Official 2017 Offseason Thread

[BatManu20]

PG would be awesome, even just as a rental.

Wait, what? How?

[BatManu20]

Lol fucking Clippers :lol

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[Seventyniner]

LMA and DG for PG (Indy and move them for whatever). Sell Paul on a pay cut. Draft a C at 29 and get Lee back. Profit.

If the prospect of playing with Kawhi and CP3 doesn't get Paul George to commit, nothing will.

Of course, "nothing will" is quite likely.

How much of a pay cut are we talking for CP3? Does it involve stretching Parker?

[BatManu20]

What is this witchcraft


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[cd98]

Wait, what? How?

If it's LMA trade straight up, he'd be leaving SA next year if he stayed.

[Mnky]

You ruined it with Rabb. I'll take Jordan Bell tho'.

Don't think he falls as far as rabb. Has more hype. Better defender, but Rabb can run wit the best of them, plays with chip on shoulder, has a high bball iq I wish spurs vets had, plus is an aggressive rebounder with 9'1 standing reach. His iq is his besf attribute though. He just makes great decisions.

Oregon had to double team Rabb btw. So his offensive gamr isn't terrible or anything .

Id be stoked to get that upside @ 29.

[TimDunkem]

I'm fine with it. The chance of even having to chance of getting him to stay would be worth it. If it doesn't work, you end up with cap to retool on the fly.

[Mnky]

Again why? He can shoot better than bell. Is longer. Similar n athleticism. His offensive game is better than bell which fits today's nba better.

He runs like a forward. Shot 8 of 20 from 3py land, so is capable of stretching and is a great rebounder with high iq game.

I think he fits great wit today's nba. I think most posters don't really know what the players are that they talk about tbh.

[TimDunkem]

Don't think he falls as far as rabb. Has more hype. Better defender, but Rabb can run wit the best of them, plays with chip on shoulder, has a high bball iq I wish spurs vets had, plus is an aggressive rebounder with 9'1 standing reach. His iq is his besf attribute though. He just makes great decisions.

Oregon had to double team Rabb btw. So his offensive gamr isn't terrible or anything .

Id be stoked to get that upside @ 29.I was being a little hard on the Rabb pick, but that's the great thing about this draft - it looks deep enough to draft Rabb at 29 and say you might have whiffed the pick. :lol

There are other bigs in the draft who might drop out of the lottery so Rabb isn't even in my top 10 of possible players at 29.

[Mnky]

I was being a little hard on the Rabb pick, but that's the great thing about this draft - it looks deep enough to draft Rabb at 29 and say you might have whiffed the pick. :lol

There are other bigs in the draft who might drop out of the lottery so Rabb isn't even in my top 10 of possible players at 29.

Yea this draft will be all over the place. The off season has been more exciting than the season... tbh. Looking forward to how it plays out.

[Seventyniner]

What is this which craft


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I'm thinking that Paul George has given out a list of teams that he absolutely will not re-sign with, teams he will consider re-signing with, and team(s) he will commit to re-signing with in the case he is traded. This tweet (and others) indicate that the Spurs are in the middle list. The last list might be only the Lakers.

[DAF86]

What is this which craft


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Please let this happen. Paul George is my number one dream get this offseason. Bigger than Paul or Porzingis.

[apalisoc_9]

So many disgusting and terrible ideas thrown around.

Paul George is an even bigger loser than Aldridge.

He will leave as soon as he realizes he's a 15ppg in a spurs uniform.

Get that coon out of here.

[NASpurs]

I've read Amico and Kyler are full of shit so I'm taking their tweets with a grain of salt. Need better sauces.

[bklynspursfan]

Then maybe Georgie could come back and be re-united with PG and the Spurs.

[bklynspursfan]

I've read Amico and Kyler are full of shit so I'm taking their tweets with a grain of salt. Need better sauces.

I knew Amico wasn't the most reliable dude, didn't realize Kyler was too.

[SpursFan86]

I've read Amico and Kyler are full of shit so I'm taking their tweets with a grain of salt. Need better sauces.

Yeah, I'll remain skeptical for now.

[NASpurs]

Then maybe Georgie could come back and be re-united with PG and the Spurs.

Chris Paul + George Hill = Paul George confirmed :wow

[Joseph Kony]

lol if Spurs manage to get Hill and PG on the same team w/ Kawhi and Bertans :lol

[Nathan89]

So many disgusting and terrible ideas thrown around.

Paul George is an even bigger loser than Aldridge.

He will leave as soon as he realizes he's a 15ppg in a spurs uniform.

Get that coon out of here.

15ppg:lmao

[TimDunkem]

lol if Spurs manage to get Hill and PG on the same team w/ Kawhi and Bertans :lol
I want it to happen just for this. :lmao

[r0drig0lac]

lol if Spurs manage to get Hill and PG on the same team w/ Kawhi and Bertans :lol

the prophecy http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smishocked.gif

[TheGreatYacht]

So many disgusting and terrible ideas thrown around.

Paul George is an even bigger loser than Aldridge.

He will leave as soon as he realizes he's a 15ppg in a spurs uniform.

Get that coon out of here.
Great Avi :tu

[apalisoc_9]

At least we Know Paul is one of those guys, who isn't too concerned about his Counting Stats.

This Paul George guy does. He's a loser.

[NASpurs]

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[peacemaker885]

Too much news and such about the Spurs. Hope us fans don't get disappointed...

[Chinook]

Only stat CP3 cares about is dat USG%

[BatManu20]

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[apalisoc_9]

15ppg:lmao

Spurstalk also laughed when I said Aldridge was going to get relegated to 17ppg
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sass2.png

I am never wrong about this kind of things. I am not chinook.

[cd98]

So many disgusting and terrible ideas thrown around.

Paul George is an even bigger loser than Aldridge.

He will leave as soon as he realizes he's a 15ppg in a spurs uniform.

Get that coon out of here.

Naw. I went to the Spurs home game vs. Indiana, and PG was a stud, even against Kawhi. Swapping LMA for PG is a win, especially because what else are you going to get for a guy nobody wants.

