Cheney: Russian meddling possibly 'an act of war'

[ElNono]

Cheney: Russian meddling possibly 'an act of war'

Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that Russia’s meddling in the U.S. presidential election could be "considered an act of war.”

Cheney, who served as President George W. Bush’s No. 2, spoke about Russia at The Economic Times’ Global Business Summit on Monday.

“There’s not any argument at this stage that somehow the election of President Trump was not legitimate, but there’s no question that there was a very serious effort made by Mr. Putin and his government, his organization, to interfere in major ways with our basic, fundamental democratic processes,” he said. “In some quarters, that would be considered an act of war.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/dick-cheney-russia-2016-election-act-of-war-236556

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:lol rememba det one time when this guy shot a buddy of his?

[DMX7]

Cheney -- the ultimate hawk.

[mavsfan1000]

Fuck Cheney.

[pgardn]

The Russians have bigger problems than Cheney's mumbling meandering.
Putin is gonna have to axe some of his corrupt friends. They killed a guy who was a bit too popular.
Putin will learn he needs to protect certain corruption fighters so he appears above it all.

[Reck]

:lol Hillary's big brother.

[mavsfan1000]

We haven't had a Conservative Republican since Ronald Reagan.

[SnakeBoy]

I'm sure the Dems are glad to have Cheney on board

Democrats step up calls that Russian hack was act of war
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/325606-democrats-step-up-calls-that-russian-hack-was-act-of-war

[SnakeBoy]

We haven't had a Conservative Republican since Ronald Reagan.

Reagan is a Rhino by freedom caucus standards

[spurraider21]

We haven't had a Conservative Republican since Ronald Reagan.hindsight is 20/20 with dubya, isn't it :lol

[Wild Cobra]

Cheney: Russian meddling possibly 'an act of war'

Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that Russia’s meddling in the U.S. presidential election could be "considered an act of war.”

Cheney, who served as President George W. Bush’s No. 2, spoke about Russia at The Economic Times’ Global Business Summit on Monday.

“There’s not any argument at this stage that somehow the election of President Trump was not legitimate, but there’s no question that there was a very serious effort made by Mr. Putin and his government, his organization, to interfere in major ways with our basic, fundamental democratic processes,” he said. “In some quarters, that would be considered an act of war.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/dick-cheney-russia-2016-election-act-of-war-236556

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:lol rememba det one time when this guy shot a buddy of his?

I would like to see everything he said in full context. Not just the cherry picked snippets.

[ElNono]

I would like to see everything he said in full context. Not just the cherry picked snippets.

fake news?

[ElNono]

I'm sure the Dems are glad to have Cheney on board

Democrats step up calls that Russian hack was act of war
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/325606-democrats-step-up-calls-that-russian-hack-was-act-of-war

He should invite Shillary to some duck hunting, tbh

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC9PTsDbN1I

[Wild Cobra]

fake news?

I don't know.

I have a hard time believing Cheney would say that in the way the snippets implies.

Is there a problem with wanting to see the 100% transcript? I searched, but couldn't find it.

[Splits]

:lol rememba det one time when this guy shot a buddy of his?

In the face

[rjv]

if meddling with other nations elections is an act of war, then the U.S. has set the bar.

[Spurminator]

I would like to see everything he said in full context. Not just the cherry picked snippets.


I don't know.

I have a hard time believing Cheney would say that in the way the snippets implies.

Is there a problem with wanting to see the 100% transcript? I searched, but couldn't find it.

:lol

You can't ask for much more than complete sentences, which were quoted in the article. I have no idea what else he could have said in context that would alter the meaning of those quotes.

But here's the 20 minute speech so you can satisfy your selective skepticism.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-now/daily/see-rising-threats-to-us-its-allies-and-globalisation-dick-cheney/videoshow/57857420.cms

[boutons_deux]

C O N T E X T ! :lol

WC defending a WAR CRIMINAL

[Wild Cobra]

:lol

You can't ask for much more than complete sentences, which were quoted in the article. I have no idea what else he could have said in context that would alter the meaning of those quotes.

