The Begging: Povertyball Edition

[Clipper Nation]

The coach of Eldense, the team that canceled its season after a 12-0 loss to Barcelona B, has denied allegations of match-fixing. Instead, he says, Barcelona B were too good and they were asked to stop scoring but refused.

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/eldense-coach-barcelona-players-refused-stop-scoring-honor-code-mercy-rule-040617

:lol I don't know what's more pathetic: begging the other team to stop scoring, or being so butthurt after a loss that you cancel the rest of your season. How anyone can defend this "sport" is beyond me.

[Reck]

The fact that they even have a mercy rule is hilarious. :lol

[Robz4000]

:rollin

[Mitch]

Soccer: down big time, asks for mercy

Football: Down 3-28, comes back and wins

[Brazil]

Soccer: down big time, asks for mercy

Football: Down 3-28, comes back and wins

:lol like being down 12 in soccer is the same than down 25 in US football
:lol dumb ass

[Brazil]

Also, being so triggered than you have to look for links of a sport you hate

:lmao

Clitoris Nation

[Chris]

The coach of Eldense, the team that canceled its season after a 12-0 loss to Barcelona B, has denied allegations of match-fixing. Instead, he says, Barcelona B were too good and they were asked to stop scoring but refused.

http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/eldense-coach-barcelona-players-refused-stop-scoring-honor-code-mercy-rule-040617

:lol I don't know what's more pathetic: begging the other team to stop scoring, or being so butthurt after a loss that you cancel the rest of your season. How anyone can defend this "sport" is beyond me.

:cry But but Bartolo Colon is fat and incredibly athletic for his size :cry

[RGMCSE]

Also, being so triggered than you have to look for links of a sport you hate

:lmao

Clitoris Nation

Fatbol haters started that shit dumbass.

[apalisoc_9]

I thought this was a thread about a lardball player begging for a piece of pizza wrapped in thick burittos...

[Mitch]

:lol like being down 12 in soccer is the same than down 25 in US football
:lol dumb ass

:lol begging for mercy
:lol flopping pussies
:lol poverty sport
:lol "athletes"
:lol midgets
:lol down 12 :cry mercy :cry
:lol france
:lol islam invasion
:lol brazil
:lol favelas

[Clipper Nation]

Also, being so triggered than you have to look for links of a sport you hate

:lmao

Clitoris Nation
:cry "Stop scoring or we'll cancel our season!" :cry

:lmao Tic-tac-trot

[PingPong]

:lol:lol Spaniards :lol:lol Pau Gasoft. :lol:lol

Spain, the mother of all latin american countries, except Brazil.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:wakeup

[midnightpulp]

I thought this was a thread about a lardball player begging for a piece of pizza wrapped in thick burittos...

Could be. They like to eat.

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/AzTdWxvN7PIdcygn_kGfNwgmvx4=/1840x1220:3340x2220/1200x800/filters:focal(1840x1220:3340x2220)/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/37069678/20121122_jla_se8_715.0.jpg

[Brazil]

:cry "Stop scoring or we'll cancel our season!" :cry

:lmao Tic-tac-trot

Still googling to learn about football ? :lmao clitoris

[webshad]

:lol like being down 12 in soccer is the same than down 25 in US football
:lol dumb ass

He probably doesn't know how to divide.

[Bynumite]

Snoozeball fans grasping at straws per par.

The other day mid made a thread about the championship (English 2nd division) and now chink nation makes a thread about fucking Barcelona B. It's the equivalent to discussing the D league :lol Who gives a shit? Do you honestly think any soccer fan here cares or follows Barcelona B? 99% of those players will never see a minute of play time for Barca's 1st team.

[midnightpulp]

Snoozeball fans grasping at straws per par.

The other day mid made a thread about the championship (English 2nd division) and now chink nation makes a thread about fucking Barcelona B. It's the equivalent to discussing the D league :lol Who gives a shit? Do you honestly think any soccer fan here cares or follows Barcelona B? 99% of those players will never see a minute of play time for Barca's 1st team.

