Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[bklynspursfan]

I hope so, but all signs point to sticking with the status-quo. They'll stay loyal to TP, Manu, Gasol, and look like they're stuck with Aldridge. They'll win 60 games and lose to the Warriors, and I think they're okay with that.

What signs point to that tho? free agency hasn't even started

[picnroll]

People bitching about paying players past their primes give it up. It's a fact of life with all these half decent players. They line up their contracts so the last ones go to 35 - 36 and those players are mostly the only ones available.

[TimDunkem]

What signs point to that tho? free agency hasn't even started
Gasol wouldn't opt out if he wasn't getting paid, Manu is coming back because he always does, TP isn't going anywhere, and no one wants Aldridge.

[sasaint]

i already said it awhile back... sign livingston instead of hill.

2 years, $16 million instead of 4 years, $70 million.

I am not sure Livingston would sign a 2-year deal.

[Hoops Czar]

Gasol wouldn't opt out if he wasn't getting paid, Manu is coming back because he always does, TP isn't going anywhere, and no one wants Aldridge.
They have no loyalty to Pau though. The Spurs wanted him years back and he chose money over championships. Sure, like most veterans on their last legs, they come crawling back to the Spurs when they're washed up and no good because the Spurs have a tendency to pay old players to not go away. Nothing like the Spurs to hand out more of that undeserved/unjustified free money.

[TD 21]

I appreciate that. I don't think the Redick comparison makes any more sense than the Carroll one. Green has had two opportunities to leave for the highest bidder after having great contract years and didn't. I don't see why he'd decide to go for it this time. It's possible a random team would offer that if he has a third great contract year. But if he requires a deal the Spurs can't/won't match, he'll leave, and that will be fine.



"The Beautiful Game" as you seem to be describing it was a state the offense reached every once in a while. It was not their regular offense those seasons. Their regular offense looked a lot like it does now, but it was quicker and more decisive. Getting back to that state is hardly asking for the moon. They need someone who can run the Zipper Series again (meaning a mid-range PG with wheels) and a big who can hit shots in the post (Leonard could actually do this if the team gets a stretch-big).

Hill is hardly an ideal fit for this type of offense. He fits sort of with Leonard if the team commits to the iso-heavy bogged down execution they've suffered from the last two-and-a-half seasons. If they want to actually start leveraging Kawhi's talent to get good looks, they'll go elsewhere.



It's not Hill at a bit more and a pick for Green. It's Hill locked into a long-term contract over a Green going into a contract year then expiring. The first may or may not be good (like the OKC first Orlando owns is terrible). Even if Green were traded, I'm not keen to offer the money to Hill.

Spurs had legit contender then and Green seemed happier. Also, this will be his last chance to cash in.

It is with Leonard and Murray.

Hill can assist with ball handling/creating, but play off ball too. Leonard is at his best with Mills, a similar but more limited player offensively and a far worse defender.

Yeah, neither is a possibility, but without star back court player in '18 class (minus Thomas, who likely re-signs and I can't see him or Spurs having interest) to pursue and limited trade assets, it's unlikely.

[TimDunkem]

They have no loyalty to Pau though. The Spurs wanted him years back and he chose money over championships. Sure, like most veterans on their last legs, they come crawling back to the Spurs when they're washed up and no good because the Spurs have a tendency to pay old players to not go away. Nothing like the Spurs to hand out more of that undeserved/unjustified free money.
I really think they will. They'll "do right" by Gasol.

[szkorhetz]

Mills would be an outstanding fit for Minny right now.

[objective]

Parker isn't going anywhere, but I hope his fans aren't expecting him to actually play. He'll probably be so much slower and lamer that he'll never play real minutes again.

Won't stop the Spurs from keeping his bloated mess on the books unfortunately.

[sasaint]

I can't stomach it. Make the Tucker and Korver talk go away. :(

Fake talk... I hope.

[Mal]

Not for four years no.

My guess it's 4 years but amount is a mistery

[tonight...you]

This is going to be a fun summer, with you happy-go-lucky cats already running off at the keyboard like meth addicts.

[szkorhetz]

Ezeli is waived. I could see him as a fourth big, TBH.

[TimDunkem]

Ezeli is waived. I could see him as a fourth big, TBH.
Guy can't even stay on the court.

[objective]

Ezeli is waived. I could see him as a fourth big, TBH.

Last I heard his career might be over

[Chinook]

Spurs had legit contender then and Green seemed happier. Also, this will be his last chance to cash in.

And who knows what they'll have in 2018? Much better chance they can get something together without Hill taking up a huge chunk.


It is with Leonard and Murray.

I don't see any justification for this view. The Spurs made it work with a bunch of different players, including Parker and Tim. I don't know how Murray will develop, but I don't see any path he'll take where he'll be starting caliber but not able to play in a motion offense.


Hill can assist with ball handling/creating, but play off ball too. Leonard is at his best with Mills, a similar but more limited player offensively and a far worse defender.

Leonard is at his "best" in the context of he isos the best. Just like Parker PnRs were a temporary state for Tony before Pop installed the Zipper Series, Kawhi is going to have an offense built around him. That's going to involve give-and-take as well as a good bit of adaptation. The Spurs need to increase their talent level, so settling for certain PGs because they can shoot decently from three is not going to move the needle.


Yeah, neither is a possibility, but without star back court player in '18 class (minus Thomas, who likely re-signs and I can't see him or Spurs having interest) to pursue and limited trade assets, it's unlikely.

I'm not sure what this refers to. The Spurs don't need to find a superstar to get better than Hill.

[TimDunkem]

Too bad ST would prefer Hill over him...At least Iggy stays healthy, tbh.
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[Leetonidas]

Too bad ST would prefer Hill over him...At least Iggy stays healthy, tbh.
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:wow

[raybies]

Spurs meeting with iggy tonight. Now just to have a meeting with Millsap ...

[TimDunkem]

Millsap and Iggy, plz

[Hoops Czar]

Too bad ST would prefer Hill over him...At least Iggy stays healthy, tbh.
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Can't shoot and can't make free throws. Not sure what the Spurs plan to do with him but it does explain Buford's sudden departure to LA.

[raybies]

This is where I'm at right now with what I'd like to see

Murray/White/Parker
Leonard/Green/Forbes
Iguodala/Simmons/Blossomgame
Millsap/Anderson/Bertans
Gasol/Milutinov/????

