Game 3 Thread: Spurs @Grizz (8:30 PM CT/4:30 Riga/TNT) Sponsored By Getting Rook'd

[RD2191]

You're crazy lol. He went to the finals with Moe Williams as the second best player. Yes they got swept by the Spurs. I'm just saying there's no way he's better than him right now, LeBron is going to go down as a top 3 player ever. Let's see what Kawhi will do I'm rooting for him.

How will it ever be a fair comparison? Kawhi will never join two stars in their primes, if he did I bet he'd win more than 2 rings. (Should've been 1)

[FkLA]

It's gotta be emasculating for the players to have Pop pull some shit like that in a playoff game. I too can't get over how egotistical that move was. Mind blowing honestly.

[bklynspursfan]

Want to put money on it?

He would never. I wish he would he would be broke. Dude is absolutely terrible with his "predicitions"

[noles1983]

Yep. That's what Kerr said a month or so ago, and it set off ST.

Not sure why everyone gets mad at that, this team is pretty fucking average without Kawhi on his game. We have the shittiest collection of guards in the league, an old ass center and a soft PF.

[Chinook]

Cue the "this loss means more than it does" posts.


queue the "expected loss" posts.

Nevermind.

[bklynspursfan]

Marc Gasol is still in lmao!

[kaji157]

I doubt Pop will can Manu entirely but he's gone scoreless 3 games now and Simmons, Murray and Kyle have all scored, Bertans has scored. Etc.

It's obvious that Spurs need Tony to play well too, and they probably need some of these young players too.

Don't worry. Manu will be fine, Simmons will continue a scrub and Murray won't see significant minutes again in the playoffs unless it's a blowout. =)

[rasuo214]

Wasnt just the defense. Everybody not named Kawhi shit the bed tonight. Just did not show up focused whatsoever. This game was lost befor it started. Time to regroup and that was back in game four.

It wasn't just the defense but they can't allow 2 quarters of the Grizzlies making 60+ % of their shots. Defense was key in winning the first 2 games and it has been the key to the Spurs success this season.

[Darius Bieber]

And when they do, will you turn into a normal poster? Or reveal who you are really a fan of?

They won't win, stop being delusional.

[cutewizard]

bertans should have been inserted earlier

[Hoops Czar]

And they should.

Blame Pop for having the so-called best bench in the league and utilizing them? The bench only lost 6 points on the deficit during that 3rd quarter span. The starters came back and completely shit the bed offensively and defensively. I don't think you can blame Pop because the team didn't come to play.

[SpurPadre]

No other coach would ever do that. And I dont ever remember younger Pop doing it either. He's arguably the GOAT but it's getting to his fucking head.

He treated the game as if it were game 83 not a playoff game.

[FkLA]

Wasnt just the defense. Everybody not named Kawhi shit the bed tonight. Just did not show up focused whatsoever. This game was lost befor it started. Time to regroup and that was back in game four.

Kawhi deserves some blame for his passiveness in the second half. That's when a guy like him has to make himself present, to prevent the lead from ballooning. If anyone showed fight in the second half it was LMA.

[bklynspursfan]

Blame Pop for having the so-called best bench in the league and utilizing them? The bench only lost 6 points on the deficit during that 3rd quarter span. The starters came back and completely shit the bed offensively and defensively. I don't think you can blame Pop because the team didn't come to play.

Truth..

[apalisoc_9]

It's gotta be emasculating for the players to have Pop pull some shit like that in a playoff game. I too can't get over how egotistical that move was. Mind blowing honestly.

Probably realized kawhi was getting love so had to remind everyone who the star of the team is...

[BillMc]

Marc Gasol is still in lmao!

That should tell us something.

[bklynspursfan]

They won't win, stop being delusional.

Scared to make a commitment ... not surprising TBH. Your track record is pretty bad

[cutewizard]

well come back, memphis cannot possibly win more than a game i think

[DPG21920]

Bertans showing out

[bklynspursfan]

Fizz about to bring the starters back

[dabom]

I was going to go to sleep but I had to watch murray.

[cutewizard]

Kawhi deserves some blame for his passiveness in the second half. That's when a guy like him has to make himself present, to prevent the lead from ballooning. If anyone showed fight in the second half it was LMA.


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yap LMA brought it tonite

[emanueldavidginobili]

How will it ever be a fair comparison? Kawhi will never join two stars in their primes, if he did I bet he'd win more than 2 rings. (Should've been 1)
Nobody wins it by themselves. Kawhi needs to get a legit sidekick but he's young so he has a lot of time to make his case I'm just saying Kawhi needs to become more of a vocal leader and a better playmaker because LeBron is light years better than him in those categories but he's improving, he has some more work to do.

