So what happened tonight....

[Floyd Pacquiao]

They made some bullshit 3s and David Lee?

[tholdren]

wasn't lee. rockets were hot. spurs d was allowing them to shoot 3. Houston moved the ball really well and had to have more assists than San Antonio

[ElNono]

Slow start, 4 point game at the half, then we quit, basically

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Subpar defense and lucky three point shooting. They won't shoot that crazy good again.

[spurtech09]

No doubt the fluke 3's but Spurs defense was really bad....Bad line ups

[Floyd Pacquiao]

David Lee really shouldn't be in the rotation. He's doing nothing. He literally brings nothing to the table. At least dedmon can bring defense and bertans can shoot and drive and kick. Lee can't do anything.

[apalisoc_9]

David Lee really shouldn't be in the rotation. He's doing nothing. He literally brings nothing to the table. At least dedmon can bring defense and bertans can shoot and drive and kick. Lee can't do anything.

Its all politics.

David lee=David West

[jag]

Spurs should cut Aldridge for cap space and then talk Drew Gooden out of retirement. He'd be an upgrade, tbh

[jermaine]

Pussy ass bigs won't go at James Harden on a consistent basis!

[daslicer]

David Lee really shouldn't be in the rotation. He's doing nothing. He literally brings nothing to the table. At least dedmon can bring defense and bertans can shoot and drive and kick. Lee can't do anything.

Agreed the Spurs need Dedmon in the game whenever Gasol and LMA go to the bench. They can't give the Rockets free layups and dunks in the paint. Lee can't provide any rim protection.

[duncan2k5]

Bad defense allowed for rockets to start feeling themselves then hitting everything

[Horse]

Came out like a bunch of pussies and made Houston look way better than they are.

[daslicer]

Pussy ass bigs won't go at James Harden on a consistent basis!

They actually did in this game. LMA and Gasol scored on him pretty much every time he was switched on them.

[Silver&Black]

No HOTS, tbh.

[spurtech09]

eh doesn't matter anyways either of these teams are going to beat the Warriors....Might as well move on to the warriors vs Cavs nba championship

[jermaine]

They actually did in this game. LMA and Gasol scored on him pretty much every time he was switched on them.

Both of them had a small on them every play... Fading away jumpers an bullshit turnovers passepasses. Sad as shit..

[baseline bum]

Spurs should cut Aldridge for cap space and then talk Drew Gooden out of retirement. He'd be an upgrade, tbh

Damn if they could salary dump this pussy and make a run at Hayward this summer. Maybe see if Atlanta will take him since they took a broken down Splitter.

[baseline bum]

They actually did in this game. LMA and Gasol scored on him pretty much every time he was switched on them.

Only in the third quarter

[Floyd Pacquiao]

eh doesn't matter anyways either of these teams are going to beat the Warriors....Might as well move on to the warriors vs Cavs nba championship

This is for bragging rights over retarded rockets fans. I want the spurs to knock them out

[YGWHI]

In the first minutes of the 3rd q Spurs were just -2 but in the next plays Rockets went hot and Spurs couldnt contain their shooters

After Kawhi drew Capela 4th foul, then Rockets let Harden guarding LMA the rest of the quarter...He score 10 points but it wasnt enough when Rockets were running the floor and making 3's.

It's sad because the Spurs wasted an amazing performance from Simms and a really good one from Murray.

[daslicer]

Both of them had a small on them every play... Fading away jumpers an bullshit turnovers passepasses. Sad as shit..

You said they were not posting up Harden in the original posts and I replied that they did. Gasol and LMA scored every time Harden was on them. I can only remember 1 play where they didn't score on him. The only guy who could not take advantage of Harden in the post was David Lee. Spurs lost this game due to the Rockets making all their 3's and lack of rim protection when they drove for layups. There was a key stretch where Pop was stupid enough to go super small and have Lee play the center which resulted in a bunch of Rocket layups and triggered their confidence in their shooting.

[daslicer]

Only in the third quarter

They would have continued to do it if Pop didn't bench them.

[Darius Bieber]

Nothing. Everyone in the world knows that Games 2 and 3 were flukes. Houston just showing how much better they are.

[YGWHI]

Another thing.

That Rockets coach who supposedly wasnt able to make good adjustments according to Spurstalk...Well, he started Eric Gordon in the 3rd. He killed Danny..And the Rockets won the game in that quarter.


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[DarrinS]

Spurs allowed a one trick pony to have their one trick.

Spurs gonna go raw in the paint in game 5. RIP Capela.