Those 0-0 ties happen in the top leagues too.

Tic-Tac-Trot fans always make threads about happenings at lower levels in baseball. Like this Tebow shit. Learn the metagame, son.

[spurraider21]

speaking of this, why is my phone giving me golf notifications from my sports app? makes no sense, about to contact the developers tbh

[Clipper Nation]

speaking of this, why is my phone giving me golf notifications from my sports app? makes no sense, about to contact the developers tbh
Because golf is a sport.

[spurraider21]

Because golf is a sport.:lol i gotta admit sometimes you can actually be funny

[midnightpulp]

:lol i gotta admit sometimes you can actually be funny

Explain why golf isn't a sport.

[DMC]

Explain why golf isn't a sport.

He didn't say it wasn't. You have to understand Philo's modus operandi. He's only going to provide passive aggressive innuendo then hide behind plausible deniability when called out.

[spurraider21]

He didn't say it wasn't. You have to understand Philo's modus operandi. He's only going to provide passive aggressive innuendo then hide behind plausible deniability when called out.
It's not a sport

[DMC]

It's not a sport

What is not a sport? Clarify the "it" part of your sentence. Basically rewrite your sentence without using ambiguous language.

[DMC]

noun
1.
an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

[midnightpulp]

noun
1.
an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

People have this dumb idea that "true" sports have to involve constant running and jumping around.

I'll say golf is exponentially more difficult than football, Spurraider's favorite sport.

[Robz4000]

:lmao of course the floptrot crew decides golf isn't a sport

[DAF86]

The fact that they even have a mercy rule is hilarious. :lol

There's no mercy rule, that's some bullshit the bitter coach came up with.

[midnightpulp]

:lmao of course the floptrot crew decides golf isn't a sport

I honestly have more respect for sports (and positions) where there's time to think (and thus choke) over sports/positions that are just "reaction." People make fun of football kickers as not being "real" football players, but from a pressure standpoint, I'd much rather play any position aside from QB than kicker. 55 yarder to win the Superbowl, into a crosswind, the whole world focused on you, and if you shank, you're forever a villain.

No thanks.

Golf is the ultimate test of that pressure concept.

":cry But they don't run around :cry"

[spurraider21]

What is not a sport? Clarify the "it" part of your sentence. Basically rewrite your sentence without using ambiguous language.
Golf isn't a sport

[midnightpulp]

Golf isn't a sport

:lol Deflecting with Philo'ing because you can't support your argument.

[DMC]

Golf isn't a sport

Wrong. It's not a subjective matter.

[DMC]

I honestly have more respect for sports (and positions) where there's time to think (and thus choke) over sports/positions that are just "reaction." People make fun of football kickers as not being "real" football players, but from a pressure standpoint, I'd much rather play any position aside from QB than kicker. 55 yarder to win the Superbowl, into a crosswind, the whole world focused on you, and if you shank, you're forever a villain.

No thanks.

Golf is the ultimate test of that pressure concept.

":cry But they don't run around :cry"
There's no defense, they don't compete against each other. There's no strategy, it's just get the ball up and down in the fewest strokes. Sure they might lay up or not, but that's not really a strategy to counter anything anyone else is doing. The only thing that would cause someone to change up their play is knowing they are coming down the stretch and someone is ahead of them, and it's a sudden death where they have to stroke it or lose. They take the risk, but in normal match play, they just play their best game that day. There are very few sports that are like that, but they do exist (gymnastics, diving, archery, skiing, swimming (basically, because no defense) etc...

[midnightpulp]

There's no defense, they don't compete against each other. There's no strategy, it's just get the ball up and down in the fewest strokes. Sure they might lay up or not, but that's not really a strategy to counter anything anyone else is doing. The only thing that would cause someone to change up their play is knowing they are coming down the stretch and someone is ahead of them, and it's a sudden death where they have to stroke it or lose. They take the risk, but in normal match play, they just play their best game that day. There are very few sports that are like that, but they do exist (gymnastics, diving, archery, skiing, swimming (basically, because no defense) etc...