[DPG21920]

:lmao Dedmon scoring before manu

[BatManu20]

Mood.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C96JyWOVwAAZB4L?format=jpg&name=large

[sasaint]

Very nice pass from Dijon to Deadman.

[bklynspursfan]

Also, aside from our terrible defense, FT Shooting has been terrible

[DPG21920]

Come on Dedmon, don't make me look like a dick

[Chinook]

Blame Pop for having the so-called best bench in the league and utilizing them? The bench only lost 6 points on the deficit during that 3rd quarter span. The starters came back and completely shit the bed offensively and defensively. I don't think you can blame Pop because the team didn't come to play.

First, yes you can blame Pop for the team coming out flat. He can't get credit for "I want some nasty" but no blame for "I didn't mean that kind of nasty."

Second, you can blame Pop for going to a bench that hadn't played well all game just because they had two TOs. I though he was going to bench Dedmon only for that shit. But nope. Whole team, including the only two players who had shown anything up to that point.

[mclinejr]

Could this be a less than10 point loss?

[dabom]

:lmao Dedmon scoring before porker

[Trill Clinton]

tony and manu should have just retired with timmy.

[DPG21920]

tony and manu should have just retired with timmy.

TP is a huge reason why SA has 2 wins.

[bklynspursfan]

Enjoy this win tonight Grizzlies... last win of the season

[SPURt]

Please let this be the worst play this post season

[mclinejr]

On to the next.

[DPG21920]

Wrong again Dabom

[cutewizard]

gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggoooo Spurs, win the fourth game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cutewizard]

we got this, SPURS always and forever........................!

[SAGirl]

Where the hell did that come from Kyle
He wasn't playing in the rotation the entire season so he has limited opportunities and he plays with very high usage players.

[sasaint]

Not sure why everyone gets mad at that, this team is pretty fucking average without Kawhi on his game. We have the shittiest collection of guards in the league, an old ass center and a soft PF.

We headed into the season with a guard rotation that was questionable at best, and Pop chose not to develop Dijon.

[FkLA]

Blame Pop for having the so-called best bench in the league and utilizing them? The bench only lost 6 points on the deficit during that 3rd quarter span. The starters came back and completely shit the bed offensively and defensively. I don't think you can blame Pop because the team didn't come to play.

9 point deficit to 15 point deficit is a big fucking deal. Spot them another 6 points for what, so he can stroke his ego? I don't care how good the bench is, they aren't going to go toe-to-toe with a playoff teams starting line-up. Especially without a productive Manu.

[ElNono]

Pressers

http://www.nba.com/live1/

[sasaint]

TP is a huge reason why SA has 2 wins.

Undeniably. That is unfortunate, too, because he cannot sustain that level of play, as we saw tonight. If he plays 2 good games for every poor one, maybe we can make some noise.

[FkLA]

He treated the game as if it were game 83 not a playoff game.


Probably realized kawhi was getting love so had to remind everyone who the star of the team is...

It really is sickening, tbh.

[rasuo214]

Not sure why everyone gets mad at that, this team is pretty fucking average without Kawhi on his game. We have the shittiest collection of guards in the league, an old ass center and a soft PF.

That's average?

[VBM]

Parker and Ginobili - $28,445,313, 0 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists tonight http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/0/820c668d82199d74a16d0f5728a6ae79.png?t=1452293173

[kaji157]

Terrible defense, awfull FT shooting, worst performance of the season by Tony and Danny together. Still lost by 11.

Bye bye Memphis, at least we´ll close out at home.

Let´s hope OKC can win a few games so we have rest.

[ElNono]

Parker and Ginobili - $28,445,313, 0 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists tonight http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/0/820c668d82199d74a16d0f5728a6ae79.png?t=1452293173

And Manu had the 2 assists....

[TheGreatYacht]

That Murray, Simmons, Anderson, Bertans unit NEEDS more minutes.

Youth is exactly what this team needs against this slow ass pace

[sasaint]

He wasn't playing in the rotation the entire season so he has limited opportunities and he plays with very high usage players.

Still an aggressive play that showed more athleticism than Kyle has shown before, you must admit. Give me more!

