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RandomGuy
03-27-2017, 01:58 PM
The New Yorker article outlines why you will never (voluntarily) see Trumps tax returns (his own self-leaked two page 2005 bit aside)

Basically: he is almost certainly hiding multiple felonies and dodgy tax schemes involving bribes and money laundering. Crux of the article is that he slapped his name (read, cashed a lot of checks) for a luxury hotel in the middle of an industrial port district in Azerbaijan, a project that almost certainly was a vehicle for laundering Iranian money to bypass sanctions.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

Investigative journalists are just now digging up the items, but what I have seen so far seems to be the first glimpses of actual fire, for all the smoke seen in his world-wide business interests.

You have both sanctions evasion and the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, this is likely just starters.

RandomGuy
03-27-2017, 01:59 PM
An Overview

The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act of 1977, as amended, 15 U.S.C. §§ 78dd-1, et seq. ("FCPA"), was enacted for the purpose of making it unlawful for certain classes of persons and entities to make payments to foreign government officials to assist in obtaining or retaining business. Specifically, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA prohibit the willful use of the mails or any means of instrumentality of interstate commerce corruptly in furtherance of any offer, payment, promise to pay, or authorization of the payment of money or anything of value to any person, while knowing that all or a portion of such money or thing of value will be offered, given or promised, directly or indirectly, to a foreign official to influence the foreign official in his or her official capacity, induce the foreign official to do or omit to do an act in violation of his or her lawful duty, or to secure any improper advantage in order to assist in obtaining or retaining business for or with, or directing business to, any person.

Since 1977, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA have applied to all U.S. persons and certain foreign issuers of securities. With the enactment of certain amendments in 1998, the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA now also apply to foreign firms and persons who cause, directly or through agents, an act in furtherance of such a corrupt payment to take place within the territory of the United States.

The FCPA also requires companies whose securities are listed in the United States to meet its accounting provisions. See 15 U.S.C. § 78m. These accounting provisions, which were designed to operate in tandem with the anti-bribery provisions of the FCPA, require corporations covered by the provisions to (a) make and keep books and records that accurately and fairly reflect the transactions of the corporation and (b) devise and maintain an adequate system of internal accounting controls.

Read text of the law here:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/78dd-2

boutons_deux
03-27-2017, 02:11 PM
There must be a way for IC to see real estate sales where,eg, a $2M Trump property sold for $10M to a Russian oligarch. Money laundering.

boutons_deux
03-27-2017, 02:15 PM
old news

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250910&p=8927161&viewfull=1#post8927161

CosmicCowboy
03-27-2017, 06:33 PM
RG going full boutons.

SnakeBoy
03-27-2017, 09:13 PM
RG going full boutons.

It's been that way since the election. It's just not as noticeable because he only shows up for an hour once a week or so and then he has to go back to his fetal position.

SnakeBoy
03-27-2017, 09:15 PM
Bouton's never flinched at the election, just kept talking shit as usual. Gotta give him credit for that.

spurraider21
03-27-2017, 09:15 PM
Bouton's never flinched at the election, just kept talking shit as usual. Gotta give him credit for that.Liberal ducks who posts the whole article instead of just the link

SnakeBoy
03-27-2017, 09:17 PM
Even Reck came back after a couple weeks in hiding.

I never thought RG was so fragile but he is the one who was convinced we were on the verge of permanent Democrat control so the election must have him harder. He even thought Hillary had a shot at Texas :lol

clambake
03-27-2017, 09:21 PM
Even Reck came back after a couple weeks in hiding.

I never thought RG was so fragile but he is the one who was convinced we were on the verge of permanent Democrat control so the election must have him harder. He even thought Hillary had a shot at Texas :lol

i believe he is being paid, and he will confirm it, if you ask.

mavsfan1000
03-27-2017, 09:44 PM
More fake news.

DMC
03-27-2017, 10:17 PM
"almost certainly"... :lol

Random Maddow

Chris
03-27-2017, 10:49 PM
More fake news.

Chris
03-27-2017, 10:50 PM
"almost certainly"... :lol

Random Maddow

She would be so much happier with a husband and kids. What a lustful deceitful creature she has become.

DMC
03-27-2017, 11:45 PM
She would be so much happier with a husband and kids. What a lustful deceitful creature she has become.

She? I thought it was a dude.

pgardn
03-27-2017, 11:51 PM
Bouton's never flinched at the election, just kept talking shit as usual. Gotta give him credit for that.