[apalisoc_9]

Only stat CP3 cares about is dat USG%

With Lamarsha out, CP3 better have a 25% usage rate or he can GTFO too.

[Nathan89]

If Spurs get PG13 people(fans on forums) will be ranking him top 10 in the league by the end of next year.

[apalisoc_9]

Great Avi :tu

thanks brotha...

[mudyez]

PG13 > CP3

[apalisoc_9]

If Spurs get PG13 people(fans on forums) will be ranking him top 10 in the league by the end of next year.

SMDH the casual losers who dont undersand the nuances of the game.

I wish we can all just get rid of White Posters who has clearly never played a game of ball in their life.

[rjv]

the only thing i know for certain is that i will go to bed very disappointed if the spurs wind up with a draft and stash and nothing else by the end of the day.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Um yeah. If we can swap LA for Paul George, hurry up and get that trade card into the league before anyone up in Indy has time to think about it.

[apalisoc_9]

cp3>Stripper fucker

[Joseph Kony]

At least PG has a go-to mentality and will do what he can to win unlike that soft pussy we're trying to get rid of....though his behavior/comments in the playoffs are concerning especially considering the only GW shot he hit was in a gatorade commercial... :lol

[cd98]

If Spurs get PG13 people(fans on forums) will be ranking him top 10 in the league by the end of next year.

Pairing two stellar defenders that can both put the ball on the floor, pass, and shoot the three...why the hell would that be a bad thing? He's the only one that even looked like he belonged against the Cavs in the playoffs. Besides, between PG and Kawhi, there are a lot of points to score. That's a pairing that could give GSW a run, assuming we could get the right complementary parts.

[r0drig0lac]

Pairing two stellar defenders that can both put the ball on the floor, pass, and shoot the three...why the hell would that be a bad thing? He's the only one that even looked like he belonged against the Cavs in the playoffs. Besides, between PG and Kawhi, there are a lot of points to score. That's a pairing that could give GSW a run, assuming we could get the right complementary parts.

spurstalk

[Keepin' it real]

So Los Spurs are trading LMA and Green, and signing CP3, PG, Derek Rose and George Hill. Plus bringing over euros Hanga and Mulitinov. And also getting draft picks. Wow, what an overhaul!!!

I smell :lobt2:

[mudyez]

Bring back George! ;)

[Holden_Caulfield]

also if we get paul george he gets to keep his gay ass nickname pg13

[Nathan89]

SMDH the casual losers who dont undersand the nuances of the game.

I wish we can all just get rid of White Posters who has clearly never played a game of ball in their life.

:lol

Not saying their take means anything. Just saying he's going to look like a top 10 player and by default that means he won't be averaging 15pts. In a system that's going to push the ball in transition more and increase 3pt frequency I don't think that is possible.

I hope we get him so we can bump your shit take. Like when you wanted to trade Kawhi.

[NASpurs]

So Los Spurs are trading LMA and Green, and signing CP3, PG, Derek Rose and George Hill. Plus bringing over euros Hanga and Mulitinov. And also getting draft picks. Wow, what an overhaul!!!

I smell :lobt2:

You forgot about Porzingis :wow

[cd98]

spurstalk

Well the minute that he went on the block, half the GMs in the league picked up the phone. So maybe Spurstalk are the people that thumbs down every player not named Kawhi.

[Chinook]

It's been almost 10 minutes since someone has posted a tweet. Has the world dieded?

[cd98]

spurstalk

BTW, GSW have three of those guys, which is why they are damn good and unguardable.

[Nathan89]

Pairing two stellar defenders that can both put the ball on the floor, pass, and shoot the three...why the hell would that be a bad thing? He's the only one that even looked like he belonged against the Cavs in the playoffs. Besides, between PG and Kawhi, there are a lot of points to score. That's a pairing that could give GSW a run, assuming we could get the right complementary parts.

It's not a bad thing. I'd love to add PG to the team.

[apalisoc_9]

:lol

Not saying their take means anything. Just saying he's going to look like a top 10 player and by default that means he won't be averaging 15pts. In a system that's going to push the ball in transition more and increase 3pt frequency I don't think that is possible.

I hope we get him so we can bump your shit take. Like when you wanted to trade Kawhi.

I never wanted to trade kawhi..Idiot.

I've never been wrong about Player evaluation.

lol casuals :lol

[DPG21920]

You would have to majorly think that getting PG would entice CP3 to SA. CP+PG+Kawhi is a beast. If they move LMA & DG (especially for a pick) SA should be able to sign both PG & CP to max (because they have PG's birds). WOah.

[Hoops Czar]

SMDH the casual losers who dont undersand the nuances of the game.

I wish we can all just get rid of White Posters who has clearly never played a game of ball in their life.

Calm down! It's a one year deal and if/when it doesn't work out, the Spurs will have max money to throw at another free agent in 2018.

[loveforthegame]

I love and hate this day.

I swear I won't get hopeful when rumors start flying but then I do. And I only have myself to blame when the night ends with the Spurs drafting/stashing their pick. :lol :(

[buttsR4rebounding]

So Los Spurs are trading LMA and Green, and signing CP3, PG, Derek Rose and George Hill. Plus bringing over euros Hanga and Mulitinov. And also getting draft picks. Wow, what an overhaul!!!

I smell :lobt2:


You forgot about Porzingis :wow

Porzingis is a pipe dream.

[sasaint]

You would have to majorly think that getting PG would entice CP3 to SA. CP+PG+Kawhi is a beast. If they move LMA & DG (especially for a pick) SA should be able to sign both PG & CP to max (because they have PG's birds). WOah.

So, that's how you pitch both PG and CP.

[r0drig0lac]

Well the minute that he went on the block, half the GMs in the league picked up the phone. So maybe Spurstalk are the people that thumbs down every player not named Kawhi.
I was agreeing with your post, so I did not understand

[Seventyniner]

I love and hate this day.

