You can use this thread to apologize to Tony Parker.

[midnightpulp]

You know who you are.

And I'm always right. I said for the Spurs to have any kind of shot, they would need a 3rd player who is a CONSISTENT threat to score an efficient 20 points, and the only player still capable of that was Tony Parker. Guess what happens if Tony was injured in this series or parked on the bench (like some idiots wanted)?

And if Tony "Enriques" the next series, the Spurs are fucked. Simple as that. House, Manu, Green can't do what he does. Tony is the 3rd option. That's all there is to it.

[Spurs9]

Glad I didn't change my username tbh

[Splits]

What. A. Fucking. Stud.

Jesus. Fuck.

This guy...

[spursistan]

Helmet-Krew free Zone :lmao..

[Keepin' it real]

"Tony Parker sucks." -- Spurstalk

[hater]

Forgive them Tony for they know not their heads from their assholes

[jermaine]

I'm sorry Parker.... I've never been a fan of yours, but you put on a show tonight. As a matter fact, you've showed out this whole series. Thank you sir!!!

[Kool Bob Love]

https://ballahaterz.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/parkergaybigxq9.jpg

[spurraider21]

i never guessed in my wildest dreams that parker would show up like he did this series :lol... my legit hope was just that he wouldn't be a liability

[DAF86]

3rd? Who's the 2nd consistent 20 pts threat? :lol

[Robz4000]

:worthy: MVParker :worthy:

[NASpurs]

:worthy: MVParker :worthy:

[100%duncan]

2nd best player in the team.

[Spurminator]

It's a shame how many people have been able to witness the best point guard in team history for almost two decades and failed to appreciate it.

[Russ]

The "Krew." (Isn't that what they're called.)

:flag:

[Splits]

27 points on 14 shots in a road closeout game.

Think about that, haters

[Mugen]

:lol I was wrong tbh...

[james evans]

I aint apologizing for shit. he's played like trash for most of the year and finally picked it up the last 3 games.

[Robz4000]

It's a shame how many people have been able to witness the best point guard in team history for almost two decades and failed to appreciate it.

A lot of us appreciated him, but Parker was atrocious most of the season while being the second highest paid player on the team. The criticism was warranted, but he's more than earning that paycheck so far these playoffs.

[midnightpulp]

3rd? Who's the 2nd consistent 20 pts threat? :lol

Supposed to be LMA.

I can't criticize him this series, though. Memphis is built to stop players like him. He should (hopefully) feast on Houston.

[Spurminator]

A lot of us appreciated him, but Parker was atrocious most of the season while being the second highest paid player on the team. The criticism was warranted, but he's more than earning that paycheck so far these playoffs.

Hall of Fame veterans past their primes are still very often among the highest paid players on their teams.

[DarrinS]

Bad person played well

[BD24]

The "Krew." (Isn't that what they're called.)

:flag:
I just call them faggots personally. But that works as well I guess.

[lefty20]

I solemnly swear to not criticize Parker, for the rest of the week.

[Chinook]

Only thing the team can do is hope their guys are enough. Would be nice for Manu to come back too. I disagree that Parker needs to be this guy every series. More consistent D and move even scoring for guys like Green, Manu, Lee and Pau would make a huge difference.

[DPG21920]

Only thing the team can do is hope their guys are enough. Would be nice for Manu to come back too. I disagree that Parker needs to be this guy every series. More consistent D and move even scoring for guys like Green, Manu, Lee and Pau would make a huge difference.

Absoultely - due to MEM hot shooting from game 3 on along with most role players putting up goose eggs, SA needed TP. Normally, you should not rely on TP so much to score. The bench needs to step up - it's the SA way.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Great game!! But he better be ready next series because Beverly is as tough as they get.

[SpursBig3s]

I'll eat my crow. Parker proved me way wrong and balled out this series. But unlike most of these faggots on this board, I still cheer my ass off for him

[Cry Havoc]

The little helmet krew nowhere to be found tonight on SpursTalk. :lol

[DarrinS]

I'll eat my crow. Parker proved me way wrong and balled out this series. But unlike most of these faggots on this board, I still cheer my ass off for him

I'll be honest -- I don't like TP, but, at the end of the day, I'm a fan of the team. He played fantastic.

[hater]

Bad person played well

Bad poster

Analized well

[midnightpulp]

The little helmet krew nowhere to be found tonight on SpursTalk. :lol

Dabom is having a nice meltdown, but that little bitch gambit is MIA. Probably crying into a comic book right now.

[Robz4000]

Hall of Fame veterans past their primes are still very often among the highest paid players on their teams.

And are often hated by their fans because of it; the Spurs were/are in desperate need of consistent offense from the guard position since Green/Manu/Mills aren't consistent, Murray is young, and Simmons just isn't the answer. Parker's contract has been a hindrance towards getting one while playing as bad as any of the other five guards. Glad he's producing in the playoffs and hope he continues; I said earlier in the year that all this team needed to get to another gear was MVParker, so if he keeps this up he'll more than earn that money.

Now if the rest of the team besides Kawhi could get it together that'd be great...

[Seventyniner]

Great game!! But he better be ready next series because Beverly is as tough as they get.

At least Beverly is easier to guard. I think Parker played good D (like 7 on a 0-10 scale) all things considered.

[Play Boban]

MVParker is our only chance tbh. Patty is not a point guard. I've said if all along tbh.

[MannyIsGod]

This fucking fanbase has never appreciated the greatness of Tony Parker. Never.

[SASdynasty!]

Sorry, Tony

-Spurstalk minus TheGreatYaght, Hater, & me

[apalisoc_9]

Do I need to apologize when I specifically called for a Tony Parker 2nd option team in a 5+ page thread?

[Splits]

Dabom is having a nice meltdown, but that little bitch gambit is MIA. Probably crying into a comic book right now.

:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Sorry, Tony

-Spurstalk minus me & TheGreatYaght

I called him 2nd option in a 5+ page thread. You wanted him to be a bench guy. Don't act high now.

[FkLA]

Great, unexpected series by HOTS. Dude deserves to bang every teammate's significant other tonight, no doubt about it.