BigCredit is behind all this.
Can't believe the snake fell into the BigTrap.

We don't give credit For being an unflinching neanderthal idealogue.
I don't think so.

Chris
03-28-2017, 12:15 AM
She? I thought it was a dude.

:lol

spurraider21
03-28-2017, 12:27 AM
She would be so much happier with a husband and kids. What a lustful deceitful creature she has become.she'd be as happy with a husband as you would be

Reck
03-28-2017, 01:53 AM
Even Reck came back after a couple weeks in hiding.

I never thought RG was so fragile but he is the one who was convinced we were on the verge of permanent Democrat control so the election must have him harder. He even thought Hillary had a shot at Texas :lol

You're retarded. I never left.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264407&page=51&p=8787706&viewfull=1#post8787706
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264319&page=3&p=8787712&viewfull=1#post8787712
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264429&page=3&p=8787717&viewfull=1#post8787717

You can follow the trail of posts from nov 9th and onward. :lol snakeboi

Wild Cobra
03-28-2017, 02:08 AM
Random, you are outdoing yourself by posting shit and believing it from the New Yorker.

They haven't seen his tax returns, and make this bullshit up with no evidence.

The IRS sees his tax return every year and are good with it.

Wild Cobra
03-28-2017, 02:09 AM
RG going full boutons.

I'm starting to believe one is the other's sock puppet.

Reck
03-28-2017, 02:26 AM
Random, you are outdoing yourself by posting shit and believing it from the New Yorker.

They haven't seen his tax returns, and make this bullshit up with no evidence.

The IRS sees his tax return every year and are good with it.

Meh, While I think Random's article is way out there and far fetch, I do think there is always something up with his taxes. As per Trump's own admission, he gets audited almost every year. Why?

They probably find something off and he has to always pay a fine because of it then he's squared.

If would be interesting if the IRS had a public record of the people who default and who gets a penalty and such.

Wild Cobra
03-28-2017, 04:23 AM
Meh, While I think Random's article is way out there and far fetch, I do think there is always something up with his taxes. As per Trump's own admission, he gets audited almost every year. Why?

They probably find something off and he has to always pay a fine because of it then he's squared.

If would be interesting if the IRS had a public record of the people who default and who gets a penalty and such.

They might be tipped off by enemies that there is a problem, and the IRS never finds it.

Or... and this is another guess, maybe all these big players regularly get audited.

SnakeBoy
03-28-2017, 12:06 PM
You're retarded. I never left.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264407&page=51&p=8787706&viewfull=1#post8787706
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264319&page=3&p=8787712&viewfull=1#post8787712
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264429&page=3&p=8787717&viewfull=1#post8787717

You can follow the trail of posts from nov 9th and onward. :lol snakeboi

Just three posts...you're no fun.

I miss the old RG. It was fun making something up and having him do 2 days of research trying to disprove it.

boutons_deux
03-28-2017, 12:32 PM
They might be tipped off by enemies that there is a problem, and the IRS never finds it.

Or... and this is another guess, maybe all these big players regularly get audited.

being indebted to Russians by $100Ms isn't an IRS crime

hiding your inebtedness and vulnerability to blackmail as a public servant violates US law, so Trash is being sued

btw, has anybody seen the traditional US Navy/Bethesda doctors' report on PVL illegit, so-called Pres Trash's health?

DMC
03-28-2017, 01:40 PM
"If this exists then it very well could be that, and if it's that then we have a huge problem. So it's very likely we have a huge problem"

HUGE PROBLEM LIKELY

mavsfan1000
03-28-2017, 02:26 PM
being indebted to Russians by $100Ms isn't an IRS crime

hiding your inebtedness and vulnerability to blackmail as a public servant violates US law, so he's being sued
Fake news

RandomGuy
03-28-2017, 04:14 PM
RG going full boutons.

IN this particular case though, the quality of the evidence is not easily dismissed. Feel free to address the information in the article at any time.

I am still looking into the background on this.

What do you think about the location chosen for the hotel?

RandomGuy
03-28-2017, 04:18 PM
It's been that way since the election. It's just not as noticeable because he only shows up for an hour once a week or so and then he has to go back to his fetal position.

(shrugs)

You are also welcome to comment on the article in the OP.

I am not boutons, and this particular article touches on something that I have professional expertise in, i.e. auditing.

If Trump has committed felonies, and is really is more than a little corrupt, do you care? If not, why not?

Have you put the good of the Republican party over that of the country?