[Darius Bieber]

Spurs allowed a one trick pony to have their one trick.

Spurs gonna go raw in the paint in game 5. RIP Capela.

Lmao yeah right. Houston gonna win by 20+

[$pursDynasty]

Lee was crap but what was worse was Pau and LMA passing out of the post when guarded by Gordan, Harden, and Williams.

[spurtech09]

Spurs allowed a one trick pony to have their one trick.

Spurs gonna go raw in the paint in game 5. RIP Capela.
Yes sir...Pop needs to play Dedmon ...

[spurtech09]

Lee was crap but what was worse was Pau and LMA passing out of the post when guarded by Gordan, Harden, and Williams.I know

[baseline bum]

Spurs gonna go raw in the paint in game 5. RIP Capela.

That's a hell of a leap of faith to expect Aldridge to do shit in a must win game. Damn I wish we had Duncan on two bad knees instead.

[YGWHI]

Damn if they could salary dump this pussy and make a run at Hayward this summer. Maybe see if Atlanta will take him since they took a broken down Splitter.

Hayward? Spurs don need other pussy...

However, the Spurs wont make any drastic move until 2018. After next 2017-18 season they will clear the book without Parker LMA contracts.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Outside of Pop being a dumb old stubborn SOB, I can't get over continuing to trot out Lee instead of Dedmon. As soon as we went small in the third, Houston went to the hoop seven straight trips. Didn't even think about the three ball. They knew Lee wasn't going to block shit.

Pop's an idiot.

[DarrinS]

That's a hell of a leap of faith to expect Aldridge to do shit in a must win game. Damn I wish we had Duncan on two bad knees instead.

Hard to argue with you on that point. :lol

[DarrinS]

Outside of Pop being a dumb old stubborn SOB, I can't get over continuing to trot out Lee instead of Dedmon. As soon as we went small in the third, Houston went to the hoop seven straight trips. Didn't even think about the three ball. They knew Lee wasn't going to block shit.

Pop's an idiot.


Yep, but I guess Pop wanted Dedmon to get over himself.


Fuck, I miss 21.

[$pursDynasty]

Outside of Pop being a dumb old stubborn SOB, I can't get over continuing to trot out Lee instead of Dedmon. As soon as we went small in the third, Houston went to the hoop seven straight trips. Didn't even think about the three ball. They knew Lee wasn't going to block shit.

Pop's an idiot.
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[YGWHI]

That's a hell of a leap of faith to expect Aldridge to do shit in a must win game. Damn I wish we had Duncan on two bad knees instead.

Well, that's on Pop too.

Pop was so conservative in the quarter where Spurs got killed. D'Antoni made a move in that quarter, Pop didnt.

We already know that Pop will keep feeding LMA and Pau over Rockets midgets in game 5...When that's exactly what Rockets want. There a big reason why they double Kawhi and let LMA guarding by Harden...Kawhi's offense hurt them...LMA offense not that much.

Rockets looked at the numbers, the Spurs have won games with LMA scoring 15 in the series...But they wont win games with Kawhi low scoring.

Kawhi scored +25 pts in every Spurs win in the playoffs, when he scored less than that, Spurs lost.

[coachmac87]

Dantoni went small in the 3rd. Blew the game from a 2 point lead to 18 point lead in 6mins..

Pop didn't adjust and hopefully saved his hand for Game 5.

[BillMc]

Spurs allowed a one trick pony to have their one trick.

Spurs gonna go raw in the paint in game 5. RIP Capela.

[BillMc]

I don't really understand the fantasy that many have here about savior Dedmon. He's too limited on offense, and even on defense, he fouls and misses rotations.

[cjw]

I don't really understand the fantasy that many have here about savior Dedmon. He's too limited on offense, and even on defense, he fouls and misses rotations.

His fouling is precisely why he's not in the rotation. Against this team, it'll be the death of you (1.6-1.7 PPP). Gasol and Aldridge are less athletic but smarter defenders. Lee though I don't understand.

I do understand the cries for Dedmon though more than the ones for Bertans and Forbes. They've shown me nothing

[Budkin]

eh doesn't matter anyways either of these teams are going to beat the Warriors....Might as well move on to the warriors vs Cavs nba championship

Seriously going to be a sweep full of Draymond flexing and screaming and Curry shimmying every other play.

[gospursgojas]

Rockets went micro ball, Spurs allowed Harden to guard Pau.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Pop blaming transition defense and lack of "edge" from the get go

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[UZER]

Hayward? Spurs don need other pussy...