I swear I won't get hopeful when rumors start flying but then I do. And I only have myself to blame when the night ends with the Spurs drafting/stashing their pick. :lol :(

Just ride the wave and enjoy it, man. Hope is what keeps sports alive.

[NASpurs]

Porzingis is a pipe dream.

So you also think the Spurs are signing CP3, PG, Derek Rose and George Hill? That's the point of my post.

[Joseph Kony]

Funny that the last week or so has been FAR more entertaining than the entire 2017 NBA playoffs :lol

[DPG21920]

No matter what happens, this week has already been more fun than anything :lol.

This is what it feels like when you your anchor of stability is gone (Tim) and your team is involved in every rumor (SA fans typically don't get tickets to that show, but we are now :lol)

[Keepin' it real]

You forgot about Porzingis :wow

Even better! :lobt2::lobt2:

[TimDunkem]

Just ride the wave and enjoy it, man. Hope is what keeps sports alive.Well said.

[sexinthatsx]

I never wanted to trade kawhi..Idiot.

I've never been wrong about Player evaluation.

lol casuals :lol

PG is a multi-volume scorer anda two-way player, something Aldridge never was to begin with. Having Kawhi and PG play together as two way players will be impressive.

Somehow, if Spurs are able to get George Hill as well, they'll become a defensive beast of a team.

[Mr. Body]

Small Forward is the game now. With George they'd have two tough, strong, multi-dimensional players at that position.

[Robz4000]

Went camping last night and what is this I don't even.

[r0drig0lac]

PG is a multi-volume scorer anda two-way player, something Aldridge never was to begin with. Having Kawhi and PG play together as two way players will be impressive.

Somehow, if Spurs are able to get George Hill as well, they'll become a defensive beast of a team.

this, How any fan of spurs might not want this?

[Mr. Body]

With George, that's no loss with Green going.

[cd98]

I was agreeing with your post, so I did not understand

My bad. I just looking for a fight with all this angst about what direction the Spurs are going.

[cd98]

You would have to majorly think that getting PG would entice CP3 to SA. CP+PG+Kawhi is a beast. If they move LMA & DG (especially for a pick) SA should be able to sign both PG & CP to max (because they have PG's birds). WOah.

Hell, PG + Kawhi + George Hill would be awesome. Come home PG.

[ECOV]

Went camping last night and what is this I don't even.
how do you feel seeing all this ?:lol

[Nathan89]

PG has shot over 40% on 3's his last 3 playoff appearances. Which was an increase from his regular season performance. It'd be nice to add that to the team. He'll be even better in the Spurs system.

[emanueldavidginobili]

PATFO know that this team needs to make major moves to compete with the Warriors.

[mudyez]

Hell, PG + Kawhi + George Hill would be awesome. Come home PG.

+Murray = What a Defense!

[gospursgojas]

So what happens on ST tonight when no moves are made and Spurs draft a euro at 29?

[TimDunkem]

So what happens on ST tonight when no moves are made and Spurs draft a euro at 29?
Well, we know you'll be happy.

[Mr. Body]

So what happens on ST tonight when no moves are made and Spurs draft a euro at 29?

I don't expect anything for a little while.

[cd98]

So what happens on ST tonight when no moves are made and Spurs draft a euro at 29?

If LMA is on the roster on opening day. Yikes.

[Robz4000]

how do you feel seeing all this ?:lol

Kinda knew things were brewing as I left yesterday when it was announced the Spurs were shopping LDN. If they plan to replace them with CP0 it's a lateral move at best. PG has been pretty mediocre since his leg injury so I'm not high on getting him either.

[dabom]

Spurstalk also laughed when I said Aldridge was going to get relegated to 17ppg
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sass2.png

I am never wrong about this kind of things. I am not chinook.

:lol

[gospursgojas]

Well, we know you'll be happy.

Fuck no. Please get LMA's vagina off the team

[TheGreatYacht]

Vince Carter is open to joining a contender. One of the guys we can get if we sign CP3, tbh... there will always be ring chasers available for cheap

[ECOV]

cave and spurs are in trade talks for danny

[emanueldavidginobili]

Spurs and Cavs in talks with a Danny Green Trade. Btw how do you embed twitter post on to here?

[NASpurs]

I'll just stick this in here

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[ECOV]

but seriously ,who can the cavs offer to us

[Mr. Body]

I'll just stick this in here

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He would vastly improve the Cavs.

[Nathan89]

Cavs don't have anything.:lol

[NickiRasgo]

but seriously ,who can the cavs offer to us

Asking for high? Or the Cavs are low-balling?

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, Cavs likely called the Spurs. They have nothing to give and nothing the Spurs want.

[Spur|n|Austin]

but seriously ,who can the cavs offer to us

Good question

[ECOV]

Asking for high? Or the Cavs are low-balling?

most likely low balling

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Danny, LJC contract, and Forbes contract for Irving.... I guess?

[Nathan89]

Tristan Thompson would be their only asset worth considering. If Spurs were getting PG for basically LMA and signing some other big free agent.

[tonight...you]

No matter what happens, this week has already been more fun than anything :lol.

This is what it feels like when you your anchor of stability is gone (Tim) and your team is involved in every rumor (SA fans typically don't get tickets to that show, but we are now :lol)
This has been a blast.

[DPG21920]

Danny, LJC contract, and Forbes contract for Irving.... I guess?

Can't trade LJC. I know the Irving part was a joke though

[spursistan]

The news of the past 24 hours have completely muddied the waters as far as SA off-season plan..

I go back to what Zach Lowe was saying in a recent column that he knows they had a pretty clear/grand idea about building around and not wasting Leonard prime..It remains to be seen what that plan is as it clearly a shakeup has been set in motion..I fail to see how can they be working on moving two starters without knowing what will COME and MATERIALIZE next..

[sasaint]

Tristan Thompson would be their only asset worth considering. If Spurs were getting PG for basically LMA and signing some other big free agent.

This, however, if the aim is to clear space to acquire a PG, the Cavs have nada of interest.

