Why can't Dedmon be a Poor Man's Ben Wallace?

[playbonner15]

He can just play defense and score like 2pts and get 15 rebounds. Hope the Spurs get to 2nd round and he models his game to Big Ben

[Chinook]

Because Wallace was so much better than Dedmon at everything but midrange shooting that he can't be described in the same terms at all.

Dedmon should strive for being a poor man's Mahinmi

[sananspursfan21]

Dedmon giveth, then Dedmon taketh away

[urunobili]

I like Dedmon... he likely celebrates too much for Pop's taste... lotsa chest bumpin'

[apalisoc_9]

He doesn't have the discipline and Defensive IQ to be an all-time great defender. You can't be an all time great defender relying on just athletisim. Dedman is way to "jumpy".

[Russ]

Orlando foolishly gave up on both of them.

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[UZER]

He doesn't have the discipline and Defensive IQ to be an all-time great defender. You can't be an all time great defender relying on just athletisim. Dedman is way to "jumpy".

This is why pop loved Bonner. He never jumped, and was always standing in the right spot. Of course he couldn't rebound in traffic, block shots, or have any defensive impact down low, but hey he was always standing in the right place.

[playbonner15]

I guess he relies too much on his athleticism. Guess Detroit will take him then. Had high hopes when he was signed by the Spurs but looks like he got exposed even before the Memphis series

[Proxy]

dude, Big Ben is HoF material

[TheGreatYacht]

Deadman the foul machine playing against the team leading the league in Free Throws, Houston? Yeah, no.

[Dex]

Ben Wallace was huge. Not just tall...like a fucking behemoth.

Dedmon is gonna have to start eating a lot more Whataburger and hitting the gym more to even get in the same category as Big Ben.

[Seventyniner]

Ben Wallace was huge. Not just tall...like a fucking behemoth.

Dedmon is gonna have to start eating a lot more Whataburger and hitting the gym more to even get in the same category as Big Ben.

Big Ben is 6-9, listed at 240 on bkref. I thought I remembered him being somewhat undersized for a center. Still a fantastic defensive player. I couldn't find an official number on his wingspan but 7-2 is listed in a couple of places.

I always thought that Dedmon's ceiling would be a poor man's DeAndre Jordan, albeit with a much better FT stroke.

[Dex]

Big Ben is 6-9, listed at 240 on bkref. I thought I remembered him being somewhat undersized for a center. Still a fantastic defensive player. I couldn't find an official number on his wingspan but 7-2 is listed in a couple of places.

I always thought that Dedmon's ceiling would be a poor man's DeAndre Jordan, albeit with a much better FT stroke.

That's what I mean though. Big Ben wasn't just tall...because he wasn't really THAT tall by NBA bigman standards.

But he was just massive. Stocky base, huge arms, just all muscle. He didn't need to be tall because he'd just power through you.

Dedmon is tall...but he is lanky as shit. I'm really hoping he works on putting on some muscle over the summer. He needs some weight to throw around under the basket if he doesn't want to get boxed out and outworked for rebounds.

[Play Boban]

Because Deadman is trash.

[DMC]

Too dark skinned, doesn't show up well on camera and not very intelligent. Mike Finley overcame it somehow but the Spurs like light skinned blacks.

[Seventyniner]

That's what I mean though. Big Ben wasn't just tall...because he wasn't really THAT tall by NBA bigman standards.

But he was just massive. Stocky base, huge arms, just all muscle. He didn't need to be tall because he'd just power through you.

Dedmon is tall...but he is lanky as shit. I'm really hoping he works on putting on some muscle over the summer. He needs some weight to throw around under the basket if he doesn't want to get boxed out and outworked for rebounds.

I see, I misunderstood when you said he "wasn't just tall."

[SAGirl]

I always thought that Dedmon's ceiling would be a poor man's DeAndre Jordan, albeit with a much better FT stroke.
I thought of this too, and he has a jumper he can show occasionally and some hook shots I have seen.
He needs to clean up his mistakes though.. that is where he's held back and I like his aggressiveness at the basket but sometimes he tries to jam stuff with 3 guys in the paint and he's blocked or stripped when he could pass the ball back out. I don't know why he doesn't ... but it's possible he's such a poor passer (some TO from him have him throwing the ball where there is no one... ) so maybe he just tries to draw a foul.. but let's forget any passing ability whatsoever, if he could limit his mistakes a bit.. he'd be fine for a rotation big in a championship team.. as it is with mistakes added on top of his limitations on offense, we see where he's at: In the deep bench.

[gambit1990]

a better question: why is this a thread?

[BillMc]

Deadman the foul machine playing against the team leading the league in Free Throws, Houston? Yeah, no.
This

[BillMc]

I thought of this too, and he has a jumper he can show occasionally and some hook shots I have seen.
He needs to clean up his mistakes though.. that is where he's held back and I like his aggressiveness at the basket but sometimes he tries to jam stuff with 3 guys in the paint and he's blocked or stripped when he could pass the ball back out. I don't know why he doesn't ... but it's possible he's such a poor passer (some TO from him have him throwing the ball where there is no one... ) so maybe he just tries to draw a foul.. but let's forget any passing ability whatsoever, if he could limit his mistakes a bit.. he'd be fine for a rotation big in a championship team.. as it is with mistakes added on top of his limitations on offense, we see where he's at: In the deep bench.

Also this

[spurraider21]

a better question: why is this a thread?this should be the first response to all your threads

[Horse]

He gets called for bullshit fouls all game

[GSH]

I don't understand. Deadmon IS a poor man's Ben Wallace. A broke-assed, homeless, derelict man's Ben Wallace.

[Down Under]

This guy is the best rim protector in the league, who has improved his finishing. Once he learns to stay groundbound more and go straight up when necessary, he'll be a monster. Anyone that started playing organised ball at 18 is still learning the game, let alone learning the NBA.

[daslicer]

Ben had a higher basketball IQ then Dedmon. Ben knew when to rotate on defense and could guard pick and rolls along with switching on screens much better than Dedmon. Dedmon also has a tendency to rack up a lot of stupid fouls through out the game which is something Ben rarely did. I think Dedmon can be a defensive anchor but he has to get smarter and stop fouling too easily.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't get why he gets a pass for being trash just because he learned to play at 18.... I'd understand if he was 23 or 24, but he'll be 28 soon. He's played basketball for a decade and he still has no idea where to be on the offensive side.

Even Jeff Errors found himself in more scoring opportunities. He just couldn't catch or dunk.

[ElNono]

He's magnitudes better than Mahinmi will ever be, IMO... that's not saying much though...

[dabom]

He's magnitudes better than Mahinmi will ever be, IMO... that's not saying much though...

[Darius Bieber]

Mentioning Big Ben and Dedmon in the same sentence should be punishable by death. :lol

[Holden_Caulfield]

why cant kyle anderson be a poor man's magic johnson?

[playbonner15]

why cant kyle anderson be a poor man's magic johnson?
Instead of aids he should contract gonorrhea :lol

[kobyz]

The biggest problem with him is lack of confident and assertiveness, he could have been like Clint Capella...

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWXpyrfEuYo

[buttsR4rebounding]

why cant kyle anderson be a poor man's magic johnson?


Instead of aids he should contract gonorrhea :lol

:lmao

[r0drig0lac]

wtf, because Ben is one of the greatest defensive players of all time

[Joseph Kony]

a poor man's ben wallace? so dwight howard? :lol

[pgardn]

Because Dedmon can't lift small buildings?