1st Rd: [3] Toronto Raptors vs [6] Milwaukee Bucks

[spursistan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9RIGajVYAAVmjG.jpg

[ElNono]

Raptors in 6

[spursistan]

Deuce : sticky the series thread please..

[apalisoc_9]

Raps in 5.
Deuce you're a POS

[spursistan]

Raptors in 6..

[spursistan]

Raps in 5.
Deuce (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3542) you're a POS
Tagged him 8 times while he was just lurking on this subforum seconds ago, and he ignored me..Sad shit :lol..

[Robz4000]

This series will be better than people expect imo. Toss-up series, but I'll go Raptors in 7.

[lefty]

Raps in 4-5

[spursistan]

East playoffs are going to be much more interesting. I could see 3 of 4 series going 7..I still don't trust Lowry/Derozan in they playoffs but I think the Raptors are upset-proof here because they have better depth this time around..

[apalisoc_9]

The bucks suck.

[StrengthAndHonor]

The bucks suck.
This.

5 games tops but most likely a sweep.

[spursistan]

* schedule posted above..

[UNT Eagles 2016]

this is going to be the series that everyone who's even a hardcore NBA fan skips to do weekend chores or go out with family tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

this is going to be the series that everyone who's even a hardcore NBA fan skips to do weekend chores or go out with family tbh.
That's only true for casuals. Giannis is appointment viewing for hardcore NBA fans.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That's only true for casuals. Giannis is appointment viewing for hardcore NBA fans.

But he's not even on the team expected to win. Nobody wants to watch boring bums like Lowry and Derozan

[pookenstein]

Toronto in a close series. 4-3

[illusioNtEk]

Bucks in 6

[Spurtacular]

This will be a fun series. I expect the Bucks to pull off "the upset".

[UNT Eagles 2016]

This will be a fun series. I expect the Bucks to pull off "the upset".

Who do the Bucks have besides G.A. who is like the "I can't shoot" version of Magic?

[Spurtacular]

Who do the Bucks have besides G.A. who is like the "I can't shoot" version of Magic?

It's not about who they have. It's about who they are and who they're playing. They have a lot of length to bother teams; and the Raptors will be content to live and die on the jump shots. And offensively, the Bucks do have some cohesion when the game is close at the end.

Bucks in 5 or 6.

[Robz4000]

God damn this is some biased commentating.

[spursistan]

It is ridiculous how long the Bucks are at every position. Raptors are struggling to get open shots over their crowding arms..

[Robz4000]

It is ridiculous how long the Bucks are at every position. Raptors are struggling to get open shots over their crowding arms..

Once teams get used to it though they're pretty easy to adjust to; the Bucks are just too young and undisciplined/dumb. Antetokounmpo and maybe Middleton are the only reasons I see this being a long series on their end (obviously Toronto is choke-prone).

[Robz4000]

If Antetokounmpo can become an above average shooter it's over for the NBA. Kid is just ridiculous.

[dabom]

Antewhatever gets like 10 feet of extra space because he probably sucks at 3. :lol

[Robz4000]

:lmao holy shit Thon Maker's forehead puts Fathead to shame

[Spurtacular]

Ref called the foul at the end of the 3rd and then let it go when nobody reacted?

[DAF86]

Damn, to think the Spurs could have drafted Brogdon.

Then again, Pop would had probably never played him anyway.

[spursistan]

This will be a long series..

Also PATFO should have taken a flier on Tony Snell. The dysfunction of the Bulls has clearly stunted his development..

[140]

Brogdon is playing great tbh

[spursistan]

Middleton is single-handedly preventing the Bucks from blowing this one open..

[Robz4000]

:lol the people who thought the Craps would win this in a quick series

[DAF86]

:lol the people who thought the Craps would win this in a quick series

All 3 of them with my nigga resistanze at the helm. :lol

[spursistan]

Once teams get used to it though they're pretty easy to adjust to; the Bucks are just too young and undisciplined/dumb. Antetokounmpo and maybe Middleton are the only reasons I see this being a long series on their end (obviously Toronto is choke-prone).