RandomGuy
03-28-2017, 04:21 PM
Meh, While I think Random's article is way out there and far fetch, I do think there is always something up with his taxes. As per Trump's own admission, he gets audited almost every year. Why?

They probably find something off and he has to always pay a fine because of it then he's squared.

If would be interesting if the IRS had a public record of the people who default and who gets a penalty and such.

Given the places Trump does business, this is not far fetched. From what I am given to understand, the Corrupt Practices act is applicable in this case.

RandomGuy
03-28-2017, 04:24 PM
Just three posts...you're no fun.

I miss the old RG. It was fun making something up and having him do 2 days of research trying to disprove it.

I never mind doing that, in arguing with asshats, I often end up learning something, even if only that which people are horrible critical thinkers.

It shocks me how little evidence it takes for some people to think something is true.

RandomGuy
03-28-2017, 04:27 PM
They might be tipped off by enemies that there is a problem, and the IRS never finds it.

Or... and this is another guess, maybe all these big players regularly get audited.

The problem with Trumps business is that it isn't publicly traded. Given the types of places he does business that raises a pretty substantial risk of illegal transactions. You just can't do business in Azerbaijan and not break some US law.

boutons_deux
03-28-2017, 04:34 PM
The problem with Trumps business is that it isn't publicly traded. Given the types of places he does business that raises a pretty substantial risk of illegal transactions. You just can't do business in Azerbaijan and not break some US law.

yep, so much smoke from so many sources, the fire(s) will be found

Leetonidas
03-28-2017, 06:50 PM
Pretty funny watching trumpers fail to acknowledge or defend any point and instead cry fake news and make random comments about posters without even discussing the topic or content :lmao

boutons_deux
03-28-2017, 07:51 PM
Pretty funny watching trumpers fail to acknowledge or defend any point and instead cry fake news and make random comments about posters without even discussing the topic or content :lmao

hilarious, and reflexive

attack the messengers because their messages are too strong, irrefutable

Repugs are compromised by Pootin and his mafiya

Wild Cobra
03-29-2017, 02:17 AM
The problem with Trumps business is that it isn't publicly traded. Given the types of places he does business that raises a pretty substantial risk of illegal transactions. You just can't do business in Azerbaijan and not break some US law.

You mean he might be illegally bringing Russians into the states?

Are you as concerned about illegals from Mexico?

My God.... Might

Might do this, might do that...

I assume you want a Tredstone project monitoring citizens 24/7...

Wild Cobra
03-29-2017, 02:20 AM
I'm not familiar with Azerbaijan. What the problem there?

boutons_deux
03-29-2017, 09:15 AM
I'm not familiar with Azerbaijan. What the problem there?

a totally corrupt oil state run by a dictator and his goons

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/azerbaijan/corruption-index, perfect country for corrupt Trash to do deals.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 09:40 AM
You mean he might be illegally bringing Russians into the states?

Are you as concerned about illegals from Mexico?

My God.... Might

Might do this, might do that...

I assume you want a Tredstone project monitoring citizens 24/7...

This may be one of your dumber posts.

Do you think that a president committing felonies is ok? Yes or no will do.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 09:43 AM
RG going full boutons.

This is right up my professional alley.

Basically:

Trump's hotel was used as a vehicle for money laundering Iranian Revolutionary Guard funds.

Trump likely knew about it at some level and didn't care.

Do you think that presidents should have their businesses helping Iran launder money? Yes or no.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 09:50 AM
I'm not familiar with Azerbaijan. What the problem there?

Azerbaijani President Aliyev Named Corruption's 'Person Of The Year'
http://www.rferl.org/a/azerbaijan-ilham-aliyev-corruption-person-of-the-year/24814209.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/07/how-azerbaijan-is-like-em-the-godfather-em/277717/

https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160404-azerbaijan-hidden-wealth.html

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 09:51 AM
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/62487

Cables leaked earlier by WikiLeaks have touched on another sensitive spot for US-Azerbaijani relations – Iranian business activities and suspected money laundering in Azerbaijan.

One of the published dispatches, allegedly sent in March 2009 by former US Ambassador Anne Derse, lists 12 Iranians who allegedly have wide business interests in Azerbaijan as well as links to Iran’s political elite. The dispatch names them as suspected of laundering large amounts of money in Azerbaijan and violating international sanctions against Iran.

