TP is unplayable against OKC [Archive]

sasaint

03-31-2017, 10:31 PM

:lol
It is sad tbh.
If Spurs underachieve from reaching the WCF it's going to be bc of this.

Truth. "TP Is Unplayable Against (fill in the blank)." Trouble is, as you have noted, Tony not only has to play, but has to play well for the Spurs to have any chance in the playoffs.

RD2191

03-31-2017, 10:32 PM

@JMcDonald spotted Tony Parker visiting downtown OKC this afternoon...

https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-c555b59947a075a84ab6176c5943c0d4.jpg

:lol

bklynspursfan

03-31-2017, 10:34 PM

If he gets some much needed rest, maybe TP from Nov/Dec shows up for some playoff games

Arcadian

03-31-2017, 10:34 PM

:lol

Let's see how many of these topics we can make before the season ends.

FkLA

03-31-2017, 10:34 PM

@JMcDonald spotted Tony Parker visiting downtown OKC this afternoon...

https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-c555b59947a075a84ab6176c5943c0d4.jpg

:lol

FkLA

03-31-2017, 10:37 PM

If he gets some much needed rest, maybe TP from Nov/Dec shows up for some playoff games

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/uF9MjJo3QIaijySXC4iL_Confused%20Christian%20Bale.g if

Much needed rest? Is he wearing himself putting up those 0 point performances?

gambit1990

03-31-2017, 10:38 PM

If he gets some much needed rest, maybe TP from Nov/Dec shows up for some playoff games
he's not going to get better, he's going to get older.

all he should be doing is practicing his 3.

baseline bum

03-31-2017, 10:40 PM

Are we going to have 29 of these threads? Too bad the trade deadline has passed, would have been nice to trade him to Cleveland for Jefferson.

RD2191

03-31-2017, 10:40 PM

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/uF9MjJo3QIaijySXC4iL_Confused%20Christian%20Bale.g if

Much needed rest? Is he wearing himself putting up those 0 point performances?

:lmao

gambit1990

03-31-2017, 10:48 PM

dpg: "tp played fine."

GB20

03-31-2017, 10:51 PM

Murray should be happy about Tony's situation. He will be starting point guard next season.

james evans

03-31-2017, 10:54 PM

If he gets some much needed rest, maybe TP from Nov/Dec shows up for some playoff games
Parker is DONE. I have no idea how you guys dont see that shit. His game was like Iverson's. It does not transitiion well into the later years and Westbrook will be the same way.

baseline bum

03-31-2017, 10:57 PM

Only six more years until he retires

Keepin' it real

03-31-2017, 10:58 PM

Truth. "TP Is Unplayable Against (fill in the blank)." Trouble is, as you have noted, Tony not only has to play, but has to play wellmformthe Spurs to have any chance in the playoffs.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/0b/0bd68d5a545328ece8df8e3fb56090888fb76f2af3e7c0733f 02871f00e7ea85.jpg

rastaspur

03-31-2017, 10:59 PM

Only six more years until he retires

:lol

If tony really believes this then he is approaching lavar ball level of self grandeur

baseline bum

03-31-2017, 11:03 PM

:lol

If tony really believes this then he is approaching lavar ball level of self grandeur

I always thought Ewing was the saddest fading star to watch, but Parker is already killing that. I can't count Snitch since The Achilles gives him a reasonable excuse.

HankChinaski

03-31-2017, 11:04 PM

Parker isn't done but he isn't going to give net positive minutes in the starting lineup come playoffs. With how the Spurs will be seeded he is going to cause problems with the lack of elite speed he has heavily relied on.

He puts the effort in to not be a traffic cone on both ends. He just can't compete against father time. . It really is something to consider him coming off the bench from now on.

At least Pop has gone with Patty closing out games.

FkLA

03-31-2017, 11:15 PM

I always thought Ewing was the saddest fading star to watch, but Parker is already killing that. I can't count Snitch since The Achilles gives him a reasonable excuse.

Wait, why are you putting him in the same class as Ewing and Kirby? And I don't even like Kirby.

Spurtacular

03-31-2017, 11:24 PM

Wait, why are you putting him in the same class as Ewing and Kirby? And I don't even like Kirby.

