Manu is unplayable against the Grizzlies

[$pursDynasty]

I didn't already see this thread but Lord knows I don't want to see him on the court again unless it's a blow out and even then let the younglings get more run. Manu's best option now is taking over Patty's towel waving. We win game 4 if he never checks in.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bryn Forbes is a shot maker and he's in a suit because this Venezuelan wants to feel young again SMDH

[duncan2k5]

Simmons needs ALL of manu's minutes, tbh...

[testies]

he should've taken the buzzer beater shot

[$pursDynasty]

Give him a custom tailored suit, Patty's towel and a seat at the end of the bench

[BatManu20]

Manu's confidence is shot this series. His jumpers aren't even close. I hope he had one redemption game in him this series though, bc Pop is going to continue to give him some minutes.

[kaji157]

Playing with no fire he is unplayable for good.
He either regains his fire, or retire.

[DarrinS]

Tony fans rub one out for the demise of a Spurs legend. Congrats.

[DPG21920]

Manu sucks unfortunately - while he's been bad vs MEM this is a shocking turn of events.

[rudwick]

Give him a custom tailored suit, Patty's towel and a seat at the end of the bench

This

[Mikeanaro]

You cant miss shots 4 games in a row, thank god he doesnt play a lot of minutes.

[DarrinS]

Manu sucks unfortunately - while he's been bad vs MEM this is a shocking turn of events.

When the end comes, sometimes it comes fast. I've seen it happen to so many players.

[cd98]

Grizz aren't doing anything special. Manu has open looks. He's just missing. He and Green are in 3 point shooting slumps.

[SASdynasty!]

he should've taken the buzzer beater shot
Pop has given him the keys far too many times when he's playing like garbage. Once every 5 times or so he'll make a game winner.

[BillMc]

I kid you not, I'd rather see Davis or Kyle out there than Manu. And Manu is my second favorite Spur EVER behind Timmy.

[larrychen21]

He unplayable against any teams in the playoffs...didn't you see how he shoot the open 3s? He has been handing over possessions to opponents by attempting these open 3s

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I think you give Manu one more half and if he doesnt produce in Game 5 you pull him till the next series, it must be mental or something.

[noles1983]

If we cant play him vs an almost .500 team, a team that is average on their best day, when can we play him?

[noles1983]

I think you give Manu one more half and if he doesnt produce in Game 5 you pull him till the next series, it must be mental or something.

assuming these fucking spurs actually avoid the upset. Otherwise we just sit him for the rest of his career technically.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

If we cant play him vs an almost .500 team, a team that is average on their best day, when can we play him?

He could be effective against the Rockets, they literally dont play defense.

[DMC]

When the end comes, sometimes it comes fast. I've seen it happen to so many players.

Jason Kidd didn't hit a shot in his last playoffs in NY. He fell off a cliff. Manu will be a head coach soon, just like Kidd, and a good one.

[gambit1990]

part of what's so wild is that his shots have looked so off.

at same time, manu has never been known as a shooter... would MUCH rather see manu pick and rolls with kawhi/dedmon than him shooting threes.

[tmtcsc]

I didn't already see this thread but Lord knows I don't want to see him on the court again unless it's a blow out and even then let the younglings get more run. Manu's best option now is taking over Patty's towel waving. We win game 4 if he never checks in.

Manu had a rough, rough game. He couldn't make a shot and his defense was terrible. He lost shooters on at least 2 occasions that resulted in 3's. Rookie mistakes from a long time vet. Sad to see.

[UZER]

part of what's so wild is that his shots have looked so off.

at same time, manu has never been known as a shooter... would MUCH rather see manu pick and rolls with kawhi/dedmon than him shooting threes.

Have you seen his PNR passes lately? They've been straight to the grizzlies.

[Darius Bieber]

Would rather see Forbes chucking up Manu's shots.

[Arcadian]

Free Forbes

[SAGirl]

I didn't already see this thread but Lord knows I don't want to see him on the court again unless it's a blow out and even then let the younglings get more run. Manu's best option now is taking over Patty's towel waving. We win game 4 if he never checks in.
Agreed.

[weeks]

i love manu, probably my favorite spur ever behind timmy.
there is no shame in losing to father time. the observation that he looks completely washed feels harsh, but sports are one of the few environments that leave no room for sentiment.
it's just shocking. I know they say the end comes slowly, then abruptly...but this is soo bad and sudden, it feels surreal.

trolling aside, i don't think anyone can take any pleasure in this.

[weeks]

that said, i got $14 million reasons to say 'fuck brett brown'

[spurs1990]

Any hope his game meshes with the flow of a Rockets series?