The dispatch mentions one Iranian bank, Bank Melli, and some large Azerbaijani banks -- Bank of Baku, Xalq Bank and Royal Bank – as involved in the illicit activities. Azerbaijani Transportation Minister Ziya Mammadov, Education Minister Misir Mardanov and the chief of the president’s security service, Vagif Akhundov, are also listed as possibly cooperating with the Iranians in question.

So far, only the Bank of Baku has denied the allegations. “The Bank of Baku has nothing to do with illegal money transfers,” it declared in a November 30 statement. “All bank clients’ operations are executed in strict correspondence with Azerbaijani legislation.”

The Bank goes on to state that one of the named Iranians, Adil Sharabiani, is not a client; a second, Jamsheed "Jushkar" Mahmudoglu, is not a shareholder.

The Bank of Baku confirms, though, that the ethnic Iranian Oromi family named in the dispatch is a bank founder, and a shareholder via the Turkish holding Nab Dis Ticaret.

A senior manager at one of the largest Azerbaijani commercial banks who did not want to be named told EurasiaNet.org that the Central Bank of Azerbaijan (CBA) actually tightly monitors any possible financial operations involving Iranian money laundering. “As early as this summer, the CBA unofficially banned commercial banks from opening accounts and providing services for Iranian nationals,” the source said.

TSA
04-20-2017, 11:17 AM
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/62487

Cables leaked earlier by WikiLeaks have touched on another sensitive spot for US-Azerbaijani relations – Iranian business activities and suspected money laundering in Azerbaijan.

One of the published dispatches, allegedly sent in March 2009 by former US Ambassador Anne Derse, lists 12 Iranians who allegedly have wide business interests in Azerbaijan as well as links to Iran’s political elite. The dispatch names them as suspected of laundering large amounts of money in Azerbaijan and violating international sanctions against Iran.

The dispatch mentions one Iranian bank, Bank Melli, and some large Azerbaijani banks -- Bank of Baku, Xalq Bank and Royal Bank – as involved in the illicit activities. Azerbaijani Transportation Minister Ziya Mammadov, Education Minister Misir Mardanov and the chief of the president’s security service, Vagif Akhundov, are also listed as possibly cooperating with the Iranians in question.

So far, only the Bank of Baku has denied the allegations. “The Bank of Baku has nothing to do with illegal money transfers,” it declared in a November 30 statement. “All bank clients’ operations are executed in strict correspondence with Azerbaijani legislation.”

The Bank goes on to state that one of the named Iranians, Adil Sharabiani, is not a client; a second, Jamsheed "Jushkar" Mahmudoglu, is not a shareholder.

The Bank of Baku confirms, though, that the ethnic Iranian Oromi family named in the dispatch is a bank founder, and a shareholder via the Turkish holding Nab Dis Ticaret.

A senior manager at one of the largest Azerbaijani commercial banks who did not want to be named told EurasiaNet.org that the Central Bank of Azerbaijan (CBA) actually tightly monitors any possible financial operations involving Iranian money laundering. “As early as this summer, the CBA unofficially banned commercial banks from opening accounts and providing services for Iranian nationals,” the source said.

Your complaints today hold little weight since you sat silent during the years of the Podesta's lobbying on behalf of Azerbaijan

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Azerbaijan’s key lobbyist, the Podesta Group, is not above crossing ethical lines to try to tilt the climate on the Hill in favor of its client. In February, Maran Turner, executive director of the rights organization Freedom Now, organized a briefing to inform Capitol Hill staffers about Azerbaijan’s political prisoners. As the briefing approached, Turner says, she heard from invitees that the Podesta Group had called “every single office” to convince them not to attend. Podesta also contacted staffers of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, under whose auspices the briefing was being held, and asked them to cancel it. Though the briefing went ahead, only a few staffers ended up attending (though over a dozen had RSVP’d). Turner doesn’t know whether Podesta pressure was responsible for the poor showing, but expressed outrage that an American lobbying firm would attempt to prevent members of Congress from hearing about a foreign country’s human rights record.

But Podesta wasn’t done yet. Among the briefing’s few attendees, Turner says, was Katelyn Wohlford, an expensively-attired young woman who presented herself as a graduate student studying Azerbaijan. Her appearance immediately aroused suspicion, as the briefing was not open to the public — and though Wohlford asked no questions, she took copious notes. Afterward, Turner found Wohlford’s profile on the Podesta web site, describing her as “an associate working on the Podesta Group’s public relations and international teams.”

