Prime Kawhi vs Prime Kobe. Who's better??

[hater]

Obviously Kobe is the better offensive player and more cluch. But thats about it. Kawhi is superior to Kobe in every single other category. Defense, rebounding, blocking, defense, team chemistry, leadership, etc, etc, etc

IMO Kawhi is a hybrid between Pippen and Jordan. Kobe a Jordan imitation. A very good one but imitation nontheless.

Ill take Kawhi every day over Kobe. IMO

[313]

Kawhi hasn't missed the playoffs in his prime, so gotta go with him for now. Just by default, though.

[Chinook]

Kawhi, and homeboy ain't even in his prime yet.

[NameLess Scrub]

Trick question. They're interchangeable.

[cd98]

Kobe was scary when Lakers were down 20. He could be unstoppable on offense. That said Kawhi is a more efficient scorer and a better defender. But you have to get late 30s Kobe out of your head. In his 20s, he was a monster.

[Leetonidas]

I love Kawhi but man some of y'all are forgetting how kobe raped us repeatedly in the early 2000s

[lefty20]

Kirby's clutch stats :lol

[LittleCriminal]

I love Kawhi but man some of y'all are forgetting how kobe raped us repeatedly in the early 2000s

Dont forget about the ugly white girl he raped too..

[UZER]

I love Kawhi but man some of y'all are forgetting how kobe raped us repeatedly in the early 2000s

I know of one person that won't forget.

[$pursDynasty]

too soon, I won't believe that the KingSlayer has hit his peak until his numbers start to decline, whose to say he doesn't have a lot higher to go?

[spurraider21]

Hard to say as we don't know if kawhi has peaked. Based on his age and ridiculous trajectory thus far, he almost certainly hasn't. Fair or unfair, kawhi won't enter that discussion unless he gets post-duncan rings. I know he was (deservedly) finals mvp in 2014, but that was still timmys team. Iirc throughout the postseason he was the 3rd/4th option

[south side spur]

I'll take Kawhi as well. He's more consistent and as of yet no drama. Just when I was starting to think that Kobe was creeping up on MJ he has an atrocious performance in that game 7 vs Boston. If I remember correctly his Orlando Finals wasn't that clutch either. I remember some missed free throws and we're always killing Kawhi for that so we definitely can't let Kobe off the hook.

[Dex]

Can not compute.

Kawhi is not even in his final form yet.

[Poolboy5623]

kawhi is in his prime?

[Arcadian]

Kobe was NOT more clutch, why the hell do you think that?

Kawhi would shut that nigglet down and forcibly take his lunch money.

To those saying he's not there yet, I would say Kawhi has just entered his early prime, but he hasn't peaked yet. But still, he's already better than Kobe ever was.

[cd98]

Take what they did at their same ages.

[Seventyniner]

Take what they did at their same ages.

For this year, sure. But age 20-22 Kawhi was the 3rd option on offense at best, he didn't break 20% USG until his 4th season. Kobe, by contrast, never had a USG% below 24.7 (rookie year) and by age 22 he was in the low 30s (Kawhi this year is 31.1%) for the rest of his career.

I don't think Kawhi has any chance of matching Kobe's career numbers (shocker!), but he has the capability to match Kobe's volume (when the Lakers were good, excluding those 35+% USG Kobe lottery years) and match or exceed Kobe's efficiency. And Kawhi is a better defender than Kobe ever was, so it's quite possible that late 20s Kawhi can be better than Kobe at that age.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html

[look_at_g_shred]

Dont forget about the ugly white girl he raped too..
haha

[daledondale]

People is blind on hate. Kobe is a rapist faggot, but in his prime was a beast. Also Kawhi hasn't reached his prime yet. We must wait and see.

[hater]

Why is wveryone so upset at the question?

Its a fair question tbqh. Sure Kawhi might not be at his absolute prime but he is very very close. He matured early thanks to Duncan, Pop and Parker

And Kobe was damn clutch

But I agree young Kobe was far inferior to Kawhi. In maturirty especially

Can u imagine the tandem of Shaq+Kawhi???