Why not? What did Kobe do that was so great?

bklynspursfan

03-31-2017, 11:58 PM

I always thought Ewing was the saddest fading star to watch, but Parker is already killing that. I can't count Snitch since The Achilles gives him a reasonable excuse.

Shaq was pretty sad to watch tbh

DieHardSpursFan1537

04-01-2017, 12:22 AM

Only six more years until he retires
*13

baseline bum

04-01-2017, 12:25 AM

*13

He was still a solidly above average PG in 2014, but god damn did he nosedive in 2015 and beyond.

Russ

04-01-2017, 01:19 AM

Shaq was pretty sad to watch tbh

What about Barkely?

Play Boban

04-01-2017, 01:53 AM

Truth. "TP Is Unplayable Against (fill in the blank)." Trouble is, as you have noted, Tony not only has to play, but has to play well for the Spurs to have any chance in the playoffs.
I disagree. Tony was worthless in the 2014 playoffs and the Spurs still won.

TheDoctor

04-01-2017, 02:00 AM

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/uF9MjJo3QIaijySXC4iL_Confused%20Christian%20Bale.g if

Much needed rest? Is he wearing himself putting up those 0 point performances?

LMAOOO #Legend

Play Boban

04-01-2017, 02:14 AM

Porker is unplayable against any playoff team tbh.

Play Boban

04-01-2017, 02:16 AM

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/uF9MjJo3QIaijySXC4iL_Confused%20Christian%20Bale.g if

Much needed rest? Is he wearing himself putting up those 0 point performances?
:wow

SASdynasty!

04-01-2017, 06:58 AM

Truth. "TP Is Unplayable Against (fill in the blank)." Trouble is, as you have noted, Tony not only has to play, but has to play well for the Spurs to have any chance in the playoffs.
Sad that 16 years later, we're still relying on TP to get us deep in the playoffs.

SASdynasty!

04-01-2017, 07:01 AM

The saddest part of all of it is that he still puts up more points than Mills, shoots better than Mills, and puts up more assists than anyone on the team.

Strategic

04-01-2017, 08:27 AM

It's unfortunate the team is dependent on TP. If Pop must use him then the ball needs the get out of his hands asap. Maybe it's time for KL to point guard the team. Pretty much does anyway. Tony is not effective driving the ball. Used only as a spot up shooter maybe he can help a few minutes a game.

DPG21920

04-01-2017, 10:04 AM

I missed the game unfortunately. Looks like TP & Mills crapped the bed again?

DAF86

04-01-2017, 10:20 AM

I missed the game unfortunately. Looks like TP & Mills crapped the bed again?

Nop, just TP.

DPG21920

04-01-2017, 10:22 AM

Nop, just TP.

Hmm, in looking at the box score, like in the GS game, there was very little production from either one of TP/Mills. Was Mills beasting on defense to make up for the lack of scoring/assists?

DAF86

04-01-2017, 10:25 AM

Hmm, in looking at the box score, like in the GS game, there was very little production from either one of TP/Mills. Was Mills beasting on defense to make up for the lack of scoring/assists?

Kind of fucking boxscore are you watching? Mills had 10 pts on 3/5 3pt shooting and +21.

DAF86

04-01-2017, 10:26 AM

He could dribble up the ball and get the team on its sets just fine too, tbh.

DPG21920

04-01-2017, 10:32 AM

Kind of fucking boxscore are you watching? Mills had 10 pts on 3/5 3pt shooting and +21.

Mills had 10 points and 2 assists.

TP had 8 points and 2 asssits.

Ok Mills shot 3-6 but he's supposed to be the scoring punch and better player and ultimately had 2 more points and the same measley 2 assists? Did he play great defense or something to make up for only outscoring terrible Tony by 2 points?

Then last game vs GS, Mills shot 1-4 with only 6 points 0 assists and 2 turnovers. The TP/Mills tandem hasn't been playing well against good teams the past two games from what I'm seeing.

DAF86

04-01-2017, 10:40 AM

Mills had 10 points and 2 assists.

TP had 8 points and 2 asssits.

Ok Mills shot 3-6 but he's supposed to be the scoring punch and better player and ultimately had 2 more points and the same measley 2 assists? Did he play great defense or something to make up for only outscoring terrible Tony by 2 points?

Then last game vs GS, Mills shot 1-4 with only 6 points 0 assists and 2 turnovers. The TP/Mills tandem hasn't been playing well against good teams the past two games from what I'm seeing.

