Parker: 15 straight seasons of 10+ PPG and counting

[SASdynasty!]

Joins this list of 25 others that have had 15 total seasons averaging 10+ PPG.

http://bkref.com/tiny/HmsLu

And even better, he's on this list for assist longevity:

http://bkref.com/tiny/wrQHR

[apalisoc_9]

If Porker does decide to hold down and tie the spurs future for another 4 years..He's going to surpass Robinson in Most Regular poibts ad reach the 20k mark.


Talk about selfishness.

I bet thats the only reaon why he wants to continue on...To reach Drob despite being Done.

[SASdynasty!]

If Porker does decide to hold down and tie the spurs future for another 4 years..He's going to surpass Robinson in Most Regular poibts ad reach the 20k mark.


Talk about selfishness.

I bet thats the only reaon why he wants to continue on...To reach Drob despite being Done.
By your logic, Robinson was even more selfish then. He was only averaging 8.5 PPG in his 14th season and yet Parker is still putting up over 10 PPG in his 16th.

And you think those guys are selfish, look at a guy like Mills who can't even contribute 10 PPG in his prime. Why doesn't he retire?

[daledondale]

By your logic, Robinson was even more selfish then. He was only averaging 8.5 PPG in his 14th season and yet Parker is still putting up over 10 PPG in his 16th.Really?, why you don't talk about defense? . Robinson blind and in one leg it's better than Tony defending. Stop sucking Tony's dick, and maybe then the forum will take your threads seriously.

[BillMc]

Joins this list of 25 others that have had 15 total seasons averaging 10+ PPG.

http://bkref.com/tiny/HmsLu

And even better, he's on this list for assist longevity:

http://bkref.com/tiny/wrQHR

Spurs all-time great, underappreciated mainly on this site.

[apalisoc_9]

By your logic, Robinson was even more selfish then. He was only averaging 8.5 PPG in his 14th season and yet Parker is still putting up over 10 PPG in his 16th.

And you think those guys are selfish, look at a guy like Mills who can't even contribute 10 PPG in his prime. Why doesn't he retire?

Listern mr PPG guy, Robinson gave up his top dog Status in Duncan's rookie year. The Spurs lost to The LA fucking Clippers because he couldnt handle being an inferior player to Leonard.

[FkLA]

Listern mr PPG guy, Robinson gave up his top dog Status in Duncan's rookie year. The Spurs lost to The LA fucking Clippers because he couldnt handle being an inferior player to Leonard.

Truth bomb.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs lost to the Clippers because Kiwi got clamped by Matt Barnes.

Game 7:
Kiwi Barnes - 13pts, 1ast, 5/13fg
MVParker - 20pts, 5reb, 5ast
Duncan - 27pts, 11reb
Green - 16pts, 8reb, 3ast, 2stl, 5blk
Diaw - 12pts, 4reb, 3ast

[SASdynasty!]

Spurs lost to the Clippers because Kiwi got clamped by Matt Barnes.

Game 7:
Kiwi Barnes - 13pts, 1ast, 5/13fg
MVParker - 20pts, 5reb, 5ast
Duncan - 27pts, 11reb
Green - 16pts, 8reb, 3ast, 2stl, 5blk
Diaw - 12pts, 4reb, 3ast
Lol, a 15th year PG outscoring the franchise player in his prime in G7.

[FkLA]

21 shots for 20 points

Couldn't contain his inner hero and decided to put his cape on in a crucial Game 7 despite being god awful the entire series. :lol

[dabom]

Porker had the worst fucking playoff series all time EVER for fucks sake sake against the clippers. :lmao

Got outplayed by an injured fuck. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Lol, a 15th year PG outscoring the franchise player in his prime in G7.
Sad!

[bic50]

:claw

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Bragging about "averaging 10+ PPG"
:lmao Austin Rivers is averaging 12
:lmao Langston Galloway averaged 11.8 a few years ago
:lmao Speedy Claxton had several 10+ PPG seasons
:lmao So has Mario Chalmers
:lmao Porker stans blowing themselves the fuck out, per par

[ElNono]

:lmao Bragging about "averaging 10+ PPG"
:lmao Austin Rivers is averaging 12
:lmao Langston Galloway averaged 11.8 a few years ago
:lmao Speedy Claxton had several 10+ PPG seasons
:lmao So has Mario Chalmers
:lmao Porker stans blowing themselves the fuck out, per par

:lol

"but he averages 0.3 blocks for his 15th straight season!"