Indeed. But in a sport like golf, the competition with yourself (and nature) is far more prominent than other sports, and sometimes, that inner foe is harder to defeat than an external competitor. Golf has strategy. You do need to plan how to best attack a course per your skills. It's nothing "deep," but no sports are particularly deep, even the so-called "chess on a field" of NFL football.

[spurraider21]

:lol Deflecting with Philo'ing because you can't support your argument.
And what's that argument? I think both baseball and soccer are shitty and boring sports. Soccer is a shitty and boring version of hockey. I just find the third world cup to be more tolerable than anything beisbol related

[140]

To be fair to golfers they probably burn more calories walking from hole to hole than fatball players do during an entire game

[spurraider21]

To be fair to golfers they probably burn more calories walking from hole to hole than fatball players do during an entire gameyou mean walking from hole to golf cart? imagine fatball players were carted to their spot on the field :lol

[DMC]

And what's that argument? I think both baseball and soccer are shitty and boring sports. Soccer is a shitty and boring version of hockey. I just find the third world cup to be more tolerable than anything beisbol related

How is any of that related to whether or not golf is a sport?

[midnightpulp]

you mean walking from hole to golf cart? imagine fatball players were carted to their spot on the field :lol

They do that in fatball.

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/GXXN53/oakland-raiders-running-back-michael-bush-l-and-quarterback-jamarcus-GXXN53.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao of course the floptrot crew decides golf isn't a sport
Meanwhile, floptrot is about as much of a "sport" as poker, MMGay, and e-"sports." They're in no position to decide what is and isn't a sport.

[midnightpulp]

Meanwhile, floptrot is about as much of a "sport" as poker, MMGay, and e-"sports." They're in no position to decide what is and isn't a sport.

See the latest great thing to happen in the MLB this season?

A 7 run 9th inning walk-off comeback :wow

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/mariners-vs-angels/2017/04/09/490190#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=490190

[Clipper Nation]

See the latest great thing to happen in the MLB this season?

A 7 run 9th inning walk-off comeback :wow

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/mariners-vs-angels/2017/04/09/490190#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=490190
That's nothing. The Premier League actually had a winner decided and multiple goals scored in each game for the first time ever yesterday :wow

[ambchang]

Golf is as much a sport as darts.

[spurraider21]

How is any of that related to whether or not golf is a sport?
If your definition of sports includes billiards and darts, then by all means, call golf a sport

[spurraider21]

noun
1.
an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.:lol in the ages old ST feud with soccer/baseball fans constantly referring to the other as "not a sport" you never raised this. but once i mention a hobby/activity that you are physically capable of participating in, you cite the dictionary.

[spurraider21]

you mean walking from hole to golf cart? imagine fatball players were carted to their spot on the field :lol


They do that in fatball. wrong as usual. hey, at least the pga mandates walking to the holes... props to them for taking a stand. but you have a caddy carry your shit :lol

but let me guess, you'll have some long drawn out calculations about how phil mickelson walking hole to hole is faster than randy moss sprinting or some shit

[apalisoc_9]

:lol in the ages old ST feud with soccer/baseball fans constantly referring to the other as "not a sport" you never raised this. but once i mention a hobby/activity that you are physically capable of participating in, you cite the dictionary.

Of course DMC is capable of participating in Golf. ..:lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol in the ages old ST feud with soccer/baseball fans constantly referring to the other as "not a sport" you never raised this. but once i mention a hobby/activity that you are physically capable of participating in, you cite the dictionary.
Notice that baseball and golf are both listed and soccer isn't. Really makes you think.

[unleashbaynes]

I think golf is a sport when you can do it at a high level. If you're just a hacker like me, it's more of a game where i get to drink.