However, the Spurs wont make any drastic move until 2018. After next 2017-18 season they will clear the book without Parker LMA contracts.

And all that money for more FAs that will refuse to come here, even more so after Aldridge went to shit after getting here. I know Aldridge sucks because he's a pussy, but the perception will still be there.

Aldridge needs to be gone now. I don't care if we trade him for a ball boy. He's too high maintenance and fragile. Cut the dead weight. Can't waste more of Kawhi's prime years.

[skulls138]

And all that money for more FAs that will refuse to come here, even more so after Aldridge went to shit after getting here. I know Aldridge sucks because he's a pussy, but the perception will still be there.

Aldridge needs to be gone now. I don't care if we trade him for a ball boy. He's too high maintenance and fragile. Cut the dead weight. Can't waste more of Kawhi's prime years.Didnt watch game but I can imagine LA doing that. He doesnt like to battle unless pushed to the limit so I can see him thinking after one good game "Ok I got it, everythings going to come easy now". He does it everytime.

[BillMc]

Rockets won game 1, then relaxed in game 2. The "we stole one in their place" mindset.
Spurs won game 2 after the embarrassment of game 1. Spurs won game 3 - extra focus from losing home court and Tony's injury.
Spurs relaxed in game 4.
All were sort of predictable after the Game 1 blowout.

Now, with it best out of 3 things will get really tight. Should be fun... Bet the games get closer. Neither team will lose focus now. (Though there is a small chance if Spurs win Game 5, they mail it in Game 6 to try and win the series at home in 7).

[webshad]

Seemed like Pop wanted an educational game for the rookies. Don't know why.

[jbspurs]

Lee was crap but what was worse was Pau and LMA passing out of the post when guarded by Gordan, Harden, and Williams.

I agree! One of the problem though is they're getting the ball too high on the post requiring them to dribble.They need to be closer to the rim to make it more effective. Aldridge had success when he is close to the rim. It's a disaster if they have to dribble to get closer to get to the rim.

[YGWHI]

Can't waste more of Kawhi's prime years.

Pop seems very willing to waste Kawhi's prime years.

Othewise, he wouldnt get on his team old guys and bigs who cant play against elite and fast guards in the West

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[james evans]

What I saw tonight is houston put their FUCKING GUARDS ON OUR 7 FOOTERS AND DARED THEM TO TRY TO SCORE IN THE PAINT!!!!!!. When Aldridge finally realized Harden is only 6'5 in the 3rd, it was too late by then. Another thing I noticed is that we are letting Harden rest on defense. He's guarding Pau and Pau is standing at the 3 point line. The same thing with Anderson. Once Aldridge and Simmons started attacking him, he started breathing heavy. Why is this hard to comprehend? Other teams attacked our worst defender(Parker) but we give guys like Curry and Harden a break. wtf

[james evans]

And all that money for more FAs that will refuse to come here, even more so after Aldridge went to shit after getting here. I know Aldridge sucks because he's a pussy, but the perception will still be there.

Aldridge needs to be gone now. I don't care if we trade him for a ball boy. He's too high maintenance and fragile. Cut the dead weight. Can't waste more of Kawhi's prime years.
If you were a FA, would you come to SA and have your years wasted by rest and having to put up with Parker and ginobli(who 2 years from now I don't doubt will still be playing)

[duncan2k5]

You said they were not posting up Harden in the original posts and I replied that they did. Gasol and LMA scored every time Harden was on them. I can only remember 1 play where they didn't score on him. The only guy who could not take advantage of Harden in the post was David Lee. Spurs lost this game due to the Rockets making all their 3's and lack of rim protection when they drove for layups. There was a key stretch where Pop was stupid enough to go super small and have Lee play the center which resulted in a bunch of Rocket layups and triggered their confidence in their shooting.

[duncan2k5]

Stop switching kawhi off of harden...Go under the pick and roll...When you switch, he scores everytime....Why am I the only one seeing this?

[ceperez]

David Lee really shouldn't be in the rotation. He's doing nothing. He literally brings nothing to the table. At least dedmon can bring defense and bertans can shoot and drive and kick. Lee can't do anything.

It is very odd that Spurs need length and speed and the two guys who have that are on the bench.

I think pop is deliberately not playing these two.