Death, taxes and that....:lol

One reason I don't want any part of Lowry on the Spurs (if he becomes available)..dude is playoff choke artist..

[140]

:lolRaps about to choke away homecourt in game 1 for like the 5th straight year?

[Robz4000]

Middleton finally hitting. Might be game.

[Robz4000]

All 3 of them with my nigga resistanze at the helm. :lol

It's like everyone forgot about their playoff woes.

[resistanze]

All 3 of them with my nigga resistanze at the helm. :lol

:lol Yup...Bucks are a scrub team, just like the Pacers were last year. Was betting on the Raptors not choking just for once playoff series.

[140]

Spear chucker seems to be the only one with some balls on that team

[dabom]

Is it a choke when they suck to begin with? :lol

[Robz4000]

:lol Yup...Bucks are a scrub team, just like the Pacers were last year. Was betting on the Raptors not choking just for once playoff series.

Antetokounmpo is much better than PG though (at least last year's version). MIL is also a much better built team, albeit they're still fatally flawed.

[DAF86]

It's like everyone forgot about their playoff woes.

Meh, I wouldn't call 3 folks "everyone", tbh. :lol Spurstalk at least seem to have got his shit right.

[Robz4000]

Spear chucker seems to be the only one with some balls on that team

Got away with two clear goaltends in the fourth before they finally called this one. Game should've been out of reach now.

[Robz4000]

Meh, I wouldn't call 3 folks "everyone", tbh. :lol Spurstalk at least seem to have got his shit right.

I meant in general. Been seeing a lot of Raps in 5 all over the net/IRL.

[Robz4000]

Toronto was the best offense in the NBA at New Years. Now they can barely score 80 against the Bucks.

[resistanze]

:lol How can you lose 9 straight game 1s?

[DAF86]

Playoffs basketball just isn't for the Raps, tbh.

[spursistan]

Playoff Lowry :lmao..

[ElNono]

ToLOLto

[Robz4000]

Really scared we might see a similar performance by the Spurs tonight.

[spursistan]

Don't care about their inexperience, that Bucks length is insane, and it's disrupting everything..In a slow-it-down, possession basketball of playoffs those arms and limbs aren't going to shrivel all of sudden..

[sasaint]

Death, taxes and that....:lol

One reason I don't want any part of Lowry on the Spurs (if he becomes available)..dude is playoff choke artist..

+1

[Robz4000]

Don't care about their inexperience, that Bucks length is insane, and it's disrupting everything..In a slow-it-down, possession basketball of playoffs those arms and limbs aren't going to shrivel all of sudden..

Toronto has had their chances though. Half the Bucks are in foul trouble and they've gotten 32 freebies; they just can't hit anything. They just choke when the games matter.

[Mal]

Toronto is so bad. I dont if this is on coaching, or those pussies are just chokers

[Robz4000]

Toronto is so bad. I dont if this is on coaching, or those pussies are just chokers

It's on everyone

[140]

:cry Jurassic park :cry

[Robz4000]

Antetokounmpo is fucking nuts.

[apalisoc_9]

6pts...:lol

[Robz4000]

:lol today's NBA

[DAF86]

T for that? Fuck that weak shit.

[sasaint]

Don't care about their inexperience, that Bucks length is insane, and it's disrupting everything..In a slow-it-down, possession basketball of playoffs those arms and limbs aren't going to shrivel all of sudden..

The Bucks length is very impressive. They are owning the Raps. Given the Raps' playoff history, I would not be surprised to see the Bucks win in 5, although I admit to not voting. Greek Freak is a matchup nightmare that ripples through an opponent's defensive lineup

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Bucks could be dark horse stay tuned

[DAF86]

I picked Raptors in 7 but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Bucks seal this shit in 6.

[Clipper Nation]

MVGiannis :worthy:

:lol Haters

[Robz4000]

I picked Raptors in 7 but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Bucks seal this shit in 6.

Same. Like I said, coin-flip series.