[TheGreatYacht]

but seriously ,who can the cavs offer to us
Deron Williams - Kawhitstorm

[Joseph Kony]

wonder what the Cavs are offering for DG

[Dex]

Can't trade LJC. I know the Irving part was a joke though

Piece of shit is still a thorn in the side even after he's gone.

[apalisoc_9]

wonder what the Cavs are offering for DG

Shumpert and Frye plus a pick

[DPG21920]

Shumpert and Frye plus a pick

What? CLE has no picks until like 2021 and Shump+Frye are way worse than Danny. Way worse.

[jehawk81]

No matter what happens, this week has already been more fun than anything :lol.

This is what it feels like when you your anchor of stability is gone (Tim) and your team is involved in every rumor (SA fans typically don't get tickets to that show, but we are now :lol)

PROVE IT!!! Anyone can just blurt things out without having actual proof that what they're saying is accurate. Provide some links to this, if you're man enough :ihit :ihit :ihit

-FuzzyLumpz

[TimDunkem]

PROVE IT!!! Anyone can just blurt things out without having actual proof that what they're saying is accurate. Provide some links to this, if you're man enough :ihit :ihit :ihit

-FuzzyLumpz
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[objective]

Any kind of Cavs deal = take the keys away from RC and call an UBER

Nothing involving the Cavs makes any sense, their non-star assets are toxic trash running for many years

[TheGreatYacht]

All these Spurs rumors leading to a big shakeup... Good riddance. Kawhi's body gave out carrying scrubs all year. He needs a sidekick. Parker was just that in the playoffs until his body gave out as well. Haven't been this excited since 2014 :) :tu

[apalisoc_9]

All these Spurs rumors leading to a big shakeup... Good riddance. Kawhi's body gave out carrying scrubs all year. He needs a sidekick. Parker was just that in the playoffs until his body gave out as well. Haven't been this excited since 2014

If Tony was Healthy in the GSW series and Kawhi was healthy..Spurs would have himiliated the warriors.

[cd98]

Cavs only have Love to trade.

[TheGreatYacht]

If Tony was Healthy in the GSW series and Kawhi was healthy..Spurs would have himiliated the warriors.
Agreed. Spurs doing the smart thing moving LMA and potentially Danny to make way for Kawhi's Kyrie Irving (whoever that may be...)

[DPG21920]

PROVE IT!!! Anyone can just blurt things out without having actual proof that what they're saying is accurate. Provide some links to this, if you're man enough :ihit :ihit :ihit

-FuzzyLumpz

http://memeguy.com/photos/images/mrw-my-roommate-had-an-idea-for-a-post-and-said-see-you-on-the-front-page-16095.gif

[rastaspur]

Patfo aren't dealing danny to Cleveland as a favor. Didn't realize Cleveland has no picks. Do not want Jr smith, shumpert, Williams or channing Frye (Matt Bonner's darker brother).

[sasaint]

Cavs only have Love to trade.

Good replacement for LMA, but too expensive. Pass.

[sasaint]

Agreed. Spurs doing the smart thing moving LMA and potentially Danny to make way for Kawhi's Kyrie Irving (whoever that may be...)

Yes! A year late, but I am pumped!

[TimDunkem]

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[rasuo214]

All these Spurs rumors leading to a big shakeup... Good riddance. Kawhi's body gave out carrying scrubs all year. He needs a sidekick. Parker was just that in the playoffs until his body gave out as well. Haven't been this excited since 2014 :) :tu

Big 2 gave all they could carrying this team until their bodies gave out. Hopefully they get some help. :tu

[Mr. Body]

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Sounds like there's only one dot.

[spursistan]

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[tbdog]

https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/878028460882448386

[Chinook]

Looks like Love's SA bound. Well, it looks like Amico is lying. But you know...

[DPG21920]

It looks like Porzingis is not likely to be traded in reality. Might be time for teams to turn to LMA

[NASpurs]

Apparently Sam Amick is the good one while Sam Amico is the shitty one.

[Chinook]

Apparently Sam Amick is the good one while Sam Amico is the shitty one.

Indeed. Provided he's correct, though, maybe the deal is LMA and Green for Love, Jefferson and Felder, to be completed after the moratorium. Only saves $6 Million or so, but that's better than nothing.

[RD2191]

We better get kyrie back if we're trading both lma and green to the cavs

[HarlemHeat37]

We better get kyrie back if we're trading both lma and green to the cavs

:lol

[manufan10]

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[manufan10]

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[tholdren]

We better get kyrie back if we're trading both lma and green to the cavs

Do not want any cavs. Thugs and streetballers. No thanks

[Leetonidas]

Wow. Can't believe they included Dunn and the 7th pick

[Mr. Body]

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For one year of Paul George? This stupid.

[NASpurs]

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[bklynspursfan]

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Welp

[Leetonidas]

Lmao if ainge basically traded the #1 pick for a 1 year rental of PG

[Hoops Czar]

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Spurs never had a chance once the big dogs started barking. :lol

[Walter Donovan]

Spurs should trade LMA for Dwight Howard

[Mr. Body]

Lmao if ainge basically traded the #1 pick for a 1 year rental of PG

It sucks to have a lot of assets when there's not much talent in the league.

[Keepin' it real]

When are the Spurs gonna sign DeShaun Thomas? He's a natural scorer. Could have helped against GSW. He still playing overseas?

[DAF86]

So the depth chart so far looks:

Murray, White, Tony
Green, Forbes, open spot
Kawhi, Anderson, Blossomgame
SoontobetradedPOS, Bertans, open spot
Open spot, open spot, open spot

I'm doing this the top off my head so correct me if I'm wrong.

[SAGirl]

supported Kyle since day one, not gonna lie he did make me want to pull my hair out at times but i knew i had to be patient with him. Hope he does great next season.:bobo
Love your avi.
:toast. I have been tempted to use one from his UCLA days too, but high-fiving the GOAT... That's special. Still sometimes I do feel tempted. He was very special at the college level.

