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apalisoc_9
05-09-2017, 10:22 AM
Started watching soccer in 98....

I watched highliths of van basten, eusebio etc. No highlights of de stefano but man in those days centre forwards had the physical abilities and skills of a centre back..All these other great 9s had weak dribbles, poor runs etc. Not to mention Ronaldo is the greatest and most unselfish decoy of all time. Phenomenal player.

Seriously, is there a more complete Center Forward than Ronaldo?

lefty
05-09-2017, 10:35 AM
Giroud tbh

dfens
05-09-2017, 10:41 AM
Started watching soccer in 98....

I watched highliths of van basten, eusebio etc. No highlights of de stefano but man in those days centre forwards had the physical abilities and skills of a centre back..All these other great 9s had weak dribbles, poor runs etc. Not to mention Ronaldo is the greatest and most unselfish decoy of all time. Phenomenal player.

Seriously, is there a more complete Center Forward than Ronaldo?

:lmao:lmao:lmao tbh more like 2008 son. Penaldo isn't even the best ronaldo :lol

As a pure center forward romario, van basten, even suarez/eto'o/zlatan/peak crespo/drogba are better players from near past memory alone, it just isn't his game and/or position, no shame in that. Why do you think real play with benzema/morata? His only goat asset as a center forward is his positioning (and only as of late), but that's not enough.

Penaldo is probably the best winger/wide forward of all time all things considered, but his central attacking (forward and midfield) qualities have always been lacking (diversion play, pivot play, individual creation, dribbling in traffic, ability to cover for midfielder runs, deep central attacking runs, positional play, link-up play).

apalisoc_9
05-09-2017, 10:55 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao tbh more like 2008 son. Penaldo isn't even the best ronaldo :lol

As a pure center forward romario, van basten, even suarez/eto'o/zlatan/peak crespo/drogba are better players from near past memory alone, it just isn't his game and/or position, no shame in that. Why do you think real play with benzema/morata? His only goat asset as a center forward is his positioning (and only as of late), but that's not enough.

Penaldo is probably the best winger/wide forward of all time all things considered, but his central attacking (forward and midfield) qualities have always been lacking (diversion play, pivot play, individual creation, dribbling in traffic, ability to cover for midfielder runs, deep central attacking runs, positional play, link-up play).

Son i said "9" so I was refering to the Brazilian Robaldo.

dfens
05-09-2017, 11:03 AM
Son i said "9" so I was refering to the Brazilian Robaldo.

my bad son tbh. good choice tbh. but tbh I'd take Romario if we're strictly talking about pure 9s, nigga was a pure predator in the box.

Canyonero
05-09-2017, 11:15 AM
Lucas Alario or Cavenaghi

apalisoc_9
05-09-2017, 12:30 PM
Lucas Alario or Cavenaghi

River plate sucks.

Getting relegated in modern day soccer.

Embarrasing...Oh I just remebered DAF is a river plate fan.

No wonder he hates Maradona so much.

DAF86
05-09-2017, 01:41 PM
Brazilian Ronaldo is the second best player I have ever had the chance to regularly see play on my lifetime.

Canyonero
05-09-2017, 05:31 PM
River plate sucks.

Getting relegated in modern day soccer.

Embarrasing...Oh I just remebered DAF is a river plate fan.

No wonder he hates Maradona so much.

:cry

lefty
05-09-2017, 07:23 PM
Brazilian Ronaldo is the second best player I have ever had the chance to regularly see play on my lifetime.

Daaaaaamn

DAF86 putting a R9 ahead of Missi :wow

DAF86
05-09-2017, 07:26 PM
Daaaaaamn

DAF86 putting a R9 ahead of Missi :wow

Mmh, no. Guess who is the best player I have ever seen. :lol

lefty
05-09-2017, 07:35 PM
Mmh, no. Guess who is the best player I have ever seen. :lol

:lol

dfens
05-10-2017, 05:16 AM
:cry

son I don't follow the argentine league at all but how did a big time team like river plate get relegated ?

Canyonero
05-10-2017, 08:42 AM
son I don't follow the argentine league at all but how did a big time team like river plate get relegated ?

Years of bad/corrupt presidents + shitty players/coaches + Boca lobby tbh

Amuseddaysleeper
05-10-2017, 09:47 AM
Years of bad/corrupt presidents + shitty players/coaches + Boca lobby tbh

But enough about the Argentina NT

Brazil
05-10-2017, 10:24 AM
In the six yard box you cannot go wrong with Gerd Muller tbh

lefty
05-10-2017, 11:46 AM
Muller and Papin were deadly but Van Basten...