[tonight...you]

"He's a calming influence"...

[Mikeanaro]

Listern mr PPG guy, Robinson gave up his top dog Status in Duncan's rookie year. The Spurs lost to The LA fucking Clippers because he couldnt handle being an inferior player to Leonard.
Thats a nuke.

[sananspursfan21]

Ahhhhhhhhhh another "Parker's a total dick" assumption thread

[bic50]

:lma

[SASdynasty!]

:lmao Bragging about "averaging 10+ PPG"
:lmao Austin Rivers is averaging 12
:lmao Langston Galloway averaged 11.8 a few years ago
:lmao Speedy Claxton had several 10+ PPG seasons
:lmao So has Mario Chalmers
:lmao Porker stans blowing themselves the fuck out, per par
The thread is for players who did it for 15+ years, not for guys who did it once. Reading comprehension off the charts low on this one.

[Canyonero]

Listern mr PPG guy, Robinson gave up his top dog Status in Duncan's rookie year. The Spurs lost to The LA fucking Clippers because he couldnt handle being an inferior player to Leonard.

Damn, not even Trump would throw such a truth bomb.

[Clipper Nation]

The thread is for players who did it for 15+ years, not for guys who did it once. Reading comprehension off the charts low on this one.
You're bragging about an incredibly insignificant accomplishment. When you chuck as much as Porker does and you have a seemingly unlimited leash, you should at least be able to average 10 PPG.

But hey, when your favorite player is statistically the second-biggest playoff choke artist in NBA history and has a track record of being outplayed by his own backups in playoff series, you have to grasp for any regular-season moral victory you can get.

[DPG21920]

You're bragging about an incredibly insignificant accomplishment. When you chuck as much as Porker does and you have a seemingly unlimited leash, you should at least be able to average 10 PPG.

But hey, when your favorite player is statistically the second-biggest playoff choke artist in NBA history and has a track record of being outplayed by his own backups in playoff series, you have to grasp for any regular-season moral victory you can get.

:lmao Chuck. One of the most efficient guards in NBA history. Certainly not a chucker.

[DMC]

Listern mr PPG guy, Robinson gave up his top dog Status in Duncan's rookie year. The Spurs lost to The LA fucking Clippers because he couldnt handle being an inferior player to Leonard.

Not "inferior" but different. We know he's inferior but that wasn't what Tony had to accept, and it wasn't on Tony. Kawhi didn't step up. I didn't see BJ Armstrong causing Michael Jordan's Bulls to lose because he wouldn't accept Mike as a better player. Kawhi has a tendency to try to be part of the system, and that's where his natural ability gets ignored.

If Tony really wanted to show he was better than Kawhi, he would have passed to Kawhi at every opportunity and allowed Kawhi to fail. Everyone around Tony in his entire NBA career, who now have jerseys hanging in the rafters or soon will, epitomize unselfish play. Tony knows that. If you think Tony sees that template struck over and over again, yet decides to try to go the Westbrook route instead, you're misreading Tony's intentions, I think. The PG is still the team leader. Kawhi isn't vocal enough to do it. Until Kawhi steps up and makes it his team, there will always be some other Tony Parker type to do it for him.

[dabom]

Porker was trash in all elimination series. I can't say the same about that with Tim or Manu. :lol

[RD2191]

:lmao Bragging about "averaging 10+ PPG"
:lmao Austin Rivers is averaging 12
:lmao Langston Galloway averaged 11.8 a few years ago
:lmao Speedy Claxton had several 10+ PPG seasons
:lmao So has Mario Chalmers
:lmao Porker stans blowing themselves the fuck out, per par

:lmao

[superbigtime]

The stupidity on display here is profound.

[DMC]

You're bragging about an incredibly insignificant accomplishment. When you chuck as much as Porker does and you have a seemingly unlimited leash, you should at least be able to average 10 PPG.

But hey, when your favorite player is statistically the second-biggest playoff choke artist in NBA history and has a track record of being outplayed by his own backups in playoff series, you have to grasp for any regular-season moral victory you can get.
Thought you were talking about Chris Paul for a second, but I'll have to see if Austin Rivers out played Paul last year. Tony has 4 rings and a Finals MVP. Patty Mills has more playoff success than Chris Paul.

[SpursforSix]

Thought you were talking about Chris Paul for a second, but I'll have to see if Austin Rivers out played Paul last year. Tony has 4 rings and a Finals MVP. Patty Mills has more playoff success than Chris Paul.