I don't even mind losing to Houston at this point but I need to see Manu Ginobili finish his season (career) on anything higher than this 0-fer vs Memphis.
A player of his contribution doesn't deserve to go out on such a flimsy note.

[$pursDynasty]

PtR pissing me off with a, "the time is ripe for a classic manu game 5", when I am thinking the time is right to permanently assign Manu's butt to the bench for the remainder of this series.

[UZER]

PtR pissing me off with a, "the time is ripe for a classic manu game 5", when I am thinking the time is right to permanently assign Manu's butt to the bench for the remainder of this series.

He might have one, and pull Pop back in. Then he will get minutes in game 6 and proceed to pass the ball to the grizzlies.

[MultiTroll]

Truth be told Manu had some kick ass plays that most definitely added to the momentum and thus win in Game 1 (or 2 I can't remember).
Had a kick ass steal and assist on the same play for a 4 point swing.

It's up to CIA Popped to regulate Manu and Porker.
When he doesn't, you see the results. :depressed

[TheGreatYacht]

Truth be told Manu had some kick ass plays that most definitely added to the momentum and thus win in Game 1 (or 2 I can't remember).
Had a kick ass steal and assist on the same play for a 4 point swing.

It's up to CIA Popped to regulate Manu and Porker.
When he doesn't, you see the results. :depressed midnightpulp Splits

:cry but he dove for the ball! :cry

[Pocho La Pantera]

midnightpulp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5430) Splits (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=24583)

:cry but he dove for the ball! :cry
Pathetic calling for his buddies.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

He's nurturing the younger players

[apalisoc_9]

He's nurturing the younger players
SAGirl

[sasaint]

PtR pissing me off with a, "the time is ripe for a classic manu game 5", when I am thinking the time is right to permanently assign Manu's butt to the bench for the remainder of this series.

What needs to be done, but not likely.


He might have one, and pull Pop back in. Then he will get minutes in game 6 and proceed to pass the ball to the grizzlies.

More likely - but the odds are low.

[SAGirl]

He's nurturing the younger players


SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524)

He probably is teaching... and brought value in the locker room.. and he had games in the season he pulled from the depths ... he had as good of a season as one can expect from a 39 year old... but it's time.
At some point those younger players need to get a looser leash and Manu needs to be the one getting the short hook and it's happening in the playoffs which I can't imagine it's fun for him.
Manu in the 2015 postseason:
23% Usg: 17.9 PER

Manu in 2016 postseason:
15.6% usg: 16.5 PER

Manu in 2017 postseason:
14.4% usg: -1.5 PER

PER is not the best stat but it's just an idea for illustrative purposes of how sharp/steep/sudden he's declined... his usage in the postseason has been declining too. In the regular season his usage would be high... around 20% or higher, to then be reduced in the postseason, as he can't get by anyone. It was counterproductive to have him with that high usage as he's surely taking possessions others could have used to develop.

Currently and up to this point:
Simmons:
15.5% usg: 20 PER
Anderson
17.4% usg: 18.1 PER

Murray's numbers are better than Manu as well, but he only played a short time of garbage time in Game 3 so I am omitting him. If we go by performance, Manu needs to be benched in favor of a younger player. Some of those players like Dijon barely played in the RS and could have used the playing time.

Maybe Manu will bounce back... but I expected that in game 4 already.

[Splits]

He probably is teaching... and brought value in the locker room.. and he had games in the season he pulled from the depths ... he had as good of a season as one can expect from a 39 year old... but it's time.
At some point those younger players need to get a looser leash and Manu needs to be the one getting the short hook and it's happening in the playoffs which I can't imagine it's fun for him.
Manu in the 2015 postseason:
23% Usg: 17.9 PER

Manu in 2016 postseason:
15.6% usg: 16.5 PER

Manu in 2017 postseason:
14.4% usg: -1.5 PER

PER is not the best stat but it's just an idea for illustrative purposes of how sharp/steep/sudden he's declined... his usage in the postseason has been declining too. In the regular season his usage would be high... around 20% or higher, to then be reduced in the postseason, as he can't get by anyone. It was counterproductive to have him with that high usage as he's surely taking possessions others could have used to develop.

Currently and up to this point:
Simmons:
15.5% usg: 20 PER
Anderson
17.4% usg: 18.1 PER

Murray's numbers are better than Manu as well, but he only played a short time of garbage time in Game 3 so I am omitting him. If we go by performance, Manu needs to be benched in favor of a younger player. Some of those players like Dijon barely played in the RS and could have used the playing time.

Maybe Manu will bounce back... but I expected that in game 4 already.

:wow

Gottdam your posts get me so horny

[mookie2001]

This OP should be everyone's creedo and maxim.