[noles1983]

nm

[daslicer]

Parker and Ginobili - $28,445,313, 0 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists tonight http://www.thecoli.com/data/emoticons/0/820c668d82199d74a16d0f5728a6ae79.png?t=1452293173

:lol Seems like a Kobe deal contract wise.

[noles1983]

That's average?

Todays NBA :lol

[DPG21920]

Undeniably. That is unfortunate, too, because he cannot sustain that level of play, as we saw tonight. If he plays 2 good games for every poor one, maybe we can make some noise.

True. Especially when Mills/Manu really aren't doing much either. Very tough to have that many guards play poorly. We need one playing well every game at least. If we get 2, then we will be very tough to beat.

[sasaint]

And Manu had the 2 assists....

I'll say this: at least you are loyal! Where are you from in Argentina - BA?

[ElNono]

I'll say this: at least you are loyal! Where are you from in Argentina - BA?

I have family in BA

[sasaint]

tony and manu should have just retired with timmy.

Tony will not leave $15MM on the table.

[SAGirl]

We headed into the season with a guard rotation that was questionable at best, and Pop chose not to develop Dijon.
Pop's only move was to commit to develop Simmons, who IMO is the worst prospect of the foursome of Simmons/Anderson/Murray/Bertans.
Maybe he did that bc he's in a contract year and he must know whether he must be reupped or not, whereas the others are younger and under contract for cheap for more seasons, but it was a bad call.

At this point, Simmons shaky play is more than Manu has given in the series and Murray's 7 minutes were better than the 18 than Tony gave.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Grizzlies shoot 50.6% from the field in this game. They shoot 43.5% on the season (Last in the NBA). I doubt this will happen again in this series.

[Horse]

Hilarious these announcers think this loss had anything to do with Memphis

[sasaint]

True. Especially when Mills/Manu really aren't doing much either. Very tough to have that many guards play poorly. We need one playing well every game at least. If we get 2, then we will be very tough to beat.

I would say it this way: If none of the guards play well, we are in big trouble. If 1 plays well, we have a puncher's chance - as long as the front court plays up to par. If 2 play well, then we can compete with the best teams, even the Dubs.

[DPG21920]

Fiz so chipper today.

[sasaint]

Pop's only move was to commit to develop Simmons, who IMO is the worst prospect of the foursome of Simmons/Anderson/Murray/Bertans.
Maybe he did that bc he's in a contract year and he must know whether he must be reupped or not, whereas the others are younger and under contract for cheap for more seasons, but it was a bad call.

At this point, Simmons shaky play is more than Manu has given in the series and Murray's 7 minutes were better than the 18 than Tony gave.

Simmons was the most athletic, which is paradoxical because it is not the most athletic guy who generates Pop's interest. Frankly, with Manu so obviously done, Simmons may now get a few meaningful minutes in this series - for better or worse. Kyle showed me something tonight. His first stint went poorly. But he had the mental toughness to come back in late and play with confidence. He was pretty loose - almost like the old summer league days. This may jump start him for next season - if not these playoffs.

[SAGirl]

Don't worry. Manu will be fine, Simmons will continue a scrub and Murray won't see significant minutes again in the playoffs unless it's a blowout. =)
I don't know how you can be so cavalier about it.
If Simmons was a scrub, so was Manu, and Tony this game, and a few others and I am not even that hot on Simmons.

[GSH]

That was exactly how I said the Grizzlies could beat the Spurs. Play very physical, ugly the game up, and figure that the zebras can't call them all. It didn't help that the Spurs missed a BUNCH of shots they should have made, and missed 12 damn FT's.

That inbounds play at the beginning of the second half. Looked to me like that ball was supposed to go to Kawhi, and he just got pancaked on the end line. That was the beginning of an avalanche. I thought the refs reacted to Fizdale and the crowd several times tonight, but I now that Memphis got it's "makeup game", I don't expect it to happen next game.

A lot of things had to fall together just right for this night to happen.

[GSH]

I don't know how you can be so cavalier about it.
If Simmons was a scrub, so was Manu, and Tony this game, and a few others and I am not even that hot on Simmons.

Simmons tied for the AST lead tonight, had no TO's, and was 2-3 from 3P. If the Spurs could get that from him every night, it would improve their chances this postseason considerably. He sure as hell wasn't any of the problem tonight.

We really need some of those flashes of greatness from Manu. He hasn't shown any signs so far, and that's a damn shame. He's still got the will, but it's really looking like he can't keep up with the young guys now.

[UZER]

That was exactly how I said the Grizzlies could beat the Spurs. Play very physical, ugly the game up, and figure that the zebras can't call them all. It didn't help that the Spurs missed a BUNCH of shots they should have made, and missed 12 damn FT's.