[spursistan]

The Bucks length is very impressive. They are owning the Raps. Given the Raps' playoff history, I would not be surprised to see the Bucks win in 5, although I admit to not voting. Greek Freak is a matchup nightmare that ripples through an opponent's defensive lineup
Look at the size on Bucks roster..they're like an average 6'8 per dude..:lol

https://i.imgur.com/QHvVAWi.jpg

[sasaint]

Bucks could be dark horse stay tuned

:tu I agree. They have a lot of talent and a lot of length. Delly gives them championship experience. With the Greek Freak, they create matchup issues on offense and defense that just ripple through an opponent's entire lineup. I could see these guys growing up right now and shocking a lot of people.

[sasaint]

Look at the size on Bucks roster..they're like an average 6'8 per dude..:lol

https://i.imgur.com/QHvVAWi.jpg

This is a championship roster soon - maybe even now. Just remains to be seen if Kidd can get them there.

[benefactor]

Giannis is terrifying tbh...probably one of the few players in the league I'd trade Kawhi for

[DAF86]

Giannis is terrifying tbh...probably one of the few players in the league I'd trade Kawhi for

Not this shit again. :lol

[Robz4000]

Giannis is terrifying tbh...probably one of the few players in the league I'd trade Kawhi for

Wouldn't go that far yet; need to see how/if his shot improves. I know the Spurs have Chip but Kawhi's shot wasn't that broken when they got him. Antetokounmpo needs his completely altered.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:tu I agree. They have a lot of talent and a lot of length. Delly gives them championship experience. With the Greek Freak, they create matchup issues on offense and defense that just ripple through an opponent's entire lineup. I could see these guys growing up right now and shocking a lot of people.

I could see them beating Cavs in round 2 as mediocre as they are playing.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Giannis is terrifying tbh...probably one of the few players in the league I'd trade Kawhi for

No. You don't trade Kawhi, that's stupid. You trade your next 3 first rounders, Simmons, Anderson, LMA, and if they want... Parker. But not Kawhi.

[benefactor]

He'll be better than Kawhi. Just a matter of time.

[Robz4000]

He'll be better than Kawhi. Just a matter of time.

Tough to say. Despite all his length Kawhi is still a better defender by far while having a more diverse offensive skillset. Physically he has the potential to be better than anyone, it'll all come down to how much he's willing to work for it.

[100%duncan]

Oh look a team beat Toronto in the playoffs, big fucking surprise!

[apalisoc_9]

Kinda painfull, at least for me. I don't support the Raptors but Trump Canadians have so much anymosity towards basketball. It's unreal.

Some of the most racist people I know too. Crazy because the raps have achieved more than any Canadian Hockey team in the last two years.

Leafs fan in general are so obnoxious. Always trying to take shots at raptors fans.

Heck Canadians in general have some sort of distate towarss PK Suban. A black dude.

[100%duncan]

Kinda painfull, at least for me. I don't support the Raptors but Trump Canadians have so much anymosity towards basketball. It's unreal.

Some of the most racist people I know too. Crazy because the raps have achieved more than any Canadian Hockey team in the last two years.

Leafs fan in general are so obnoxious. Always trying to take shots at raptors fans.

Heck Canadians in general have some sort of distate towarss PK Suban. A black dude.

Would you celebrate if say, the raptors won a chip?

[RD2191]

Giannis is terrifying tbh...probably one of the few players in the league I'd trade Kawhi for


He'll be better than Kawhi. Just a matter of time.

You need to stop drinking. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Would you celebrate if say, the raptors won a chip?

Nah.:lol

I just take the Bbalk side of things when Trump Canadians are out there trying to stir shit up.

[spursistan]

853402187237646336

Perennial playoff choker..

[Venti Quattro]

853402187237646336

Perennial playoff choker..

Trash Bros on playoff mode now, par for the course

[Venti Quattro]

Giannis blocked DeRozan so hard, he got a technical for it... Lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU7gdu468bA

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Giannis blocked DeRozan so hard, he got a technical for it... Lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU7gdu468bA
horse manure, he should appeal and get his $2k back plus 15% courtesy interest from the jew upstairs trying to steal money from yet another player tbh.

[illusioNtEk]

what a bad call in the last play, it's the ducking playoffs for fucks sakes

[dabom]

He'll be better than Kawhi. Just a matter of time.


