Finals official thread, GSW vs Cavs, the re-rematch

[lefty]

:lol so much for parity

[Clipper Nation]

LeGOAT is ringing again and all DK can do is watch from the couch and cry about it.

[lefty]

LeGOAT is ringing again and all DK can do is watch from the couch and cry about it.

:lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

whose going to tune in to watch this shit?

[IronMexican]

whose going to tune in to watch this shit?

I will.

A lot better than watching the Spurs play.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Don't let the Pacers series fool y'all. Cavs are done. Boston or Washington will end their run.

[Robz4000]

Don't let the Pacers series fool y'all. Cavs are done. Boston or Washington will end their run.

:lmao Boston

[lefty]

So....

[lefty]

Cavs in 5-6 imo

[Trainwreck2100]

Cavs in 5-6 imo

:lol calm down speed racer the cavs have an entire series to lose one of their starters

[lefty]

:lol calm down speed racer the cavs have an entire series to lose one of their starters

:lol Warriors are that lucky

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol Warriors are that lucky

:lol Lebron's the good guy now

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Cavs win hopefully but either way if this series happens for the 3rd straight year... it's 3 strikes and you're out, Kike Silver. Fucking lib elitist jew jewing up what was once my favorite sport. Rather watch wrestling, paint drying, or professional rock-paper-scissors. Goodell makes you look bad

[lefty]

:lol Lebron's the good guy now

Better human being than MJ

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Lebron's the good guy now
LeGOAT has always been the good guy, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_08EVYUAAAKxD-.jpg

[daslicer]

:lol calm down speed racer the cavs have an entire series to lose one of their starters

:lmao Have to admit this is too funny.

[lefty]

Bump imo

[140]

:lol today's NBA

[lefty]

:lol today's NBA

[UZER]

Yawn

[daslicer]

Yawn

This. Will not watch unless there is 20 seconds left on the clock and the Warriors are about to get eliminated.

[AlexJones]

Warriors in 5

[21209]

There will be no 3-1 choke this year. The Kevin Durant signing guarantees it.

Warriors will close it out in 5.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

There will be no 3-1 choke this year. The Kevin Durant signing guarantees it.

Warriors will close it out in 5.
fuck no. Cavs are the better team. Cavs in 5-6

[Thread]

We'll see if that booty hole is tight in California. If it's tight, real tight then State is doomed. But, if that hole is loose, real loose then State will prevail & James will be thwarted a while more.

[ambchang]

We'll see if that booty hole is tight in California. If it's tight, real tight then State is doomed. But, if that hole is loose, real loose then State will prevail & James will be thwarted a while more.

Covering both sides like the chickenshit you are. Then when the results are know, you will try to act like you knew all along. What a Chickenshit.

[benefactor]

Cavs in 6 tbh

[Capt Bringdown]

Unfortunately, I think the addition of KD will put GS over the Cavs.
Warriors in 5.

[dfens]

I pray the cavs just ruff up these faggots, win or lose it doesn't matter, just bullying this ladyboy team will do it for me :toast

[UZER]

Best case scenario: Cavs win meaning Warriors have choked again, and have to eat more humble pie after acting like douchebags for the last 3 years and only winning one ring. Durant still ringless.

Second best case scenario: Warriors in in 4 or 5 blowouts so people will see how bitch made KDs move to GS was.

[dfens]

Best case scenario: Cavs win meaning Warriors have choked again, and have to eat more humble pie after acting like douchebags for the last 3 years and only winning one ring. Durant still ringless.

Second best case scenario: Warriors in in 4 or 5 blowouts so people will see how bitch made KDs move to GS was.

The 2nd best case is lebron losing but still getting FMVP :lol That would absolutely kill the warriors from inside.

[MultiTroll]

Second best case scenario: Warriors in in 4 or 5 blowouts so people will see how bitch made KDs move to GS was.
Nope. Fake News media including ABC - ESPN - Disney would endlessly promote their homo Durant as being part and parcel to the blowouts.

