**Official 2017 Oakland Raiders Thread Sponsored By BEAST MODE**

[spurraider21]

About time to get this one started up.

[Avante]

BEAST MODE....hmmm?

The first stud Raider RB was actually a DB from Praire View named Clem Daneils. My Niners drafted him but...traded him. So he ends up in Oakland and a position switch. He would become the first Raider 1000yd rusher. As we can see, he was a stud.

The first BEAST MODE was his running mate....Hewritt Dixon....a thumper also out of a small black school...Florida A&M (Bob Hayes)

The great Clem Daneils


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S1ZOeSCqEg

Art Powell was out of nearby San Jose State, a great receiver.

Lamonica to Wells....9.4 sprinter out of another small black school Texas Southern.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX6i0a8t0KY

[spurraider21]

Thread already ruined. Fuck, man.

[Avante]

Thread already ruined. Fuck, man.

By talking about the legends that made the Raiders what they are is ruining things, what????????

Dude, OBVIOUSLY we all get the current situation so why not add some depth....ok? You act like you're afraid to learn anything.

Current situation...

What a shit time to be making the move, the Raiders are FINALLY back in the hunt and now this, that sucks.

Remember Raider Bo Roberson:hat

[Avante]

You know how the Raiders have always been known for the speed? Well Bo Roberson was the roots to the tree, he was an Olympic long jumper in 1960 and a 9.5 sprinter while at Cornell.

1960 World Ranking


1960

1................................. Ralph Boston (US)
2.................................. Bo Roberson (US)
3.......Igor Ter-Ovanesyan (Soviet Union)
4.....Manfred Steinbach (West Germany)
5............................Henk Visser (Holland)
6.......................Jorma Valkama (Finland)
7.........................................Greg Bell (US)
8....................................Darrell Horn (US)
9..................Christian Collardot (France)
10....Dmitriy Bondarenko (Soviet Union)

[leemajors]

Cluck^2, 2017 thread

[spurraider21]

Like the direction McKenzie went in the draft, but main criticism is that he didn't prioritize MLB high enough.

Still, went CB, S, DT, OT, LB, S, OT, RB, DT. The need to prioritize defense was obvious, and he didn't overthink it

most excited to see how Obi Melifanwu is used. 6'4, 225 pound safety who played some corner. we've sucked against TE's in recent years, so at the very least he'll be a matchup guy

[UNT Eagles 2016]

^ Obi vs. Gronk in Mexico should be fun to watch.

[Silver&Black]

25 mil a year for Carr???

[Avante]

Pats, Steelers....

and we really can start talking the Raiders here with a couple other teams.

[spurraider21]

25 mil a year for Carr???
yeah, it was expected. luck signed his extension a year ago. you account for the growing cap and that's basically the market right now. given his age, carr is one of the top assets in the league right now

mack will get a monster extension next offseason. how they manage the roster with 2 guys making that much money is going to be something to keep an eye out for.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Overpaying for Derwreck Carr
:lol Oakland Raiduhz of Las Vegas

[spurraider21]

:lol Overpaying for Derwreck Carr
:lol Oakland Raiduhz of Las Vegas
talking smack but so embarrassed of your own team that you removed them from your profile :lmao

[Silver&Black]

talking smack but so embarrassed of your own team that you removed them from your profile :lmao

:wow

Damn Clipper Nation you need to get back in here. You've got some explaining to do, IMO.

[Clipper Nation]

"My team" doesn't exist anymore. Last I checked, there's no longer any such thing as the San Diego Chargers.

:lol Raiduhz
:lol So ashamed of their city, they're moving again
:lol The Los Angeles Oakland Raiduhz of Las Vegas

[spurraider21]

coward

you can run, but you can't hide. they're still YOUR chargers

[The Gemini Method]

Damn Concubine Nation turned cowardice and got rid of his team's logo. But damn Carr just paved the way for Stafford to get $27mil :lol Lions.

[Raven]

unsurprising, he's the best young qb.

[spurraider21]

it's a lot of money, obviously, but this is par for the course for QB contracts. if you're a good frachise QB, you find the most recent megadeal and adjust for inflation. heck, compared to lucks deal, its a smaller percentage of the cap (by annual average)

carr's average (25 mil) is just under 15% of the current cap. lucks was a bit over 15. flacco's big deal back in 2013 was 16%

[spurraider21]

Clipper Nation

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[Robz4000]

Really think the Raiders should've waited another season to give him that money, but I agree he's definitely the best young asset in the league.