Let's not get carried away though. You aren't always right. You've been dead wrong about Kawhi for example.

[DPG21920]

TP always has the most tough match ups. Conley, Westbrook, CP3, Curry, the list never ends for PG in the West/league.

Bev is an all world defender and it's going to be tough on TP. TP just bested Conley (in this game and did more than enough all series) which is crazy.

I mean, Conley was amazing this series, but he did his damage mostly against Mills and when Pop played slow footed bigs together.

[midnightpulp]

Do I need to apologize when I specifically called for a Tony Parker 2nd option team in a 5+ page thread?

The people who need to apologize know who they are.

[midnightpulp]

Great, unexpected series by HOTS. Dude deserves to bang every teammate's significant other tonight, no doubt about it.

Let's not get carried away though. You aren't always right. You've been dead wrong about Kawhi for example.

:lol How?

[Chris]

You know who you are.

And I'm always right. I said for the Spurs to have any kind of shot, they would need a 3rd player who is a CONSISTENT threat to score an efficient 20 points, and the only player still capable of that was Tony Parker. Guess what happens if Tony was injured in this series or parked on the bench (like some idiots wanted)?

And if Tony "Enriques" the next series, the Spurs are fucked. Simple as that. House, Manu, Green can't do what he does. Tony is the 3rd option. That's all there is to it.

Arn

[FkLA]

:lol How?

His "antiquated" style has helped him look better than anyone these playoffs outside of maybe LeBron, who has a pretty "antiquated" style himself.

[Splits]

Great, unexpected series by HOTS. Dude deserves to bang every teammate's significant other tonight, no doubt about it.

Let's not get carried away though. You aren't always right. You've been dead wrong about Kawhi for example.

And you're a faggot, for example.

[DMC]

http://cdn3-public.ladmedia.fr/var/public/storage/images/look/toutes-les-news-look/mode-tony-parker-donne-de-son-temps-pour-tissot-523132/6487579-1-fre-FR/Mode-Tony-Parker-donne-de-son-temps-pour-Tissot-!_portrait_w674.jpg

[Dex]

Spurs would have been screwed this round without "Porker".

Where are all the haters now? They seem surprisingly absent in this thread considering they've littered their shit all over SpursTalk the last 6 months.

[Splits]

Spurs would have been screwed this round without "Porker".

Where are all the haters now? They seem surprisingly absent in this thread considering they've littered their shit all over SpursTalk the last 6 months.

6 months? More like 6 years.

[Seventyniner]

6 months? More like 6 years.

Truth.

[PopTheGOAT]

No one has the right to say shit after this series, tbh

Even if he reverts back to his regular season self in future series', remember we wouldn't even be here without him. Aldridge completely cowered and TP took over the no. 2 role. If he doesn't do that, it's probably us getting eliminated tonight.

[Cry Havoc]

This fucking fanbase has never appreciated the greatness of Tony Parker. Never.

Holy shit it's Manny. How you been dude?

[Dex]

6 months? More like 6 years.

You're not wrong...but I've learned you have to keep your arguments specific with these morons, otherwise they will bring up one game that Tony played poorly in 2012, and spin that as the reason that the Spurs couldn't beat the Thunder in 2016.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

If we had Game 3 parker all series, we lose

[DarrinS]

This fucking fanbase has never appreciated the greatness of Tony Parker. Never.

Damn dude, you leave for months and come back to white knight for Porker? Awesome

[Splits]

Damn dude, you leave for months and come back to white knight for Porker? Awesome

Place would be a lot better if you left for months, for whatever reason, tbh

[FkLA]

No one has the right to say shit after this series, tbh

Even if he reverts back to his regular season self in future series', remember we wouldn't even be here without him. Aldridge completely cowered and TP took over the no. 2 role. If he doesn't do that, it's probably us getting eliminated tonight.

This is true. It's unfair to expect him to keep this up. I'm hoping he and Paddy can combine for 15-20 PPG the rest of the way, I think that would be much more realistic.

[DarrinS]

Sorry, Tony

-Spurstalk minus TheGreatYaght, Hater, & me

The 3 circle jerking amigos! :lmao

[DarrinS]

Place would be a lot better if you left for months, for whatever reason, tbh

:cry I'm hurt

[Cry Havoc]

Place would be a lot better if you left for months, for whatever reason, tbh

[SAGirl]

Never been a Tony hater but I did make a lengthy post like I tend to do sometimes bc I thought he was done.
Looking back, it's possible towards end of the season he was saving his body, etc and only putting in half the effort. He had a great series and dare I say it, if he doesn't show that tenacity to help Kawhi out Spurs don't pull this out tonight.
:toast
https://i.warosu.org/data/sci/img/0069/46/1418576193331.jpg
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--oMtw00XF--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/vbqmihalo3tvsdjhrsjv.jpg

[Chris]

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fl3.yimg.com%2Fbt%2Fapi%2Fres%2F1.2 %2FBle5eH9ay9msJrKxccUMLw--%2FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztpbD1wbGFuZTtxPTc1O3c9NjA w%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen%2Fperson%2FY sports%2Ftony-parker-basketball-headshot-photo.jpg&f=1

[midnightpulp]

His "antiquated" style has helped him look better than anyone these playoffs outside of maybe LeBron, who has a pretty "antiquated" style himself.

You misinterpret "antiquated" as ineffective. I never said Kawhi's offense style isn't effective. I said it won't be able to keep pace with players/offenses that are 3 pointer/drive centric.

At one point, Kawhi was shooting 100% from the midrange, and might be at about 80% for the series. That's simply unsustainable. All little Wardell has to do to be more efficient than Kawhi shooting something like 60% from the midrange (which would be historic) is shoot 34% from 3.

I don't think you appreciate the hurdle that is.

But if Kawhi manages it, it'll be one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of the series outcome. I wouldn't bet on it, though, especially considering the fact the Warriors will be allowed to get away with murder on defense. He won't get to the line over 10 times in too many matchups against them.

[ducks]

This fucking fanbase has never appreciated the greatness of Tony Parker. Never.

[Budkin]

What. A. Fucking. Stud.

Jesus. Fuck.

This guy...