Why are you arguing something you didn't watch?

10 pts on 3/6 shooting (most importantly, 3 3pointers made) what more do you want from your backup PG?

Offense ran much better with Mills in there 'cause OKC respected his shooting, there was more spacing and the ball moved much better. Mills provided exactly what he needs to provide, I would love for Patty to score 10 pts with 3 3 pointers made in everygame from here on out, tbh.

DPG21920

04-01-2017, 10:44 AM

Why are you arguing something you didn't watch?

10 pts on 3/6 shooting (most importantly, 3 3pointers made) what more do you want from your backup PG?

Offense ran much better with Mills in there 'cause OKC respected his shooting, there was more spacing and the ball moved much better. Mills provided exactly what he needs to provide, I would love for Patty to score 10 pts with 3 3 pointers made in everygame from here on out, tbh.

Interesting. You would love for someone who is supposedly really good to score 2 more points than someone who is supposedly the worst PG in the league? That's interesting.

Also interesting how you cite +/- but vs GS "TP is unplayable" with his -7, but Mills with his -7 and terrible box score is just fine?

Interesting.

DAF86

04-01-2017, 10:57 AM

Interesting. You would love for someone who is supposedly really good to score 2 more points than someone who is supposedly the worst PG in the league? That's interesting.

Also interesting how you cite +/- but vs GS "TP is unplayable" with his -7, but Mills with his -7 and terrible box score is just fine?

Interesting.

I want to believe you are trolling 'cause if not the character ate you alive son. You shouldn't need to watch the game to realize how 10pts on 3/6 shooting is much better than 8pts on 4-11 shooting.

Only reason Patty scored just 2 more pts than Tony is 'cause he took 5 less shots, mainly because OKC wasn't leaving him all alone like they did with Tony.

Patty scored 10 pts and took only 6 shots 'cause he didn't need to shoot more, he played his role, hit his shots, gave his teammates room to operate and allowed for the offense to run smoothly.

DPG21920

04-01-2017, 11:01 AM

I want to believe you are trolling 'cause if not the character ate you alive son. You shouldn't need to watch the game to realize how 10pts on 3/6 shooting is much better than 8pts on 4-11 shooting.

Only reason Patty scored just 2 more pts than Tony is 'cause he took 5 less shots, mainly because OKC wasn't leaving him all alone like they did with Tony.

Patty scored 10 pts and took only 6 shots 'cause he didn't need to shoot more, he played his role, hit his shots, gave his teammates room to operate and allowed for the offense to run smoothly.

Sure, but like you said he's a back up PG. So he was playing vs back ups a lot. Should score more than the worst PG having to face an MVP PG like Westbrook.

Also, you ignored the +/- argument. So is TP not playable vs GS or OKC and Mills is playable vs OKC and not GS?

DAF86

04-01-2017, 11:07 AM

Sure, but like you said he's a back up PG. So he was playing vs back ups a lot. Should score more than the worst PG having to face an MVP PG like Westbrook.

Also, you ignored the +/- argument. So is TP not playable vs GS or OKC and Mills is playable vs OKC and not GS?

What part of "he didn't score more 'cause he didn't need to" you didn't get? He took the shots he needed to take and did a pretty damn good job at hitting those. You sound like kobefan asking for raw scoring totals.

The one that needed to score more was TP 'cause OKC dared him to beat them and he could only muster 8 pts on 11 shots.

I never mentioned +/- on my "Tony is unplayable against GS" thread. I only talked about the game. Tony can't guard anybody on the Warriors and he doesn't provide anything on O either. Patty can't defend anybody on GS either, but he can at least hit a couple of threes on the other end to keep up with GS.

Canyonero

04-01-2017, 11:24 AM

Next is "TP is unplayable against Utah"

Mikeanaro

04-01-2017, 12:19 PM

Interesting. You would love for someone who is supposedly really good to score 2 more points than someone who is supposedly the worst PG in the league? That's interesting.

Also interesting how you cite +/- but vs GS "TP is unplayable" with his -7, but Mills with his -7 and terrible box score is just fine?

