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apalisoc_9
04-29-2017, 11:41 PM
Has as many MVPs as Derrick freaking Rose.

:lol


How can a single Time MVP can even be considered top 10? The year he won it, Lebron or Paul should have won the award too.

:lol

midnightpulp
04-30-2017, 12:18 AM
His all-time status will continue to drop as the years go by.

Greatest tough shot taker in NBA history, but his greatest strength was often his undoing, since there was no shot he didn't like. Very overrated defender, too.

I got him around 15-20 all-time, depending on my mood.

daslicer
04-30-2017, 12:40 AM
His all-time status will continue to drop as the years go by.

Greatest tough shot taker in NBA history, but his greatest strength was often his undoing, since there was no shot he didn't like. Very overrated defender, too.

I got him around 15-20 all-time, depending on my mood.

That's where I have to. Not top 10 all time but somewhere in the top 20.

marinoman
04-30-2017, 12:58 AM
One MVP too many imo

JohnnyMax
04-30-2017, 02:38 AM
Spurs fans have an irrational hatred of Kobe because he dominated their team.

Clipper Nation
04-30-2017, 09:20 AM
Kobe isn't even top 1000 all time. 15-20? That's crazy talk.

baseline bum
04-30-2017, 09:38 AM
Has as many MVPs as Derrick freaking Rose.

:lol


How can a single Time MVP can even be considered top 10? The year he won it, Lebron or Paul should have won the award too.

:lol

Just like Gangster Disciple, Snitch got gifted what was rightfully LeBron's MVP trophy.

UZER
04-30-2017, 10:08 AM
His all-time status will continue to drop as the years go by.

Greatest tough shot taker in NBA history, but his greatest strength was often his undoing, since there was no shot he didn't like. Very overrated defender, too.

I got him around 15-20 all-time, depending on my mood.

Id like to think so, but the Lakers, like the Knicks, will always be held in higher regard just because of the town they're in. Hell, people still act like that last Knicks championship was only a few years ago, and talk about it with such reverence even though it was 44 years ago. :lol

IronMexican
04-30-2017, 11:35 AM
Speaking of one time MVP's, it's a travesty Shaq didn't have at least two.

Killakobe81
04-30-2017, 12:40 PM
Mvp talk ... and trollin'
What a bunch of fucking casuals ...
Who cares shit lost meaning in the 90s
Now that Kiwi is a top 5 player...now yall care about a media narrartive?
They should bring back the schick ibm metrics award that Robinson used to win that way nerds and casuals will both have a fucking award to bitch about.
Only one trophy matters and LeBron has the last one of those..and no not even finals mvp matters. Just LOBs

apalisoc_9
04-30-2017, 12:43 PM
Speaking of one time MVP's, it's a travesty Shaq didn't have at least two.

I started warching in 02 but crazy indeed. Should he have won 01?

Killakobe81
04-30-2017, 12:50 PM
I started warching in 02 but crazy indeed. Should he have won 01?

After 2000 Shaq was in pacing himself in regular season mode even taking surgeries to start a season/training camp.
2000 was the last year he was the best player AND PLAYED HARD FOR 82 games and he won it almost unanimously...since its a regular season award and doesnt go to the best player...or Jordan would have more ...Shaq has about what he should get.
Yes a case can be made he deserved one of Nash's but it wasnt a robbery.in fact Lebron and Kobe had better cases unless you prefer the mefia narrative bullshit reasons.

Killakobe81
04-30-2017, 12:53 PM
And LeBron is still the best player he has a case for 5 straight mvps at least... Jordan should have won at least 7 or 8

baseline bum
04-30-2017, 01:00 PM
Speaking of one time MVP's, it's a travesty Shaq didn't have at least two.

Iverson getting the 2001 MVP was such a joke. Almost as bad as Westbrook getting this year's MVP.

Killakobe81
04-30-2017, 01:17 PM
Iverson getting the 2001 MVP was such a joke. Almost as bad as Westbrook getting this year's MVP.

Agree Shaq was clearly better and more dominant...but if he wanted rhe award he would have cane to camp in shape. Iverson didnt truly deserve it but in 2001 outside of practice he gave his all for 82 plus games. ..

DMC
04-30-2017, 05:07 PM
Remember, this awards are voted on by the same people that are being fired by the hundreds because of their shitty takes, narrative creators and pushers. Basically sports marketing disguised as sports news. They saw it coming, which is why they worked so hard to create interesting stories from first round exit ball hogs like Westbrook.