And Matt Bonner has more rings than Karl Malone and Barkley combined.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why did Fatty Mills enter this thread? The scrub can't even average 10 in a contract year in his fucking prime :lol

[SASdynasty!]

Porker was trash in all elimination series. I can't say the same about that with Tim or Manu. :lol
Oh really? How about this one:

Spurs/Mavs 2009

Tony Parker: 28.6 PPG, 6.8 APG, 4.2 RPG on 55% shooting

Do you want some others or is this one enough to disprove your ridiculous claims?

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh really? How about this one:

Spurs/Mavs 2009

Tony Parker: 28.6 PPG, 6.8 APG, 4.2 RPG on 55% shooting

Do you want some others or is this one enough to disprove your ridiculous claims?
Best guard in franchise history and it's probably not even close. No disrespect to George Hill, Danny Green, and Stephen Jackson

[dabom]

Where the big three played faggot. Not some meaningless fucking series. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker showing up against the Mavs while others foul Dirk.

Truly alpha :worthy:

[Chinook]

Spurs lost to the Clippers because Kiwi got clamped by Matt Barnes.

Game 7:
Kiwi Barnes - 13pts, 1ast, 5/13fg
MVParker - 20pts, 5reb, 5ast
Duncan - 27pts, 11reb
Green - 16pts, 8reb, 3ast, 2stl, 5blk
Diaw - 12pts, 4reb, 3ast

Danny with a Draymond line before Draymond was even a thing.

[MultiTroll]

Spurs lost to the Clippers because Kiwi got clamped by Matt Barnes.

Game 7:
Kiwi Barnes - 13pts, 1ast, 5/13fg
MVParker - 20pts, 5reb, 5ast
Duncan - 27pts, 11reb
Green - 16pts, 8reb, 3ast, 2stl, 5blk
Diaw - 12pts, 4reb, 3ast
Kirby Bryant 25 ppg 2015-16. Yeah there is some Parker comparison.

Parker sure made sure Kwa got the ball in the right spots too.

[DPG21920]

The stupidity on display here is profound.

To be honest, it's really only 4-5 posters that are idiots. The problem is that they post so consistently and with such repetitiveness that it feels worse than it its.

[TheGreatYacht]

Danny with a Draymond line before Draymond was even a thing.
Yup. Miss LDN tbh

He's still the best perimeter defender on the team though

[SnakeBoy]

I'm looking forward to Parker's jersey retirement ceremony. It's going to be a great thread.

[MaNu4Tres]

We were so fortunate Pop pulled the plug on Avery at the perfect time instead of giving him the new deal he got from Denver.

Imagine if Pop had the heart he has now, Avery would have started from 01'-03' and TP wouldn't have ever played in the 01' series vs. the Sonics when we saw his potential on full display.

[DPG21920]

We were so fortunate Pop pulled the plug on Avery at the perfect time instead of giving him the new deal he got from Denver.

Imagine if Pop had the heart he has now, Avery would have started from 01'-03' and TP wouldn't have ever played in the 01' series vs. the Sonics when we saw his potential on full display.

Well, to be fair. TP, although young, was much more accomplished than Murray. It's not apples to apples just because of age IMO.

[MaNu4Tres]

Well, to be fair. TP, although young, was much more accomplished than Murray. It's not apples to apples just because of age IMO.

I don't know about that. I think you're being generous with the " more accomplished" praise. Tony played for Paris Basket Racing for crying out loud.

Manu on the other hand, now he was more accomplished coming in. Tony was an unknown.

[DPG21920]

I don't know about that. I think you're being generous with the " more accomplished" praise. Tony played for Paris Basket Racing for crying out loud.

Manu on the other hand, now he was more accomplished coming in. Tony was an unknown.

Say what you will, but TP's level of play at the same age was pretty clearly more accomplished by most standards. That and the fact Pop played him and he did so well at the NBA level clearly shows that.

[TheGreatYacht]

Murray lost his chance when he got hurt, unfortunately. I was hoping he would take Mills' minutes.

Best case scenario is Simmons takes Manu's minutes now.

[MaNu4Tres]

Say what you will, but TP's level of play at the same age was pretty clearly more accomplished by most standards. That and the fact Pop played him and he did so well at the NBA level clearly shows that.

Meh. We don't know that for sure at all.

That's inconclusive, because Murray hasn't had a real opportunity and every-time he does get a real opportunity ( more than 20 minutes in a game), he has surpassed expectations and performed better than anyone thought. ( 11.4 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 53% from the field and 38% from three -- while not being a liability on the defensive end ( yes he's made some mental mistakes, but teams can't physically exploit him like they do Patty and Tony.