You keep Green. Use cap to sign Andre. 15-18 mill. S&T Aldridge for Millsap, Aldridge going to another team and Atlanta getting a pick from us or other team. Pau Gasol on Mid Level deal. Still have the room exception or bi annual for Hanga or a big and then what's left get another big.

Love the potential of this lineup though. So many guards to throw on others for defense. Small ball lineup would be great and you would have so many options. I get the Iggy age arguments but let's face he's probably gonna want to win and get more money and you want him off GS. Here he starts and can legitimately have a chance at GS to give them a good series. I'm looking at 3 year deals for both.

You could close with Simmons/Green/Leonard/Iggy/Millsap. That lineup would be insane on D and not too shabby on offense.

I've talked myself out of the Hill scenarios cause if you believe Murray is the guard of the future then he needs his space. You have higher upside in Murray and you don't have conflicting rotations.
:wakeup

[emanueldavidginobili]

Andre Iguodala to meet with the Spurs at 1201 est

[r0drig0lac]

Millsap and Iggy, plz

this

[Chinook]

Would be so shit.

[TimDunkem]

Can't shoot and can't make free throws. Not sure what the Spurs plan to do with him but it explains Buford's sudden departure to LA.
He seemed to shoot pretty well against the Cavs, making big time shots. He also guards 4 positions, runs the floor, always plays hard, is still athletic which would get the fatties out of their seats and actually cheering in SA. Plus you weaken the Warriors just slightly. He'd be the best backup Kawhi ever had. Oh, and there's that Warriors insider intel.

[szkorhetz]

Will Igu make us better? I just can't see him giving us an edge over the Warriors, and we already have our Bron stopper.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Too bad ST would prefer Hill over him...At least Iggy stays healthy, tbh.
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Why do I have a nagging suspicion that he's trolling us with no real intent on coming here (not that I'm sure I'm for it myself)?

[TimDunkem]

Will Igu make us better? I just can't see him giving us an edge over the Warriors, and we already have our Bron stopper.
Well...Yeah he makes the Spurs better. And, no, nothing makes you better than the Warriors at the moment.

[r0drig0lac]

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[bklynspursfan]

Gasol wouldn't opt out if he wasn't getting paid, Manu is coming back because he always does, TP isn't going anywhere, and no one wants Aldridge.

Gasol opted out maybe to allow them flexibility. Had he opted in we'd be worse.

Manu may come back, and TP obv is coming back. But LMA can be moved. They can def make changes

[TimDunkem]

Why do I have a nagging suspicion that he's trolling us with no real intent on coming here (not that I'm sure I'm for it myself)?
Doubt he comes here either, but it's a fun thought.

[Nathan89]

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[rjv]

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/06/30/adrian-wojnarowski-the-vertical-espn-nba-free-agency

wonder if he will dump a massive amount of info at 12:01. His Twitter is going to be crazy at that time.

[szkorhetz]

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I'd prefer Gay over Igu, TBH.

[Chinook]

Would much prefer Gay over Iggy. At least Gay would address a perceived need and play the four. Of course, contract really defines my interest in either guy. Gay as a piece to add to the forward rotation makes sense. Iggy as the highest-paid guard on the team really, really doesn't.

[TimDunkem]

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/06/30/adrian-wojnarowski-the-vertical-espn-nba-free-agency

wonder if he will dump a massive amount of info at 12:01. His Twitter is going to be crazy at that time.
Finally a smart move by ESPN. He'll draw in some viewers all by himself.

[Hoops Czar]

He seemed to shoot pretty well against the Cavs, making big time shots. He also guards 4 positions, runs the floor, always plays hard, is still athletic which would get the fatties out of their seats and actually cheering in SA. Plus you weaken the Warriors just slightly. He'd be the best backup Kawhi ever had. Oh, and there's that Warriors insider intel.
He'll also be 34 next season. I'm just not a fan of sloppy seconds and it appears the Warriors, at least to this point, are content with letting him walk.

[TimDunkem]

Would much prefer Gay over Iggy. At least Gay would address a perceived need and play the four. Of course, contract really defines my interest in either guy. Gay as a piece to add to the forward rotation makes sense. Iggy as the highest-paid guard on the team really, really doesn't.
I'll take either, tbh. Kawhi needs a real player backing him up.

[Walter Donovan]

According to tspence, Spurs are planning to heavily pursue Kyle Lowry and/or Gordon Hayward

[TimDunkem]

He'll also be 34 next season. I'm just not a fan of sloppy seconds and it appears the Warriors, at least to this point, are content with letting him walk.
He's not the best option, but still decent. I wouldn't be too upset. He brings fire which this team needs. Seems like the only guys who brought it in the WCF were Simmons, Manu, and Murray.

[szkorhetz]

I'll take either, tbh. Kawhi needs a real player backing him up.
Gay would play the four in the SL, I guess.

[Chinook]

I'll take either, tbh. Kawhi needs a real player backing him up.

Even with the Anderson dig ignored, no max player needs a $15-20 Million player backing him up. I have to think the Spurs are willing to give AI an competitive offer if he's letting them meet with him first.

[TimDunkem]

According to tspence, Spurs are planning to heavily pursue Kyle Lowry and/or Gordon Hayward
LIES! T Spence has been dormant...Probably waiting to drop some bombs tonight. :lmao
https://twitter.com/TylerSpenceRSEN?lang=en

[TimDunkem]

Even with the Anderson dig ignored, no max player needs a $15-20 Million player backing him up. I have to think the Spurs are willing to give AI an competitive offer if he's letting them meet with him first.
It remains to be seen how much he'll be offered. 20 million seems way off...

[Chinook]

It remains to be seen how much he'll be offered. 20 million seems way off...

I love your optimism. That was the number being thrown around earlier in the week.

[loveforthegame]

I thought the Iggy talk was just that. Must be serious if they're meeting him first.

[Walter Donovan]

LIES! T Spence has been dormant...Probably waiting to drop some bombs tonight. :lmao
https://twitter.com/TylerSpenceRSEN?lang=en

Tspence communicates in ways other than twitter, ya know

[TimDunkem]

I love your optimism. That was the number being thrown around earlier in the week.
Well, if you're right, I say no too. :lol

[FkLA]

Not against stacking up on long wings and rolling with 6-5 Murray. I think both Iggy and Gay would flourish in SA. It all depends on the yearly salary and length of the contracts though, obviously.

[Walter Donovan]

I thought the Iggy talk was just that. Must be serious if they're meeting him first.