[unleashbaynes]

Golf is as much a sport as darts.

I don't see any dart tournaments where the winner gets $1m+ tbh.

[Reck]

I think its funny that racing is listed first in that DMC list. I dont know in how many back and forth I've been defending racing as a sport. :lol

People have this thing where if they dont like a sport, well it must not be a sport then.

[ambchang]

I don't see any dart tournaments where the winner gets $1m+ tbh.

What does that have to do with anything being a sport?

[spurraider21]

I think its funny that racing is listed first in that DMC list. I dont know in how many back and forth I've been defending racing as a sport. :lol

People have this thing where if they dont like a sport, well it must not be a sport then.I dislike both soccer and baseball, but they're both obviously sports. I don't care for tennis, but it's a sport.

Golf enters a gray area imo, along the lines of e-sports. Both are obviously challenging, require skill and years of commitment/practice, and muscle memory.

[spurraider21]

Notice that baseball and golf are both listed and soccer isn't. Really makes you think.
Basketball and football aren't listed either

[unleashbaynes]

You're swinging a stick at a ball. Seems sporty.

[spurraider21]

You're swinging a stick at a ball. Seems sporty.
Same can be said about billiards.

:lol even pinball

[unleashbaynes]

Same can be said about billiards.

:lol even pinball

Not even close to the same

[midnightpulp]

I dislike both soccer and baseball, but they're both obviously sports. I don't care for tennis, but it's a sport.

Golf enters a gray area imo, along the lines of e-sports. Both are obviously challenging, require skill and years of commitment/practice, and muscle memory.

Then they're sports.

My simple definition of what differentiates sports from games is if physical execution is just as important as strategic/tactical execution (indeed, some sports are more purely physical [sprinting, shotput, etc] while others balance strategy/tactics with execution, like boxing. Chess is obviously a game because a player doesn't gain any kind of advantage moving his chess pieces more "athletically" than his opponent. E-Sports, as much as I hate them, are sports because if you can't physically execute mouse movements, button presses with a high degree of precision and timing, you'll always lose, no matter how good your gameplan is.


but let me guess, you'll have some long drawn out calculations about how phil mickelson walking hole to hole is faster than randy moss sprinting or some shit

Again, here comes the "running and jumping" around bias. I would say that developing a golf swing would take many, many more hours of PHYSICAL practice than developing the needed skills to be a wide receiver. Football isn't really all that demanding from an individual skill set perspective outside of the QB. We see NFL teams constantly sign "raw" athletes from track-and-field in hopes of developing them into something. Or late comers who are super athletic that play football for the first time in high school or college and become good players (Menelik Watson).

That said, I don't put e-sports on the same level of physical demand as "real" sports, but it's a sport, even though it's at the bottom of the totem pole.

[DMC]

Golf isn't a sport


I dislike both soccer and baseball, but they're both obviously sports. I don't care for tennis, but it's a sport.

Golf enters a gray area imo, along the lines of e-sports. Both are obviously challenging, require skill and years of commitment/practice, and muscle memory.

A) definitions aren't subjective so your opinion doesn't count.
B) :lol moving from "golf isn't a sport" to "golf enters a gray area".

Philo isn't a sport either.

[spurraider21]

A) definitions aren't subjective so your opinion doesn't count.
B) :lol moving from "golf isn't a sport" to "golf enters a gray area".

Philo isn't a sport either.It's clear that I don't agree with that definition. And gray area makes it arguable, and I've taken a specific side in the argument.

You're a tool.

Again, and where were you with your dictionary for the past few years where posters were calling baseball/soccer "not a sport." Perhaps you have an obsession with my posts

[DMC]

Then they're sports.

My simple definition of what differentiates sports from games is if physical execution is just as important as strategic/tactical execution (indeed, some sports are more purely physical [sprinting, shotput, etc] while others balance strategy/tactics with execution, like boxing. Chess is obviously a game because a player doesn't gain any kind of advantage moving his chess pieces more "athletically" than his opponent. E-Sports, as much as I hate them, are sports because if you can't physically execute mouse movements, button presses with a high degree of precision and timing, you'll always lose, no matter how good your gameplan is.