[SAGirl]

Indeed. Provided he's correct, though, maybe the deal is LMA and Green for Love, Jefferson and Felder, to be completed after the moratorium. Only saves $6 Million or so, but that's better than nothing.
Gross.... uber gross.
What's the angle?
If patfo wants to dump contracts for cap room, that doesn't accomplish it.

[SAGirl]

So the depth chart so far looks:

Murray, White, Tony
Green, Forbes, open spot
Kawhi, Anderson, Blossomgame
SoontobetradedPOS, Bertans, open spot
Open spot, open spot, open spot

I'm doing this the top off my head so correct me if I'm wrong.
Simmons got an offer to make him a RFA and still under contract... I guess until he's renounced he counts.
This is just so far obviously... a lot of stuff still to go down.

[mudyez]

No matter what happens, we need another big.

Gasol and Bertans are ok. We might keep Lee. And I see Kawhi playing more at the 4.

But hell, thats not nearly enough.

[Ice009]

Indeed. Provided he's correct, though, maybe the deal is LMA and Green for Love, Jefferson and Felder, to be completed after the moratorium. Only saves $6 Million or so, but that's better than nothing.

I do not want Kevin Love at all. Like I said earlier today before I had to go to work, we gotta get Indiana involved and have Love go there and Paul George come to the Spurs. Cleveland gets Green and Aldridge. That's the framework of the trade. Add in other pieces to make it work. I know Cleveland is going to come out ahead, but since Aldridge is going to bounce in a year, I'd be willing to take the gamble of Paul George not re-signing.

Lebron wants Danny Green and Aldridge is the throw in. Kind of like the Shumpert and JR Smith trade with JR being a throw in. Lebron's gotta feel like he's getting something extra. He was actually shocked that New York was going to throw JR Smith in. If it's a straight swap of Green and Aldridge for Kevin Love and filler, fuck that, I'd rather keep Aldridge and I certainly would want to keep Danny Green. I want a three way trade with Paul George coming to the Spurs.

Get this shit done. I think all three teams come out of this with something good.

[Chinook]

If Love could get PG, he would have done so already.

[Dex]

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:stirpot:

[Ice009]

If Love could get PG, he would have done so already.

I thought both Jimmy Butler and Paul George changed their mind on wanting to play in Cleveland? You sure Paul George didn't nix that trade cause he doesn't want to waste his time there?

You're probably right, but I'm just saying maybe PG didn't want go there.

[$pursDynasty]

The Cavs have nothing I would want EXCEPT what they are NOT going to give away, Kyrie and LBJ. The Spurs have won 60+ games with LMA each of the last two years so I am not giving him up for nothing. I would however give him up for say PG13 or Boogie (but not for KLove). Barring that I have no problem keeping LMA but knowing I can't rely on him in pressure moments, he is a definite #3 at least on our roster, ideally.

[TheGoldStandard]

Nobody is going to want an out of shape, fade away shooting prima donna with a heart condition.

[gambit1990]

seems like our frontcourt is getting another overhaul. i wonder who it'll be comprised of. i'd take gortat, john henson.

[cd021]

If Cavs can't get us a pick and cap space for Green, they can fuck off.

[Chinook]

If Cavs can't get us a pick and cap space for Green, they can fuck off.

Seriously. They're already doing wrong by Danny by keeping an injured Parker over him. Fuck trying to be nice and move him to wherever for the best deal possible. He can be in SAC or Philly for a year.

[TheGreatYacht]

Seriously. They're already doing wrong by Danny by keeping an injured Parker over him. Fuck trying to be nice and move him to wherever for the best deal possible. He can be in SAC or Philly for a year.
Parker has, is, and will continue to give the Spurs more production than Green in the postseason. November, December, January basketball doesn't matter aka the only months Green was good last season.

[Chinook]

Parker has, is, and will continue to give the Spurs more production than Green in the postseason. November, December, January basketball doesn't matter aka the only months Green was good last season.

:lol trying to defend Parker by saying that playing well in November doesn't matter.

[bklynspursfan]

Seriously. They're already doing wrong by Danny by keeping an injured Parker over him. Fuck trying to be nice and move him to wherever for the best deal possible. He can be in SAC or Philly for a year.

People were worried about how the Spurs would look after LMA's supposed claims about the Spurs hurting him to potential FA's. It'd look pretty bad too if they decide to move TP for all he's done and the sacrifices he's made for the team. Especially to a guy like Kawhi who then has to wonder if he'll be moved when he gets older but wants to possibly be a Spur for life...

It's tough to say they're doing wrong by Danny, especially after his play recently. It just hasn't been up to par, and I'm a big DG supporter.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol trying to defend Parker by saying that playing well in November doesn't matter.
:lol trying to defend a dude with a broken shot that you called irreplaceable, when the Spurs are about to ship his ass to the next bus headed to Brooklyn. Det LASIK surgery tho

[duncan2150]

Nobody likes terrence Jones as a back up inside ? Could be a nice addition imo.

[raybies]

looks like we have to wait a week and a half to here more news. been super quiet today

[raybies]

At this point I'd like Hill and Millsap on pay cuts. around 20 mill each.

cap for Hill and sign and trade for Millsap anyone?

[NASpurs]

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[TheGreatYacht]

2016-2017 stats

November/December Danny Green:
46.4 3P%
https://detroitpistonsnation.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/danny-gree.jpg





Jan/Feb/Mar/April Danny Green:
33.3 3P%
http://media.cleveland.com/cavs_impact/photo/danny-greenjpg-0a389643a7069c93.jpg





Playoffs Danny Green:
34.2 3P%
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/9914301d-c126-4034-80c2-15f21b64850d.jpg

[BatManu20]

Spurs will likely put in a phone call to Afflalo. Think he stays out West though. Lakers or Clippers.

[Dverde]

I imagine DG/LMA for PG13/Monta Ellis is what is on the table. Salaries work almost perfectly. Spurs probably holding it up because they don't want to include fathead.

[Chinook]

More importantly, they want nothing to do with Monta.

[Dverde]

i don't think Monta would hold them up. He could fill that six man scoring void left by Patty/Manu. My guess is they want a prospect included like Murray, Bertrans, fathead. LMA and DG could be gone in a year via player options.