Couldn't say it better than Splits.

[pgardn]

A lot of us appreciated him, but Parker was atrocious most of the season while being the second highest paid player on the team. The criticism was warranted, but he's more than earning that paycheck so far these playoffs.

No 2014 without him.

But just conveniently forget about that.

[unleashbaynes]

Sorry Tony :cry

[SAGirl]

You know who you are.

And I'm always right. I said for the Spurs to have any kind of shot, they would need a 3rd player who is a CONSISTENT threat to score an efficient 20 points, and the only player still capable of that was Tony Parker. Guess what happens if Tony was injured in this series or parked on the bench (like some idiots wanted)?

And if Tony "Enriques" the next series, the Spurs are fucked. Simple as that. House, Manu, Green can't do what he does. Tony is the 3rd option. That's all there is to it.
He was the 2nd here in reality bc Spurs didn't get good shots out of too much LMA.
In fairness to Pop, I think he tried to get everyone going, at least all of his stars/veterans. He posted LMA in favorite spots and same with Pau, they just didn't have it and I think the way the series developed, Pop told Tony to keep aggressive. Game 3 which Tony was absent was the worst for the Spurs.

I guess he's pulling us all back in (save the trolls, helmets as you call them, I guess).

Hopefully for next series Lamarcus, Pau and others are better. I think it will be demanding, the pace quicker and Beverly is a bulldog.

[Spurminator]

Y'all got to watch a top 20 PG of all time who stayed on your team for his entire career and helped them win 4 championships and you spent that entire time bitching about him. What a waste of energy.

[DAF86]

This is true. It's unfair to expect him to keep this up. I'm hoping he and Paddy can combine for 15-20 PPG the rest of the way, I think that would be much more realistic.

20 ppg combined is the absolute least we can hope from the Tony-Patty duo if we wanna have a chance in hell, imho.

[DarrinS]

No 2014 without him.

But just conveniently forget about that.


Meh, I guess against the Mavs.

[Robz4000]

No 2014 without him.

But just conveniently forget about that.

:lmao

[Dex]

Y'all got to watch a top 20 PG of all time who stayed on your team for his entire career and helped them win 4 championships and you spent that entire time bitching about him. What a waste of energy.

+1

[BatManu20]

Our hero.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9qo9BfUIAEstnl?format=jpg&name=large

[Robz4000]

Meh, I guess against the Mavs.

He was awful the first six games of that series. Thankfully he came through in Game 7 but if he plays an average series the Spurs win in 5. He was pretty good in the Portland series and Games 1, 2, and 5 against OKC though.

[SASdynasty!]

I called him 2nd option in a 5+ page thread. You wanted him to be a bench guy. Don't act high now.
Hahaha I think you might be getting me confused with someone else.

[PopTheGOAT]

This is true. It's unfair to expect him to keep this up. I'm hoping he and Paddy can combine for 15-20 PPG the rest of the way, I think that would be much more realistic.
I entered the playoffs with the mindset that we would be eliminated by GS in the WCF. If he can somehow continue to average 16ppg and Aldridge can at least play how he was in the regular season, I might change my tune. I'd give us a fighting chance in that case.

I will always watch and hope for the best, but I'd prefer my hope to be justified

[Cry Havoc]

Y'all got to watch a top 20 PG of all time who stayed on your team for his entire career and helped them win 4 championships and you spent that entire time bitching about him. What a waste of energy.

Fucking truth.

[RodNIc91]

Great, unexpected series by HOTS. Dude deserves to bang every teammate's significant other tonight, no doubt about it.

Let's not get carried away though. You aren't always right. You've been dead wrong about Kawhi for example.

:rollin:rollin

[Nathan89]

It's one thing to talk shit about shitty Parker. It's another to not recognize that he's the only guard capable of bringing what the Spurs need. The helmet crew doesn't recognize that.

[UZER]

I'm not a Parker hater. But he sucked so bad for much of the year that the criticism was warranted, though not really his fault, just old and worn.

He has stepped into a time machine this series. Props to his for his play. Much needed help for Kawhi.

[DarrinS]

Lol, the Parker krew coming at me. I'll take it. :lol

[TheRemix]

Waiting for his rating in 2k to go up from 77..

[FkLA]

You misinterpret "antiquated" as ineffective. I never said Kawhi's offense style isn't effective. I said it won't be able to keep pace with players/offenses that are 3 pointer/drive centric.

At one point, Kawhi was shooting 100% from the midrange, and might be at about 80% for the series. That's simply unsustainable. All little Wardell has to do to be more efficient than Kawhi shooting something like 60% from the midrange (which would be historic) is shoot 34% from 3.

I don't think you appreciate the hurdle that is.

But if Kawhi manages it, it'll be one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of the series outcome. I wouldn't bet on it, though, especially considering the fact the Warriors will be allowed to get away with murder on defense. He won't get to the line over 10 times in too many matchups against them.

Your math is wrong. Wardell would have to shoot 40%, which he's capable of doing but it's tougher than 34%. I also don't get why you always act like Kawhi only shoots midrange and the other guys only shoot 3s during these comparisons. Kawhi is a well-rounded offensive player. You didn't want to you use his PPS against '16 MEM bc of their injuries (understandable) but pretty sure he eclipsed it this year and was higher than anything Wardell ever put up when the Warriors faced them.

[FkLA]

Our hero.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9qo9BfUIAEstnl?format=jpg&name=large

:lol

[tenbeersbold]

Tony's French and English is his second language that's what most of it is regarding fan hate.
Spend some time in the EU and you get used
to guys like him,IE,dudes who aren't over friendly/communicative and aren't really comfortable conversing in English.
Besides all Western Europeans think Americans talk too much and are overly emotional, just a cultural difference
Sports fans afire overly emotional chatter boxes, like Many,they crave that connection. TP is never gonna give you that

[SAGirl]

Only thing the team can do is hope their guys are enough. Would be nice for Manu to come back too. I disagree that Parker needs to be this guy every series. More consistent D and move even scoring for guys like Green, Manu, Lee and Pau would make a huge difference.
He needed to be this guy this series. Pau Ofer and atrocious frankly tonight and he was inefficient in other games if I remember correctly, he's been off lately...
Manu 0fer on 4 games this series.. minutes cut in 2 of them and only 4 points in a 3 he was fouled in this one. <--fluky.
Danny is streaky. He had some games he wasn't impactful after starting the series with a bang.
Lee .. ehh.. In a championship team I suspect he's not playing this many minutes. Can't fault him when Pau is being horrible out there and even with his flaws has looked better than Pau. DAvis finally got playing time and hopefully Dedmon starts to come out of the doghouse.