Just need The LeBrons to eliminate these frauds.

Kawhi you the real Champ.

[ambchang]

It is ilarious to see ESPN justifying that Lebron makes all these finals not because the Eastern conference is horrible, but because Lebron is so dominant.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents-19449451/nba-playoffs-tales-woe-lebron-defeated-foes


This is a scene that has played out repeatedly over the past decade. Teams at the top falling under James' sword or rising challengers smothered in the East, which he's won for the seventh consecutive year and eighth time in the past 11 seasons. James has conquered the conference like no one since Bill Russell, when the league was significantly different and there was no salary cap or free agency to act as a buffer to dynasties.

Which teams were at the top? Pistons were 4 years removed from their last championship. Celtics were simply too old. Who else? And upcoming team? Like who? Pacers? I can't even think of another team with any potential in the East the last 10 years or so outside of Lebron teams. Just face it, Lebron's Eastern rivals were historically bad. Not saying Lebron is not a GOAT candidate, because he is, but stop with the 1984 style history rewriting. The only Eastern team Lebron destroyed were the Heat when he left them.

[IronMexican]

Feeling Golden State in 5.

Hoping for a career ending injury to KD, though.

[lefty]

Lebron : "I didn't go bald like Mike, but I'm getting there"

:lol

[Mark Celibate]

Warriors in 6

[LkrFan]

If LeHype loses an NBA record 5th Finals? I got major j:lolkes

[313]

Hopefully Warriors in four with three blowouts so people can stop trying defend KD's move as good for basketball.

[313]

It is ilarious to see ESPN justifying that Lebron makes all these finals not because the Eastern conference is horrible, but because Lebron is so dominant.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents-19449451/nba-playoffs-tales-woe-lebron-defeated-foes



Which teams were at the top? Pistons were 4 years removed from their last championship. Celtics were simply too old. Who else? And upcoming team? Like who? Pacers? I can't even think of another team with any potential in the East the last 10 years or so outside of Lebron teams. Just face it, Lebron's Eastern rivals were historically bad. Not saying Lebron is not a GOAT candidate, because he is, but stop with the 1984 style history rewriting. The only Eastern team Lebron destroyed were the Heat when he left them.The worst part is casuals eat this narrative up.

The best player LeBron has stopped from getting a ring in the East is Carmelo Anthony :lmao

[ambchang]

If LeHype loses an NBA record 5th Finals? I got major j:lolkes

Your logo lost 8 times.

[Thomas82]

It is ilarious to see ESPN justifying that Lebron makes all these finals not because the Eastern conference is horrible, but because Lebron is so dominant.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents-19449451/nba-playoffs-tales-woe-lebron-defeated-foes



Which teams were at the top? Pistons were 4 years removed from their last championship. Celtics were simply too old. Who else? And upcoming team? Like who? Pacers? I can't even think of another team with any potential in the East the last 10 years or so outside of Lebron teams. Just face it, Lebron's Eastern rivals were historically bad. Not saying Lebron is not a GOAT candidate, because he is, but stop with the 1984 style history rewriting. The only Eastern team Lebron destroyed were the Heat when he left them.

+1

[dfens]

It is ilarious to see ESPN justifying that Lebron makes all these finals not because the Eastern conference is horrible, but because Lebron is so dominant.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents-19449451/nba-playoffs-tales-woe-lebron-defeated-foes



Which teams were at the top? Pistons were 4 years removed from their last championship. Celtics were simply too old. Who else? And upcoming team? Like who? Pacers? I can't even think of another team with any potential in the East the last 10 years or so outside of Lebron teams. Just face it, Lebron's Eastern rivals were historically bad. Not saying Lebron is not a GOAT candidate, because he is, but stop with the 1984 style history rewriting. The only Eastern team Lebron destroyed were the Heat when he left them.

dwight orlando >>> thuggets
tosb celtcs > tosb lakers
bulls + mvp rose < okc
atlanta 60 wins = clippers
peak indiana > harden rockets
heat =< mavs/spurs
cavs = warriors
new celtics > trailblazers
raptors > grizzlies

key players injured on both sides of the fence (love, kwahi, cp3, irving, paul george, kobe, etc)