As for Parker, Parker had an opportunity because there was no other options. Pop was forced to play Tony out of necessity. Parker received an abundant amount of playing time for long stretches to figure it out, and things didn't exactly click with him from the start. He really started to sprout in the spring and playoffs of his rookie year.

Murrays' road to freedom has been blocked off, for the time being, because of being drafted to a team with a 15 year Hall of Fame Point guard and a well respected proven veteran backing him up. No matter how good Murray was going to be this year, Pop wasn't going to play him over Patty or Parker and he wasn't going to play him over Manu or Anderson/Simmons at the SG spot.

[MaNu4Tres]

FYI:

PER 36 minutes of Parker and Murrays rookie years:

Note: Over half of Murrays' minutes that factor into these numbers came when he STARTED and played 8 games. So I don't want to hear, " well he played against weaker competition excuse".


Parker rookie year: GS: 72. 11.2 points 5.3 assists, 3 rpg, 1.4 spg. 42% shooting and 32% from 3.
Murray rookie year: GS: 8. 14.4 points, 5.4 apg, 4 rpg, .9 spg . 7 bpg. 43% shooting and 39% from 3.

There definitely needs more sample size from Murray to draw end all conclusions on who was better their rookie year, but based on what we have to access-- Murrays' was very comparable to TP -- he just needed minutes and playing time (which he wasn't going to have from the get go because of the depth that Pop respects).

[Chinook]

http://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/#!?sort=DEF_RATING&dir=-1&CF=GP*GE*60:MIN*G*24

those have Parker as a top 15 defender in the league.

So yeah, the NBA has gone plum bonkers.

[dabom]

Defensive rating should only be compared to your team and even then you have to actually watch the games to understand a whole bunch of other Shit. Pretty hard to explain to a casual.

[SnakeBoy]

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/33/03/33/7091919/3/960x540.jpg

[Splits]

852963278754009089

:wow

[Clipper Nation]

Thought you were talking about Chris Paul for a second, but I'll have to see if Austin Rivers out played Paul last year. Tony has 4 rings and a Finals MVP. Patty Mills has more playoff success than Chris Paul.
http://s5.postimg.org/rcwjg880n/RS_PO_BPM_differentials_worst.png

[TD 21]

We were so fortunate Pop pulled the plug on Avery at the perfect time instead of giving him the new deal he got from Denver.

Imagine if Pop had the heart he has now, Avery would have started from 01'-03' and TP wouldn't have ever played in the 01' series vs. the Sonics when we saw his potential on full display.

It was more so about . . .



As for Parker, Parker had an opportunity because there was no other options. Pop was forced to play Tony out of necessity. Parker received an abundant amount of playing time for long stretches to figure it out, and things didn't exactly click with him from the start. He really started to sprout in the spring and playoffs of his rookie year.

Murrays' road to freedom has been blocked off, for the time being, because of being drafted to a team with a 15 year Hall of Fame Point guard and a well respected proven veteran backing him up. No matter how good Murray was going to be this year, Pop wasn't going to play him over Patty or Parker and he wasn't going to play him over Manu or Anderson/Simmons at the SG spot.

Even though they had won a championship and been a good franchise for a decade, the Spurs weren't the Spurs in '01 and Johnson wasn't Parker.

[apalisoc_9]

http://s5.postimg.org/rcwjg880n/RS_PO_BPM_differentials_worst.png

How the hell dod Malone manage to trick voters to vote for him twice MVP in the 90s...Specially since he wasn't even the third best player in the 90s...mind blown.

[SpursforSix]

Meh. We don't know that for sure at all.

That's inconclusive, because Murray hasn't had a real opportunity and every-time he does get a real opportunity ( more than 20 minutes in a game), he has surpassed expectations and performed better than anyone thought. ( 11.4 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 53% from the field and 38% from three -- while not being a liability on the defensive end ( yes he's made some mental mistakes, but teams can't physically exploit him like they do Patty and Tony.

As for Parker, Parker had an opportunity because there was no other options. Pop was forced to play Tony out of necessity. Parker received an abundant amount of playing time for long stretches to figure it out, and things didn't exactly click with him from the start. He really started to sprout in the spring and playoffs of his rookie year.