Hopefully this means Kawhi finally has a real backup

[NASpurs]

Is that why RC flew to LA? To talk to Igoudala? Fuck that. :lol

[Walter Donovan]

Is that why RC flew to LA? To talk to Igoudala? Fuck that. :lol

Or maybe to talk to Blake?

[Nathan89]

Spurs forming a death lineup:rolleyes

[objective]

Iguodala would be so bad a signing, such a waste of resources, that I'm afraid it's real.

No room or need, and bigger issues at point and up front

[noles1983]

Hopefully RC flew with LMA so he can leave his ass in California.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Huge fan of Rudy Gay....

[TimDunkem]

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[NASpurs]

Old ass players in Pau, Manu and Parker's corpses, Igoudala. Let's sign Korver and Dunleavy while we're at it. :wow

[sasaint]

He'll also be 34 next season. I'm just not a fan of sloppy seconds and it appears the Warriors, at least to this point, are content with letting him walk.

Not much of a fan of Spurs' off season moves, huh?

[Chinook]

And I REALLY wanted to trade for Iggy in 2012 when he was leaving Denver. I liked him. But you can't say he makes sense with Kawhi, Simmons, Murray, Parker or LMA. Only good thing is that he'd be replacing Manu, and he'd probably come back anyway.

[cjw]

smh What could've been. He actually wasn't completely terrible.

What's crazier is if Curry hadn't had such a tiny second contract and there hadn't been the money for Durant last summer, the Warriors may have locked him up and been stuck with some dead money now.

[TimDunkem]

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[KDKSpurs24]

Would much prefer Gay over Iggy. At least Gay would address a perceived need and play the four. Of course, contract really defines my interest in either guy. Gay as a piece to add to the forward rotation makes sense. Iggy as the highest-paid guard on the team really, really doesn't.
Team killer.. no thanks.

[HarlemHeat37]

Didn't Rudy Gay just suffer the career-killing Achilles tear?

[sasaint]

According to tspence, Spurs are planning to heavily pursue Kyle Lowry and/or Gordon Hayward

Not if they sign Iggy at 12:01.

[spursistan]

PATFO are giving the impression of being all over the place with their off season plan..Iggy? WTF..Yeah, I want him pried away from GSW, but Spurs should'nt be the team splurging on someone who is likely going to pull an expensive Horry in the regular season for next few years..

Spurs need young star talent with high-upside: a ballsy move would be to go all in for Blake Griffin. The fact that they have not set up a meeting or shown interest is ridiculous..

[Nathan89]

Didn't Rudy Gay just suffer the career-killing Achilles tear?


"Rudy Gay will undergo surgery to repair his ruptured left Achilles tendon on Monday."- Jan 22

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nba/1257/rudy-gay

[Emperor]

If we lose Dedmon watch we replace him with Bogut.

[sasaint]

Old ass players in Pau, Manu and Parker's corpses, Igoudala. Let's sign Korver and Dunleavy while we're at it. :wow

Do it, RC! Do it!

[timtonymanu]

PATFO are giving the impression of being all over the place with their off season plan..Iggy? WTF..Yeah, I want him pried away from GSW, but Spurs should'nt be the team splurging on someone who is likely going to pull an expensive Horry in the regular season for next few years..

Spurs need young star talent with high-upside: a ballsy move would be to go all in for Blake Griffin. The fact that they have not set up a meeting or shown interest is ridiculous..

They're still keeping Parker out of loyalty FFS. Where's that "DUI Buford" pic? We're gonna need to be using it all day tomorrow.

[SPURt]

If the Spurs end up with Iggy and Gay but lose Simmons and run back the same team I'll be dissappointed

[objective]

PATFO are giving the impression of being all over the place with their off season plan..Iggy? WTF..Yeah, I want him pried away from GSW, but Spurs should'nt be the team splurging on someone who is likely going to pull an expensive Horry in the regular season for next few years..

Spurs need young star talent with high-upside: a ballsy move would be to go all in for Blake Griffin. The fact that they have not set up a meeting or shown interest is ridiculous..

Exactly. Kawhi's entering his prime and they want to add a redundant, fading old guy at a no doubt expensive price at their one position of strength.

Just pay Manu if they want an injured over the hill wing, he'll be a lot cheaper.

Someone get the absinthe away from you know who.

[FkLA]

"Rudy Gay will undergo surgery to repair his ruptured left Achilles tendon on Monday."- Jan 22

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nba/1257/rudy-gay

Fuck. That makes it a lot less appealing.

[sasaint]

If the Spurs end up with Iggy and Gay but lose Simmons and run back the same team I'll be dissappointed

I might move back to New Orleans and root for the Pels.

[Nathan89]

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Trade value improving by the second. :flag:

[Nathan89]

Probably going to keep LMA though.

[CGD]

I get the feeling with news out of CLE 1) planning offer to Korver, and 2) Cedí Osman checking in with the team, actually means sign and trade for Danny for those two.

Osman would be a good get.

[cd98]

If we lose Dedmon watch we replace him with Bogut.

Who will replace Bogut three games into next season?

[sasaint]

880933275585269761

Trade value improving by the second. :flag:

So, question: why is this guy just now coming forth with a story about an interview he conducted during the playoffs, instead of immediately after Screamin' Stephen's bomb?

[Emperor]

Who will replace Bogut three games into next season?

Milutinov :lol

[TD 21]

And who knows what they'll have in 2018? Much better chance they can get something together without Hill taking up a huge chunk.



I don't see any justification for this view. The Spurs made it work with a bunch of different players, including Parker and Tim. I don't know how Murray will develop, but I don't see any path he'll take where he'll be starting caliber but not able to play in a motion offense.



Leonard is at his "best" in the context of he isos the best. Just like Parker PnRs were a temporary state for Tony before Pop installed the Zipper Series, Kawhi is going to have an offense built around him. That's going to involve give-and-take as well as a good bit of adaptation. The Spurs need to increase their talent level, so settling for certain PGs because they can shoot decently from three is not going to move the needle.



I'm not sure what this refers to. The Spurs don't need to find a superstar to get better than Hill.

Been over this so many times, but '18 free agent class is terrible and even with ability to absorb salary, no one is salary dumping a game changer.

Spurs made it work around big 3, that had genius level basketball IQ. Sure, they could play in a motion offense again, but it wouldn't look the same. Reality is, they're likely to be ISO heavy because that's the type of player Leonard is and your "system" is ultimately what your best player(s) are.