[ceperez]

What I saw tonight is houston put their FUCKING GUARDS ON OUR 7 FOOTERS AND DARED THEM TO TRY TO SCORE IN THE PAINT!!!!!!. When Aldridge finally realized Harden is only 6'5 in the 3rd, it was too late by then. Another thing I noticed is that we are letting Harden rest on defense. He's guarding Pau and Pau is standing at the 3 point line. The same thing with Anderson. Once Aldridge and Simmons started attacking him, he started breathing heavy. Why is this hard to comprehend? Other teams attacked our worst defender(Parker) but we give guys like Curry and Harden a break. wtf

We pay our bigs $20m and $15m per season and they can't even post up guards? It is a big joke.

[jermaine]

I don't really understand the fantasy that many have here about savior Dedmon. He's too limited on offense, and even on defense, he fouls and misses rotations.

But at least he'll Sprint down court,fight for a rebound, an make it a tad bit harder to lay it up! He gets 6 fouls, fucking use them idc.

[jermaine]

It is very odd that Spurs need length and speed and the two guys who have that are on the bench.

I think pop is deliberately not playing these two.

An the crazy part is people are saying they miss rotations... Hell the muthafuckamuthasuckas that he's playing misses rotations, won't rebound, won't run the floor, won't post up, etc. I can go on an on!!!

[NameLess Scrub]

What happened is that Rockets made the shots they always have anyway.

Spurs can't even use mismatches, except for a couple of plays when LMa or Pau actually decided to go for it vs a guy half a foot shorter than them that's widely regarded as bad defender.

This is gonna happen 2 more times. Rockets in 6.

[hater]

No HOTS, tbh.

/thread

[hater]

I don't really understand the fantasy that many have here about savior Dedmon. He's too limited on offense, and even on defense, he fouls and misses rotations.

Yup Deadmans limitations are glaring. Foul machine, very creppy offensive game, mediocre hands, not even a better rebounder than Lee

Dont get me wrong lee sucks dick but Deadman is not mich better he coukd actually be a worse big.

[bklynspursfan]

I don't really understand the fantasy that many have here about savior Dedmon. He's too limited on offense, and even on defense, he fouls and misses rotations.

It's what people do here lol. They like to think a simple move changes the outcome of the game, and it's not a reality honestly. Pop played a similar rotation, and they were successful last game. Houston hit some really tough shots, and hit 19 3's, while we only had 7. I don't see how Dedmon changes that, but I guess whatever makes folks feel better after an L

[NameLess Scrub]

What I saw tonight is houston put their FUCKING GUARDS ON OUR 7 FOOTERS AND DARED THEM TO TRY TO SCORE IN THE PAINT!!!!!!. When Aldridge finally realized Harden is only 6'5 in the 3rd, it was too late by then. Another thing I noticed is that we are letting Harden rest on defense. He's guarding Pau and Pau is standing at the 3 point line. The same thing with Anderson. Once Aldridge and Simmons started attacking him, he started breathing heavy. Why is this hard to comprehend? Other teams attacked our worst defender(Parker) but we give guys like Curry and Harden a break. wtf

See? We saw the same thing. This is supposedly a bad defensive team and Harden is supposedly a horrible defender, but he's not paying for it.

[coachmac87]

Rockets won game 1, then relaxed in game 2. The "we stole one in their place" mindset.
Spurs won game 2 after the embarrassment of game 1. Spurs won game 3 - extra focus from losing home court and Tony's injury.
Spurs relaxed in game 4.
All were sort of predictable after the Game 1 blowout.

Now, with it best out of 3 things will get really tight. Should be fun... Bet the games get closer. Neither team will lose focus now. (Though there is a small chance if Spurs win Game 5, they mail it in Game 6 to try and win the series at home in 7).


Great post. I started a thread couple weeks ago called "Playoff Emotion" detailing the ups and downs/swings there are in playoff series. After each loss/win you feel the momentum swing..

Typical Spurs fan on this forum went from "We're getting swept" after Game 1..and then felt so confident after going up 2-1 like some almost expected to close in 5...But since we lost and it's 2-2 the sky is falling again :lol

[Keepin' it real]

It is very odd that Spurs need length and speed and the two guys who have that are on the bench.

I think pop is deliberately not playing these two.

I think it's accidental.

[NameLess Scrub]

Great post. I started a thread couple weeks ago called "Playoff Emotion" detailing the ups and downs/swings there are in playoff series. After each loss/win you feel the momentum swing..

Typical Spurs fan on this forum went from "We're getting swept" after Game 1..and then felt so confident after going up 2-1 like some almost expected to close in 5...But since we lost and it's 2-2 the sky is falling again :lol

I don't get it. It's clear from the beginning it's Rockets in 5 or 6.

Ryan will now go mindless in SA, then they'll close out in HOU where SA's bigs will be afraid to post up Harden again.