This version of events was confirmed by several other attendees. Wohlford did not respond to requests for comment, and a Podesta representative referred me to the Azerbaijani embassy, which also did not reply. Turner doesn’t know for sure what Wohlford did with her notes, but strongly suspects they were handed over to the Azeris. Indeed, several weeks later, Turner was told by Azerbaijan’s delegation to the United Nations in New York that they were “fully informed” about her organization and its efforts to organize the briefing. If Wohlford was indeed the source of this information, the implication is that the Podesta Group is providing details of closed congressional briefings to representatives of a dictatorial regime.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/06/11/how-azerbaijan-and-its-lobbyists-spin-congress/

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The meeting with Kerry, which reportedly had been requested by the Azeris, had taken “considerable lobbying to engineer,” as I was informed by two different sources knowledgeable about the topic.

Yet it remains unclear how the Azeri officials with their poor human rights international records could convince top diplomats of the free world to remain silent about the brutal anti-US campaign that they launched at home.

Although Aliyev’s Washington trip was related to his participation in the Nuclear Security Summit, it came in the wake of a deal signed between Azerbaijani Embassy and a leading US consultancy Podesta Group early this year.

As it was reported earlier, Podesta, which guarantees Azerbaijani government’s access to some of the most powerful people in Washington, has been receiving approximately $50,000 per month from the Azerbaijani Embassy, for its service.

Following Aliyev’s Washington trip, the Azeri Embassy rushed to sign another contract with the Podesta Group offering extra $70,000 for “additional services,” Justice Department records show.

“The Provider shall perform the Additional Services during the period commencing on April 6, 2016 and continuing through July 5, 2016,” reads the amendment.

Podesta officials had no immediate comment when contacted about this report.

The CEO of the Podesta Group is Tony Podesta, who is currently a bundler for the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, and John Podesta, the former counselor to President Barack Obama is the chairman of Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

https://medium.com/@ralakbar/azerbaijan-pays-extra-fee-to-podesta-group-following-aliyev-s-washington-trip-4261b9ab1f07

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Azerbaijan also renewed its contracted with the Podesta Group, which has represented the Azerbaijani government since 2013. (Podesta’s retainer is $45,000 per month.)
http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/politico-influence/2017/03/bgr-signs-azerbaijan-219368

boutons_deux
04-20-2017, 11:30 AM
What Podesta did was legal, declared ,transparent

Trash is a criminal money launderer and sanctions violator

TSA
04-20-2017, 11:45 AM
What Podesta did was legal, declared ,transparent

Trash is a criminal money launderer and sanctions violator

:lol defending the lobbying on behalf of one of the biggest hubs of human trafficking and human rights violations

clambake
04-20-2017, 11:57 AM
:lol defending the lobbying on behalf of one of the biggest hubs of human trafficking and human rights violations

good point. i'd like to see the collapse of everyone. lets take a look at everything.

boutons_deux
04-20-2017, 12:47 PM
...

Chucho
04-20-2017, 12:58 PM
This may be one of your dumber posts.

Do you think that a president committing felonies is ok? Yes or no will do.

He's just following the precedent set forth by the prior 6 Administrations, except he did this in his private life. He hasn't been felonious on Capital Hill...yet.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 02:51 PM
Your complaints today hold little weight since you sat silent during the years of the Podesta's lobbying on behalf of Azerbaijan


Trump president not Podesta, and you are perfectly welcome to display some honesty and answer the same question, sophist.

Do you think that a president committing felonies is ok? Yes or no will do.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 02:53 PM
He's just following the precedent set forth by the prior 6 Administrations, except he did this in his private life. He hasn't been felonious on Capital Hill...yet.

How do you know that one of his business hasn't accepted a kickback in any one of the corrupt countries in which they operate in the last 3 months?

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 02:54 PM
:lol defending the lobbying on behalf of one of the biggest hubs of human trafficking and human rights violations

:lol ignoring Trumps conflicts of interest and felonies because he's a Republican.

TSA
04-20-2017, 03:50 PM
Trump president not Podesta, and you are perfectly welcome to display some honesty and answer the same question, sophist.

Do you think that a president committing felonies is ok? Yes or no will do.

List the felonies committed and provide solid evidence.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:08 PM
Trump president not Podesta, and you are perfectly welcome to display some honesty and answer the same question, sophist.

Do you think that a president committing felonies is ok? Yes or no will do.


List the felonies committed and provide solid evidence.

... you are perfectly welcome to display some honesty and answer the same question, sophist.