Neither, as in no Hill or Green in '18, but unlikely they'd not have one without getting a marked upgrade in the back court elsewhere and I don't see where that comes from. In other words, I don't see them not paying one just because they don't like the market value.

[BatManu20]

Old ass players in Pau, Manu and Parker's corpses, Igoudala. Let's sign Korver and Dunleavy while we're at it. :wow

Why not Vince Carter while we're at it.

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

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This is what I expected.
Not surprised and he does need to go after it after his hype after a few playoff games.

[BatManu20]

Jeff Teague likely to Minny apparently.

[SAGirl]

PATFO has been in win-now mode. With all that has happened so far this off-season, they will have to make a decision: jettison Parker to continue in that mode or carry his $15MM carcass and have a serious retooling year. Trying to do both this season seems like complete schizophrenia to me.
:tu let's watch Pop try to do both and accomplish neither.. lol

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

After the Igoudala shit, now I'm warming up to signing Hill if Iggy is the alternative.

[Hoops Czar]

I thought Free agency started tomorrow.

[SpursBig3s]

Would be so shit.


You literally hate hate every single free agent or player linked to the Spurs. What do you want?

[BatManu20]

No more old fucks. Iggy is almost 34 and it showed the last couple years with his injuries starting to pile up. No Korver or Dunleavy either.

[TimDunkem]

No more old fucks. Iggy is almost 34 and it showed the last couple years with his injuries starting to pile up. No Korver or Dunleavy either.
No to Hill then. Guy will be 32 next season.

[Mugen]

They're still keeping Parker out of loyalty FFS. Where's that "DUI Buford" pic? We're gonna need to be using it all day tomorrow.

Sup?

[elemento]

I'm just waiting for the meltdown when ST finds out that RC gave George Hill a 100m contract

[timtonymanu]

Smh korver and Iggy? Spurs still pursuing the youngins from the 2000s

[timtonymanu]

Sup?

Sup Mugen. How's everything, fam?

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDm7I2SXYAAeVHN?format=jpg&name=large

[Mugen]

Sup Mugen. How's everything, fam?

Good bruh. Gonna be around more for the annual ST summer meltdown tbh. You good?

[Mugen]

If only we had that #9 available to give to Iggy tbh :lol

[BillMc]

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Trade value improving by the second. :flag:

That's good to know. Of course, that is before he was roasted for the Dubs series in the media. Hope the reports of his unhappiness are exaggerated whether he stays or goes.

[TimDunkem]

If only we had that #9 available to give to Iggy tbh :lol
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[tonight...you]

LMA, if he should stay, will be a model citizen. He's too much of a puss to outwardly and blatantly make noise.
I don't give an ish what Stephen A says. And neither should you, punks. He may not last on the team, he may be traded before the season, but if he stays on the team- he's going to work his butt off until the heat gets too hot, and isn't that all you can ask for in a pussy?

I don't mind riding this big vag out through his final year. He'll obey. He's wired to obey. He's just a bit whiny and selfish. That's a beta.

They don't trade him... whatevs. They got to the WCF last year and had a snowball's chance (which is more than all, but 1 team can say), before the "hits".

I love me my boy TimDunkem (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16114), but old boy has to be insufferable right now at home, if there is anybody else even around...

Bro, take a chill pill. Just for a few hours before FA starts. You are already worked into a lather and it's only going to get worse from here, baby.

[objective]

Better Hill than iguodala, not even close.

Hill at least plays at a position of need and is a very good 3 point shooter, and younger.

[Hoops Czar]

Better Hill than iguodala, not even close.

Hill at least plays at a position of need and is a very good 3 point shooter, and younger.

How about neither?

[raybies]

If you look at the roster as of today, we have plenty of youth. We do need veterans and who do you want closing? Someone that's been there before or kids. The overreaction here is ridiculous....

Murray/White
Simmona/Forbes
Leonard/Blossomgame
Anderson/Bertans

All under 26 no? Plus Hanga, Milutinov, LaLanne. We need closers.

Yall want rome Rome built in a night. It takes time. Which of these young stars want to come here? PATFO just doing what they always do.

[TimDunkem]

LMA, if he should stay, will be a model citizen. He's too much of a puss to outwardly and blatantly make noise.
I don't give an ish what Stephen A says. And neither should you, punks. He may not last on the team, he may be traded before the season, but if he stays on the team- he's going to work his butt off until the heat gets too hot, and isn't that all you can ask for in a pussy?

I don't mind riding this big vag out through his final year. He'll obey. He's wired to obey. He's just a bit whiny and selfish. That's a beta.

They don't trade him... whatevs. They got to the WCF last year and had a snowball's chance (which is more than all, but 1 team can say), before the "hits".

I love me my boy TimDunkem (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16114), but old boy has to be insufferable right now at home, if there is anybody else even around...

Bro, take a chill pill. Just for a few hours before FA starts. You are already worked into a lather and it's only going to get worse from here, baby.
Nah as I said before, these pessimistic posts are so I DON'T meltdown when the inevitable disappointment begins. :lol

[BatManu20]

No to Hill then. Guy will be 32 next season.

Slightly different. He just turned 31 last month. Still don't want him regardless, but if it's between he and Iggy, I'm taking Hill.

[objective]

How about neither?

Hill would make the team better, more than Parker collecting cash on the bench.

[Chinook]

If you look at the roster as of today, we have plenty of youth. We do need veterans and who do you want closing? Someone that's been there before or kids. The overreaction here is ridiculous....

Murray/White
Simmona/Forbes
Leonard/Blossomgame
Anderson/Bertans

All under 26 no? Plus Hanga, Milutinov, LaLanne. We need closers.

Yall want rome Rome built in a night. It takes time. Which of these young stars want to come here? PATFO just doing what they always do.


Most of those are prospects, and 26 is too fucking old for prospects. Those should be the main rotation, not the third string.

[timtonymanu]

Good bruh. Gonna be around more for the annual ST summer meltdown tbh. You good?

All good as well :tu. Boring time to be following the NBA but ST meltdowns more than make up for it.

[tonight...you]

Nah as I said before, these pessimistic posts are so I DON'T meltdown when the inevitable disappointment begins. :lol
Doomsday prepping? I get it. Just worrying about your well being... I know you are deranged alcoholic with drugs available to you, at all times, at your disposal- wait, that's me. NVM.

