Aldridge and Green: a tale of opposite playoff performances..

[spursistan]

LMA: 9th largest player decline in Box Plus/Minus from reg season to playoffs after merger..Flat out embarrassing..

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LDN: 17th largest increase in career Box Plus/Minus from reg season to playoffs w/ min 1000 playoff mins since merger..

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I said it before: DG is second most impactful Spur after Kawhi..

[Chinook]

Kawhi and Danny are fifth and eight in BPM for the playoffs among active players. Manu is ninth and Pau is 15th.

[dabom]

Kawhi carrying green per par.

[Chinook]

What's sort of fascinating is that both Danny and Kawhi are two-way players. Danny has a DBPM of 2.74 to Kawhi's 2.59 (which makes sense for those who actually watch them). Pau has a DBPM fo 3.51. Manu is at 1.31.

Then in OBPM, Kawhi has a 3.91 while Danny has a 3.02. Manu has a 3.96 and Pau has a 1.12.

[DMC]

LDN hit some big shots last night. Dude had some defensive success and weren't skeert on offense.

[rastaspur]

Shout out to the red rocket at #23.

P.s. Eff karl malone. Glad to see him on the list.

[Chinook]

Danny's carrying a net rating of 91 :wow

Manu's carrying a net rating of -30 :wow:wow:wow

[Robz4000]

LDN doing LDN things, nothing to see here...

[SAGirl]

Danny's carrying a net rating of 91 :wow

Manu's carrying a net rating of -30 :wow:wow:wow
Post the chart... share!

Hard to take too much from this series as it concerns to Manu. He's been bad.
If anything, Memphis bench being flat out awful has saved his +/- and others making shots.

If anything, I hope he get some rhythm for the next series. He's got to come back up with his shooting.

[ElNono]

Danny's carrying a net rating of 91 :wow

Manu's carrying a net rating of -30 :wow:wow:wow

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[Chinook]

Post the chart... share!

Hard to take too much from this series as it concerns to Manu. He's been bad.
If anything, Memphis bench being flat out awful has saved his +/- and others making shots.

If anything, I hope he get some rhythm for the next series. He's got to come back up with his shooting.

Just check BBall Ref's Spurs numbers for the playoffs.

[BillMc]

LMA has been fine. The Memphis bigs are the biggest challenge on that team, and he's responded well.

[daledondale]

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[pad300]

I think Aldridge's numbers are strongly influenced by his time in Portland. Last year with the spurs, BPM (regular season) 1.8 BPM (playoffs) 1.8. This year BPM (regular season) 1.1, BPM (playoffs to date) -1.0 . Yes, he's not had a great series by BPM, but 2 games isn't exactly a large sample size...

[SAGirl]

shout out to Matt Bonner, Batum, Karl Malone...

Lowry and Derozan :lol

[SAGirl]

Frankly... maybe Lamarcus is turning off the twitter.

dude can have a scoring explosion out of nowhere.

Maybe these games on the road he will get hot.

(maybe Manu will too.. when you have guys that have just been off, those are the most dangerous to bounce back with big games.)

[tholdren]

Kawhi and Danny are fifth and eight in BPM for the playoffs among active players. Manu is ninth and Pau is 15th.

dumbest stat ever. Danny with the lesser skills than Charlie ward. plus minus is for losers

[Keepin' it real]

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Ha!The Poisedon Adventure ... great movie!

[DeRozan m8]

The big boy LMA just hates getting physical aye.
Affects his whole game

[sananspursfan21]

His defense at the rim stands up to the eye test. Heck, his perimeter D does too thus far

[BillMc]

His defense at the rim stands up to the eye test. Heck, his perimeter D does too thus far

This. He's our best big defending on the perimeter.

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This. He's our best big defending on the perimeter.

And it's not even close really.

[gambit1990]

the highest paid player on the team deserves more than 8 shots. tp had almost twice as many in game 2.

[Russ]

The implicit assumption is flawed because increase in performance for the playoffs is almost as bad as decrease in performance.

Look at the names on both those lists -- very few championships between them.

Title teams are built on consistency not big jumps (or falloffs) between regular season and play off performance.

A player can't dramatically increase his performance in the playoffs unless his regular season performance was subpar. It's statistically impossible.

Championship teams are hard-pressed to absorb that type of inconsistency.

[Chinook]

A player can't dramatically increase his performance in the playoffs unless his regular season performance was subpar. It's statistically impossible.

Not really. Obviously, in Danny's case, that may be true (especially the last two years). But you can argue that guys like him take on bigger roles in the playoffs because teams gameplan differently. Danny's increase comes in large part due to his OBPM nearly tripling in the playoffs. That's likely due to teams making it less of a priority to stop him in the playoffs compared to the regular season. Something has to give. During the 82, you want your guys to play sound D and not leave shooters open. During the post-season, you want to take away the first options and make the others beat you. Danny's just showing them that he can beat they if they lay off.

[Russ]

Not really. Obviously, in Danny's case, that may be true (especially the last two years). But you can argue that guys like him take on bigger roles in the playoffs because teams gameplan differently. Danny's increase comes in large part due to his OBPM nearly tripling in the playoffs. That's likely due to teams making it less of a priority to stop him in the playoffs compared to the regular season. Something has to give. During the 82, you want your guys to play sound D and not leave shooters open. During the post-season, you want to take away the first options and make the others beat you. Danny's just showing them that he can beat they if they lay off.

Good point. Still, I bet plenty of role players who are sagged off of and perform well in the playoffs have a better regular season baseline than, say, Danny.

[rasuo214]

Yea great numbers until you notice that Dwayne Dedmon is 3rd on the team in BPM (8.2) and top 5 in net rating (5th best Ortg).

[Chinook]

Good point. Still, I bet plenty of role players who are sagged off of and perform well in the playoffs have a better regular season baseline than, say, Danny.

I wouldn't go that far. Green for some reason doesn't quality for the leaderboard, but if he did his score would put him 16 in regular-season BPM (would go down since Leonard is not on the list either but he'd be ahead of guys like Vince, Iggy and Paul Pierce). Don't confuse him being crazy elite in the playoffs for him not being great in the regular season. He's very good in both.

[Chinook]

Yea great numbers until you notice that Dwayne Dedmon is 3rd on the team in BPM (8.2) and top 5 in net rating (5th best Ortg).

Difference is that Dedmon's played 28 playoff minutes to Kawhi's 2500-plus and Danny's 2000-plus.

[Russ]

I wouldn't go that far. Green for some reason doesn't quality for the leaderboard, but if he did his score would put him 16 in regular-season BPM (would go down since Leonard is not on the list either but he'd be ahead of guys like Vince, Iggy and Paul Pierce). Don't confuse him being crazy elite in the playoffs for him not being great in the regular season. He's very good in both.

Good point again (but I thought you were using Danny as an example because he did qualify on the list, if he doesn't your original point may be somewhat compromised).

[gambit1990]

maybe the starting PG could get la involved?

[Chinook]

Good point again (but I thought you were using Danny as an example because he did qualify on the list, if he doesn't your original point is somewhat compromised).

He qualifies for the playoff list, but not the regular-season one for some reason. But his numbers in the regular season are up there with stars. They just jump to superstar levels in the post-season.

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elnono always deserves props for not taking shit too seriously, ever