[TheGreatYacht]

I imagine DG/LMA for PG13/Monta Ellis is what is on the table. Salaries work almost perfectly. Spurs probably holding it up because they don't want to include fathead.
Eh. Don't think Pacers care for the former

[Dverde]

Their GM did draft him. He's still a max player in today's NBA.

[Jdspur20]

Spurs will likely put in a phone call to Afflalo. Think he stays out West though. Lakers or Clippers.

Wouldn't be a bad pick up if they're signed him

[cd021]

Seriously. They're already doing wrong by Danny by keeping an injured Parker over him. Fuck trying to be nice and move him to wherever for the best deal possible. He can be in SAC or Philly for a year.
I've said this a couple of times already but Pasecniks, Bolden and Lessort for Green works for both Philly and the Spurs.

Spurs can stash Bolden and Lessort for a year and see what's what in 2018 and sign Pasecniks and White to rookie scale deals.

[CGD]

We need to send Danny for Philly assets. Two of Okafor, AP, Bolden would do nicely.

[RD2191]

Blake Griffin opted out, now a free agent.

[CGD]

Blake would be interesting on good deal (given injuries)

[BatManu20]

Griffin going home to OKC makes a ton of sense.

[BatManu20]

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[raybies]

Might be some desperate team trade for Danny or LMA when they miss out in Free Agency... Not over yet. With that said it's hard seeing the Spurs just give him away for nothing though. Phoenix just needs to give up Chriss or Bender for him tbh... I think a solid young prospect should be enough at this point.

Bledsoe/Booker/Jackson/Aldridge/Chandler would be solid.

[pad300]

Ok, maybe I have the cap #'s wrong, but I am getting suspicious about all this trade DG talk vs trading LMA.
The theory to this offseason is that we are targeting CP3. But trading DG won't open a full max for him, never mind say enough space to re-sign Gasol (I'm figuring there is a wink-wink deal). Trading LMA though, would make a max for CP3 and resigning Gasol practical...(assuming of course that they release all cap holds and drop Forbes).
Could the FO be planning on zigging when everyone else is zagging? Dump Danny and drop Forbes (and assorted cap holds other than JSIMMS) and I believe that there is enough cap space to offer Hayward a max contract. Kawhi + Hayward = A modern Jordan+Pippen?

[r0drig0lac]

Might be some desperate team trade for Danny or LMA when they miss out in Free Agency... Not over yet. With that said it's hard seeing the Spurs just give him away for nothing though. Phoenix just needs to give up Chriss or Bender for him tbh... I think a solid young prospect should be enough at this point.

Bledsoe/Booker/Jackson/Aldridge/Chandler would be solid.

I do not see this happening, I would like Warren

[TimDunkem]

Chris Paul has (unsurprisingly) opted out. 878379105137205248

[TimDunkem]

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[TimDunkem]

Boston, Houston, and Miami are being thrown out there as landing spots for Griffin.
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[ace3g]

ASM SPORTS @ASM_SPORTS
(https://twitter.com/ASM_SPORTS)

Lavoy Allen is an unrestricted free agent and looks forward to free agency.

[mo7888]

Ok, maybe I have the cap #'s wrong, but I am getting suspicious about all this trade DG talk vs trading LMA.
The theory to this offseason is that we are targeting CP3. But trading DG won't open a full max for him, never mind say enough space to re-sign Gasol (I'm figuring there is a wink-wink deal). Trading LMA though, would make a max for CP3 and resigning Gasol practical...(assuming of course that they release all cap holds and drop Forbes).
Could the FO be planning on zigging when everyone else is zagging? Dump Danny and drop Forbes (and assorted cap holds other than JSIMMS) and I believe that there is enough cap space to offer Hayward a max contract. Kawhi + Hayward = A modern Jordan+Pippen?

If we move lma and dg is there enough room for Hayward and hill?

[CGD]

878379537893117953

Well, duh

[raybies]

Well, duh
Pretty much lol

[pad300]

If we move lma and dg is there enough room for Hayward and hill?

Not if Hill wants a max, which people were suggesting during the season, after he turned down the extension with Utah.

[SAGirl]

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I wonder if it means they have potential deals lined up already but just waiting on FA. No way to know. Gives me hope. The way Lamarcus has bee unfollowing an deleting tweets something is potentially already more or less worked out and waiting for the chips to fall.:whine

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I wonder if it means they have potential deals lined up already but just waiting on FA. No way to know. Gives me hope. The way Lamarcus has bee unfollowing an deleting tweets something is potentially already more or less worked out and waiting for the chips to fall.:whine

I agree. It's likely they'd have tentative deals in place, waiting for other details before they'd be executed. It's possible they had one such deal during the draft but didn't pull it off cause a player they liked didn't fall to the pick they could get, or something along these lines. Players didn't generally slide too much from their expected positions during this draft, unlike previous ones, and the Spurs aren't the type of team that would trade for a pick without knowing if their guy would be there.

[CGD]

I wonder if it means they have potential deals lined up already but just waiting on FA. No way to know. Gives me hope. The way Lamarcus has bee unfollowing an deleting tweets something is potentially already more or less worked out and waiting for the chips to fall.:whine

I bet PG for LMA straight up is a standing deal on the table from Spurs.

With that in the pocket, Indy just feeling out the market for PG and trying to see if they can work something out with Ainge. What I don't know Is if Hayward staying in Utah helps or hurts our chances at PG.

[SAGirl]

I agree. It's likely they'd have tentative deals in place, waiting for other details before they'd be executed. It's possible they had one such deal during the draft but didn't pull it off cause a player they liked didn't fall to the pick they could get, or something along these lines. Players didn't generally slide too much from their expected positions during this draft, unlike previous ones, and the Spurs aren't the type of team that would trade for a pick without knowing if their guy would be there.
Great point.

[Ice009]

I bet PG for LMA straight up is a standing deal on the table from Spurs.