You narrative is funny but false, the conferences were about the same imo, lebron just played on the best team and everybody ran from the east or stayed in the west. If the east was so weak then a star like cp3/peak howard/ would've picked an eastern team and gave heat/cavs some competition. The smart ones didn't, while the dumb ones (carmelo) did. They were dumb because nobody wanted to come to compete in the east and their teams had to overpay, thus they were not competitive. Basic market economics, a monopoly in a weak market is not a hard competitor under free trade rules.

Jordan > Lebron tbh but stop it with the bullshit.

[DMC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_08EVYUAAAKxD-.jpg

Rudy Gobert, David Lee, Blake Griffin...

[DMC]

dwight orlando >>> thuggets
tosb celtcs > tosb lakers
bulls + mvp rose < okc
atlanta 60 wins = clippers
peak indiana > harden rockets
heat =< mavs/spurs
cavs = warriors
new celtics > trailblazers
raptors > grizzlies

key players injured on both sides of the fence (love, kwahi, cp3, irving, paul george, kobe, etc)

You narrative is funny but false, the conferences were about the same imo, lebron just played on the best team and everybody ran from the east or stayed in the west. If the east was so weak then a star like cp3/peak howard/ would've picked an eastern team and gave heat/cavs some competition. The smart ones didn't, while the dumb ones (carmelo) did. They were dumb because nobody wanted to come to compete in the east and their teams had to overpay, thus they were not competitive. Basic market economics, a monopoly in a weak market is not a hard competitor under free trade rules.

Jordan > Lebron tbh but stop it with the bullshit.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/88/6e/bd/886ebd3706ce5b2aef1f3c043d567bb9.jpg

[Spurtacular]

N/M

[ambchang]

dwight orlando >>> thuggets
tosb celtcs > tosb lakers
bulls + mvp rose < okc
atlanta 60 wins = clippers
peak indiana > harden rockets
heat =< mavs/spurs
cavs = warriors
new celtics > trailblazers
raptors > grizzlies

key players injured on both sides of the fence (love, kwahi, cp3, irving, paul george, kobe, etc)

You narrative is funny but false, the conferences were about the same imo, lebron just played on the best team and everybody ran from the east or stayed in the west. If the east was so weak then a star like cp3/peak howard/ would've picked an eastern team and gave heat/cavs some competition. The smart ones didn't, while the dumb ones (carmelo) did. They were dumb because nobody wanted to come to compete in the east and their teams had to overpay, thus they were not competitive. Basic market economics, a monopoly in a weak market is not a hard competitor under free trade rules.

Jordan > Lebron tbh but stop it with the bullshit.

The three peat lakers were definitely better than the Celtics.

Raptors were and are horrible

You left out the kings, mavs, Suns (not sure why you had thanmvs vs heat cuz lebron is on the heat).
Warriors, jailblazers, clippers are all better than any eastern team lebron faced.

The east has been horrible for years and the teams lebron was on has been ridiculously loaded by any standards since 2011.

The only decent teams outside of lebron that were even remote contenders were the Celtics, and pacers. Maybe the bulls and that was it.

[HarlemHeat37]

Warriors in 5, no games decided by less than 6 IMO..

Warriors are significantly better + the revenge factor..

[dfens]

The three peat lakers were definitely better than the Celtics.

Raptors were and are horrible

You left out the kings, mavs, Suns (not sure why you had thanmvs vs heat cuz lebron is on the heat).
Warriors, jailblazers, clippers are all better than any eastern team lebron faced.

The east has been horrible for years and the teams lebron was on has been ridiculously loaded by any standards since 2011.

The only decent teams outside of lebron that were even remote contenders were the Celtics, and pacers. Maybe the bulls and that was it.