Do you think that a president committing felonies is ok? Yes or no will do.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:12 PM
In 2012, after Donald Trump’s company, the Trump Organization, signed multiple contracts with the Azerbaijani developers behind the project, plans were made to transform the tower into an “ultra-luxury property.” According to a Trump Organization press release, a hotel with “expansive guest rooms” would occupy the first thirteen floors; higher stories would feature residences with “spectacular views of the city and Caspian Sea.” For an expensive hotel, the Trump Tower Baku is in an oddly unglamorous location: the underdeveloped eastern end of downtown, which is dominated by train tracks and is miles from the main business district, on the west side of the city. Across the street from the hotel is a discount shopping center; the area is filled with narrow, dingy shops and hookah bars. Other hotels nearby are low-budget options: at the AYF Palace, most rooms are forty-two dollars a night. There are no upscale restaurants or shops. Any guests of the Trump Tower Baku would likely feel marooned.

The timing of the project was also curious. By 2014, when the Trump Organization publicly announced that it was helping to turn the tower into a hotel, a construction boom in Baku had ended, and the occupancy rate for luxury hotels in the city hovered around thirty-five per cent.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:14 PM
The Trump Tower Baku originally had a construction budget of a hundred and ninety-five million dollars, but it went through multiple revisions, and the cost ended up being much higher.


It’s not clear how much money Trump made from the licensing agreement, although in his limited public filings he has reported receiving $2.8 million. (The Trump Organization shared documents that showed an additional payment of two and a half million dollars, in 2012, but declined to disclose any other payments.) Trump also had signed a contract to manage the hotel once it opened, for an undisclosed fee tied to the hotel’s performance. The Washington Post published Garten’s description of the deal, and reported that Donald Trump had “invested virtually no money in the project while selling the rights to use his name and holding the contract to manage the property.”

TSA
04-20-2017, 04:14 PM
... you are perfectly welcome to display some honesty and answer the same question, sophist.

Do you think that a president committing felonies is ok? Yes or no will do.

No.

Now list the felonies Trump committed since becoming President.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:15 PM
Ivanka Trump was the most senior Trump Organization official on the Baku project. In October, 2014, she visited the city to tour the site and offer advice. An executive at Mace, the London-based construction firm that oversaw the tower’s conversion to a hotel, met with Ivanka in Baku and New York. He told me, “She had very strong feelings, not just about the design but about the back of the hotel—landscaping, everything.” The Azerbaijani lawyer said, “Ivanka personally approved everything.” A subcontractor noted that Ivanka’s team was particular about wood panelling: it chose an expensive Macassar ebony, from Indonesia, for the ceiling of the lobby. The ballroom doors were to be made of book-matched panels of walnut. On her Web site, Ivanka posted a photograph of herself wearing a hard hat inside the half-completed hotel. A caption reads, “Ivanka has overseen the development of Trump International Hotel & Tower Baku since its inception, and she recently returned from a trip to the fascinating city in Azerbaijan to check in on the project’s progress.” (Ivanka Trump declined requests to discuss the Baku project.)

Daughter was neck deep in it too.

DMC
04-20-2017, 04:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/seh6p.gif

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:21 PM
No.

Now list the felonies Trump committed since becoming President.

Show me his tax returns, and I will be happy to.

He is committing felonies by taking kickbacks in regards to the foreign corrupt practices act.

Given some very suspicious dealings with Russian mobsters, it is more than feasible that he is violating various money laundering statutes.

This is likely in conjunction with whatever intelligence he has been passing to Russian intelligence services as part of his bargain with them.

This shit needs to be investigated.

Since you seem to be ignoring his conflicts of interest and sheer ethical failures, felonies aside:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/04/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interests/508382/

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:22 PM
No.

Now list the felonies Trump committed since becoming President.

So the timing of the felonies is relevant? Do tell. Why the distinction, sophist?

TSA
04-20-2017, 04:24 PM
Show me his tax returns, and I will be happy to.

He is committing felonies by taking kickbacks in regards to the foreign corrupt practices act.

Given some very suspicious dealings with Russian mobsters, it is more than feasible that he is violating various money laundering statutes.

This is likely in conjunction with whatever intelligence he has been passing to Russian intelligence services as part of his bargain with them.

This shit needs to be investigated.

So you've got nothing. Is djohn2oo8 your alt?