I actually haven't disagreed with you all day, and you've posted almost 1000 times today. That's a freaking accomplishment.
Time to take this hit...

I'll be around homie.

[TimDunkem]

LMA, if he should stay, will be a model citizen. He's too much of a puss to outwardly and blatantly make noise.
I don't give an ish what Stephen A says. And neither should you, punks. He may not last on the team, he may be traded before the season, but if he stays on the team- he's going to work his butt off until the heat gets too hot, and isn't that all you can ask for in a pussy?

I don't mind riding this big vag out through his final year. He'll obey. He's wired to obey. He's just a bit whiny and selfish. That's a beta.

They don't trade him... whatevs. They got to the WCF last year and had a snowball's chance (which is more than all, but 1 team can say), before the "hits".

I love me my boy TimDunkem (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16114), but old boy has to be insufferable right now at home, if there is anybody else even around...

Bro, take a chill pill. Just for a few hours before FA starts. You are already worked into a lather and it's only going to get worse from here, baby.
Also, I'm high on Iggy unlike some guys here. I'm not all doom and gloom. :toast

[Hoops Czar]

Hill would make the team better, more than Parker collecting cash on the bench.

In the process, killing financial flexibility in 2018. Wheb's it going to end?

[TimDunkem]

Doomsday prepping? I get it. Just worrying about your well being... I know you are deranged alcoholic with drugs available to you, at all times, at your disposal- wait, that's me. NVM.

I actually haven't disagreed with you all day, and you've posted almost 1000 times today. That's a freaking accomplishment.
Time to take this hit...

I'll be around homie.
We're more alike than you think, tbh

[tonight...you]

Hill would make the team better, more than Parker collecting cash on the bench.
I'm down with neither and let Murray have some growing pains.

[SAGirl]

Iggy to me only makes sense if Danny is still part of a deal we don't know about. That's my take. Not necessarily a bench player for the Spurs.

[rastaspur]

Ok. See ya tonight.

:lol

Well fuck. I was thinking it was Saturday night. I'm a day or two off. Been a rough week. Got off work early. Got that etch a sketch memory going.

[tonight...you]

We're more alike than you think, tbh
I know a fellow outlaw, when I read it.

Internet outlaws are the new Wild West. I can't do what I used to do, 2 decades ago. Shit always gets caught, with cellphone cams and surveillance so now it's the internet and that's about to end too.

Good luck, all you young outlaws. I was a shit-ton easier, back in the day. Now I just write about it... much safer.

[raybies]

I'm down with neither and let Murray have some growing pains.
Yup. With white and Murray and Parker coming back it doesn't make sense to add a point. But if you surround these two with vets and put them in a situation to succeed, it's like Dak Prescott with the Cowboys and that offensive line. Murray surrounded by vets is a great situation.

[tonight...you]

:lol

Well fuck. I was thinking it was Saturday night. I'm a day or two off. Been a rough week. Got off work early. Got that etch a sketch memory going.
My main man... Felt the hook and it immediately dragged you in.
This place is the True gateway drug.

[rastaspur]

:lol Yeah, midnight can't get here soon enough.

I'm a few days off. Jesus christ.

I had a taco moment. Been on that damn e.b.d.b. prime too long today.

[TimDunkem]

I know a fellow outlaw, when I read it.

Internet outlaws are the new Wild West. I can't do what I used to do, 2 decades ago. Shit always gets caught, with cellphone cams and surveillance so now it's the internet and that's about to end too.

Good luck, all you young outlaws. I was a shit-ton easier, back in the day. Now I just write about it... much safer.The West is closing...Gotta' be a shit heel while you still can.

[tonight...you]

Yup. With white and Murray and Parker coming back it doesn't make sense to add a point. But if you surround these two with vets and put them in a situation to succeed, it's like Dak Prescott with the Cowboys and that offensive line. Murray surrounded by vets is a great situation.
Damn straight. Let this kid have his failures and screamed at by Pop on the court. He will grow. All he wants to do is grow.

[tonight...you]

The West is closing...Gotta' be a shit heel while you still can.
That the Truthnocity... Sad.

[TimDunkem]

I'd prefer they throw Murray into the fire like TP, tbh. Would much rather see the Spurs upgrade the wings and front court.

[TimDunkem]

Slightly different. He just turned 31 last month. Still don't want him regardless, but if it's between he and Iggy, I'm taking Hill.
Not me. At least Iggy can stay on the court. Still more athletic too. That isn't going to decline right away unless he hurts himself.

[SAGirl]

He's not the best option, but still decent. I wouldn't be too upset. He brings fire which this team needs. Seems like the only guys who brought it in the WCF were Simmons, Manu, and Murray.
You forget Kyle but I expect that.

[TimDunkem]

You forget Kyle but I expect that.
You know we're always going to disagree on this front. :lol

[objective]

I am not so much pro Hill as anti-Parker and anti-Mills and anti-Iguodala

[tonight...you]

You forget Kyle but I expect that.
I really, really hope Anderson builds upon everything he's been doing and just brings it next year. His shot is faster (which was my main complaint), he's got Diaw-lite skills and it would truly be in his best interests if he just let his balls drop and go for his own. He can still pass while being ball dominant and decisive...

He could be much more than he is, despite his perceived physical limitations.

[mudyez]

Btw: What is Dedmons status? Is he surely gone?

[SAGirl]

Even with the Anderson dig ignored, no max player needs a $15-20 Million player backing him up. I have to think the Spurs are willing to give AI an competitive offer if he's letting them meet with him first.
Anderson dig not ignored by me... I get a feeling about two things:
1. IF Danny is going out on a trade Iggy meant to start, again IF
2. IF Simmons comes back with some extravagant offer, again IF, then Iggy is a guy they would rather pay.

[raybies]

Iggy is one of the most versatile defenders in the league. Green's specializes in ones and twos. To have such a versatile defender and keep either Green or Simmons or maybe both, that's a daunting line of defense for any perimeter oriented team in the league. We would also improve in transition and he's a great playmaker and passer.

some y'all crazy

[tonight...you]

Iggy is one of the most versatile defenders in the league. Green's specializes in ones and twos. To have such a versatile defender and keep either Green or Simmons or maybe both, that's a daunting line of defense for any perimeter oriented team in the league. We would also improve in transition and he's a great playmaker and passer.
Yeah, but his age, and mileage.
Wasn't it just last year people were saying he looked done?