With that in the pocket, Indy just feeling out the market for PG and trying to see if they can work something out with Ainge. What I don't know Is if Hayward staying in Utah helps or hurts our chances at PG.

Is Hayward definitely staying in Utah? or are you saying IF he stays in Utah?

[ceperez]

Not if Hill wants a max, which people were suggesting during the season, after he turned down the extension with Utah.

I don't think Spurs are getting Hill considering we just got White and have Murray.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I don't think Spurs are getting Hill considering we just got White and have Murray.

The Spurs actually have 3 oversized point guards now (Dijon, Fathead and Mini Fathead), but none of them are ready yet to run an offence full time. Getting George Hill helps tremendously. We've seen what he's capable of at Utah.

[Spurs9]

The Spurs actually have 3 oversized point guards now (Dijon, Fathead and Mini Fathead), but none of them are ready yet to run an offence full time. Getting George Hill helps tremendously. We've seen what he's capable of at Utah.

:lmao

[ace3g]

Donatas Urbonas @Urbodo
(https://twitter.com/Urbodo) 3h (https://twitter.com/Urbodo/status/878556680178552832)
Donatas Motiejunas confirmed he is eligible to sign contract with Brooklyn Nets this summer despite Houston matched their offer in November





Donatas Urbonas @Urbodo
(https://twitter.com/Urbodo) 1d (https://twitter.com/Urbodo/status/877919185023582209)
Donatas Motiejunas told 14 NBA teams reached out his agent. D-Mo prefers short term offers with suitable game style for him and minutes

[CGD]

Is Hayward definitely staying in Utah? or are you saying IF he stays in Utah?

If

[jyra]

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I don't see the need with Bertans on the roster. I wouldn't mind him as a 5th big but he clearly wants regular minutes to cash in next offseason.

[TimDunkem]

He'll probably land in ATL or Washington.

[Frederic]

I don't see the need with Bertans on the roster. I wouldn't mind him as a 5th big but he clearly wants regular minutes to cash in next offseason.

I don't know if he would be a good replacement should LMA be traded, but it looks like he has become an efficient post player as well as a decent defender

https://bballbreakdown.com/2015/01/05/donatas-motiejunas-scouting-report/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2392055-how-donatas-motiejunas-became-houston-rockets-best-low-post-scorer-threat

and he's still a good passer
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2017/1/29/14226682/donatas-motiejunas-new-orleans-pelicans-strengths-fit-alvin-gentry-propel-2017-postseason

[ducks]

Spurs could have a deal in place for suns lottery pick for LMA

[ducks]

The Spurs actually have 3 oversized point guards now (Dijon, Fathead and Mini Fathead), but none of them are ready yet to run an offence full time. Getting George Hill helps tremendously. We've seen what he's capable of at Utah.

George hill would have had to improve a lot since he was a spur

[duncan2150]

878671665676382208

I don't see the need with Bertans on the roster. I wouldn't mind him as a 5th big but he clearly wants regular minutes to cash in next offseason.

I prefer terrence Jones but why not motejunas if it's for cheap

[objective]

Montiejunas and Jones are probably both minimum guys, which works to keep cap space

[Joseph Kony]

D-Mo i wouldn't mind off the bench

[Chinook]

I'd rather have Montiejunas than Jones given that the team may not have a center besides Pau lined up, and they now have four players who could play significant PF minutes with the organization, not counting LMA.

[TD 21]

I wonder if it means they have potential deals lined up already but just waiting on FA. No way to know. Gives me hope. The way Lamarcus has bee unfollowing an deleting tweets something is potentially already more or less worked out and waiting for the chips to fall.:whine

:tu

[duncan2150]

I'd rather have Montiejunas than Jones given that the team may not have a center besides Pau lined up, and they now have four players who could play significant PF minutes with the organization, not counting LMA.

I agree montejunas Is more a center but Jones Is a better rebounder and shot blocker... Something We need and Also a better post player imo.

[BatManu20]

This dude can't get enough attention. LaVar Kardashian tbh. Cashing in on his 15.


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[TimDunkem]

Just more $$$. Good for him.

He's annoying as fuck, but good for him.

[GSH]

They're talking $33M per year for Hill, and Teodosic is hoping to get as much as $10M per for three years? Maybe that's the plan.

[TimDunkem]

Teodosic finally going to the NBA? I'll believe it when I see it.

[gambit1990]

would take montiejunas as well.

[SpursFan86]

878738280950489088

Don't think CP3/Harden would be a very good fit at all...

[SPURt]

878738280950489088

Don't think CP3/Harden would be a very good fit at all...
Me too, CP3 in Houston makes them worse. Why would captain half court join a team that uses a system that would ignore his strengths?

[Ice009]

Spurs could have a deal in place for suns lottery pick for LMA

Where are you getting that from? I thought the Suns said "no" during the draft to that.

[TimDunkem]

Ducks can't even speak or type in proper English. I wouldn't listen to anything he says.

[Mr. Body]

878738280950489088

Don't think CP3/Harden would be a very good fit at all...

It'd be absolutely terrible.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[TimDunkem]

How could that possibly help our team? :smokin

[BatManu20]

Lol

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[Ron Swanson]

Lol

704817499896999936

:lol

[raybies]

Lol

704817499896999936
whatever keeps the fans coming i guess

[Jdspur20]

Lol

704817499896999936

:rollin

[SAGirl]

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[BatManu20]

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[timtonymanu]

Lol

704817499896999936

The Suns still have that scrub?

[sasaint]

878738280950489088

Don't think CP3/Harden would be a very good fit at all...

I hope this is true! That would be a much worse fit than LMA and the Spurs. The Rockettes would be in disarray. Plus Paul would then be unavailable to the Spurs. Plus they would have to dump a couple of guys I would like. I don't think Pringles would deal directly with us unless he was absolutely backed into a corner. For the money, I would love to figure out a way to add Beverley. I don't really want to pay either CP3 or GHill. But I'd gladly take on Beverley's $6MM to be Dijon's safety net as Claxton/Avery were to young Tony.