[DMC]

Spurs came out soft. Lots of deferring, passing to just get rid of the ball (even running the shot clock out a couple times). It's as if Pop grilled the team on not taking shots too early in the clock.

What really happened: Spurs were making a push in the 2nd when Pop called a quick timeout because Harden got to the rim. After that you could see the Spurs never had any fire. I have a feeling Pop doesn't think the Spurs can play on the same floor as Houston, that he needs to micromanage every possession to ensure his will is done.

LMA looked like he had given up, so did Pau. Neither would take it to the hole or shoot the ball, wide open. That changed a little later but it was too late. Either way, Spurs have home cookin' back but it doesn't matter, win or lose, because the Warriors are on a mission.

[DMC]

Watch how shit-eating-possum happy Pop gets if they lose the series. Great learning opportunity for the team, humbles them a bit, helps them get over themselves. In 4 or 5 years, they'll be ready for the next step.

[r0drig0lac]

Subpar defense and lucky three point shooting. They won't shoot that crazy good again.

Yes, they will (probably)

[r0drig0lac]

An the crazy part is people are saying they miss rotations... Hell the muthafuckamuthasuckas that he's playing misses rotations, won't rebound, won't run the floor, won't post up, etc. I can go on an on!!!

[skulls138]

Pop seems very willing to waste Kawhi's prime years.

Othewise, he wouldnt get on his team old guys and bigs who cant play against elite and fast guards in the West

861421882087788544You cant just magically replace all weaknesses like that (snap). We just got LA who is supposed to be our Pippen, Mchale etc. Manu has a right to see if he has one more year left in him. Its just the way it is, and its not necessarily Pops fault.

[skulls138]

I agree! One of the problem though is they're getting the ball too high on the post requiring them to dribble.They need to be closer to the rim to make it more effective. Aldridge had success when he is close to the rim. It's a disaster if they have to dribble to get closer to get to the rim.That was definitely the secret to LAs success in game three. Hes a terrible ball handler but they made that adjustment in the second half of giving him the ball lower and it was all gravy.

[polandprzem]

What I saw tonight is houston put their FUCKING GUARDS ON OUR 7 FOOTERS AND DARED THEM TO TRY TO SCORE IN THE PAINT!!!!!!. When Aldridge finally realized Harden is only 6'5 in the 3rd, it was too late by then. Another thing I noticed is that we are letting Harden rest on defense. He's guarding Pau and Pau is standing at the 3 point line. The same thing with Anderson. Once Aldridge and Simmons started attacking him, he started breathing heavy. Why is this hard to comprehend? Other teams attacked our worst defender(Parker) but we give guys like Curry and Harden a break. wtf

I was thinking the same. Attack harden - he is not that great of a defender tbh

[Leetonidas]

They got 8 threes in the third and pop quit. Yeah we didnt play well but it was 4 at half and spurs were down like 10 with 8 or 9 mins to go and pop just said fuck it. He took Leonard out with 3 to go in the third and never put him back in. There's your ball game.

[Leetonidas]

Also, harden just got hot. We got destroyed in the 4th after pop quit but it was closer than the score indicated imo. Harden hasn't been hitting those step back threes when the big gets switched onto him and he hit like 3 or 4 of them yesterday, iirc were on consecutive possession in the third and really swung the momentum.

[quentin_compson]

When a team is taking 43 threes and is shooting over 44% on them, it is always going to be tough to beat them. And yet the Spurs where right there with the Rockets at halftime. In the 3rd quarter, however, they let Houston get to play at the quick pace they want to and weren't able to punish them for playing small. That was certainly disappointing from a mental point of view.
But they got the split in Houston. Win Game 5 and see if the Rockets will be this hot from downtown at a similarly crazy volume again.

[jbspurs]

They got 8 threes in the third and pop quit. Yeah we didnt play well but it was 4 at half and spurs were down like 10 with 8 or 9 mins to go and pop just said fuck it. He took Leonard out with 3 to go in the third and never put him back in. There's your ball game.

I really hate it when Pop quits early in the game.

[UZER]

Aldridge still looks list on defense... two years into the system. :lol

[SPURt]

I saw Kawhi looking like he's running out of gas. It started looking like that during game 3.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I really hate it when Pop quits early in the game.

Like Kobe faking injuries after being outplayed, Pop loves to throw in the towel early rather than admit being outcoached.

[jbspurs]

Like Kobe faking injuries after being outplayed, Pop loves to throw in the towel early rather than admit being outcoached.

Or he wants to start another trend that other teams will follow. Kinda like resting players during the season.