Again, here comes the "running and jumping" around bias. I would say that developing a golf swing would take many, many more hours of PHYSICAL practice than developing the needed skills to be a wide receiver. Football isn't really all that demanding from an individual skill set perspective outside of the QB. We see NFL teams constantly sign "raw" athletes from track-and-field in hopes of developing them into something. Or late comers who are super athletic that play football for the first time in high school or college and become good players (Menelik Watson).

That said, I don't put e-sports on the same level of physical demand as "real" sports, but it's a sport, even though it's at the bottom of the totem pole.

Of course there's a hierarchy of preferred sports for each person, however sports are sports, and there's no gradient involved in whether or not they are sports. It's like saying a basketball is more of a ball than a baseball. You might like one better, but saying "playing ball is really just playing basketball" is just senseless.

[DMC]

It's clear that I don't agree with that definition. And gray area makes it arguable, and I've taken a specific side in the argument.

A: it's not a sport
B: It could be a sport (gray area)

Clearly you've taken a side.

You disagree with Webster's dictionary. Shocking, Philo.

[spurraider21]

A) I think it's not a sport
B) I think you can make an argument otherwise. I'd just disagree with it

Tool

[DMC]

Golf
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Golf is a club and ball sport in which players use various clubs to hit balls into a series of holes on a course in as few strokes as possible.

Golf, unlike most ball games, cannot and does not utilize a standardized playing area. The game is played on a course with an arranged progression of 18 holes. Each hole on the course must contain a tee box to start from, and a putting green containing the actual hole or cup (4.25 inches in width). There are other standard forms of terrain in between, such as the fairway, rough (long grass), sand traps, and hazards (water, rocks, fescue) but each hole on a course is unique in its specific layout and arrangement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf

All that money you spent on your education wasted. tsk tsk

[spurraider21]

Yes I'm entirely aware that golf is traditionally defined as a sport. Posting more definitions isn't making any different point.

[spurraider21]

where were you with your dictionary for the past few years where posters were calling baseball/soccer "not a sport." Perhaps you have an obsession with my posts

[DMC]

Argument from motive is a fallacious argument, Philo. Choice-support bias is weighing you down.

[spurraider21]

Argument from motive is a fallacious argument, Philo. Choice-support bias is weighing you down.
It's only fallacious if I'm using that to discredit your argument. I'm not. I'm using it to demonstrate your obsession and hypocrisy in general.

You're becoming more and more like fuzzy. Sad!

[DMC]

It's only fallacious if I'm using that to discredit your argument. I'm not. I'm using it to demonstrate your obsession and hypocrisy in general.

You're becoming more and more like fuzzy. Sad!

That's a lot of yapping to say "I was wrong".

[spurraider21]

That's a lot of yapping to say "I was wrong".
No. I still don't consider golf a sport. That hasn't changed. You're just going full philo because yet again your "no stance :cry" narrative is shooting blanks.

[DMC]

No. I still don't consider golf a sport. That hasn't changed. You're just going full philo because yet again your "no stance :cry" narrative is shooting blanks.

:lol "consider"

Like it's based on opinion.

You tried to take a stance and got shut down. :lol

Back to the shadows for you, where you can launch innuendo safely.

[spurraider21]

Yes. My opinion is, in fact, based on opinion. Mind blowing revelation.

Golf isn't a sport, despite it being traditionally classified as such.

[DMC]

Yes. My opinion is, in fact, based on opinion. Mind blowing revelation.

Golf isn't a sport, despite it being traditionally classified as such.

So Philo has bucked the long accepted definition of "sport" in favor of his own?

:lol "golf isn't a sport"
:lol argues with the dictionary
:lol redefining a term to avoid being wrong
:lol argument by high redefinition