[TimDunkem]

Iggy is one of the most versatile defenders in the league. Green's specializes in ones and twos. To have such a versatile defender and keep either Green or Simmons or maybe both, that's a daunting line of defense for any perimeter oriented team in the league. We would also improve in transition and he's a great playmaker and passer.
And we need athletic playmakers who play defense in the worst way. It really isn't all that bad if he's on a short deal.

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, but his age, and mileage.
Wasn't it just last year people were saying he looked done?
Early on he did, but then came back strong. He made big plays all year long. Either way, I'd take my chances with Iggy and Hill (eh..) than TP and Manu at this point, tbh.

[raybies]

And we need athletic playmakers who play defense in the worst way. It really isn't all that bad if he's on a short deal.
Yup that really is the key to the age argument. 2years and a player option.

[rastaspur]

https://youtu.be/mFSRCG4DrmI

Good vibes to all tonight. Party the fuck down. Basketball is but a game. We have been sweating bullets with the Flux of how things are.

Smoke a spliff, drink a stiff one. Whatever relaxes you. Relax yourself by any means necessary. :bobo. :danceclub :smokin:smokin

[TimDunkem]

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[mudyez]

Guess a player at his age is prefering something longer, as it probably will be his last payday.

[Atl Spur]

Iggy is a better fit than Danny in any universe....... Danny is probably ending up in Philly

[tonight...you]

https://youtu.be/mFSRCG4DrmI

Good vibes to all tonight. Party the fuck down. Basketball is but a game. We have been sweating bullets with the Flux of how things are.

Smoke a spliff, drink a stiff one. Whatever relaxes you. Relax yourself by any means necessary. :bobo. :danceclub :smokin:smokin
Wisdom of the ancients. :toast

[tonight...you]

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It's not like they can sell Andre on joining a Super Team... It's gotta be about money and commitment, for this guy.

[raybies]

As long as the Spurs offer is competitive they should have a good chance. I believe he'll go to the best combination of money and winning.

[raybies]

Sources told Amico Hoops on Friday that the Spurs are also expected to recruit Shaun Livingston, Iguodala’s teammate with the Warriors.

[tonight...you]

Sources told Amico Hoops on Friday that the Spurs are also expected to recruit Shaun Livingston, Iguodala’s teammate with the Warriors.
This will make gambit happy...

[BatManu20]

If you can't beat em, try to sign all their players. :lol

[raybies]

Shaun should be considerably cheaper than Hill. It'd be funny to see him torturing Curry in the post. :lol

[Chinook]

I don't know who thinks Iggy can guard ones and that Green can't guard threes, but those guys are dumb, no offense.

[Emperor]

Are these guys Livingston/Iggy simply Mills/Manu replacements or are Spurs promising them starting positions? What gives with Parker/Murray/White on the squad. Could they be thinking of doing the unbelievable and dumping Parker for Livingston? So many damn questions that will soon be answered with disappointment in just a few hours I'm afraid.

[objective]

So the Spurs target the Warriors older, injured guys the Spurs don't really need and the Warriors target the Spurs younger athletic player the Warriors need.

Warriors really are light years ahead.

[raybies]

Ok Chinook, really sorry I said that about ur boy. Danny can't guard Lebron or Durant and Iggy can. Right now we only have one player that can do that, two would be amazing. Klay isn't much of a dynamic scorer but Leonard and Iggy could handle that and I want to see you try to defend Danny recovering around a screen. He gets obliterated every time it seems. And if your the Warriors, you wouldn't exactly want to switch to Iggy.

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

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Trade value improving by the second. :flag:
Damage control... LMA going to owe that guy a favor... why didn't he say it earlier?

[SAGirl]

Old ass players in Pau, Manu and Parker's corpses, Igoudala. Let's sign Korver and Dunleavy while we're at it. :wow


And I REALLY wanted to trade for Iggy in 2012 when he was leaving Denver. I liked him. But you can't say he makes sense with Kawhi, Simmons, Murray, Parker or LMA. Only good thing is that he'd be replacing Manu, and he'd probably come back anyway.
RC right now at the bar lol

[Hoops Czar]

So the Spurs target the Warriors older, injured guys the Spurs don't really need and the Warriors target the Spurs younger athletic player the Warriors need.

Warriors really are light years ahead.

This guy gets it.

[Kurik]

Damage control... LMA going to owe that guy a favor... why didn't he say it earlier?

This was during the Houston series, he may not have felt the same way after the Warriors.

[FkLA]

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Fucking retarded ass teams. No way guys like Iguadala settle for $15 mill/yr.

[Emperor]

Damage control... LMA going to owe that guy a favor... why didn't he say it earlier?

Perhaps he's trying not to look like the bad guy so much so that another team can take him? Might be a few desperate teams out there willing to do so after striking out on the bigger fish.

[DesignatedT]

Super quiet on the Patty Mills front... kinda surprising to me.

[raybies]

Getting two champions however unlikely with attractive skill sets for the modern NBA as opposed to losing a young big who couldn't sniff time in the playoffs. Played in one meaningful game and got tossed. Love to see him in a high pressure situation with the game on the line. I'm sure Pop would choose the vets who've been there before and so would i

[Atl Spur]

This guy gets it.

So let me get this right, are you saying Livingston and Iggy isn't better than the CURRENT Patty / Manu combo? If pop miss on evaluating J.Green & Dedmon so be it but I for one trust his evaluation👍🏾

[Nathan89]

Has Tspence leaked anything?:wakeup

[Atl Spur]

Getting two champions however unlikely with attractive skill sets for the modern NBA as opposed to losing a young big who couldn't sniff time in the playoffs. Played in one meaningful game and got tossed. Love to see him in a high pressure situation with the game on the line. I'm sure Pop would choose the vets who've been there before and so would i

👍🏾 I'm with you!

[TimDunkem]

So let me get this right, are you saying Livingston and Iggy isn't better than the CURRENT Patty / Manu combo? If pop miss on evaluating J.Green & Dedmon so be it but I for one trust his evaluation
We can agree on this. Livingston/Iggy > Manu/Mills, tbqfh

[spursistan]

Super quiet on the Patty Mills front... kinda surprising to me.
His market has dried up pretty fast..

[BatManu20]

Super quiet on the Patty Mills front... kinda surprising to me.

Same. But he's likely gone tbh.

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[TimDunkem]

Same. But he's likely gone tbh.