10 rings minimum

[dabom]

Does Kawhi even get jealous of Shaq? :lol

[r0drig0lac]

the answer is obvious

[Benoit]

hahahahahahahha

hahahahahaha

wait wait wait wait

a guy who led a team to 2 titles and was co-leader for 3 more vs. a player who hasnt led a team past the 2nd round and got shut down by Matt Barnes and Robertson on OKC?? LMFAO

Kobe is the 2nd best player ever and undisputed best of his generation according to most experts that played the game and coached it

Leonard can barely dribble, cant pass, isnt clutch and relies on refs as much as Harden and LeFlop lmao i know posters here hate Kobe because he always killed their team and outplayed Jim in every matchup but this is homer shit on a different level

[dabom]

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[Benoit]

Autist isnt even better on defense either lmao

Did you all forgot how many all-defense teams Kobe was on?? And he didnt have the luxury of playing on stacked teams where he could focus on defense

Imagine Kobe in Pops system too hahaha it wouldnt have been fair to the league

Leonards team was better on defense when he was on the bench this season

[dabom]

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[LittleCriminal]

People is blind on hate. Kobe is a rapist faggot, but in his prime was a beast. Also Kawhi hasn't reached his prime yet. We must wait and see.

Now that i have had a second to ponder,
That ugly white girl Kobe raped wasn't in her prime either, just like Kawhi.

[LittleCriminal]

Autist isnt even better on defense either lmao

Did you all forgot how many all-defense teams Kobe was on?? And he didnt have the luxury of playing on stacked teams where he could focus on defense

Imagine Kobe in Pops system too hahaha it wouldnt have been fair to the league

Leonards team was better on defense when he was on the bench this season

OMG you think Kobe didnt have stacked Laker Teams?? Lol wtf

[Clipper Nation]

Obviously Kobe is the better offensive player and more cluch.
:lmao Stopped reading there.

[Arcadian]

Autist isnt even better on defense either lmao

Did you all forgot how many all-defense teams Kobe was on?? And he didnt have the luxury of playing on stacked teams where he could focus on defense

Imagine Kobe in Pops system too hahaha it wouldnt have been fair to the league

Leonards team was better on defense when he was on the bench this season

Put the dick back in your mouth where it belongs, faggot. That'll shut you up. And you'd like it, too.

[illusioNtEk]

let's wait 5 more years and bump this thread... KL not in prime yet.

[cd98]

Autist isnt even better on defense either lmao

Did you all forgot how many all-defense teams Kobe was on?? And he didnt have the luxury of playing on stacked teams where he could focus on defense

Imagine Kobe in Pops system too hahaha it wouldnt have been fair to the league

Leonards team was better on defense when he was on the bench this season


I know you're just trolling and nice job, but just for fun, Kobe never won DPY, Kawhi's done it twice.

[bic50]

At what age is an athlete in their prime ?

[dabom]

At what age is an athlete in their prime ?

28

[bic50]

hahahahahahahha

hahahahahaha

wait wait wait wait

a guy who led a team to 2 titles and was co-leader for 3 more vs. a player who hasnt led a team past the 2nd round and got shut down by Matt Barnes and Robertson on OKC?? LMFAO

Kobe is the 2nd best player ever and undisputed best of his generation according to most experts that played the game and coached it

Leonard can barely dribble, cant pass, isnt clutch and relies on refs as much as Harden and LeFlop lmao i know posters here hate Kobe because he always killed their team and outplayed Jim in every matchup but this is homer shit on a different level
hee-haw

[bic50]

Autist isnt even better on defense either lmao

Did you all forgot how many all-defense teams Kobe was on?? And he didnt have the luxury of playing on stacked teams where he could focus on defense

Imagine Kobe in Pops system too hahaha it wouldnt have been fair to the league

Leonards team was better on defense when he was on the bench this season
HEE- HAWWH!

[CGD]

Kawahi is just entering his prime. Let's see this in two years

[BillMc]

Someone should ask Pau he played with both of them in their primes.

[hater]

Someone should ask Pau he played with both of them in their primes.

:lol

[OrEmuN]

Kobe is definitely not clutch.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/1/3/7485611/kobe-bryant-clutch-lakers-data

[hater]

Another thought fellas btw happy 420

In real life Leonard looks like a god dam beast. Saw that dude a few months ago n he looks like Gohan when he goes Great Ape in the full moon

Kobe looks like a cab driver

[UZER]

Kobe is definitely not clutch.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/1/3/7485611/kobe-bryant-clutch-lakers-data

It doesn't matter. The media creates the perception.