Interesting.
I dont know what game are you talking about, Patty was great last night had +21 and the ball movement was all around, when TP played he was gassed and dribbling to deflate the ball, made some horrible decisions and in 2 consecutive plays he cost us 4 points.
You can make 28 points like Kawhi moving the ball, or you can make 32 points ala Harden/Westbrook playing iso monkeyball, there is a difference.

gambit1990

04-01-2017, 12:31 PM

dpg trying to spin a game he didn't watch :lol

SASdynasty!

04-01-2017, 03:59 PM

Parker's not the one who averaged 4/2 on 42% last year in the playoffs against OKC. That was our other "point guard."

dabom

04-01-2017, 04:01 PM

dpg trying to spin a game he didn't watch :lol

Pathetic. :lol

hater

04-01-2017, 04:33 PM

Head of da snake played decent vs OKc hes obviously saving himself for the playoffs

Hes probably bored of the regular season tbqh

Patty on the other hand is priming himself to suck on the playoffs like ususal

Hopefully Murray gets halthy soon

ElNono

04-01-2017, 04:56 PM

Head of da snake played decent vs OKc

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/5c597eb60b/uF9MjJo3QIaijySXC4iL_Confused%20Christian%20Bale.g if

hater

04-01-2017, 05:55 PM

Hes still the best PG we got in the team tbh

Fatty Shits cant play vs Starting material

And murray is too green

Ed Helicopter Jones

04-01-2017, 06:12 PM

I don't know the details of his contract next year, but perhaps some team would pick up his last season in a trade to get an expiring deal. It would be an unceremonious end to TP's career in SA, but heck, Sean got traded, Ice spent his last year in a Bulls uniform, Bruce was let go when he thought he could still play. Even Matt Bonner didn't get the parade he deserved after all his amazing contributions. Tony will still be revered here once he hangs up his cleats for the last time...that won't change even if he's donned the Philadelphia red, white and blue for his final rodeo.

Tony could give one final assist to Leonard and Co.

gambit1990

04-01-2017, 06:21 PM

Head of da snake played decent vs OKc
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.png

"decent" = 36% shooting, 2 assists, 3 turnovers :lmao
let me guess, you must be mid's alt.

gambit1990

04-01-2017, 06:24 PM

I don't know the details of his contract next year, but perhaps some team would pick up his last season in a trade to get an expiring deal.
good point. with tony's contract expiring as much as he is, that should make him more appealing to other teams.

Hoops Czar

04-01-2017, 06:28 PM

good point. with tony's contract expiring as much as he is, that should make him more appealing to other teams.

Would that deal be appealing to you if the Spurs were on the receiving end? If you answer no to this question, what the hell makes you think it would be appealing to another team? How many marbles do you have left in that empty frame of yours?

gambit1990

04-01-2017, 06:31 PM

Would that deal be appealing to you if the Spurs were on the receiving end? If you answer no to this question, what the hell makes you think it would be appealing to another team?
expiring contracts are assets. you amazingly seem obviously unaware of that.

sasaint

04-01-2017, 06:33 PM

good point. with tony's contract expiring as much as he is, that should make him more appealing to other teams.

I believe that is more likely than most here on ST can bring themselves to believe. It would be a complete abdication of responsibility to the Spurs' organizations and fans for PATFO to bring back Tony "Train Wreck" Parker.

Hoops Czar

04-01-2017, 06:37 PM

expiring contracts are assets. you amazingly seem obviously unaware of that.

The Spurs refused to Amnesty Matt Bonner when they had the chance. They won't even consider salary dumping Tony Parker. Furthermore, nobody is going take Tony's contract without incentives included (ie. draft picks) The Spurs won't part with those.

gambit1990

04-01-2017, 06:42 PM

I believe that is more likely than most here on ST can bring themselves to believe. It would be a complete abdication of responsibility to the Spurs' organizations and fans for PATFO to bring back Tony "Train Wreck" Parker.
i want to agree with you. i mainly feel like the spurs won't move parker, but would love (!) to be wrong.

Furthermore, nobody is going take Tony's contract without incentives included (ie. draft picks) The Spurs won't part with those.
wrong. a team could be motivated to move a contract/clear space. all it takes is tony not wanting to play for that team and they could work out a buyout option.

gambit1990

04-01-2017, 06:46 PM

all season people have been acting like tony's contract is unmovable :lol

yeah, no... gilbert arenas got moved, joe johnson got moved. fuck off with that noise. this is on the FO.