I have my issues with Pop ... but this is what he does. He will go to his veterans. Hopefully for next round, Pau steps up more, and others as you said. But for this series I think he did what needed to be done.

[DarrinS]

Let's revisit this thread in subsequent playoffs rounds. :lol

[SAGirl]

Let's revisit this thread in subsequent playoffs rounds. :lol
Spurs wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round if he didn't play like this.
No matter what happens next, he was great this series.

[pgardn]

He was awful the first six games of that series. Thankfully he came through in Game 7 but if he plays an average series the Spurs win in 5. He was pretty good in the Portland series and Games 1, 2, and 5 against OKC though.

We don't win a championship in 2014 without him bud.
Its that simple. We needed a bunch of good performances by more than Parker. Don't be a fool.
Team.

[SASdynasty!]

He was awful the first six games of that series. Thankfully he came through in Game 7 but if he plays an average series the Spurs win in 5. He was pretty good in the Portland series and Games 1, 2, and 5 against OKC though.
Tony was awful in the first six games of the Mavs series?

Game 1: 21/6 on 56%
Game 2: 12/3 on 50%
Game 3: 19/6 on 50%
Game 4: 10/3 on 36%
Game 5: 23/5 on 39%
Game 6: 22/6 on 44%
Game 7: 32/4 on 58%

Parker was good most of that entire series.

[DarrinS]

Spurs wouldn't have gotten out of the 1st round if he didn't play like this.
No matter what happens next, he was great this series.

I agree.

[gambit1990]

was never worried about beating the grizzlies. had the spurs in 6. had the spurs winning by 12+ in game 5 (they won by 13).

it's great tony made jumpers. not so impressed by his scoring in the paint bc memphis doesn't have shot blockers.

we advance, but don't get carried away.

i'd still rather he come off the bench (not as a punishment, as a scoring punch). spurs get further with a strong kawhi/la two man game.

i see his effectiveness dipping a lot.

[Robz4000]

Tony was awful in the first six games of the Mavs series?

Game 1: 21/6 on 56%
Game 2: 12/3 on 50%
Game 3: 19/6 on 50%
Game 4: 10/3 on 36%
Game 5: 23/5 on 39%
Game 6: 22/6 on 44%
Game 7: 32/4 on 58%

Parker was good most of that entire series.

:lmao those are awful stats, especially when you consider he was the first option. Manu and Splitter saved the Spurs in that series.

[dabom]

So many fucking losers crying in here. Taking notes. :lmao

[spurraider21]

I'll be honest -- I don't like TP, but, at the end of the day, I'm a fan of the team. He played fantastic.freedom fries

[pgardn]

Let's revisit this thread in subsequent playoffs rounds. :lol

We should.

This series still shows we are weak at guard.

Tony
Manu
Danny
Patty

The above is far from stellar.

Then if necessary.
Simmons
Kyle

If we win the West I will be in shock.

But we took the first step against a team very hard to look good against.

[midnightpulp]

Your math is wrong. Wardell would have to shoot 40%, which he's capable of doing but it's tougher than 34%. I also don't get why you always act like Kawhi only shoots midrange and the other guys only shoot 3s during these comparisons. Kawhi is a well-rounded offensive player. You didn't want to you use his PPS against '16 MEM bc of their injuries (understandable) but pretty sure he eclipsed it this year and was higher than anything Wardell ever put up when the Warriors faced them.

Yeah, you're right. For some reason I was comparing 4-12 to 6-10 in my head. Brain lapse.

Still a huge task. The very best mid-range shooters in history typically shoot around 43-47%.

I know Kawhi does more than shoot mid-range. In the "antiquated" thread, I think I said all I would like him to do is shave off 3 attempts from the midrange (I think he averages 10 shots per game from there) and take a couple more 3s and/or drive. I also said he can offset things by getting to the line, which he has. I just don't expect him to get calls against the league's golden child.

Again, this isn't a criticism of Kawhi, but an indictment of the crappy basketball that "works" in the modern game. Can't beat 'em, join 'em. But maybe Kawhi will beat 'em. I just think it's a nigh-impossible task. Memphis isn't Golden State.

[midnightpulp]

was never worried about beating the grizzlies. had the spurs in 6. had the spurs winning by 12+ in game 5 (they won by 13).

it's great tony made jumpers. not so impressed by his scoring in the paint bc memphis doesn't have shot blockers.

we advance, but don't get carried away.

i'd still rather he come off the bench (not as a punishment, as a scoring punch). spurs get further with a strong kawhi/la two man game.

i see his effectiveness dipping a lot.

:lmao

Patty is supposed to be that "scoring punch," retard. And why are you going to fuck with a proven formula? The bench unit as is has insane metrics in all areas. But yeah, let's just throw Parker on the bench because it works in NBA2K :lol

[pgardn]

:lmao those are awful stats, especially when you consider he was the first option. Manu and Splitter saved the Spurs in that series.

1st option.... That's just Fckn stupid. The first option for that team was whatever was working. And there was a lot working for that TEAM.

[SAGirl]

And are often hated by their fans because of it; the Spurs were/are in desperate need of consistent offense from the guard position since Green/Manu/Mills aren't consistent, Murray is young, and Simmons just isn't the answer. Parker's contract has been a hindrance towards getting one while playing as bad as any of the other five guards. Glad he's producing in the playoffs and hope he continues; I said earlier in the year that all this team needed to get to another gear was MVParker, so if he keeps this up he'll more than earn that money.