When a news organization becomes part of the entity it's reporting on, you know there's no longer any integrity in the awards or news. Fans know who the real winners are.

ViceCity86
04-30-2017, 05:15 PM
I'll take him over Snaq on Inside the Nba. A much better replacement.

whitemamba
04-30-2017, 05:16 PM
Remember, this awards are voted on by the same people that are being fired by the hundreds because of their shitty takes, narrative creators and pushers. Basically sports marketing disguised as sports news. They saw it coming, which is why they worked so hard to create interesting stories from first round exit ball hogs like Westbrook.

When a news organization becomes part of the entity it's reporting on, you know there's no longer any integrity in the awards or news. Fans know who the real winners are.
You da real MVP

ViceCity86
04-30-2017, 05:17 PM
Chris Paul got robbed in 2008. Kobe got Lifetime achievement award.

DAF86
04-30-2017, 05:21 PM
Mvp talk ... and trollin'
What a bunch of fucking casuals ...
Who cares shit lost meaning in the 90s
Now that Kiwi is a top 5 player...now yall care about a media narrartive?
They should bring back the schick ibm metrics award that Robinson used to win that way nerds and casuals will both have a fucking award to bitch about.
Only one trophy matters and LeBron has the last one of those..and no not even finals mvp matters. Just LOBs

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140
04-30-2017, 05:31 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif
:lol

140
04-30-2017, 05:31 PM
Kobe...faggot

Koolaid_Man
04-30-2017, 09:32 PM
Has as many MVPs as Derrick freaking Rose.

:lol


How can a single Time MVP can even be considered top 10? The year he won it, Lebron or Paul should have won the award too.

:lol

He apparently is still deep throating you with his 14 inch Mamba...nigga got your tonsils all on his sac. Can you say "No Quit No Spit?" :bobo

Pelicans78
05-01-2017, 07:41 AM
Chris Paul got robbed in 2008. Kobe got Lifetime achievement award.

That's the truth.

Clipper Nation
05-01-2017, 08:28 AM
LeBron got robbed in 2008. Kobe got Lifetime achievement award.

-21-
05-01-2017, 02:52 PM
Kobe manipulated a lot of people into thinking he was better than he really was. He was smart like that, taking control of the media narrative and taking advantage of the dumb general population. But you see that those claiming him as the GOAT are absolute morons. Then there are those who put him in the top 5 or so, usually sheep buying into the Kobe hype. Most people put him in the top 10 which is still higher than he deserves, this is a product of his previously mentioned manipulative powers. Informed and intelligent people place him outside the top 10 which is fair. Anyone who puts him outside the top 20-25 are just haters.

Killakobe81
05-01-2017, 05:48 PM
Kobe manipulated a lot of people into thinking he was better than he really was. He was smart like that, taking control of the media narrative and taking advantage of the dumb general population. But you see that those claiming him as the GOAT are absolute morons. Then there are those who put him in the top 5 or so, usually sheep buying into the Kobe hype. Most people put him in the top 10 which is still higher than he deserves, this is a product of his previously mentioned manipulative powers. Informed and intelligent people place him outside the top 10 which is fair. Anyone who puts him outside the top 20-25 are just haters.

Pretty sure he lost a lot of media support after Colorado, feuding with Shaq and openly being an asshole. Not to metion the analytics movement.

-21-
05-01-2017, 06:49 PM
Pretty sure he lost a lot of media support after Colorado, feuding with Shaq abd openly being an asshole. Not to metion the analytics movement.

It didn't take long for things to turn in his favor again (Phil Jackson's return, 81 points, Gasol & Bynum frontcourt, back to back titles) and he played it perfectly. Creating the "Black Mamba", "playing chess while everyone else plays checkers", etc. Everyone just ate it all up.

I do agree that his final years and the analytics movement have hurt his legacy though.

Mitch
05-01-2017, 07:15 PM
Duncan: no repeats, shit colored medal, failed marriage.

Kobe: 3 repeats, two gold, successful marriage.

apalisoc_9
05-01-2017, 07:36 PM
Duncan: no repeats, shit colored medal, failed marriage.

Kobe: 3 repeats, two gold, successful marriage.

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Splits
05-01-2017, 07:51 PM
Duncan: 0 rapes
Kirby: 2 rapes

140
05-01-2017, 08:19 PM
Duncan: 0 pieced
Kobe: 2 pieced

Mitch
05-01-2017, 09:00 PM
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