That inbounds play at the beginning of the second half. Looked to me like that ball was supposed to go to Kawhi, and he just got pancaked on the end line. That was the beginning of an avalanche. I thought the refs reacted to Fizdale and the crowd several times tonight, but I now that Memphis got it's "makeup game", I don't expect it to happen next game.

A lot of things had to fall together just right for this night to happen.

Refs definitively got caught up in it. Especially the 4 or 5 and-1 plays in like a 3-4 min span in the 3rd.

[kaji157]

I don't know how you can be so cavalier about it.
If Simmons was a scrub, so was Manu, and Tony this game, and a few others and I am not even that hot on Simmons.

Of course they were. I am just telling you what will most likely happen in the future based on how the season went.

[SAGirl]

Simmons tied for the AST lead tonight, had no TO's, and was 2-3 from 3P. If the Spurs could get that from him every night, it would improve their chances this postseason considerably. He sure as hell wasn't any of the problem tonight.

We really need some of those flashes of greatness from Manu. He hasn't shown any signs so far, and that's a damn shame. He's still got the will, but it's really looking like he can't keep up with the young guys now.
If anything.... I know guys are pissed off that Pop put the bench in, but he was getting nothing from either Manu or TP, and Manu for 3 games in a row is not showing signs of life.

It will be shocking if mid-playoffs Pop needs to move on and play any combination of these guys more, but I sure am glad Simmons, Anderson, Bertans and Murray took advantage of the chance they got and played well to end that game. They didn't fold over and play dead fish out of the water.
:toast:flag:
One doesn't know where this playoff run will finish but I was encouraged by their play. They actually even moved the ball better as a group and looked for each other better than the starters... even though on defense they made mistakes.

[TDomination]

It felt like Spurs just simply wanted to lose. Dont get me wrong, Memphis did what they needed and got physical. But it's still the Spurs series to lose. And tbh, no spur championship team has swept a team in the first round. Adversity in the first round seems to usually help. Hopefully they bounce back.

[Robz4000]

So what did Pop say postgame?

[apalisoc_9]

So what did Pop say postgame?

There's undiscovered Planets out there

[Fireball]

that went as expected ... backdoor sweep coming up

[cutewizard]

Cleveland vs the Bucks would be a hell of a series................!!!!

[Robz4000]

The more I read up on the Spurs' end after this the more concerned I am. It legitimately sounds like Pop might be losing the locker room (including Tony and Manu). Pop has gone full senile.

[cutewizard]

Might take the arrival of Lebron himself to save us, hahahahahahaha

[NameLess Scrub]

Refs definitively got caught up in it. Especially the 4 or 5 and-1 plays in like a 3-4 min span in the 3rd.

What I keep asking myself is if the refs are that easy to manipulate, or they just actually give make up games.

The crowd was pretty pumped from the start and had even some type of merch with quotes of Fiz's rant. They were booing hard every call the Spurs got. Memphis players seem to protest everything as well.

All of a sudden Zbo goes back in time. I wonder if in a regular game he would have gotten a couple of 3 second violations or traveling calls for his great amount of footwork tonight.

And they can make and-1s every play? :lol

Maybe it was just coincidence, but with all the ranting and hyping that went on the past days I guess its normal we have doubts.

Let's hope the Spurs bounce back as we hope and this is a 4-1 series.

[DPG21920]

The more I read up on the Spurs' end after this the more concerned I am. It legitimately sounds like Pop might be losing the locker room (including Tony and Manu). Pop has gone full senile.

Manu has 0. ZERO points after 3 playoff games. He should be lucky Pop lets him on the bus. Pop has to try something (even though I think it was stupid to bench everyone). But Manu needed to be benched. Hopefully this lights a fire.

[MaNu4Tres]

Manu has 0. ZERO points after 3 playoff games. He should be lucky Pop lets him on the bus. Pop has to try something (even though I think it was stupid to bench everyone). But Manu needed to be benched. Hopefully this lights a fire.

Manu should have retired last year. However, he's not a starter and an outlier these days. Less pressure on him to perform.

Parker is still starting and the success of the Spurs is still tied heavily to how he plays because Pop is still starting him and playing him 25 minutes a night.

I'd prefer Manu retire this off-season and Parker retire next offseason. Both have more bad games than good. Can't rely on either against better competition.

[TampaDude]

Pop don't care anymore...

Oh, well, Spurs in 7.