Now if the rest of the team besides Kawhi could get it together that'd be great...
Frankly... nope.
Tony has brought championships to this team. Look at Manu's legacy contract.
I think it may have been a bad decision to pay 15 mill for Pau GAsol though. That could have been money for a better wing,etc
maybe Pau Gasol makes me eat crow next round and I am fine with that bc that means Spurs advance and the team has more weapons than Tony/Kawhi duo.

[gambit1990]

spurs would've won starting murray.

[Nathan89]

Spurs don't have a chance vs GSW. It doesn't matter what Kawhi does.

[DarrinS]

We should.

This series still shows we are weak at guard.

Tony
Manu
Danny
Patty

The above is far from stellar.

Then if necessary.
Simmons
Kyle

If we win the West I will be in shock.

But we took the first step against a team very hard to look good against.



hard to argue with that. Houston, like GS, has weak interior, but will just kill you with perimeter shots.

[SAGirl]

Do I need to apologize when I specifically called for a Tony Parker 2nd option team in a 5+ page thread?
that you did. that you did indeed.

[midnightpulp]

spurs would've won starting murray.

:lmao

:lol Murray scoring 27 on 11-14 on the road in Memphis.

Sure thing.

Just take the loss and eat your fuckin' crow. You were wrong (you always are, should you be used to being humbled by now, so I don't understand why this is so hard for you).

[Splits]

:lmao

:lol Murray scoring 27 on 11-14 on the road in Memphis.

Sure thing.

Just take the loss and eat your fuckin' crow. You were wrong (you always are, should you be used to being humbled by now, so I don't understand why this is so hard for you).

[gambit1990]

:lmao

Patty is supposed to be that "scoring punch," retard. And why are you going to fuck with a proven formula? The bench unit as is has insane metrics in all areas. But yeah, let's just throw Parker on the bench because it works in NBA2K :lol
patty is a scoring punch. my point was:

spurs get further with a strong kawhi/la two man game.
patty/murray starting doesn't get in the way of that.

[gambit1990]

:lmao

:lol Murray scoring 27 on 11-14 on the road in Memphis.

Sure thing.

Just take the loss and eat your fuckin' crow. You were wrong (you always are, should you be used to being humbled by now, so I don't understand why this is so hard for you).
i meant on the series.

murray's FG% is probably lower. i bet he would have moved the ball better, average more assists, be able to break down the defense bc he's quicker, has a height advantage over conley, etc.

[Dex]

i meant on the series.

murray's FG% is probably lower. i bet he'd have move the ball better, average more assists, be able to break down the defense bc he's quicker, has a height advantage over conley, etc.

I bet you would.

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. Murray would have gotten eaten alive by the Griz.

[FkLA]

Yeah, you're right. For some reason I was comparing 4-12 to 6-10 in my head. Brain lapse.

Still a huge task. The very best mid-range shooters in history typically shoot around 43-47%.

I know Kawhi does more than shoot mid-range. In the "antiquated" thread, I think I said all I would like him to do is shave off 3 attempts from the midrange (I think he averages 10 shots per game from there) and take a couple more 3s and/or drive. I also said he can offset things by getting to the line, which he has. I just don't expect him to get calls against the league's golden child.

Again, this isn't a criticism of Kawhi, but an indictment of the crappy basketball that "works" in the modern game. Can't beat 'em, join 'em. But maybe Kawhi will beat 'em. I just think it's a nigh-impossible task. Memphis isn't Golden State.

It is a tall task and I wouldn't bet on it. I don't agree with the notion that Kawhi's offensive style would have anything to do with them falling short against them though. They'll likely fall short because they're a flawed team and GS is really good and really talented--not because of Kawhi's midrange.

[midnightpulp]

patty is a scoring punch. my point was:

patty/murray starting doesn't get in the way of that.

Memphis has the front line to bother LMA. Kawhi/LMA weren't going to be enough this series, since it was unlikely that LMA would have a big scoring impact. So no, Spurs would not have gotten further by centering everything around Kawhi/LMA while Parker is relegated to being a spot up player/on the bench. Parker was the difference maker this series. You're just going to have to accept it.

Next series, things will be different. Houston has no legit bigs, so the Kawhi/LMA will be the tip of the spear.

[Cry Havoc]

So many fucking losers crying in here. Taking notes. :lmao

As if you need to take notes on being a loser or crying.

[dabom]

As if you need to take notes on being a loser or crying.
I see reddit is down. :lmao

[gambit1990]

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. Murray would have gotten eaten alive by the Griz.

was never worried about beating the grizzlies. had the spurs in 6. had the spurs winning by 12+ in game 5 (they won by 13).

it's great tony made jumpers. not so impressed by his scoring in the paint bc memphis doesn't have shot blockers.
i take murray over tony. you have your opinion, i have mine.

[Mikeanaro]

Porker should apologize for 2015 and 2016, tbh.
On the other hand he´s been very useful, shame on Lamilton the fake secondary weapon.

[Cry Havoc]

I see reddit is down. :lmao

I see that you don't have anything to say about the game since Parker just reminded everyone on Spurstalk how clueless you are about the sport of basketball. :lol Most of your little krew is oddly hiding on a night we make it into the 2nd round. :lol

[midnightpulp]

It is a tall task and I wouldn't bet on it. I don't agree with the notion that Kawhi's offensive style would have anything to do with them falling short against them though. They'll likely fall short because they're a flawed team and GS is really good and really talented--not because of Kawhi's midrange.

Of course. They have 3 MVP level players on one team.

That's why if Kawhi manages to outperform Wardell playing his style of game, I'll celebrate it as one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of whether or not the Spurs advance. That said, all things being equal, I would bet on the player (and his team) who takes more 3s than the player who takes more midrange jumpers.

[Dex]

i take murray over tony. you have your opinion, i have mine.

:rolleyes ok, you cling to your unrealistic opinion so that you can try to talk shit and say "I told you so" if the Spurs don't go all the way.

[dabom]

I see that you don't have anything to say about the game since Parker just reminded everyone on Spurstalk how clueless you are about the sport of basketball. :lol Most of your little krew is oddly hiding on a night we make it into the 2nd round. :lol

Reddit has the most fucking vanilla takes in the world. :lmao

[FkLA]

Of course. They have 3 MVP level players on one team.

