choose. :lol

Otherwise I got most other shit working great. I can't for the life of me figure why it won't scrape for RC Pro Am 1 or 2 on NES or Out Run on any of the arcade systems though. It's not like those are obscure games. Especially when it can scrape my BS Super Famicom games fine (BS Zelda and BS F-Zero 2 are great).

Would suggest you redo your setup with motion blue or hyperpie. Its still retropie, same setup but no scraping is neccesary. splash screens, intro's etc. are all preinstalled. you just add roms and configure.

baseline bum
10-11-2017, 12:11 AM
Would suggest you redo your setup with motion blue or hyperpie. Its still retropie, same setup but no scraping is neccesary. splash screens, intro's etc. are all preinstalled. you just add roms and configure.

I like the Emulation Station interface. Hyperpie looks super busy just like Hyperspin. I don't like that interface at all with the wheel and the video in the background. Emulation Station is so much simpler and cleaner. Besides, I just finished with all the config so all my games have box art and descriptions correctly set up. Now I just want to play games on it and I only have to worry about scraping if I add something new (and if the scrape fails it's easy enough to do it manually in the gamelists xml files).

Man I have been playing this RetroPie like crazy. I can't get enough of F-Zero on SNES and I'm loving Doki Doki Panic on the Famicom Disk System.

Come to think of it, I want to put some Neo-Geo roms on like Samurai Showdown and maybe install the WonderSwan emulator too, so I guess I'm not done with config just yet. You ever check the Metal Jesus Rocks channel on youtube? He has some great recommendations for old-school games as well as buying guides if you ever want to get the original hardware.

diego
10-11-2017, 08:44 AM
I have an AIO I inherited from my sister that is lying around, I wanted to install something like retro pie on it and leave it for my kids but I haven't been able to figure out emulation station / retroarch, any recommendations for a front end that will allow the computer to boot straight in? Looked into hyperspin but it seems it's been phased out/surpassed by retroarch. I have a ton of emulators and roms already just need a way to organize them, really didn't like the retroarch interface. The AIO has windows but I can put Linux on it, I just dont know what front end is best

DarrinS
10-11-2017, 12:01 PM
Emulation Station is a front end to retroarch.

diego
10-11-2017, 06:32 PM
Yeah I cant remember that we'll because I tried to set it up almost a year ago, but I got frustrated with retro arch menus, I would hit escape to go back and it would exit the program and have to start again, and emulation station I setup the directories but I just couldn't get it to actually start an emulator though I probably shouldn't have started with a Saturn emulator.. Should I try again with the same, try hyperspin? I'd be satisfied if I could get nes/snes /mame running with one front end.

sickdsm
10-11-2017, 10:21 PM
I like the Emulation Station interface. Hyperpie looks super busy just like Hyperspin. I don't like that interface at all with the wheel and the video in the background. Emulation Station is so much simpler and cleaner. Besides, I just finished with all the config so all my games have box art and descriptions correctly set up. Now I just want to play games on it and I only have to worry about scraping if I add something new (and if the scrape fails it's easy enough to do it manually in the gamelists xml files).

Man I have been playing this RetroPie like crazy. I can't get enough of F-Zero on SNES and I'm loving Doki Doki Panic on the Famicom Disk System.

Come to think of it, I want to put some Neo-Geo roms on like Samurai Showdown and maybe install the WonderSwan emulator too, so I guess I'm not done with config just yet. You ever check the Metal Jesus Rocks channel on youtube? He has some great recommendations for old-school games as well as buying guides if you ever want to get the original hardware.


You can switch from attract mode to emulation station mode. That's what i do. no scraping nessasary but still has the intro video's, which i love. I understand what you mean about too busy though.

baseline bum
10-25-2017, 10:32 PM
Kits seem to be the easier route and good for newbies doing their first one. I'm going to be building a 3 in the next few months, do you know if it's possible to get it to perform well enough to play 64 titles at normal rate thru ordering parts individually?

Have you ever heard of the Odroid XU4? I came across this today and the N64 emulation looks promising, though it costs twice as much as a Pi 3.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J_yUKQk0dA

Chucho
10-26-2017, 01:10 AM
Have you ever heard of the Odroid XU4? I came across this today and the N64 emulation looks promising, though it costs twice as much as a Pi 3.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J_yUKQk0dA

No, but looks awesome as hell. Been running P64 on my desktop to get my fix, altho hate using a dual shock for 64 games and always having to switch layout profiles depending on the game. Might order some cheapy usb 64 mockups if I can find a small enough case to put some old Dell guts in and maybe buy a cheapy wireless keyboard n mouse so I can keep it with the entertainment center and I can hardly deal with the clutter there already.