You need to stop drinking. :lol
:lol

[apalisoc_9]

Raptors really making it easy for the bucks to defend them. Derozan is a huge ball stopper and the players aren't doing a decent job of moving without the ball. Taking contested shots against the longest team in the NBA that can run in transition is a recipe for disaster.

They need tp figure out a way to generate quality shots with Lowry and Derozan in the floor. Derozan has to do a better job with hedges.

There's a good opportunity to swing the ball in those situations but he's so methodical.

Lowry is really underwhelimng.

[apalisoc_9]

Raptors make a huge run minus Defrozen and Lowry.

Why am i not surprised.

[apalisoc_9]

I'm not sure if Malcom Brogdon is a top 10 perimter defender in the league or if Lowry is just fat.

[apalisoc_9]

The Raps aren't really having any trouble defending Antete. So I'm kinda confused with all these talk as if he's some kind of offensive star. :lol

[100%duncan]

apalisoc_9 wtf the raptors announcers sound retarded :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

apalisoc_9 wtf the raptors announcers sound retarded :lmao

What are you talking about bro? I like matt and jack

:lol

[140]

apalisoc_9 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260) wtf the raptors announcers sound retarded :lmao
I had the same reaction the first time I watched a game with them but now I find them pretty entertaining tbh :lol

[Robz4000]

Antetokounmpo is so fucking good my God.

[140]

Raps trying so hard to choke this game

[Clipper Nation]

Lowry with the flop of the century.

[Clipper Nation]

Fluke win by the Raptors. Their last three buckets were all just contested luck-chucks from midrange.

[Robz4000]

Minimum 6 games from here on out. Can see either team winning a Game 7 in Toronto.

[100%duncan]

I had the same reaction the first time I watched a game with them but now I find them pretty entertaining tbh :lol

First time watching the raptors feed :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Raptors still the better team but you're going to really struggle against the longest team in the NBA if you can't manufacture good looks. They made some really tough shots in the 4th.

With Antemontare needing about 7 steps to run from one side to another and with Middlton and snell both wings that can rebound and run and shoot...it can be a disaster.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I think Bucks can take the series

[spursistan]

The Bucks have completely stymied Raptors offense..just looking more and more in control of this series.

[Robz4000]

Forgot about this game. Bucks kicking ass.

[apalisoc_9]

Raptors offense is so shitty.

Nothing is going to change in Toronto unless they move on from their mediocre "stars".

But its a tough decision because no one wants to give up a 50 win team even if that 50 win team is shitty.

[spursistan]

If the Raptors lose this series, they should break up the Derozan/Lowry core and fire Casey.

At this point, there is surely some questions to answer about their preparation/game-planning for playoffs series..It is been 5 years of upsets and unexpected struggles against average and mediocre East teams..

[apalisoc_9]

If the Raptors lose this series, they should break up the Derozan/Lowry core and fire Casey.

At this point, there is surely some questions to answer about their preparation/game-planning for playoffs series..It is been 5 years of upsets and unexpected struggles against average and mediocre East teams..

Derozan thinking he's better than the 41st best NBA player. :lol

[rasuo214]

Raptors offense is so shitty.

Nothing is going to change in Toronto unless they move on from their mediocre "stars".

But its a tough decision because no one wants to give up a 50 win team even if that 50 win team is shitty.


Yea, the Raptors offense is complete trash. It really isn't a surprise that Derozon and Lowry have awful playoff numbers with the shots they take.

[resistanze]

If the Raptors lose this series, they should break up the Derozan/Lowry core and fire Casey.

At this point, there is surely some questions to answer about their preparation/game-planning for playoffs series..It is been 5 years of upsets and unexpected struggles against average and mediocre East teams..

Ujiri needs to fire himself for not getting rid of Casey after the Nets series years ago.

[monosylab1k]

So happy Mark Cuban chose not to draft Antetekounmpo and instead trade out and save money for Dwight Howard.

[spurraider21]

So happy Mark Cuban chose not to draft Antetekounmpo and instead trade out and save money for Dwight Howard.
Wouldn't need to save up for Howard if they just kept chandler tbh

[benefactor]

So happy Mark Cuban chose not to draft Antetekounmpo and instead trade out and save money for Dwight Howard.
I hear ya man...as a Texans fan, I have a whole string of reasons why I should have stuck the pistol in my mouth long ago. At least you have a ring.