[Clipper Nation]

Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500)

878334026695663616
He's better than Struggle Wilson, tbh. No denying that.

[Aztecfan03]

coward

you can run, but you can't hide. they're still YOUR chargers

Those Chargers don't exist anymore. I'm with CN here. I knew it was coming and that's why i gave up on them a couple years ago.

[spurraider21]

Those Chargers don't exist anymore. I'm with CN here. I knew it was coming and that's why i gave up on them a couple years ago.
doesn't surprise me that you're a coward. i actually gave CN the benefit of the doubt in having balls

[Ice009]

Well, I'm getting on the Raiders train. I'm a Marshawn Lynch fan. Still pissed off about the throw at the 1 yard line. I went for Seattle because I liked their defense (I'm a defense first guy), and I also liked Wilson and loved Marshawn, but yeah, Wilson I liked his first two years in the league, but after that it seems like he's turned into a real douchebag. Wilson lost me somewhere between the Superbowl and the NFC Championship game. He was absolutely terrible in that NFC Championship game and pretty much cost them the game if it wasn't for Marshawn's miracle 4th quarter performance that saved the game and got them into the Superbowl. After the game Wilson said something along the lines of God made it like that so they could be tested (I can't remember what he said exactly), but anyway, I thought, what a tool, you almost lost that game with an abysmal performance and Marshawn saved your ass. Then after the Superbowl I was just disgusted with him. Couldn't he have changed the play on the goal line to run the ball instead of passing it? Can't the Quarterback do that?

[benefactor]

Pretty much everyone here outside of Avante knows that Wilson is little more than a game manager that got put in the perfect situation. And there was no way in hell he was changing that play. He couldn't wait to make that throw then stand in front of the cameras and talk about how Lawd Jeezus helped him win another title.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Pretty much everyone here outside of Avante knows that Wilson is little more than a game manager that got put in the perfect situation. And there was no way in hell he was changing that play. He couldn't wait to make that throw then stand in front of the cameras and talk about how Lawd Jeezus helped him win another title.

He still would have won MVP, since that would have been Lynch's only TD.

[Clipper Nation]

Pretty much everyone here outside of Avante knows that Wilson is little more than a game manager that got put in the perfect situation. And there was no way in hell he was changing that play. He couldn't wait to make that throw then stand in front of the cameras and talk about how Lawd Jeezus helped him win another title.

[spurraider21]

extended gabe jackson too

locking up the future. mack will get paid next summer

[UNT Eagles 2016]

extended gabe jackson too

locking up the future. mack will get paid next summer

11m+ / year for the second best guard on the team. Egh. Not a Belichick move

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Mack will get paid by Oakland, but there may be other casualties... Amari Cooper down the road? Also, they're heavily weighted the money on the offensive side of the ball, and I mean heavy.

[spurraider21]

i have no clue what you're saying, but it's probably dumb. stop quoting me.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Read the post and stop being ignorant. :D

Only pussies & assholes use the ignore feature on an internet message board.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Here's what I think about the 2017 Raiders. They start out like gangbusters, like 10-2 or something before collapsing a bit down the stretch. That New England game in Mexico will likely determine first place in the conference.

[Aztecfan03]

doesn't surprise me that you're a coward. i actually gave CN the benefit of the doubt in having balls

They didnt want to be here. That's on them. They gave up on the city so they didn't have my support

[AlexJones]

Derek Carr +2000 MVP is a LOCK

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQGV0u5Gf08

[DeadlyDynasty]

Get Calvin Johnson and I will become a pseudo-Raider fan

[spurraider21]

Charges dropped against Gareon Conley

[Avante]

Lynch in silver & black, perfect~~~~ Now where's The Tooz, Tatum, Alzado, Sistrunk, Big Ben Davidson when ya need them?

[johnsmith]

Thread already ruined. Fuck, man.

That really made me LOL.

As for Beast Mode, he's the least of my concerns regarding the Raiders this season. I'm not looking forward to the two times we play this year and it's been a long time since that's been the case.

[spurraider21]

Bumping the correct thread tbh

[IronMexican]

This defense will be their downfall.

They'll play two great downs, and give up a first down on third and 15.

[spurraider21]

Amerson looks to have regressed for the second straight year. His guaranteed $ is already fully paid off. He'll be an easy cut candidate unless he agrees to a paycut. Conley should be able to replace him.