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:vomit:

[spursistan]

Same. But he's likely gone tbh.

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It is Philly or bust..IMO..

[BatManu20]

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[LittleCriminal]

LMA, if he should stay, will be a model citizen. He's too much of a puss to outwardly and blatantly make noise.
I don't give an ish what Stephen A says. And neither should you, punks. He may not last on the team, he may be traded before the season, but if he stays on the team- he's going to work his butt off until the heat gets too hot, and isn't that all you can ask for in a pussy?

I don't mind riding this big vag out through his final year. He'll obey. He's wired to obey. He's just a bit whiny and selfish. That's a beta.

They don't trade him... whatevs. They got to the WCF last year and had a snowball's chance (which is more than all, but 1 team can say), before the "hits".

I love me my boy TimDunkem (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16114), but old boy has to be insufferable right now at home, if there is anybody else even around...

Bro, take a chill pill. Just for a few hours before FA starts. You are already worked into a lather and it's only going to get worse from here, baby.


:bobo

[gambit1990]

Sources told Amico Hoops on Friday that the Spurs are also expected to recruit Shaun Livingston, Iguodala’s teammate with the Warriors.

This will make gambit happy...
https://media.giphy.com/media/r1fDuPIcs18d2/giphy.gif

[objective]

Livingston just finished the least productive season with the worst PER of his entire career, doesn't shoot threes, and will be 32 when camp starts.

Give me a break.

[marinoman]

I'm still hoping Westbrook tells okc he won't resign so presti trades him here. That's really the only way we compete for a championship. Not really feeling the talent out there other than milsap and he'll probably go to the highest bidder

[Chinook]

Teague to Minny for $55M/3

[BatManu20]

LOL Clips


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[tonight...you]

Blake back to the Clips
Why not? The guy he dislikes left and they got more money to throw at him.

Have fun sharing that ball with Captain OCD, Harden.

[HarlemHeat37]

No-brainer, tbh..he hated playing with Chris Paul(as everybody does), now he's the #1 guy and gets a ton of money..

[Atl Spur]

Livingston just finished the least productive season with the worst PER of his entire career, doesn't shoot threes, and will be 32 when camp starts.

Give me a break.

Sir he is great backup to your starting guard; 6"7 is better posting up midgets vs shooting 3's right?

[AFBlue]

LOL Clips


880960762000396292

His best move tbh. If you're not going to join a contender, might as well get PAID.

[BatManu20]

880961163235700740

[look_at_g_shred]

I really wanted Livingston the summer when we rang. I'd still take him tho.

[TimDunkem]

LOL Clips


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Yep. No surprise.

[Mr. Body]

Blake also doesn't plausibly have to be successful. He can just throw up good stats and who cares.

[Chinook]

Now who are the Suns going to sign to be their starting PF?

[spursistan]

LOL Clips


880960762000396292

Pretty obvious Jerry West and co. made it a Blake over CP3 choice..According to all reports; they didn't want to give that 5th year to Paul..

[AFBlue]

Teague to Minny for $55M/3

Good God. :lol

Guess I better get used to deals like this

[RD2191]

So much for that Suns meeting. :lol

[BatManu20]

Iggy is the village bicycle.


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[tonight...you]

Now who are the Suns going to sign to be their starting PF?
I vote Popeye Jones.

Just for the eye candy.

[objective]

Sir he is great backup to your starting guard; 6"7 is better posting up midgets vs shooting 3's right?

If the Warriors sign Parker or Mills, maybe. That's who he used to kill, midgets who can't defend.

Until then, he's collapsing game wise.

No thanks.

[tonight...you]

Pretty obvious Jerry West and co. made it a Blake over CP3 choice..According to all reports; they didn't want to give that 5th year to Paul..
Jerry West turning the Clips into something formidable already with his philosophy.
And he's damnably right.

[Hoops Czar]

So let me get this right, are you saying Livingston and Iggy isn't better than the CURRENT Patty / Manu combo? If pop miss on evaluating J.Green & Dedmon so be it but I for one trust his evaluation

Iggy and Livingston are better in vacuum but both will command MORE money and unlike Manu, who'll be off the books next year, Livingston and Iggy will continue to eat away at the salary cap making it much more difficult to sign free agents in 2018. Also, both are moving from a flawless free flowing motion offense to a post up, mid range, who knows what offense. Golden State's system made those two players look a lot better than they actually are in reality. It won't take long for people to hate on Iggy when he looks like a homeless man's Danny Green missing his long range three's and 35% of his free throws. In today's you need to fight fire with fire. If you can't match a team's offensive fire power, you'll get left behind.

[tdunk21]

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[HarlemHeat37]

Makes it more likely that James Johnson re-ups with the Heat..

[TimDunkem]

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[BatManu20]

Iggy is the village bicycle.


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[Ron Swanson]

880953172482707456

Fucking retarded ass teams. No way guys like Iguadala settle for $15 mill/yr.

https://media.tenor.com/images/e84055b828edd2a9b22bf71d74fdb490/tenor.gif

[texbound]

I vote Popeye Jones.

Just for the eye candy.

If you're going eye candy then I vote for Tyronne Hill and Sam Cassel to play along side Popeye.

[Mr. Body]

Jerry West turning the Clips into something formidable already with his philosophy.
And he's damnably right.

Formidable? :lol

[SAGirl]

Most of those are prospects, and 26 is too fucking old for prospects. Those should be the main rotation, not the third string.
Some are only prospects bc Pop doesn't play them bc if his vets, but when they have played enough minutes have done well. Simmons is going on 28 but he's not a prospect anymore... only White and Blossomgame we don't know. That's my opinion anyways. You have yours.

[mo7888]

Now who are the Suns going to sign to be their starting PF?

They won't sign a pf...they'll trade ...thankfully... our chances of bender or chriss just went up

[tonight...you]

If you're going eye candy then I vote for Tyronne Hill and Sam Cassel to play along side Popeye.
Oh hells yeah! The ALL-Calender Team...

[HarlemHeat37]

Joe Ingles is better than Iguodala, tbh..means a lot coming from me, too, knowing my feelings about white NBA players in 2017:lol

[tonight...you]

Formidable? :lol
Ah bro, you thinking about now, aren't you? I'm talking about the long game.
I like to think more than the now, don't you?

And Jerry has a proven track record of making teams flourish through the long game.

[spursistan]

Have to hand it to Morey, most proactive GM in the entire league leaving no stone unturned with a win-now window..