[HarlemHeat37]

Typical Raps, tbh..losing this series would be great, though, Casey's dismissal is way overdue..trade DeRozan's cancerous ass, don't re-sign Lowry's fat ass, see if you can get anything for Valenciunas and blow it all up..

Their scheme is horrible, as it has been during every playoff run(even last year's fortunate run)..unable to stop arguably the worst halfcourt offense in the NBA:lol

[gambit1990]

https://i.imgur.com/TJaDlHW.png

https://i.imgur.com/kMUhwEr.png

[apalisoc_9]

Derozan is making shots but the shots he takes is also the reason why their ceiling is so low :lol

[Clipper Nation]

The Craptors are such trash. The only reason it's tied right now is because of the Bucks' stupid turnovers.

Lowry is one of the biggest choke artists ever. Never seen someone so visibly scared of the ball as he is come playoff time.

[spursistan]

The team that's going to make Lowry a $200 million player in the summer :lmao..

[Clipper Nation]

The team that's going to make Lowry a $200 million player in the summer :lmao..
Lakers Rumors: Kyle Lowry Expected To Be A Free Agent Target For L.A.http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-rumors-kyle-lowry-expected-to-be-a-free-agent-target-for-l-a/2017/02/28/

[Robz4000]

What an ugly, ugly game.

[IronMexican]

"Jurassic Park"


Some of these owners or people who set this up have no shame.

[spursistan]

Giannis will be 23 in 7 months without having developed a reliable jumper/3PT shot even in its early stages..At some point, it's going to be too late for that. It becomes too easy to neutralize non shooters in today's NBA..

[Clipper Nation]

Kidd just won the series for the Craptors with his horrendous "coaching." The Bucks have a bright future, but they need to get rid of that clown if they want to take the next step in the playoffs.

[spursistan]

Kidd just won the series for the Craptors with his horrendous "coaching."
He is the Bucks' Mark Jackson; they will ditch for real coach when they are ready to contend..:lol

[Robz4000]

Kidd just won the series for the Craptors with his horrendous "coaching." The Bucks have a bright future, but they need to get rid of that clown if they want to take the next step in the playoffs.

To be fair, the team's horrendous shooting did them in. They'll never be able to beat a legitimate team (which the Raptors aren't) in a series until they surround Antetokounmpo/Middleton/Parker (if he returns to form) with good to great shooters.

[apalisoc_9]

Antete is so limited offensively. If he's not shootin layups and dunks he's almost a liability. He doesn't have a three pointer or a midrange at all.

Worse, he's not the kind of player that creates space for his team.

[Clipper Nation]

To be fair, the team's horrendous shooting did them in. They'll never be able to beat a legitimate team (which the Raptors aren't) in a series until they surround Antetokounmpo/Middleton/Parker (if he returns to form) with good to great shooters.

Even with the poor shooting nights, Kidd blew it by waiting too long to put Thon back in. He also should have been working the refs, because they were letting the Raptors get away with murder all game. Never seen a team get away with throwing as many elbows as the Raptors have this series.

[Splits]

:lol Greek Freak
:lol 14 pts on 19 FGA
:lol 7 turnovers
:lol 76 points in a playoff game

[ViceCity86]

Raptors got this. Greek freak is the next overrated player of this generation.

[Robz4000]

This is going 7, and anyone can win that game 7. The winner gets to get cucked by the Cavs.

[spursistan]

Ibaka has owned Giannis on both ends in the first quarter so far..

[apalisoc_9]

Giannis can't shoot.

You can't be a top 15 star in the league of you cant shoot.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Giannis can't shoot.

You can't be a top 15 star in the league of you cant shoot.

http://thesportsfanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ts_110601shaqretires650.jpg

[resistanze]

Another example of a scrub team looking like world beaters against the Raptors. Its what got Solomon Hill paid last year :lol

Bucks are trash. People here overhyping them don't understand the Raptors playoffs effect.