I thought we were talking about east in the lebron era (2007 -> today), thus I didn't add 3 peat lakers, kings, suns. If you wish to extend to that date note that 2004-2005-2006 had some extremely strong indiana, pistons and heat teams. The pistons remain most in memory since the other two teams were either destroyed by the league (malice at the palace) or by injuries (peak wade, a still strong shaq, 'zo, etc). Still, it's pointless to discuss because with the 04-10 cavs rosters lebron had no business in being the finals, regardless of regular season record, which brings me to the final point : regular season record is quite misleading, especially for high pace western teams that apparently made the west tougher (suns/mavs sans a couple of seasons, denver, portland, yao houston) .. these teams had huge flaws and they were exposed time and time again, much like... say... today's rockets or (healthy) clippers or (peak) raptors.

The real heavy hitters were the spurs, the pistons, the short lived peak suns/mavs/heat and then the 08-10 lakers and 08-10 celtics ... if you add the cavs you get exact parity numberswise, but lebron did it with some extraordinarily horrible rosters (either trash or washed up had-had-beens), I'm talking jamario moon, mo williams, sascha pavlovic, eric snow, corpse shaq, corpse antwan jamison, boobie gibson and the like, without picks .. that's a fucking ny level roster.

If you want to compare overall conference strength you have a point but rings aren't won by 5-8 seeds, so you got zero position on this one tbh.

[ambchang]

I thought we were talking about east in the lebron era (2007 -> today), thus I didn't add 3 peat lakers, kings, suns. If you wish to extend to that date note that 2004-2005-2006 had some extremely strong indiana, pistons and heat teams. The pistons remain most in memory since the other two teams were either destroyed by the league (malice at the palace) or by injuries (peak wade, a still strong shaq, 'zo, etc). Still, it's pointless to discuss because with the 04-10 cavs rosters lebron had no business in being the finals, regardless of regular season record, which brings me to the final point : regular season record is quite misleading, especially for high pace western teams that apparently made the west tougher (suns/mavs sans a couple of seasons, denver, portland, yao houston) .. these teams had huge flaws and they were exposed time and time again, much like... say... today's rockets or (healthy) clippers or (peak) raptors.

The real heavy hitters were the spurs, the pistons, the short lived peak suns/mavs/heat and then the 08-10 lakers and 08-10 celtics ... if you add the cavs you get exact parity numberswise, but lebron did it with some extraordinarily horrible rosters (either trash or washed up had-had-beens), I'm talking jamario moon, mo williams, sascha pavlovic, eric snow, corpse shaq, corpse antwan jamison, boobie gibson and the like, without picks .. that's a fucking ny level roster.

If you want to compare overall conference strength you have a point but rings aren't won by 5-8 seeds, so you got zero position on this one tbh.

I thought you were comparing lebron competition vs Duncan or shaq competition.

Point is lebrons got an easy path throughout. Thus able to make finals after finals.

[dfens]

I thought you were comparing lebron competition vs Duncan or shaq competition.

Point is lebrons got an easy path throughout. Thus able to make finals after finals.

First, you beat what opponents you get. Second, you are either trolling or mentally disabled on this one. Let me break this down for you (full playoff trajectory):