But here's the 20 minute speech so you can satisfy your selective skepticism.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-now/daily/see-rising-threats-to-us-its-allies-and-globalisation-dick-cheney/videoshow/57857420.cms

So the context is correct. I am surprised. However, before the 3 minute mark, he says what he says is his opinion. He makes clear he is not part of the government any more. To me, this means he has no inside knowledge.

Opinion is not fact.

[Quadzilla99]

So the context is correct. I am surprised. However, before the 3 minute mark, he says what he says is his opinion. He makes clear he is not part of the government any more. To me, this means he has no inside knowledge.

Opinion is not fact.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/

[Spurminator]

So the context is correct. I am surprised. However, before the 3 minute mark, he says what he says is his opinion. He makes clear he is not part of the government any more. To me, this means he has no inside knowledge.

Opinion is not fact.

What the hell does this even mean? It's pretty clear that he's giving an opinion about it being an "act of war" even without the context, so I'm not sure what part of his quote you're taking issue with.

[SpursforSix]

Rootin tootin
Vladimir Putin
Like my bread
but I can't eat gluten

High falootin
sniffin snootin
granny smells like
she's been pootin

going lootin
guns be shootin
things be grave
like Isaac Newton

[DMC]

In some countries speaking publicly against the government is a crime.

DMC: Speaking publicly against the government possibly "a crime".

See how dishonest media spins shit to make talking points? See how the echo chamber here on ST just parrots it like it's real?

[hater]

"Then do summin biatch!" - Vlad Vladimirovich Putin

[Spurminator]

See how the echo chamber here on ST just parrots it like it's real?

Actually, I don't see that.

I see people mocking Cheney as a deranged war hawk, I see them laughing about his propensity to shoot friends in the face, I see people noting the hypocrisy of any US official calling this kind of meddling an act of war, I see a poem of some kind, I see someone suggesting Cheney didn't mean what was quoted in the article, and I see someone responding that he did.

I'm not sure I see anyone making any comment in this thread that exclusively relies on the exact phrasing of the headline, and I certainly don't see anyone in this thread who thinks what Dick Cheney says, and whether he personally believes Russia committed an act of war, actually matters.

[DMC]

Actually, I don't see that.

I see people mocking Cheney as a deranged war hawk, I see them laughing about his propensity to shoot friends in the face, I see people noting the hypocrisy of any US official calling this kind of meddling an act of war, I see a poem of some kind, I see someone suggesting Cheney didn't mean what was quoted in the article, and I see someone responding that he did.

I'm not sure I see anyone making any comment in this thread that exclusively relies on the exact phrasing of the headline, and I certainly don't see anyone in this thread who thinks what Dick Cheney says, and whether he personally believes Russia committed an act of war, actually matters.

Spurminator: "Cheney didn't mean what was quoted in the article"

[Spurminator]

Spurminator: "Cheney didn't mean what was quoted in the article"

I specifically argued that he did mean what was quoted in the article.

[boutons_deux]

dickhead putting ideas into the heads of suggestible suckers and of course the MIC in which he is probably a stockholder

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA&t=17s


DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665): yeah but what's your stance?

[DMC]

I specifically argued that he did mean what was quoted in the article.

I was just quoting you word for word...

[DMC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA&t=17s


DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665): yeah but what's your stance?

Philo: Why is everyone so upset? You've all done well for your education levels.. No I'm not mad. Fight the aliens? I didn't say that. No I didn't say don't fight them. Sometimes people might decide to fight, other times they won't. It's not up to me.

[Spurminator]

I was just quoting you word for word...

You've made your point that the headline is misleading. You haven't made the point that anyone here is parroting it.

[DMC]

You've made your point that the headline is misleading. You haven't made the point that anyone here is parroting it.