That's why if Kawhi manages to outperform Wardell playing his style of game, I'll celebrate it as one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of whether or not the Spurs advance. That said, all things being equal, I would bet on the player (and his team) who takes more 3s than the player who takes more midrange jumpers.

So would I. Unless the midrange guy's name is Kawhi Leonard.

[dabom]

So would I. Unless the midrange guy's name is Kawhi Leonard.
:lol :tu

[SAGirl]

We should.

This series still shows we are weak at guard.

Tony
Manu
Danny
Patty

The above is far from stellar.

Then if necessary.
Simmons
Kyle

If we win the West I will be in shock.

But we took the first step against a team very hard to look good against.
For Simmons and Kyle:
they are a very different topic and I dislike with intensity all the trolling concerning them.
I am indifferent to Simmons, but if you play him Pop: get him rolling. dude should have had at least a couple of cuts to the basket in 8 minutes when he was playing off post players. He hasn't given much. I think he's developed as a ball dominant guard and maybe that is what Pop wants, but he has the tools to be an excellent cutter and off the ball player if he was more active and he wasn't. Some of that has to be on coaching and maybe some has to be given to the lack of court vision and passing skill on Lamarcus. anyways, that is my hot take. If he's not giving more is bc the Spurs don't have him doing more.
Really Kyle played well. You look at his stats and he was both efficient and a positively impactful player for the most part. I am unsure what happens next round and if he doesn't play rest of the way so be it, but he could produce more just isn't given a chance at this point. Pop will live and die with guys putting up 0fers in consecutive games etc... so it is what it is with Pop. I won't say more bc the trolling here is exhausting tbh but if Pop doesn't maximize his roster not much that can be done by these guys if they don't get shot attempts.

[$pursDynasty]

spurs would've won starting murray.
there you are I thought you were mia tonight, how but that head of the snake? That cape was looking good flapping in the air

[dabom]

For Simmons and Kyle:
they are a very different topic and I dislike with intensity all the trolling concerning them.
I am indifferent to Simmons, but if you play him Pop: get him rolling. dude should have had at least a couple of cuts to the basket in 8 minutes when he was playing off post players. He hasn't given much. I think he's developed as a ball dominant guard and maybe that is what Pop wants, but he has the tools to be an excellent cutter and off the ball player if he was more active and he wasn't. Some of that has to be on coaching and maybe some has to be given to the lack of court vision and passing skill on Lamarcus. anyways, that is my hot take. If he's not giving more is bc the Spurs don't have him doing more.
Really Kyle played well. You look at his stats and he was both efficient and a positively impactful player for the most part. I am unsure what happens next round and if he doesn't play rest of the way so be it, but he could produce more just isn't given a chance at this point. Pop will live and die with guys putting up 0fers in consecutive games etc... so it is what it is with Pop. I won't say more bc the trolling here is exhausting tbh but if Pop doesn't maximize his roster not much that can be done by these guys if they don't get shot attempts.

Fathead has been shit. You need to stop trolling with this "positively impactful" shit. :lol

[RD2191]

"Always right"

:lmao:lmao

[gambit1990]

Kawhi/LMA weren't going to be enough this series, since it was unlikely that LMA would have a big scoring impact. So no, Spurs would not have gotten further by centering everything around Kawhi/LMA while Parker is relegated to being a spot up player/on the bench. Parker was the difference maker this series.
you're imagining the SL with 4 players. spurs get it done with patty or murray starting.

parker was the difference maker, murray could've been that too.

:rolleyes ok, you cling to your unrealistic opinion so that you can try to talk shit and say "I told you so" if the Spurs don't go all the way.
i'm already on the record as saying i doubt the spurs win it all with tp playing 25 mpg. would love to be wrong, don't think i will be.

was never worried about losing to the grizzlies, had the spurs in 6.

[RD2191]

Reddit has the most fucking vanilla takes in the world. :lmao

Bay Area faggots TBH. Remember when havocs gf had to come on here to defend him?:lmao

[dabom]

Bay Area faggots TBH. Remember when havocs gf had to come on here to defend him?:lmao

I remember :lmao

[midnightpulp]

you're imagining the SL with 4 players. spurs get it done with patty or murray starting.

parker was the difference maker, murray could've been that too.

i'm already on the record as saying i doubt the spurs win it all with tp playing 25 mpg. would love to be wrong, don't think i will be.

was never worried about losing to the grizzlies, had the spurs in 6.


:lmao

Murray is a talent, but he's not ready. He would've been deer in the headlights this series.

Starting Patty kills the bench.

So no. Wrong again.

[jbspurs]

I am guilty!

[PopTheGOAT]

:lmao

Murray is a talent, but he's not ready. He would've been deer in the headlights this series.

Starting Patty kills the bench.

So no. Wrong again.
Spot on, tbh. Wish the Murray part wasn't true, but it clearly is.

[DarrinS]

Tony fans are seriously emo tho. "You're lucky he even performs for you bastards!" :cry

[gambit1990]

Murray is a talent, but he's not ready. He would've been deer in the headlights this series.
sounds like something pop would say :lol


Starting Patty kills the bench.

So no. Wrong again.
... that's why i said tony could be the scoring punch off the bench.

[midnightpulp]

Spot on, tbh. Wish the Murray part wasn't true, but it clearly is.

I wanted him developed some before going into the playoffs, but that didn't happen.

I'm still okay with using him as a desperation move if Parker/Patty are blowing ass with the Spurs facing an 0-3 deficit or something.

[Cry Havoc]

Bay Area faggots TBH. Remember when havocs gf had to come on here to defend him?:lmao

Remember when you admitted you don't know shit about basketball? :lol

[gambit1990]

pop: these playoffs aren't for georgie/splitter/murray :lol

[gambit1990]

people on this site acting like it's impossible for a rookie to contribute to a starting line up. he wouldn't even need to carry an offensive load with him playing alongside kawhi, la, gasol.

[PopTheGOAT]

I wanted him developed some before going into the playoffs, but that didn't happen.