TSA
04-20-2017, 04:26 PM
So the timing of the felonies is relevant? Do tell. Why the distinction, sophist?
You asked about a President committing felonies.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:26 PM
That Property in Azerbaijan

When it comes to President Donald Trump’s constellation of foreign investments, properties, and companies, much of the attention so far has been on his business’s apparent violation of the Constitution’s Emoluments Clause, which bars officeholders from taking gifts from foreign leaders. According to numerous ethics experts, the clause takes an expansive definition of gifts, encompassing everything from a direct bribe to a foreign official’s approval of construction of a new Trump property. But some of the Trump Organization’s properties raise additional red flags due to the specific partners involved. That’s true in Indonesia, for example, where Trump’s affiliates have been involved in bribery scandals and radical Islamic nationalist parties, and Brazil, where the company pulled out of a branding agreement amid a criminal investigation of a local business partner.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:28 PM
That Property in Azerbaijan


But what makes this story unique among the dozens of ethical questions surrounding the president is the Trump Organization’s partners on the project. Ostensibly, the main developer behind the property is Anar Mammadov. He is in turn the son of Azerbaijan’s transportation minister Ziya Mammadov, who was once described in a leaked diplomatic cable as “notoriously corrupt even for Azerbaijan.” Also in on the deal, though not initially publicly disclosed, is Ziya’s brother Elton, who founded the company that currently owns the property in Baku while serving in Azerbaijan’s parliament. Then there’s the Mammadovs’ relationships with Iranian oligarchs. For years, the Mammadovs have been closely linked with the Darvishis, whose members include the head of a construction firm implicated in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard’s possibly illicit financial operations and the former leader of a company that was sanctioned by the United States for its role in Iran’s attempts to develop an arsenal of nuclear missiles. As the Mammadovs’ influence within Azerbaijan has begun to weaken in recent years, they have increased both their wealth and their mutually profitable relationship with the Darvishis, green-lighting a number of deals that will prove lucrative for both families.

Does it matter if the President helped Iran launder money to evade nuclear sanctions before he became president?

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:29 PM
That Trump Tower Penthouse

With President Trump in office and still refusing to distance himself from his businesses, every new tenant in one of his buildings creates another possibility of a conflict of interest. Such is the case with Xiao Yan Chen, who also goes by Angela Chen, a business executive who, according to documents filed with the New York City Department of Finance, purchased a $15.8 million penthouse apartment at Trump Tower in New York on February 21. Chen’s transaction is the first notable real-estate deal involving one of Trump’s properties since the election, although it should be noted that she has lived in a different unit in Trump Tower since 2004. And though Trump has officially removed himself from the board of directors of Trump Park Avenue LLC, the corporation that runs Trump Tower, he remains the company’s owner, meaning that he profits from its dealings.

Chen’s purchase represents the exact kind of entanglement that has fueled concerns that Trump’s financial interests could influence his decision-making as president. Chen is the founder and managing director of Global Alliance Associates, a consulting firm that, according to its website, “facilitates the right strategic relationships with the most prominent public and private decision makers in China.” The firm is explicit about what it sells: access. Though the page listing its partnerships is currently empty, the firm’s “affiliates” page includes a number of international organizations promoting relationships between private corporations and the governments of the United States and China, including the USA-China Chamber of Commerce, the Asia Society, and the China Institute. Notably, Global Alliance Associates also consults for the U.S. Department of Commerce and the U.S. Trade & Development Agency, meaning that Trump is accepting money from the founder and managing director of a firm that works with the U.S. government.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:34 PM
Conflicts of interest and potential for outright bribes and violations of the constitution march on, and his presidency is only 3 months old.

RandomGuy
04-20-2017, 04:38 PM
So you've got nothing. Is djohn2oo8 your alt?

If we have more than a remote reason to think the president has committed felonies now or in the past, should we be investigating those potential crimes?

Yes or no, sophist.

Chucho
04-20-2017, 04:47 PM
How do you know that one of his business hasn't accepted a kickback in any one of the corrupt countries in which they operate in the last 3 months?

I'd ask you, " how do you know?" but seeing as you post hatchet jobs from hack sources, I already know.

boutons_deux
04-20-2017, 04:47 PM
:lol defending the lobbying on behalf of one of the biggest hubs of human trafficking and human rights violations

goddam, you're stupid

Working in open as a registered lobbyist is not a crime, no matter who the client is.

Trash taking kickbacks, money laundering, violating sanctions are felonies. And it doesn't matter if he committed them after or before you assholes elected him.

TSA
04-20-2017, 05:22 PM
If we have more than a remote reason to think the president has committed felonies now or in the past, should we be investigating those potential crimes?