But still, you said Cheney didn't mean what was quoted in the article.

See how that works? You try to right the ship, I give you that and yet still try to get that claim off the ground.

A: So you are for rape?
B: I didn't say that, I said I'd rather be raped than killed
A: Ok, but still, aren't you concerned that rape victims will hear you say you are for rape and protest against you or boycott you?

[pgardn]

"Then do summin biatch!" - Vlad Vladimirovich Putin

This guy exposing corruption.
When do you expect to find him dead in a dumpster.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/27/russian-opposition-leader-alexei-navalny-at-court-following-arrest

[TSA]

This guy exposing corruption.
When do you expect to find him dead in a dumpster.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/27/russian-opposition-leader-alexei-navalny-at-court-following-arrest

He's been doing this for years I don't expect him in a dumpster any time soon

[boutons_deux]

He's been doing this for years I don't expect him in a dumpster any time soon

His days are numbered. Pootin doesn't support popular opposition in the streets.

[pgardn]

He's been doing this for years I don't expect him in a dumpster any time soon

Oh yee of little faith.




Then when does Medvedev unexpectedly fall from his current position?
Someones gonna get screwed. Who be it soothsayer?

[Wild Cobra]

What the hell does this even mean? It's pretty clear that he's giving an opinion about it being an "act of war" even without the context, so I'm not sure what part of his quote you're taking issue with.

Yes, what does he really mean?

What does he really know?

There is the known-known

There is the unknown-known

There is the unknown-unknown

and there is the known-unknown.

[Spurminator]

But still, you said Cheney didn't mean what was quoted in the article.

See how that works? You try to right the ship, I give you that and yet still try to get that claim off the ground.

A: So you are for rape?
B: I didn't say that, I said I'd rather be raped than killed
A: Ok, but still, aren't you concerned that rape victims will hear you say you are for rape and protest against you or boycott you?


You've made your point that the headline is misleading. You haven't made the point that anyone here is parroting it.

[Spurminator]

Yes, what does he really mean?

What does he really know?

There is the known-known

There is the unknown-known

There is the unknown-unknown

and there is the known-unknown.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/GT9BB2Zm4VnI4/200_s.gif

[Blake]

Yes, what does he really mean?

What does he really know?

There is the known-known

There is the unknown-known

There is the unknown-unknown

and there is the known-unknown.

The known is that you're a blithering moron

[Winehole23]

Cheney: Russian meddling possibly 'an act of war'

Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that Russia’s meddling in the U.S. presidential election could be "considered an act of war.”

Cheney, who served as President George W. Bush’s No. 2, spoke about Russia at The Economic Times’ Global Business Summit on Monday.

“There’s not any argument at this stage that somehow the election of President Trump was not legitimate, but there’s no question that there was a very serious effort made by Mr. Putin and his government, his organization, to interfere in major ways with our basic, fundamental democratic processes,” he said. “In some quarters, that would be considered an act of war.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/dick-cheney-russia-2016-election-act-of-war-236556

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:lol rememba det one time when this guy shot a buddy of his?RIP

The man with a man-sized safe in his office, the grey eminence formerly referred to as the fourth branch of government.

4.5 million people died in the wars we started in west Asia and south Asia after 9/11, millions more were displaced. We're still kinda there in Iraq, Syria and the Horn of Africa --

Pioneered the pattern of post-911 extralegal, super-secret official actions against terrorism including extraordinary rendition, indefinite detention and torture; plus defense sector contracting shenanigans. Obama normalized assassination of US citizens and all the foregoing for Trump, as it turns out. Biden too.

(Obama was a Tory, a caretaker of American power, including the amplitude of the powers of his own office, which he passed on to Trump fully intact, which Biden did too.)

The chilling of speech and the compelling of loyalty stood out in the early oughts too.

Then they got fucked up in the wars, like everybody else.

[Winehole23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC9PTsDbN1I

[Winehole23]

Reagan is a Rhino by freedom caucus standards