[SAGirl]

The more I read up on the Spurs' end after this the more concerned I am. It legitimately sounds like Pop might be losing the locker room (including Tony and Manu). Pop has gone full senile.
Why do you think he's losing Tony and Manu?

[DPG21920]

Manu should have retired last year. However, he's not a starter and an outlier these days. Less pressure on him to perform.

Parker is still starting and the success of the Spurs is still tied heavily to how he plays because Pop is still starting him and playing him 25 minutes a night.

I'd prefer Manu retire this off-season and Parker retire next offseason. Both have more bad games than good. Can't rely on either against better competition.

Probably true, but I'm not throwing the dirt on either yet.

1. TP has had more good games in these playoffs than bad.

2. While Manu has been bad, the first two games he contributed in many ways other than scoring. Last game he was just flat out awful. However, Manu is very match up dependent and we knew that he struggled badly vs MEM. HOU should be a much better match up and I expect Manu to look much better vs them.

If TP just derails and stops having good games and Manu never bounces back vs better match ups, then I will agree.

[MaNu4Tres]

Probably true, but I'm not throwing the dirt on either yet.

1. TP has had more good games in these playoffs than bad.

2. While Manu has been bad, the first two games he contributed in many ways other than scoring. Last game he was just flat out awful. However, Manu is very match up dependent and we knew that he struggled badly vs MEM. HOU should be a much better match up and I expect Manu to look much better vs them.

If TP just derails and stops having good games and Manu never bounces back vs better match ups, then I will agree.

1. True, but how much can we go off that based on just three games?
The past 3 playoff runs, hell the past three seasons..Tony has had more bad regular seasin games and bad playoff games than good. Three game sample, as you know, is very small. Manu likely wont continue his horrible play and he'll progress to his marginal mean. And based on recent history, Parker wont have 2 good games for every bad one. Parker was bound to regress after his first two games and I wouldn't be surprised if its the same story with him game 4.

Parker better produce whatever good games he can while he can, before Pat Bev checkd him into the hospice facility next weekend. Kidding aside, hes had a great career, but TP is no longer consistent enough to be an important piece. Even if his play after 2 good games so far may suggest hes more consistent than im implying...I know better.

[Thomas82]

That was exactly how I said the Grizzlies could beat the Spurs. Play very physical, ugly the game up, and figure that the zebras can't call them all. It didn't help that the Spurs missed a BUNCH of shots they should have made, and missed 12 damn FT's.

That inbounds play at the beginning of the second half. Looked to me like that ball was supposed to go to Kawhi, and he just got pancaked on the end line. That was the beginning of an avalanche. I thought the refs reacted to Fizdale and the crowd several times tonight, but I now that Memphis got it's "makeup game", I don't expect it to happen next game.

A lot of things had to fall together just right for this night to happen.


I feel the same way......and like another poster said earlier, if we can't get anything from our guards, it's a wrap for us.

[DPG21920]

1. True, but how much can we go off that based on just three games?
The past 3 playoff runs, hell the past three seasons..Tony has had more bad regular seasin games and bad playoff games than good. Three game sample, as you know, is very small. Manu likely wont continue his horrible play and he'll progress to his marginal mean. And based on recent history, Parker wont have 2 good games for every bad one. Parker was bound to regress after his first two games and I wouldn't be surprised if its the same story with him game 4.

Parker better produce whatever good games he can while he can, before Pat Bev checkd him into the hospice facility next weekend. Kidding aside, hes had a great career, but TP is no longer consistent enough to be an important piece. Even if his play after 2 good games so far may suggest hes more consistent than im implying...I know better.

I agree. Said you were probably right but there has been enough so far to warrant some optimism even if we know the likely outcome.

[SASdynasty!]

that went as expected ... backdoor sweep coming up
Haha...Spurs win one, "sweep!" ... Grizz win one, "backdoor sweep!"

[hoopdreams11]

why pop manu and Anderson in

[hoopdreams11]

can we see Bertans

[Rummpd]

How are Spurs even in game 4 - 16 vs 10 -20 on threes

[weeks]

stfu lebron takes 3 steps all the time faggots

[Uriel]

KaWOW

[DAF86]

I'm drunk as fuck on a party but I just had to come and say that Kawhi kid is a fucking monster.

[Uriel]

Jesus.

[noles1983]

.

[Uriel]

Wow.

[Fireball]

Haha...Spurs win one, "sweep!" ... Grizz win one, "backdoor sweep!"

looking good, isn't it?