SpursforSix

04-01-2017, 07:10 PM

Lol. You don't summon The Phoenix to battle some giant spiders. No...you wait until you face the dragon in the critical moments.

Hoops Czar

04-01-2017, 08:45 PM

wrong. a team could be motivated to move a contract/clear space. all it takes is tony not wanting to play for that team and they could work out a buyout option.

Well, you're the expert Gambit. Just explain one thing to me and please, use layman's terms, none of this technical BS I won't be able to understand. Why would a team with $15M cap space want to trade for Tony Parker just so they can buy him out?

If you're talking about a double salary dump between two teams that ends in two buyouts, what's the point? Let the existing contract expire and start fresh. Unless the Spurs have a player on their radar in the offseason that doesn't include trading away Tony so they can max out Paddy, there is no incentive to salary dump Parker. Otherwise, I cannot envision a scenario in which the Spurs wouldn't have to take on another contract, possibly of greater length that is equal to or greater than Parker's.

Even if some team wanted to do a Spurs a solid by accepting a trade for the Spur's weakest link so they could clear cap space (without incentives-very, very unlikely), Tony Parker would have to agree to the buyout and suppose he wants to get paid the $15M he's owed? It's not happening.

hater

04-01-2017, 09:06 PM

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.png

"decent" = 36% shooting, 2 assists, 3 turnovers :lmao
let me guess, you must be mid's alt.

He led us to a win

gambit1990

04-01-2017, 09:12 PM

He led us to a win
did you even watch the game? :lmao :lmao :lmao

his ass was on the bench.

hater

04-02-2017, 08:12 AM

did you even watch the game? :lmao :lmao :lmao

his ass was on the bench.

A true leader leads from anywhere

Pocho La Pantera

04-02-2017, 08:16 AM

A true leader leads from anywhere:rollin

xellos88330

04-02-2017, 09:53 AM

A true leader leads from anywhere

:lmao

kaji157

04-02-2017, 10:23 AM

I thought hater hated on everyone, not that he was blindly in love with Tony.

Maybe he got erined

hater

04-02-2017, 12:34 PM

I thought hater hated on everyone, not that he was blindly in love with Tony.

Maybe he got erined

How I am blindly in live with him? He is the best PG we got and him leadng our team is when we are at our best.

I am actually one of the purest spurs fans here

dabom

04-02-2017, 01:16 PM

A true leader leads from anywhere

Can he lead us from the couch then? :lmao

sasaint

04-02-2017, 01:31 PM

How I am blindly in live with him? He is the best PG we got and him leadng our team is when we are at our best.

I am actually one of the purest spurs fans here

When Tony was playing well, he was, indeed, our best PG, although we haven't seen that Tony but once since his return from injury. The Spurs desperately need that Tony to have much of a chance at a championship. Without a decent Tony providing solid minutes the PG rotation becomes a real muck. Patty can't play all 48 minutes, and Manu can't give +/- 25 minutes every game. Who next? Simmons? Forbes?! Rusty, raw Dijon returning from injury, himself?

SASdynasty!

04-02-2017, 01:44 PM

How I am blindly in live with him? He is the best PG we got and him leadng our team is when we are at our best.

I am actually one of the purest spurs fans here
Sign of a pure Spurs fan. Appreciating those who made this franchise what it is (and who still are, tbh)

SASdynasty!

04-02-2017, 01:48 PM

When Tony was playing well, he was, indeed, our best PG, although we haven't seen that Tony but once since his return from injury. The Spurs desperately need that Tony to have much of a chance at a championship. Without a decent Tony providing solid minutes the PG rotation becomes a real muck. Patty can't play all 48 minutes, and Manu can't give +/- 25 minutes every game. Who next? Simmons? Forbes?! Rusty, raw Dijon returning from injury, himself?
Why does it matter how young Murray is? 19-year-old Parker was dropping 17 PPG on 50% on the greatest PG defender of all time in the playoffs. At 20 he was the second option on a championship team.

Clipper Nation

04-02-2017, 01:51 PM

Can he lead us from the couch then? :lmao

They'd have to take his cell phone away first, tbh. Otherwise he'd start tweeting shit like :cry "I can't believe they're leaving @Patty_Mills wide open!" :cry and :cry "@spurs = #NotContendersAnymore!" :cry

hater

04-02-2017, 04:19 PM