I'm still okay with using him as a desperation move if Parker/Patty are blowing ass with the Spurs facing an 0-3 deficit or something.
Yeah I wouldn't mind that against GS (if it happens), but I really don't see Pop going that route

[midnightpulp]

sounds like something pop would say :lol


... that's why i said tony could be the scoring punch off the bench.

Where's your evidence showing this will work, and will work better than the current bench dynamic?

When I broke it down, the Spurs lose like 3 net rating points if they were to start Patty over Parker. Patty works obscenely well with the bench players. No idea why you would want to change that.

[gambit1990]

Where's your evidence showing this will work, and will work better than the current bench dynamic?
tony was obviously able to create for himself this series.

he didn't create for others in the SL and could've been as effective as he was off the bench.

[gambit1990]

Remember when havocs gf had to come on here to defend him?:lmao
no way :lol i didn't know havoc was a lesbian.

[midnightpulp]

tony was obviously able to create for himself this series.

he didn't create for others in the SL and could've been as effective as he was off the bench.

That's not evidence.

Tony starting/Patty off the bench is as best as it's going to get for this team.

[RD2191]

no way :lol i didn't know havoc was a lesbian.

:rollin

[gambit1990]

That's not evidence.
do you have evidence tony created for others in the SL and couldn't have been as effective as he was off the bench?

[SpursIndonesia]

:lmao

Murray is a talent, but he's not ready. He would've been deer in the headlights this series.

Starting Patty kills the bench.

So no. Wrong again.

Dijon was quite discombobulated playing against their thrash in the garbage time of game 5, i can't imagine what the Grizz starters will do to him in the playoff atmosphere like now.

[gambit1990]

the round is done. i never worried about it, on to the next one.

[Chris]

I bet you would.

Just learn to admit when you are wrong. Murray would have gotten eaten alive by the Griz.

nice sig :tu

[100%duncan]

Only in ST there is some crying after a series win. God you are all such faggots

[Brazil]

Dat salt tbh...

Village idiot gambit being massively covered by parker shit is quite hilarious... :cry but but murray could start :cry :lmao

[rastaspur]

Sorry tony. You have been a milk carton starter for a few years now. I never thought you would return. I hope the kidnappers didnt anally assault you too much. Glad you returned home.

At least they fed you well. You picked up a few pounds

[Perry Mason]

You misinterpret "antiquated" as ineffective. I never said Kawhi's offense style isn't effective. I said it won't be able to keep pace with players/offenses that are 3 pointer/drive centric.

At one point, Kawhi was shooting 100% from the midrange, and might be at about 80% for the series. That's simply unsustainable. All little Wardell has to do to be more efficient than Kawhi shooting something like 60% from the midrange (which would be historic) is shoot 34% from 3.

I don't think you appreciate the hurdle that is.

But if Kawhi manages it, it'll be one of the greatest feats in NBA history, regardless of the series outcome. I wouldn't bet on it, though, especially considering the fact the Warriors will be allowed to get away with murder on defense. He won't get to the line over 10 times in too many matchups against them.

One way I feel Kawhi can handle it is by his efficiency with the three pointer. Your analysis of his mid-range offense is spot on (even though Kawhi has become almost historically efficient at it).

But one difference between Kawhi and MJ/Kobe is that Kawhi has had adopted the three pointer and shoots with a more modern level of volume and good percentage. That plus his mid range elite efficiency may be enough to offset Wardell.

[r0drig0lac]

MVParker

[Spur|n|Austin]

Great thread OP, tbh

lol @ the season long haters

[spursistan]

Dabom is having a nice meltdown, but that little bitch gambit is MIA. Probably crying into a comic book right now.
:lmao..

[TheDoctor]

857809054986522625

[GSH]

I think people SHOULD apologize to Tony. But not until after he comes here and apologizes for going 0-for-everything in Game 3. And in that last embarrassing loss to GSW in the RS. And in that embarrassing loss to the Knicks.

I'm no Tony-hater, and he played really well for most of the Memphis series. But you can't blame people for going after him. He played in 63 regular season games, and he scored 4 or fewer points 16 times. The starting PG scores 4 or less points 25% of the time... you expect fans to stand up and cheer?

He's playing well in the postseason - except for that one game. I hope he can keep that up.

[$pursDynasty]

GSH what Spur played well in game 3? I say no one did.

[GSH]

GSH what Spur played well in game 3? I say no one did.


Kawhi, LMA, Anderson. I agree that it was a bad game for the team, but damn. Tony's numbers were worse than Manu's, and Manu's were shameful. Look, I'm not a Tony-hater. But you can't get around the fact that in 1/4 of his RS games this season he scored 4 points or less. He gave the haters lots of ammunition. And I don't even feel like looking up how many games he had 2 or fewer assists, but I bet you wouldn't like that number either.

It's enough that he played well in Round 1 - especially the last three games. And I hope he keeps it up. That would change the Spurs' chances more than anything else.

[hater]

:lmao manutards bringing up the regular season

[GSH]

:lmao manutards bringing up the regular season

Well we could talk about last year's playoffs when Tony had 2,2,6,6, and 7 in five of his ten games.

Or how a bout this? In the 13-14 regular season, Tony only had 1 game where he scored less than 10 points. In 14-15, he had 22 games with less than double digit scoring. Last year he had 24, and this year 29.

And the only reason anyone might possibly question his play is if they are a manutard? OMG you people are fucking boring. Your whole world comes down to Manu vs Tony. I don't think there is anybody here who is denying that Manu has played like shit. And even FkLA has been giving Tony credit for playing well in the postseason. What fucking rock have you been under?

If Tony can keep playing at this level, the Spurs might have a shot. If he can't, they're going fishing early.

[$pursDynasty]

Not saying game 3 was a good game for Parker, far from it, but playing good for 5 games out of a 6 game series is more than fine and better than expected. For someone to say Parker had a good series only to be hit with a , "what about game three" response is dealing with a hater. Just like extreme haters will say "what about those three shots he missed in game six?" Parker can never win with that crowd. It's November Parker, or let me see him do it in the playoffs, to let me see him do it in the 2nd round, to let me see him do it against the Dubs, to what about in the finals, to sure we won the title but it was in spite of him remember the playoffs in two thousand whatever.