Sean Smith looked good in week 1 but I'm not sold he's "back." We need to draft corner in the first round again in 2018. Karl Joseph is a monster SS though. It's a shame Obi got hurt, really wanted to see him in action in the secondary. Should be back in week 9 or whenever he's eligible.

Our schedule is fuckin brutal this year. Everything is peaches after crushing the Jets, but this could easily wind up a 9-7 season. Chiefs and Broncos look incredible

[IronMexican]

Denver doesn't scare me. They need to show this for a little while longer.

KC scares me endlessly. They just seem to own the Raiders.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

9-7 season? Lol no... even with a split on KC/DEN they should be 11-5 at worst, but I have 12-4

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Should be able to crush the redskins, beat denver twice or split on them at worst, beat Ravens/Chargers at home, spit on KC, beat AFC East fodder on the road, beat the Pats in Mexico, beat the Giants, and lose 1-2 to the NFC East.

[Avante]

Should be able to crush the redskins, beat denver twice or split on them at worst, beat Ravens/Chargers at home, spit on KC, beat AFC East fodder on the road, beat the Pats in Mexico, beat the Giants, and lose 1-2 to the NFC East.

Dude, talk me into just why the Raiders should beat the Pats in Mexico City, would love to see this.

And....they stand a better chance of going 0-2 that 2-0 vs Denver, and are losing in KC.

Were 1-3 vs KC/Den in 2016.

[spurraider21]

If they stay healthy there's no good reason for the Raiders not to have the best offense in the league. Elite WR duo, pro bowl caliber qb, elite run blocking offensive line, and good rotation of running backs.

The question with them is how good the defense will play. They've looked improved thus far, though the titans and jets aren't great tests. Mack is still a monster, and Karl Joseph suddenly looks like the second best defensive player we have. Reggie Nelson looks better than last year. I think pagano is helping out a ton. The biggest wildcard is if Gareon Conley will actually be a contributor at CB. He was pretty impressive in his debut but it came against the fuckin jets. Washington should be a better test this Sunday night.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Dude, talk me into just why the Raiders should beat the Pats in Mexico City, would love to see this.

And....they stand a better chance of going 0-2 that 2-0 vs Denver, and are losing in KC.

Were 1-3 vs KC/Den in 2016.
1-2. They crushed Denver the first time around. The last one doesn't count because no Carr.

I think Raiders vs Pats in Mexico (hopefully no earthquake, RIP to the people who died there today) will determine 1st place in the AFC this year.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

If they stay healthy there's no good reason for the Raiders not to have the best offense in the league. Elite WR duo, pro bowl caliber qb, elite run blocking offensive line, and good rotation of running backs.

The question with them is how good the defense will play. They've looked improved thus far, though the titans and jets aren't great tests. Mack is still a monster, and Karl Joseph suddenly looks like the second best defensive player we have. Reggie Nelson looks better than last year. I think pagano is helping out a ton. The biggest wildcard is if Gareon Conley will actually be a contributor at CB. He was pretty impressive in his debut but it came against the fuckin jets. Washington should be a better test this Sunday night.

Redskins on the road should be a close one. Skins have one of the better passing offenses in the league with a great vertical thrower in Cousins. But I think it winds up one of those vintage Carr road wins like they had a handful of times early last year (@ NO, @ BAL, @ TB) where he wins it near the end with his arm and smarts.

Also, they're not only one of the best run blocking OLines in the league... they're the #1 best PASS protecting OLine in the NFL, if you go by last year's sack and sack per dropback statistics. So even if you know 100% they're going to pass, you're not going to get much pressure unless you blitz, and if you blitz Carr will find the open man. That's why Carr is currently the 4th best QB in the league IMO.

[spurraider21]

Why does this dude still respond :lol

I can only imagine how many times he's gonna reply after the Raiders Cowboys game even though he knows I won't read them :lol

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Why does this dude still respond :lol

I can only imagine how many times he's gonna reply after the Raiders Cowboys game even though he knows I won't read them :lol
You should give me 1 more chance

[Avante]

You should give me 1 more chance

Don't worry about that immature little jerk, he has problems.

[spurraider21]

this is always refreshing to see

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--rIN6QsTV--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/n78iggscl1oqckvslr8h.gif

[spurraider21]

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[Avante]

Like I said, a couple seasons away but they will be a threat during the Del Rio regime.