Yes or no, sophist.I like the red highlighting and use of italics...very boutonsesque.

Yes.

Now list the felonies committed.

TSA
04-20-2017, 05:23 PM
goddam, you're stupid

Working in open as a registered lobbyist is not a crime, no matter who the client is. Julie Anni

Trash taking kickbacks, money laundering, violating sanctions are felonies. And it doesn't matter if he committed them after or before you assholes elected him.

List the examples of kickbacks, money laundering, and sanction violations and provide solid proof for each.

spurraider21
04-20-2017, 05:31 PM
If TSA was so rigorous in his demands for good evidence when it came to pizzagate

TSA
04-20-2017, 05:36 PM
Do you ever tire of following me around and trying to equate the two? I never once claimed any of Clinton, Podesta, Alefantis etc committed any crimes. You try so hard and fail each time. You are about due to ask another stupid question in that thread so might as well get to it.

spurraider21
04-20-2017, 06:03 PM
no, you keep being inconsistent. i'll keep pointing it out.

TSA
04-20-2017, 06:15 PM
No, you're just a leg humper trying to prove a point that doesn't exist.

RandomGuy
04-25-2017, 04:32 PM
I'd ask you, " how do you know?" but seeing as you post hatchet jobs from hack sources, I already know.

To be honest:

I don't really know, and can't know for certain without going in an auditing Trumps business sub-units. I am a certified financial examiner, with 10+ years of experience in auditing and risk-focused evaluations of companies.

Doing business regularly in the kinds of corrupt countries, especially Azerbaijan, involves a huge risk of such violations.

When you aggregate that risk to an organizational level, it goes from "possible" to "likely" or better, depending on how many transactions are undertaken.

I don't really need "hack sources" when I have ten years of experience and thousands of hours in professional training in a relevant field.

RandomGuy
04-25-2017, 04:35 PM
I like the red highlighting and use of italics...very boutonsesque.

Yes.

Now list the felonies committed.

I do not know of any felonies committed. Based on available evidence, it seems more than a remote possibility, so I am asking for investigations.

We need an independent prosecutor.

Given that you have a tendency to actively ignore inconvenient questions, making them pop out on the page seems warranted.

RandomGuy
09-28-2020, 02:48 PM
RG going full boutons.

uh-huh.

RandomGuy
09-28-2020, 02:49 PM
List the felonies committed and provide solid evidence.

$750

Bogie
09-28-2020, 03:42 PM
uh-huh.

this is a pretty epic thread bump

ChumpDumper
09-28-2020, 03:47 PM
.

RandomGuy
09-29-2020, 10:24 AM
this is a pretty epic thread bump

Thanks. Gonna bookmark it. I will guess that the odds are pretty high that the title will become very relevant at some point.

TSA will have a lot harder time claiming 5D chess at that point.

RandomGuy
09-30-2020, 05:29 PM
List the felonies committed and provide solid evidence.


The material obtained by The Times does not identify the business or businesses that generated those losses. But the losses were a kind that can be claimed only when partners give up their interest in a business. And in 2009, Mr. Trump parted ways with a giant money loser: his long-failing Atlantic City casinos.

After Mr. Trump’s bondholders rebuffed his offer to buy them out, and with a third round of bankruptcy only a week away, Mr. Trump announced in February 2009 that he was quitting the board of directors.

“If I’m not going to run it, I don’t want to be involved in it,” he told The Associated Press. “I’m one of the largest developers in the world. I have a lot of cash and plenty of places I can go.”

The same day, he notified the Securities and Exchange Commission that he had “determined that his partnership interests are worthless and lack potential to regain value” and was “hereby abandoning” his stake.

The language was crucial. Mr. Trump was using the precise wording of I.R.S. rules governing the most beneficial, and perhaps aggressive, method for business owners to avoid taxes when separating from a business.

A partner who walks away from a business with nothing — what tax laws refer to as abandonment — can suddenly declare all the losses on the business that could not be used in prior years. But there are a few catches, including this: Abandonment is essentially an all-or-nothing proposition. If the I.R.S. learns that the owner received anything of value, the allowable losses are reduced to just $3,000 a year.

And Mr. Trump does appear to have received something. When the casino bankruptcy concluded, he got 5 percent of the stock in the new company. The materials reviewed by The Times do not make clear whether Mr. Trump’s refund application reflected his public declaration of abandonment. If it did, that 5 percent could place his entire refund in question.

Tax Fraud.

I think I will look up the statutes.