[TimDunkem]

Joe Ingles is better than Iguodala, tbh..means a lot coming from me, too, knowing my feelings about white NBA players in 2017:lol
I agree. Tough, decent defender, better shooter, length, point forward. Not a bad player at all.

[tmtcsc]

Jerry West turning the Clips into something formidable already with his philosophy.
And he's damnably right.

SMART

[RD2191]

These numbers are insane. What's the most Duncan ever made(money) in a season?

[TimDunkem]

WOAH

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[tonight...you]

Have to hand it to Morey, most proactive GM in the entire league leaving no stone unturned with a win-now window..
He truly is on #TeamTurnover, but hey- it just may work, right?
I mean, they still have the Ultimate Quitter as their best player, so they have that going for them.

[SAGirl]

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You know we're always going to disagree on this front. :lol
I know.. wouldn't have mentioned it but I had to in principle. Kyledid show up unlike faggy Lamarcus Aldridge who guys are inclined to forget about. To call LMA a vagina is an offense to all women tbh

[tdunk21]

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[tonight...you]

WOAH

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Now that's an OMG.

[RD2191]

Well, at least it's not to a contender. The east though, what a joke. LeBron with another cakewalk season after season.

[Ron Swanson]

These numbers are insane. What's the most Duncan ever made(money) in a season?

Just over $22 million in 2009-10.

[HarlemHeat37]

^^Is that a real account, tbh? Where the fuck did that trade come from?:lol

[TimDunkem]

^^Is that a real account, tbh? Where the fuck did that trade come from?:lol
Ramona is real. lol

[tdunk21]

Marc Spears retweeted so it has to be

[tonight...you]

^^Is that a real account, tbh? Where the fuck did that trade come from?:lol
Uhh... dude.

[RD2191]

Just over $22 million in 2009-10.

Wow.

[r0drig0lac]

WOAH

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goatbrook

[RD2191]

Big Mona dropping nukes.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ramona is real. lol

Thought it could be fake like all those fake Woj accounts:lol everybody fell for it, last week, with George to Boston..

[SuperCam]

Spur could find themselves 5 seed if they only add washed up vets like iggy and Livingston tbh

[objective]

If that George trade is real, Spurs are down to 4th in the west?

[marinoman]

WOAH

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Wow, so Westbrook will sign extension

[Ron Swanson]

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[SAGirl]

I really, really hope Anderson builds upon everything he's been doing and just brings it next year. His shot is faster (which was my main complaint), he's got Diaw-lite skills and it would truly be in his best interests if he just let his balls drop and go for his own. He can still pass while being ball dominant and decisive...

He could be much more than he is, despite his perceived physical limitations.
I hope that too but he needs a real opportunity to compete nightly. After he showed up in the playoffs in a situation like he did (and JSimms and Murray) one should only go up from there. To return after that to be 11th to 13th in the rotation... I mean wtf are the Spurs doing then? It doesn't make sense.

[tdunk21]

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[gambit1990]

haven't come across okc being interested in anyone or being involved in rumors.
okc got george the next day :lol

[Nathan89]

Well at least I have another team to root for when Spurs get knockout in the 1st or 2nd round.

Westbrook is definitely off the table now.

Can't believe they got that trade done with no assets. That's a shit tier offer.

[tonight...you]

I hope that too but he needs a real opportunity to compete nightly. After he showed up in the playoffs in a situation like he did (and JSimms and Murray) one should only go up from there. To return after that to be 11th to 13th in the rotation... I mean wtf are the Spurs doing then? It doesn't make sense.
Pop wanted him in the rotation and believed in him at the beginning of last year. I remember a quote by Kyle, before the season started, saying Pop told him to go Kill it, or something to that effect. He stayed timid and that threw Kyle out of regular rotation minutes until he showed more aggression, which only came late this year.

I hope he builds upon that. I'm certain that's what Pop wants. He's wanted it.

[cd98]

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Sam Presti is good. But he also lost Durant, so probably will lose PG.

[marinoman]

Unreal Boston didn't offer better to get PG. Okc offer is weak, even for a rental

[Nathan89]

Meanwhile Kawhi stuck shit tier running mates tbh.

[SAGirl]

Sources told Amico Hoops on Friday that the Spurs are also expected to recruit Shaun Livingston, Iguodala’s teammate with the Warriors.
Wow you were spot on with the San Anton warriors.

[Ron Swanson]

Watch George and Westbrook bolt next offseason.

[Dverde]

How shitty is the East now without PG13...another cake walk to the finals for LBJ

[Nathan89]

Sam Presti is good. But he also lost Durant, so probably will lose PG.

He lost Durant because Durant is a bitch. He scooped of PG for peanuts. He can't really control wear he wants to play. There only mistake is not paying Harden.

[Nathan89]

How shitty is the East now without PG13...another cake walk to the finals for LBJ

PG and Butler go West. Melo and Wade are older and diminished. The East is awful.

[sasaint]

I hope that too but he needs a real opportunity to compete nightly. After he showed up in the playoffs in a situation like he did (and JSimms and Murray) one should only go up from there. To return after that to be 11th to 13th in the rotation... I mean wtf are the Spurs doing then? It doesn't make sense.

Kyle is gonna be our starting PF opening night.

[gambit1990]

playoff seeding should be #1-#16.

[SAGirl]

Livingston just finished the least productive season with the worst PER of his entire career, doesn't shoot threes, and will be 32 when camp starts.

Give me a break.
Spurs are going back in time....
frankly got nothing against iggy and Livingston except that I can't believe there has been so much movement of so much better players and ThIS!!! This is the best they can do?

[rastaspur]

I vote Popeye Jones.

Just for the eye candy.

Popeye looks like a black sloth from goonies

[cd98]

Looks like RC plan is to just hope young players turn into all stars next season.

[Ice009]

Well, Free Agency is over for me. I wanted Paul George and somehow OKC gets him for peanuts. Spurs front office sucks (not because they didn't get Paul George, but because they're looking at average, OLD players for big money). I wanted to keep Presti back in the day. Should of fucking dumped RC Buford.

Ask for a trade, Kawhi. Get the fuck out of there. Don't even bother wasting two more years.

[tdunk21]

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[objective]

Looks like RC plan is to just hope young players turn into all stars next season.

Sounds like his real plan is to flush Kawhi's prime down the toilet by signing 32 and 33 year old fading bench players to caproom killing deals.