[Thomas82]

At what age is an athlete in their prime ?

Generally players are in their primes from 25-32, with their peak coming at 28 or 29.

[Arcadian]

I would say the prime years for basketball are usually 26-32, while the peak varies a lot. For example, Nash and Hakeem peaked in their 30s.

[szkorhetz]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Kobe wouldn't have been locked down by fucking Ennis, nor Carter, in fact was never locked down by Carter, not even the prime one.

Don't get me wrong, I like Kawhi. But he doesn't belong to the same sentence as Kobe Bryant, who I have always hated, but as a basketball player (in his prime) was the best out there and would have scored 40+ on this Grizz team...

[duncan2k5]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Kobe wouldn't have been locked down by fucking Ennis, nor Carter, in fact was never locked down by Carter, not even the prime one.

Don't get me wrong, I like Kawhi. But he doesn't belong to the same sentence as Kobe Bryant, who I have always hated, but as a basketball player (in his prime) was the best out there and would have scored 40+ on this Grizz team...

reality is different from perception...kobe hasnt had many great playoff runs...and his shooting percentages were horrible

[cutewizard]

Why is wveryone so upset at the question?

Its a fair question tbqh. Sure Kawhi might not be at his absolute prime but he is very very close. He matured early thanks to Duncan, Pop and Parker

And Kobe was damn clutch

But I agree young Kobe was far inferior to Kawhi. In maturirty especially

Can u imagine the tandem of Shaq+Kawhi???

10 rings minimum

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Hakeem at center, Kawhi at small forward and Jordan at off guard =========== dream three!

[cutewizard]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Kobe wouldn't have been locked down by fucking Ennis, nor Carter, in fact was never locked down by Carter, not even the prime one.

Don't get me wrong, I like Kawhi. But he doesn't belong to the same sentence as Kobe Bryant, who I have always hated, but as a basketball player (in his prime) was the best out there and would have scored 40+ on this Grizz team...

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Got a point there......

But indeed, we have to wait and see, the next few years will determine the legacy of Kawhi......

Can he take over from Lebron as THE MAN????? That is the question.

[cutewizard]

Let's feature some videos from the web:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaux_5mgyoA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA3p8moe2r8

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDfVImhGJ_0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g54qvSEK3lc

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxRwErl-mgc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRAs5Ju3j7k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDqxuJCDM78

hmmmmm...................

Offensively, Kobe was a demon...........!

[cutewizard]

I think the more fair and relevant comparison for Kawhi would be the versatile, two-way small forwards and wingmen......

Scottie Pippen

Paul Pressey

Grant Hill

Sean Elliott

Bruce Bowen


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And of course, the Two Immortals, Larry Bird and Lebron James.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUSB74tPyVc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUoTYdqTr8

[cutewizard]

I think the more fair and relevant comparison for Kawhi would be the versatile, two-way small forwards and wingmen......

Scottie Pippen

Paul Pressey


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Also the young Boris Diaw, point forward, could be in the conversation.......
Grant Hill

Sean Elliott

Bruce Bowen


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And of course, the Two Immortals, Larry Bird and Lebron James.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcETLV8z3zo

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Omg, I just realized, Paul Pressey was the Precursor to Kawhi Leonard...............!!!

[cutewizard]

Meanwhile, this human is in a class of his own, hahahahahahaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj-jo6oP9ik

[cutewizard]

Imagine a line-up of Shaq at center, Rodman and Leonard at forwards, hahahahahahaha

[cutewizard]

Rodman rulesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

Hahahahahahaha!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwbI15Ucl8s

[duncan2k5]

Anyone who thinks kobe is clutch lacks credibility

[hater]

Bumpity Bump

[bic50]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

Kobe wouldn't have been locked down by fucking Ennis, nor Carter, in fact was never locked down by Carter, not even the prime one.

Don't get me wrong, I like Kawhi. But he doesn't belong to the same sentence as Kobe Bryant, who I have always hated, but as a basketball player (in his prime) was the best out there and would have scored 40+ on this Grizz team...
Kawhi scored 40+ on this grizz team

[hater]

Kawhi scored 40+ on this grizz team

Kawhi looking better than prime Kobe IMHO

[TheDoctor]

Someone should ask Pau he played with both of them in their primes.

Actually SAEN asked him. He basically said that he can't compare them yet as Kawhi hasn't won anything as the Alpha.