[Robz4000]

Still think this goes 7 with either side having a great chance to pull it out.

[daslicer]

I felt the Bucks had to go up 3-1 to beat the Raptors. Once the Raptors won game 4 that ended any hope of them winning the series.

[spursistan]

This series looks about be done tonight.

Bucks need more shooters in the off-season, tbh.. It is brutal watching the corpse of Jason Terry getting minutes in the 2017 playoffs :lol.

And they have to see an improvement in Giannis' shooting next season; otherwise Bucks' ceiling will be limited especially in playoff setting. He just can't blow by anyone in the half court set when defenders are sagging off him few feet..

This shit is so easy to defend..

Josh Lewenberg@JLew1050 (http://twitter.com/JLew1050)http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/847872562205949953/_LnN-pDX_normal.jpg
(http://twitter.com/JLew1050)Milwaukee shot 3-for-17 from outside the paint in the first half.

[davethedope]

This game looks fixed.... Is the winner playing the cavs next?

[spursgu]

The east is a snooze fest once again

[spursistan]

Another example of a scrub team looking like world beaters against the Raptors. Its what got Solomon Hill paid last year :lol

Bucks are trash. People here overhyping them don't understand the Raptors playoffs effect.
Like this attempt at choking this game :lol..

[spursistan]

This is just Peak Raptors :lmao..

[resistanze]

:lol Craptors

[SAGirl]

Antetoukoumpo taking over.

[resistanze]

DeRozan :lmao

[spursistan]

Giannis FT-bricking gonna bail out Raptors :lol..

[rasuo214]

Giannis missing FTs like he's Lebron.

[spursistan]

Epic collapse :lmao..

[Reck]

A fistful of choke is what you have here despite what happens.

[SAGirl]

Milwaukee likeable young team tbh... :toast

[spursistan]

Unreal :lol

[Kyle Orton]

the fuckin JET

[SAGirl]

Wow the Jet still in the league ripping hearts out

[spursistan]

857765147112124416

Clippers East..

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Big shot Corey.

[SAGirl]

CoJo sighting.. Happy for the little guy... :toast

[SAGirl]

Dellavedova hustle...

[Robz4000]

CoJo just saved the Raptors with that shot.

[SAGirl]

This is a good game.. goddamn battle down the stretch.

[SAGirl]

Well I feel sad for Milwaukee bc I like that team.. but I am happy for COJO big time. Very underrated young player when he was a spur tbh

[Kyle Orton]

still a 1 possesion game if the weak freak didn't spent so much time shitting down his leg at the line, tbqh

[spursistan]

DeRozan :lmao
At least he's got some balls, unlike Lowry..Really Raptors should move on from the latter at least..

[SAGirl]

Ibaka for the choke faul lol ?

[SAGirl]

Fricking the Jet again.:lmao

[SAGirl]

Lowry off the ball D :nope

[SAGirl]

Grats Raptors.

[D-Wade]

You gotta go for the three if you're Giannis. But he'll be back

[resistanze]

Giannis is retarded. Waits 10 seconds then dunks it.

[resistanze]

All 3 of them with my nigga resistanze at the helm. :lol

Why ya'll clowning me when we were both 1 game off :lol

[DAF86]

:lol

[DAF86]

Giannis is retarded. Waits 10 seconds then dunks it.

Lack of 3pt shooting cost him there.

[ambchang]

The Bucks are reminiscent of the early/mid 90s Spurs, a transcendent big in the middle (who is not built for playoff ball) with a flawed team around him headed by a average/below average coach.

The Greek Freak is nothing but a poor man's David Robinson. Ultra quick for a big, GF's got better ball handling, the Robinson was the better scorer and far better defender. Both of them need a large amount of space to operate for an inside player, so it is tough to space the floor our for them (help defense can recover on the other perimeter players much easier given those two really start their offensive moves from about 15-20 feet out) The rest of the team are a poor fit for their talents, lack any quick three point shooters, average defenders, no inside dirty work players.

Difference of course, is that Robinson managed to drag those horrible teams to 50+ wins year after year, and sometimes go past the first, or even second round, GF is no where close to that.