Not a dribbling wizard like R9 obviously but still very complete.
Football IQ off the charts.

Det GOAT volley against Dassaev and USSR :worthy:

Also scored the best head goal ever vs Real Madrid at the Bernabeu

Brazil
05-10-2017, 04:11 PM
:tu Van Basten

Papin was a bull inside the box, a dude like Rudy Voller was also beast out there tbh...

lefty
05-10-2017, 04:42 PM
:tu Van Basten

Papin was a bull inside the box, a dude like Rudy Voller was also beast out there tbh...

Papin was automatic, holy shit

Voller was very crafty, smart positioning.
He and Jurgen had great chemistry

dunkman
05-10-2017, 10:47 PM
It has to be Pelé (he used the #10 but was a striker). He did everything R9 did, had an elite aero game and was good recovering the ball. Not being good with headers is major flaw for a striker, but not every person can jump +1m or control were to put the ball with the head under pressure.

Brazil
05-11-2017, 06:30 AM
Papin was automatic, holy shit

Voller was very crafty, smart positioning.
He and Jurgen had great chemistry

Marseille 93 was salvage tbh

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OCjP6rGW5Qw/TMsfiTJcJcI/AAAAAAAAAmo/Quh4OEYj4l0/s640/Olympique+Marseille+1992-1993.jpg

but quite soft compared to:

http://cintana.free.fr/Images/Effectifs/OM1991Bari.jpg

lefty
05-11-2017, 07:24 AM
That og OM team was cool AF

:lol Monaco
:lol Wenger

Brazil
05-11-2017, 08:42 AM
:lol having on the same team Di Meco, Mozer and Boli

oh boy it was hard for opponents legs

Phenomanul
05-11-2017, 10:02 AM
Hugo Sanchez > Marco Van Basten

but all the European posters will raise hell about it.

lefty
05-11-2017, 10:17 AM
:lol having on the same team Di Meco, Mozer and Boli

oh boy it was hard for opponents legs

Yup

Also
:lol Papin
:lol beats Milan in the CL but loses in the Final
:lol goes to Milan and loses the CL Final against OM

Canyonero
05-11-2017, 11:04 AM
Bernabe Ferreyra sons

dfens
05-11-2017, 11:30 AM
I'm surprised that none of my argie niggas said anything about batistuta. While he didn't have a very long career (injuries) he was as complete as they get at his peak (counter attack play, aerial play, poaching, positional play, set pieces, free kicks, pivot play, accurate and powerful finishing, long range shooting).

Last great argentine forward to bring home some NT hardware too :toast

lefty
05-11-2017, 11:35 AM
I'm surprised that none of my argie niggas said anything about batistuta. While he didn't have a very long career (injuries) he was as complete as they get at his peak (counter attack play, aerial play, poaching, positional play, set pieces, free kicks, pivot play, accurate and powerful finishing, long range shooting).

Last great argentine forward to bring home some NT hardware too :toast

Lok I was just about to mention Batigol

Brazil
05-11-2017, 01:02 PM
Lok I was just about to mention Batigol

same here

he is also up there... great forward

Brazil
05-11-2017, 01:03 PM
Yup

Also
:lol Papin
:lol beats Milan in the CL but loses in the Final
:lol goes to Milan and loses the CL Final against OM

yeah Papin had some bad karma on this one tbh... :lol terrible

Brazil
05-11-2017, 01:05 PM
Hugo Sanchez > Marco Van Basten

but all the European posters will raise hell about it.

Hugo Sanchez fan here

Now his trade to Real Madrid was pretty fucked up tbh... :lol

apalisoc_9
05-11-2017, 01:10 PM
Are we seriously comparing Ronaldo 9 to players with severly limited skillsets if they played today? Jesus..

Sure, fantastic for their respective roles and playstyle.

But it's criminal to think anyone outside of a 6'1 Ronaldo is more conplete.

Some of the name here are stupid..


Its like Tim Duncan is the greatest PF ever...but hey Chris webber was awesome..ill take him too

Spurtacular
06-12-2017, 05:42 PM
OP would love that 9"

MB20
06-13-2017, 11:09 AM
Ronaldo is the GOAT