[TimDunkem]

Bev at 6 mill is so much better value than 25-30 mill a year for Hill.

Rockets would never deal with us, unfortunately.

[SAGirl]

I hope this is true! That would be a much worse fit than LMA and the Spurs. The Rockettes would be in disarray. Plus Paul would then be unavailable to the Spurs. Plus they would have to dump a couple of guys I would like. I don't think Pringles would deal directly with us unless he was absolutely backed into a corner. For the money, I would love to figure out a way to add Beverley. I don't really want to pay either CP3 or GHill. But I'd gladly take on Beverley's $6MM to be Dijon's safety net as Claxton/Avery were to young Tony.
I suppose it's all about leverage... specially if Spurs are moving on in a different direction, which we can't know.. so CP3 out there ruffling feathers.

[sasaint]

I don't think Spurs are getting Hill considering we just got White and have Murray.

We are gonna sign a cheap veteran to be the safety net until Tony gets back. I think Dijon is the opening day starter. I would like to get Beverley, but I can't see how. With the LMA brouhaha we have too many holes to put all our cap eggs in a Point Guard basket.

[SAGirl]

We are gonna sign a cheap veteran to be the safety net until Tony gets back. I think Dijon is the opening day starter. I would like to get Beverley, but I can't see how. With the LMA brouhaha we have too many holes to put all our cap eggs in a Point Guard basket.
I am not convinced.

Originally I thought any trades were to open up cap space, but LMA threw a wrench in and the Spurs appear to be looking for any way to improve the team... so they are in the market to get the best that they can get, if that player is at the PG spot I think they take him...

[sasaint]

I prefer terrence Jones but why not motejunas if it's for cheap

I have always liked Terence, and I never understood why he gets so little love. Doesn't he (or didn't he) have some kind of health issue?

[SAGirl]

I have always liked Terence, and I never understood why he gets so little love. Doesn't he (or didn't he) have some kind of health issue?
very serious.. he was half paralized or something. hasn't been the same player since.

[sasaint]

I am not convinced.

Originally I thought any trades were to open up cap space, but LMA threw a wrench in and the Spurs appear to be looking for any way to improve the team... so they are in the market to get the best that they can get, if that player is at the PG spot I think they take him...

I don't expect the market to be so restricted that we will be "forced" to take a PG in return from LMA when we have other glaring needs - especially if we trade Danny, too... that is unless Pop is gonna change his stripes and start going full bore with young guys.

[SAGirl]

I don't expect the market to be so restricted that we will be "forced" to take a PG in return from LMA when we have other glaring needs - especially if we trade Danny, too... that is unless Pop is gonna change his stripes and start going full bore with young guys.
frankly I have no idea what they are doing but I really don't expect him to be starting. PG was their priority and I believe it still is. However, they may have to take detours in different directions at this point than their original intention.

[Nathan89]

Seems like a long shot for the Spurs to flip LMA in a package for PG. Or for even a sign and trade type situation with another team. Either scenario is probably where the Spurs would get the best value. While other scenarios seem more pennies on the dollar which is what I expect to happen.

So if that is the position we are in then I'm going to target a bigman in the trade. We can still get play making on the team by signing a number of pgs, Hayward, or Blake. We can also get a playmaker next year. I'd trade LMA to the Bulls for Robin Lopez and Denzel Valentine. Bulls love the big names as shown by Rondo and Wade acquisitions. Spurs get a center on a decent contract for 2 years and a prospect. We don't have overpay for a center or wait years to develop one either.

[MaNu4Tres]

Seems like a long shot for the Spurs to flip LMA in a package for PG. Or for even a sign and trade type situation with another team. Either scenario is probably where the Spurs would get the best value. While other scenarios seem more pennies on the dollar which is what I expect to happen.

So if that is the position we are in then I'm going to target a bigman in the trade. We can still get play making on the team by signing a number of pgs, Hayward, or Blake. We can also get a playmaker next year. I'd trade LMA to the Bulls for Robin Lopez and Denzel Valentine. Bulls love the big names as shown by Rondo and Wade acquisitions. Spurs get a center on a decent contract for 2 years and a prospect. We don't have overpay for a center or wait years to develop one either.

Spurs will dump him for barely anything if they can get a replacement to commit via Free Agency. (Millsap, Blake, Ibaka or a combination of Pat Patterson or Taj Gibson, Terrence Jones & another player)

If they cant via Free Agency, then theyll explore trading for salary.

[ace3g]

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[duncan2150]

very serious.. he was half paralized or something. hasn't been the same player since.

he was good last year and played 51 games but yes that injury was pretty serious

don't know if it still some red flags about that but i really like the player.

[ace3g]

David Pick @IAmDPick
(https://twitter.com/IAmDPick) 1h (https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/879087465302294529)
Source: Euroleague star Chris Singleton had sit down interviews with two NBA teams. He's poised to opt-out of his deal with Panathinaikos.

[SAGirl]

878978567714988032

Hill very likely out of there and they know it?

[TimDunkem]

Interesting.

[spurraider21]

just sign livingston for 2 years instead of hill for 4 or 5. he'd cost a lot less.
and suck a lot more

[look_at_g_shred]

Question, if it was between keeping Simmons at 10 mil or signing Livingston for the same amount, what would you do?

[Spurs9]

Question, if it was between keeping Simmons at 10 mil or signing Livingston for the same amount, what would you do?

Simmons

[TimDunkem]

Simmons all day, every day, twice on Sunday, and I wouldn't even think twice.

Livingston is slightly underrated though. He eats up small guards like Mills alive. :lol

[hooperflash]

Simmons all day, every day, twice on Sunday, and I wouldn't even think twice.

Livingston is slightly underrated though. He eats up small guards like Mills alive. :lol

Livingston has never missed a fadeaway in his life, tbh.

[TimDunkem]

Livingston has never missed a fadeaway in his life, tbh.
At least not on Patty Mills. :lol

[BatManu20]

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[tbdog]

Is it possible to get Gali and Redick and Gibson in exchange of dumping Green and LMA?

[CGD]

Lol

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LOL