[Brazil]

I'm no Tony-hater

and yet here you are in a not that serious thread to praise a Spurs legend and veteran having a great serie bitching about numbers of games Parker scored last 4 pts ? So basically you want Parker to apologize for being old and declining and doing what fans were expecting i.e shooting less ? For the rest yes fans should cheer for their PG who spent his entire career playing for the Spurs and being a critical part of franchise 5 titles...

smh on this player haters so called fans... disgusting human beings in general tbh

[Strategic]

Tony's only as good as his last game, and did you see that series saving 4 point play the tortilla salesman made?

[DarrinS]

Every NBA contenders biggest liability (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2700134-every-nba-contenders-biggest-liability)

[cd98]

Every NBA contenders biggest liability (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2700134-every-nba-contenders-biggest-liability)

That is pretty funny, but TBH, Tony played better this series than he did the last two years. He actually got to the rim and finished at a high rate, made the midrange jumper he was dared to take, and even whipped out the floater, which I haven't seen him use in years. He got a lot of rest this year and looks fresh. Hopefully he can keep it up.

Back to the article, I love how this guy couldn't find any weakness in GS (how about their lack of size and smaller bench) and the only weakness for the Cavs are injuries (how about their horrific defense).

[SASdynasty!]

Every NBA contenders biggest liability (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2700134-every-nba-contenders-biggest-liability)
Lol, Bleacherreport gets it wrong again...I love the last part about how Tony will have no ability to positively affect a playoff series.

[spursistan]

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[Clipper Nation]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[vander]

TP needs to retire yesterday

Pop too

All the spurs free agents this and next year can go as well.

[mexicanjunior]

Sorry you suck Tony...

[midnightpulp]

He was like the least of the Spurs problems tonight. But yeah, the Helmets will likely blame him for giving up 80 first half points :lol

[jag]

Sorry you suck Tony...

:lol the amount of retardation it takes to put this on Tony

[dabom]

:lmao

[mexicanjunior]

:lol the amount of retardation it takes to put this on Tony

My bad, he was great... :lol

[midnightpulp]

:lol the amount of retardation it takes to put this on Tony

They're desperate because they pretty much eternally got shut up last series. No Tony=We don't even get the luxury to lose by 40 tonight.

[gambit1990]

My bad, he was great... :lol

[midnightpulp]

Welp/ Probably out for the playoffs now, but went out like a man as the 2nd best player on the floor tonight. Can't ask for anything more.

Thanks, Tony :tu

[HarlemHeat37]

So cruel that he was playing his best basketball since 2014, tbh..

[Robz4000]

Yep, awful time for the injury. If this is it for him at least he went out looking like MVParker.

[midnightpulp]

So cruel that he was playing his best basketball since 2014, tbh..

Yeah. Sucks.

Probably still can beat Houston, but forget about having the proverbial puncher's chance against State now.

[dabom]

Yeah. Sucks.

Probably still can beat Houston, but forget about having the proverbial puncher's chance against State now.

Bro, he's old. What was your reasoning...?

[J_Paco]

So cruel that he was playing his best basketball since 2014, tbh..

Exactly, it seems like after all the struggles, piss poor play, diminishing role and injuries Tony was finally figuring himself out (so to speak). Father time is a cruel, cruel son of a bitch.

[bic50]

Hopefully nothing too serious. Even if he doesn't return for the rest of the series I'd hate for him to have torn an acl

[FkLA]

Praying for HOTS, tbh. :cry

[Cry Havoc]

Welp/ Probably out for the playoffs now, but went out like a man as the 2nd best player on the floor tonight. Can't ask for anything more.

Thanks, Tony :tu

[Robz4000]

Pop said it doesn't look good in his post game presser. Fuck.

[HI-FI]

I was hating on Parker before it became a thing on here, and this has been my favorite season of his. Deferred more often but goes into Hero-mode when necessary.

Truly hope he's alright.

Yep, awful time for the injury. If this is it for him at least he went out looking like MVParker.
This is true, he's been a badass lately.

[daslicer]

Just judging by the tone of Pop's voice this is it for Tony. It wouldn't shock me if this is career ending.

[Budkin]

Just judging by the tone of Pop's voice this is it for Tony. It wouldn't shock me if this is career ending.

Man that's crazy, it looked like nothing.

[bic50]

Man that's crazy, it looked like nothing.
Sometimes those are the worst injuries.

[atoyotagaspedal]

Pop said it doesn't look good in his post game presser. Fuck.

What else could he say, yeh maybe he knows something we don't know yet, but lets just wait till the MRI.

[daslicer]

Man that's crazy, it looked like nothing.

Originally when I saw him down holding his knee I was hoping he had just banged knees with a player because usually those injuries are not severe. When I saw the replay of the injury not being caused by contact that's when I knew it was serious. I have seen plenty of injuries over the years and the ones that are non-contact always tend to be the worst.

[FkLA]

Man if this is it for him I kind of feel like a douche for never fully appreciating HOTS. Yeah, he has some hero in him but he also has a lot of fight in him. Led the league in points in the paint as a PG for like half a decade, then has this throwback postseason before father time really got him for good.

RIP HOTS :cry

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pou_7153.png

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Sad to see. On track to win playoffs MVP.

[gambit1990]

sorry i was right when i said the spurs would be fine without him?

maybe you should make a thread apologizing to patty :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

My nigga midnightpulp , when you're done watching your 8 hour beisbol game you need to hit upstairs up

[TheGreatYacht]

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[spursistan]

It's early, but Parker has so far looked nimble and spry in the 30+ minutes he played over two games..

Still such a joy to watch this master offensive conductor get niggas in their sets..Team's best pure PG, still..

[K...]

I think genuinely excited to play. I wonder if he'll slow down, I hope not. It's great to.see.him though.

[Hoops Czar]

sorry i was right when i said the spurs would be fine without him?

maybe you should make a thread apologizing to patty :lol

:lol where the hell you at nigga?

[Budkin]

HOTS

[TheGreatYacht]

https://giant.gfycat.com/VelvetyIgnorantHound.gif
Folks don't realize what they got till its gone :cry