2006: lebron carried the worst roster in basketball to wins over 42 win washington (arenas-butler-jamison) and went to 7 against the team that took san antonio to 7 in the 05' finals. overachieved easily.
2007: swept washington and new jersey, beat detroit with that legendary game, got swept by the a spurs team >>>>>>>>> his team. overachieved easily.
2008: beat washington, and lost in a tough 7 game series against the big 3 boston, giving them their toughest series of the playoffs (lakers included). overachieved.
2009: swept the conference till they lost in 6 to a perfect countermatch (59 win orlando). the only other allstar was mo williams :lol. overachieved again.
2010: beat chicago and then lost in 6 to the best team in the conference, during the delonte west saga :lol. On par with expectations, only casuals thought they'd beat boston.
2011: destroyed their conference (56 win boston and 62 win win chicago included) and lost to a great mavs team. choke.
2012: destroyed ny, boston and chicago (they were on pace for 55 and 60+ in a shortened season) and creamed okc (durant, westbrook, harden, ibaka, etc) in the finals. On par with expectations, ring. bosh suffered from injuries.
2013: went through chicago and an underrated (and bad matchup) indiana, then won in one of the all time great series in basketball against the spurs. Should've lost but put extraordinary numbers and won. Wade played like shit. Overachieved.
2014: went through 56 win indiana and lost to the 62 win spurs (big favorite), heat were plagued with injuries. Put crazy efficiency against a defense of kwahi (m2m) and duncan (shadowing). On par with expectations.
2015: beat 50 win chicago and 60 win atlanta without kevin love on a newly formed team. lost in the finals 4-2 to a 67 win warriors (after gm1 his second option was matthew dellavedova :lmao), putting historic numbers. Almost won FMVP. Easily overachived.
2016: we all know the story, coming back from 3-1 against a 73 win team ... huge overachievment.
2017: taking care of business, probably his best overall playoff stats per career, if they take at least 2 games they are on par with expectations, 3 games they overachieve and win is a huge overachievement.

Besides 2011 he was always either on par with expectations or he overachieved. You're doing more mental gymnastics then kobefan, lebron is easily the best player since jordan, with a slim chance to overpass Bdadkiller in the next 3-4 years, just be greatful you get to see such talent.

If you really think lebron had an easy path you are either a casual or a biased idiot, or both. We're done here tbh.

[ambchang]

First, you beat what opponents you get. Second, you are either trolling or mentally disabled on this one. Let me break this down for you (full playoff trajectory):

2006: lebron carried the worst roster in basketball to wins over 42 win washington (arenas-butler-jamison) and went to 7 against the team that took san antonio to 7 in the 05' finals. overachieved easily.
2007: swept washington and new jersey, beat detroit with that legendary game, got swept by the a spurs team >>>>>>>>> his team. overachieved easily.
2008: beat washington, and lost in a tough 7 game series against the big 3 boston, giving them their toughest series of the playoffs (lakers included). overachieved.
2009: swept the conference till they lost in 6 to a perfect countermatch (59 win orlando). the only other allstar was mo williams :lol. overachieved again.
2010: beat chicago and then lost in 6 to the best team in the conference, during the delonte west saga :lol. On par with expectations, only casuals thought they'd beat boston.
2011: destroyed their conference (56 win boston and 62 win win chicago included) and lost to a great mavs team. choke.
2012: destroyed ny, boston and chicago (they were on pace for 55 and 60+ in a shortened season) and creamed okc (durant, westbrook, harden, ibaka, etc) in the finals. On par with expectations, ring. bosh suffered from injuries.
2013: went through chicago and an underrated (and bad matchup) indiana, then won in one of the all time great series in basketball against the spurs. Should've lost but put extraordinary numbers and won. Wade played like shit. Overachieved.
2014: went through 56 win indiana and lost to the 62 win spurs (big favorite), heat were plagued with injuries. Put crazy efficiency against a defense of kwahi (m2m) and duncan (shadowing). On par with expectations.
2015: beat 50 win chicago and 60 win atlanta without kevin love on a newly formed team. lost in the finals 4-2 to a 67 win warriors (after gm1 his second option was matthew dellavedova :lmao), putting historic numbers. Almost won FMVP. Easily overachived.
2016: we all know the story, coming back from 3-1 against a 73 win team ... huge overachievment.
2017: taking care of business, probably his best overall playoff stats per career, if they take at least 2 games they are on par with expectations, 3 games they overachieve and win is a huge overachievement.

Besides 2011 he was always either on par with expectations or he overachieved. You're doing more mental gymnastics then kobefan, lebron is easily the best player since jordan, with a slim chance to overpass Bdadkiller in the next 3-4 years, just be greatful you get to see such talent.

If you really think lebron had an easy path you are either a casual or a biased idiot, or both. We're done here tbh.


Please read the original posted article and the narrative.

Then tell me if it's you or me who's retarded.