Murrays' road to freedom has been blocked off, for the time being, because of being drafted to a team with a 15 year Hall of Fame Point guard and a well respected proven veteran backing him up. No matter how good Murray was going to be this year, Pop wasn't going to play him over Patty or Parker and he wasn't going to play him over Manu or Anderson/Simmons at the SG spot.

Parker was way more NBA ready than Murray at the same age. Parker's ball handling skills were NBA worthy almost immediately. And he had the quickness to be a weapon early on.
As much as I like Murray and hope for the best, it's not even close imo.

[MaNu4Tres]

Parker was way more NBA ready than Murray at the same age. Parker's ball handling skills were NBA worthy almost immediately. And he had the quickness to be a weapon early on.
As much as I like Murray and hope for the best, it's not even close imo.

It's inconclusive. If you say one or the other your biased. Fact of the matter is we didn't see enough of Murray to really assess or analyze to really compare the two.

The times we did see Murray play with starters and play enough to get a feel for the game, he played great and showed the quickness and ability to finish inside (like Tony). It's inconclusive though, we didn't get enough evidence to really draw end all conclusions.

If you want, we can spin eachother in circles with the discussion but facts are facts. Not enough evidence and with the true evidence we have.. its close.

[DMC]

Where the big three played faggot. Not some meaningless fucking series. :lol

He says the big three forgetting that Tony is one of those.

[DMC]

http://s5.postimg.org/rcwjg880n/RS_PO_BPM_differentials_worst.png

Yet there's only one player who has more playoff appearances without ever making the Conference Finals than Chris Paul.

[DMC]

How the hell dod Malone manage to trick voters to vote for him twice MVP in the 90s...Specially since he wasn't even the third best player in the 90s...mind blown.

Because MVP is a regular-season award.

[SpursforSix]

It's inconclusive. If you say one or the other your biased. Fact of the matter is we didn't see enough of Murray to really assess or analyze to really compare the two.

The times we did see Murray play with starters and play enough to get a feel for the game, he played great and showed the quickness and ability to finish inside (like Tony). It's inconclusive though, we didn't get enough evidence to really draw end all conclusions.

If you want, we can spin eachother in circles with the discussion but facts are facts. Not enough evidence and with the true evidence we have.. its close.

Man...I'm certainly not biased. Murray doesn't have near the handles that TP had. But yeah...Murray definitely impressed with the short spurts he had. And he probably has a better build to play defense. And yeah...Parker had Duncan back there. It's probably closer than I said. But I still think that a parker was was more ready. And maybe that had to do with the volume of games he played before the NBA.

Hopefully Murray will get the chance to prove himself next year if not in the playoffs.

[Clipper Nation]

Yet there's only one player who has more playoff appearances without ever making the Conference Finals than Chris Paul.
That's -154 talkin'.

[Mikeanaro]

Man...I'm certainly not biased. Murray doesn't have near the handles that TP had. But yeah...Murray definitely impressed with the short spurts he had. And he probably has a better build to play defense. And yeah...Parker had Duncan back there. It's probably closer than I said. But I still think that a parker was was more ready. And maybe that had to do with the volume of games he played before the NBA.

Hopefully Murray will get the chance to prove himself next year if not in the playoffs.
There is nothing to prove actually, Porker is eroding and its a matter of time it could be now or in 5 more years (french faggot) but Murray will have his chance.

[DMC]

That's -154 talkin'.

^That's "Taylor Swift got a banner in Staples before the Clippers" talkin'

[SpursforSix]

There is nothing to prove actually, Porker is eroding and its a matter of time it could be now or in 5 more years (french faggot) but Murray will have his chance.

Well, that would be a damn interesting 5 fucking years. I would assume that at some point, he'd get taken out.

[GSH]

10 PPG for the starting PG on a team with Championship aspirations isn't exactly something to celebrate. If you're worried about his number being retired and raised into the rafters, then I guess it's a big deal.

I only care about the current year's Championship chances. 10 PPG, from a score-first PG, isn't enough. Especially when the 3-and-D guy is chronically single-digits, and the starting C can't make shit unless someone hits him for an Ally-Oop dunk.

I understand that a lot of you care about records and legacies. Keep us posted on how those things are going.

[will_spurs]

852963278754009089

:wow

That's almost 3 regular seasons worth of playoff games o_O

[gambit1990]

852963278754009089

:wow
playoffs, career:




WS
VORP


lebron
41.6
26.8


manu
20.6
10.6


tony
13.2
3.7


but tony played more games :cry:cry:cry

[MaNu4Tres]

Page 2 has some pretty good discussion on Murray.. tbh.

Kid has been more than ready.